I’m going to try the Klein. I own Hazet 760-2 water pump pliers that have a similar quick adjust button. I really like how much easier it is to adjust the setting compared to others. I had hoped for this feature in a pliers wrench. At first I rejected the Klein pliers because of the slop, compared to Knipex plier wrenches. I’ll put them in my tool bag and see how I like them. If they are decent, I might put them in all of my vehicle tool bags to save space. One tool with dual uses. By the way, my favorite water pump pliers are the Knipex Cobra self adjusting pliers. I only wish they made it in a smaller size. Thanks 4TheWin for taking your valuable time and treasure to make your videos!
@@georged1085 I like them. The only criticism was the single size and now I just found Hazet has come out with 3 new water pump pliers with the same adjustment button. These are now on my radar for deals.
@@geoffap0 have you used them with the jaw reversed? All reviews I've seen that tested this seemed to suggest it was a gimmick and had nowhere near the grip of real waterpump / T&G pliers like the Knipex Cobra / Channellock etc
@@scod3908 I haven't bought them yet, so I have no experience with them. I have plenty of water pump pliers in my tool boxes and bags so I'm not pressed to buy them. Thanks for the info.
Thanks so much for the review. I've been remodeling for 5.5 decades but never new about Knipex until today looking at new tool bags and seeing multiple tradesmen pulling them out. Wow! Gotta have a set like them. The flex in the handle doesn't seem to bother me too much but the side to side play might be a concern. Hate cheep channel locks. Would like to hear more about the Kleins from users. Could I toss my channel locks altogether? Don't want to add more weight to my bag.
i like the features and usability of this klein tool. but in the uk here it costs more than the knipex. or i can buy the knipex + the plastic covers for same price. (and i already have the cobras). £50 gbp in uk lands is around $60
1 year can make a difference in the pricing differences. As of Oct. 31, 2024, the Klein is $10 more than the Icon. I do like the concept of a 2 in 1 Plier tool.
Home Depot lost its exclusivity contract with Home Depot, they are also sold at Lowes now. Lowes clearanced a bunch of stuff to make room for the Klein stuff.
There is a large price premium when buying Knipex in the US, much cheaper in Germany. It's worth paying a little extra to support the innovator rather than buying the Icon. That's how you get more innovation. It would be interesting to also compare the Gedore and Stahlwille German made pliers wrenches. They've been around for a while so they probably licenced the Knipex design.
@@Bit2brain "Ripped off" it's a tongue and groove smooth jaw plier. I know knippex fanbois want to buy in on the "pliers wrench" nonsense, but they are essentially just channel-locks with a spring and button. And yes, not letting knippies rest on their laurels to collect on their paypigs for the next decade and have to come up with real ideas is indeed the driver of innovation.
I have a few of the knipex. Great tools, and my preference over other brands. But your process of quality gauging is flawed. Not all my knipex are the same. The same rool vary in play and gap and finish.
YOU MANIPULATED THE RESULTS - SHAME ON YOU KNIPEX SHILL 1) when you're showing the parallel jaws, you ignore the light we can see and even say "There's a little but not nearly as much in the other two" when in fact we can see there's MORE in the place where you put your finger over it. 2) When you're checking the flexibility while gripping, you put the nut at the very end of the Klein, you put it 1/2 way in the Icon and you put the nut all the way up to the hinge of the Knipex. This WILL ABSOLUTELY AFFECT THE PLAY WHEN SQUEEZING IT. When you move something to the outside of the jaws, you're introducing a level effect that will provide the most flex in the handle while squeezing. Conversely when you move it right up to the hinge, you take all that away.
@@DamionJR4923- You are the absolute lamest kind of human. You simply accept anything anyone tells you without question and hate to see people bringing actual truth to a situation. You'd rather believe a LIE and you prefer DECEPTION to TRUTH. You are a person who is easily and often manipulated tho you will argue strongly that you're not. BUT YOU ARE because you abhor truth. Just shut up and let the adults talk about what's really going on. k thx bye
To be honest, I was thinking the same thing @jontnoneya3404. Kinda feels like he's selling Knipex tools for a living haha. I really do appreciate the review but it doesn't seem like the Klein is getting fair treatment. Just because he said what he said doesn't mean he's overreacting or a troll guys. He's right on both occasions. There's more light on the Knipex when the jaws are closed then both of them and the Knipex did have less flex because he put the nut all the way in the back off the jaws. It's just comes off odd because he's pushing for Knipex more
Please include the wiha. Great review.
I’m going to try the Klein. I own Hazet 760-2 water pump pliers that have a similar quick adjust button. I really like how much easier it is to adjust the setting compared to others. I had hoped for this feature in a pliers wrench. At first I rejected the Klein pliers because of the slop, compared to Knipex plier wrenches. I’ll put them in my tool bag and see how I like them. If they are decent, I might put them in all of my vehicle tool bags to save space. One tool with dual uses. By the way, my favorite water pump pliers are the Knipex Cobra self adjusting pliers. I only wish they made it in a smaller size. Thanks 4TheWin for taking your valuable time and treasure to make your videos!
How you like them?
@@georged1085 I like them. The only criticism was the single size and now I just found Hazet has come out with 3 new water pump pliers with the same adjustment button. These are now on my radar for deals.
@@geoffap0 have you used them with the jaw reversed?
All reviews I've seen that tested this seemed to suggest it was a gimmick and had nowhere near the grip of real waterpump / T&G pliers like the Knipex Cobra / Channellock etc
@@scod3908 I haven't bought them yet, so I have no experience with them. I have plenty of water pump pliers in my tool boxes and bags so I'm not pressed to buy them. Thanks for the info.
Good review buddy. I own the Klein and Knipex versions. Haven't used the Klein version yet I just thought it was cool.
I’ll have to try out one of those kleins
Thanks so much for the review. I've been remodeling for 5.5 decades but never new about Knipex until today looking at new tool bags and seeing multiple tradesmen pulling them out. Wow! Gotta have a set like them. The flex in the handle doesn't seem to bother me too much but the side to side play might be a concern. Hate cheep channel locks. Would like to hear more about the Kleins from users. Could I toss my channel locks altogether? Don't want to add more weight to my bag.
i like the features and usability of this klein tool. but in the uk here it costs more than the knipex. or i can buy the knipex + the plastic covers for same price. (and i already have the cobras). £50 gbp in uk lands is around $60
You can use the clien tool as a pipe wrench that's what it's made for
Do you work in the trades?
Not with those forearms
You forget Wiha version 😢
Sorry, I just didn’t have one
THanks bro
Knippex Cobra best in the world
In the universe too?
What about in the galaxy?
They're good, but not the same as the pliers wrench
How long is each in mm exactly? Thanks
1 inch = 2.54 cm = 25.4 mm. So 10 inches = 254 mm. I think they are 250 mm and 10 inches is just an approximation. Cheers. :)
1 year can make a difference in the pricing differences. As of Oct. 31, 2024, the Klein is $10 more than the Icon. I do like the concept of a 2 in 1 Plier tool.
Home Depot lost its exclusivity contract with Home Depot, they are also sold at Lowes now. Lowes clearanced a bunch of stuff to make room for the Klein stuff.
Yup Lowes is supposed to have a much larger Klein presence soon vs the tiny single bay Home Depot typically gave them in a dark back corner.
Lowes also no longer carries knippex because of their Klein contract. Which sucks. There's nowhere locally to buy knippex.
looks the same ,but Knipex german steel is much better
There is a large price premium when buying Knipex in the US, much cheaper in Germany.
It's worth paying a little extra to support the innovator rather than buying the Icon. That's how you get more innovation.
It would be interesting to also compare the Gedore and Stahlwille German made pliers wrenches. They've been around for a while so they probably licenced the Knipex design.
No, competition fuels innovation. This is better for Knipex and the consumer
@@christianmckay5232Yeah, it’s better for Knipex to get ripped off and told it’s better for them. You know, competition and all.🙄
@@Bit2brain "Ripped off" it's a tongue and groove smooth jaw plier. I know knippex fanbois want to buy in on the "pliers wrench" nonsense, but they are essentially just channel-locks with a spring and button. And yes, not letting knippies rest on their laurels to collect on their paypigs for the next decade and have to come up with real ideas is indeed the driver of innovation.
Never used any of the tools...
I have a few of the knipex. Great tools, and my preference over other brands. But your process of quality gauging is flawed. Not all my knipex are the same. The same rool vary in play and gap and finish.
In real world the Cleintools conduit grip is useless
Magic wrench way better for this situation
Ha
Do the Editor know what he is talking?
Nope.
YOU MANIPULATED THE RESULTS - SHAME ON YOU
KNIPEX SHILL
1) when you're showing the parallel jaws, you ignore the light we can see and even say "There's a little but not nearly as much in the other two" when in fact we can see there's MORE in the place where you put your finger over it.
2) When you're checking the flexibility while gripping, you put the nut at the very end of the Klein, you put it 1/2 way in the Icon and you put the nut all the way up to the hinge of the Knipex. This WILL ABSOLUTELY AFFECT THE PLAY WHEN SQUEEZING IT. When you move something to the outside of the jaws, you're introducing a level effect that will provide the most flex in the handle while squeezing. Conversely when you move it right up to the hinge, you take all that away.
Make your own video don’t be a Keyboard warrior troll
@@DamionJR4923- You are the absolute lamest kind of human. You simply accept anything anyone tells you without question and hate to see people bringing actual truth to a situation. You'd rather believe a LIE and you prefer DECEPTION to TRUTH. You are a person who is easily and often manipulated tho you will argue strongly that you're not. BUT YOU ARE because you abhor truth.
Just shut up and let the adults talk about what's really going on. k thx bye
That is what I call an overreaction
@@guymee Oh so you don't care that the results were manipulated, you don't care that you were deceived. We're not the same.
To be honest, I was thinking the same thing @jontnoneya3404. Kinda feels like he's selling Knipex tools for a living haha. I really do appreciate the review but it doesn't seem like the Klein is getting fair treatment. Just because he said what he said doesn't mean he's overreacting or a troll guys. He's right on both occasions. There's more light on the Knipex when the jaws are closed then both of them and the Knipex did have less flex because he put the nut all the way in the back off the jaws. It's just comes off odd because he's pushing for Knipex more