Railway Roundabout 1958 'Southampton Docks'
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2012
- We finally end the Railway Roundabout in 1958, at the Southern Railway's Southampton docks, where we see the USA tanks and featuring rare footage of LBSC's E2 class no.32109 (best known as Leo in mine and Tomthetrainfan's NRWS)
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I bet most people came here just to see the basis of Thomas the Tank Engine in action.
It's a real shame that there's rarely any footage of the E2 class or any survivors for that matter.
I feel like watching another Thomas episode.
Well, there is a society being set up to build an E2
I'm aware of that. By the same guy who makes those beautiful RWS-styled Thomas models.
+BR 33017 s James Horrex(Horrax?), or better known as JH5500. He's also modelling faces for The Angry Welshman's "Over the Hills" series.
nope i like the usa
Thomas, Rosie, and Rebecca are all visiting Southampton in 1958 in BR liveries for a few days. Amazing!
And Henry! :)
@@nicholasrangel7099 No, not Henry
@Anonymous there wasn’t a black 5, there was a standard 5
And murdoch
@@SalmanMentos the engine there was a lord nelson not a 9f
It's great to see E2s in action, but it's also great to see the great liner, Queen Elizabeth, at the port.
And if only Rebecca was written as a believable character. BWBA has alot of lost potential, as stated by the Unlucky Tug. Rebecca had an interesting basis, which as seen in this vid, has a bit of wheelslip problems. Anyone wanna take off after me, cause I'm lazy to explain it all lol.
I think that the ship behind them, judging by her livery and the forward well deck essentially becoming a promenade deck, is either the RMS _Edinburgh Castle_ or the RMS _Pretoria Castle._
@@Daniel_Huffman You may be right. That ship is certainly a Union Castle Line vessel.
And it’s also great to see that this is the same harbor that titanic left port
GWR Studios brought me here
Same
Same
Same
Same
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I'd imagine Rosie, her sisters and brothers and Thomas' brothers working at Southampton.
I never thought of that
@YOrbiTer 12 that's what I was thinking
@YOrbiTer 12 I meant I never thought about thomas and Rosies family tree and that they might have know each other before coming to sodor
@YOrbiTer 12 Actually, that would be nearly impossible. Thomas was built and sold in 1915 to Sodor, Rosie and her siblings were went to Southampton during the 1940's, to help with the war effort, so here's my theory.
Thomas would probably know Rosie during the Second World War, where she was sent to Sodor. She proved far greater then the E2, which made Thomas jealous and worried for his siblings.
But during the 60's, when Diesels started to replace Steam, he had sympathy for Rosie, and then the two would be made friends.
So there.
Not only they were working there the basis of Rebecca and Henry were working there too
Everyone talking about thomas: me wow i love the old times
Lair your here for Thomas
@Johnny Kootenay same but your pfp tells me your also here for someone else
Percy
Also starring: the RMS Queen Elizabeth
@@isbryanflyingordying2202 nah just me love steam trains.
Guys thomas isnt a jinty isnt a e2 hes a baby e2 he is that class
We visited Southampton Docks with school in the early 1960s. A dock employee giving us school children a conducted tour. Thanks for the memories.
Did you get to see an e2
The puffing sounds of the E2 are similar to that of the chuffing sound effects in S1-2. But are more slowed down and with lots of steam sounds .
It is important to note the sounds are not original.
4:35 holy crap that wheel slip was unexpected
Indeed
Kai The Gamer
Thats old locos man
That engine is rebecca
Rebecca: *wheelslips* whoopies
Dr Key no it’s that they don’t have grip from the heavy load idiot
Calm down it wasn't to bad or dramatic
I remember in the 60s when trains still use to go across the Red Funnel entrance in Southampton to the docks
A great film, featuring some of my favorite Southern region locomotives, the USA tanks, E2 0-6-0s, the Bulleid West Country class, and even some of Maunsell's 4-6-0s! I particularly liked seeing the American side tanks roaming the docksides, as they had quite the distinction between other locos at the docks, like the LBSC engines, inside cylinders and British as can be.
*favoUrite .learn english firzt!
@@adolflenin4973 bro you don't know English yourself
Also there's two way to say favorite
The American way which is favorite, and the British way with favourite
Queen Elizabeth + E2s + Battle of Britains ?!? Am I in heaven?
KKTrain Springer i think We are yes
Yez
...archive railway films are worth their weight in gold, thanks for sharing 👌
at this moment,thomas said goodbye to his relatives,hes the only one alive today
I don’t think there are any e2s left
@@dxagon4226 None in real life.
@@dxagon4226 Just toy ones. I mean, I grew up with model TTTE, so Thomas is a toy to me.
Is this the only video of the E2s at work ?
Yes as there are none preserved. Matt
But I see another video of the e2 work at the dock
Yes sadly. :-(
Ye
Yes unfortunately they are all gone
I love how the E2 is technically the most recognized steam locomotive in the world, yet when these things were in service barely anyone paid attention to them.
I love this video not because of the E2s but all the southern locomotives in this video
Angry A4 Pacific Same here, although I do find it pretty neat to see the E2s at work
Yeah but there's some pros and cons about the engines
Yar but sone are br or lms
I find the E2’s cool but I really like the other Engine’s
Same here buddy
From the most unrecognized class in the world, to the most famous
Thomas reference?
3:01 RIP E2 Trains you live in Thomas forever
Thomas:(watches vid)I’ll miss the old days
Percy:watches vid . I will miss working here
Old Thomas Locomotive:*Scraped*
Everyone here who isnt here for thomas: *SHUT UP!*
*Music box Thomas theme starts playing*
Most people are cringing.
It's a real shame that the E2 Class is gone. Although it had it's flaws, it was a beauty of a locomotive and was able to put our childhood into action!
It's also cool to see a USA Dock Tank, being Rosie, and it's also cool seeing it with an E2! Plus, that huge Tender Engine looks like Henry a bit!
I really wish the USA dock tanks were also extinct, I’m sick of thomas fans constantly gushing ‘EMAGERD IT ROSY’ every time there’s a dock tank in steam
It looked good, but that's all that was good about it irl. Otherwise, it was just okay at best and that's only the 2nd batch because the iconic due to Thomas 2nd batch was an attempt to correct the issues the first batch had, like the extended tanks.
I adore the 'running session' of the E2's and the US dock tanks. It intrigues me however the wide variety of passenger locomotives operating passenger runs in the same area usually from what I remember a station is nearby but not this close. Brilliant
It's nice to see an E2 in action. And one of the second batch with the extended tanks too! Also, do you think it's weird that the last two E2s were the last engines in their batches? 32104 and 32109?
Is 32104 the last of the first batch of the e2 engines?
Yeah
1:15 Henry: Hi Thomas! Thomas: hello Henry!
Angel Farfan2009 Angel Farfan2009 that's not Henry that's a Standard 5 No. 73089
@YOrbiTer 12 the engines look alike
That’s actually a unit pacific black five
@Sweden Bork Ball Gordon isn't here either
2:50 Is it me or does the E2 Tank Engine chuffing sound similar to that of Season 1 ?
4:19 I think I know you
Yes
You may be onto something there, actually. It's very similar to the puffing sound when Thomas is stuck in the snow. There isn't much info on the audio production for the original series, but I do know that some of the sounds used were recorded at the Talyllyn Railway. Apart from that, I suppose old railway footage like this could have also been used for audio samples or simply as a reference.
your right
It sounds exactly like season 1
Unlike Thomas, LB&SCR E2 class locomotives weren’t useful. The E2s were limited to only some parts of the docks because they were too long for some of the tight corners and were prone to derailing. They were originally built for light passenger trains but were unreliable for long distance.
Here's A really Useless engine You Know
All the other engines you so
He huffs & Puffs & Whistles
Hauling to & Fro
He's the really useless engine we adore
He's the One
He's the One
He's the really useless engine we adore
He's the One
He's the number One
Thomas the tank engine
Here's A really Useless engine You Know
'Cause the fat Controller he told him so
Now He's a branch line to Call his very own
He's a Really useless engine we adore
He's the One
He's the One
He's the really useless engine we adore
He's the One
He's the number One
Thomas the tank engine
Little Blue train
He's Always whenever you need a hand
If you need help with a situation
Who comes into Mind?
He's the One
He's the One
He's the really useless engine we adore
He's the One
He's the number One
Thomas the tank engine
Here's A really Useless engine You Know
He’s Long and somewhat slow
Stand back in amazement
Just you watch him go
He's the really useless engine we adore
He's the One
He's the One
He's the really useless engine we adore
He's the One
He's the number One
Thomas the tank engine
He's the really useless engine we adore
That's not it they were useful but they just used them for the wrong things. Things that they were not useful for
@TheSkarFacedOne someone said that their bunkers are just fine, the boiler is the thing that should be fixed, so, they are terrible steamers, fixing the boiler is the option for the locomotive to go long distances
@TheSkarFacedOne you can remove or weaken the flange on the middle wheel and make the weight of the cylinders and wheels equal, I watched a video of how you will fix the e2
No
4:47 rms queen elizabeth
That shit is fucking scary
dude she was crowned queen in 1953 this was a documentary in 1958 lol
@@thayenanimations972 they are talking about the ship. Not the Queen.
Most of the comments are about how this is the only footage of the E2 tank engines at work or about Thomas. *I’m only here for the footage of the special express trains that made a connection with the ocean liners*
Proper trains, proper cars proper people and proper ships. All history now.
2:25 if you are here to see "him"
"him" ?
Wendy Gilliam he means Thomas
Thomas, is a tank engine, who lives at the docks, on the LB&SCR Railway(I think?). He loves shunting trucks around the dock yard, he thinks no one works has hard had he does.
ThomasTheUA-camEngine2006 you are correct even in Thomas lore it’s said he was a part of the LB&SCR
Him, do you mean IT?
Yea, many southern locomotives, including USA Tanks, E1s, E2s, and West Country classes, I like it.
really nice to see the docks system again .
2:11 to 3:10
The engine that Thomas the tank engine was based on,
all sent to - s c r a p -
rip
RIP Thomas’ siblings
We know
Rosie and Thomas
LBCS
@@yuri42berofficial no
What's funny is that the sound at 2:50 is the exact same one used in TTTE
The model series
I really like that chuffing sound
It’s a chuffing sound, it could have been anything
it's nice to see an actual E2 in that film.
It’s really nice seeing old steam locos and the old liners all in one video, I like trains thanks to Thomas and ships thanks to Tugs and Titanic
Recce The Blue Tank Engine hello, same for you
Recce The Blue Tank Engine also nice profile picture
I like Thomas and Titanic too.
Absolutely amazing.... Thank you for sharing this with us
amazing video. I love seeing different engines. this is Thomas' orgin! its amazing that only ten were made.
It’s amazing how Rosie and Thomas’ basis were seen next to my favorite ocean liner
Forget Rebecca, she doesn’t deserve to be in the comment.
Rebecca!
*e2 and USA tank
All of a sudden I'm 10years old again, waiting for a USA pulled goods train to pass so that we could cross the line to get to the Red Funnel ferry to go to the Isle of Wight.
Nice to see Thomas' basis working, and that is an E2 whistle we hear with the footage of one, right?
There's a whistle at 3:09 - not sure if it's the E2 or another engine running nearby. What a neat video this is!
@@leeloolab that’s the flanges on the wheels screeching right?
It's lovely to see Thomas and Rosie's basises in action!
IKR!
:)
yibzurky and henry
yibzurky yeah
That One Red Engine and don't forget Merlin! (He's pretty recent so you may not have heard of him)
Kyan Koh yes I know merlin
If it weren't for thomas the E2 would have been forgotten forever!
I sure do wish the e2s were forgotten, they were unreliable crap
0:31: LMS 5MT Black 5
A.K.A. Henry
No, henry is just a black five. That's a standard 5MT.
PlushyDom 2004 it's a Standard five
Angry A4 Pacific JMtrainz You guys are stupid. A black five is a 5mt black five. You guys are arguing about an incorrect name when both of you are pronouncing it’s name correctly
@@overpoweredsteamproduction513 A BR standard 5MT and an LMS black five are very similar, but they are not the same thing.
That’s a BR Standard 5.
Welp.
See You In Railyard Heaven
Awesome E2s and USA tanks working together.
Ye Thomas and Rosie working together is just so beautiful
And Henry
Yay! E1 and E2 locomotives in action!
And some S100s. Although to be fair, there are quite a few of those around. I liked seeing that Std. 5 passing the shunter's depot, as the curve radius on my model railway suddenly felt very realistic.
I also find it funny how England has more working USATC S100s than America does! They're versatile things, although I've always found seeing them with buffers odd, but not exactly bad.
@@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS were the S160 tender locos also sent over by the usatc? they are the best looking American steam locos in my opinion
Thomas in RWS and T&F: small boi
Actual E2s: *big boi*
making Thomas short is really good and Thomas bunker is a lot larger than original e2 making Thomas can go long distance
"Thomas is a Tank Engine, who lives at a big station on the island of Sodor."
Hello
He's a cheeky little engine, with a short stumpy funnel, a short stumpy boiler, and a short stumpy dome.
@@BarthvaderHalloween
But today is a sad day for thomas. He pulled his last load and was taken into the siding, where he was told that he and all his brethren were to be scrapped due to being useless. Promptly, he was placed to the cutters torch and dismantled quickly. His scrap steel then made nicely for a shiny new class 47.
@@bennickss damn
Even though slot of these quite interesting and really cool looking locomotives were scrapped at the end of steam it's very nice to at least be able to see these engines at work
wow, thomas, rosie, rebecca, henry and merlin are all in here
Not Henry, he's a black 5
@@florjanbrudar692 that's the adventure begins James, funnelhead
wrong, e2, usa tank, unrebuilt west country class, standard class 5 and sr lord nelson class are in here, im more than sick of people not shutting up about thomas on steam videos
@@bennickss I think I was referring to there basis at the time, not sure lol
@@bruh1694 No need to be so rude.
It's been said before, but I do wish an E2 was preserved. The fact they're the basis for Thomas aside, they were elegantly designed locomotives, and had a surprisingly long and productive career. Whilst not the most amazing or well-performing locomotives ever made, the E2s found good use as shunters and were clearly quite helpful in some scenarios.
2:13 you all came for this, didn’t you?
No, I didn’t come for that unreliable pile of shit
Man, that Pacific's wheels really went ⛷️
Wheelslip for the win! With diesels it’s almost unnoticeable but with steam it’s very obvious!
@@bennickss The former yes unless it's a diesel with coupling rods
@@bennickss wheel slip can cause serious problems
The beauty of the e2 is stupendous and magnificent
It really is weird to come back to this after growing up on thomas and seeing all of the trucks and engines in real life and in motion
Also something about this narration feels so quintessentially British beyond the origin of the video and narrator accent
That E2 pulling cars, if you imagine a face on it, reminds me of Thomas pulling the Troublesome Trucks.
I could imagine if that kid in the beginning walked by and pointed at the locomotive saying, "Mommy, look, it's Thomas!"
Creeperboy This Takes Place Before Thomas Existed
Tank Engine 75 The show takes place from the 1910's to today
Creeperboy Yeah But If The Future Episodes Feature The Other Railway/British Rail Then It Will Take Place Before 2001 Since By 2001 British Rail Has Been Defunct
Tank Engine 75 Railway Series existed in the 50s.
Fortunately that would have never happened since thomas thankfully wasn’t as excessively popular as it is now back then
With the Thin Clergyman writing the Railway Series, you'd think some of these locomotives would be preserved.
ZZASCHA well pretty much every class of locomotive you see in this video is preserved the only loco not preserved in this video is the E2
And there's a good reason why no E2s were preserved. They were very inefficient and were weak locos.
Yar
But beaching
@Goldfish but it's true, and I like the E2. But the they were too big for the dockside bends, which is why the USA Class was used instead because they were much shorter than the E2
came here for the usa tanks, was not disappointed.
R.I.P. E2 Tank Engines :'(
😢😢😢
and then thomas died
@@nibblesfromanimalcrossing thomas is the only one left
Burn in hell useless scrap piles
1915-1963
This is amazing 🤩
I never knew Thomas worked at the docks before he came to Sodor.
Yeah... I guess he did...
NuriToxican LOL yeah XD
No, all of these engines were cut up for scrap, they were not transferred anywhere else.
LocoScrapper finally someone else that knows e2s are dead
There is a "plan" to build one from scratch, however the website looks like it has been set up for free by a teenage fanboy and is lacking some major components such as a donate button!
Outstanding 💯 what a bit of history
fascinating footage.
4:48 What's quite sad is the Queen Elizabeth was sold to the Chinese in 1970 and the ship caught fire in Hong Kong harbor two years later. She was the largest passenger ship lost up to that point.
Was that the wrecked Ship seen in the Bond Move, ‘’The Man With The Golden Gun’’?
Why is everyone here complaining about people mentioning Thomas? Its the only footage that exists to our knowledge of the E2s in action. What did you expect?
Because thomas is based on the E2
2x2x2x2 i know, im talking about people in the comments complaining about people commenting about Thomas on this video.
Alex Hollst I think because people are sometime love to make fun of them or that they are annoyed
Alex Hollst They Want To Embarass Us Hardcore Railfans
Tank Engine 75 It’s because nowadays Thomas is nothing but an embarrassment to railway industry
FINALLY! A video of a running e2! Thank you sooooo much!
fun fact: thomas in the day out with thomas event is technically the only existing e2's irl (i think)
R.I.P thomas the e2 class engine
Can we all please stop arguing? The E2s weren't great but if someone likes something, you don't need to force them to think it's garbage
Let the Thomas fans like E2s because of him. I mean DeLoreans weren't that great, but people like them because of movies, so same idea.
+Colin Langford. You were right about it being Millbrook. Millbrook is the site of the container terminal now and they're talking about expanding it westwards. There's a lot of local opposition to this. All the railway infrastructure on the eastern side of the docks is now defunct save for one line that comes down from St. Denys past what was the old Southampton Terminus station. It crosses Canute Road as it winds down to the vehicle import/export facility.
Seeing 2 of my favorite things together in the same video makes me happy. Rms Queen Elizabeth and the E2 class ;
:)
"best known as Leo in mine and Tomthetrainfan's NRWS"
Sorry folks, turn out the best known instance of an E2 is the fictional "Thomas the Tank Engine"
What's so funny is noone realises the basis for cranky and that one boat always at brendom docks is in this
JayTS Gaming Cranky has no real life basis
man, trains are so cool
You mean engines
@@sirwelcome yeah, im aware they're not called trains but i just like calling them that lol
@@CPGreeno357 What kind of trains? There's a freight train in the video, that E2 pulling cars.
Awesome Footage, I love it.
I miss the real life e2s
@Ethan Schmid Me!
@Man With 9000 IQ yeah the E2s brakes where rubbish and the locomotive couldnt balance well and Also it was hard af to make the locomotive move and it functioned like rubbish so scrapping then made sense
You weren’t alive when any of them were in service, why would you miss them?
@@bennickss i was saying i wish they still existed back then. currently, i can see why they are scrapped as they had bad brakes. this was 4 years ago, but ok.
1:38 the ship funnels in the backround belong to the Queen Mary
Thanks for the memories
It looks so weird to see the Pullman Coaches in black and white... They look so stoic.
4:37 *ItS ReBeCCA*
Yes but she's rubbish
“Rubbish” said Thomas
@YOrbiTer 12 I totally agree! There's nothing wrong with Rebecca.
Yup
#### REBECA SHE REPLACED EDWARD
Thomas, Rosie and Merlin's basis are seen here in this episode!
As well as Rebecca's
SHUT UP
Very interesting, and well done.
Truly amazing
Can you imagine if steam was steam heavily used in service. I’d love to see that
"If steam was steam"
Hmm.. Yes.. The floor here is made out of floor...
If you wanna return steam to regular service then we'd have to find a way to "modernize" it. Steam locomotives still pull freight trains occasionally though.
@@prestonsvideos6133 And passenger trains
Also if you don't know yet. The ttte series added a new engine called Rebecca and at 4:03 you can see the real Rebecca
At 1:38 you can also see Thomas's friend Rosie in the video, she is based off the USA Dock Tank, which worked at Southampton alongside Thomas and later Salty, who is based off the BR Class 07.
Brett Ambrum no no no that's not Rebecca it's bullied Pacific Battle of Britain class No. 34063 229 squadron as it clearly said in the video
Ok so what's Rebecca then?
A whore who replaced a character that was used for 70+ years.
@@angrya4pacific738 The Bulleid Pacific Battle of Britain class IS Rebecca
I was on a rail tour in the’60’s which was hauled (I think) from Marylebone by Britannia pacific ‘William Shakespeare’, and then double-headed through the docks by two USA‘s.
Great vedio and superb narrator and narration. Plz do a vedio of Southampton docks are as of today would love to see it now. Brgds
1% of people: use this for their history test
99% of people: ThomAS THe taNK eNGinE
I am so sick of people contaminating comment sections on steam videos with thomas, it’s literally unreal
@@bennickss I know, right?
You have history tests..on old trains and ships? Goddamn, I wanna attend that class.
Look like Rosie and Thomas tank engine work at salty dock
And Rebecca
@@florjanbrudar692 but we don’t talk about her
@@florjanbrudar692 we hate her
@@emperorredabilitysfollowin2753 Of course, she replaced Molly (I know, late reply but I just forgot)
@Joshua W56 ur not wrong
brilliant thank you
Great footage. My father was on the QE at this time.
This is the only footage of the real life Thomas the tank engine.
Besides Strasbourg Railroad Footage
@@doctorlivesy7593 that’s not even an E2, that’s just a dummy loco that has to be pushed
@@bennickss They got a Porter (TTTE character) basis converted to look like Thomas, too.
I'm not necessarily here to see Thomas, I'm just here to see the docks at work.
Me too, I’m sick of thomas fans gushing to and from railway videos to scream ‘ERMAHGERD IT TOMIZ’ at basis locos, I genuinely wish that thomas stuck to books and books only
I can understand that, in a way the television show messed up the reputation of the books and real life. While I was introduced to real trains by the show I can't say the show is a perfect representation of real life railways.
@@bennickss yea it is annoying most of the time, I'm a big Thomas fan as well but I also came to see the docks and the great ocean liners, as I'm a fan of them too. Usually you will see those annoying comments from younger Thomas fans, which they don't really care to know about the history of the real locos, which is sad but it's whateves...
Yeah...It is annoying. Besides, in universe of the Railway Series, Thomas never worked at the docks in this video (he went almost immediately to Sodor).
People forget that these engines existed irl too. Real life is disappointing sometimes. Looking into British rail history is quite fun.
Besides, people don't seem to understand that the whole point of trains in the first place was so that humans wouldn't have to work as much by hand and haul heavy loads using machinery they built with time. And this video is an example of people moving goods around. Steam locomotives were literally the iron horses and could get any job done.
Trains still help at harbors today but obviously not steam locomotives.
Totally sick to death of Thomas fans, worst event on any heritage railway.
The E1s surely are wondrous machines.
"Were" is the word
My son remembers that Rosie and Fizz and Thomas and Milo are at Southampton Docks
2:25 Thomas!
And the troublesome trucks
@@WesleyO05 Did you watch SodorProfiles? I think SodorProfiles said it looked like Thomas and the Troublesome Trucks, except faceless.
2:57 He's so fast XD
LMAO. This, engine the LBSCR E2 was a failed engine. They had many problems with steaming, etc. So all the locos were put on shunting duty. (Moving freight cars around, and making trains with them) In shunting you tend to have to go under 10 miles an hour.
The reason Thomas is not scrapped is because he was modified when he came to sodor in 1925 (TV series)
To those who didn't catch on, I was being sarcastic about him being fast.
I ment adventure begins not Railway series/classic.
@@jmtrainz2582 STUNTING duty?
That Bullied engine was awesome looking.
Excellent