@@hassanwaheed8539 exactly. his action might be wrong. and he might be one of the worst decision maker in TO and full on impulse. but his intention had always been to protect his family no matter how twisted he was.
I really like this scene. Seeing Hope getting completely manhandled like that is really good because it establishes she isn't invincible, which means she has to progress, and it really sells out the Gods's threat and makes them stand out.
i fully agree this is what they should have done last season they should have killed malivore first season and went straight to the gods they are the new originals and i love it reminds me a little of the old tvd days when the original family first woke up
*not invincible BUT capable. not saying everybody doesn’t have a weakness, but to get beaten to a pulp with no retaliation from hope’s side was a huge contradiction to what they were hyping hope up to be*
@@ItsNicckster this is the samething that has happened each time a big new baddie comes along like inadu, dhalia, arcadius and when the originals first appeared in tvd the good guys get their ass whooped badly and dont do any damage and then they come together stronger next time it doesnt matter what hope would have done she still would have lost
@@Igivegdparent even when the odds were against hope, it would’ve still been better to see her stand her ground more rather than taking the obvious outcome of “immediately losing against a stronger being.”
@@Igivegdparent *i’m not dismissing the strength and capabilities of a god, but seeing hope’s fighting style throughout the season proves she’s capable of holding her own WAY more than she did here. yeah it’s good to have a challenging opponent, but to not make an effort at all to win?*
@@ItsNicckster she did make an effort i dont know if you noticed but tribid hope with humanity relies more on her magick and no humanity hope relies on her speed and strength or basically brutality but we already know that didnt really work on jen who is weaker than her father she is probably trying to test and see how far his durability goes
To everyone complaining that Hope was beaten too easily, think about this: would you REALLY have wanted to see Hope be evenly matched and trading blows with a frickin’ GOD?!?! Wouldn’t that have cut out ALL the tension if he wasn’t an actual threat to her? This entire season (and the past 3 ones as well) we’ve seen Hope absolutely obliterate all of her opponents. It’s nice to see her come up against someone she actually needs to use her wits against and not just her powers. Keen to see how they beat Ken.
Yea I don't think thier mad at her being beaten. They are mad the writers are making them wait to see her and the god really fight and probably that she used a fireball literally 1 fire ball when we know she can use more powerful magic!!! She didn't even try cause she was trying to keep everyone safe if she was using her power to really hurt the god for real I'm sure the sky would turn red, glass would shatter and fires would brake out I'm sure the school, forest and town would be completely distorted from them fighting.
Except she beat Malivore, who beat the God's. So, yeah, she should've been beating his ass The writing and retconning of the TVD universe has been alot and terrible. If y'all are fans of this series, you would be complaining about this fight not being the least bit even
@@anthonyj5416 except magic doesn't work against gods. So she would have to use her vampire/werewolf powers only which I don't think are a match for a god. It seems like the gods can use their powers against her but she can't use her magic against them
@@calsh14 I don't think the gods even tried to fight Malivore. They just ran into hiding after hearing about a creature consuming magical beings. Unless I missed something
So in your genius brain... Where does magic come from? And if magic exists, is it so unfathomable to think that something outside of vampire witches and werewolves exist?
@@nonamenoname4641 It was stated in both The Vampire Diaries and The Originals that witches are Natures' servants. So it was very presumed that magic came from nature, or at least the manifestation of it. Gods were not originally included. Generally putting gods into the picture wasn't a bad thing. It's all about the supernatural. But the way the producers portrayed the gods in Legacies was horrible.
“Is that name supposed to mean something to me,” Oh Lord Zeus......you really don’t want to ask that question. This is the family that defies everything and everyone.
It seems like hope didn’t really plan to fight him at all she just wanted to distract him and lizzy can steal gods power. She said it herself it would be interesting in the next episode. I do really want to know what lizzy can do with the power she absorbed from Ken.
I think so too. We did not really get a plan on what they were planning. Also I think she wanted to be in a coma so to get something and Landon from limbo
Such a great episode. Hope's finally back with the squad. And she had her first fight back with Lizzie. I was so worried that Lizzie would die. Glad she's ok❤️
I knew Lizzie obvs wouldn’t die. She’s a heretic and it’s not like she got stabbed by a wooden stake. She got stabbed by a metal pole and knocked out. She would obviously come back
They need lizzie alive so she can become the antigod to kill ken but in order for her to become the antigod she need a god to give her all their powers.
@@lucasnugent3183 okay you're clearly missing the point a lot of people are upset they weren't upset that hope lost they were upset that hope didn't fight back she didn't put up a fight we know she wasn't going to win but it wasn't about winning it was about trying to put up a fight
Honestly I like that they didn’t shy away from Hope getting beat down by Ken. Yes irl she is a small woman and he is a big guy but in the world of Legacies, she is the almighty tribrid and he is a god that doesn’t care what gender he’s fighting as long as it’s someone in his way.
but when he said “they send a LITTLE GIRL to challenge a God” just because she looked small and he was a big man (as if he wasn’t standing in front of a school for SUPERNATURAL creatures) that cringed me.
@@jasminelauri7702 if im infinite more powerfull everyone is a little boy or girl... deprogram yourself from your dumb echochamber feminism and your life will be better believe me.
@@jasminelauri7702 I think it’s because as a God he’s thousands and thousands of years old, and the students at The Salvatore School are barely adults. (Like Hope’s only 18/19) so he sees them as a joke as just ‘kids’ trying to beat a God.
The reason I think she didn't put up a decent fight is because deep inside her mind, she thinks she deserves this. After all she had done when her humanity was off, she didn't have the strength to fight back, surrender and let go.
@@camgeorge6222 it's not that. Hope didn't even have a will to fight back it seemed like she wanted to die so she doesn't have to outlive all the people she loves.
I don’t know why people are upset Hope lost. I know she’s the all powerful tribrid, but this is a GOD. In every mythology, not to mention every 📺 shows, gods are essentially all powerful. Besides, they’ve been hyping Ken up to be far more powerful than Hope. Frankly, i’m surprised she’s still alive.
we are upset because hope was built up to be this powerful creature on the originals that had everyone scared and she was so powerful on the originals but i legacies that is her show and was supposed to be about her and the twins and the time we finally see tribrid hope they downplay her and have a man overpower her like we watched her grow up and we were going to see how powerful she truly is and why everyone was scared of her like legacies is a joke and keep downplaying hope and how powerful she truly is like why y’all so possess that were upset at this childish show that clearly don’t care about women
@@hopeandreamikaelson5985 when tf did this become about men and women 😭🤦🏽♂️he’s Zeus do you really think a fuckin vampire,witch werewolf is going to beat the God ZEUS💀
@@hopeandreamikaelson5985 The fuck did this happen to be about gender 😂. She’s fighting a mythological God of course a tribrid is nothing in face of a god.
@@hopeandreamikaelson5985 hope is not downplayed especially in strength emotional stability she has so much control this a god for fuck sakes he even said it took him a very long time to control his power this has nothing to do with representation or gender roles between men and women hope is an original tribrid she’s not a god but her existence is something that people tried to fix by killing her gods were worshiped and adored hope was hated and not to be rifled with HE IS ZUES WTF ARE SOME OF YOU TALKING ABOUT HOPE BEING DOWNPLAYED HOPE CANT WIN THIS FIGHT NOT ALONE
I honestly don’t think the gods know what hope is because he asked “Why won’t you die” Ken probably thinks hope is just a witch and not knowing she’s a tribrid
Well vampires were pretty new and rare in his time they have only been around for 1000 yrs tops. The gods were put to sleep in like mabye a 100yrs or so later.
@@camgeorge6222 Even if he knew everything there is about vampires. Hope is still something new. Even if he tried staking Hope. She wouldn't die because he wouldn't have the right stake to kill her with. Nore would it know the right weapo. Unless someonetells him. I don't know how she would survive decapitation. Apparently not even that could kill an original. So why Hope? Vampire would have been down faster or killed. Ken did throw a lightening bolt at Hope. We don't know if any other vampires could have served that. Normal vampires can be killed so easily. Not just by a wooden stake. Nothing but a red oak stake can kill Hope and if there's any left. There's probably only one. I can wait till Hope shows these gods her true power. What she's truly capable of.
@@ericasharp1872 no originals has ever being in an issue where they were ripped to pieces or decapitated . No evidence or claims have ever been made of them survive such things . They immortality is all talk no show . Especially since they were the strongest monsters around for 1000 yrs. Not many could say they were strong enough to subdue and decapitate them especially since the writers tried to stay away from such things.
I'd love to see more of Lizzie and Ken relationship's develop : regarding their magic. I think it would be interesting to watch if they were linked due to the attemped siphon. Lizzie trying to tap into her magic more since becoming an heretic. A story could be born from there. ;)
It shows Lizzie gotta improve her siphoning, it’s now more than just putting her hand on someone and pulling basically. She’s gotta find things to aid it or enhance it. Makes siphoning gain a category to improve. Seems easy but with this it’s gets way harder
I like that she doesn’t win this one but I feel like it would’ve been a little bit more entertaining had she shown full tribrid powers in the beginning and then he be surprised and then within a second he starts winning
@@Daria-uq4rl that would be clever he’ll think she’s a normal witch and hope will maybe hit him with her powers later on to surprise him yk never let them know your next move
if you take witchcraft off the playing field Hope is nothing but a Hybrid, what exactly did yall expect? Magic doesn’t work against them and that’s Hope only element of surprise in battle. So she can’t show “full tribrid powers” if she can’t USE all of her powers.
@@thevampirediariesuniverse.7380 tbh i feel as it doesn’t matter if the magic doesn’t work she’s a original hybrid , witch & vampire so ik for a fact she would’ve done damage to ken , Ben is a god & hope snapped his neck . the god has been sleep but he only got powerful bc of the way jen talked abt their father , when you believe in him he gains his powers , when your not afraid of him it makes him weak it’s all logical everyone is scared of this big bad god coming down to destroy , but no one’s realizing is all you have to do is be like “ man idc abt that god , he can suck a bleep “ his powers boom vanish. i believe hope with her humanity had her scared & she was alr scared for her friends bc she knew they were gonna try to help fight & dude would’ve literally ended the whole school with one lighting strike . Hope should’ve turned that humanity off just for that second & showed him who klaus mikaelsons daughter is even tho she wouldn’t have won but she could’ve had him sore or some 😂😂
@@Daria-uq4rl that is smart, She knew she’d lose so she wasn’t gonna expose herself at all. She needs the element of surprise, strategy, improvement, and obviously more help than she’s willing to take. She can’t just our everyone to sleep to protect them everytime. Eventually she’s gonna have to accept their help
Yeah I agree. It’s always Klaus this Klaus that. “What if she’s more like her father” or “I am my fathers daughter.” Hayley was an AMAZING woman and a fierce protector of a mom who died doing what she always did: protect her daughter. The only one to mention Hayley in a good way is my girl Freya but she always comes in clutch so I wasn’t surprised
Tbh I thought they would they would explore Hope being guilty about playing a small part in Hayley’s death even though she obviously didn’t mean to … and also, Hayley was the one spent more time with Hope when Klaus didn’t see her for many years. If anything, Hope should have been just as close to Hayley. It literally makes no sense that Hope only mentions and acknowledges Klaus as her parent. In fact I think the only time Hope mentioned Hayley was in season 2 when she told Alaric that she is Klaus and Hayley’s daughter???
If you think about now when the originals use to say they were the most powerful beings on earth and looking at this it kinda of makes you want to laugh
well they werent wrong hahaha at the time the gods were locked away besides jen i still wish they shown more history on the gods and i also wonder how the ancestors or any of the elder witch tribes or bennets never knew the gods existed?
I don’t really like how now the gods are just real and all the stupid fairy tale creatures I think it’s ruined a lot of the aesthetic of the world, especially when your used to TVD and Originals. Just my opinion I just can’t watch this show at all
@@CosmicStench_ I agree 💯 they’ve spent 8 seasons of TVD and 5 seasons of TO telling stories that featured just vampires, werewolves, witches, hybrids, travelers, sirens, heretics, supernatural hunters, Cade, the Hollow, Silas, and all that. Now all of a sudden when Hope gets her spin-off….. all these other magical / mythological creatures just start coming out of the woodwork??…..where the hell were dragons and gargoyles, evil killing unicorns, and beings like Malivore when the Originals roamed the earth for a thousand years, Katherine for 500 years, and Stefan and Damon for 160-something years? You mean to tell me these other creatures have existed this WHOLE time and not once have they encountered these random ass beasts and monsters and gods? C’mon now. That’s just lazy piss-poor writing you are literally going through the diary of all supernatural/mythological entities and just throwing them into this series for lack of storytelling. And yes I know about Malivore but his story/existence as a golem is another example of piss-poor writing, they literally turned this stuff into X-Men/Harry Potter. So I feel you I ain’t watching it, my sister and her friends watch it, I just get on here and see episode clips that’s all 😂
@@CosmicStench_ To be fair I can get why you say that especially since Legacies has no real plot. But the novels it was based on always has a everything is real type setting the show in the beginning couldn’t do it because of the budget they had. Still like Legacies though
Lizzie and Hope put up a good fight and i respect that but we knew Ken was still going to win, without witchcraft on the playing field Hope is just a hybrid and Lizzie is just a vampire since siphoning him is to much for her to handle. We finally have a true threat in Legacies, thank god.
One easy way to beat Gods is by creating another Malivore. Witch, Vampire and werewolf blood can create Malivore. So if they can get the spell from Aurora. Cleo, MG and Jed's blood with dark magic Malivore spell. It'll work.
@@puddingface1902 Then they’ll have malivore back on their hands. again. and not only that eventually they would get out, Hope would have to kill malivore again and risk setting the gods free from him or leave him alive and allow him to send multiple monsters after her while affecting people with his mud. Regardless she’ll still have a threat on her hands and her and landon dying would’ve been for nothing because now Malivore is back. but yeah you’re right on that that could be a potential way to lock the God’s away again but it won’t hold them forever.
@@thevampirediariesuniverse.7380 I agree, definitely don’t want another Malivore; however, don’t make the same one and don’t make him forever hungry. This would make the chances of betrayal less likely
@@puddingface1902 didn’t we already do this prison world thing and Malivore and he literally just escaped AGAIN. it has to be another solution to getting rid of the God’s that doesn’t include the irreverent Mud Man. He’s been around long enough so let’s just cut him from all of this😭
At this point, if Hope somehow ends up beating up a God, I'm done. There is a point where they either may her to strong and unrealistic. Yes, I understand it's a supernatural show, but there are some things she shouldn't have been able to win against.
Right. That this point, the show got out of hand. Don't get me wrong, there are some Hope could beat but there were so many she shouldn't have been able to beat. Like a dragon shifter. They are made of pure magic so her ass should not have been able to beat it like that.
This scene looks so much like Hayley and Klaus, when Hayley dies, Ken holding Lizzie by her neck, Greta holding Hayley by her neck, Ken throwing Lizzie on the fence, Hayley throwing her a Greta in the sun, and the shock and hurt on Hope's face with her screaming out for Lizzie matched Klaus's "NO"!
"I am Klaus Mikaelaon's Daughter" That line is always so amazing ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ This scene shows she really cares about the school and her people and is ready to do anything for them, something Klaus and Hayley would do. Like Parents Like Daughter ❤️ This baddie will surely be tough for Hope but with some help she for sure will take him down no matter what ❤️
@@Lucci136 yeah and gods feared him. So maybe if hope plans properly, she can defeat Ken coz she is the amalgamation of witch, werewolf and vampire, THE TRIBRID Gods always existed, but when malivore was created and he became strong, that's when Ken asked Jen's help for his protection.
Just because she lost that round doesn't mean it's over for her she's a Mickelson one of a kind literally I can't wait to see what her and lizzie do next
@@ItsNicckster no no she didnt she was only able to hold out because of her friends and godly hammer but glory said many times the only reason she didnt kill buffy and only teased her was she knew buffy had her key but she could have squashed her like a bug anytime she wanted
This might sound messed up but I actually kind of like seeing hope loose and a fight because she's so used to winning and being right half the time and people needing her that this was actually the time where one she failed two she didn't know what to do three she had to rely on other people and actually do things as a team and not just by herself or anything
Oh my God you clearly don't understand anything do you nobody has a problem with hope losing a fight what people have a problem with is that she never bothered to fight back at any point in time we don't respect heroes because they win irrespect heroes because against the eyes they keep fighting are they at least try but she didn't try to do anything so you're happy that she lost because she didn't bother to do anything that makes sense to you
@@rizzboyyeah6999 I don't understand why you accept this like this is reality this completely goes against the characters nature and undermines the character like when Ken was about to throw the spear at her then she stood there and did nothing I can't even believe that that was the explanation that made sense to you
@@albertbostic It's not "against the characters nature", she's facing a god, an interpretation of one of the strongest gods in existence at that, the point was for her to face an enemy that she stood no chance against. She knew she stood no chance which is why she didn't attempt any straight-forward attacks. Yes, Hope is powerful but she's not an idiot, if she would've let her ego get to her here it would've resulted in her death. It's not the explanation that makes sense to me, it's the ONLY logical explanation.
@@rizzboyyeah6999 tf are u talking about, maybe it's in ur natural to just give up which is why u said something so stupid,but saying if she didn't do anything cuz it would have been worst,tf is worse to not try at all then to just give up, nobody expected here to win,but not trying is 1000 worst,she just watch her friend get toss like garbage an she stays on the ground still,this shi writing was meant for someone like u but f no for me
Okay so I'm wondering what Ken meant by "It took me a lifetime to learn how to control all my power." He seemed to brush Hope off like she's nothing. But with Lizzie, there was almost a familiarity there. Like is Ken so powerful because he siphoned other gods? Maybe Ben became a full god via siphoning? Like maybe siphoners are merely just demi-gods who haven't siphoned from a god in order to gain their god powers. Honestly, I'm so excited to see what'll happen with Lizzie this season. We know so little about siphoners and heretics, but it seems like they're connected to the gods in some way. At the very least, she’s DEFINITELY more powerful than we originally thought. She just has to grow into that power and strength.
If he’s a God then he’s immortal, and a lifetime is usually 100 years because most people don’t live past the age of 100. Sure, there are a few who live up to 106 or something like that, but they are too old by that point. So to this God dude 100 years must be nothing
If Hope in the end wins God I'm done, I love Hope but he's a GOD, hope without her magic is just a hybrid you can't make a hybrid even a tribrid win a fight against God
What do the gods want exactly? Because it seems like he only wanted his daughter. But a couple of episodes back it seemed to have something to do with Hope but they didn't know Hope because they were in coffins
I think that hope is gonna level up haaaaard. She once has shown us her trybrid form while fighting against malivore, but I think It didn't make justice, so I guess she'll have a transformation or something bigger. Idk
Look as much as I like this hope barely put up a fight she just used magic which she knew it wouldn’t work what about her original strength and speed she could fight hand to hand with him might still get beaten but better to try like that instead of using magic.
I mean I get what your saying but I think she did and seeing a dubs fight where all you see are impacts would be boring. That is just my opinion however.
I get it's hopes/kids turn .. but having Marcel, Kol, Rebekah & Freya pop up to help her as "they should" would be brilliant. After all when did they have to fight a freaking God ?! Puttin all that on hope alone with some baby vamps & witches.
Honestly, with Hope being so overpowered for a very long time this has to be very humbling for her. Really, that's part of the reason I didn't wanna watch this show anymore because she was just too powerful and it was getting annoying. You have to have a balance in a characters power.
The whole series the closest thing we’ve had to a singular antagonist was death itself and Hope’s destiny to become the Tribrid because Malivore was always so peripheral until season 3 when he started doing dirty work himself. They fought against destiny so hard so when they embraced it and Hope’s main enemy became herself it was such an interesting change of pace… of course they had to go all the way to the very top of the magical food chain for the next antagonist. Wonder if putting Ken down will leave her permanently Nerfed in some way, like she always has a hand tied behind her back from that point forward like Raven in Teen Titans who has to constantly use some of her power to maintain the spell to keep her father trapped. Or maybe Landon will keep Landivore’s powers when he comes back and he can consume Ken. Maybe Hope as a NOLA witch needs to become the new Regent and use her 1 free no questions asked unlimited power spell to put Ken down… unless Ancestral magic ALSO doesn’t work on him.
Seriously Hope and Lizzie can do more in next episode... They not use fully of their power yet. Come on Hope and Lizzie... They still learning how to fight Ken
I need to start watching The Originals and Legacies from the beginning. I forget how good these shows are. And especially now I know that one of my favourite Australian actors has appeared in Legacies. I love Luke Mitchell ❤️❤️
@@xXWolfMurderessXx Yeah me to. I love Hope and Lizzie's relationship. I was scared for her a moment there. I thought Ken was about to kill her. I'm glad he didn't.
For y’all complaining they nerfed her. Remember he is a God to gods. Jen actually made Hope afraid the first time they “fought”. Plus Hope just turned her humanity and had not have human blood in what I would assume a week. So she is kinda of her game.
I don't even mind that she lost, it establishes Ken as a powerful and menacing villain, as opposed to Aurora who got beaten by Hope at every possible corner. My problem with this scene is that, just like with Jen, she _doesn't fight back._ Why does she just sit there and let herself get hit? She doesn't dodge, she doesn't throw a punch back, she basically just rolls over for him. Just like she let Jen waltz up on her with the piece of wood before Lizzie came in. Why isn't she defending herself?
THIS. My thought exactly. Or it was her way of thinking ‘I deserve this for what I’ve done’… but honestly I wish she didn’t just sit there and let herself get beat up like that without putting up a fight
I think she realize that her big guns were not on the level and he is much more powerful that the simulation so his attacks really took her down faster than she expected.
@@camgeorge6222 Yeah she was definitely outmatched that was clear, but there were some parts where he just walked right up to her and punched her when she could have at least moved or done anything at all.
hope never beat Aurora the first time Aurora lost on purpose to take hope body the second time she was distracted by lizzie while hope invisible hope is not phyically stronger then 1k years old vampire hope as the physical strength equal tyler and haley
After Claire Holt for Rebekah Mikaelson and Phoebe Tonkin for Hayley Marshall-Kenner for both Vampire Diaries and The Originals, they hired Luke Mitchell for Ken The God on Legacies. They all three actors worked in H2o Series back in 2006. Just to let you know.
What the hell even happened to this universe. If they wanted to make a show like this, they should have just created a new universe entirely, instead of ruining all the previously established TvD and TO lore and making this universe some Once Upon a Time fairytale ripoff. Really? Gods in capes and golden armor in the same universe as Klaus Mikaelson? What a waste.
Well…you’re not wrong as that what I tell myself whenever I think of Legacies after TVD and TO ended Legacies is it’s own universe while TVD/TO is another and the latter is what we all know in love than the former
Okay, I agree that Hope had to be grounded, lost now. But she had to hold more stamina she didn't make any hits, that she had to at least try instead of being kicked and punched the whole fight. It's a God, but a hit or two from the tribrid had to cash them. Hope in TO did magic here I see only fire or wind ... In legacies he also had the grimoire with dark spells, she could use something against this God ...
@@May-nu9iw I know he's great and he's super gifted Ken, but that's too easy, as if Hope a simple witch ... should be able to inflict pain instead even if a God can be killed by another god it doesn't mean it doesn't must feel the pain of another species..
@@cuorefreddo8736 u remember the gods basically created magic this is not some normal earthly creature this is a higher being pure power taken form and conciousness simple spells is not going to do much hell look at supernatural rowena an old an powerful witch who can kill demons and taken down archangels when she fought amara her spell basically had little effect. To fight gods u need power of a god. Or dark magics from places ancient and corrupt. Or divine to fight gods
@@cuorefreddo8736 Yh I agree with you. I was confused with the whole concept of Hope not putting up a fight against him. She could’ve done some damage, not greatly but even a bit. But she decided to get beat up
@@camgeorge6222 I repeat I know that Ken is super gifted I know that the gods can create magic, and that it has been said that only a God can kill a God.Hope is a complete tribrid now it should mean something, it's not that he is a nullity. he knows dark magic, he might have used it, create something dark and trap this god at least.Legacies is ruining what The Originals tried to find, Hope should be powerful, able to end up with all witches, that is, no more magic .. it should mean something .. And yes, I find it correct and I like that they want to put her in trouble but so they make her seem weaker than Lizzie and anyone else, a normal supernatural ...Dhalia, Ester, they created black magic, Hope should live up to her origins ..
It's a god what did everyone expected? That Hope will beat his ass? Of course he's far more stronger. He's gonna put a fight! He's a god and we all know that's basically the strongest being in the world. Yes I know they hype Hope as the most powerful being but that was before we knew there were other being besides wolves, witches and vampires. Hope became the most powerful being because in The Originals we thought there's only witches, wolves and vampires at that time and Hope was all of those three and now that they introduced gods ofcourse they're gonna be the no.1 in the hierarchy right now. I expected this to happen since he's a god that kinda has the same powers as thor or even superman. Vampires are strong but I don't think they're as strong as superman and that Ken can even fly. She's a witch, yes but they need spells and even need to anchor from something to get more power while Ken has a power that doesn't need spells and anchors. I'd be disappointed tbh if that god was beaten by Hope just like that. It will take more episodes before she can beat him cos they need to strategize and find his weakness just like what her father did, lose first then figure out a plan
I love the "is that name supposed to mean something to me" line lol. Hearing her talk about her dad standing for family was just the dumbest thing lol he was a psycho mass murder, and clearly she's inherited his ego. Also was ironic how he asked why she wouldn't die and yet he hadn't actually tried to kill her yet lol he literally could have just ripped her apart and been done.
They are only afraid of malivore because they are powered by faith so the moment malivore absorbs them then everyone forgets them however what they did not know is that they cannot be forgotten by malivore
I honestly hate how they did this fight scene with hope like it felt like they told the actor to not try and fight back she had healing literally she could have got up and punched him or something
I'm with you, it seems the writers have forgotten how powerful Hope is. We have seen that although the vampires push and hit them, it does not hurt them as much
It only seems like the red oak stake can actually kill Hope for good. While the gods are indeed the strongest and oldest supernatural creatures in tvd universe. It seems like Ken doesn't really understand how natural only gives certain weaknesses to each supernatural creature.
Basically the show nerfed the gods like it did everything cause he was about to cut her head off and the writers ran away from it. The dude beat her so hard that she went to limbo. Which shows how close to death she was Red oak ain't truly needed. But because the writers wanna avoid truly killing their favorite characters they avoid it.
The fake worry about Lizzie's injury. She's a vampire. It wasn't made of wood. She's fine. A few decades under her belt and she'd have gotten back up and walked it off.
I do like that this wasn’t just another easy fight for Hope but I do wish they would’ve let Hope get some hits in that actually did something. They made her look extremely weak here and she’s the only tribrid. They should’ve given her something, I do like that she lost but I don’t like they way she did. She looks so powerful and is the most powerful person in that entire school and maybe even TVD and TO universe, yet she did not land one single hit that did damage even if it was minimal.
Those hope lovers that got pissed at hope getting her ass handed to her, obv don't know good scripting. If hope were to beat everyone she came across, the whole show would be boring and pointless because we know just because she's a tribrid, she will always win. This scene was one of the best scenes because it finally shows someone who can kick her ass, she ain't invincible you know. 💀
@@Kaisforeignadventures vampire and hybrid stuff, her magic isn’t useless though. She can still use it in herself and other objects. She can go invisible, she can pull things to her and use spells to increase strength, etc. For example when she looked at that sword I was hoping she was gonna use magic to pull it to her and maybe get up and stab him, then Ken defeat her.
@@7ynxzs377 She could do those things, but who knows what ken can do. He could probably see through her invisibility, out match her strength and who knows what else and vampire werewolve powers won't cut it at all.
This scene is everything Gone are the days when we thought originals, hybrid vampire werewolf witches and tribrid were the best of this TVDU😊 gods have been here all long for eternity 😂 They have always been the top dogs of this universe 😆🤗
well for me if all the remaining originals were to fight Ken they MIGHT stand a chance alittle or atleast knock him off his feet alittle. Although I would put Marcel and Hope infront since they're more durable. Although if we were to out all the modified originals like an enhanced original, upgraded original beast, original hybrid, and original tribrid. Then and only then can they actually might stand a better chance. But for now if we are going to use the remaining cast it would be marcel and hope.
*this scene was underwhelming. hope didn’t even do much besides throw fire. the cw network & writers literally have no concept of having a character hold their own in a battle without them getting beaten to a pulp and yet hyping to them up to be an all powerful being*
Question, do I bold all ur msgs to make them pop out so more ppl read them? Bc if that’s the case truly worked, but I’m reading all 300 of these comments rn lol
someone finally puts the triflop in her place. don’t get me wrong i like hope but she needed a stronger opponent like all the tvdu’s show had. can’t wait to see the hope stans try and back her up on this one 🤣🤣🤣
Where did u get that evidence cause nobody in tvd has tried because they were never strong enough physically to fight them Plus the writers stayed away from those methods
@@camgeorge6222 In every plot of tvd and to nobody has thought of killing an original by removing his head, then I guess it will be the same as being with the dagger
If the gods were the creators of magic, couldn't they just take magic back that was stolen by Ben (Prometheus) from the mortal world? Therfore any magical being would lose their powers?
@@Rev4mpz yes but she can affect the environment around her. Hope is beyond nature while the gods are still bound to it. So she had more potential to have cosmic lightning opposed to regular lightning like “Ken.”
Magic directly on Gods doesn’t work, but she could use her magic on anything without Gods power. She could of done things to ground under Ken or enhance her own strength and stuff
@@oceanicfiction Hope isn’t experienced enough to strategically do that, also she expected the fight to go down easily as she planned to distract him so Lizzie could siphon him. When it didn’t work she was surprised and weakened, she highly underestimated Ken.
Hope did NOT use ALL of her TRIBRID powers. Thats why she got manhandled and beat like that. She might have lost the battle too with full Tribrid powers but at least not as harmed
Maybe she was losing this battle so she can win the war 🔥Some losses may look like losses but there could always be another motive. Now j don’t think this was one where she planned to be a lose win things but yeah. Think she didn’t want to expose her abilities bc it’s her only element of surprise. She needs too know Kens power, find a way to defeat him, then she can expose her abilities
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The strongest being in existence Ken.
You need an outro. The end slides cover up the end of your video.
"I'm Klaus Mikaelson's daughter."
"My father stood for family above everything."
ICONIC.
but he didn't, he had his family in coffins while he tried to make a hybrid army which he preferred in seasons 2 and 3 tvd
@@hassanwaheed8539 that was his way of protecting them, he was twisted to say the least
@@diamondcrystal9308 he likes to think he was protecting them, but that was never the case
@@hassanwaheed8539 exactly. his action might be wrong. and he might be one of the worst decision maker in TO and full on impulse. but his intention had always been to protect his family no matter how twisted he was.
@@telletubby8070 dont confuse control and abuse for love klaus cared more about controlling them .
I really like this scene. Seeing Hope getting completely manhandled like that is really good because it establishes she isn't invincible, which means she has to progress, and it really sells out the Gods's threat and makes them stand out.
i fully agree
this is what they should have done last season they should have killed malivore first season and went straight to the gods
they are the new originals and i love it reminds me a little of the old tvd days when the original family first woke up
*not invincible BUT capable. not saying everybody doesn’t have a weakness, but to get beaten to a pulp with no retaliation from hope’s side was a huge contradiction to what they were hyping hope up to be*
@@ItsNicckster this is the samething that has happened each time a big new baddie comes along like inadu, dhalia, arcadius and when the originals first appeared in tvd
the good guys get their ass whooped badly and dont do any damage and then they come together stronger next time
it doesnt matter what hope would have done she still would have lost
@@Igivegdparent even when the odds were against hope, it would’ve still been better to see her stand her ground more rather than taking the obvious outcome of “immediately losing against a stronger being.”
I loved this too but im so confused on how she died- only the red oak stake can kill her and yet here we are she died
Hope was like" hell nah yu not the only one with glowing eyes".
lmaoooo right !!!!!!
That was my fav part 💖💖
but his looked much cooler doe lmao.
@@rafaelisslaam1894It didnt but wbk.
@@rafaelisslaam1894 Those small ass sparkles look pathetic 💀
I feel like this scene was good for hope. She’s always been known to win and now we will see her handle defeat. They’re really doing good this season
*there’s a difference between having her handle defeat and not even put up a decent enough fight to begin with. this scene was beyond disappointing*
@@ItsNicckster she is fighting a god
what do you expect do you want everything to come easy to her? or have a real challenge?
@@Igivegdparent *i’m not dismissing the strength and capabilities of a god, but seeing hope’s fighting style throughout the season proves she’s capable of holding her own WAY more than she did here. yeah it’s good to have a challenging opponent, but to not make an effort at all to win?*
@@ItsNicckster she did make an effort
i dont know if you noticed but tribid hope with humanity relies more on her magick and no humanity hope relies on her speed and strength or basically brutality
but we already know that didnt really work on jen who is weaker than her father
she is probably trying to test and see how far his durability goes
@@Igivegdparent ok but she absolutely got destroyed it’s like she was a human😂
To everyone complaining that Hope was beaten too easily, think about this: would you REALLY have wanted to see Hope be evenly matched and trading blows with a frickin’ GOD?!?! Wouldn’t that have cut out ALL the tension if he wasn’t an actual threat to her?
This entire season (and the past 3 ones as well) we’ve seen Hope absolutely obliterate all of her opponents. It’s nice to see her come up against someone she actually needs to use her wits against and not just her powers. Keen to see how they beat Ken.
Yea I don't think thier mad at her being beaten. They are mad the writers are making them wait to see her and the god really fight and probably that she used a fireball literally 1 fire ball when we know she can use more powerful magic!!! She didn't even try cause she was trying to keep everyone safe if she was using her power to really hurt the god for real I'm sure the sky would turn red, glass would shatter and fires would brake out I'm sure the school, forest and town would be completely distorted from them fighting.
Except she beat Malivore, who beat the God's. So, yeah, she should've been beating his ass
The writing and retconning of the TVD universe has been alot and terrible. If y'all are fans of this series, you would be complaining about this fight not being the least bit even
@@anthonyj5416 except magic doesn't work against gods. So she would have to use her vampire/werewolf powers only which I don't think are a match for a god. It seems like the gods can use their powers against her but she can't use her magic against them
@@calsh14 I don't think the gods even tried to fight Malivore. They just ran into hiding after hearing about a creature consuming magical beings. Unless I missed something
@@hulan2033 there is always a loop hole
HOW DID WE GO FROM VAMPIRES IN MYSTIC FALLS TO WHATEVER THIS IS LMAOAOAO
lmfao
So in your genius brain... Where does magic come from? And if magic exists, is it so unfathomable to think that something outside of vampire witches and werewolves exist?
@@nonamenoname4641 Exactly. People bitch too much.
@@nonamenoname4641 It was stated in both The Vampire Diaries and The Originals that witches are Natures' servants. So it was very presumed that magic came from nature, or at least the manifestation of it. Gods were not originally included. Generally putting gods into the picture wasn't a bad thing. It's all about the supernatural. But the way the producers portrayed the gods in Legacies was horrible.
Ifkr 😂😂😂as a fan of TVD i don't even know wtf going on 😂 They really took the supernatural part of the series and put it on steroids
“Is that name supposed to mean something to me,”
Oh Lord Zeus......you really don’t want to ask that question. This is the family that defies everything and everyone.
I was getting more MCU Thor vibes. 😄
But agreed.
@@SherrickDuncan Haha yes!
@@Cuban20 🤭😅😄🤣😅😆😂🤭
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@@SherrickDuncan Christ don’t remind me. That bear guy has traumatized me for life.
@@Cuban20 Bear? Haha. What do you mean?
It seems like hope didn’t really plan to fight him at all she just wanted to distract him and lizzy can steal gods power. She said it herself it would be interesting in the next episode. I do really want to know what lizzy can do with the power she absorbed from Ken.
It's unlikely she kept it because she was in a lot of pain before being launched
I think so too. We did not really get a plan on what they were planning. Also I think she wanted to be in a coma so to get something and Landon from limbo
@@username.exenotfound2943 yeah true if she took any of his power he would be in a bit of pain showing he has being weakened by her absorbing him
@@kokushibo2790 It WAS kind of like Rogue trying to absorb Juggernaut's powers in X-Men: TAS.
I was sorry of hoping a supercharged Lizzie would get back up and start whooping "Ken"'s ass.
Such a great episode. Hope's finally back with the squad. And she had her first fight back with Lizzie. I was so worried that Lizzie would die. Glad she's ok❤️
I knew Lizzie obvs wouldn’t die. She’s a heretic and it’s not like she got stabbed by a wooden stake. She got stabbed by a metal pole and knocked out. She would obviously come back
@@n0tgvs Ya I know but, they were battling a god.
They need lizzie alive so she can become the antigod to kill ken but in order for her to become the antigod she need a god to give her all their powers.
Hope’s lack of fight toward this god makes me think that she wasn’t fighting to live here, she was “fighting to die”…
No Ken is a god he’s too powerful
@@lucasnugent3183 okay you're clearly missing the point a lot of people are upset they weren't upset that hope lost they were upset that hope didn't fight back she didn't put up a fight we know she wasn't going to win but it wasn't about winning it was about trying to put up a fight
@@albertbostic You ever consider that Hope knew she wasn't going to be able to fight against him? That'd be the most logical explanation.
@@albertbostic SHE COULDNT PUT UP A FIGHT. she relies entirely too much on her witch powers.
Honestly I like that they didn’t shy away from Hope getting beat down by Ken. Yes irl she is a small woman and he is a big guy but in the world of Legacies, she is the almighty tribrid and he is a god that doesn’t care what gender he’s fighting as long as it’s someone in his way.
but when he said “they send a LITTLE GIRL to challenge a God” just because she looked small and he was a big man (as if he wasn’t standing in front of a school for SUPERNATURAL creatures) that cringed me.
@@jasminelauri7702 if im infinite more powerfull everyone is a little boy or girl... deprogram yourself from your dumb echochamber feminism and your life will be better believe me.
@@jasminelauri7702 I think it’s because as a God he’s thousands and thousands of years old, and the students at The Salvatore School are barely adults. (Like Hope’s only 18/19) so he sees them as a joke as just ‘kids’ trying to beat a God.
@@jasminelauri7702 he didnt even know it was a school for supernatural
you act like he has been awake to witness everything that went on
🤣😂
@@Rev4mpz exactly, she missed that point.
Ken - All Powers from Legacies
God Physiology:
1. Invulnerability - 0:36
2. Magic Immunity - 0:49
3. Wind Generation - 0:54
4. Divine Eletrokinesis - 0:56
5. Super Strength - 1:19
6. (Skill): Master Combatant - 1:47
7. (Equipment): Sword - 2:21
8. Teleportation - 3:07
I love it when she shows her glowing eyes
I can imagine Klaus and Hayley trying to escape “peace” to save their daughter 🥺🥺🥺
*their
Yeah imagine them standing there invisible watching their daughter being beaten. Their defrentenly try to excape to save Hope.
@@ericasharp1872 no they won’ because even they know the lengths of hope mikealson power they would probably tell her to get back up
Klauss is def in hell
@@leonlopez2441 💀💀💀💀💀
The reason I think she didn't put up a decent fight is because deep inside her mind, she thinks she deserves this. After all she had done when her humanity was off, she didn't have the strength to fight back, surrender and let go.
I hope theres some Reason because its stupid if the gods are so powerful that she cant even put up a fight that theres no chance of them winning
It's a god he is more powerful how is that so hard to believe
@@camgeorge6222 it's not that. Hope didn't even have a will to fight back it seemed like she wanted to die so she doesn't have to outlive all the people she loves.
no the god is more powerful as he should be
@@skywalker484 she won’t die for that her head would grow back she only dies from red oak , not a sword !
I don’t know why people are upset Hope lost. I know she’s the all powerful tribrid, but this is a GOD. In every mythology, not to mention every 📺 shows, gods are essentially all powerful. Besides, they’ve been hyping Ken up to be far more powerful than Hope. Frankly, i’m surprised she’s still alive.
Main characters and plot Armour 😂
we are upset because hope was built up to be this powerful creature on the originals that had everyone scared and she was so powerful on the originals but i legacies that is her show and was supposed to be about her and the twins and the time we finally see tribrid hope they downplay her and have a man overpower her like we watched her grow up and we were going to see how powerful she truly is and why everyone was scared of her like legacies is a joke and keep downplaying hope and how powerful she truly is like why y’all so possess that were upset at this childish show that clearly don’t care about women
@@hopeandreamikaelson5985 when tf did this become about men and women 😭🤦🏽♂️he’s Zeus do you really think a fuckin vampire,witch werewolf is going to beat the God ZEUS💀
@@hopeandreamikaelson5985 The fuck did this happen to be about gender 😂. She’s fighting a mythological God of course a tribrid is nothing in face of a god.
@@hopeandreamikaelson5985 hope is not downplayed especially in strength emotional stability she has so much control this a god for fuck sakes he even said it took him a very long time to control his power this has nothing to do with representation or gender roles between men and women hope is an original tribrid she’s not a god but her existence is something that people tried to fix by killing her gods were worshiped and adored hope was hated and not to be rifled with HE IS ZUES WTF ARE SOME OF YOU TALKING ABOUT HOPE BEING DOWNPLAYED HOPE CANT WIN THIS FIGHT NOT ALONE
I honestly don’t think the gods know what hope is because he asked “Why won’t you die” Ken probably thinks hope is just a witch and not knowing she’s a tribrid
I don't think he cares. He seems pretty arrogant.
Well vampires were pretty new and rare in his time they have only been around for 1000 yrs tops. The gods were put to sleep in like mabye a 100yrs or so later.
@@camgeorge6222 Even if he knew everything there is about vampires. Hope is still something new. Even if he tried staking Hope. She wouldn't die because he wouldn't have the right stake to kill her with. Nore would it know the right weapo. Unless someonetells him. I don't know how she would survive decapitation. Apparently not even that could kill an original. So why Hope? Vampire would have been down faster or killed. Ken did throw a lightening bolt at Hope. We don't know if any other vampires could have served that. Normal vampires can be killed so easily. Not just by a wooden stake. Nothing but a red oak stake can kill Hope and if there's any left. There's probably only one. I can wait till Hope shows these gods her true power. What she's truly capable of.
@@ericasharp1872 taking a hear from hope or any original will kill them
@@ericasharp1872 no originals has ever being in an issue where they were ripped to pieces or decapitated . No evidence or claims have ever been made of them survive such things . They immortality is all talk no show . Especially since they were the strongest monsters around for 1000 yrs. Not many could say they were strong enough to subdue and decapitate them especially since the writers tried to stay away from such things.
“Why won’t you die?”
It’s kinda my thing 😂
I'd love to see more of Lizzie and Ken relationship's develop : regarding their magic. I think it would be interesting to watch if they were linked due to the attemped siphon. Lizzie trying to tap into her magic more since becoming an heretic.
A story could be born from there. ;)
Like a spinoff of siphoner god like child that would be so epic!
It shows Lizzie gotta improve her siphoning, it’s now more than just putting her hand on someone and pulling basically. She’s gotta find things to aid it or enhance it. Makes siphoning gain a category to improve. Seems easy but with this it’s gets way harder
@@7ynxzs377 improve how he a god a king of gods the only way lizzie can improve her siphon is it do long distance siphoning
If it’s her and joise it might be enough to weaken him for a short period of time
Her siphoning has me thinking they have more potential than a regular witch as even hope couldn’t use magic against him
I like that she doesn’t win this one but I feel like it would’ve been a little bit more entertaining had she shown full tribrid powers in the beginning and then he be surprised and then within a second he starts winning
Maybe she didn’t want to show him all her powers in their first fight 🤔
@@Daria-uq4rl that would be clever he’ll think she’s a normal witch and hope will maybe hit him with her powers later on to surprise him yk never let them know your next move
if you take witchcraft off the playing field Hope is nothing but a Hybrid, what exactly did yall expect? Magic doesn’t work against them and that’s Hope only element of surprise in battle. So she can’t show “full tribrid powers” if she can’t USE all of her powers.
@@thevampirediariesuniverse.7380 tbh i feel as it doesn’t matter if the magic doesn’t work she’s a original hybrid , witch & vampire so ik for a fact she would’ve done damage to ken , Ben is a god & hope snapped his neck . the god has been sleep but he only got powerful bc of the way jen talked abt their father , when you believe in him he gains his powers , when your not afraid of him it makes him weak it’s all logical everyone is scared of this big bad god coming down to destroy , but no one’s realizing is all you have to do is be like “ man idc abt that god , he can suck a bleep “ his powers boom vanish. i believe hope with her humanity had her scared & she was alr scared for her friends bc she knew they were gonna try to help fight & dude would’ve literally ended the whole school with one lighting strike . Hope should’ve turned that humanity off just for that second & showed him who klaus mikaelsons daughter is even tho she wouldn’t have won but she could’ve had him sore or some 😂😂
@@Daria-uq4rl that is smart, She knew she’d lose so she wasn’t gonna expose herself at all. She needs the element of surprise, strategy, improvement, and obviously more help than she’s willing to take. She can’t just our everyone to sleep to protect them everytime. Eventually she’s gonna have to accept their help
Damn hope is gonna have to level up for sure if she wants to defeat this god
It feels kinda sad how she’s always Klaus’s daughter but GIRL you’re also Hayley’s that woman was strong af
Strong because she had the entire original family behind her ☠️
@@slade833not rlly
I thought Lizzie was going to die at first. I’m glad she didn’t.
I really wish that the writers could acknowledge Hayley more.She’s been barely mentioned at all.
Agree... She was a powerful woman too
Yeah I agree. It’s always Klaus this Klaus that. “What if she’s more like her father” or “I am my fathers daughter.” Hayley was an AMAZING woman and a fierce protector of a mom who died doing what she always did: protect her daughter.
The only one to mention Hayley in a good way is my girl Freya but she always comes in clutch so I wasn’t surprised
Tbh I thought they would they would explore Hope being guilty about playing a small part in Hayley’s death even though she obviously didn’t mean to … and also, Hayley was the one spent more time with Hope when Klaus didn’t see her for many years. If anything, Hope should have been just as close to Hayley. It literally makes no sense that Hope only mentions and acknowledges Klaus as her parent. In fact I think the only time Hope mentioned Hayley was in season 2 when she told Alaric that she is Klaus and Hayley’s daughter???
@Francisco Leyva Martin Hayley is the parent that raised Hope. Klaus was abseent her whole life.
@Francisco Leyva Martin hayley died when she was 15 or 16 I guess. She raised her. And then she went to the salvatore school
If you think about now when the originals use to say they were the most powerful beings on earth and looking at this it kinda of makes you want to laugh
FRRRR
well they werent wrong hahaha at the time the gods were locked away besides jen
i still wish they shown more history on the gods and i also wonder how the ancestors or any of the elder witch tribes or bennets never knew the gods existed?
I don’t really like how now the gods are just real and all the stupid fairy tale creatures
I think it’s ruined a lot of the aesthetic of the world, especially when your used to TVD and Originals.
Just my opinion I just can’t watch this show at all
@@CosmicStench_ I agree 💯 they’ve spent 8 seasons of TVD and 5 seasons of TO telling stories that featured just vampires, werewolves, witches, hybrids, travelers, sirens, heretics, supernatural hunters, Cade, the Hollow, Silas, and all that. Now all of a sudden when Hope gets her spin-off….. all these other magical / mythological creatures just start coming out of the woodwork??…..where the hell were dragons and gargoyles, evil killing unicorns, and beings like Malivore when the Originals roamed the earth for a thousand years, Katherine for 500 years, and Stefan and Damon for 160-something years? You mean to tell me these other creatures have existed this WHOLE time and not once have they encountered these random ass beasts and monsters and gods? C’mon now. That’s just lazy piss-poor writing you are literally going through the diary of all supernatural/mythological entities and just throwing them into this series for lack of storytelling. And yes I know about Malivore but his story/existence as a golem is another example of piss-poor writing, they literally turned this stuff into X-Men/Harry Potter. So I feel you I ain’t watching it, my sister and her friends watch it, I just get on here and see episode clips that’s all 😂
@@CosmicStench_ To be fair I can get why you say that especially since Legacies has no real plot. But the novels it was based on always has a everything is real type setting the show in the beginning couldn’t do it because of the budget they had.
Still like Legacies though
Loved seeing this shows how powerful a God really should be and own any supernatural creature
god, not God
@@sergiomariotti9354 It’s the same thing dumbass
@@sergiomariotti9354 GOD
@@mahabharat156 thats disrespectful
@@rafaelisslaam1894 yesh truly
I love how TVD’s ultimate villain is Cade (the devil) while Legacie’s ultimate villain is Ken (the god)
Not the god, a God. There's a difference. Tmh God isn't a villain, these characters are and a lower case g at that
@@LilySteph1949 actual God is so much powerful than all this.
@@LilySteph1949 THE GOD.
Lizzie and Hope put up a good fight and i respect that but we knew Ken was still going to win, without witchcraft on the playing field Hope is just a hybrid and Lizzie is just a vampire since siphoning him is to much for her to handle. We finally have a true threat in Legacies, thank god.
One easy way to beat Gods is by creating another Malivore. Witch, Vampire and werewolf blood can create Malivore. So if they can get the spell from Aurora. Cleo, MG and Jed's blood with dark magic Malivore spell. It'll work.
@@puddingface1902 Then they’ll have malivore back on their hands. again. and not only that eventually they would get out, Hope would have to kill malivore again and risk setting the gods free from him or leave him alive and allow him to send multiple monsters after her while affecting people with his mud. Regardless she’ll still have a threat on her hands and her and landon dying would’ve been for nothing because now Malivore is back. but yeah you’re right on that that could be a potential way to lock the God’s away again but it won’t hold them forever.
@@thevampirediariesuniverse.7380 I agree, definitely don’t want another Malivore; however, don’t make the same one and don’t make him forever hungry. This would make the chances of betrayal less likely
@@thevampirediariesuniverse.7380 After the Gods are eaten. Send Malivore 2 into a prison world.
@@puddingface1902 didn’t we already do this prison world thing and Malivore and he literally just escaped AGAIN. it has to be another solution to getting rid of the God’s that doesn’t include the irreverent Mud Man. He’s been around long enough so let’s just cut him from all of this😭
My boi Thor looking more lit and man… he looks different. I can’t wait to see what happens in Love & Thunder!
Haha I was thinking this looks like Thor after he loses his Thanos Depression Dad Bod.
It seems that Thor is tired of fighting..
@@ficostaffansson6856 he is yes. He mentioned that in the trailer to the new Thor Love And Thunder.
Lol
He gets insulted by Zeus 🤧
At this point, if Hope somehow ends up beating up a God, I'm done. There is a point where they either may her to strong and unrealistic. Yes, I understand it's a supernatural show, but there are some things she shouldn't have been able to win against.
😅
Well said
It would be more acceptable if she convinces him, than beating him.
Right. That this point, the show got out of hand. Don't get me wrong, there are some Hope could beat but there were so many she shouldn't have been able to beat. Like a dragon shifter. They are made of pure magic so her ass should not have been able to beat it like that.
If one makes God bleed then those who follow him will stop believing in him it's a psychological thing more than a physical one.
This episode was so good tonight!! Can’t wait for next week!!
Where Can I Watch This ?
The cw app
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This scene looks so much like Hayley and Klaus, when Hayley dies, Ken holding Lizzie by her neck, Greta holding Hayley by her neck, Ken throwing Lizzie on the fence, Hayley throwing her a Greta in the sun, and the shock and hurt on Hope's face with her screaming out for Lizzie matched Klaus's "NO"!
Don’t remind us :[
As powerful as they may seem, these gods must have a weakness that can be used against them.
To maintain the natural rule that all things that live must die, nature has given all beings a weakness
Yes, Ken said it himself, Nothing it unkillable. Also A god can kill a God.
@@7ynxzs377 i guess you have to invite the God of war he's going to bring death to Ken's door step
@@7ynxzs377 well this thing happened in wonder woman movie
"I am Klaus Mikaelaon's Daughter"
That line is always so amazing ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
This scene shows she really cares about the school and her people and is ready to do anything for them, something Klaus and Hayley would do. Like Parents Like Daughter ❤️
This baddie will surely be tough for Hope but with some help she for sure will take him down no matter what ❤️
He should know Who Klaus is
@@Lucci136 HE TOTALLY SHOULD
HE SHOULD MEET THE MIKAELSON'S
@@aureliaaura1105 i was first like wasnt malivore created like 15 hundred years ago then i remembered it was created by a witch werewolf and a vampire
@@Lucci136 yeah and gods feared him. So maybe if hope plans properly, she can defeat Ken coz she is the amalgamation of witch, werewolf and vampire, THE TRIBRID
Gods always existed, but when malivore was created and he became strong, that's when Ken asked Jen's help for his protection.
Villains don't win.. Main characters do. The writer decides.
Plot Armour always.
Even batman whooped Superman
I think the writers were high when they wrote this scene.
Just because she lost that round doesn't mean it's over for her she's a Mickelson one of a kind literally I can't wait to see what her and lizzie do next
well klaus and elijah lost for good. she should have lost for good as well.
This is like Buffy vs Glory all over again lol...Buffy getting her butt handed to her
YeeeeeeesssSsssSsssss.....!!!!
Oh yeaaajhh now I gotta go rewatch BUFFY 🔥🔥🔥😂💯💯💯
They stole so much from Btvs
*don’t insult buffy like that. buffy held her own more than hope*
@@ItsNicckster no no she didnt
she was only able to hold out because of her friends and godly hammer
but glory said many times the only reason she didnt kill buffy and only teased her was she knew buffy had her key
but she could have squashed her like a bug anytime she wanted
This might sound messed up but I actually kind of like seeing hope loose and a fight because she's so used to winning and being right half the time and people needing her that this was actually the time where one she failed two she didn't know what to do three she had to rely on other people and actually do things as a team and not just by herself or anything
Oh my God you clearly don't understand anything do you nobody has a problem with hope losing a fight what people have a problem with is that she never bothered to fight back at any point in time we don't respect heroes because they win irrespect heroes because against the eyes they keep fighting are they at least try but she didn't try to do anything so you're happy that she lost because she didn't bother to do anything that makes sense to you
@@albertbostic She most likely didn't try to fight back because she knew there was no point, it'd probably just get her hurt even more.
@@rizzboyyeah6999 I don't understand why you accept this like this is reality this completely goes against the characters nature and undermines the character like when Ken was about to throw the spear at her then she stood there and did nothing I can't even believe that that was the explanation that made sense to you
@@albertbostic It's not "against the characters nature", she's facing a god, an interpretation of one of the strongest gods in existence at that, the point was for her to face an enemy that she stood no chance against. She knew she stood no chance which is why she didn't attempt any straight-forward attacks. Yes, Hope is powerful but she's not an idiot, if she would've let her ego get to her here it would've resulted in her death. It's not the explanation that makes sense to me, it's the ONLY logical explanation.
@@rizzboyyeah6999 tf are u talking about, maybe it's in ur natural to just give up which is why u said something so stupid,but saying if she didn't do anything cuz it would have been worst,tf is worse to not try at all then to just give up, nobody expected here to win,but not trying is 1000 worst,she just watch her friend get toss like garbage an she stays on the ground still,this shi writing was meant for someone like u but f no for me
Okay so I'm wondering what Ken meant by "It took me a lifetime to learn how to control all my power." He seemed to brush Hope off like she's nothing. But with Lizzie, there was almost a familiarity there. Like is Ken so powerful because he siphoned other gods? Maybe Ben became a full god via siphoning? Like maybe siphoners are merely just demi-gods who haven't siphoned from a god in order to gain their god powers.
Honestly, I'm so excited to see what'll happen with Lizzie this season. We know so little about siphoners and heretics, but it seems like they're connected to the gods in some way. At the very least, she’s DEFINITELY more powerful than we originally thought. She just has to grow into that power and strength.
If he’s a God then he’s immortal, and a lifetime is usually 100 years because most people don’t live past the age of 100. Sure, there are a few who live up to 106 or something like that, but they are too old by that point. So to this God dude 100 years must be nothing
@@JCardo2502 122 years old....the oldest who ever lived
I didn't watch the show but This was satisfying 😂 to see her get beat up cuz she always had that '' I'm the best no one can beat me '' smirk.
If Hope in the end wins God I'm done, I love Hope but he's a GOD, hope without her magic is just a hybrid you can't make a hybrid even a tribrid win a fight against God
What do the gods want exactly? Because it seems like he only wanted his daughter. But a couple of episodes back it seemed to have something to do with Hope but they didn't know Hope because they were in coffins
Ben and Jenn BOTH implied that gods are dicks. 'Nuff said.
I just wish she fighter back more..
I think that hope is gonna level up haaaaard. She once has shown us her trybrid form while fighting against malivore, but I think It didn't make justice, so I guess she'll have a transformation or something bigger. Idk
Look as much as I like this hope barely put up a fight she just used magic which she knew it wouldn’t work what about her original strength and speed she could fight hand to hand with him might still get beaten but better to try like that instead of using magic.
I mean I get what your saying but I think she did and seeing a dubs fight where all you see are impacts would be boring. That is just my opinion however.
I think it’s that she didn’t want to expose all her abilities or she felt like she deserved it and legitimately wanted to die or stm
I get it's hopes/kids turn .. but having Marcel, Kol, Rebekah & Freya pop up to help her as "they should" would be brilliant. After all when did they have to fight a freaking God ?! Puttin all that on hope alone with some baby vamps & witches.
I don't want to be that person, but Freya would be useless...
Honestly, with Hope being so overpowered for a very long time this has to be very humbling for her. Really, that's part of the reason I didn't wanna watch this show anymore because she was just too powerful and it was getting annoying. You have to have a balance in a characters power.
I feel like the creators made her loose because everyone was overpowering her !
Yeah
The whole series the closest thing we’ve had to a singular antagonist was death itself and Hope’s destiny to become the Tribrid because Malivore was always so peripheral until season 3 when he started doing dirty work himself. They fought against destiny so hard so when they embraced it and Hope’s main enemy became herself it was such an interesting change of pace… of course they had to go all the way to the very top of the magical food chain for the next antagonist. Wonder if putting Ken down will leave her permanently Nerfed in some way, like she always has a hand tied behind her back from that point forward like Raven in Teen Titans who has to constantly use some of her power to maintain the spell to keep her father trapped. Or maybe Landon will keep Landivore’s powers when he comes back and he can consume Ken. Maybe Hope as a NOLA witch needs to become the new Regent and use her 1 free no questions asked unlimited power spell to put Ken down… unless Ancestral magic ALSO doesn’t work on him.
Seriously Hope and Lizzie can do more in next episode... They not use fully of their power yet. Come on Hope and Lizzie... They still learning how to fight Ken
What happened to the battle test where she did some damage?
A battle test is something entirely different than reality.
@@dikastederook6380 True. I just thought she'd get a few hits in is all.
@@lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385 Maybe not hits but it could have been better is she was shown to try to fight a bit more and still get trashed.
@@dikastederook6380 But the writers didn't do it.
I want to see hope travel like Ken does through lighting
I need to start watching The Originals and Legacies from the beginning. I forget how good these shows are. And especially now I know that one of my favourite Australian actors has appeared in Legacies. I love Luke Mitchell ❤️❤️
"I'm Klaus Mikaelson's daughter" 🔥
I feel hope didn't even try to fight as all..😪
The scene would've been epic if Josie was here too. She and Lizzie may have been stronger together and maybe...
Only if Josie to was a heretic. If Josie was just human. She'll be too weak and would not survive being thrown into a fence or anything like Lizzie.
@@ericasharp1872 I love Lizzie actually
@@xXWolfMurderessXx Yeah me to. I love Hope and Lizzie's relationship. I was scared for her a moment there. I thought Ken was about to kill her. I'm glad he didn't.
@@ericasharp1872 I wish they'll renew the show for a fifth season. Otherwise I'd be very depressed later 😂
For y’all complaining they nerfed her. Remember he is a God to gods. Jen actually made Hope afraid the first time they “fought”. Plus Hope just turned her humanity and had not have human blood in what I would assume a week. So she is kinda of her game.
I expected her to get beat up but she didn't even get one hit in
I don't even mind that she lost, it establishes Ken as a powerful and menacing villain, as opposed to Aurora who got beaten by Hope at every possible corner. My problem with this scene is that, just like with Jen, she _doesn't fight back._ Why does she just sit there and let herself get hit? She doesn't dodge, she doesn't throw a punch back, she basically just rolls over for him. Just like she let Jen waltz up on her with the piece of wood before Lizzie came in. Why isn't she defending herself?
THIS. My thought exactly. Or it was her way of thinking ‘I deserve this for what I’ve done’… but honestly I wish she didn’t just sit there and let herself get beat up like that without putting up a fight
I think she realize that her big guns were not on the level and he is much more powerful that the simulation so his attacks really took her down faster than she expected.
@@camgeorge6222 Yeah she was definitely outmatched that was clear, but there were some parts where he just walked right up to her and punched her when she could have at least moved or done anything at all.
hope never beat Aurora the first time Aurora lost on purpose to take hope body the second time she was distracted by lizzie while hope invisible hope is not phyically stronger then 1k years old vampire hope as the physical strength equal tyler and haley
hope was trying fight back but she to weak that why she got her as beat
After Claire Holt for Rebekah Mikaelson and Phoebe Tonkin for Hayley Marshall-Kenner for both Vampire Diaries and The Originals, they hired Luke Mitchell for Ken The God on Legacies. They all three actors worked in H2o Series back in 2006. Just to let you know.
and so did lucien
Now
Arcades ( The devil ) VS Ken ( God )
Would be something to see
The eyes glowing one on one standing off
What the hell even happened to this universe. If they wanted to make a show like this, they should have just created a new universe entirely, instead of ruining all the previously established TvD and TO lore and making this universe some Once Upon a Time fairytale ripoff. Really? Gods in capes and golden armor in the same universe as Klaus Mikaelson? What a waste.
Well…you’re not wrong as that what I tell myself whenever I think of Legacies after TVD and TO ended
Legacies is it’s own universe while TVD/TO is another and the latter is what we all know in love than the former
It’s not really ruining anything if anything it’s closer to the source material.
I don't mind the gods story arcs, but I did hated the monsters
TVD was the first one to introduce Cade and Sirens, and Katherine becoming the ruler of the underworld.
Actually gods were in the books so technically their going by the source
This is what happens when the tribrid, which is their most powerful weapon, gets rabbit blood instead of human blood.
She should drink vamp blood🥹
That would be a 1,000% juice up
Okay, I agree that Hope had to be grounded, lost now. But she had to hold more stamina she didn't make any hits, that she had to at least try instead of being kicked and punched the whole fight. It's a God, but a hit or two from the tribrid had to cash them. Hope in TO did magic here I see only fire or wind ... In legacies he also had the grimoire with dark spells, she could use something against this God ...
She wouldn’t have been able to do harm because of his armour
@@May-nu9iw I know he's great and he's super gifted Ken, but that's too easy, as if Hope a simple witch ... should be able to inflict pain instead even if a God can be killed by another god it doesn't mean it doesn't must feel the pain of another species..
@@cuorefreddo8736 u remember the gods basically created magic this is not some normal earthly creature this is a higher being pure power taken form and conciousness simple spells is not going to do much hell look at supernatural rowena an old an powerful witch who can kill demons and taken down archangels when she fought amara her spell basically had little effect. To fight gods u need power of a god. Or dark magics from places ancient and corrupt. Or divine to fight gods
@@cuorefreddo8736 Yh I agree with you. I was confused with the whole concept of Hope not putting up a fight against him. She could’ve done some damage, not greatly but even a bit. But she decided to get beat up
@@camgeorge6222 I repeat I know that Ken is super gifted I know that the gods can create magic, and that it has been said that only a God can kill a God.Hope is a complete tribrid now it should mean something, it's not that he is a nullity. he knows dark magic, he might have used it, create something dark and trap this god at least.Legacies is ruining what The Originals tried to find, Hope should be powerful, able to end up with all witches, that is, no more magic .. it should mean something .. And yes, I find it correct and I like that they want to put her in trouble but so they make her seem weaker than Lizzie and anyone else, a normal supernatural ...Dhalia, Ester, they created black magic, Hope should live up to her origins ..
Lol Klaus “standing” for family. After he daggered and locked his family in coffins for a 1000 years lol.
It's a god what did everyone expected? That Hope will beat his ass? Of course he's far more stronger. He's gonna put a fight! He's a god and we all know that's basically the strongest being in the world. Yes I know they hype Hope as the most powerful being but that was before we knew there were other being besides wolves, witches and vampires. Hope became the most powerful being because in The Originals we thought there's only witches, wolves and vampires at that time and Hope was all of those three and now that they introduced gods ofcourse they're gonna be the no.1 in the hierarchy right now. I expected this to happen since he's a god that kinda has the same powers as thor or even superman. Vampires are strong but I don't think they're as strong as superman and that Ken can even fly. She's a witch, yes but they need spells and even need to anchor from something to get more power while Ken has a power that doesn't need spells and anchors. I'd be disappointed tbh if that god was beaten by Hope just like that. It will take more episodes before she can beat him cos they need to strategize and find his weakness just like what her father did, lose first then figure out a plan
right....if hope had easily beat the God everyone would still be complaining and that would have just been lame n predictable
She should have been like “i am all the Mikealsons….”,And they just start appearing behind her.
I love the "is that name supposed to mean something to me" line lol. Hearing her talk about her dad standing for family was just the dumbest thing lol he was a psycho mass murder, and clearly she's inherited his ego. Also was ironic how he asked why she wouldn't die and yet he hadn't actually tried to kill her yet lol he literally could have just ripped her apart and been done.
@@jimjaspers3050. The Klaus fans if given a chance could come up with theories that Klaus could take on a god... in his lycanthrope form😂😂😂
1:33 Hope’s scream for Lizzie omg-
i find it very confusing how the gods are afraid of malivore knowing he can defeat them but then hope defeated malivore so like....what
Hax ability. Malivore can literally absorb them
When was there any logic in the Legacies?
They are only afraid of malivore because they are powered by faith so the moment malivore absorbs them then everyone forgets them however what they did not know is that they cannot be forgotten by malivore
HOPE was Malivore's loophole. She was poison to it, it wasn't about strength or power. She was born to defet Malivore.
This feels like an episode of the arrow verse, not like TVD or Originals
I honestly hate how they did this fight scene with hope like it felt like they told the actor to not try and fight back she had healing literally she could have got up and punched him or something
I'm with you, it seems the writers have forgotten how powerful Hope is. We have seen that although the vampires push and hit them, it does not hurt them as much
For my legacies never had to exist
Where can you watch the rest of the show PLEASE LMK???!!!)
It only seems like the red oak stake can actually kill Hope for good. While the gods are indeed the strongest and oldest supernatural creatures in tvd universe. It seems like Ken doesn't really understand how natural only gives certain weaknesses to each supernatural creature.
Basically the show nerfed the gods like it did everything cause he was about to cut her head off and the writers ran away from it. The dude beat her so hard that she went to limbo. Which shows how close to death she was
Red oak ain't truly needed. But because the writers wanna avoid truly killing their favorite characters they avoid it.
3:07 Thor went back to Asgard
I think no humanity Hope would of put a better fight! Full tribid powers
The fake worry about Lizzie's injury. She's a vampire. It wasn't made of wood. She's fine. A few decades under her belt and she'd have gotten back up and walked it off.
I do like that this wasn’t just another easy fight for Hope but I do wish they would’ve let Hope get some hits in that actually did something. They made her look extremely weak here and she’s the only tribrid. They should’ve given her something, I do like that she lost but I don’t like they way she did. She looks so powerful and is the most powerful person in that entire school and maybe even TVD and TO universe, yet she did not land one single hit that did damage even if it was minimal.
Those hope lovers that got pissed at hope getting her ass handed to her, obv don't know good scripting. If hope were to beat everyone she came across, the whole show would be boring and pointless because we know just because she's a tribrid, she will always win. This scene was one of the best scenes because it finally shows someone who can kick her ass, she ain't invincible you know. 💀
she definitely didn’t use all of her power and I feel like she didn’t on purpose
Her magic is useless.
@@Kaisforeignadventures vampire and hybrid stuff, her magic isn’t useless though. She can still use it in herself and other objects. She can go invisible, she can pull things to her and use spells to increase strength, etc. For example when she looked at that sword I was hoping she was gonna use magic to pull it to her and maybe get up and stab him, then Ken defeat her.
@@7ynxzs377 She could do those things, but who knows what ken can do. He could probably see through her invisibility, out match her strength and who knows what else and vampire werewolve powers won't cut it at all.
Yes she just wanted to distract him so Lizzy can steal his power. I think
@@7ynxzs377 I think dark magic could have worked its way more powerful then regular magic. I think it would make it through his shield.
This scene is everything
Gone are the days when we thought originals, hybrid vampire werewolf witches and tribrid were the best of this TVDU😊
gods have been here all long for eternity 😂
They have always been the top dogs of this universe 😆🤗
he's also from H2O just add water. that makes 3 already in the tvd universe. after hope's mom Hayley and aunt Rebecca.
actually 4, lucien was in H2O too.
*Magic doesn’t work on a god*
Proceeds to use magic
Klaus vs Ken would be something tho unfortunately he would lose
klaus would die in one sec
well for me if all the remaining originals were to fight Ken they MIGHT stand a chance alittle or atleast knock him off his feet alittle. Although I would put Marcel and Hope infront since they're more durable. Although if we were to out all the modified originals like an enhanced original, upgraded original beast, original hybrid, and original tribrid. Then and only then can they actually might stand a better chance. But for now if we are going to use the remaining cast it would be marcel and hope.
@@ghostface2689 even marcel and hope still didn't have a chance at all against God
@@ghostface2689 Don’t think so, Dahlia really put them down before.
Yup vampires and other supernatural creatures for that matter are nothing compared to a God
Wait.. where are you guys getting these episodes from?? Not on telegram...
*this scene was underwhelming. hope didn’t even do much besides throw fire. the cw network & writers literally have no concept of having a character hold their own in a battle without them getting beaten to a pulp and yet hyping to them up to be an all powerful being*
Question, do I bold all ur msgs to make them pop out so more ppl read them? Bc if that’s the case truly worked, but I’m reading all 300 of these comments rn lol
Really hope legacies gets at least another 2 seasons
someone finally puts the triflop in her place. don’t get me wrong i like hope but she needed a stronger opponent like all the tvdu’s show had. can’t wait to see the hope stans try and back her up on this one 🤣🤣🤣
‘I like hope’ no you don’t lmao
girl it’s a God obviously she wouldn’t win against one, solos everyone else tho haha
@@bayleefairy8461 fr people acting up all of a sudden.
@@May-nu9iw awww someones mad i put their little triflop in their place
@@bayleefairy8461 finally a non toxic hope stan she’s ok but yall say she got downplayed no she didn’t she met her match 🤣🤣🤣
Imagine if the gods knew Klaus Mikaelson and his reputation.
I imagine that in their 1000's of years, tbey have seen worst things than Klaus, and probably won't blink.
What's Klaus compared to a god😂😂😂😂
I believe that the original vampires do not die by having their heads removed
Where did u get that evidence cause nobody in tvd has tried because they were never strong enough physically to fight them
Plus the writers stayed away from those methods
@@camgeorge6222 In every plot of tvd and to nobody has thought of killing an original by removing his head, then I guess it will be the same as being with the dagger
@@camgeorge6222 Damon tried.
@@7ynxzs377 when?
Where can i watch legacies
I love seeing them get beaten around we need more blood and violence legacies lacks action fight scenes 😂😂😂it needs this
YASSS! "I'm Klaus mikaelsons daughter"
If the gods were the creators of magic, couldn't they just take magic back that was stolen by Ben (Prometheus) from the mortal world? Therfore any magical being would lose their powers?
Plot twist that wasn’t his daughter it was Cleo.
Was there any other spells she could’ve done that would’ve work other than incendia? Just wondering
Probably not no, magic directly doesn’t affect the Gods. We are yet to see why tho.
@@Rev4mpz yes but she can affect the environment around her. Hope is beyond nature while the gods are still bound to it. So she had more potential to have cosmic lightning opposed to regular lightning like “Ken.”
Magic directly on Gods doesn’t work, but she could use her magic on anything without Gods power. She could of done things to ground under Ken or enhance her own strength and stuff
@@7ynxzs377 that’s exactly what I’ve been saying! Great thinking!
@@oceanicfiction Hope isn’t experienced enough to strategically do that, also she expected the fight to go down easily as she planned to distract him so Lizzie could siphon him. When it didn’t work she was surprised and weakened, she highly underestimated Ken.
From vampires, werewolves and witches to the Devil and gods? These people don't know when to stop
Hope did NOT use ALL of her TRIBRID powers. Thats why she got manhandled and beat like that. She might have lost the battle too with full Tribrid powers but at least not as harmed
Maybe she was losing this battle so she can win the war 🔥Some losses may look like losses but there could always be another motive. Now j don’t think this was one where she planned to be a lose win things but yeah. Think she didn’t want to expose her abilities bc it’s her only element of surprise. She needs too know Kens power, find a way to defeat him, then she can expose her abilities
Stop rationalizing girl got bodied hard. Only way for her to win is unless the writers decide to foolishly nerf the gods and wank off hope.
any link to download the episode?
THERE WAS LITERALLY A GOD FACING HOPE , like this had became a joke.💀