I would go for the Enfield if I were to pay for it myself. Although that Classic with the windsreen and chrome pipe was awesome. The guys I mostly ride with are Harley fan boys, respectively Road Glide, Softail and a Dyna. These are all older, "real" Harleys and must admit to that they look and sound awesome. As I ride a Vulcan I get some stick, on the other hand they propably just envy the fact that they never have to wait for me as I don´t have to tinker with my bike. And I have a shorter wheel base so on our curvy roads I have to hold back a little so they can keep up. Not one of these guys like the new Harleys and they really should be in the main target group for new bike sales. So they will ride their older bikes for as long as they are able to ride, and HD will propably fold in just a few years time. HD has lost sight of it´s heritage, they used to build bikes for the masses, now they stubbornly try to cater to the upper end of the market. Without realizing that the train has left the station. Royal Enfield is now what HD used to be, they do everything right at this moment in time.
Hi,i hope you family is doing well, I love my xl 1200c it is just what I love about a cool ass bike and I rode the new scout 60 and it seemed hard on the bumps,potholes..etc. but when I get done with the sporty and may just get a scout then but a few years from now!
As an owner of more than one Harley I a most impressed by the Indian Scout line because the motor looks good from either the left or right side which is something Harley failed miserably at. Worse for Harley their radiators are ridiculous an harm the styling
Looks nice for sure, I just looked up the price in my country for fun, and even the cheapest model costs 15900 euros! And they still put in the marketing bits about there being "no excuse" to not get an Indian now. Pretty funny
Yeah, I'm not sure if it's tarriffs or what but Euro prices are ridiculous on American bikes. Here in Canada it's actually relatively reasonabl for what you're getting.
Bit surprised they re-launch the Scout 60! The market needs lower cc bikes or Adventure bikes. The FTR would make a good starting point for one. I would of liked to see a more classic looking 750cc looking bike at a lower price range. As a current Indian rider I was drawn by the unique classic look, the fender the lines of the bike but they seem to be dropping all the classic looking baggers. That's what set them aside from Harley!! Also the Roadmaster and the Chieftain were to have water cooled engines for 2025, assume that's going to wait till mid 2025 as the early 2026 release!!
I have 2016 Harley Roadster Cafe’d out. Yes it has 5 Speed - and you might think that isn’t enough. But it’s all about gear ratio and torque. I live in Los Angeles CA, and my 5-speed bike needs to cruise in highway at 85~90 mph (and often close to 100 mph when passing). And it does that flawlessly at 4~5k rpm. Yep, CA highway moves fast when its flowing.
Honestly, the only practical electric motorcycles are city commuters and dirt bikes. I hope RE doesn't try to build an E-Himalayan that will get you 50km up a mountain before the battery goes dead.
Agreed. The Scouts look nicer than the Nightster. I like the idea of the Nightster, but it needs to look cooler. Also, I’d like to see a 750 version available as HD’s most entry-level offering, though I’m sure it would be near impossible to make the math work. 👍
The new Indian Scout Sixty would be my first choice if it weren’t for the recently unveiled Royal Enfield Classic 650 at EICMA, which really impressed me. I need to see both in person to decide. That said, in my country, Spain, Indian still has few dealerships. The closest one to me is about an hour away. Meanwhile, Harley-Davidson and Royal Enfield have dealerships almost everywhere here and across Europe.
@AngelGarcia-do4bj más o menos, son dos estilos que me gustan, las cruiser y las motos de estilo clásico, no me importa mucho la diferencia de potencia, hoy día tengo una 883 y me parece suficiente para mi.
I recommend Indian as an entry level model. They are infinitely better designed than Harley's equivalent. The Nightster is an afterthought. Unfortunately. I say this as a former owner of the real Nightster, which actually was a classic cool bike.
I have my Rebel 1100 DCT now for 1 year and 10,000 km, and I am more excited than in the beginning in terms of performance and looks. With the Scout, I was disappointed to see, that the rear tire is only a 150 "thin" rubber, more suitable to an adventure bike than a cruiser. Don't know, if this has changed with the new versions?
Seems like a fine bike. I like em older and cheaper for cruiser bikes, if I'm slowing down to smell the roses its on an old air cooled carbureted motorcycle. Less is more
Not sure but I would guess that Indian would not miss the opportunity to make $ on that. I'd contact your local dealer. I'm sure they'll have all the info.
I actually liked their LQQK over the last several years but they are some heavy beasts..... lol, I wouldn't want to pick one up but I wouldn't want to pick any bike up. I bet there are some good prices in the used cruiser market? I've not looked but I just might as the new ones get too overpriced? peace out - good video
Thanks! You can get a used Japanese cruiser like the Honda Shadow 750 for the lint in your pocket these days. Those are the best deals in motorcycling IMO.
You know, without me looking at any of them it seems like I heard some other riders saying exactly that. Like there's a small "glut" of 250-500 cc cruiser bikes that were cheap brand new so I imagine that "Lint" can buy a few of them? I do like some of the Indian's.... pretty sharp but everything is pricey now. peace
The HD nightster is like Centre Pompidou; everything is exposed and that is an esthetical choice. So I don't agree that the HD has a sloppy design compared with the Indian. That sayd, you don't have to like it of course.
I'll openly admit that I'm not a fan of Indian motorcycles. Much of that has to do with the terrible, TERRIBLE service i received at the local dealership that deals in Honda, BMW, Indian, and the Polaris stuff. Lots of Polaris stuff. They are the no. 1 reason i ride a Harley and probably always will. The only reason I don't have a nightster is that ridiculous price Harley started with when it first launched. $15k plus all the extra nonsense. What a jackass move, Harley! They almost sunk that bike right there. Maybe they did? Too soon to tell. I bought an LRS instead, and im not looking back. If i could get any of these smaller, liquid cooled offerings, it would be the nightster s. I do like performance, and having more power on less weight sounds like a win-win!
I'm not a 🌈 communist, so I won't buy a Harley, so I bought a Triumph and probably will always ride Triumph. Don't like a company, don't deal with them. Don't blame Indian for a local Honda dealer.
@logangodofcandy yeah, cause Triumph and Indian don't have woke policies, huh? Yeah, they're pure as the driven snow, I'm sure. Or maybe robby Starbuck just didn't run a hit piece on them like he did Harley? Anyway, my politics has nothing to do with the motorcycle I ride, but maybe I like rainbows and snowflakes? What's it to you? Btw, I'm not judging Indian based on Honda. I'm judging it based on an Indian dealership. That's why they sell Indian motorcycles. Hello? That's why it says "Indian" on the building. They also sell BMW and Polaris. Why didn't you mention them? Just sounds better when you throw shade at Honda? I'd rather own a Honda than an Indian. Oh wait, i do own a Honda, too. Doesn't matter anyway. I'm not a fan of Indian. They copy Harley Davidson too much. I'd feel like I'm riding the "wanna be" motorcycle. But maybe you should not judge all Harley dealerships and Harley riders based on the corporate office and their politics? See how that works?
For city riding 5 gears is plenty. And I think that's the intention. Honestly, I think they look amazing and 80hp is enough for most people.
The ratios put the 5th gear in 6th gear territory. IMHO what Harley should have done that with the Evo sporties.
Yep. That's the power level of the Rebel 1100 and that's a fast bike.
My triumph bobber, thus the t120 and speedmaster do EVERYTHING in 4 gears. You could stay in 3, if you aren't worried about your gas lol
@@MrHasiethey did. The international "hdi" sportster transmission sprocket was geared taller.
@ interesting, so Harley intentionally did this to push U.S. buyers to more expensive platforms. Thanks for the info.
Make like RuPaul and tuck it in 🤣🤣
I would go for the Enfield if I were to pay for it myself. Although that Classic with the windsreen and chrome pipe was awesome. The guys I mostly ride with are Harley fan boys, respectively Road Glide, Softail and a Dyna. These are all older, "real" Harleys and must admit to that they look and sound awesome. As I ride a Vulcan I get some stick, on the other hand they propably just envy the fact that they never have to wait for me as I don´t have to tinker with my bike. And I have a shorter wheel base so on our curvy roads I have to hold back a little so they can keep up. Not one of these guys like the new Harleys and they really should be in the main target group for new bike sales. So they will ride their older bikes for as long as they are able to ride, and HD will propably fold in just a few years time. HD has lost sight of it´s heritage, they used to build bikes for the masses, now they stubbornly try to cater to the upper end of the market. Without realizing that the train has left the station. Royal Enfield is now what HD used to be, they do everything right at this moment in time.
Hi,i hope you family is doing well, I love my xl 1200c it is just what I love about a cool ass bike and I rode the new scout 60 and it seemed hard on the bumps,potholes..etc. but when I get done with the sporty and may just get a scout then but a few years from now!
Yes, the Scout Bobbers are especially bad over the rough pavement. I think they only have 2 inches of travel in the shock.
Cheers to you and your whole family, from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
As an owner of more than one Harley I a most impressed by the Indian Scout line because the motor looks good from either the left or right side which is something Harley failed miserably at. Worse for Harley their radiators are ridiculous an harm the styling
Looks nice for sure, I just looked up the price in my country for fun, and even the cheapest model costs 15900 euros! And they still put in the marketing bits about there being "no excuse" to not get an Indian now. Pretty funny
yeah... harley and indian bikes in europe are fucking expensive... I wish it started from 9,999€
Yeah, I'm not sure if it's tarriffs or what but Euro prices are ridiculous on American bikes. Here in Canada it's actually relatively reasonabl for what you're getting.
They have their insane tariffs on US, so god emperor Trump will tariff them. Put a 50% on foreign vehicles and call it a day
Maybe some import tax driving the prices up?
@@DifferentSpokesTV EU tariff on US motorcycles is 31% if I'm not mistaken.
Good video and agree with your comments. My wife had a Nightster Special, it was great but didn’t get ridden enough to keep. These do look better.
Indian is killing it with these bikes at that price point.
Boy do I miss old sportsters! In the current range, I would definitely go for the Indian, as I do also appreciate the effort towards affordability.
Bit surprised they re-launch the Scout 60! The market needs lower cc bikes or Adventure bikes. The FTR would make a good starting point for one. I would of liked to see a more classic looking 750cc looking bike at a lower price range. As a current Indian rider I was drawn by the unique classic look, the fender the lines of the bike but they seem to be dropping all the classic looking baggers. That's what set them aside from Harley!! Also the Roadmaster and the Chieftain were to have water cooled engines for 2025, assume that's going to wait till mid 2025 as the early 2026 release!!
I have 2016 Harley Roadster Cafe’d out. Yes it has 5 Speed - and you might think that isn’t enough. But it’s all about gear ratio and torque. I live in Los Angeles CA, and my 5-speed bike needs to cruise in highway at 85~90 mph (and often close to 100 mph when passing). And it does that flawlessly at 4~5k rpm. Yep, CA highway moves fast when its flowing.
Royal Enfied recently announced an electric motorcycle line coming next year, should be interesting to see how much they undercut Zero and Livewire
Honestly, the only practical electric motorcycles are city commuters and dirt bikes. I hope RE doesn't try to build an E-Himalayan that will get you 50km up a mountain before the battery goes dead.
Great price only issue is my local dealer still puts an upcharge for items avg 1500.00 which is too much I think .
Agreed. The Scouts look nicer than the Nightster. I like the idea of the Nightster, but it needs to look cooler. Also, I’d like to see a 750 version available as HD’s most entry-level offering, though I’m sure it would be near impossible to make the math work. 👍
Yeah I agree. I'd also like to see a 750 or 975 dirt tracker, scrambler or cafe bike for sub 8K. Good luck with that wish though.
Good looking bike, good video 👍
The new Indian Scout Sixty would be my first choice if it weren’t for the recently unveiled Royal Enfield Classic 650 at EICMA, which really impressed me. I need to see both in person to decide. That said, in my country, Spain, Indian still has few dealerships. The closest one to me is about an hour away. Meanwhile, Harley-Davidson and Royal Enfield have dealerships almost everywhere here and across Europe.
Comparas esta moto con la royal?
@AngelGarcia-do4bj más o menos, son dos estilos que me gustan, las cruiser y las motos de estilo clásico, no me importa mucho la diferencia de potencia, hoy día tengo una 883 y me parece suficiente para mi.
@Sr.D entiendo, además supongo que la royal es imbatible en precio, ojo a mí me encanta, pero la indian me gusta más. Un saludo
I recommend Indian as an entry level model. They are infinitely better designed than Harley's equivalent. The Nightster is an afterthought. Unfortunately. I say this as a former owner of the real Nightster, which actually was a classic cool bike.
Looks great
How big is the Fuel ⛽️ tank in litre
Sportsters have a very small tank
Silver Classic got a nice look imo
I have my Rebel 1100 DCT now for 1 year and 10,000 km, and I am more excited than in the beginning in terms of performance and looks. With the Scout, I was disappointed to see, that the rear tire is only a 150 "thin" rubber, more suitable to an adventure bike than a cruiser. Don't know, if this has changed with the new versions?
Seems like a fine bike. I like em older and cheaper for cruiser bikes, if I'm slowing down to smell the roses its on an old air cooled carbureted motorcycle. Less is more
Do you know if Indian Performance Calibration is available for the Scout 60? On Scout models it increases Hp from 105 to 111 for $220 US.
Not sure but I would guess that Indian would not miss the opportunity to make $ on that. I'd contact your local dealer. I'm sure they'll have all the info.
Adding 5-6 Hp would put Scout 60 right there power wise with the Nightster.
The scout looks way better than the nightster
Polaris-Indian not soon bankrupt as Harley?
I actually liked their LQQK over the last several years but they are some heavy beasts..... lol, I wouldn't want to pick one up
but I wouldn't want to pick any bike up. I bet there are some good prices in the used cruiser market? I've not looked but
I just might as the new ones get too overpriced? peace out - good video
Thanks! You can get a used Japanese cruiser like the Honda Shadow 750 for the lint in your pocket these days. Those are the best deals in motorcycling IMO.
You know, without me looking at any of them it seems like I heard some other riders saying exactly that. Like there's
a small "glut" of 250-500 cc cruiser bikes that were cheap brand new so I imagine that "Lint" can buy a few of them?
I do like some of the Indian's.... pretty sharp but everything is pricey now. peace
Nice looking bike for sure, good video 👍
The HD nightster is like Centre Pompidou; everything is exposed and that is an esthetical choice. So I don't agree that the HD has a sloppy design compared with the Indian. That sayd, you don't have to like it of course.
I'll openly admit that I'm not a fan of Indian motorcycles. Much of that has to do with the terrible, TERRIBLE service i received at the local dealership that deals in Honda, BMW, Indian, and the Polaris stuff. Lots of Polaris stuff. They are the no. 1 reason i ride a Harley and probably always will. The only reason I don't have a nightster is that ridiculous price Harley started with when it first launched. $15k plus all the extra nonsense. What a jackass move, Harley! They almost sunk that bike right there. Maybe they did? Too soon to tell. I bought an LRS instead, and im not looking back. If i could get any of these smaller, liquid cooled offerings, it would be the nightster s. I do like performance, and having more power on less weight sounds like a win-win!
Good points. The Nightster would have a better chance if it cost 10K US.
I'm not a 🌈 communist, so I won't buy a Harley, so I bought a Triumph and probably will always ride Triumph.
Don't like a company, don't deal with them. Don't blame Indian for a local Honda dealer.
@logangodofcandy yeah, cause Triumph and Indian don't have woke policies, huh? Yeah, they're pure as the driven snow, I'm sure. Or maybe robby Starbuck just didn't run a hit piece on them like he did Harley? Anyway, my politics has nothing to do with the motorcycle I ride, but maybe I like rainbows and snowflakes? What's it to you?
Btw, I'm not judging Indian based on Honda. I'm judging it based on an Indian dealership. That's why they sell Indian motorcycles. Hello? That's why it says "Indian" on the building. They also sell BMW and Polaris. Why didn't you mention them? Just sounds better when you throw shade at Honda? I'd rather own a Honda than an Indian. Oh wait, i do own a Honda, too. Doesn't matter anyway. I'm not a fan of Indian. They copy Harley Davidson too much. I'd feel like I'm riding the "wanna be" motorcycle. But maybe you should not judge all Harley dealerships and Harley riders based on the corporate office and their politics? See how that works?
Scout all day. The nightster is hideous
Thinking $10,000 MSRP good for "entry level" is ridiculous. Buy a Royal Enfield or a Honda.
Different realm.
Yes, RE has some really good 650 models. The Rebel 1100 is 9K but honestly I'd rather have Scout Bobber. It does look way more cool.