Testing the $1000 Intel Pentium D EXTREME EDITION 965 in 2019...
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- The Pentium D EE 965 was a $1000 flop in 2006 but Intel's held the performance crown until 2019! How bad is this CPU to use in 2019?
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This is madness, I spent all morning looking for videos of this exact CPU and then you upload this??????
He's got a really weird habit of doing that. I swear he's omniscient.
Seriously! I was just shopping for a used r9 nano and was wondering huh, maybe timmyjoe has a vid up on this card! Lo and behold... ua-cam.com/video/5hv0To2Fv9I/v-deo.html three days ago he did. Magic. You're a wizard Tim.
do you thing about why so long him make that video 20 30 minutes that people lm not recpect that because make so long video to have more money
@@milanwoltgas or bc people with higher attention spans want to watch it
The oldest processor I have overclocked was actually an FPU...a Motorola 68883 rated for 25MHz but all I had was a 33MHz crystal. It was on a CSA Mega MidgetRacer 68030 accelerator board for my Amiga 2000 which set me back around $1500 or so in the late 80's. It all ran fine for years after that, no water cooling needed!
COMPUTER PARRRRTSS!!!
Nice video man, 110 on the Cinabench score was actually more than I was expecting from a 13 year Pentium
@Jay Arre Hey, not too bad for that old apu haha
That issue you were having with the shit input lag happened to me on my Xeon X5660. It happened only at 720p but at 1080p and 4K it is fine. Once I enabled AMD Enhanced Sync at 720p it was perfect.
The running joke at the time was that it was the "Emergency Edition." It was nothing but a rebranded Xeon part. Intel didn't have anything else that was remotely competitive until Conroe shipped.
AMD did the same thing when Intel brought out Sandy Bridge. The Phenom II X6 was just a rebranded Opteron.
The Xeon 5080. I have two in an Intel Server board. It's an Madness of an 4/8 Netburst system. But i'm going with a pair of E5450 (Q9650 equivalent) to make myself an FX Killer.
I had q6600 10 years ago in that time cpu was monster
Good old time bro 😁😁
You should try putting a Pentium D extreme with a core disabled against a Pentium 4 extreme
nah fam not the pentiuim 4 extreme, the 3.8ghz p4 670
Let’s get Timmy Joe to 100k so he can afford a new CPU and also because he deserves it
Hey. 2021 @ 160k
Sweet an I 💘 this stuff keep it up Timmy Joe!
600 more for 100K!!! CONGRATULATIONS TIMMY :DDDDDDDD
I had to lap all of my Pentium D CPU's. They all had a high spot right in the middle.
sundeviltech All Intel Chips still do have a high spot in the middle, they fucking Never learn anything
Timmy deserves at least a 500k sub count at this point. I think he will hit a million one day.
The best part about that chip is, you can upgrade ton a xeon 771 and actually run really well. I had a 2600 Heaven benchmark with my Xeon 771 and a 1060.
Maybe test one of those.
I think you’re jumping the gun on this. We haven’t seen anything to say that AMD’s brand new 7nm process and beat intels ancient 14++++++++++ units.
True, but for the moment I'll still let my inner AMD "Sledgehammer" fan boy party like it's 2003. :-)
beating 14nm+++ isnt just in terms of clocks
zen 2 have much higher ipc (performance per clock)
much lower power consumption (from amd slides, the 65W 3700X is on par with the 9900K)
and they can put 12/16 cores and produce it for much lower costs than what the 14nm process can achieve
and im saying that because if we use the logic of "amd 7nm cant do 5ghz"
then its the same as intel did nothing from 2000 to 7000 series (2600k > 7700k)
both can hit high clocks
no one said anything about clocks
Ryzen 3000 will look good till october when full info icelake is released. unlike TSMC intel doesn't lie about transistor density. also intel wasn't doing nothing these past few years haswell had AVX2 which was a 30% boost over standard AVX. broadwell adds TSX which boosts mult-ithreading performance,and kabylake had AVX 512. that said newer instruction sets are basically limited to the $200+ CPUs currently. not to mention the skylake GT4 GPU core that surpassed vega in performance per watt. though it dosn't help much given that intel only used it in iris pro and went back to GT3 for kabylake/coffelake. it may even surprise people to see intel Gen11 i-GPUs trading blows with Navi APUs. even a UHD 630 can already hold it's own in OpenGL at the very least. if only because the driver team isn't made of idiots.
Decided to try Cinebench 9.5 on my 3.9ghz R7 1700. 6682 Multi-core and 1191 Single-core. It seems to vary about 500 points in multi-core for whatever reason per test. Probably not even optimized for quad cores of the era, let alone 8-core SMT chips.
hahahha, I just checked on my threadripper 2950x. you beat my single threaded score and got aboue the same as my multithreaded score. So it def doesn't work on high core chips hah
@@TimmyJoePCTech Lol yeah. One of these days we're probably going to say the same thing about r15 once 64C chips are commonplace. Man I look forward to those times.
I love the heatsinks on that ddr2 RAM! What Brand is it?
EDIT: It's a kit of OCZ Reaper. They look sick would definitely use those heatsinks if they fit ddr4
I have the same set of 4 x 2gb sticks for
DDR3
@@mnaemark I wish they made these for DDR4. I would pick these up just to use the heatsinks on modern memory
@@rjgames4769 I actually have one of them
4.6 GHz on a Pentium D sounds good.
I got my 925 to 4.8 GHz on 1.45V i believe. It nearly overwhelmed my Hyper 212 with 2 2500 rpm fans
I kept my 925 from my 07 PC my dad bought me all these years. I was an AMD guy but all the AMD pcs were out of budget and I wanted to take him up on the new pc offer while he had the money. I always sort of liked the P4 despite its flaws so the Pentium D was super interesting to me and I thought I’d keep it and maybe oc it one day if I had a board capable. Also having 2x2mb L2 Cache just made it evident to me this was near the top of Netburst luxury.
Shintel lied about the TDP and real power consumption back then in 2006 already....this Pentium D 965 Extreme had a quazi 130 Watt TDP at 2 cores running 3,73 GHz....but in reality it literally ate around 150-160 Watts....I used to own one and I quickly sold it because it was too hot for a 2-core puny chip to be cooled properly back then when all the PC cases had PSU-s above the cpu-s and the heat from it literally could hurt the PSU on a long run :).
500 subs away from 100k, congrats my dude
Hey bro, I get an E5 2650v2 with a cheap and "generic" motherboard, cheap and "generic" 16GB ECC REG 1600, and a GTX 960 2GB, but i'm from Brazil so all the customs clearance will get at least 3 months, plus our shitty postal will takes more a month at least, I will receive that parts in no less than 6 months, do you have these or a similar CPU to test!? If you have can you make some tests!? With and without HT!? Thank you very much bro...
Hmmm, we'll have to see how zen 2 overclocks. I hear we can do some NB monkeying on the new chips to get some extra performance, but right now it looks to just *barely* edge out intel at a lesser cost. So the value proposition is still the best point for AMD, but this time you won't be losing any IPC performance
... learn what IPC is. AMD's ahead of Intel in IPC by about 7% now. That's how the R7 3800X can beat out the i9-9900K while running 500MHz slower. And Intel doesn't have a 12-core mainstream desktop part, so I dunno how you can say they are "matching" them on performance. Intel's got absolutely no response for Ryzen 9, and the new Ryzen 5's (i7-8700K tier performance for $200) make Intel's value argument on mainstream desktop pretty much non-existent. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
i had one of those chips i had it at 4.2 at the time , it was a good cpu and still can do a lot of light browsing and also web content do to its 4 threads
So glad I stayed with team red since the K6-2 500MHz
So glad I’m an adult that doesn’t call the manufacturer of products I buy “my team”. Same type of shit old people obsessed with “the left” or “the right” does subconsciously to justify their hypocrisy
Ah yes, The days when AMD first dominated Intel. I still have my old AMD 64 with a DFI Lanparty SLI DR 939 Motherboard with a overclocked Opteron 180 Dual core @2.8 Ghz. it was a great system back in it's day before the Intel Conroe based Core II Duo came out.
Nice video!! Can u test the gtx690 you have behind u with 2019 games??
You have the patience of a saint timmy.
My first build in 2006 was a fx 60 and 7900 gtx in sli.
Congrats on 100k and great video
Timmy you should get your hands on Ultra Rare AMD TWKR Processor...
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remember: when it comes to generating DirectX drawcalls, AMD drivers use all cores, Nvidia drivers use only 1
Meaning what in practice
amd drivers potentially more efficient/lower overhead on slower multi-core CPU's
Draw calls are in many cases the limiting factor in cpu performance. And partly why games wanted ipc and clock speed. Dx12 was supposed to address this I had heard
a few years after this era of cpu are still very usable for gaming, ive been using a i7 950 i got new in 2009 until recently, i upgraded to a i7 990x because i didnt wanna get a new mb as well. one of the best intel cpus of its time, 6c12t 990x extreme edition, w a vega 64 i get 60+ fps in gta v online at very high settings 1080p, 1440p, and small frame drop at 4k, w advanced graphics on besides distance scaling. 990x oc 4.7 ghz, vega 64 oc 105 mhz on core and memory
you got it wrong timmy, *Counter-Strike: Source* was released 2004, not 2014 (:
I'm actually daily using an AMD athlon 64 because I sold my CPU Mobo and ram temporarily
Are you getting ready for zen 2? Or are you going with the underdogs offerings?
@@railshot888 I'm gonna get zen + because it will let cheep soon
Are you addicted to crack rock?
Back in the day AMD beats Intel with everything they had, but this time, AMD still planing to launch Zen 3, and 5nm EUV products comes next. I wonder how Intel will react
Could it run Cinebench r23? I can't find the SP's tech lab channel.
I never knew a Pentium could be extreme
Should have used the same graphics card as for the AMD build for a proper comparison...
😀 yay the i3 before the i3
🙂 so will third gen ryzen perform decently without overclocking on cheap A boards? 😀
Third gen Ryzen CPUs aren't supported on AM4 A chip boards.
@@Scitch87 ☺️ darn
i have this motherboard that was swapped to and used to i love that thing. still works nice even today
9999k 14++++++++++++++ last of the line is coming soon.
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LOL, I can't believe this video comes out today. And I have a build with this exact Pentium chip in it, and it's basically the oldest thing that I have running Windows 10 on it. That said, one thing that hurts that build is that the only DDR2 I have is 800mhz at CL6, so even with the considerable increase in capacity over my old Opteron 185 dual core build, the Opteron with DDR400 at CL2 makes it much snappier. The other point of frustration for me, now, is that *ONLY* HWmonitor can read the cpu temp correctly. Speccy, Afterburner, HWinfo, none of that can.
Since I nickname successful PC builds after Pokemon, and given the lore about the Presler CPU's being like two heads fighting for resources, I nicknamed it *Zweilous*. Specs for mine are:
Pentium D 965 (3.73GHz stock @ 4.26 -> 16x multi) - stock voltage, amazingly enough and prime95 stable, using an Enermax 120mm air cooler w/ 2 fans
Asus P5WD2-E Premium motherboard
4x2GB DDR2-800 6-6-6 timings
Gigabyte R9 270X Windforce
Think I need to swap WiFi cards, because the USB WiFi dongle I tried giving it at first, seems to constantly stop connecting on me. Did you have a link to the video for overclocking the Pentium D though? I'm curious to see if i can squeeze more out of it.
Every AMD chip released since the original Athlon had a higher IPC than Netburst. Including Bulldozer. So when the Pentium 4 was what you could get new from Intel, all four series of chips from AMD had a higher IPC - Athlon XP, Athlon 64 (including X2), Phenom, and Phenom II. Intel didn't recoup the IPC crown until Core 2, which was designed for mobile devices, but performed so well that Intel scrapped the P4 line to use it instead.
*The NH-U12a does NOT beat out the NH-D15, it comes closer than any other 120mm Air Cooler on the market, but does NOT beat the D15!*
www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/b4wnq2/noctua_nhu12a_cpu_cooler_review_tested_and/
The U12a is amazing for the size, but it tops out early in the Fan RPM curve, pas 34 DBA in this test is a waste, while the D-15 enjoys a lead at EVERY noise level! And its max noise is about the same.
Noctua pulled off a hell of a feat with those new NF-A12x25 fans, and even more so with the 7 heatpipe 120mm tower cooler that is the NH-U12a, but there is a REASON the NH-D15 is so gigantic - and it is not because people like the looks of it, and they sure as hell don't like having incompatible height RAM, but if neither matters to you, the NH-D15 is the BEST PERFORMER out there! If you were to slap on some higher RPM/Pressure/CFM Fans to it, you would see far better cooling from it still, with some MAD LADS running 3x 140mm or 2x 140 and a 120mm fan on the NH-D15 and getting incredible cooling as a result!
TL:DR
Comparatively the NH-D15 has FAR more heat soaking capabilities compared to the U12a, and you better believe when Noctua releases their new 140mm fan with >0.5mm tip clearance, that I WILL be putting one of those on my D15! I already use the NF-A12x25 for the front intake, and it does seem to do better than the 2250 RPM Corsair SP-120 PE I replaced it with while being quieter. I use 120 on the front for RAM and case clearance.
@@Dysphoricsmile, exactly. Can confirm through using two NH-D15 in two systems. Once you do some deep diving into the specs and how much heat these coolers can handle, you will not want an AIO. I did months of research on every part before building my pc last Oct., It's too much for me to put here but if you do your own research into the NH-D15 and its competitors, you will see how and why Noctua is king. I can't wait for those fans for mine too.
windows 10 might not getting along with the Intel Pentium D EXTREME and usb chip set
Did you compare the Systems with Win XP?
I've got a Pentium in my room PC, its 1155 socket and its going to be an i7 soon
that season 3 intro looks nice. Go 80's sitcom and have an extended full intro song!
bahahaha man that would have been funny
2:06 Two completely separate CPU dies, in fact. Linked only by the FSB. It's SMP on a single package, not a dual-core chip.
Ooh a 295 I have one of those shelved, but it's what I perceive to be the more interesting one, with the two separate boards sandwiched around the cooler
Sp's tech lab is amazing
Oh god 4,000 on Fire Strike with a 780 Ti xD Back when I had my 780 Ti it did almost 10,000... Damn those glued Pentium 4s have not aged well!
Neither has the 780Ti my Reference R9 290 gets a 14152 graphics score in firetrike with a first gen core i7 875k. the overall score is not the greatest because old i7 but the graphics side beats Timmy's 780ti that was in a i7 7920X 8c/16t bench,
@@bdhale34 I'm happy for you I guess.
i wonder how a ryzen 7 3700x does in cinebench r9.6
I herd this guy makes videos about computers on the internet so I came here on the Netscape
Some older intel board cant disable the core.... i had an asus p5q premium paired with xeon e5450 managed to run an overclock from 3ghz to 4.4ghz just before the p5q premium ran into voltage problems as 12v, 5v, 3.3v started to drop rapid and causing locks up even at stock settings. As i tested the power supply that is in a healthy state. Will be getting another premium or deluxe some day soon
Dude i like your vidéos. It s very fun and instructive. Xd
My best pc i built was a Pentium 4 530 think it was called prescott 3ghz for a friend back in 2006-2008 cant rem exactly.His still using it to play command and conquer and pc building sim :D.Only problem that pc ever gave me was that the gpu blew.It's a 915gux mobo which are a board that use ddr 2 and i just installed 4gb ram in it a few days a go for an upgrade.Sad part is the cpu's only 32bit so can't use the 4gb :s
I have the eVGA nVIDIA nFORCE 680i SLI rev.2 motherboard, if you require some assistance. i was getting 4300 in FireStrike with the Q6600 GO stepping OC'ed to 3.8GHz and 2 GTS 450's in SLI. this 11 year old PC plays games without the SSE.4 instruction really good. Sniper Elite Zombie Army 2, 3 and Sniper 3 run at 1080p 60fps max settings. Using 2 GTS 450's. it even runs Sniper 4 pretty good. The Q6600 is a beast. 380cb Cinebench R15. that chip scales with CB R15. if it could hit 4GHz, it would get 400cb.
the only d back then worth buying was the 805. it was the cheapest chip and you could get it to the upper 3ghz on air and 4ghz under water. there was a lot of buzz around the 805d when it was released with prominent tech sites like tom's and anandtech showing how easy it was to push the chip. if anyone subscribed to tj's channel has an 805d you should donate it for a vid.
Pentium Extreme Edition CPU
The combination is better on i955X / i975X motherboards.
Some P35/P45 and X48 boards are limited to vcore 1.4v and cannot be used properly.
I use it with a P5WD2 premium board
Reach 1.48 v 4.6 to 4.8 GHz!!
But hot 🔥 55~70c
Have you tested the effect of faster memory? Netburst likes faster memory from what I remember
I cant even get CSGO to launch now
System specs
Xeon E5430 stock
Gtx 750 ocd
4gb ddr2 ram
G31M-ES2L mobo
Whats the Issue?
roll back the GPU drivers? Delete them through DDU in Safe Mode and install from nvidia.com ?
@@previousslayer i know how toDDU the drivers but which is the most stable? Im runing the latest 430.86 driver
@@dexsters5643 not sure about stable, but afaik some version from 2016 showed the best performance. Those are available at Guru3D. Never managed to defeat Windows updating them to the latest one tho (spare PC with a 750 Ti) and the Group Policy Editor trick somehow disabled the card altogether until I reverted it all. So latest version it is, and I haven't touched that machine for some time
the sad thing is you dont have a bad gpu :D
Timmy why do you not test the [ compare ] the 4960x with the newest generations
This is pretty insane Timmy lol!
SO CLOSE TO 100K are we gonna get the 100k special upload?!?!
As a kid this was my dream processor. I thought it was the best thing to own. Lol
You did it you brought the intro of you screaming puter parts again thank you
Awesome video 👍
So close to 100k!!!
Got the same doug demuro video as you in my recommended.
Bored doug is funny as fuck
great video but to let you know the pentium d 965 extreme come out in 2005 a full 7 years be for csgo ;) i think you are thinking about counter strike source as that come out in 2004
The reason the ground is dropping out is because that CPU cannot keep up with that GPU, the CPU is bottlenecking like mad. Also you're using a CPU from the netburst architecture but the GPU is used to Core architecture or AMD architecture. Those CPU's in Pentium 4 and Pentium D are netburst and totally different microarchitectures. You need to pair a GPU and CPU that are compatible. Netburst architecture is really old.
Maybe it has something to do with AMD providing better continuous driver support for longer periods of time to iron out little kinks.
Counter strike source is from 2004. You were playing global offensive.
COMPUTER PARTS! Woo!
You should have used XP lol
Cool, Commodore 64. I have my Atari megaSTE 4 + about 100lbs of books and software for it and an Atari 800. Gonna sell them though.
I read Pentium and "extreme " and laughed 😂. Didn't know such a thing existed
Me too lol
I am using Athlon II X2 270 for about 6 years now no problems whatsoever and I am waiting AMD to release new 3rd gen Ryzen CPU's so that I can buy a 1st or 2nd gen Ryzen 5 CPU :-D
PS: I don't game much, I repair for $ mainly PC's so I don't need the best processor anyway...
very interesting. Now how does a amd laptop cpu from 2008 do in 2019?
Terrrrribly
@@TimmyJoePCTech I got a toshiba laptop (p505d-s8934) from one of the people that came to my graduation party. They said I could have it as it was not working. I somehow fixed it (powered on but nothing happened no display). I took it apart cleaned it up and all and replaced paste/pads and found that the cpu was an amd one. Supposedly low end model but am curious on how it does in 2019 with today's amd optimizations.
It is on windows 7. I updated it to w7 pro and had to install sp1 before I did. I not updated to windows 10 pro yet but the hard drive is very old. 5400rpm 320gb drive and has speeds of like 30mb/s read/write from hd info program I used.
Infinity fabric? Durrr, no. The athlon was a legit dual core, while Intel's later quads were slapped together, and even the p4s over fsb. The Athlon didn't have hyperthreading, although the p4 wasn't that good at it, especially in games. Also, you could get an Opteron instead of a fx for much cheaper. Also, the Athlon had a slower fsb, and ddr1 but could be overclocked, and board performance varied by chipset. Maybe the newer boards used ddr2, but I never used those. Ddr1 had lower latency, but also lower capacity. The best chipset was nforce4, but drivers were absolute crap past xp, although you could go xp64 and get best case scenario.
Also, GCN is vastly superior to Kepler in modern graphics.
I had a nforce4 4gb Ddr1 500 MHz, 1:1 fsb with ram, lowest timings, and it was a beast. When it came to ddr2, that was phenom territory, which the phenom 2 was pretty good at least until the i7. Also, ddr1-2=no memory vulnerability. Speaking of, none of Intel's older hyperthreading CPUs are safe to use anymore. +1 AMD.
that chip only overclocks well on a ddr2 board as with most early 775 chips the chipset controls memory on this platform and the ddr2 controller is much more mature at this point in time, I have used the p45 chipset to get 6ghz on 775 chips the ee chip i couldn't do with my set up my phase change cooler is to worn out for them hot boiz. I have a GA-P45-UD3R if anyone cares.
Wow we have come a LONG WAY! My 8700k at 5 GHZ scores 221 Single Thread in CB R15, slightly better than BOTH cores combined on this CPU at stock!
I do remember the first time AMD was really kicking it to Intel XD Intels response P4 1.5ghz no good vs 1ghz claw hammer oc to 1.45ghz, raw 45% speed gains on air pencil unlock
I have the same processor Pentium extreme edition 965 and Iam using windows 11 on it with 4 gb of ram my score on cinabench r23 was 551 without overclock . I don’t understand why you have so much low numbers ..
I'll never understand why people get all excited when a manufacturer makes a claim. I'll wait for the benchmarks.
Not all cores are the same, and just comparing clocks across manufacturers means nothing.
Hey @TimmyJoe, You said Counter Strike Source came out in 2014, Im Pretty sure you meant CS:GO, because Counter Strike Source came out in 2005, Also AMD All The Way BABY
Got the windows open because the Athlon space heater is on.
This is kind of like the analog of today’s 9900ks.... which is doubt will ever have sufficient supply anyway.
soo close to 100k!!!!!!!!
i use a i3 540 and i got 5 k h on gta V and it got as same score on cina bench
Everyone realizes Intel's next release is going to leapfrog these amd chips by like 20% right?
Not if they can't make 10nm chips that aren't low powered laptop chips. Intel is legit behind right now, it's not like 2006 when they were near perfecting Conroe
That's fine and dandy but it will most likely not happen this year and with intel's rep I'm betting you're gonna pay a major premium. Also amd is still far from done with their new systems. We'll likely see another cpu from them within 2 years. It's gonna be a leapfrog game.
How does four threads per core sound? Hint: its not Intel that has this on its roadmap...
benchmark the top of the line ORIGINAL phenoms too! Show just how much you could of improved when that came out vs this. We all KNOW the phenom II and i7s and cored2quad was better, but compare a range of the original Phenoms vs these and what else was around!
Just how did they stack up? they are practically NEVER shown. Should show just how well those can be on a top of the line compatible platform with overclock as well as a high end of the day!
so you finally got one... yay ✌✌
Isn't bottlenecked putting that modern GPU against that old CPU? Seems like it wouldn't be a good fit.
A Phenom II X4 3.2ghz cinebench score beat it by 3X...
Someone gave me an old Atom Dell computer. It has a tiny little heatsink and 20 or 30mm fan
*Yea...*
*AMD did just give a HUGE 🖕😎 to Intel.*
*They deserve dat shit tho.*
I have 3 Pentium Ds from 3Ghz-3.6Ghz. All are beaten by a Core 2 Duo 2Ghz lol
often pentium D was even beaten by the single core athlon 64
ikr sad how bad pentuim d are
I want that aldi model c64 in the back that I just noticed.
cool video man
I don't know who this Terry Cruz is, he does have an impressive body.
Timmy Joe, next time please show us a side to side comparison to a Ryzen CPU if you have one lying around. That Pentium D seemed tiny to me.
It is actually socket 775 is pretty tiny
@@TimmyJoePCTech
So I saw it correctly. I used your thumb as a reference.