Moments like this is when I’m glad I like live theatre and not concerts. In a theatre, if you pull out your phone or talk too much, an old lady will supplex you
*sigh* Yet another instance in which I'm shocked that there are fans who *actually* act like this towards the celebs (ex. actors, authors, singers, sports players, etc.) they supposedly enjoy. Treating these artists like inhuman, animate attractions instead of with respect as people. Side note: I love your rainbow hair, very nicely blended. 💖🌈
It’s always upsetting to see an opener do their absolute best and do SO GOOD, and then notice that the pit is completely dead because they’re not there for them. Can you imagine the view of the performers?? Like the music is GOOD. At least nod your head!
oh my gosh, yes! The very first concert I ever went to was post-covid, and I absolutely ADORED the openers! But everyone else there was only interested in the main show, and it was so dead! Because it was my first show I didn't really know what to do and I didn't get to fully enjoy myself because everyone else was so dead. To add onto it, SO MANY PEOPLE left right after the main show ended, it was just so disrespectful, especially because both the openers and the closers were so amazing. Even if you don't know them you can still enjoy and vibe with the music, live music is amazing!!
From concert etiquette to global politics, your perspective is heartening and refreshing. The fact that your empathy drives you near-tears of frustration from other people's callousness makes me both smile and tear-up at the same time. Can't wait for the next video, peace and love.
I need people that go to k-pop concerts to go to other concerts, preferably rock concerts, cause MY GOD they're impossible. Also those stupid phones always up like PLEASE GOD PLEASE enjoy the concert you paid a pretty penny to come and see. The thing to throw stuff at artists is bonkers to me, cause usually you either ask security to pass something or you wimp-ly throw stuff as close as possible on the stage and pray they see it.
thank you so much!! also I understand completely why you'd avoid concert, I hope that they make them more accessible for people who can't cope with crowds because it truly is something I think everyone should experience at least once!
@@talistheintrovertI am thrilled ‘concert event in movie theaters’ are gaining popularity because those are certainly less overwhelming and more accessible for most humans. Alternately, I always extol the merits of catching smaller acts in rural or destination venues. If accessible, they are IME better because most everyone has had to travel there for that performance. Crowds are more invested and respectful of the artist.
thank you from dropping this education. people seem to have forgot to respect other people's experiences. also I really like your hair and makeup combo
In my teens a friend and I went to a metal/emo bands gig (I cant remember who) and she fainted in the mosh pit. She was crowd surfed to the front and the bouncer lifted her over the barrier
I'm a sensory avoidant autistic so I HATE concerts, but this is relevant even outside of concerts. People seem to act differently post covid in social settings, not being as respectful or cautious of boundaries.
oh my god i went to see wave to earth(a korean indie band) and it made me realize how wildly insane post covid kpop fans are at concerts. It was a small venue and i expected an indie rock crowd, but it was definitely the opposite. it was all standing and no one had any concept of giving people space and were just cramming to get to get a better spot. EVERYONE had their damn phone on the whole time and were SCREAMING(not singing) the lyrics the entire time. not to mention nearly everyone completely ignored the opener and were just queuing for merch while they performed. now i've been too basically every genre of concert(small punk shows, big stadium shows, actual kpop concerts, indie shows, etc) but this was the first time I genuinely had an awful time at a concert and it was so disappointing to see.
yes to all of this but especially loved your point about the pit at a rock/punk/metal concert being SO different than at a pop concert. hell my first concert was Social Distortion when i was 12 and that pit was anything but scary. i think a lot of it comes down to a lot of rock/metal fans go to concerts all the time, whereas a lot of the people at a pop concert are there for this one artist and don’t really do concerts at all outside of that one experience. which is fine, but it also really shows when they haven’t taken the time to learn how the hell to behave at a concert.
I also think that the mosh pit "tradition" at rock/metal concerts has a lot to do with it. For a mosh pit to be safe people NEED to respect the unwritten rules. -someone falls, you make space and pick them up. Make sure they are OK, before you go back in the pit. -No purposeful hitting with hard body parts. -follow the movements. -ETC. My partner has seen people being forcefully taken out of a mosh pit for being too violent and being kept out. Those crowds (now a day.....) Also tend to be older. So, more concerts experience, less youthful impulsivity. I personally feel safe being in a bikini top at rock/metal concerts... Not at pop concerts.
Agreed! I attended a Billie Eilish concert in 2021 and the concert etiquette was appalling. At one point she asked for a moment of silence for a friend of hers who had passed. During that time, multiple people called out things like “BILLIE I LOVE YOU” and “I LOVE YOU TOO”. It was incredibly disrespectful and disappointing. People also were flooding out by her last few songs. My worst concert experience by far.
I live in Québec City and we have the Festival d'été in July. It's 10 days of outdoor concerts and my birthday is ALWAYS in one of those 10 days. So I went a LOT. But artists have started to complain that people in the VIP section aren't listening and engaging! This baffles me!! The weekly standard passes are already expensive in my opinion and they pay VIP prices to chat and be on their phones! And half of the front stage is reserved for them! I saw Green day this summer and I loved it!
that's genuinely so baffling to me, it's like people want to spend the time proving they've been there on social media more than actually being there 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Note for anyone who hasn't been to a stadium concert before: yes it is appropriate to pull out your phone flashlight and sway it to the beat of a slow song if everyone else is doing it because people used to do that with lighters once upon a time. This doesn't give you license to put your strobe effect on between songs just for the hell of it; it's annoying and could give someone else a seizure. And to quote one of my favourite musicians, "it's not the size of the crowd that's in the gig, but the gig that's in the crowd." The best concert I've ever been to was in a half-full theatre (which was tiny to begin with) because everyone there was invested. I saw the same artist sell out the same theatre a year later and bomb because field trip teens talked through the whole show. A disinterested audience will ruin a concert no matter if there's 30 people or 3,000.
19:03 EXACTLY. I am involved in my local theatre. The amount of people on their phones is absolutely ASTOUNDING. Like, why pay MONEY to be at a place and then just... be on your phone? At that point you're just spending $15 to be on your phone. And that's at my local theatre. At concerts you're spending like, HUNDREDS to be on your phone. And for what??? Like, I get stuff comes up sometimes. If that happens - go outside, do what you need to, and come back.
I wanted to go to a concert this year but decided against it because of all the stories about bad behavior from concert crowds. This was a great video, love the hair and make up combo!!
I was on my first concert not very long ago as a 17 year old girl. It was a metal concert and I was really worried beforehand, but it was literally one of the greatest experiences of my life. The mosh pit opened right before me, and at first I thought that would scare the shit out of me and I wouldn't be able to enjoy the music anymore, but i think it made it better. I was never in the mosh pit and was never pushed into it by the people behind me, I just happily pushed the people already inside back in (so sweaty omg), and whenever somebody had to like tie their shoes or fell down, immediately two to four guys would form a wall around them to protect them while they got back up. It was really wholesome, and I never felt unsafe even once, I actually very much enjoyed the action. Seeing the people have fun while being a little rowdy and still respectful and caring towards all the others was so so refreshing to see. I don't know, just wanted to share that ♡
Also there exists one (1) video of the 4 hours (2 opener, 1 Main band) which is incredibly embarrassing because my sibling filmed me vibing to one of my favorite Songs 😭😭 i love that video to death and at the same time want to vanish forever of cringe 😭😭 besides that i took a few, really just a few, photos, but tried to enjoy the performances as best as I could without filming so much of it
I've actually been noticing worsened audience etiquette at classical concerts too. At all three concerts I've attended this season there have been groups of people who talked throughout the performance. And to some extent you can expect a few whispers during the music; some of these pieces are an hour long and it's not uncommon to bring young children. But this has been so much more. Full conversations or consistent spoken comments while the orchestra is playing. Plus it's a classical concert, there are no amps or speakers to carry the sound through the concert hall, just the instruments and architectural design. This makes it really easy for even the quietest of whispers to carry far and cover up the music. The symphony's website even mentions that the acoustics of the concert hall are so sensitive that the musicians on stage can hear you talking while they play. And because of how my brain works, it takes me a lot of energy and concentration to focus on music instead of words, and sometimes I feel like I've missed part of the concert because my brain ended up processing a conversation instead. Like you said, I really don't understand why people are paying to attend a concert where they aren't listening to the music.
the 'never thought youd get to see them' effect is SO REAL. Crywank was the best gig ive ever been to bc it was so clearly for the fans, like intimate venue, barely a setlist, call out your fav songs n we will play it bc we dont want anyone to miss out vibe. I remember when 12 year old girls at their first alt concert could throw themselves into a mosh pit and everyone would make sure they had a good time, and if anyone started looking queasy theyd be escorted to the sides for some water and let back in when they felt better. cant imagine that happening now!
Unfortunately my only concert experiences have been post Covid. Fortunately it was for Dreamcatcher both times and they have a mixed pop/rock crowd. The first time was in an arena and it was a great first concert for me. Second time was in a theatre and it was also good. The smaller location did let me notice some of the behavior you’re talking about. Several times when one of the women were talking on stage, someone in the crowd would interrupt them to yell that they love one of the members (usually not the one that was talking??? Which is another type of rude). Thankfully both times the phone usage was only moderate at worst from what I saw. I think part of that was because I know there’s a few DC fans who go to almost every concert exclusively to film it from decent angles. Most fan circles I know understand there’s no need to record the whole thing because someone else definitely is.
I saw Dreamcatcher live on their last tour. They were playing a floor only space and were so amazing live. Almost none of the issues Talis mentioned happened and I made some great friends. The only problems I had were the venue wouldn't let us make the full staff for our lightsticks and the girls even mentioned it but didn't know it was the venue. I had my full staff but had to take it apart and put it my bag. The other issue was 1 dude in front of me who was already very tall had a hat on which was not great I think most of the videos I took that night had his hat in it.
I'm relatively new to the concert world, at least on a semi-regular basis, so I really enjoyed hearing this take from someone who's been going to concerts for longer than I have! I am someone who records during concerts (mainly because I'm a Gen Z who has tbh an obsessive need to capture photos of videos of something cause I'm afraid of missing out on stuff, my phone storage hates me for this lol), but y'know what I also do? Scream and cry and show genuine excitement/support to who I'm paying sometimes a lot of money to see, especially with K-Pop concerts. Like I saw Twice on both of their recent tours and my footage is basically just me losing my mind in the background seeing my ult group in person. I do sometimes worry I'm being annoying to those around me, but I promise it's never intentional and purely just me experiencing fan hysteria in real time haha. I would never even consider throwing something at performers though, so the fact that people think that's "normal" is actually concerning. Also if an artist asks me to put my phone away, I'm gonna put it away without question. I went to a symphony concert for my fav anime One Piece back in July which had a firm "no recording or photos" rule, and as much as my band kid self mourned that I still respected their request. I'm not about to risk getting kicked out of a once in a lifetime experience cause of my dumb phone, and I still had an amazing time. After watching this though, I'm gonna try and be more conscious of this going forward! I have two concerts coming up in November so I'm now aiming to have my phone out less for those 😄
honestly, part of why Florence's concert was so impactful for me was because I didn't have my phone out and I almost HAD to absorb the moment more, it was an incredible experience!!
Totally agree with you on the whole topic. It's almost fascinating to me how people can be so out of touch. Like I get that different types of music also make a difference in the concert atmosphere, but the shit that's going down in recent concerts is unbelievable. As someone who has been to quit a lot of concerts/festivals for my age, I see it a lot in the crowd my age (20). I don't get why people go to concerts just to stand there and not move, not sing but just film it. Even better when they get pissed at you because your voice is on the recording. I will be at a concert soon so I will see how that goes. So much love to you and all the concert-enjoyer ❤
I, too, am saddened by the lack of empathy and compassion that exists now. Since the dawn of social media, we have become increasingly impatient and self-absorbed to the detriment of society, and I'd like it to stop now, please! Be nice. Be kind. Be helpful. Stop being a twat. ***Lovelovelove the hair and makeup ❤
I've only gone to very few concerts, mostly because issues with overstimulation. But what few I have been, even if I wasn't into all the acts or the music, it's such a magnetic experience to share with so many people. I feel like a concert is such a unique experience that I used to say that I'd probably enjoy going to just about any artist's concert. I've not been to even one concert after covid, but it disheartens me that we'd lose that powerful sense of shared resonance and vibrance in such a visceral vulnerable moment. Especially when it's caused by a lack of recognition in shared humanity. I'd hate to see artists as just commodities for me, and I'd hate even more to come to see my fellow crowd members as just a nuisance in the telling of my story. As always thank you so much for sharing your perspective. Your hair is incredible this video, I love the color choices, it makes me think of the crystalline rainbow metal, bismuth.
I think UA-cam should push this video because you are absolutely correct. People need to remember that everyone else around them is ALSO a person and treat them as such. In everything. Thank you for this video!
There's a podcast I watch on YT, the Chosen Family podcast, and one of the members is a comedian. And in the most recent video, she was talking about this experience she had with a heckler that went horribly. This talk of etiquette at shows reminds me of the story, because she was saying that people didn't seem to know how to act at shows and maybe that was the problem. So ig this isn’t just music concerts this happens at. I remember at the start of the internet, there was this talk of netiquette, how to act online. Now I feel like people take it for granted. They think they know, so they don't think about it, so they act however they want. Idk what it is, but that's what I imagine. So clearly we need to talk about it again, which is exactly what this video was, so thanks.
I saw Were Promised Jetpacks about 10yrs ago. Amazing, but during Its Thunder & It's Lightening 's guitar solo some idiots in the crowd wouldn't stop shouting. That song is a powerhouse of emotional turmoil. Because of those guys, the band stopped playing and walked off stage. They did not finish the show. Ever since then, I've felt more than before how to respect the artist I'm watching. And then this past year at Oneus, one of the members came out into the crowd, a person who had front row seats ran up to the back of the theater where I was sitting to get a selfie with the artist by shoving her self and her phone at him. Some people have always been terrible, but now they are just a bigger level of terrible and we can all film their behavior.
I’ve been seeing a bunch of videos about this topic and usually watch them but can’t really relate, most artists I go to are metal/hard rock/punk and I do feel there is a difference between the genres, before Covid I only went to metal concerts so I can’t really say anything about the difference between the pandemic and now for other genres, but generally not a lot has changed during most metal/hard rock concerts, which makes me hopeful. I went to go see Grandson this month (a friend asked me along) and the crowd was so nice to each other and supportive during the emotional moments, like people were hugging others that were crying during the song Heather Also your hair looks really cool,
This was * such * a good video (that I especially appreciate as an extremely minor artist who's been terrified of doing gigs in the 2020s). I have actually been livestreaming festival concerts this year, and even from the comfort of my own computer, I've been utterly shocked at the bad concert ettiquette I can see in the crowd. It really, really saddens me that artists are putting their hearts and souls into these shows, and so few people are appreciating them. Anywho, thank you so much for posting this one
Phones out at concerts and other events just boggles my mind. I want to experience the show with all my senses, not on a tiny screen. I'll occasionally get my phone out for a quick picture or video, but it's more about the attempt to capture the environment. Seeing all those little screens in front of the stage is just weird, because I feel like those people are so focused on some detail of the show that they're missing being in the moment. The synergy between performers and audience. While the occasional epic fancam moments happen, they are few and far between. I'm not going to waste a concert experience hunting for something so rare. And I know there will be excellent concert videos available soon enough for the memories 😃
The only concert I’ve gone to see had been Six the Musical (yes I know it’s a musical but it’s styled like a concert) which was amazing, the only song I recorded was Megasix (where they tell you beforehand to get up, get your phone out and film) Definitely coming back to that musical next year!
musical etiquette is definitely different, people are (usually) much better behaved, because theatre kids aren't afraid to attack strangers for ruining the performance lol
dude. it's so TRUE! i went to a concert where MANY people left right after the band they wanted to see had already played. it was a festival where asian bands came to BRAZIL to play. i was so sad when people simply just left right after their favorite band played, of course it was during intermission, but they payed SO MUCH just to watch one or two bands and then leave? like WHY?? anyway... I don't like concerts all that much, but if it's for a band i REALLY love, then i'll definitely go.
OMG THE HAIR I LOVE IT also i literally cannot comprehend how people can act like this (i also wanna add: on top of not getting how people treat celebrities, i maybe even more so don't fucking know how they're mean to minimum wage workers. like even if i'm having the worst moment of my life, and even if i had the bitchiest barista ever (not someone that just does their job like most of these incidents) i'd still just thank for the coffee and leave.)
@@talistheintrovertsame here 😊 I am digging through the trenches with UA-cam to be able to see smaller creators and you were one of them 😆 And I would just like to say thank you for recommending Cherry Magic 🍒 it was such a good watch
I don't really go to concerts any more (too many people, and too loud, and too dark); but I've seen Alestorm twice (once as support for Sabaton). The first time was a really fun mosh pit, and one time they even got the whole crowd sitting in lines doing the actions for Don't Rock the Boat.
There are really good points made in this video, and I'm sorry you went through the rough experiences that you did. The only thing I tend to disagree with is the point about filming concerts. "If you're just filming the entire concert, and, like, watching the concert down the lens of your phone, that's not experiencing a concert. Why are you here? To get points on TikTok? Fuck off." Not everyone that films concerts is ultimately doing it for TikTok clout, and not all of them mean to be disrespectful. Some people actually want to preserve the concert. I live in Abilene, Texas, USA, where as far as good concerts go, nothing ever happens - so when something finally does happen, like Blue October graces us with one great live performance (Paramount Theatre, 2/29/2024, it was great), it's worth catching it permanently. It might never happen again, so to have that recording and to have that video that you can watch over and you can re-experience it is actually really nice. You made a great point that no two live performances are alike, so that's just a natural development that comes out of that. People in the audience have been pointing video cameras at performers since at least the 1960s - silent fanmade Super 8 footage exists of the Beatles' 2/11/1964 Washington Coliseum concert. Maybe not everyone who films concerts is doing it for such a "noble" cause as preservation, but that's essentially what filming it is in the first place, and that's the purpose it serves. If you want to talk about being invested in a concert, filming the concert shouldn't be so grave a sin. THAT IS A FAN BEING INVESTED IN THE CONCERT ENOUGH TO WANT TO KEEP IT FOREVER AND SHARE IT WITH WHOEVER THEY WISH TO. I can get away with recording the concert, even when an artist (potentially) tells me to put my phone down because I'm still recording the sound with a Sony audio recorder. If you make me put THAT away, I will GO AWAY. Otherwise, this was a really great video!
that's an interesting perspective but you are in the minority. I do appreciate people who actually want to preserve events but I sincerely promise you that is not why most people have their phones out.
I'm saying this from my perspective as someone that got tired of waiting for friends to go to concerts with and decided to try going alone: I love Janelle Monae and I still had to leave early because I was trying something very uncomfortable and got super overstimulated by the event and feeling hyperaware of myself in public in that way. That's something that's influencing my opinion of your point on people leaving - I never really think about why they do, I just get out of there way. I also stopped recording at live shows cause I wanna just be in the moment and not care about how it'll look for social. I kind of thank being an elder millennial that I really don't care if I don't get more than a few clips, if that. I don't grow up with a cell so I'm not so attrached to recording my life
I respect an actual reason to leave, which is why at previous concerts when it's happened I haven't batted an eyelid. at this concert it was at least a quarter of the crowd, which is what was disrespectful. I do understand needing to remove yourself.
Not a concert thing but a “wtf people?? Did nobody teach you basic human decency??” thing: one of my favourite actors, Edvin Ryding (most well-known for playing Wilhelm in Young Royals), has literally had to tell people on social media to stop commenting on his physical appearance because people have full-on *bombarded* him with hate all because he cut his hair shorter and started growing a moustache (and then there’s *even more* people prying into his life all because he happened to mention that he’s in a relationship). He’s f-cking *20,* no wonder he’s experimenting with his hair, and even if he was older, did nobody teach some of these people “their body, their choice”?? So, yeah, in general my heart absolutely breaks for him, he deserves all the best and it truly sucks that some people are so, for lack of any better words, sh!t.
At the time of seeing this I have been 4 concerts all within the last year. All of them in then varying crowd sizes. In order from largest crowd size to smallest they were: Ghost and Amon Amarth, Styx, Mac Sabbth (with Playboy Manbaby and The Cybertronic Spree), and a local show with 5 local bands (Mio Min Mio, Or Does it Explode, RIOTNINE, Snag, and Boxing Day). The rowdiest crowd was Styx because it was a mostly older crowd reliving the 80s and it was on St. Paddy’s Day. Ghost everyone was very nice and respectful. Me and my friend didn’t have pit tickets but it looks fun and people weren’t crowding the front. There was even room at that concert for someone in the pit to propose to their girlfriend mid-concert. The crowd that was the least comfortable was the last one listed because as the night went on more and more people that were not familiar with the music and the type of people that go to small punk shows started showing up. Because of that and we knew the vibe was getting ruined me and my friend left before the final band started. You could just tell that the college sorority girls and frat boys were done with their party and came so we left. Every concert has had people on their phones phones and videoed here and there and I I’d as well. I filmed the most Ghost because I knew all the songs already and I needed proof I was there. The rest were small clips here and there as I wanted to relive the moment later. I could not imagine someone wanted to video the entire concert. I am grateful I haven’t been in a bad crowd yet but I know it will probably happen eventually but I will say I am glad for not liking pop music. I fell a lot of metal and punk crowds would not let people be disrespectful.
I’ve only ever been to one concert in my life and that was last year with QKWUEEN GEORGIA to see Little Mix. I had a fab time, loved the performances, loved the songs and the audience were actually great (maybe because it was a matinee and full of families with young kids). And even tho I had a fab time, I don’t think I’ll go to another concert, it just wasn’t my vibe (or affect hehe, I don’t think I used that word that you just taught me correctly there, oh well, oop). And I hear so many horror stories about concerts, it really shook me up about going the first time and puts me off wanting to go another in the future
9:50 speaking as aomeone w/o asthma, I just can't stand it whenever I'm out and I smell smoke from whether than be cigarette, vape, or even marijuana, and yes I've become so aware that I can actually distinguish the different smokes, I don't know if that's how you say it, like it annoys me so much, and sure with the marijuana, it has been approved to use I think recreationally, I think I don't really know for sure, but like can they at least do it where they aren't literally 2 steps away from where people are? 😅 I see stores that have signs stating that smoking within a certain distance isn't allowed but tell me why I see people out and about smoking 1. Literally 2 steps away from the doors or 2. Casually walking and smoking just letting all that second hand smoke be picked up from others around me because news-flash this isn't only for them, like this store isn't your personal store. And don't get me started on PARENTS that smoke yet...also, have small children? Like...?
This was a very fun video to watch for me because we have very similar stories. I have been going to concerts since I was 2. It was Johnny Cash which is cool but I'm sad I was too young to remember. We didn't take as many family vacations but we did go to concerts. As such I too have been to a lot of concerts of many genres and venues. I've been to heavy metal local concerts in bars to classical orchestra concerts to kpop concerts in stadiums. I have seen all of the behavior Talis mentioned at least once before and it's not fun to see. The classical concerts you get kicked out for bad behavior in the crowd same as a theater show. I personally don't do mosh pits because even if you don't fall you can get hurt especially, with how clumsy I am but I love the energy. I have noticed a bit of a change in crowd behavior since covid and that has been frustrating. Classic Rock concerts have pretty much remained the same before and after Covid probably because it is the same people lol, lots of pot smoking and dancing/ singing. Some modern Rock/ metal concerts I have had issues with cigarettes and vape smoke. I too have a bit of asthma and it can be very rough. I hadn't heard about that Pearl Jam concert issue before. Pearl Jam pre-covid was one of my absolute favorite concerts ever. Eddie did not want to leave the stage and the crowd was living for it. Before I get into the next part, I'm sorry Talis your Blackpink concert wasn't as fun because of the crowd. I went to kpop concerts before and after covid. And yes the phones is a real thing but not all of the kpop crowds/ crowds in general I've seen have phones up the whole time which is nice. At the Enhypen concert recently the crowd was pretty good at not having their phones up the whole time. I occasionally see a partner or a dad that clearly isn't a fan playing on their phone the whole time. This is isn't exclusive to kpop this happened at the Jonas Brothers concert I went to recently as well. Stray Kids concerts almost always have really chill/fun crowds I saw them 2 times before covid and 2 times after. I've only seen Seventeen once but they are masters at controlling a crowd and it is wonderful to see in person. When I am not at Kpop concerts I find I miss seeing the lightsticks in the crowd. The BTS after covid concerts felt really different than the ones I saw before covid. Specifically, I went to the fist 2 nights of the SoFi PTD concerts. The venue had only had 1 event before BTS (it's a new venue) and was not prepared for BTS. The fans were organizing themselves into lines and the staff didn't know what was happening. This also happened at The Boys, N.Flying and Oneus on a much smaller scale. But at the PTD concerts I was handing out freebies and the freebie I handed out changed based on when you started stanning BTS. I was surprised at the amount of fans I talked to that this was not only their first BTS concert but their first concert in general and many of the fans started stanning BTS during covid. But overall the vibe was different most of the crowd didn't know any of the fanchants whereas before covid most of them did. I don't think there were a lot of disrespectful fans there it was just notable that they were new and didn't know as much including how concerts worked in general. In contrast, my first BTS concert I was a month into stanning them I had listened to all of their music and learned at least the basic fanchant. Luckily the Twice concert at SoFi was much more organized. While I have seen some of the behavior from the video especially the squishing the barricade at some kpop concerts, on the other side some of the best experiences I've had at concerts have been at Kpop shows. Like my friend's photocard fell at Enhypen and someone raced after her to give it to her. I agree entirely that pop concerts are the least safe concerts I've been to especially for my ears which is why I have ear plugs specifically to protect my hearing and still be able to hear the concert. I will say that I think these concerts were also pretty unsafe pre-pandemic. I went to a lot of One Direction concerts and they've had stuff thrown at them since their first tour. Harry in particular has had so much thrown at him. On their first tour I saw videos of bras, tampons and even a didlo thrown at Harry (he was underage on that tour so extra gross). It's why he's so good at dodging stuff now but he shouldn't have to dodge stuff. I think the best concert I've seen where stuff was thrown on stage but not at the artists was NCT Dream. The fans threw hundreds of stuffed animals on stage and a fan gave Chenle a jersey of Stephan Curry his favorite basketball player. Jaemin was particularly adorable grabbing as many of the stuffies he could fit in his arms. I'd love to see more of that instead hitting artists with stuff. I could keep going with so many more examples but this post is long enough. I think covid made people forget etiquette of how to behave in public or for the younger ones made it so they didn't learn. If you're going to watch videos in public use headphones. Don't play on your phones at concerts or in movie theaters. Don't shout or scream when an artist is talking. And just don't be rude, a little kindness and understanding can go a long way. My favorite concert experiences regardless of the genre or venue have been when the crowd is fully embracing the music. At a classical concert that is sitting silently and respectfully at metal concerts that is mosh pits and head banging. At other concerts e.g. rock/pop/Kpop concerts that is dancing and singing along. You can record videos but don't record every song enjoy the experience of actually watching the show.
glad to hear Enhypen and Stray Kids were good vibes because those are probably the only two kpop concerts I'd consider going to, after my overall negative experience with Blackpink crowds, so that's a relief lol the BTS stuff makes a lot of sense too, even though it's a little frustrating concert etiquette has always been hit or miss, especially with pop artists like you said, but I think since covid it's been the increasing frequency that's the problem 🙏
@@talistheintrovert thank you for reading and replying to my message. If you get the chance I do highly recommend seeing Enhypen and Stray Kids. I didn't say this in my 1st message but I love your videos so much thank you for continuing to make these.
Not me watching this video and hear you say that stuff about loud TikToks on trains just as I was on a train and someone had an incredibly loud conversation on their phone via speakerphone. 💀 Agree with everything you've said about concerts btw. I've been to quite a few lately and the audience was so, disrespectful at some.
I’m attending my first concert in a few months and I’ve heard so much about the horrible concert etiquette i was a little nervous about it. I was also trying to look into how I should behave, since I’m mostly familiar with etiquette for live musical theater. Seems like the main rule is “don’t be a jerk,” and yet people still can’t seem to do that.
I went to my first concert after covid (Ricky Montgomery) and it was AMAZING. The vibes were great and the venue was small and intimate, but I had my phone recording for most of it. I hadnt been to a concert before and others were doing it so I did the same. I know for next time!
you know, it's a good thing you drank in the middle of the video bcs i honestly did not remember when i last drank water and that reminded me to drink honestly, i don't think i'd ever go to a concert bcs it's just way too loud for me and i don't like crowds, but i never got why people go to a concert and just got their phones out? watch the concert?? i took journalism in college and i was often the person handling the camera, it's such a different mindset and putting away your phone just adds into how much you enjoy the experience exponentially. also why. do people throw things. at the person. like cmon. would you want to have anything thrown into your face.
Love your videos calling out people's bad behaviour, its incredibly cathartic! Your "fandomfication of real people" videos have added at least a year to my lifespan. Also, love your hair its so pretty!
I'm in a play right now and this video was so relatable. You can definitely feel a change with the audience each night. Some crowds are great - they clap, laugh, and sometimes boo at the villians. Then you get some crowds that barely laugh or clap. They just stare and it does make it harder for the actors and crew to put on a great show. Please, if you're seeing live theater, try to be loud! (Respectfully and at the right moments, of course)
The main concerts I've been to have been Kpop in the past few years and it's gotten bad, what with people screaming when the idols are talking, someone smoking weed during a concert inside... I had two very negative experiences in New York venues, where in one it was standing room only and I could only see the top half of the idols because everyone was holding their phones up, and the other when ONE person decided to stand while everyone else was seated and it caused such a huge issue I had to climb over seats to get to another row so I could actually SEE the concert I paid for. People. Please. Have some respect for the artists and your fellow audience members!!
Love the hair. I agree whole heartedly, but not just gigs, went to the cinema, no one would shut up and torches going on all the time. On the train, crap music bleating, 3 people phone calls talking over each other. Random people are getting worse
I’ve been to only two concerts so far in my life ( pre-covid and both K-pop acts) at Big Top, Luna Park Sydney. Not sure what it’s like now, but they have a no phones/photography policy. Some people would risk it but the security were no-nonsense.
thinking about how at the last concert i went to, the opener was absolutely killer. they didn’t miss a beat and their energy was so good and so high the whole time. so obviously my brother and i were getting a little rowdy and dancing around. when they were over, some people around us were glaring at us? for dancing to the opener (while they were on their phones) and then the headliner came out and these same people just screamed the songs so loud that i could hear more of them than the actual band. and just yelling stuff like “MARRY ME” during quiet moments. smh
You'd think there was no need to make this video. Honestly, even if you have never ever been to a concert, what is respectful behavior should be innate. People old enough to go to a concert themselves should know better than to throw literal things at people and disrespect performers.
I haven't been to a big concert since I was like 14, but any small local shows I have seen in the last year were fine because it was all older crowds who've probably been going to shows longer than I've been alive. I've gone to concerts and shows of every other genre throughout my life, so concert ettiquette has never been something I haven't understood, so when the 2020s kicked off and people started going to shows when they started up again, I was very confused that not everyone understood how to behave? It just made sense to me and, forgive me, but I still feel like it's common sense to just... respect the people around you and not be a nuisance. The behaviour I see in videos and talked about in text posts about people at bigger shows shocks me and I find the disrespect people have towards opening bands is particularly disgusting. They act as if they don't matter because they aren't the "main show". I remember a while back seeing some people I follow on Tumblr talking about being at a Blind Channel show and there were some fans there who were there _solely_ for Blind Channel. Not in the normal way where you don't know the opening acts at a show but you respectfully watch their performance, no. These girls were just scrolling through their phones throughout all of the opening band's set... while _in the front row_. It's so disrespectful! And in this case, Blind Channel themselves have toured with and opened for _many_ other bands in their 10 years of making music and doing live shows -- these fans would surely go _BALLISTIC_ if they saw someone disrespecting them the way they were doing for the band that was touring with them (Lost Society, if I'm not mistaken, good tunes). Pretty sure they're _friends_ with the band that opened for them as well, imagine bringing a friend on tour with you and then seeing your own fans brush them off like that! I find it appalling. I haven't been to a big metal show in my life despite listening to many of its subgenres, but I can confidently say I would feel 100000000% safer in a mosh pit than I would at a Blackpink concert. Someone gave me and my mom AC/DC tickets when they couldn't go when I was like 14 and I was nearly crushed on accident by adults twice my size, but I find that preferable to what you described 💀💀💀💀 TLDR: If you're just there to watch one single band through your phone screen and blatantly ignore/disrespect the presence of everyone else (including the audience you are a part of), you might as well just stay at home.
that Blind Channel story is getting all too common, even just among kpop groups there are "fans" who ignore MEMBERS OF THE BAND THEY'RE THERE TO SEE over their faves and it's. frustrating.
I have never had many chances to go to concerts mostly because I cannot afford it but I really thought it is common sense to act respectful to others and the artist but I'm CLEARLY mistaken 🤦♀️ All the stories I hear of what's happening at the venues recently is just appaling. Like you mentioned, I firmly believe we collectively "forgot how to human" during the pandemic. I noticed it in my city particularly when it comes to driving and road behaviour. One example to illustrate this. There's this cultural event here that happens at church each Easter. Of course for almost 2 years it was a lockdown so people couldn't garher there. But after the lockdown was lifted, next Easter came. So the service at my local church was happening every 30 min. Most people of course drove by cars. The church has a car park BUT the road leading to it is very narrow, cars literally cannot pass both directions at the same time. All my life I've seen people navigating that road no problem. Everyone knew how to make way for each other, even if there was a lot of cars. But that time right after pandemic? HOLY SHIT. Everyone got STUCK because cars wanted to go at the same time from like 3 directions and one idiot BLOCKED the road and didn't want to move. It got so bad my father literally walked out of our car and started leading the traffic like a policeman would. Only that way we managed to escape that hellhole. And since then I see it happening all over. Traffics get a lot worse cause people copletely forgot road etiquette.
I remember a video from Wacken Open Air where the artist called for a wall of death and this person with her kid was like "oh, free space" and got immediately clocked by mosh pit goers/wall of death enjoyers and as the wall was starting immediately ran to her and they were like four or six people going to her and the child, warning her, allowing her to get the kid in her arms and they entirely secured the area around her etc. So yeah, etiquette in metal/rock music goes beyond your own safety. If you see total noobs who don't get the cues, you entirely educate them. Those people who helped had no jacket marking them as any kind of staff. They were just *there* and decided to forego their fun in a wall of death to make sure a person who looked like a mother with a child were safe and understood the cues and the rules. I remember myself going to mosh, holding my big chest to avoid hurting myself on my bra's metal wiring and people asking me if I was ok afterwards or offering to hold my glasses because they weren't going.
On the other side of that... I went to a the Weekend outdoor concert a few years back. It was a HOT day and there was a group of kids in the front stage area, clearly there with their older sister who probably wasn't older then 16. The youngest was probably 8 or 9.... No water bottles, barely any space to breath. At some point I flagged a security gard to bring them water cause they didn't look well, the sister gave me the stink eye as if I wasn't minding my own business! I was so anxious for them!!
10:50 I wish my sibling was able to process this 😪 I learned they vape and unfortunately they are one of those people who have a personality that "they know everything" "they know that already" 😔 so it doesn't matter how we go about it, they don't stop
Went to a MCR concert at the start of the year and as a long time mosh goer it was kinda weird? Like there were a lot of people in that pit that just didn't seem to get it. At one point this woman in front of me turned around to yell at everyone for being too close; she was in the middle of a mosh and literally hundreds of people behind her were pushing forward, none of us had a choice in how close we were. After that she proceeded to get mad at people for jumping during a song and "retaliate" by jumping on peoples feet, thrashing out of control, jumping out of time. Almost headbutted me due to jumping out of time. And far too much filming. I was in the centre of the pit and it was just a sea of phones. But on a positive, it was incredibly cool to see them light up instead of lighters for songs where it suited.
This was an interesting video to watch coming from someone who grew up, wasn't aware/a fan of basically all music artists, apart from my bestie Selena Gomez 🤭, poor. The only concert I went to during adoslescence was to Panic at the disco, and that was only because one of my friends back then said she was able to get tickets. (Experience overall was ruined though because even tho the artist did go to where we were like in the grassy area behind the seats, I didn't even realize until they were leaving because all I could focus on was on how horrible our area smelled because the people next to us snuck inside drugs and were actively using them 🤢) Then the only other concert I went to was to my first BTS concert in 2019 in Chicago, which btw I'm still like sad that BTS had their concert ON THE SAME DAY AS TXT showcase. Experience definitely was better there, I bought seated tickets kinda close to the edge. Altho I also have not so good memories because I had to spend EVERY DOLLAR I HAD because since i decided to not bring my sweatpants, and it didn't stop raining and we only had ponchos we brought with us, I had to buy ourselves hoodies from their merch stall OUT OF MY OWN ACCOUNT. Because my older brother decided it was a good idea to give HIS CREDIT CARD to my YOUNGER sibling going with me, they ended up maxing it out on the kightstick and keychain they got, that when we needed to use said credit card for a neccesity to keep warm, It didn't go thru! And that's basically it, I would have liked to go to TXT concert recently but the tickets were so expensive 😫
It's happening in the theatre too, especially musicals. You don't get people throwing things at the stage (as far as I know) but the phone use, illegal bootleggers, people talking, people singing along... to be clear, I know singing along is encouraged at concerts. It is not acceptable at musicals unless the cast in stage specifically ask the audience to participate. Oh and then there's the fights that start when those people are asked to stop their disrespectful behaviour. It's entitlement, plain and simple.
Yeah I’ve been to a few plays and musicals in the past year or two, and phones have been a huge issue. Probably at least half of them I’ve seen people either get on their phone/smart watch in the middle of the show or let their phone loudly ring in the theatre. One show probably had 3 separate people have their phones go off. Another had someone let their phone ring for like 10-15 seconds in the middle of what was supposed to be a quiet, poignant moment. It’s brutal.
I (short) got stuck behind two tall guys at a Sabaton show. Meh, can’t have a great view every time, c’est la vie. But as soon as they noticed me, they offered to let me in front of them so I could see better. Every concert attendee should aspire to be like those dudes - spatially aware and wanting those around you to enjoy the show as much as you are I wonder if social media vids of things being thrown onstage put the idea into way more people’s heads, leading to more doing it unsafely. And gave people who rarely attend concerts the impression it’s very common and normal (I’ve only seen it happen once), so they think the musician is prepared for it
Also, fellow asthmatic and I'm so tired of ppl acting like wanting to *breathe* makes us the rude ones. I didn’t choose to be asthmatic. You chose to vape. It’s your responsibility to be mindful of others, not theirs to move away or leave the event
THE VAPING‼️ YES‼️ Ugh! Where I live in the USA vaping indoors IS illegal and yet IT ALWAYS HAPPENS at shows, though, people smoking green pisses me off more because of how severely it triggers my asthma & the fact they legitimately could still have a fun time, and just take edibles when in such crowded spaces- we already have to deal with our asthma vs fog machines, smoke from pyro & just exertion, people being apathetic & smoking drives me nuts.
If i go to a show it's usually the rock/metal/punk ones where there's usually not too many problems, maybe someones too drunk or they talk through the music (which is sadly pretty common in my country idk why). However i recently learned the difference between young and old crowds. 2 weeks ago i went to a prog rock show of a band that has been active since the 70's. Their audience is on average genuinely like 60 years old and i myself am 22 lol. It was a very small venue, small crowd, just an intimate concert overall. Old people are so respectful and appreciative. No one is trying to gain attention from the artists, they listen when the artists speak, barely anyone was filming and when there were 2 people talking too loud everyone started shushing and the people went outside for a while??? Because that's the normal thing to do??? If you'd shush a young person you'd probably get a shitty attitude back bc 'you don't tell me what to do'.
Augh this just reminded me of my first ever concert experience (A.C.E in 2018). The actual concert was incredible but waiting in line was HORRID bcs not only was it cold, but the people in front of me in line would not stop badmouthing others. They kept saying things like "the people here are all teeny boppers they don't really care abt A.C.E. etc etc" like. TOUCH GRASS!!
It's so weird to me that people make the choice to go to a concert with tickets that are expensive and then proceed to do something else during the concert ? You can just listen to music at home if you're going to do that !! It's kinda baffling. Also I really love the hair, It's very cute !!
I love concerts and go to several a year usually. I think most people are still aware of how to act at shows. But also people have been throwing shit on stages and acting like fools at concerts for a longggg time. It’s not new, it’s just getting more attention now. I also personally believe that genre does matter. I go to bonnaroo and the crowds for rappers are way worse than most of the R&B or pop artist crowds. But at Korn this year I heard someone broke a leg and was left on the ground in the pit so metal crowds aren’t always great either. It just depends a lot on the crowd, the artist and the overall vibe of the venue.
I'm glad you've had mostly good experiences! however to say it's not getting worse is just not true. things have always been bad, as I said, but they ARE getting worse
@@talistheintrovert I think that’s fair to say but I have to wonder if the statistics back that up or if it’s just subjective experiences. I totally agree that phone behavior at concerts has gotten worse though and it’s the most annoying thing ever.
My sister and father went to a concert yesterday and she was sat next to a person who was up and down getting wine and dancing in her seat. Which is not a bad thing of course. Unless of course you drive your elbow into someones head and apologise only to resume the dancing in the same way that lead to a jarring
it does not shock me that there were people chain vaping at a blackpink concert, i've been in the blackpink fandom for a minute and it's more about proximity to fame and the girls than any actual artistic connection, they want to be there to be doing something they can post
I expect some artists will just set theatre rules for their performances, at the least enact ‘no phones until X song’ policies. Break the rules and you forfeit your seat/spot and are escorted to the rafters or outside. Alternately have a ‘phones out’ area for people who can’t put their phones away, in the 75-90° range of center stage. No one gets forced into that seating so if you want better seats you have to comply with event rules. Perhaps the rafter seats can also have an acoustic buffer suspended between them and the rest of the event? Is that extreme? Yes, but so is their audacity. I’ve attended many ‘can’t see the artist from ADA seating’ because everyone in front of the area has their phones out above their heads.
i feel that i got lucky at the concert i went to, went to an ed sheeran concert a couple months ago and surprisingly the etiquette was alright, one person threw a phone on the stage but it wasn’t extreme, i always fear something bad will happen at these concerts, people have 0 respect for the artists sadly :(
I take my kid to every K-pop group that comes to town. It’s our thing and we have a whole routine (show up early if you want merch, hang out and make friends in the line. Do NOT get into fights with idiot fans who think they are going to marry one of the idols…) she does tend to film her favorite songs, but we don’t scream and the camera is down, not held up high. I have seen medical need to carry people out of the pit at every concert with a GA audience. I have seen police have to (quietly) deal with insane fans at Most concerts. Heck I take her to meet and greets and the stupidity of the fans there is bonkers. She has started saying she doesn’t want to go to certain concerts because of the fans…and that is sad. These are professional performers/artists who are amazing and fun to watch, but the level of delulu is off the charts.
I went to a Mäneskin concert earlier this year, and I was right in front of the stage (tho the area where we couldnt see much) and really the worst thing I experienced was some drunk as balls couple making out right in front of me. This was my first concert ever, and generally it was a good experience, so I'm very happy about that. Especially because of a video I saw right beforehand, that talked about the awful concert experience nowadays I dont know where I'm going with this tbh... but yeah, have my thoughts lol
People making out at concerts is very common. It always has been and always will be. It can be uncomfortable but its not against concert etiquette to make out heavily with your partner at one
@@monsterglacier Ohh okay Personally I'm not very a PDA person, so I was kinda uncomfortable standing behind them... tho I think the main issue was that they were originally behind us, then shoved their way from behind me... Idk, as I said, it wasnt the end of the world, I was able to ignore them luckily
1: i fear the day i encounter a concert with as nasty a crowd as these. Ive been very lucky with the few ive been to i think. The worst ive seen is people not respecting the ADA section post covid at a Dorian Electra concert(which i sit in) and standing in front of myself and others who CANT SEE OVER THEM??? But ive never seen shit like this. 2: pretty hair!!! Love it. Also that shirt where did u get it? 3: I went to a Mystery Skulls concert recently and it was great! Even when my disability flared really badly, the staff were so helpful and i was able to get back in right before the first song and it didnt fuck up anymore! The phone phenomena was still a thing which is always irritating, but at the very end of Mystery Skulls set they played Ghost, and like. We sang as a crowd. Singer had his mic off mostly, guided us a little bit to make sure we hit beats, but on GOD we didnt need it it was Spiritual in how we all knew and felt the music. Thats what i go to these for. It took a week to recover from sitting upright, but id do it all again just for those few minutes of unity. I wish i could share it with you all. Had me crying my makeup off lol. Just wanted to share a good post covid concert experience. It was really beautiful. 4: thank youuuuu for all these music recommendations i either forgot about or didnt know Dev Lemons is right up my alley fr
The vaping at concerts is ssooooo annoying! I have bad ADHD, and having a large cloud of steam coming out of a person standing next to me constantly distracts me from the concert. Same with people who talk non-stop or sing louder than the artist, off-key, of course. It's gotten to the point that I don't go to festival shows anymore, because it always feels like half the people aren't there for the festival vibes and don't give a shit about the artist.
I'm one of the people for whom a concert is an exception reserved for favourite musical artists, so so far I've been to.. one. Nothing quite like thinking, hey, I wonder if the x artists ever did concerts in Poland and finding out that actually, yeah in the spring there will be one, and oh you just met a friend that likes concerts and now likes Faun too cause you introduced it to her. Happy to say the worst I got was someone enthusiastically whipping their hair around (and at me behind them). The phones were down, only occasional ones up to get some photos to remember. Extra bonus, I got to buy a CD >:D. Only because of how much money I had did I not buy anything else, welp. Also, so sorry for the vaping indoors... ugh. Everewhere here where there were no smoking signs, now they include vaping too which I am definitely glad for.. hoping it changes in your place to include vaping too
This video is amazing - you go girl and tell them off. I am sorry that your concert experiences have been so less than. I just went to 2 concerts here is Columbus Ohio USA and they were both breathtaking and amazing and the audience was not anything like what you talked about. Saw Eric Nam (Korean American singer) Oct. 12th and The Rose (Korean band) on Oct 26th. So there are good audiences at concerts at some places in the world. (Yeah, big Kpop fan - I would die a happy woman if I get to see BTS just once before I die so I can't die before 2025 😊) I also struggle with Fibromyalgia - ain't it a bitch. And last, it's your You Tube site you can give your opinion on the world if you want to. You spoke the truth. Don't need to apologize.
I would die to see The Rose, but not in crowds like there have been lately. I love BTS but I'd never go to one of their concerts for that exact reason 😭 bigger crowds and scarier sasaengs 😬
Ugh, yes to every word. I do definitely think there’s something to be said about autistic and adhd people unmasking during Covid (myself being one of them) and therefore getting distracted easier - and also those like you and I with chronic pain who struggle with even sitting for long periods of time, and I worry one day about someone judging me if I fidget etc HOWEVER despite me being a prime candidate for ‘reasonable allowance’ shall we say for not staying rock still, or having the energy to fully participate - I am so, SO aware that I, and others am there and have paid money, maybe have waited their whole lives for this experience - and to therefore NOT ACT LIKE A DICK. And the behaviour you’re talking about is entitled assholes who if they think it’s ok to openly disrespect an artist to their face, probably have no issue with being a bully online.. and that GETS ON MY LAST DAMN NERVE SO MUCH. And these assholes probably don’t realise how distracting their behaviour is to neurodivergent people who are struggling to concentrate for that long as it is, so keep getting pulled out of the experience! It’s not all about you! The selfishness drives me nuts. Someone kept replying to messages whilst I was watching Hamilton. HAMILTON. Renowned for its expensive seats. And it’s a deep fucking show. And I was so lucky to get the price I did, but it still wasn’t cheap. And every time that phone screen lit up, it pulled me out and I had the worst experience. They didn’t even try and cover it or turn the brightness down or think hey maybe.. if something is this important that I’m distracting hundreds of people around me - we were sat at the front of the 1st level - maybe I should leave and attend to that issue. Because either I’ve seen it enough times and don’t need to pay attention and or if I’m looking at my phone for THAT long, and not the show, I clearly don’t care, or I can probably afford to see it again. It really impacted me and pissed me off because this same person was just very loudly talking too, and if you know Hamilton… you just don’t do that. Anyway. 100% agree. People suck. And the people who are most physically incapable of staying in control of being distracted, etc are so worried we are ruining it for everyone else that we end up probably being more still and self aware than anyone else 😅
Moments like this is when I’m glad I like live theatre and not concerts. In a theatre, if you pull out your phone or talk too much, an old lady will supplex you
AS SHE SHOULD 👏👏👏
This just reminded me of Lauren Boebert getting kicked out of theatre for smoking and making out lmaooooo
One of the best moments of 2023
*sigh* Yet another instance in which I'm shocked that there are fans who *actually* act like this towards the celebs (ex. actors, authors, singers, sports players, etc.) they supposedly enjoy. Treating these artists like inhuman, animate attractions instead of with respect as people.
Side note: I love your rainbow hair, very nicely blended. 💖🌈
I know, it's so disappointing.
and thank you, that's so kind! 🥰
It’s always upsetting to see an opener do their absolute best and do SO GOOD, and then notice that the pit is completely dead because they’re not there for them. Can you imagine the view of the performers?? Like the music is GOOD. At least nod your head!
EXACTLYYYYY 👏👏👏
oh my gosh, yes! The very first concert I ever went to was post-covid, and I absolutely ADORED the openers! But everyone else there was only interested in the main show, and it was so dead! Because it was my first show I didn't really know what to do and I didn't get to fully enjoy myself because everyone else was so dead. To add onto it, SO MANY PEOPLE left right after the main show ended, it was just so disrespectful, especially because both the openers and the closers were so amazing. Even if you don't know them you can still enjoy and vibe with the music, live music is amazing!!
@@alinamatias1122 THIS. A third of the audience didn’t even show up until the main band came on.
From concert etiquette to global politics, your perspective is heartening and refreshing. The fact that your empathy drives you near-tears of frustration from other people's callousness makes me both smile and tear-up at the same time.
Can't wait for the next video, peace and love.
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I need people that go to k-pop concerts to go to other concerts, preferably rock concerts, cause MY GOD they're impossible. Also those stupid phones always up like PLEASE GOD PLEASE enjoy the concert you paid a pretty penny to come and see.
The thing to throw stuff at artists is bonkers to me, cause usually you either ask security to pass something or you wimp-ly throw stuff as close as possible on the stage and pray they see it.
LITCHERALLYYY 👏👏👏
I hate loud sounds and big crowds, so I would never go to a concert, but This was still an entertaining video for me. Also, Your hair looks amazing
thank you so much!! also I understand completely why you'd avoid concert, I hope that they make them more accessible for people who can't cope with crowds because it truly is something I think everyone should experience at least once!
@@talistheintrovertI am thrilled ‘concert event in movie theaters’ are gaining popularity because those are certainly less overwhelming and more accessible for most humans. Alternately, I always extol the merits of catching smaller acts in rural or destination venues. If accessible, they are IME better because most everyone has had to travel there for that performance. Crowds are more invested and respectful of the artist.
thank you from dropping this education. people seem to have forgot to respect other people's experiences. also I really like your hair and makeup combo
thank you!! 🥰🥰
you're welcome ☺@@talistheintrovert
In my teens a friend and I went to a metal/emo bands gig (I cant remember who) and she fainted in the mosh pit. She was crowd surfed to the front and the bouncer lifted her over the barrier
we love to see it!! 👏👏👏
I'm a sensory avoidant autistic so I HATE concerts, but this is relevant even outside of concerts. People seem to act differently post covid in social settings, not being as respectful or cautious of boundaries.
exactlyyyy 👏👏👏
oh my god i went to see wave to earth(a korean indie band) and it made me realize how wildly insane post covid kpop fans are at concerts. It was a small venue and i expected an indie rock crowd, but it was definitely the opposite. it was all standing and no one had any concept of giving people space and were just cramming to get to get a better spot. EVERYONE had their damn phone on the whole time and were SCREAMING(not singing) the lyrics the entire time. not to mention nearly everyone completely ignored the opener and were just queuing for merch while they performed. now i've been too basically every genre of concert(small punk shows, big stadium shows, actual kpop concerts, indie shows, etc) but this was the first time I genuinely had an awful time at a concert and it was so disappointing to see.
oof I'm so sorry, that massively sucks. I hope your next experience is a little better 🤞🤞
yes to all of this but especially loved your point about the pit at a rock/punk/metal concert being SO different than at a pop concert. hell my first concert was Social Distortion when i was 12 and that pit was anything but scary. i think a lot of it comes down to a lot of rock/metal fans go to concerts all the time, whereas a lot of the people at a pop concert are there for this one artist and don’t really do concerts at all outside of that one experience. which is fine, but it also really shows when they haven’t taken the time to learn how the hell to behave at a concert.
EXACTLYYYY 👏👏
I also think that the mosh pit "tradition" at rock/metal concerts has a lot to do with it. For a mosh pit to be safe people NEED to respect the unwritten rules.
-someone falls, you make space and pick them up. Make sure they are OK, before you go back in the pit.
-No purposeful hitting with hard body parts.
-follow the movements.
-ETC.
My partner has seen people being forcefully taken out of a mosh pit for being too violent and being kept out.
Those crowds (now a day.....) Also tend to be older. So, more concerts experience, less youthful impulsivity. I personally feel safe being in a bikini top at rock/metal concerts... Not at pop concerts.
THIS!!!!
Agreed! I attended a Billie Eilish concert in 2021 and the concert etiquette was appalling. At one point she asked for a moment of silence for a friend of hers who had passed. During that time, multiple people called out things like “BILLIE I LOVE YOU” and “I LOVE YOU TOO”. It was incredibly disrespectful and disappointing. People also were flooding out by her last few songs. My worst concert experience by far.
that's awful oh my god 😬
I remember when you weren't allowed to take pictures or videos at a concert. Security used to kick people out for that.
LOVE your hair!
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Concerts today make those fanfics of the self insert reading a book in the crowd look even more unbelievable
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I live in Québec City and we have the Festival d'été in July. It's 10 days of outdoor concerts and my birthday is ALWAYS in one of those 10 days. So I went a LOT. But artists have started to complain that people in the VIP section aren't listening and engaging!
This baffles me!! The weekly standard passes are already expensive in my opinion and they pay VIP prices to chat and be on their phones! And half of the front stage is reserved for them!
I saw Green day this summer and I loved it!
that's genuinely so baffling to me, it's like people want to spend the time proving they've been there on social media more than actually being there 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Note for anyone who hasn't been to a stadium concert before: yes it is appropriate to pull out your phone flashlight and sway it to the beat of a slow song if everyone else is doing it because people used to do that with lighters once upon a time. This doesn't give you license to put your strobe effect on between songs just for the hell of it; it's annoying and could give someone else a seizure.
And to quote one of my favourite musicians, "it's not the size of the crowd that's in the gig, but the gig that's in the crowd." The best concert I've ever been to was in a half-full theatre (which was tiny to begin with) because everyone there was invested. I saw the same artist sell out the same theatre a year later and bomb because field trip teens talked through the whole show. A disinterested audience will ruin a concert no matter if there's 30 people or 3,000.
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19:03 EXACTLY. I am involved in my local theatre. The amount of people on their phones is absolutely ASTOUNDING. Like, why pay MONEY to be at a place and then just... be on your phone? At that point you're just spending $15 to be on your phone. And that's at my local theatre. At concerts you're spending like, HUNDREDS to be on your phone. And for what??? Like, I get stuff comes up sometimes. If that happens - go outside, do what you need to, and come back.
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I wanted to go to a concert this year but decided against it because of all the stories about bad behavior from concert crowds. This was a great video, love the hair and make up combo!!
thank you! and I'm sorry you were turned off attending a show, I hope things improve soon 💛
Some people weren't yelled at in school for being obviously neurodivergents until they had to reverse engineer social laws and it shows.
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I was on my first concert not very long ago as a 17 year old girl. It was a metal concert and I was really worried beforehand, but it was literally one of the greatest experiences of my life. The mosh pit opened right before me, and at first I thought that would scare the shit out of me and I wouldn't be able to enjoy the music anymore, but i think it made it better. I was never in the mosh pit and was never pushed into it by the people behind me, I just happily pushed the people already inside back in (so sweaty omg), and whenever somebody had to like tie their shoes or fell down, immediately two to four guys would form a wall around them to protect them while they got back up. It was really wholesome, and I never felt unsafe even once, I actually very much enjoyed the action. Seeing the people have fun while being a little rowdy and still respectful and caring towards all the others was so so refreshing to see.
I don't know, just wanted to share that ♡
Also there exists one (1) video of the 4 hours (2 opener, 1 Main band) which is incredibly embarrassing because my sibling filmed me vibing to one of my favorite Songs 😭😭 i love that video to death and at the same time want to vanish forever of cringe 😭😭 besides that i took a few, really just a few, photos, but tried to enjoy the performances as best as I could without filming so much of it
I've actually been noticing worsened audience etiquette at classical concerts too. At all three concerts I've attended this season there have been groups of people who talked throughout the performance. And to some extent you can expect a few whispers during the music; some of these pieces are an hour long and it's not uncommon to bring young children. But this has been so much more. Full conversations or consistent spoken comments while the orchestra is playing. Plus it's a classical concert, there are no amps or speakers to carry the sound through the concert hall, just the instruments and architectural design. This makes it really easy for even the quietest of whispers to carry far and cover up the music. The symphony's website even mentions that the acoustics of the concert hall are so sensitive that the musicians on stage can hear you talking while they play. And because of how my brain works, it takes me a lot of energy and concentration to focus on music instead of words, and sometimes I feel like I've missed part of the concert because my brain ended up processing a conversation instead. Like you said, I really don't understand why people are paying to attend a concert where they aren't listening to the music.
that's dreadful!! I'm sorry people are ruining the experience for you 💜
the 'never thought youd get to see them' effect is SO REAL. Crywank was the best gig ive ever been to bc it was so clearly for the fans, like intimate venue, barely a setlist, call out your fav songs n we will play it bc we dont want anyone to miss out vibe.
I remember when 12 year old girls at their first alt concert could throw themselves into a mosh pit and everyone would make sure they had a good time, and if anyone started looking queasy theyd be escorted to the sides for some water and let back in when they felt better. cant imagine that happening now!
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Unfortunately my only concert experiences have been post Covid. Fortunately it was for Dreamcatcher both times and they have a mixed pop/rock crowd. The first time was in an arena and it was a great first concert for me. Second time was in a theatre and it was also good. The smaller location did let me notice some of the behavior you’re talking about. Several times when one of the women were talking on stage, someone in the crowd would interrupt them to yell that they love one of the members (usually not the one that was talking??? Which is another type of rude). Thankfully both times the phone usage was only moderate at worst from what I saw. I think part of that was because I know there’s a few DC fans who go to almost every concert exclusively to film it from decent angles. Most fan circles I know understand there’s no need to record the whole thing because someone else definitely is.
that's wonderful to hear! at least there are still experiences like that 🥰
I saw Dreamcatcher live on their last tour. They were playing a floor only space and were so amazing live. Almost none of the issues Talis mentioned happened and I made some great friends. The only problems I had were the venue wouldn't let us make the full staff for our lightsticks and the girls even mentioned it but didn't know it was the venue. I had my full staff but had to take it apart and put it my bag. The other issue was 1 dude in front of me who was already very tall had a hat on which was not great I think most of the videos I took that night had his hat in it.
I'm relatively new to the concert world, at least on a semi-regular basis, so I really enjoyed hearing this take from someone who's been going to concerts for longer than I have! I am someone who records during concerts (mainly because I'm a Gen Z who has tbh an obsessive need to capture photos of videos of something cause I'm afraid of missing out on stuff, my phone storage hates me for this lol), but y'know what I also do? Scream and cry and show genuine excitement/support to who I'm paying sometimes a lot of money to see, especially with K-Pop concerts. Like I saw Twice on both of their recent tours and my footage is basically just me losing my mind in the background seeing my ult group in person. I do sometimes worry I'm being annoying to those around me, but I promise it's never intentional and purely just me experiencing fan hysteria in real time haha.
I would never even consider throwing something at performers though, so the fact that people think that's "normal" is actually concerning. Also if an artist asks me to put my phone away, I'm gonna put it away without question. I went to a symphony concert for my fav anime One Piece back in July which had a firm "no recording or photos" rule, and as much as my band kid self mourned that I still respected their request. I'm not about to risk getting kicked out of a once in a lifetime experience cause of my dumb phone, and I still had an amazing time. After watching this though, I'm gonna try and be more conscious of this going forward! I have two concerts coming up in November so I'm now aiming to have my phone out less for those 😄
honestly, part of why Florence's concert was so impactful for me was because I didn't have my phone out and I almost HAD to absorb the moment more, it was an incredible experience!!
Totally agree with you on the whole topic. It's almost fascinating to me how people can be so out of touch. Like I get that different types of music also make a difference in the concert atmosphere, but the shit that's going down in recent concerts is unbelievable. As someone who has been to quit a lot of concerts/festivals for my age, I see it a lot in the crowd my age (20). I don't get why people go to concerts just to stand there and not move, not sing but just film it. Even better when they get pissed at you because your voice is on the recording.
I will be at a concert soon so I will see how that goes.
So much love to you and all the concert-enjoyer ❤
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I, too, am saddened by the lack of empathy and compassion that exists now. Since the dawn of social media, we have become increasingly impatient and self-absorbed to the detriment of society, and I'd like it to stop now, please! Be nice. Be kind. Be helpful. Stop being a twat. ***Lovelovelove the hair and makeup ❤
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I've only gone to very few concerts, mostly because issues with overstimulation. But what few I have been, even if I wasn't into all the acts or the music, it's such a magnetic experience to share with so many people. I feel like a concert is such a unique experience that I used to say that I'd probably enjoy going to just about any artist's concert. I've not been to even one concert after covid, but it disheartens me that we'd lose that powerful sense of shared resonance and vibrance in such a visceral vulnerable moment. Especially when it's caused by a lack of recognition in shared humanity. I'd hate to see artists as just commodities for me, and I'd hate even more to come to see my fellow crowd members as just a nuisance in the telling of my story. As always thank you so much for sharing your perspective.
Your hair is incredible this video, I love the color choices, it makes me think of the crystalline rainbow metal, bismuth.
that's so kind, thank you!! 🥰🥰
I think UA-cam should push this video because you are absolutely correct. People need to remember that everyone else around them is ALSO a person and treat them as such. In everything. Thank you for this video!
that's kind, thank you!! 💜
I love your Star Trek avatar! I like the colour scheme, too - is that the asexual flag?
@@Citrine-K Thank you so much! It is! No one's picked up on that before!
@@Spartacus005 Awesome! I'm also asexual and self-identify as a Trekkie. Live long and prosper! 🖖
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There's a podcast I watch on YT, the Chosen Family podcast, and one of the members is a comedian. And in the most recent video, she was talking about this experience she had with a heckler that went horribly. This talk of etiquette at shows reminds me of the story, because she was saying that people didn't seem to know how to act at shows and maybe that was the problem. So ig this isn’t just music concerts this happens at.
I remember at the start of the internet, there was this talk of netiquette, how to act online. Now I feel like people take it for granted. They think they know, so they don't think about it, so they act however they want. Idk what it is, but that's what I imagine. So clearly we need to talk about it again, which is exactly what this video was, so thanks.
I saw Were Promised Jetpacks about 10yrs ago. Amazing, but during Its Thunder & It's Lightening 's guitar solo some idiots in the crowd wouldn't stop shouting. That song is a powerhouse of emotional turmoil. Because of those guys, the band stopped playing and walked off stage. They did not finish the show. Ever since then, I've felt more than before how to respect the artist I'm watching.
And then this past year at Oneus, one of the members came out into the crowd, a person who had front row seats ran up to the back of the theater where I was sitting to get a selfie with the artist by shoving her self and her phone at him.
Some people have always been terrible, but now they are just a bigger level of terrible and we can all film their behavior.
god, the entitlement of it all, it's so exhausting 😭😭
I’ve been seeing a bunch of videos about this topic and usually watch them but can’t really relate, most artists I go to are metal/hard rock/punk and I do feel there is a difference between the genres, before Covid I only went to metal concerts so I can’t really say anything about the difference between the pandemic and now for other genres, but generally not a lot has changed during most metal/hard rock concerts, which makes me hopeful. I went to go see Grandson this month (a friend asked me along) and the crowd was so nice to each other and supportive during the emotional moments, like people were hugging others that were crying during the song Heather
Also your hair looks really cool,
that's positive at least!! and thank you!! 🥰🥰
This was * such * a good video (that I especially appreciate as an extremely minor artist who's been terrified of doing gigs in the 2020s). I have actually been livestreaming festival concerts this year, and even from the comfort of my own computer, I've been utterly shocked at the bad concert ettiquette I can see in the crowd. It really, really saddens me that artists are putting their hearts and souls into these shows, and so few people are appreciating them.
Anywho, thank you so much for posting this one
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Phones out at concerts and other events just boggles my mind. I want to experience the show with all my senses, not on a tiny screen. I'll occasionally get my phone out for a quick picture or video, but it's more about the attempt to capture the environment. Seeing all those little screens in front of the stage is just weird, because I feel like those people are so focused on some detail of the show that they're missing being in the moment. The synergy between performers and audience. While the occasional epic fancam moments happen, they are few and far between. I'm not going to waste a concert experience hunting for something so rare. And I know there will be excellent concert videos available soon enough for the memories 😃
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The only concert I’ve gone to see had been Six the Musical (yes I know it’s a musical but it’s styled like a concert) which was amazing, the only song I recorded was Megasix (where they tell you beforehand to get up, get your phone out and film)
Definitely coming back to that musical next year!
musical etiquette is definitely different, people are (usually) much better behaved, because theatre kids aren't afraid to attack strangers for ruining the performance lol
dude. it's so TRUE! i went to a concert where MANY people left right after the band they wanted to see had already played. it was a festival where asian bands came to BRAZIL to play. i was so sad when people simply just left right after their favorite band played, of course it was during intermission, but they payed SO MUCH just to watch one or two bands and then leave? like WHY?? anyway... I don't like concerts all that much, but if it's for a band i REALLY love, then i'll definitely go.
that's so sad!! I don't know why anybody would behave that way
Thank you for touching on the subject of vaping! More young people need to know about the harmful side effects of vaping (and second-hand vapors).
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SO happy a pic of me has made it into one of your vids 🥺 honestly MCR was the best concert experience I've ever had all round
love youuuuu 🥺🥺🥺 it truly was incredible
OMG THE HAIR I LOVE IT
also i literally cannot comprehend how people can act like this
(i also wanna add: on top of not getting how people treat celebrities, i maybe even more so don't fucking know how they're mean to minimum wage workers. like even if i'm having the worst moment of my life, and even if i had the bitchiest barista ever (not someone that just does their job like most of these incidents) i'd still just thank for the coffee and leave.)
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My first vid from u was the 100 bls vid and ever since I've been addicted to ur videos tysm for making them
this is so wonderful to hear, thank you!! 🥺🥺
@@talistheintrovertsame here 😊 I am digging through the trenches with UA-cam to be able to see smaller creators and you were one of them 😆 And I would just like to say thank you for recommending Cherry Magic 🍒 it was such a good watch
I don't really go to concerts any more (too many people, and too loud, and too dark); but I've seen Alestorm twice (once as support for Sabaton). The first time was a really fun mosh pit, and one time they even got the whole crowd sitting in lines doing the actions for Don't Rock the Boat.
This was before it came out that they act like a bunch of wankers
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There are really good points made in this video, and I'm sorry you went through the rough experiences that you did. The only thing I tend to disagree with is the point about filming concerts. "If you're just filming the entire concert, and, like, watching the concert down the lens of your phone, that's not experiencing a concert. Why are you here? To get points on TikTok? Fuck off."
Not everyone that films concerts is ultimately doing it for TikTok clout, and not all of them mean to be disrespectful. Some people actually want to preserve the concert. I live in Abilene, Texas, USA, where as far as good concerts go, nothing ever happens - so when something finally does happen, like Blue October graces us with one great live performance (Paramount Theatre, 2/29/2024, it was great), it's worth catching it permanently. It might never happen again, so to have that recording and to have that video that you can watch over and you can re-experience it is actually really nice. You made a great point that no two live performances are alike, so that's just a natural development that comes out of that. People in the audience have been pointing video cameras at performers since at least the 1960s - silent fanmade Super 8 footage exists of the Beatles' 2/11/1964 Washington Coliseum concert. Maybe not everyone who films concerts is doing it for such a "noble" cause as preservation, but that's essentially what filming it is in the first place, and that's the purpose it serves.
If you want to talk about being invested in a concert, filming the concert shouldn't be so grave a sin. THAT IS A FAN BEING INVESTED IN THE CONCERT ENOUGH TO WANT TO KEEP IT FOREVER AND SHARE IT WITH WHOEVER THEY WISH TO.
I can get away with recording the concert, even when an artist (potentially) tells me to put my phone down because I'm still recording the sound with a Sony audio recorder. If you make me put THAT away, I will GO AWAY.
Otherwise, this was a really great video!
that's an interesting perspective but you are in the minority. I do appreciate people who actually want to preserve events but I sincerely promise you that is not why most people have their phones out.
@@talistheintrovertFair enough. Still, I hope you have plenty of better concert experiences to come!
I'm saying this from my perspective as someone that got tired of waiting for friends to go to concerts with and decided to try going alone:
I love Janelle Monae and I still had to leave early because I was trying something very uncomfortable and got super overstimulated by the event and feeling hyperaware of myself in public in that way.
That's something that's influencing my opinion of your point on people leaving - I never really think about why they do, I just get out of there way. I also stopped recording at live shows cause I wanna just be in the moment and not care about how it'll look for social. I kind of thank being an elder millennial that I really don't care if I don't get more than a few clips, if that. I don't grow up with a cell so I'm not so attrached to recording my life
I respect an actual reason to leave, which is why at previous concerts when it's happened I haven't batted an eyelid. at this concert it was at least a quarter of the crowd, which is what was disrespectful. I do understand needing to remove yourself.
@@talistheintrovert I guess I've never really paid attention before to how the crowd moves around but I always appreciate and enjoy your analysis
Not a concert thing but a “wtf people?? Did nobody teach you basic human decency??” thing: one of my favourite actors, Edvin Ryding (most well-known for playing Wilhelm in Young Royals), has literally had to tell people on social media to stop commenting on his physical appearance because people have full-on *bombarded* him with hate all because he cut his hair shorter and started growing a moustache (and then there’s *even more* people prying into his life all because he happened to mention that he’s in a relationship). He’s f-cking *20,* no wonder he’s experimenting with his hair, and even if he was older, did nobody teach some of these people “their body, their choice”?? So, yeah, in general my heart absolutely breaks for him, he deserves all the best and it truly sucks that some people are so, for lack of any better words, sh!t.
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Your hair looks so colorful and cool
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At the time of seeing this I have been 4 concerts all within the last year. All of them in then varying crowd sizes. In order from largest crowd size to smallest they were: Ghost and Amon Amarth, Styx, Mac Sabbth (with Playboy Manbaby and The Cybertronic Spree), and a local show with 5 local bands (Mio Min Mio, Or Does it Explode, RIOTNINE, Snag, and Boxing Day). The rowdiest crowd was Styx because it was a mostly older crowd reliving the 80s and it was on St. Paddy’s Day. Ghost everyone was very nice and respectful. Me and my friend didn’t have pit tickets but it looks fun and people weren’t crowding the front. There was even room at that concert for someone in the pit to propose to their girlfriend mid-concert. The crowd that was the least comfortable was the last one listed because as the night went on more and more people that were not familiar with the music and the type of people that go to small punk shows started showing up. Because of that and we knew the vibe was getting ruined me and my friend left before the final band started. You could just tell that the college sorority girls and frat boys were done with their party and came so we left. Every concert has had people on their phones phones and videoed here and there and I I’d as well. I filmed the most Ghost because I knew all the songs already and I needed proof I was there. The rest were small clips here and there as I wanted to relive the moment later. I could not imagine someone wanted to video the entire concert. I am grateful I haven’t been in a bad crowd yet but I know it will probably happen eventually but I will say I am glad for not liking pop music. I fell a lot of metal and punk crowds would not let people be disrespectful.
People have forgotten how to people.
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I’ve only ever been to one concert in my life and that was last year with QKWUEEN GEORGIA to see Little Mix. I had a fab time, loved the performances, loved the songs and the audience were actually great (maybe because it was a matinee and full of families with young kids). And even tho I had a fab time, I don’t think I’ll go to another concert, it just wasn’t my vibe (or affect hehe, I don’t think I used that word that you just taught me correctly there, oh well, oop). And I hear so many horror stories about concerts, it really shook me up about going the first time and puts me off wanting to go another in the future
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9:50 speaking as aomeone w/o asthma, I just can't stand it whenever I'm out and I smell smoke from whether than be cigarette, vape, or even marijuana, and yes I've become so aware that I can actually distinguish the different smokes, I don't know if that's how you say it, like it annoys me so much, and sure with the marijuana, it has been approved to use I think recreationally, I think I don't really know for sure, but like can they at least do it where they aren't literally 2 steps away from where people are? 😅 I see stores that have signs stating that smoking within a certain distance isn't allowed but tell me why I see people out and about smoking 1. Literally 2 steps away from the doors or 2. Casually walking and smoking just letting all that second hand smoke be picked up from others around me because news-flash this isn't only for them, like this store isn't your personal store. And don't get me started on PARENTS that smoke yet...also, have small children? Like...?
This was a very fun video to watch for me because we have very similar stories. I have been going to concerts since I was 2. It was Johnny Cash which is cool but I'm sad I was too young to remember. We didn't take as many family vacations but we did go to concerts. As such I too have been to a lot of concerts of many genres and venues. I've been to heavy metal local concerts in bars to classical orchestra concerts to kpop concerts in stadiums. I have seen all of the behavior Talis mentioned at least once before and it's not fun to see.
The classical concerts you get kicked out for bad behavior in the crowd same as a theater show. I personally don't do mosh pits because even if you don't fall you can get hurt especially, with how clumsy I am but I love the energy. I have noticed a bit of a change in crowd behavior since covid and that has been frustrating. Classic Rock concerts have pretty much remained the same before and after Covid probably because it is the same people lol, lots of pot smoking and dancing/ singing. Some modern Rock/ metal concerts I have had issues with cigarettes and vape smoke. I too have a bit of asthma and it can be very rough. I hadn't heard about that Pearl Jam concert issue before. Pearl Jam pre-covid was one of my absolute favorite concerts ever. Eddie did not want to leave the stage and the crowd was living for it.
Before I get into the next part, I'm sorry Talis your Blackpink concert wasn't as fun because of the crowd. I went to kpop concerts before and after covid. And yes the phones is a real thing but not all of the kpop crowds/ crowds in general I've seen have phones up the whole time which is nice. At the Enhypen concert recently the crowd was pretty good at not having their phones up the whole time. I occasionally see a partner or a dad that clearly isn't a fan playing on their phone the whole time. This is isn't exclusive to kpop this happened at the Jonas Brothers concert I went to recently as well. Stray Kids concerts almost always have really chill/fun crowds I saw them 2 times before covid and 2 times after. I've only seen Seventeen once but they are masters at controlling a crowd and it is wonderful to see in person. When I am not at Kpop concerts I find I miss seeing the lightsticks in the crowd.
The BTS after covid concerts felt really different than the ones I saw before covid. Specifically, I went to the fist 2 nights of the SoFi PTD concerts. The venue had only had 1 event before BTS (it's a new venue) and was not prepared for BTS. The fans were organizing themselves into lines and the staff didn't know what was happening. This also happened at The Boys, N.Flying and Oneus on a much smaller scale. But at the PTD concerts I was handing out freebies and the freebie I handed out changed based on when you started stanning BTS. I was surprised at the amount of fans I talked to that this was not only their first BTS concert but their first concert in general and many of the fans started stanning BTS during covid. But overall the vibe was different most of the crowd didn't know any of the fanchants whereas before covid most of them did. I don't think there were a lot of disrespectful fans there it was just notable that they were new and didn't know as much including how concerts worked in general. In contrast, my first BTS concert I was a month into stanning them I had listened to all of their music and learned at least the basic fanchant. Luckily the Twice concert at SoFi was much more organized. While I have seen some of the behavior from the video especially the squishing the barricade at some kpop concerts, on the other side some of the best experiences I've had at concerts have been at Kpop shows. Like my friend's photocard fell at Enhypen and someone raced after her to give it to her.
I agree entirely that pop concerts are the least safe concerts I've been to especially for my ears which is why I have ear plugs specifically to protect my hearing and still be able to hear the concert. I will say that I think these concerts were also pretty unsafe pre-pandemic. I went to a lot of One Direction concerts and they've had stuff thrown at them since their first tour. Harry in particular has had so much thrown at him. On their first tour I saw videos of bras, tampons and even a didlo thrown at Harry (he was underage on that tour so extra gross). It's why he's so good at dodging stuff now but he shouldn't have to dodge stuff. I think the best concert I've seen where stuff was thrown on stage but not at the artists was NCT Dream. The fans threw hundreds of stuffed animals on stage and a fan gave Chenle a jersey of Stephan Curry his favorite basketball player. Jaemin was particularly adorable grabbing as many of the stuffies he could fit in his arms. I'd love to see more of that instead hitting artists with stuff.
I could keep going with so many more examples but this post is long enough. I think covid made people forget etiquette of how to behave in public or for the younger ones made it so they didn't learn. If you're going to watch videos in public use headphones. Don't play on your phones at concerts or in movie theaters. Don't shout or scream when an artist is talking. And just don't be rude, a little kindness and understanding can go a long way. My favorite concert experiences regardless of the genre or venue have been when the crowd is fully embracing the music. At a classical concert that is sitting silently and respectfully at metal concerts that is mosh pits and head banging. At other concerts e.g. rock/pop/Kpop concerts that is dancing and singing along. You can record videos but don't record every song enjoy the experience of actually watching the show.
glad to hear Enhypen and Stray Kids were good vibes because those are probably the only two kpop concerts I'd consider going to, after my overall negative experience with Blackpink crowds, so that's a relief lol
the BTS stuff makes a lot of sense too, even though it's a little frustrating
concert etiquette has always been hit or miss, especially with pop artists like you said, but I think since covid it's been the increasing frequency that's the problem 🙏
@@talistheintrovert thank you for reading and replying to my message. If you get the chance I do highly recommend seeing Enhypen and Stray Kids.
I didn't say this in my 1st message but I love your videos so much thank you for continuing to make these.
Not me watching this video and hear you say that stuff about loud TikToks on trains just as I was on a train and someone had an incredibly loud conversation on their phone via speakerphone. 💀
Agree with everything you've said about concerts btw. I've been to quite a few lately and the audience was so, disrespectful at some.
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I’m attending my first concert in a few months and I’ve heard so much about the horrible concert etiquette i was a little nervous about it. I was also trying to look into how I should behave, since I’m mostly familiar with etiquette for live musical theater.
Seems like the main rule is “don’t be a jerk,” and yet people still can’t seem to do that.
I went to my first concert after covid (Ricky Montgomery) and it was AMAZING. The vibes were great and the venue was small and intimate, but I had my phone recording for most of it. I hadnt been to a concert before and others were doing it so I did the same. I know for next time!
small venues are definitely the way to go tbh!!
you know, it's a good thing you drank in the middle of the video bcs i honestly did not remember when i last drank water and that reminded me to drink
honestly, i don't think i'd ever go to a concert bcs it's just way too loud for me and i don't like crowds, but i never got why people go to a concert and just got their phones out? watch the concert?? i took journalism in college and i was often the person handling the camera, it's such a different mindset and putting away your phone just adds into how much you enjoy the experience exponentially.
also why. do people throw things. at the person. like cmon. would you want to have anything thrown into your face.
I know right??? it's truly ridiculous
Love your videos calling out people's bad behaviour, its incredibly cathartic! Your "fandomfication of real people" videos have added at least a year to my lifespan. Also, love your hair its so pretty!
that's so kind of you, thank you!! 🥰🥰
I'm in a play right now and this video was so relatable. You can definitely feel a change with the audience each night. Some crowds are great - they clap, laugh, and sometimes boo at the villians. Then you get some crowds that barely laugh or clap. They just stare and it does make it harder for the actors and crew to put on a great show. Please, if you're seeing live theater, try to be loud! (Respectfully and at the right moments, of course)
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I’m going to a concert tomorrow and I’m really hoping things go well
The main concerts I've been to have been Kpop in the past few years and it's gotten bad, what with people screaming when the idols are talking, someone smoking weed during a concert inside... I had two very negative experiences in New York venues, where in one it was standing room only and I could only see the top half of the idols because everyone was holding their phones up, and the other when ONE person decided to stand while everyone else was seated and it caused such a huge issue I had to climb over seats to get to another row so I could actually SEE the concert I paid for. People. Please. Have some respect for the artists and your fellow audience members!!
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Love the hair. I agree whole heartedly, but not just gigs, went to the cinema, no one would shut up and torches going on all the time. On the train, crap music bleating, 3 people phone calls talking over each other. Random people are getting worse
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@@talistheintrovert nothing on this scale though
I’ve been to only two concerts so far in my life ( pre-covid and both K-pop acts) at Big Top, Luna Park Sydney. Not sure what it’s like now, but they have a no phones/photography policy. Some people would risk it but the security were no-nonsense.
oooh, that's an interesting way of doing it, I like that!!
thinking about how at the last concert i went to, the opener was absolutely killer. they didn’t miss a beat and their energy was so good and so high the whole time. so obviously my brother and i were getting a little rowdy and dancing around. when they were over, some people around us were glaring at us? for dancing to the opener (while they were on their phones) and then the headliner came out and these same people just screamed the songs so loud that i could hear more of them than the actual band. and just yelling stuff like “MARRY ME” during quiet moments. smh
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You'd think there was no need to make this video. Honestly, even if you have never ever been to a concert, what is respectful behavior should be innate. People old enough to go to a concert themselves should know better than to throw literal things at people and disrespect performers.
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Thank you for this great video. Love your hair and makeup btw
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I haven't been to a big concert since I was like 14, but any small local shows I have seen in the last year were fine because it was all older crowds who've probably been going to shows longer than I've been alive. I've gone to concerts and shows of every other genre throughout my life, so concert ettiquette has never been something I haven't understood, so when the 2020s kicked off and people started going to shows when they started up again, I was very confused that not everyone understood how to behave? It just made sense to me and, forgive me, but I still feel like it's common sense to just... respect the people around you and not be a nuisance.
The behaviour I see in videos and talked about in text posts about people at bigger shows shocks me and I find the disrespect people have towards opening bands is particularly disgusting. They act as if they don't matter because they aren't the "main show". I remember a while back seeing some people I follow on Tumblr talking about being at a Blind Channel show and there were some fans there who were there _solely_ for Blind Channel. Not in the normal way where you don't know the opening acts at a show but you respectfully watch their performance, no. These girls were just scrolling through their phones throughout all of the opening band's set... while _in the front row_. It's so disrespectful!
And in this case, Blind Channel themselves have toured with and opened for _many_ other bands in their 10 years of making music and doing live shows -- these fans would surely go _BALLISTIC_ if they saw someone disrespecting them the way they were doing for the band that was touring with them (Lost Society, if I'm not mistaken, good tunes). Pretty sure they're _friends_ with the band that opened for them as well, imagine bringing a friend on tour with you and then seeing your own fans brush them off like that! I find it appalling.
I haven't been to a big metal show in my life despite listening to many of its subgenres, but I can confidently say I would feel 100000000% safer in a mosh pit than I would at a Blackpink concert. Someone gave me and my mom AC/DC tickets when they couldn't go when I was like 14 and I was nearly crushed on accident by adults twice my size, but I find that preferable to what you described 💀💀💀💀
TLDR: If you're just there to watch one single band through your phone screen and blatantly ignore/disrespect the presence of everyone else (including the audience you are a part of), you might as well just stay at home.
that Blind Channel story is getting all too common, even just among kpop groups there are "fans" who ignore MEMBERS OF THE BAND THEY'RE THERE TO SEE over their faves and it's. frustrating.
Honestly that societal contract is so true!!!! People literally forgot everything.
Thank you, I have never been to a live concert before this is really helpful. 🥰🥰🥰✨✨✨
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I have never had many chances to go to concerts mostly because I cannot afford it but I really thought it is common sense to act respectful to others and the artist but I'm CLEARLY mistaken 🤦♀️ All the stories I hear of what's happening at the venues recently is just appaling. Like you mentioned, I firmly believe we collectively "forgot how to human" during the pandemic. I noticed it in my city particularly when it comes to driving and road behaviour. One example to illustrate this. There's this cultural event here that happens at church each Easter. Of course for almost 2 years it was a lockdown so people couldn't garher there. But after the lockdown was lifted, next Easter came. So the service at my local church was happening every 30 min. Most people of course drove by cars. The church has a car park BUT the road leading to it is very narrow, cars literally cannot pass both directions at the same time. All my life I've seen people navigating that road no problem. Everyone knew how to make way for each other, even if there was a lot of cars. But that time right after pandemic? HOLY SHIT. Everyone got STUCK because cars wanted to go at the same time from like 3 directions and one idiot BLOCKED the road and didn't want to move. It got so bad my father literally walked out of our car and started leading the traffic like a policeman would. Only that way we managed to escape that hellhole. And since then I see it happening all over. Traffics get a lot worse cause people copletely forgot road etiquette.
you're so right! it's like people forgot how to be considerate of other people on the road, which is 90% of what driving actually IS 🤦♀️
I remember a video from Wacken Open Air where the artist called for a wall of death and this person with her kid was like "oh, free space" and got immediately clocked by mosh pit goers/wall of death enjoyers and as the wall was starting immediately ran to her and they were like four or six people going to her and the child, warning her, allowing her to get the kid in her arms and they entirely secured the area around her etc. So yeah, etiquette in metal/rock music goes beyond your own safety. If you see total noobs who don't get the cues, you entirely educate them. Those people who helped had no jacket marking them as any kind of staff. They were just *there* and decided to forego their fun in a wall of death to make sure a person who looked like a mother with a child were safe and understood the cues and the rules. I remember myself going to mosh, holding my big chest to avoid hurting myself on my bra's metal wiring and people asking me if I was ok afterwards or offering to hold my glasses because they weren't going.
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On the other side of that...
I went to a the Weekend outdoor concert a few years back. It was a HOT day and there was a group of kids in the front stage area, clearly there with their older sister who probably wasn't older then 16. The youngest was probably 8 or 9.... No water bottles, barely any space to breath. At some point I flagged a security gard to bring them water cause they didn't look well, the sister gave me the stink eye as if I wasn't minding my own business! I was so anxious for them!!
10:50 I wish my sibling was able to process this 😪 I learned they vape and unfortunately they are one of those people who have a personality that "they know everything" "they know that already" 😔 so it doesn't matter how we go about it, they don't stop
oof, that sucks I'm sorry :///
I'm going to my first concert next year (TWICE) and I'll make sure to follow the basics 😅.
we love to see it!!
Went to a MCR concert at the start of the year and as a long time mosh goer it was kinda weird? Like there were a lot of people in that pit that just didn't seem to get it. At one point this woman in front of me turned around to yell at everyone for being too close; she was in the middle of a mosh and literally hundreds of people behind her were pushing forward, none of us had a choice in how close we were.
After that she proceeded to get mad at people for jumping during a song and "retaliate" by jumping on peoples feet, thrashing out of control, jumping out of time. Almost headbutted me due to jumping out of time.
And far too much filming. I was in the centre of the pit and it was just a sea of phones. But on a positive, it was incredibly cool to see them light up instead of lighters for songs where it suited.
oh nooooo!!! I can't believe the bad behaviour has even spread to them 😭
Ew to that man who emailed head office at Waterstones. Yuck!
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@@talistheintrovert some people have WAAAYY too much time on their hands
This was an interesting video to watch coming from someone who grew up, wasn't aware/a fan of basically all music artists, apart from my bestie Selena Gomez 🤭, poor. The only concert I went to during adoslescence was to Panic at the disco, and that was only because one of my friends back then said she was able to get tickets. (Experience overall was ruined though because even tho the artist did go to where we were like in the grassy area behind the seats, I didn't even realize until they were leaving because all I could focus on was on how horrible our area smelled because the people next to us snuck inside drugs and were actively using them 🤢) Then the only other concert I went to was to my first BTS concert in 2019 in Chicago, which btw I'm still like sad that BTS had their concert ON THE SAME DAY AS TXT showcase. Experience definitely was better there, I bought seated tickets kinda close to the edge. Altho I also have not so good memories because I had to spend EVERY DOLLAR I HAD because since i decided to not bring my sweatpants, and it didn't stop raining and we only had ponchos we brought with us, I had to buy ourselves hoodies from their merch stall OUT OF MY OWN ACCOUNT. Because my older brother decided it was a good idea to give HIS CREDIT CARD to my YOUNGER sibling going with me, they ended up maxing it out on the kightstick and keychain they got, that when we needed to use said credit card for a neccesity to keep warm, It didn't go thru! And that's basically it, I would have liked to go to TXT concert recently but the tickets were so expensive 😫
It's happening in the theatre too, especially musicals. You don't get people throwing things at the stage (as far as I know) but the phone use, illegal bootleggers, people talking, people singing along... to be clear, I know singing along is encouraged at concerts. It is not acceptable at musicals unless the cast in stage specifically ask the audience to participate. Oh and then there's the fights that start when those people are asked to stop their disrespectful behaviour. It's entitlement, plain and simple.
Yeah I’ve been to a few plays and musicals in the past year or two, and phones have been a huge issue. Probably at least half of them I’ve seen people either get on their phone/smart watch in the middle of the show or let their phone loudly ring in the theatre. One show probably had 3 separate people have their phones go off. Another had someone let their phone ring for like 10-15 seconds in the middle of what was supposed to be a quiet, poignant moment. It’s brutal.
that's so rough 😬
oof oh nooooo that's really bad
I (short) got stuck behind two tall guys at a Sabaton show. Meh, can’t have a great view every time, c’est la vie. But as soon as they noticed me, they offered to let me in front of them so I could see better. Every concert attendee should aspire to be like those dudes - spatially aware and wanting those around you to enjoy the show as much as you are
I wonder if social media vids of things being thrown onstage put the idea into way more people’s heads, leading to more doing it unsafely. And gave people who rarely attend concerts the impression it’s very common and normal (I’ve only seen it happen once), so they think the musician is prepared for it
Also, fellow asthmatic and I'm so tired of ppl acting like wanting to *breathe* makes us the rude ones. I didn’t choose to be asthmatic. You chose to vape. It’s your responsibility to be mindful of others, not theirs to move away or leave the event
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THE VAPING‼️ YES‼️ Ugh! Where I live in the USA vaping indoors IS illegal and yet IT ALWAYS HAPPENS at shows, though, people smoking green pisses me off more because of how severely it triggers my asthma & the fact they legitimately could still have a fun time, and just take edibles when in such crowded spaces- we already have to deal with our asthma vs fog machines, smoke from pyro & just exertion, people being apathetic & smoking drives me nuts.
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If i go to a show it's usually the rock/metal/punk ones where there's usually not too many problems, maybe someones too drunk or they talk through the music (which is sadly pretty common in my country idk why). However i recently learned the difference between young and old crowds. 2 weeks ago i went to a prog rock show of a band that has been active since the 70's. Their audience is on average genuinely like 60 years old and i myself am 22 lol. It was a very small venue, small crowd, just an intimate concert overall. Old people are so respectful and appreciative. No one is trying to gain attention from the artists, they listen when the artists speak, barely anyone was filming and when there were 2 people talking too loud everyone started shushing and the people went outside for a while??? Because that's the normal thing to do??? If you'd shush a young person you'd probably get a shitty attitude back bc 'you don't tell me what to do'.
Augh this just reminded me of my first ever concert experience (A.C.E in 2018). The actual concert was incredible but waiting in line was HORRID bcs not only was it cold, but the people in front of me in line would not stop badmouthing others. They kept saying things like "the people here are all teeny boppers they don't really care abt A.C.E. etc etc" like. TOUCH GRASS!!
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It's so weird to me that people make the choice to go to a concert with tickets that are expensive and then proceed to do something else during the concert ? You can just listen to music at home if you're going to do that !! It's kinda baffling.
Also I really love the hair, It's very cute !!
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I love concerts and go to several a year usually. I think most people are still aware of how to act at shows. But also people have been throwing shit on stages and acting like fools at concerts for a longggg time. It’s not new, it’s just getting more attention now.
I also personally believe that genre does matter. I go to bonnaroo and the crowds for rappers are way worse than most of the R&B or pop artist crowds. But at Korn this year I heard someone broke a leg and was left on the ground in the pit so metal crowds aren’t always great either. It just depends a lot on the crowd, the artist and the overall vibe of the venue.
I'm glad you've had mostly good experiences! however to say it's not getting worse is just not true. things have always been bad, as I said, but they ARE getting worse
@@talistheintrovert I think that’s fair to say but I have to wonder if the statistics back that up or if it’s just subjective experiences. I totally agree that phone behavior at concerts has gotten worse though and it’s the most annoying thing ever.
My sister and father went to a concert yesterday and she was sat next to a person who was up and down getting wine and dancing in her seat. Which is not a bad thing of course. Unless of course you drive your elbow into someones head and apologise only to resume the dancing in the same way that lead to a jarring
it does not shock me that there were people chain vaping at a blackpink concert, i've been in the blackpink fandom for a minute and it's more about proximity to fame and the girls than any actual artistic connection, they want to be there to be doing something they can post
I feel that's in the culture for a lot of kpop and Apop fandom tbh, more about proving you were there than actually enjoying the experience
also, that pic of you outside the O2 is so slay, werk
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@@talistheintrovert ‘limp wrist, hair flick, crème de la crème’
I expect some artists will just set theatre rules for their performances, at the least enact ‘no phones until X song’ policies. Break the rules and you forfeit your seat/spot and are escorted to the rafters or outside.
Alternately have a ‘phones out’ area for people who can’t put their phones away, in the 75-90° range of center stage. No one gets forced into that seating so if you want better seats you have to comply with event rules.
Perhaps the rafter seats can also have an acoustic buffer suspended between them and the rest of the event? Is that extreme? Yes, but so is their audacity.
I’ve attended many ‘can’t see the artist from ADA seating’ because everyone in front of the area has their phones out above their heads.
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i feel that i got lucky at the concert i went to, went to an ed sheeran concert a couple months ago and surprisingly the etiquette was alright, one person threw a phone on the stage but it wasn’t extreme, i always fear something bad will happen at these concerts, people have 0 respect for the artists sadly :(
I hope you continue to have lucky experiences!!! 💜
What do a live singer and a teacher have in common?
they both have to ask people to please put their phone away.
I take my kid to every K-pop group that comes to town. It’s our thing and we have a whole routine (show up early if you want merch, hang out and make friends in the line. Do NOT get into fights with idiot fans who think they are going to marry one of the idols…) she does tend to film her favorite songs, but we don’t scream and the camera is down, not held up high. I have seen medical need to carry people out of the pit at every concert with a GA audience. I have seen police have to (quietly) deal with insane fans at Most concerts. Heck I take her to meet and greets and the stupidity of the fans there is bonkers. She has started saying she doesn’t want to go to certain concerts because of the fans…and that is sad. These are professional performers/artists who are amazing and fun to watch, but the level of delulu is off the charts.
that's so frustrating :(((
Excellent rants + what was the end song please?
Weekends by Freya Ridings!!
Nice. Sounds like Florence & Dua. Thank you. 8^)
I went to a Mäneskin concert earlier this year, and I was right in front of the stage (tho the area where we couldnt see much) and really the worst thing I experienced was some drunk as balls couple making out right in front of me. This was my first concert ever, and generally it was a good experience, so I'm very happy about that. Especially because of a video I saw right beforehand, that talked about the awful concert experience nowadays
I dont know where I'm going with this tbh... but yeah, have my thoughts lol
People making out at concerts is very common. It always has been and always will be. It can be uncomfortable but its not against concert etiquette to make out heavily with your partner at one
@@monsterglacier Ohh okay
Personally I'm not very a PDA person, so I was kinda uncomfortable standing behind them... tho I think the main issue was that they were originally behind us, then shoved their way from behind me... Idk, as I said, it wasnt the end of the world, I was able to ignore them luckily
1: i fear the day i encounter a concert with as nasty a crowd as these. Ive been very lucky with the few ive been to i think. The worst ive seen is people not respecting the ADA section post covid at a Dorian Electra concert(which i sit in) and standing in front of myself and others who CANT SEE OVER THEM??? But ive never seen shit like this.
2: pretty hair!!! Love it. Also that shirt where did u get it?
3: I went to a Mystery Skulls concert recently and it was great! Even when my disability flared really badly, the staff were so helpful and i was able to get back in right before the first song and it didnt fuck up anymore! The phone phenomena was still a thing which is always irritating, but at the very end of Mystery Skulls set they played Ghost, and like. We sang as a crowd. Singer had his mic off mostly, guided us a little bit to make sure we hit beats, but on GOD we didnt need it it was Spiritual in how we all knew and felt the music. Thats what i go to these for. It took a week to recover from sitting upright, but id do it all again just for those few minutes of unity. I wish i could share it with you all. Had me crying my makeup off lol.
Just wanted to share a good post covid concert experience. It was really beautiful.
4: thank youuuuu for all these music recommendations i either forgot about or didnt know Dev Lemons is right up my alley fr
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ALSO the shirt merch from is fellow youtuber @withcindy !!
@@talistheintrovertoh shit I love withcindy ill have to pick that up! Thank youuuuuu
The vaping at concerts is ssooooo annoying! I have bad ADHD, and having a large cloud of steam coming out of a person standing next to me constantly distracts me from the concert. Same with people who talk non-stop or sing louder than the artist, off-key, of course. It's gotten to the point that I don't go to festival shows anymore, because it always feels like half the people aren't there for the festival vibes and don't give a shit about the artist.
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I'm one of the people for whom a concert is an exception reserved for favourite musical artists, so so far I've been to.. one. Nothing quite like thinking, hey, I wonder if the x artists ever did concerts in Poland and finding out that actually, yeah in the spring there will be one, and oh you just met a friend that likes concerts and now likes Faun too cause you introduced it to her.
Happy to say the worst I got was someone enthusiastically whipping their hair around (and at me behind them). The phones were down, only occasional ones up to get some photos to remember.
Extra bonus, I got to buy a CD >:D. Only because of how much money I had did I not buy anything else, welp.
Also, so sorry for the vaping indoors... ugh. Everewhere here where there were no smoking signs, now they include vaping too which I am definitely glad for.. hoping it changes in your place to include vaping too
I'm so glad you've had a positive experience!! that makes me hopeful 🙏
I don't usually comment on videos, but I'm a big fan and I had to say that I love the hair!
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Break a leg editing your next vid vid!!! I’m very excited!!!
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This video is amazing - you go girl and tell them off. I am sorry that your concert experiences have been so less than. I just went to 2 concerts here is Columbus Ohio USA and they were both breathtaking and amazing and the audience was not anything like what you talked about. Saw Eric Nam (Korean American singer) Oct. 12th and The Rose (Korean band) on Oct 26th. So there are good audiences at concerts at some places in the world. (Yeah, big Kpop fan - I would die a happy woman if I get to see BTS just once before I die so I can't die before 2025 😊) I also struggle with Fibromyalgia - ain't it a bitch. And last, it's your You Tube site you can give your opinion on the world if you want to. You spoke the truth. Don't need to apologize.
I would die to see The Rose, but not in crowds like there have been lately. I love BTS but I'd never go to one of their concerts for that exact reason 😭 bigger crowds and scarier sasaengs 😬
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Ugh, yes to every word. I do definitely think there’s something to be said about autistic and adhd people unmasking during Covid (myself being one of them) and therefore getting distracted easier - and also those like you and I with chronic pain who struggle with even sitting for long periods of time, and I worry one day about someone judging me if I fidget etc HOWEVER despite me being a prime candidate for ‘reasonable allowance’ shall we say for not staying rock still, or having the energy to fully participate - I am so, SO aware that I, and others am there and have paid money, maybe have waited their whole lives for this experience - and to therefore NOT ACT LIKE A DICK. And the behaviour you’re talking about is entitled assholes who if they think it’s ok to openly disrespect an artist to their face, probably have no issue with being a bully online.. and that GETS ON MY LAST DAMN NERVE SO MUCH. And these assholes probably don’t realise how distracting their behaviour is to neurodivergent people who are struggling to concentrate for that long as it is, so keep getting pulled out of the experience! It’s not all about you! The selfishness drives me nuts. Someone kept replying to messages whilst I was watching Hamilton. HAMILTON. Renowned for its expensive seats. And it’s a deep fucking show. And I was so lucky to get the price I did, but it still wasn’t cheap. And every time that phone screen lit up, it pulled me out and I had the worst experience. They didn’t even try and cover it or turn the brightness down or think hey maybe.. if something is this important that I’m distracting hundreds of people around me - we were sat at the front of the 1st level - maybe I should leave and attend to that issue. Because either I’ve seen it enough times and don’t need to pay attention and or if I’m looking at my phone for THAT long, and not the show, I clearly don’t care, or I can probably afford to see it again. It really impacted me and pissed me off because this same person was just very loudly talking too, and if you know Hamilton… you just don’t do that. Anyway. 100% agree. People suck. And the people who are most physically incapable of staying in control of being distracted, etc are so worried we are ruining it for everyone else that we end up probably being more still and self aware than anyone else 😅
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