It's because the Imperium hate how the Eldar keep doublecrossing them and putting their people in harm's way all the time. The Imperium also regards the Tau's subversion of their colony worlds as an act of aggression. The Eldar regard Humanity as untrustworthy and xenophobic while seeing the Tau as children. The Tau see the Humans and Eldar as having potential to serve under the banner of the Greater good. Problem is, neither race wants to be controlled by the Tau hence the problem.
Wouldn't it be great if T'au, Eldar and the imperium form an alliance (which will never happen) but T'au and the imperium fighting side-by-side is quite interesting to think about
@Lord Admiral Spire Not entirely impossible, thanks to Guilliman and Yvraine, the Eldars are starting to see the wisdom to an alliance or at the very least a ceasefire with Humanity against the common enemy, so yes, they would need to keep seperated for the sake of safety but if a ceasefire can fully be implemented, it's only a matter of time before deeds of heroism and actions on both sides bring about a positive change. The same could apply to the Tau, the mechanicus would LOVE to learn Tau tech and the Earth Caste would relish to understand human tech, there are common grounds that could be found, but it's a process that would take many generations to break the xenophobia (which mind you isn't unwarranted).
@Me Alexander And yet, Eldars for all their blusters are the ones responsible for Slaanesh and their tech is on the same level as the Imperium, although very different in nature. They may live in Utopias, but that was the very reason why they even created Slaanesh, they made their lives too comfortable and lost their ways. The Tau understand human tech, but have no understanding of this "Machine spirit". Remember, 40K isn't just hard science, it's got a lot of fantasy elements to it, one such is the machine spirit, which is in-fact a real thing, this is the kind of spiritual thing that the Tau have no understanding of since their tech is based on hard science only, no magic involved. And their space travel is mediocre at best, they use FTL rather than warp travel. And as for your second point, everyone in 40K are bad, everyone's a dick. Humans, Eldars, Tau (the less dickish ones), Orks, etc. Everyone hates everyone and with good reasons, eldars for the reason I brought up earlier.
@Me Alexander 1. eldar tech is about imperium level. their strength is the webway and soul stones but thats basically the same as making dreadnoughts and gellerfields. they didnt invent it. its relics from their glory days. also theyre more advanced biological wise being more like cats or ballerinas but they have the same emotions and flaws as humans 2. tau are smarter yes but they lack zero knowlege in anything magic or warp related. imperium tech, and to an extension everyone elses tech kinda uses a mix of both tech priestss, religion aside, know how to engeineer stuff to combat warp crap, they just hold it more to heart than tau do. tech wise mechanicum is about the level of tau but everyone is kinda behind necrons it's when it comes to experimental tech, that's when Eldar tech are more reliable.
Damn the narration and background music flow so nicely together. It really expresses the youth and naivety of the tau compared to the rest of the Grim Dark galaxy
+Benjamin Burdige Especially considering the xenophobic nature of the Imperium. That's why the Tau tend to despise them; They're capable of reasoning yet the Imperium have a somewhat irrational fear of aliens, believing they all are the bane of humanity and so need to be exterminated in order to preserve humanity's existence. To some extent you can understand why the Imperium have this attitude due to past experiences with aliens trying to kill them. But the Imperium make the mistake of branding all aliens as bad or 'evil'. There are good aliens and bad aliens, just like there are good humans and bad humans. Tau only want peace and prosperity and if the Imperium tried hard enough to understand, then they could form an alliance that would be almost unstoppable against the vile forces of Chaos, Tyranids, Orks, Dark Eldar and the Necrons. They could bring order to the galaxy. Especially if they had the Eldar on board too.
+Tony The Gamer 1995 Too true. And the Eldar could be a huge help but every time we see it, those two faced Eldar try to help further save their own than help anyone else.
Even some Ethereals seem less assholish then those like Aun'va. Aun'shi has a deep understanding of aliens, and can even join the Farsight Enclaves in some cases.
i want to see the farsight / tau rebellion storyline progress and have the etheareals overthown so the tau will be the true good guys they were meant to be, come to think of it that might be what gw is trying to do with them
this is the same question about an alliance of russia and america. tau:russia imperium:america how the heck can an empire of people that live with respect of eachother and have absolutly no hatered for other races and actualy fighting for peace be an allie with another empire that instead brainwashes its own citizens and kills any other different civilization they meet and having not even an actual final purpose in the entire galaxy other than tring to become biger and empower their gains?
0:01 Chaos (The Taint of Chaos) 1:14 Eldar (Secrets of the Craftworld) 2:27 Imperial Guard (Against the Imperium) 3:45 Necrons (Ancient Technologies) 4:52 Orks (Jungle War) 6:04 Space Marines (Relics of the Enemy)
Everything is Imperium this, Imperium that, can't we have two sentences about the benefits that recovering literal tons of Eldar and Necron technology had on the Tau ourselves?
@@andreaghiretti8189 but they are the Empire with the widest territory. Plus, idk how it is in 40k, but in our univers, very few planets are actually habitable by humans, and the Imperium doesn't have terraforming capabilities.
Jacob Sailer The Imperium of Man doesn't deal with xenos, "suffer not the alien to live" as the maxim goes. It would never consider power sharing or compromise with the likes of Tau. The 'bad blood' has been there since at least the end of the Old Night in the 30th millennium, which makes 11,000 years going strong. The video games doesn't make it obvious for balancing purposes but some factions are tiny compared to others. Humans and Orks are galactic counting billions on millions of worlds, whereas the Eldar have five major craftworlds and the Tau 'Empire' counts for several dozen Septs in Ultima Segmentum. For a sense of scale, the Great Devourer has eaten galaxies. A Tau-Imperium force doesn't change the odds by very much.
Jacob Sailer Well the Tau have plasma technology that DOESN'T have a 1 in 3 chance of exploding in your face. If the Imperium had that kind of technology, they might break some serious face.
Sieg von Blutstein 1 in 6 chance. And that's to balance. Like Warp Spider jumps where one in six is lost to the perils of the warp. > life for thousands of years > train for centuries > 1/6 die every time they jump quality technology m8s
basically take ingame rules ('crunch') out of the equation, if it doesn't exist in the lore, it's not true both the table-top and DOW series have unrealistic balancing
They're mostly inspired by Imperial China IMO more so than communist China. Also Taoism and Confucianism, with some Japanese warrior culture and Indian caste system added to it.
Pah the entirety of the Adeptus Astartes have similaritys to feudal Japan. Like Honor, Sacrifice and the entire palette. What sucks in 40K is the lack of Information and lore for the other Factions. The Imperium of Man for example has dozens of ubfactions. hundreds of special Characters and they almost always win in books, games and canon lore. As much as I like the Tau for their almost "humane" nature I would like to see the Necrons become more as they are currently.
Tau as a whole are better in dealing with Chaos cause they are less susceptible to daemonic corruption. Imagine the mental conditioning of a space marine, only much diluted and on a larger scale. That's a Tau citizen and warrior. Strong concept of honor, mental fortitude, self righteousness and brotherhood bond.
It did actually happen in 40K canon. When the Tau first appeared on Imperial radar, the Imperium declared war on them, seeing them as enemies of the Imperium. There was a brief conflict, that took a few Tau colonsation worlds from them, but they reached a stalemate- the pressure of Hive Fleet Behemoth. Ever since then the Imperial Guard (or at least some companies) have been Tau allies, and they even have a name like the Kroot- Gue'vesa, and you can field Imperials in a Tau army in Apocalypse.
I remembered taking down the tau stronghold with the eldar. Comparing both of the endings, the eldar are really one of the biggest assholes in the galaxy with their treatment of the tau after they won :(
@@superspies32 Losing the vast majority of their people to a Chaos god's zeroth birthday banquet didn't quite temper their arrogance as the 'wise beyond the millenia' race, honestly.
Well O'Kais has the courage and ability to take down all races, including Chaos, Orks and the Imperium of Man. Same as Or'es'Ka in the Kaurava conflict.
From that angle, we are also safe. You see, most of Chaos doesn't think in the long-term like you or me. Only Tzeentch would see the value in conquering us, and he is more concerned with his plots inside the Eye of Terror. The rest live in the spur of the moment, as is the way of Chaos, and almost discout us entirely. They perhaps share my feelings that we're so far away to be of any consequence in their conquest of the Imperium.
@Sangrenegra9 The tau are the equal and opposite to the Necrons. An alliance between the ancient Eldar, and the young Tau. What an totally awsome thought! ^^
+Andy Wilderness It wasn't always that way, but fugly neckbeards love furiously masturbating to their oh-so-edgy grimderp and screech in rage at anything that isn't isn't doom-and-gloom enough. I really, truly like that WH40k isn't afraid to cast a very, very grim setting and run with it, but in recent years especially it's been taken too far. Honestly I prefer the atmosphere of the original loltrader-era 40k, where the sheer hell was also quite often twisted to be humorous as well. You can still find it portrayed this way on 1d4chan though.
I honestly believe that Warhammer 40,000 is the single greatest sci-fi setting ever written...when ANYONE but Games Workshop writes it. Like, have you read the Fantasy Flight Games RPGs - Rogue Trader, Dark Heresy, Black Crusde - all of them paint the universe with considerably more depth and interesting facets. Just seeing how life is like in the Imperium broadens the setting immensely. Personally, I believe that the Imperium of Man is...tragically, doing the best that can be hoped, considering the immense strategic strains placed on it by being so massive, and so encumbered by the cosmology of the setting. Warp travel is too dangerous and FTL communication is so spotty that maintaining their empire at all requires immense sacrifices. Now, the Tau are a very reasonable faction. But they can afford to be reasonable - they don't have a galaxy spanning empire to try and maintain, and they haven't had their A.Is become self aware and seed their technology with programming traps that force dogmatic cargo cult mentalities - not as a moronic religious trapping, but rather as a way to avoid accidentally activating the ancient programming that turns your lasguns into nanofactories that transform your planets into burbling masses of gray goo... I'm just saying, the Men of Iron fucked humanity over in the long run. ...but in my head, the Men of Iron are legendary tales of the T.I.T.A.N.S from Eclipse Phase.
+lordlossize “Enclave” GG It would've been murder though. Tau with reverse engineered Necron AND Eldar tech? Kroot with Ork and Eldar DNA? A Dead Space Marine chapter? That defiantly would've disturbed the status Quo Warhammer loves so much.
***** There are Kompletely Kroot lists out there, where you get Vulture Kroot, who can fly, and Head hunters, who can spit acid. Outside of that, though, you can't get Genetically altered Kroot. And eating Tyranids is outlawed in their society.
Kroot who eat Eldar a lot get psychic powers. They can eat necrons however that had nasty side effects. The kroot do eat space marines and get certain abilities.
I always found the Dark Crusade to depict the Tau in an unnecessarily GRIMDARK way than what they are in lore. Sure, they are rather ruthless. But during their beginnings, the Tau didn't make captured Guardsmen renounce the God-Emperor. They didn't care if they kept their faith, as long as they served under the Greater Good. And the Tau ending made it seem like they were a discount Imperium.
@Colddirector The only faction I would doubt being able to do this is the Tau, there's an official map showing just how small they are compared to everyone else. And to be honest their empire is so small and their warp drives are so slow I'm pretty sure that EVOLUTION would have taken place long before they reached anything important for everyone else.
ALERT, JOKE/MEME INCOMING: "NOOOOO! you can't be optimistic and practical, you have to be grimdark edgy and fight in melee!!" "hehe happy blue men shoot lasers"
You would be surprised at what we can accomplish, gue'la. The heavy defenses we have placed around the Perdus Rift are quite impressive. If an entire traitor legion tried to invade us, they would face a bloody gauntlet to break through. If they did break through, they would be considerably weakened. Our warp-resistant fleets and cadres would finish the rest.
I felt kind of missed about the tau versus chaos ending. i had these 3 groops of kroot carnivore and no matter what happened they always somehow survived even when fire warriors and even the commander i think were getting owned around them. i mean yeah its just a video game but jeez those kroot were badass xD
I agree with you 100%, but both the Imperium and the Tau have their own schedules to keep than to butt heads together constantly. The Tau want to expand, and the Imperium's gotta worry about not getting completely wiped out by Chaos and Tyranids. If the Imperium really did launch a campaign of extermination against the Tau, I have a feeling the Eldar would indirectly step in, with the rumor that the Eldar influenced the Ethereals, which in turn saved the Tau.
The Tau don't do that. Relic definitely got it wrong. GW had never included sterilization as part of the Tau's methods of pacifying a planetary populace before Dark Crusade.
Wow nice music and nice Victory Narrations it really fits and its relaxing good work. May the Emperor see your Benevolance and maybe one day just maybe he shall part take for the greater good... ^^ If not then good luck for not getting Wipe out from the Emperor Wrath lol :P
I see. Do any focus specifically on the Tau or the Eldar, or at least incorporate them largely in the mainstream Imperial Guard/Space Marine vs Chaos books?
@amandarandom89 Not the tau in specific... Their bodies aren't affected, however... They were having a load of trouble understanding the chaos relics and rituals, and the Kroot who ingested chaos marine and heretic flesh, would be affected by horendous mutations and awful side effects that plague the chaos marines. So you understand now? :)
So the Tau did not do anything to the Hellstorm Cannon in Victory Bay? It's kind of weird that they are not interested in the weapon's secrets, both overt and covert (watch the other races' reports if you want to know more).
'Nhowhan ees loyal. Everywhan ees Hereteec.' This proves true. All factions in Warhammer 40000 are at each other's necks, and the destruction they all leave behind their conflicts is tearing everything up. Very chaotic. Cool music though.
"In the Blood Ravens Aun'El Shi'Ores saw what he considered the worst in the Imperium of Man" Selena Agna: "You know nothing, Jon Sn... I mean, Aun'El Shi'Ores!"
There have in fact been many who say the Tau don't fit into the setting for that very reason. And it may be true - most canon material do point towards them as being, well, at least being very much less evil than most other factions, including the Imperium. Then again, their Empire is still small, so any non-evilness they might have doesn't actually make a lot of difference in the setting...
Well, once chaos is gone, necrons will probably just return to their tomb worlds. Tyrannids and Orks are still going to be problems, and the annoying part is they will KEEP being problems so long as even a handful remain; unlike the others, they need no infrastructure to rebuild and recolonize. Gorgutz after all managed to rebuild his entire WAAAGH like 4 times, PERSONALLY.
@BoydTheMilkmanX Hell, if the Imperium even did so much as use sensible battle tactics, and modern, much more efficient tank designs, then they could hold their own pretty well against the forces which assail them. But where's the fun in that?
@BoydTheMilkmanX i think that they could allie and i think they do just in campain they dont go that far and the necrons dark eldar and chaos are allies (all bringers of death)
This why i'm quite on 40k fans club because matt ward his a madman how full hater to peace..... 40k his true image are you'll still dont belivea me go to timeline and the lore of 40k *SPOLIRE ALERT* the old one race are the true villian not a c'tan or necron how like this comment beready to quit from 40K fans club know
Much of the hatred for xenos stems from the Age of Strife when aliens reneged on treaties of non-aggression and enslaved humans when mankind was at its most vulnerable. So I'm curious about this aliens joining the Imperium you mention.
Hello. I was going through my old channel, DungeonCrawlerTim, and found your post. I'm not a Space Marine lover boy. I play Orks. I wasn't saying that one faction is more evil than the other. All factions in the Warhammer 40,000 has their flaws. It's what keeps the fluff interesting. Now, if you'd excuse me. I have a WAAAGH! to prepare. Painting them up right now.
their main goal is not to conquer the galaxy but to achive their goals they must do it. their final goal is to spread peace in the galaxy and also destroy any threats of xeno phobia as they should do.
I wouldn't say that. The Imperial Guard was bogged down on Dal'yth Prime, and their supply lines were constantly getting raided both on the ground and in space. The Guard's bloody attrition tactics weren't working when fighting on a fully mobilized Sept world. They would have been turned back eventually, Tyranids or not.
@BephirArsland Too optimistic. 40K is all about grim-darkness. The company would sort of bankrupt if there was anything but war in the darkness of the future.
Another key element between us and Chaos: Terra. And if Terra falls, then we're all doomed. So we should agree to work together to defeat this greater menace of Chaos...unless you hate working with the "foul" xenos more...
OMG no wai, u be liek so ubrpro 2 tell us dis, lol. Are you kidding me? So basically playing with Space Marines in original DoW multiplayer was noobish as well? God I love such great and insightful commentaries.
In the WH40k setting, humanity is hardly better than the Orcs or the other threats: Fanatical, genocidal, totalitarian. The Tau and Eldar have no reason to trust them, or view them as any less threat, than the Orcs or Chaos or whatever, because in Wh40k, humanity is just as much the bad guys.
if you dont count the gue'vesa (human helpers in tau languadge) witch are humans left behind by the imperium that joined the tau willingly and are absolutly free of the xeno phobia of the rest imperial guards. they also are alote more respected by the tau and the rest auxiluaries of the tau empire and they like wise are actualy greatful to fight for the greater good.
there is 1 tau who has ever been corrupted by chaos, shas'la kais. if you read the book fire warrior youll see. he actually says blood for the blood god
While the Tau ARE skilled at ranged combat and have the Kroot on their side, the forces of Chaos use dark magics that can reek havoc on an enemy AND they can use demons. These 2 factors in my opinion help to bolster the already considerable fighting strength of the super experienced Chaos Space Marines. While the Tau would likely defeat a Chaos Lord like Bale or Carron, Eliphas strikes me as being ultra cunning and would likely make mince meat out of the Tau.
(stone age) by imperium, they was unable to extermiante thems, becouse of warp storm, later ultamarines ( if i remeber well) holded tyrands advance three times from them (ofcourse only defending imperium planets). And second: Tau need to feel some backstabs (like humanity haved) in order to grow up.
he can be corrupted though, if not by chaos.. the tau empire for one isn't that ordered he may have disliked it, or possibly been corrupted by necron technology that was unawakened (by using it with his weaponry when he got separated from the tau empire.
after action is when you control a different faction and hear that another one defeated your enemy? anyway the tau are my favorite race for number some reasons mainly if there is somtheing i like as an army that is the exacly different of raceist and uses othere kind of people that willingly joined them and in the end for me THEY where the once that saved both kronus and the kurava system from the imperium tyrrany,chaos madmen,orks waaagh! (witch i still like),wretched space marines (of witch i hate secondly most),they crazed and useless sisters of battle (number one hate spot.),the eldar(witch less hateable race for the tau but not trustworthy enough.),the necron monstrosities and the DISGUSTING dark eldar. the tau are the only faction in warhammer 40k that i will not acept to be insulted by ANY one.
The one difference is that the Tau accept themselves for who they are. The Necrontyr tried to be something they weren't. By contrast, the Tau understand themselves and accept themselves.
@BoydTheMilkmanX get rid of the Necrons and tyranids, and its hard to imagine orks allying with someone un orky. The Tau and Imperium, and Eldar could be a possible alliance
Couldn't agree more. Eliphas (me) would probably have enough brainpower and cunning to destroy them However, MOST chaos lords (Bale, Charron, Abadon, Crull, etc) are simply too stupid. IN FACT, the only other chaos lord I can think of off the top of my head that has enough cunning to succesffully defeat the TAU would be Sindri Myr. THATS IT.
And the Necrons. And the Tyrannids. And the Orks. The Eldar, Imperium and Tau could ally, undeniably. They're all just too rooted in war to bother trying.
It would be pretty funny if the Tau ended up evolving into a race like the Necrons. Both races use incredibly advanced technology (while the Necrons are way more advanced, the Tau are catching up at a remarkable pace) and neither have much of a Warp presence. The Necrontyr also had short lives, rather like the Tau. Perhaps the Tau are meant to represent what the Necrons could have been had they not been consumed by hatred for the Old Ones or become slaves to the C'Tan.
Is that the actual Tau music? I never sat down and really listened to it before. It sounds like what you'd hear playing in the background of a really racist Chinese buffet.
O'Shova's corruption was not of his own doing. Although it is not well-known, his weapon, the Dawn Blade, is of Necron construction. He valued its power, but he eventually succumbed to its maddening influence. All other Fire Caste Commanders owe all they have to the Greater Good, and will follow it without hesitation.
That is a major possible future there. Even when the Tau have destroyed all of the military bases we have, mankind (Or people of the God Emperor) will have joined the "Greater Good" just to keep the population as it is. Long Live The Greater Good!!!
Oh please..... As if the Tau could vanquish Eliphas and the Word Bearers, the most devout of all of Legions of Chaos! Lord Eliphas is a skilled and cunning warrior whose over 10,000 years old. He was fighting and killing long before there even WAS a Tau civilization.
The problem lies in the fact that the Tau have let the horrible brutality of their universe destroy their good intentions. They neuter humans who have made the mistake of welcoming the Imperium, and tend to be too eager to sacrifice their own forces in the name of the Greater Good. Granted, they are the kindest and most moral of the races, but that's not saying much when this is Warhammer 40000, famous for being overblown and brutal.
The technology of Tau... makes us strong.
It's because the Imperium hate how the Eldar keep doublecrossing them and putting their people in harm's way all the time. The Imperium also regards the Tau's subversion of their colony worlds as an act of aggression.
The Eldar regard Humanity as untrustworthy and xenophobic while seeing the Tau as children.
The Tau see the Humans and Eldar as having potential to serve under the banner of the Greater good. Problem is, neither race wants to be controlled by the Tau hence the problem.
Wouldn't it be great if T'au, Eldar and the imperium form an alliance (which will never happen) but
T'au and the imperium fighting side-by-side is quite interesting to think about
@@homonovus2505 The confirm alliance with Tau is definitely no no, Eldar? ya probably still possible if manly Emperor of Mankind awake
@Lord Admiral Spire Not entirely impossible, thanks to Guilliman and Yvraine, the Eldars are starting to see the wisdom to an alliance or at the very least a ceasefire with Humanity against the common enemy, so yes, they would need to keep seperated for the sake of safety but if a ceasefire can fully be implemented, it's only a matter of time before deeds of heroism and actions on both sides bring about a positive change. The same could apply to the Tau, the mechanicus would LOVE to learn Tau tech and the Earth Caste would relish to understand human tech, there are common grounds that could be found, but it's a process that would take many generations to break the xenophobia (which mind you isn't unwarranted).
@Me Alexander And yet, Eldars for all their blusters are the ones responsible for Slaanesh and their tech is on the same level as the Imperium, although very different in nature. They may live in Utopias, but that was the very reason why they even created Slaanesh, they made their lives too comfortable and lost their ways.
The Tau understand human tech, but have no understanding of this "Machine spirit". Remember, 40K isn't just hard science, it's got a lot of fantasy elements to it, one such is the machine spirit, which is in-fact a real thing, this is the kind of spiritual thing that the Tau have no understanding of since their tech is based on hard science only, no magic involved.
And their space travel is mediocre at best, they use FTL rather than warp travel.
And as for your second point, everyone in 40K are bad, everyone's a dick. Humans, Eldars, Tau (the less dickish ones), Orks, etc. Everyone hates everyone and with good reasons, eldars for the reason I brought up earlier.
@Me Alexander 1. eldar tech is about imperium level. their strength is the webway and soul stones but thats basically the same as making dreadnoughts and gellerfields. they didnt invent it. its relics from their glory days.
also theyre more advanced biological wise being more like cats or ballerinas but they have the same emotions and flaws as humans
2. tau are smarter yes but they lack zero knowlege in anything magic or warp related. imperium tech, and to an extension everyone elses tech kinda uses a mix of both
tech priestss, religion aside, know how to engeineer stuff to combat warp crap, they just hold it more to heart than tau do. tech wise mechanicum is about the level of tau
but everyone is kinda behind necrons
it's when it comes to experimental tech, that's when Eldar tech are more reliable.
I lost my shit at 5:05 when he said "BONE CRACKA."
Damn the narration and background music flow so nicely together.
It really expresses the youth and naivety of the tau compared to the rest of the Grim Dark galaxy
If the Tau empire and Imperium of man could ever forge an alliance, the galaxy's fate would have been forever changed.
+Benjamin Burdige Especially considering the xenophobic nature of the Imperium. That's why the Tau tend to despise them; They're capable of reasoning yet the Imperium have a somewhat irrational fear of aliens, believing they all are the bane of humanity and so need to be exterminated in order to preserve humanity's existence.
To some extent you can understand why the Imperium have this attitude due to past experiences with aliens trying to kill them. But the Imperium make the mistake of branding all aliens as bad or 'evil'. There are good aliens and bad aliens, just like there are good humans and bad humans. Tau only want peace and prosperity and if the Imperium tried hard enough to understand, then they could form an alliance that would be almost unstoppable against the vile forces of Chaos, Tyranids, Orks, Dark Eldar and the Necrons. They could bring order to the galaxy. Especially if they had the Eldar on board too.
+Tony The Gamer 1995 Too true. And the Eldar could be a huge help but every time we see it, those two faced Eldar try to help further save their own than help anyone else.
Even some Ethereals seem less assholish then those like Aun'va. Aun'shi has a deep understanding of aliens, and can even join the Farsight Enclaves in some cases.
i want to see the farsight / tau rebellion storyline progress and have the etheareals overthown so the tau will be the true good guys they were meant to be, come to think of it that might be what gw is trying to do with them
this is the same question about an alliance of russia and america.
tau:russia
imperium:america
how the heck can an empire of people that live with respect of eachother and have absolutly no hatered for other races and actualy fighting for peace be an allie with another empire that instead brainwashes its own citizens and kills any other different civilization they meet and having not even an actual final purpose in the entire galaxy other than tring to become biger and empower their gains?
0:01 Chaos (The Taint of Chaos)
1:14 Eldar (Secrets of the Craftworld)
2:27 Imperial Guard (Against the Imperium)
3:45 Necrons (Ancient Technologies)
4:52 Orks (Jungle War)
6:04 Space Marines (Relics of the Enemy)
Everything is Imperium this, Imperium that, can't we have two sentences about the benefits that recovering literal tons of Eldar and Necron technology had on the Tau ourselves?
To be fair the imperium are technically the main focus of warhammer 40k.
The Imperium cover like 70-80% of the galaxy. Not talking about it is like talking about world's economy without saying "USA" or "China"
@@Sir_Bucket considering they hold milions of planets on a galaxy with bilions of them, the imperium dosen't even hold 1% of it.
@@andreaghiretti8189 but they are the Empire with the widest territory. Plus, idk how it is in 40k, but in our univers, very few planets are actually habitable by humans, and the Imperium doesn't have terraforming capabilities.
@@Sir_Bucket The Imperium can Terraform but it takes like 700 years to make the world just barely habitable for humans
Jacob Sailer
The Imperium of Man doesn't deal with xenos, "suffer not the alien to live" as the maxim goes. It would never consider power sharing or compromise with the likes of Tau. The 'bad blood' has been there since at least the end of the Old Night in the 30th millennium, which makes 11,000 years going strong.
The video games doesn't make it obvious for balancing purposes but some factions are tiny compared to others. Humans and Orks are galactic counting billions on millions of worlds, whereas the Eldar have five major craftworlds and the Tau 'Empire' counts for several dozen Septs in Ultima Segmentum. For a sense of scale, the Great Devourer has eaten galaxies. A Tau-Imperium force doesn't change the odds by very much.
Well, it was worth a try.
Jacob Sailer Well the Tau have plasma technology that DOESN'T have a 1 in 3 chance of exploding in your face. If the Imperium had that kind of technology, they might break some serious face.
Sieg von Blutstein
1 in 6 and that's because they don't push their guns to the limit resulting in a weaker weapon.
Sieg von Blutstein 1 in 6 chance.
And that's to balance. Like Warp Spider jumps where one in six is lost to the perils of the warp.
> life for thousands of years
> train for centuries
> 1/6 die every time they jump
quality technology m8s
basically take ingame rules ('crunch') out of the equation, if it doesn't exist in the lore, it's not true
both the table-top and DOW series have unrealistic balancing
I wonder if Tau Empire was inspired by ancient chinese and feudal japan
Matsuyama Hiro The Tau are a combination of Communist China and Feudal Japan with a good helping of Mecha Anime thrown in for good measure.
And Indian Caste System also thrown in.
They're mostly inspired by Imperial China IMO more so than communist China. Also Taoism and Confucianism, with some Japanese warrior culture and Indian caste system added to it.
Pah the entirety of the Adeptus Astartes have similaritys to feudal Japan. Like Honor, Sacrifice and the entire palette.
What sucks in 40K is the lack of Information and lore for the other Factions. The Imperium of Man for example has dozens of ubfactions. hundreds of special Characters and they almost always win in books, games and canon lore. As much as I like the Tau for their almost "humane" nature I would like to see the Necrons become more as they are currently.
Some of the tau vehicles are also somewhat similar to covenant vehicles from Halo
Victory for the Greater Good! Thanks for sharing this with us.
When the tau is better at containing and destroying warp corruption than the inquisition
Tau as a whole are better in dealing with Chaos cause they are less susceptible to daemonic corruption. Imagine the mental conditioning of a space marine, only much diluted and on a larger scale. That's a Tau citizen and warrior. Strong concept of honor, mental fortitude, self righteousness and brotherhood bond.
@@giacomoromano8842that, and they r almost insignificant in warp presence
It did actually happen in 40K canon. When the Tau first appeared on Imperial radar, the Imperium declared war on them, seeing them as enemies of the Imperium. There was a brief conflict, that took a few Tau colonsation worlds from them, but they reached a stalemate- the pressure of Hive Fleet Behemoth. Ever since then the Imperial Guard (or at least some companies) have been Tau allies, and they even have a name like the Kroot- Gue'vesa, and you can field Imperials in a Tau army in Apocalypse.
Tau best race for survival of the warhammer 40k universe
I remembered taking down the tau stronghold with the eldar. Comparing both of the endings, the eldar are really one of the biggest assholes in the galaxy with their treatment of the tau after they won :(
what do they say?
@@hggs4466 they abandoned the city, let humans revenged on Tau citizen and later turned Kronos into anarchy
@@superspies32 Losing the vast majority of their people to a Chaos god's zeroth birthday banquet didn't quite temper their arrogance as the 'wise beyond the millenia' race, honestly.
Well O'Kais has the courage and ability to take down all races, including Chaos, Orks and the Imperium of Man. Same as Or'es'Ka in the Kaurava conflict.
From that angle, we are also safe. You see, most of Chaos doesn't think in the long-term like you or me. Only Tzeentch would see the value in conquering us, and he is more concerned with his plots inside the Eye of Terror. The rest live in the spur of the moment, as is the way of Chaos, and almost discout us entirely. They perhaps share my feelings that we're so far away to be of any consequence in their conquest of the Imperium.
@Sangrenegra9 The tau are the equal and opposite to the Necrons. An alliance between the ancient Eldar, and the young Tau. What an totally awsome thought! ^^
I love the Tau so fucking much. One of the only reasonable factions
The only one actually. Second would be Eldar, but unlike Tau, I wouldn't call them "good" at all.
+Andy Wilderness It wasn't always that way, but fugly neckbeards love furiously masturbating to their oh-so-edgy grimderp and screech in rage at anything that isn't isn't doom-and-gloom enough. I really, truly like that WH40k isn't afraid to cast a very, very grim setting and run with it, but in recent years especially it's been taken too far. Honestly I prefer the atmosphere of the original loltrader-era 40k, where the sheer hell was also quite often twisted to be humorous as well. You can still find it portrayed this way on 1d4chan though.
I honestly believe that Warhammer 40,000 is the single greatest sci-fi setting ever written...when ANYONE but Games Workshop writes it. Like, have you read the Fantasy Flight Games RPGs - Rogue Trader, Dark Heresy, Black Crusde - all of them paint the universe with considerably more depth and interesting facets. Just seeing how life is like in the Imperium broadens the setting immensely.
Personally, I believe that the Imperium of Man is...tragically, doing the best that can be hoped, considering the immense strategic strains placed on it by being so massive, and so encumbered by the cosmology of the setting. Warp travel is too dangerous and FTL communication is so spotty that maintaining their empire at all requires immense sacrifices.
Now, the Tau are a very reasonable faction. But they can afford to be reasonable - they don't have a galaxy spanning empire to try and maintain, and they haven't had their A.Is become self aware and seed their technology with programming traps that force dogmatic cargo cult mentalities - not as a moronic religious trapping, but rather as a way to avoid accidentally activating the ancient programming that turns your lasguns into nanofactories that transform your planets into burbling masses of gray goo...
I'm just saying, the Men of Iron fucked humanity over in the long run.
...but in my head, the Men of Iron are legendary tales of the T.I.T.A.N.S from Eclipse Phase.
HERETIC *BLAM*
Yeah, I like the races added beyond the main game. Rak'gol, the Stryix or whatever.
i so wanted this to be canon
+lordlossize “Enclave” GG It would've been murder though. Tau with reverse engineered Necron AND Eldar tech? Kroot with Ork and Eldar DNA? A Dead Space Marine chapter? That defiantly would've disturbed the status Quo Warhammer loves so much.
***** There are Kompletely Kroot lists out there, where you get Vulture Kroot, who can fly, and Head hunters, who can spit acid. Outside of that, though, you can't get Genetically altered Kroot. And eating Tyranids is outlawed in their society.
Kroot who eat Eldar a lot get psychic powers. They can eat necrons however that had nasty side effects. The kroot do eat space marines and get certain abilities.
toomanyaccounts Well, when your dumb enough to eat metal, you kind of deserve what happens to you.
when your dumb enough to eat metal, you kind of deserve what happens to you.
KEK
I always found the Dark Crusade to depict the Tau in an unnecessarily GRIMDARK way than what they are in lore.
Sure, they are rather ruthless. But during their beginnings, the Tau didn't make captured Guardsmen renounce the God-Emperor. They didn't care if they kept their faith, as long as they served under the Greater Good. And the Tau ending made it seem like they were a discount Imperium.
To be fair, the narrator of these cutscenes is an Imperial; he's probably laying on the anti-Xeno propaganda as thick as possible.
@Colddirector The only faction I would doubt being able to do this is the Tau, there's an official map showing just how small they are compared to everyone else. And to be honest their empire is so small and their warp drives are so slow I'm pretty sure that EVOLUTION would have taken place long before they reached anything important for everyone else.
ALERT, JOKE/MEME INCOMING:
"NOOOOO! you can't be optimistic and practical, you have to be grimdark edgy and fight in melee!!"
"hehe happy blue men shoot lasers"
Warhammer 40k community in a nutshell
Warhammer 40k community in a nutshell
The Tau are unironically the only non-cringy Order race in Warhammer 40K.
@@kolsveinnskraevolding You right
That was practically invented by the grim dark community
You would be surprised at what we can accomplish, gue'la. The heavy defenses we have placed around the Perdus Rift are quite impressive. If an entire traitor legion tried to invade us, they would face a bloody gauntlet to break through. If they did break through, they would be considerably weakened. Our warp-resistant fleets and cadres would finish the rest.
this is great! Can you do this for the Eldar?
I felt kind of missed about the tau versus chaos ending. i had these 3 groops of kroot carnivore and no matter what happened they always somehow survived even when fire warriors and even the commander i think were getting owned around them. i mean yeah its just a video game but jeez those kroot were badass xD
I agree with you 100%, but both the Imperium and the Tau have their own schedules to keep than to butt heads together constantly. The Tau want to expand, and the Imperium's gotta worry about not getting completely wiped out by Chaos and Tyranids. If the Imperium really did launch a campaign of extermination against the Tau, I have a feeling the Eldar would indirectly step in, with the rumor that the Eldar influenced the Ethereals, which in turn saved the Tau.
The Tau must be the ONLY race in Warhammer that take prisoners without the intention of killing them later.
Kenisi1 chaos takes prisoners and turns them in heretics to infiltrate the Imperium
Sad the tau had to betray some of thier Kroot Allies, but there isn't that many fates worse than becoming an agent of chaos...
That's great. I like all these vids. Great work man!!
The Tau don't do that. Relic definitely got it wrong. GW had never included sterilization as part of the Tau's methods of pacifying a planetary populace before Dark Crusade.
Wow nice music and nice Victory Narrations it really fits and its relaxing good work.
May the Emperor see your Benevolance and maybe one day just maybe he shall part take for the greater good... ^^
If not then good luck for not getting Wipe out from the Emperor Wrath lol :P
Interesting thing, in earlier versions of WH40K, wraithbone was a material exotic even to the Eldar. Now pretty much all of their stuff is made of it.
I see. Do any focus specifically on the Tau or the Eldar, or at least incorporate them largely in the mainstream Imperial Guard/Space Marine vs Chaos books?
1:00 I love the happy music whilst they're describing massacring their own troops.
@amandarandom89 Not the tau in specific... Their bodies aren't affected, however... They were having a load of trouble understanding the chaos relics and rituals, and the Kroot who ingested chaos marine and heretic flesh, would be affected by horendous mutations and awful side effects that plague the chaos marines. So you understand now? :)
So the Tau did not do anything to the Hellstorm Cannon in Victory Bay? It's kind of weird that they are not interested in the weapon's secrets, both overt and covert (watch the other races' reports if you want to know more).
'Nhowhan ees loyal. Everywhan ees Hereteec.'
This proves true. All factions in Warhammer 40000 are at each other's necks, and the destruction they all leave behind their conflicts is tearing everything up. Very chaotic.
Cool music though.
Can you do one for the Imperial Guard?Great video by the way.
All races will get the same treatment.
"In the Blood Ravens Aun'El Shi'Ores saw what he considered the worst in the Imperium of Man"
Selena Agna: "You know nothing, Jon Sn... I mean, Aun'El Shi'Ores!"
A wise and powerful man said once "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."
And now, O'Kais is slowly getting insane in the canon. Chaos related, maybe ? :)
There have in fact been many who say the Tau don't fit into the setting for that very reason. And it may be true - most canon material do point towards them as being, well, at least being very much less evil than most other factions, including the Imperium. Then again, their Empire is still small, so any non-evilness they might have doesn't actually make a lot of difference in the setting...
For the greather good!! in Tau we are strong!!
Well, once chaos is gone, necrons will probably just return to their tomb worlds. Tyrannids and Orks are still going to be problems, and the annoying part is they will KEEP being problems so long as even a handful remain; unlike the others, they need no infrastructure to rebuild and recolonize. Gorgutz after all managed to rebuild his entire WAAAGH like 4 times, PERSONALLY.
@BoydTheMilkmanX Hell, if the Imperium even did so much as use sensible battle tactics, and modern, much more efficient tank designs, then they could hold their own pretty well against the forces which assail them.
But where's the fun in that?
@BoydTheMilkmanX i think that they could allie and i think they do just in campain they dont go that far and the necrons dark eldar and chaos are allies (all bringers of death)
Yep.
This why i'm quite on 40k fans club because matt ward his a madman how full hater to peace..... 40k his true image are you'll still dont belivea me go to timeline and the lore of 40k
*SPOLIRE ALERT*
the old one race are the true villian not a c'tan or necron
how like this comment beready to quit from 40K fans club know
commanderyammarkkasrkin MV wat
Does anyone have a link to the song?
Much of the hatred for xenos stems from the Age of Strife when aliens reneged on treaties of non-aggression and enslaved humans when mankind was at its most vulnerable. So I'm curious about this aliens joining the Imperium you mention.
Hello. I was going through my old channel, DungeonCrawlerTim, and found your post. I'm not a Space Marine lover boy. I play Orks. I wasn't saying that one faction is more evil than the other. All factions in the Warhammer 40,000 has their flaws. It's what keeps the fluff interesting. Now, if you'd excuse me. I have a WAAAGH! to prepare. Painting them up right now.
The Tau believe in their manifest destiny across the universe. They won't stop until they control all of the galaxy
their main goal is not to conquer the galaxy but to achive their goals they must do it.
their final goal is to spread peace in the galaxy and also destroy any threats of xeno phobia as they should do.
Manifest Destiny, USA in space. Gotta liberate the oppressed citizens of the Imperium!
Well, a few entrenched Broadsides fill the roles of Tau turrets very well.
I wouldn't say that. The Imperial Guard was bogged down on Dal'yth Prime, and their supply lines were constantly getting raided both on the ground and in space. The Guard's bloody attrition tactics weren't working when fighting on a fully mobilized Sept world.
They would have been turned back eventually, Tyranids or not.
Even if they turn you sterile???
@DungeonCrawlerTim You have to take most of it with a grain of salt since 90% of the 40k fluff is written from the perspective of the Imperium.
@BephirArsland
Too optimistic. 40K is all about grim-darkness. The company would sort of bankrupt if there was anything but war in the darkness of the future.
Another key element between us and Chaos: Terra. And if Terra falls, then we're all doomed. So we should agree to work together to defeat this greater menace of Chaos...unless you hate working with the "foul" xenos more...
perfect music for this report!
6:46
*Orson Wells has left the chat*
Ahh, I have hurd this already in the game. I purged Kronus from all occupants and added Kronus to the Third Sphere. Glory to Tau and for Greater Good!
Yes, his name is Scriba Marcus Orestes.
OMG no wai, u be liek so ubrpro 2 tell us dis, lol.
Are you kidding me? So basically playing with Space Marines in original DoW multiplayer was noobish as well? God I love such great and insightful commentaries.
Bow before the greater good.
Ultramarines, you will pay for what you did to Dolumar IV! Except for your captain Ardias, he's cool because he helped the tau.
Ahh, Fire Warrior! Childhood game there. Wasn't that Ardias's orders to call an Exterminatus to prevent Chaos taint spreading the galaxy?
In the WH40k setting, humanity is hardly better than the Orcs or the other threats: Fanatical, genocidal, totalitarian. The Tau and Eldar have no reason to trust them, or view them as any less threat, than the Orcs or Chaos or whatever, because in Wh40k, humanity is just as much the bad guys.
if you dont count the gue'vesa (human helpers in tau languadge) witch are humans left behind by the imperium that joined the tau willingly and are absolutly free of the xeno phobia of the rest imperial guards.
they also are alote more respected by the tau and the rest auxiluaries of the tau empire and they like wise are actualy greatful to fight for the greater good.
@@fotppd1475 yeah. FOR THE GREATER GOOD
there is 1 tau who has ever been corrupted by chaos, shas'la kais. if you read the book fire warrior youll see. he actually says blood for the blood god
While the Tau ARE skilled at ranged combat and have the Kroot on their side, the forces of Chaos use dark magics that can reek havoc on an enemy AND they can use demons. These 2 factors in my opinion help to bolster the already considerable fighting strength of the super experienced Chaos Space Marines.
While the Tau would likely defeat a Chaos Lord like Bale or Carron, Eliphas strikes me as being ultra cunning and would likely make mince meat out of the Tau.
The Greater good Rules!!
P.S Tau don't respond to the warp. Thats why Tau don't turn evil when they come into contact with warp energies.
i love the ultramarien books horus herasyand my fave 1 ever grey knights
For the Greater Good!!!!!
the tau have been said to be willing, but it would take someone that the ordo xenos and ordo hereticus owe alot for the imperium to follow through.
yes the humans were former imperial guardsman
(stone age) by imperium, they was unable to extermiante thems, becouse of warp storm, later ultamarines ( if i remeber well) holded tyrands advance three times from them (ofcourse only defending imperium planets). And second: Tau need to feel some backstabs (like humanity haved) in order to grow up.
he can be corrupted though, if not by chaos.. the tau empire for one isn't that ordered he may have disliked it, or possibly been corrupted by necron technology that was unawakened (by using it with his weaponry when he got separated from the tau empire.
Tau must be playable at the upcoming MMO!
after action is when you control a different faction and hear that another one defeated your enemy?
anyway the tau are my favorite race for number some reasons mainly if there is somtheing i like as an army that is the exacly different of raceist and uses othere kind of people that willingly joined them and in the end for me THEY where the once that saved both kronus and the kurava system from the imperium tyrrany,chaos madmen,orks waaagh! (witch i still like),wretched space marines (of witch i hate secondly most),they crazed and useless sisters of battle (number one hate spot.),the eldar(witch less hateable race for the tau but not trustworthy enough.),the necron monstrosities and the DISGUSTING dark eldar.
the tau are the only faction in warhammer 40k that i will not acept to be insulted by ANY one.
I'm with you man. The Tau are the only sane people in 40k. Also they got mechs with Tau waifus which is awesome! :D
Tau is the most Reddit faction of the setting and if this comment doesn't prove it, then I don't know what will
The one difference is that the Tau accept themselves for who they are. The Necrontyr tried to be something they weren't. By contrast, the Tau understand themselves and accept themselves.
Platypus5 I know this is very old, but that is a very nuanced look at the Tau, especially given their similarities to the Old Necrontyr.
Perhaps, but a short and painful life, ridden by radiation and cancer is not desirable
The Necrons wanted to escape constant death from radiation poisoning. Lmao "tried to be something they weren't" what, alive?
FOR THE GREATER GOOD!!
GO AWESOME KASRKIN SQUAD!!!
For the Tau, death comes in shadows.
@BoydTheMilkmanX get rid of the Necrons and tyranids, and its hard to imagine orks allying with someone un orky. The Tau and Imperium, and Eldar could be a possible alliance
@BephirArsland O'Kais and Taldeer maybe. Gorgoutzz no way, he'd fight on his own.
Couldn't agree more.
Eliphas (me) would probably have enough brainpower and cunning to destroy them
However, MOST chaos lords (Bale, Charron, Abadon, Crull, etc) are simply too stupid. IN FACT, the only other chaos lord I can think of off the top of my head that has enough cunning to succesffully defeat the TAU would be Sindri Myr. THATS IT.
And the Necrons. And the Tyrannids. And the Orks.
The Eldar, Imperium and Tau could ally, undeniably. They're all just too rooted in war to bother trying.
Guillimans coalition?
Yes.
It would be pretty funny if the Tau ended up evolving into a race like the Necrons.
Both races use incredibly advanced technology (while the Necrons are way more advanced, the Tau are catching up at a remarkable pace) and neither have much of a Warp presence. The Necrontyr also had short lives, rather like the Tau.
Perhaps the Tau are meant to represent what the Necrons could have been had they not been consumed by hatred for the Old Ones or become slaves to the C'Tan.
Is that the actual Tau music? I never sat down and really listened to it before. It sounds like what you'd hear playing in the background of a really racist Chinese buffet.
It's an anime soundtrack, so...no.
@@dsch0 link?
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oops, this was supposed to be a reply to an earlier post about how the Tau
Why would Tau be affected by the Warp taint, seeing how the Tau are barely present in the warp? That makes little sense; Tau and Warp don't mix.
O'Shova's corruption was not of his own doing. Although it is not well-known, his weapon, the Dawn Blade, is of Necron construction. He valued its power, but he eventually succumbed to its maddening influence. All other Fire Caste Commanders owe all they have to the Greater Good, and will follow it without hesitation.
That is a major possible future there. Even when the Tau have destroyed all of the military bases we have, mankind (Or people of the God Emperor) will have joined the "Greater Good" just to keep the population as it is.
Long Live The Greater Good!!!
Oh please.....
As if the Tau could vanquish Eliphas and the Word Bearers, the most devout of all of Legions of Chaos!
Lord Eliphas is a skilled and cunning warrior whose over 10,000 years old. He was fighting and killing long before there even WAS a Tau civilization.
Are matt ward are madman or what
The problem lies in the fact that the Tau have let the horrible brutality of their universe destroy their good intentions. They neuter humans who have made the mistake of welcoming the Imperium, and tend to be too eager to sacrifice their own forces in the name of the Greater Good. Granted, they are the kindest and most moral of the races, but that's not saying much when this is Warhammer 40000, famous for being overblown and brutal.
The TAU deseved this planet.Cant the imperium and tau be happy together.
I like all races of W40k in some way. Right now I like Necrons slightly more than others...
@BoydTheMilkmanX I agree with the alliance idea.
O`Kais, Taldeer and Gorgoutzz... i wonder if they cloud be allies
Who knows? Humanity may actually have to join the Tau Empire in order to survive!
It will.