A good salesperson should cover this with you when you are buying the machine. Problem is, there are lots of terrible, or maybe inept is a better description, salespeople. Having worked in this industry until recently, I will say it is hard to find knowledgeable employees or those who are enthusiastic about the products. So, dealers sometimes struggle to staff with people who can adequately explain how to properly operate these things.
Break in procedures are vastly different today vs 0 years ago due to better metallurgy and improved engine building techniques. Tolerances are much more accurate now so mating surfaces don have as far to go to be consider “mated”. Ring material and honing processes are much improved. The same procedure can be safely used for about anything now. Drive normally with occasional bursts of throttle, then intermittent cool down periods. The bursts of grottoes exert pressure on the rings forcing them into the cross hatch machined onto the cylinder walls which has an effect on ring break in. The cool downs are to avoid excessive heat around the ring lands. Checking fo a properly operating cooling system is the most important thing to do during break in.
Well expressed video. I've owned 3 new cars I kept and sold off with over 360,000 miles each. None of the 3 had ever been to WOT. I broke them in with with the typical manual advice no hard stops and no full throttle starts (GM) For the first 500 miles. I lost a few waterpumps and alternators over the years but never had an internal engine issue or oil consumption. BTW the new C8 Corvette computer is programmed to not allow full throttle starts or operation beyond the programmed rev limiter until the break in period is over. Once the period is over the computer gives you the keys to the Kingdom. Pretty clever.
I love ripping on the SxS.... We have some pretty cold weather in Manitoba currently so chomping at the bit to get out! I always appreciate your reviews, especially SxS ones, and think you cover everything great! In a time like this I could watch you review a SxS everyday! Thanks for the work you and the whole crew at TFL do.... Take care and be safe bud!
Good content. A lot of newbs need to know information. But mostly the TFL encouragement to do what is right is a big factor here. And or reminder to those that forget to do a proper break in. Most think they are being macho to not read manuals and or follow guidelines. ;) What they really are, are fools for not doing so. And as you said, it is nice to be smart about what you own. Instead of someone else telling you things you should already have read up on. Not everything is in the manuals, but what is, should not be over looked.
I wish I'd had the chance to do this on my 2014 Ace. I got it just before the end of the break in period and, unfortunately, judging by the hours and mileage when I got it the previous owner pretty much ran it flat out from day one. It's noticeably down on power and I suspect that harsh break in is why.
I've always been a stickler for breaking my stuff in properly...however i've never met anyone else that did this. All of my friends believe the proper way to break something in is to drive it like you stole it
You really only need to take it easy for a few miles , then don't sustain wide open for 10 or 15 miles. Change the oil and filter after 25 or 30 miles. The main thing is setting the piston rings and flushing out the break in oil. Obviously don't beat the snot out of it but drive it like your going to.
I LOVE reading the manual on brand new vehicles!! I remember as a boy reading the manual for my parents 1996 Mercury Cougar 4.6 V8 (205 HP 285 left, 2000 Mercury Mountaineer (215 hp 288lbft, torquey bastards!) And other cats too, and I remember reading about proper break in and changing oil at first 500 miles. I just changed the oil at 1000 miles (wanted to at 500 but couldn't) and just changed again at 5000. Proper break in (read manual!) and maintenance is the key 🔑 Great video bro!!
Thank you so much for this video. First time Side by Side owner of a brand new Honda Talon 1000R -4 Fox Live Valve. Trying to figure out the best way to Break it in.
My dealership was telling me to keep my Polaris ranger In low gear for the first 25 hours, and I understand keeping it easy on the engine for the break in period. Keeping it in low gear for that long doesn't seem healthy to me though
@@jreed10291974 that’s what I’m going to test, you see old Honda’s all day long running strong but never a Polaris, at about 120 hours now. So far so good and I personally keep the maintenance up to date on all farm equipment 👍🏽 maybe it’ll last me LOL 😆
The best way to break in a side x side is buy a Honda. Driveshaft instead of junk belts. More power to the wheels and far better transmission and everything else.
From the break-in's reviewed it seemed as the Yamaha' suggestions fit more in to what I would be thinking (including my motor vehicles as a whole); that and an early oil/filter change to purge break-in swarf.
The tags you talk about i have a question. I recently bought a chinese (Tao Rhino) atv. Its supposed to be a 200cc (197) on the emissions tag it said everything correctly but it said that the displacement was a 107cc. Could that be a mistake on the tag or did i get got with a smaller engine? Ive looked everywhere and wonder how i can confirm what my engine actually is. Im brand new to this atv world so bare with me please. I see numbers on the bottom of engine but dont get anything when trying to look it up or decode it. Thanks for any help its greatly appreciated
I just picked up my Hisun UTV yesterday. After seeing your vid just now I went to the manual and looked up the break-in. “Do not operate the vehicle at full speed for the first 50 hours.” “Do not start quickly nor apply the breaks suddenly” “In Winter, operate the vehicle after fully warming up the engine” The dealership told me to change the engine oil/filter after the first 20 hours are up
Polaris makes garbage. Can I say the same about other manufacturers... don't know, cause I haven't looked at them. What I do know is that there are far too many aftermarket part manufacturers that formed an entire successful business model off of making better parts than the poorly engineered garbage that Polaris puts out. I have a Ranger and the stupid ayholes couldn't even get the AWD switch correct. It's in AWD when the switch is on Turf mode, and vice versa. I almost bought a John Deere Gator, but the similar priced model had half the HP of the Polaris. I also relied unjustifiably on Polaris's advertising and market presence as a measure of their quality... very bad choice. That's as stupid as thinking Kim Kardashian has some kind of measurable talent simply because she makes a fortune.
I bought a 400ex new in 2001. Let it rip as soon as I got home. Finally needed a top end after 14 years 👍🏼. But I was young and stupid and perhaps lucky. I take it pretty easy the first several hours. I do however subscribe to the short bursts of full throttle. Gotta set them rings so you don’t have a oil burner 50 hours later
Our new Polaris 570 is arriving next week- this info was so valuable-first new vehicle ever on the farm so do not want to screw it up. We have the roof and the polycarb windscreen- having serious misgivings about the latter- despite it being $500NZ rather than $1400 (US $995) for the tuff-glass.
I havent bought mine yet, but this video was very good in explaining what I will need to properly do when i get it. I do have a question for you, not break-in related, but whats your take on sustained speeds with these? Most videos say this particular machine tops out at ~50 mph. Is it bad to go that fast for a couple miles? If so, what would you recommend the top speed should be for sustained speeds? After its broke in of course. Thanks!!
Have the same machine, breaking it in as i can, but clearly it's going to take me a while (apparently two tanks of fuel) to break it in. But I get out only couple five times a year or more depending, so augh.
First of all, being a dealer once,.I learned very quickly that the engineers who designed and made the machine have nowhere near as much 'knowledge' as the customer who is standing there with his coffee cup at an angle and saying,..." I don't need to read that 'garbage' I've been using these machines all my life" The rest of us DO understand what 'break in' is and why it is viral to the longevity of the unit you're buying. Good topic Steve,...keep 'em coming.
Will it be ok if I've gone over the break in miles a little before I do the all of the oil changes? It's my first new ever owned UTV 2020 Kawasaki Teryx 4.
They just build things better...spend more money on materials and finishing. This results in higher quality, that's why they cost more with less gizmos
Bought a Kawasaki Ninja brand new from a dealer. Picked it up in the front of the dealership and 30 seconds after cold start, did a near-redline tire smoking burnout in the parking lot as a part of the break-in procedure. Ran flawlessly for 5 years of ownership. Drive it like you stole it.
I purchased a 2020 ranger 1000 and they recommended me to drive slow with no harsh acceleration for the first 20 hours my whole first tank of gas I rode it hard as hell works just fine
Love the commercial , that came up in the middle of your video, Polaris is the most dangerous ATV out there. Massive recall manufacturer defects, and large class action lawsuits. There's your answer
A good salesperson should cover this with you when you are buying the machine. Problem is, there are lots of terrible, or maybe inept is a better description, salespeople. Having worked in this industry until recently, I will say it is hard to find knowledgeable employees or those who are enthusiastic about the products. So, dealers sometimes struggle to staff with people who can adequately explain how to properly operate these things.
Aaron Fink a good customer will open the owner’s manual.
@@balzarini51 ..A good floor guy will show him the page.
The break-in period is important on all motor vehicles. Some people never read their owner’s manual and they wonder why things break. Good video! 🇨🇦
Break in procedures are vastly different today vs 0 years ago due to better metallurgy and improved engine building techniques. Tolerances are much more accurate now so mating surfaces don have as far to go to be consider “mated”. Ring material and honing processes are much improved. The same procedure can be safely used for about anything now. Drive normally with occasional bursts of throttle, then intermittent cool down periods. The bursts of grottoes exert pressure on the rings forcing them into the cross hatch machined onto the cylinder walls which has an effect on ring break in. The cool downs are to avoid excessive heat around the ring lands. Checking fo a properly operating cooling system is the most important thing to do during break in.
This is a topic that should be covered more in on-road vehicles. Great info! Thank you Stephen for the Canadian point of view
Well expressed video.
I've owned 3 new cars I kept and sold off with over 360,000 miles each. None of the 3 had ever been to WOT.
I broke them in with with the typical manual advice no hard stops and no full throttle starts (GM) For the first 500 miles. I lost a few waterpumps and alternators over the years but never had an internal engine issue or oil consumption. BTW the new C8 Corvette computer is programmed to not allow full throttle starts or operation beyond the programmed rev limiter until the break in period is over. Once the period is over the computer gives you the keys to the Kingdom. Pretty clever.
Why don't the factory just break these machines in and then just sell em good to go.....
I love ripping on the SxS.... We have some pretty cold weather in Manitoba currently so chomping at the bit to get out! I always appreciate your reviews, especially SxS ones, and think you cover everything great! In a time like this I could watch you review a SxS everyday! Thanks for the work you and the whole crew at TFL do.... Take care and be safe bud!
Good content. A lot of newbs need to know information. But mostly the TFL encouragement to do what is right is a big factor here. And or reminder to those that forget to do a proper break in. Most think they are being macho to not read manuals and or follow guidelines. ;) What they really are, are fools for not doing so. And as you said, it is nice to be smart about what you own. Instead of someone else telling you things you should already have read up on. Not everything is in the manuals, but what is, should not be over looked.
Heat cycles and very early oil change 😁
Honda doesn't need extreme brake in periods. More importantly they are the machine of choice by farmers and ranchers. They are just built better.
Mike Miller but they do need extreme valve clearance checks.
@@balzarini51 i got a 04 rincon. Just did valve adjustments and they weren't bad. I'll take Honda over all else.
we have Kawasaki on our ranch. lots of Polaris and every other brand on farms and ranches where I live. Honda does make a good machine though
Mike Miller I’m a farmer and would take the Polaris anyday. The 570 will smoke the pioneer 700 too.
I wish I'd had the chance to do this on my 2014 Ace. I got it just before the end of the break in period and, unfortunately, judging by the hours and mileage when I got it the previous owner pretty much ran it flat out from day one. It's noticeably down on power and I suspect that harsh break in is why.
I've always been a stickler for breaking my stuff in properly...however i've never met anyone else that did this. All of my friends believe the proper way to break something in is to drive it like you stole it
I’m with you there as well as the neighbor kids running it like they stole it boggles my mind
You really only need to take it easy for a few miles , then don't sustain wide open for 10 or 15 miles. Change the oil and filter after 25 or 30 miles. The main thing is setting the piston rings and flushing out the break in oil. Obviously don't beat the snot out of it but drive it like your going to.
I LOVE reading the manual on brand new vehicles!! I remember as a boy reading the manual for my parents 1996 Mercury Cougar 4.6 V8 (205 HP 285 left, 2000 Mercury Mountaineer (215 hp 288lbft, torquey bastards!)
And other cats too, and I remember reading about proper break in and changing oil at first 500 miles.
I just changed the oil at 1000 miles (wanted to at 500 but couldn't) and just changed again at 5000.
Proper break in (read manual!) and maintenance is the key 🔑
Great video bro!!
Thank you so much for this video. First time Side by Side owner of a brand new Honda Talon 1000R -4 Fox Live Valve. Trying to figure out the best way to Break it in.
Just don't drive hard during break in, but you can drive moderate in my opinion.
My dealership was telling me to keep my Polaris ranger In low gear for the first 25 hours, and I understand keeping it easy on the engine for the break in period. Keeping it in low gear for that long doesn't seem healthy to me though
I was told the same thing
Ok maybe it's ok then, I mean we are at 30 hours now and no problems yet only time will tell
Low gear is super ugly slow
You didn't go over Arctic Cat. Would like to see a roundup of all the utilities out there.
Thanks Stephen... Great video lots of good info...never really knew much about these machines til now..thank you
Wow. These rangers are built weak… one arm up front with the shock style upper…? It prob works, but isnt confidence inspiring…
Break it in properly and switch to synthetic fluids. Almost 10K miles on my 2018 Yamaha Wolverine X4.
Amsoil
Looks to me like the 570 engine is actually very clean on the emissions scale. Great video!
CFmoto says to stay under 1/2 throttle for first 100 miles and 3/4 for second 100.
Honda engines have the lowest compression ratio hence why the break in procedure isn't as stringent as the other brands.
Turbo TDI Compression has nothing to do with it. The honing process Honda uses minimizes ring break in time.
My 570 full size is just nearly at 25 hours and I love it. More power than the pioneer 700 for sure
I'm Shure it does but that Pioneer will still be going at 25,000 miles that POPO want.
@@jreed10291974 that’s what I’m going to test, you see old Honda’s all day long running strong but never a Polaris, at about 120 hours now. So far so good and I personally keep the maintenance up to date on all farm equipment 👍🏽 maybe it’ll last me LOL 😆
The best way to break in a side x side is buy a Honda. Driveshaft instead of junk belts. More power to the wheels and far better transmission and everything else.
From the break-in's reviewed it seemed as the Yamaha' suggestions fit more in to what I would be thinking (including my motor vehicles as a whole); that and an early oil/filter change to purge break-in swarf.
Kawa also has a 3 year warranty.
Break in is important but not anymore than regular maintenance and inspections.
Don’t buy Polaris and you’ll have way less headaches
20 hour breakin lol! In 2016 I took a Yamaha YXZ 1000R from showroom to race track with 0 hours and 0.2 miles lol!
Question
Do I have to give break time each time i change a belt
The tags you talk about i have a question. I recently bought a chinese (Tao Rhino) atv. Its supposed to be a 200cc (197) on the emissions tag it said everything correctly but it said that the displacement was a 107cc. Could that be a mistake on the tag or did i get got with a smaller engine? Ive looked everywhere and wonder how i can confirm what my engine actually is. Im brand new to this atv world so bare with me please. I see numbers on the bottom of engine but dont get anything when trying to look it up or decode it. Thanks for any help its greatly appreciated
So this doesn't pertain to a atv?
Thanks for the visual support great stuff
I break mine in like I drive them.
I just picked up my Hisun UTV yesterday. After seeing your vid just now I went to the manual and looked up the break-in.
“Do not operate the vehicle at full speed for the first 50 hours.”
“Do not start quickly nor apply the breaks suddenly”
“In Winter, operate the vehicle after fully warming up the engine”
The dealership told me to change the engine oil/filter after the first 20 hours are up
Buy American
Polaris makes garbage. Can I say the same about other manufacturers... don't know, cause I haven't looked at them. What I do know is that there are far too many aftermarket part manufacturers that formed an entire successful business model off of making better parts than the poorly engineered garbage that Polaris puts out. I have a Ranger and the stupid ayholes couldn't even get the AWD switch correct. It's in AWD when the switch is on Turf mode, and vice versa.
I almost bought a John Deere Gator, but the similar priced model had half the HP of the Polaris. I also relied unjustifiably on Polaris's advertising and market presence as a measure of their quality... very bad choice. That's as stupid as thinking Kim Kardashian has some kind of measurable talent simply because she makes a fortune.
I bought a 400ex new in 2001. Let it rip as soon as I got home. Finally needed a top end after 14 years 👍🏼. But I was young and stupid and perhaps lucky. I take it pretty easy the first several hours. I do however subscribe to the short bursts of full throttle. Gotta set them rings so you don’t have a oil burner 50 hours later
Thanks Canadian buddy
Our new Polaris 570 is arriving next week- this info was so valuable-first new vehicle ever on the farm so do not want to screw it up. We have the roof and the polycarb windscreen- having serious misgivings about the latter- despite it being $500NZ rather than $1400 (US $995) for the tuff-glass.
I havent bought mine yet, but this video was very good in explaining what I will need to properly do when i get it. I do have a question for you, not break-in related, but whats your take on sustained speeds with these? Most videos say this particular machine tops out at ~50 mph. Is it bad to go that fast for a couple miles? If so, what would you recommend the top speed should be for sustained speeds? After its broke in of course. Thanks!!
Have the same machine, breaking it in as i can, but clearly it's going to take me a while (apparently two tanks of fuel) to break it in. But I get out only couple five times a year or more depending, so augh.
Cf moto is a brand
first question do you have lada niva in USA ? second question, would you test it if you have it ( i know they have them in canada ) ? :)
My dealer had the break-in details all wrong, said it was only 5 hours. I tried to correct them and they would not listen.
How affordable it is lol its polaris over priced junk
Huge importance on any vehicle is that first oil change, get it out incase and metal came loose in break in.
They say not to do a hard break in to avoid a law suit when old joe crashes his new yfz1000 into a tree
kawaski offer 3 year warranty im buying one just on that
Break in is just as much if not more about breaking in a new driver than the machine.
Good info.
First of all, being a dealer once,.I learned very quickly that the engineers who designed and made the machine have nowhere near as much 'knowledge' as the customer who is standing there with
his coffee cup at an angle and saying,..." I don't need to read that 'garbage' I've been using these machines all my life"
The rest of us DO understand what 'break in' is and why it is viral to the longevity of the unit you're buying.
Good topic Steve,...keep 'em coming.
break in lol
For the honda pioneer 1000 breakin is 100 miles or 10 hrs and do not hold the same speed for to long.
I believe in it because I have 10000k on my 2012 Outlander 800
lol... Remember you want it to break IN not DOWN.......
Please review a kubota RTV diesel
Honda knows their engines don't care 😂
ya dont break in the brakes ya break in the engine and belt
Will it be ok if I've gone over the break in miles a little before I do the all of the oil changes? It's my first new ever owned UTV 2020 Kawasaki Teryx 4.
Yes, no worries . . .
WHEN ARE YOU MOVING TO HOLLYWOOD
My dealer broke mine in for me.
Colin David #44 So it had miles on the odometer?
Yes but they changed the oil and everything for me
There were only very little though
ধন্যবাদ ...
thanks
luke combs
Thanks!
I broke In my x3 with an aftermarket assassins stage 2 reflash Tune and just sent her hard. It’s got nearly 1000 miles and no issues.
Yes, biggest thing is the first oil change. People think they will blow up from not following the manual. If it does it was going to regardless.
Honda= drive like ya stole it!! yeah boi,what i did to mine.
Dont break it in just go out and rip it up
Perhaps Honda does a pre break in period on their engines so that the owner doesn't have to perform the whole break in ?
mixwell1983 no, still 20 hours
They just build things better...spend more money on materials and finishing. This results in higher quality, that's why they cost more with less gizmos
Bought a Kawasaki Ninja brand new from a dealer. Picked it up in the front of the dealership and 30 seconds after cold start, did a near-redline tire smoking burnout in the parking lot as a part of the break-in procedure. Ran flawlessly for 5 years of ownership. Drive it like you stole it.
I purchased a 2020 ranger 1000 and they recommended me to drive slow with no harsh acceleration for the first 20 hours my whole first tank of gas I rode it hard as hell works just fine
Love the commercial , that came up in the middle of your video, Polaris is the most dangerous ATV out there. Massive recall manufacturer defects, and large class action lawsuits. There's your answer