Got a suggestion: a documentary on the Myasischev M-20, and its projected versions. This project is barely known, and it will be quite a good way to show off those crisp and beautiful 3d renders!
Former Boeing.... I spent time at our St Louis plant where both F-15's and F/A-18's are built. Good to see mods on the F-15. Canted vertical stabilizers like those on F-18 really help improve stealth. Not mentioned but obvious to the trained eye, inlet ducts on F-15 mod to hide front turbine blades. Old design presented enemy radar with 2 highly reflective front compressor turbine blades. F-18 was designed that way from the start. Also, internal weapons bays really help. F-18 was quite stealthy until fuel tanks and weapons loaded on the external hard points.
North korea still not defeated for last 80 yrs cuba 60 yrs sanctions G7 v G 20 ??? 100 % yankee 98% stupid 300 million guns on-the street love assassinating their presidents and other countries with impunity
North Vietnam - Military fighter aircraft in that war were designed to be able to take just one hit in the hydraulic system and still be able to fly the aircraft (but not necessarily land it) which caused many pilots to bail out over enemy territory if more than one hydraulic system hit was taken, e.g Navy pilot John McCain ejection. As a result, the USAF required that the design of the F-15 be able to take two hits anywhere in the hydraulic system and still be able fly the aircraft (again not necessarily land). This requirement caused MCAIR to come up with many hydraulic system innovations that have been used ever since.
I'm lucky enough to live in one of the training areas near Fairchild AFB. At least 4 days a week there are fighter jets practicing at low altitude. I have actually had them pass so low that I could see the pilots face when I've been up on Ridgelines. It's like getting a free airshow everyday.
Lol... I live right under the north approach to Fairchild. I can see Yoke's from my front porch haha! When the Thunderbirds were in town last summer, I got a free show from my roof 🤘😝 @justindunlap1235
I remember a mockup of an F-15 in a mall parking lot in my home town when it was first being deployed. My little brother and I got to look inside the canopy while standing on a large steel scaffold and staircase. I believe it was around 1978 or 1979.
Boeing offered the Silent Eagle for Korean marketing, but it lost to the F-35. In fact, it was questionable whether it was even a stealth aircraft. If the conformal fuel tank is removed, the cruising range is fatally reduced, making it much worse than the F-15E. The inclination angle of the weapon bay and vertical tail fins required a lot of development costs. It is a good thing that Korea chose the F-35.
Silent Eagle didn't exist. It was a silly mock-up demanded by inept Boeing leadership who didn't know anything about what it takes to design and build a stealth aircraft. It was a gimmick trying to be passed off as something with potential, and failed from the 1st bulkhead onward.
Actually you will surprise that the SE 15 which is silent eagle was not a stealth aircraft at all as it was not so stealthly such as F22 RCS 0.0001m2, F35 RCS 0.005m2, SU57 RCS 0.01m2 (remember the prototype model of SU57 which is T50 has the RCS of 0.1m2 which has less RAM coating with exposed rivets and no radar blockers on it and it was an test/prototype model) and J20 RCS 0.05m2~0.08m2 so the SE 15 was not so stealthly at all, why because the SE 15 has the RCS around 1m2 to 3m2 or greater. At the same time it will be detect on radar from a long range of around 90 to 80 miles at the first place. And it was not a stealth aircraft at all, but rather it was an standard aircraft by putting RAM coating and modern cockpit display on it, which remains me of an old rust bucket car with new engine and digital custom colors on it.
@@heatblast876 F-35 RCS values are smaller than the combat coded F-22As. F-22s have splitter plate inlets, while F-35s have DSI and far superior Carbon Nanotube RAM. The booms, vertical and horizontal stabs are carbon fiber construction as well, which is RF transparent. Su-57 is a faulty design from the first bulkhead rearward. I can't believe they did that with it.
@@LRRPFco52 No, the F22 has better stealth feature capabilities and characteristics compare to F35, while yes F35 has upgraded stealth coating compared to F22 but still the F35 was not so stealthly as the F22. Now the SU57, actually the serial production model of SU57 has improved the Stealth capabilities and able to reduced the RCS around 0.01m2 (as the size of the human fist or a bird) by applying 30% RAM coating on it making more stealthily than the prototype model T50, while the T50 has less RAM coating with exposed rivets, back part of the engine nacelles, unfixed of weapons door, no radar blockers on it and exposed spectrum of IRST making it the RCS around 0.1m2 as the same size of the F/A 18 and rafale. So yes the serial production of SU57 has improved the Stealth capabilities and able to reduced the RCS of 0.01m2 so it goes to the stealth category, but still it is not as stealthly as the F22 and F35 which has the RCS around 0.0001m2 (as the size of the small marble) and 0.005m2 (as the size of the pin ball). The improved model of SU57 has improved a lot, but still it needs to improve it.
@@денисбаженов-щ1б Actually they have 1st operational batch of SU57 in Russia, but they have more than 6 or 8 of them serially built, while the prototype model of SU57 which is T50 has around 12 of them, so I will not count them because they are not production model at all.
You also have to remember the F14 & F15 both came out at about the same time..... Hughes Aircraft Company (HAC) designed and built the avionics systems and weapons systems, where I met my wife. She worked in admin/management at HAC Radar Systems Group who built the radar's for the F14, F15, F16, F/A18, F18, B1, B2 aircraft. The AMRAAM was developed in the mid 1980's... in essence, the next generation AIM 54 Phoenix.
I really like the idea of upgrading the F15 platform, to bad Boeing choose to increase the price so much. I would have hoped we could have replaced a lot of D's and E's with this upgrade, even ideally using the existing aircraft. The US sends a lot of aircraft into third-world countries on various missions and being able to use something that does not reveal all the tricks of the new aircraft if one is crashed or otherwise compromised would keep down our prices. Maybe we should look into buying that Korean jet to replace our C's and D's. I would guess that Korea would turn around buy more US equipment almost immediately with the profits. One has to remember that these jets are so expensive that they are major inputs into defense budgets.
The only foreign fighter jet that has ever served in the US military is the Harrier, I doubt Boeing and Lockheed Martin would've allowed such thing to happen again.
Would have been nice if you mentioned what the radar cross section was on the SE and what the changing of the fuel tanks did to the range. You just glossed over it really.
yes that's not how stealth works, stealth is about dramatically reducing detection range. If an enemy aircraft or radar station can't detect you (or at least target you) until you're within 20-30km of them but you can detect and target them from 150-200km you have an overwhelming advantage in any engagement
The F-15 is absolutely not designed for stealth. Its design is one that says, "Yeah, you see me coming. What do you think you're going to do about it? Oh yeah, that's right: Pee yourself and die."
Fun to see footage from my hometown Bodø, Norway :) 6:31 Norwegian base for F16 up to the retirement in January 2022. F35 will have its base in Ørlandet.
Considering the V-280 Valor was now officially selected over the SB-1, will you do a video about either in the future? I found both to be very interesting aircraft to say the least.
I liked this video. I recognized some the clips that were played from the documentary "Red Flag." This video also brought back a form of nostalgia seeing clips from "Weekday Wings" that I used to watch as a teenager back in the '90's on a television just like the one that was shown.
The Silent Eagle 🦅 was actually F-15E-001 I worked on it when it was brand new and ready for delivery and years later we went to Edwards AFB for a receiving inspection on F-15E-001 then it came back to St. Louis as a flight test bird and a chase plane. It is now located at Davis Monthan AFB Bond Yard 😢 I ran the engines on that plane many times. She is a great fighter jet she is Joe’s plane. ❤️ Joe was our test pilot in St.Louis and he flew the plane when it was at Edwards AFB also. Joe is a good man and a great pilot.
I love the idea of this aircraft - and although the observability (or lack thereof) comes nowhere near a 22 or a 35, the sheer volume of ordinance these aircraft can handle is a major asset IMO. Use low observability aircraft in conjunction with electronic warfare to suppress enemy air defences, and let the weapons platforms do the damage.
Note that the F35 can carry a lot of ordinance if it doesn’t care about stealth. It too has wing pylons, it’s just not used when it’s required to keep RCS low.
The problem is the Eagle can actually carry just 1500lbs more than the F-35. Obviously we both know that F-35 loses basically all the stealth in that configuration. But so would the F-15. And in our doctrine we already use F-35 + F-15 groups, where F-35 works as an AWACS/C&C, and F-15 is a "bomb/missile truck". So adding stealth to F-15 would change basically nothing in this doctrine. Plus a single unit upgrade would cost 2x the cost of an F-35. The idea was interesting, but the F-22/35 made it obsolete, it's just a whole ton less capability for the same money. But it looks cool af, don't get me wrong.
the thing is that if you have F-22/F-35/B-2/B-21 perform SEAD you don't need a semi-stealthy airframe to do the bomb truck missions afterwards. A regular F-15E will be able to do just fine in uncontested airspace
Seems like 3 of the prominent jets are doing the upgrades to win back customers, though the comeback was not that successful. Silent Eagle, F16 Block 70/72, F14 Super Tomcat.
For those who are wondering why the thumbnail looks slightly different, it’s actually a screenshot from Ace Combat Infinity. Yes, the F-15SE was playable in the game. No, you can’t play it anymore as the servers were shut down :(
*The F-15 has the distinction of being one the only Fighter Jet's in history, that have actually participated in air battle's, to have never being defeated in battle. It's been argued that Its the greatest Fighter Jet ever built.*
Modifying the X32 by moving the cockpit forward into a extended nose with the air intake behind the canopy, & using as many F35 components from contractors as possible would have been a better approach.
USAF always wanted dedicated fighters. F-4 was designed for the navy. McNamara forced USAF to buy the F-4 to save the cost of developing a separate jet.
A common theme. The Navy has to buy the F-35c and don’t seem to be too keen to it. Wonder if they will combine for the next jet fighter as well. Personally, I think it makes sense to have 2 different jets for each service. They need to preserve competition.
in the beggining that picture of the version made by Fairchild seem much more interesting and some parts of it resemble the YF23 BLACKWIDOW ! That would have awsome to see what that Fairchild version would have became if it were picked!
Great video, nice to see the venerable F-15 making an appearance on the channel. Well then, apologies for sounding like a broken record, but please do make a video of the Super Tomcat 21 and/or ASF-14. And while you're at it, remember to include the AIM-152 to put the cherry on top.
Radar tech is evolving and what is hard to see now becomes much more visible down the road. When radars get to the point where all these stealth planes are visible, the raw power of the F-15 will once again be important. I leave my money on the F-15 and let it ride.
Always loved the F15 since i was a kid, greatest fighter ever, but rarely battle tested. Yeah F22 would kick its but nowdays, but its held its head above the pack for so so long.
I remember F-15s with flat thrust-vectoring nozzles, a canard, and a streamlined airframe in the movie Patlabor 2. I believe it could be a good design for stealth F-15 with a bit additional maneuver improvement.
There's nothing you can do to the F-15 airframe to make it stealthy. The STOL/MTD even less so. The whole purpose of that testbed was to research technologies that were used for ATF propulsion and intended features for STOL, which were later dropped from the ATF program. Thrust-vectoring and super-maneuverability were incorporated into the F-22A. Pratt & Whitney learned a lot about how to manage airflow, compression ratios, and materials science for TV engines from the STOL/MTD F-15.
@@e-mac314 My neighbor was one of the Pratt & Whitney experimental engine test technicians, while we worked on the F-15 CTF after F-16C Block 30 expanded avionics and weapons envelope programs at Edwards, working in conjunction with White Sands, Eglin, China Lake, and Point Mugu weapons test centers. We lived through the IPE program for the motors for the F-15, F-16, and F-14, but were covered down on weapons systems and sensors.
The newest flight controls for the f15 fly by wire system with the structural upgrades that strengthen both the airframe and wings have the F15 doing maneuvers that were only thought possible from aircraft with thrust vectoring.
In the Israeli Air Force the F-15 is upgraded in some versions from late 70s & early 80s will serve till 2040 - 60 years in service. That means that the F-15 EX could serve till next century!! Which is leading to an extraordinary record of more than 130 years of service!!
I love the F-15 and I did want to see the the SE fly but deep down I knew it was a really lazy idea. Boeing was trying to pull the classic corner cutting move of take an old plane (that they didn't design) and trying to jam it into the new problem while selling the solution as safe and inexpensive. It's this culture that resulted in the super hornet, the super-duper eagle, the immortal shitty B-52, and the 737 max.
Interesting story. The original F15 design was "Not a Pound for Air to Ground". It was a dedicated fighter platform. Period. But the Israeli's had a need for both a fighter and long range bomber. They converted some of their F15 Baz platforms into a bomb truck configuration when they needed to attack the PLO HQ in Hammam al-Shatt, Tunisia. Once MD understood that not only could they have a state of the art first rate fighter but a bomber also? they submitted their F15E design to go up against the F16 XL and won the competition. Also, the F15 was very much a design of the 70's not 80's
While I have tremendous respect for the venerable F-15 Eagle and its track record in its various iterations, the wisdom and efficacy of pursuing extensive updates for the F-15 will be proven if/when the United States engages peer/near peer military power(s). With problems continuing to plague the F-35, the forced, early retirement of the F-22 Raptor, the grounding of several B-2 Spirit bombers and the long rollout of the NGAD 6/7 generation aircraft, one could be tempted to evaluate the decision making process and fund spending process surrounding U.S. aircraft. Just a thought . . . 🤔🤔🤔🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸
Weapon and electronics bays in the conformal fuel tanks was planned in from the beginning. F-22 numbers are going lower. Upgrades should be in order, rather than limiting F-22 capability and making the F-22 fleet smaller. Some WAG’s can be made, but actual reasoning is for this is minimal.
Unfortunately the SE 15 which is silent eagle was not so as stealthly as the F22 RCS 0.0001m2, F35 RCS 0.005m2, SU57 RCS 0.01m2 (remember while T50 which is prototype model of SU57 has RCS 0.1m2 which has less RAM coating with exposed rivets and no radar blockers on it) and even J20 RCS 0.05m2~0.08m2. Why because the SE 15 has the RCS around 3m2 to 1m2. At the same time it will detect on radar from a long range at 90 to 80 miles at the first place. So it was not a stealth fighter at all but rather it was an standard aircraft by putting RAM coating and modern display cockpit and it doesn't look stealth at all which remains me of an old rust bucket car by putting new engine and digital custom colors on it.
Yeah no shit, it's supposed to be a modern 4.5 gen fighter similar to the Rafale, basically a budget F-35. It's not supposed to be compared to stealth aircraft.
Those figures aren't right. F-35 has a full generation more advanced construction than the F-22 and may well have a smaller RCS despite more visible compromises. China's J-20 is a very clean stealth design, benefiting from both direct access to US stealth materials and terabytes of stolen F-35 data, if anything the J-20 could be a real rival to F-22/F-35 RCS. Notably only the F-22, F-35 and J-20 fly around with Luneberg lens radar reflectors to disguise their real RCS. Meanwhile even the production Su-57 is complete trash as a stealth aircraft, exposed metal from every angle, poor finish, exposed engine fans from the front, unshielded sensors. Just a disaster. And because radar detection is exponential not linear a 0.1m2 RCS means the Su-57 will only get detected around 20% later than a good 4.5 gen fighter like the Rafale with a 1m2 RCS, hell the Rafale has much better radar and might spot the Su-57 first. Agree with you on the SE F-15, 10m2 RCS to 3m2 RCS sounds good but at best that only drops detection range by about 10%, the stealth tag is epic level marketing BS.
@@AlexConnor_ yes and no, the F35 may have advanced stealth coating compared to F22, but everything depends on the physicis and features of the aircraft. You can't say that the F35 is more stealthly than the F22 by putting advanced RAM coating on the F35 will make it more stealthly than the F22, no, it's doesn't features like that. See the frontal, side and back part of the F22 each pattern is different, which is totally different compared to F35, it does have stealth features but way better than the F35, yes. But it's doesn't have advanced RAM coating which has on F35, ok I get the point. But it will not make it more stealthily like the F22 which is totally a different aircraft compared to F35. Second. SU57 I would not say a failure, trash or a losser aircraft, Because most of the people don't know anything about the information and specifications about this aircraft which is SU57 but rather making fake information try to spread on the article which is written by an stupid arrogant person who doesn't know anything about aeronautics and physics of the aircraft rather making fake information about the SU57, and the people most take the disadvantage part of the SU57, which doesn't make any sense at all, so where is the advantage of SU57, please don't say like that, pal. Because you don't know the advantages and improvements of the SU57 and you are taking the part from prototype model of SU57 which is T50 and T50 doesn't have new sensor, radar blockers and improved RAM coating on it and it shows the RCS around 0.1m2. which was came on 2010. But in Dec 26, 2020, the first serial production model of SU57 is actually improving a lot, such as new cockpit module display, improved EW and ECCM suite, new sensor suite has been added, new data communications link, stage 2 engine is going on some trial in future the SU57 will get 5 gen engine with stealth nozzle like the F35, improved situation awareness, satellite communication link, added radio frequency jamming, radar blockers with boundary extractor layer on the SU57 intake, reduced RCS and improved stealth capabilities. Now the improved model of SU57 has able reduced the RCS around 0.01m2 (as the size of the human fist or a bird) and it improved the Stealth capabilities by applying 30% RAM coating making more stealthly and clear surface than the prototype model T50, yes the improved model of SU57 has improved RAM coating and able to reduced the RCS around 0.01m2. The intake of SU57 has s duct inlet plus radar blockers with boundaries extractor layers. The boundary extractor layer has a role that blocks the engine fan blade of the SU57 and few is left for the airpassage that goes through the intake of the SU57. So the production model of SU57 has improved a lot, but still it needs to improve it. Even that I have the proof see on Reddit you find some pictures of SU57 and you will know the difference between the prototype and the improved production model of SU57. And the improved RCS of SU57 see on Google such as SU57 the anti stealth game changer, Secret forum project of new RCS pattern of SU57, Thai military defense articles and india defense of SU57. On UA-cam see on millalium 7 of SU57.
@@AlexConnor_ Let take the references, everything depend on physics. While the SU57 has a stealth characteristics which resemble to be an stealth aircraft like the F22 and F35, but in a different features and pattern, making it different from the other stealth aircraft, if you look properly on the frontal, side and the back part of the SU57 it does have stealth features, such as Vertical stabilizer, internal bay, intake with boundary extractor plus radar blockers, back part of the engine nacelles fully covered by RAM coating and frontal part of the aircraft (IRST spectrum is covered with RAM) which is resemble to be an stealth aircraft. The new RCS pattern of the improved SU57 able to reduced more on the frontal and back part of the SU57 compared to T50 which was shown the old RCS on 2010. And the dbms rate shows below -20 to -23 on the RCS pattern of SU57. On Secret forum project of SU57 RCS pattern which was shown on 2021. So yes the production model of SU57 has reduced the RCS around 0.01m2 and improved stealth capabilities. But still it is not as stealthly as the F22 and F35 which jas the RCS around 0.0001m2 and 0.005m2. Now with the rafale you saying that the Rafale is gonna detect the T50 on radar, no it will never gonna detect on radar from a long range, it will detected under a close range. Now the SU57, the SU57 has improved stealth capabilities and able to reduced RCS of 0.01m2 compared to old model of SU57 (T50) which has the RCS around 0.1m2. The SU57 has superior improved EW and ECCM suite, radio frequency jammer and situation awareness compared to Rafale. One thing the Rafale has disadvantages is that it carries PESA radar, While the SU57 has 3 X band radar AESA and 6 L band radar which is low frequency radar and it also has a role of IFF and EW suite, 2 DIRCM aka Directional infrared countermeasures which was made to dodge or outtake with or without using flare and then it has IRST OLS 50M which can detect the heat signature of the stealth aircraft at the range of 60 to 80 miles, but yes if the spectrum of IRST is open it will slightly or little amount is gonna disturb the RCS of SU57, but not a huge because the spectrum of IRST is coated with radar absorber lens as well as 2 DIRCM, so it will absorb the radar waves, but in a some moments. Now the RCS of rafale has around 1m2, but then the rafale is fully combat loaded pylons with weapons such a missile then it will increase the RCS around 3m2. Yes rafel has it own EW suite but not as the superior one like the SU57, so the EW might help to disturb the radar range, radar lock and difficult to look on radar but not too long for rafale. At the same time the SU57 will detect the rafale first on radar. Because the RCS is 3m2 has EW suite might disturb for some time for not too long, at the same time it will detect from a long range on SU57 radar. While rafale radar is getting difficult to look on radar or not getting anything on radar whivh makes it a clear sign of the rafale that nothing is there on radar why rafale radar will not gonna see anything on radar from a long to medium range because the SU57 has stealth features capabilities and has the reduced RCS around 0.01m2 the EW suite on SU57 has superior EW suite compared to rafale, only thing rafale can detect SU57 at the under close range or using the IRST spectrum at the same time the SU57 detect the rafale on radar and launched the missile towards it and the rafale has the one thing to dodge the missile or got destroy by the SU57 from a long range. So the SU57 wins in BVR match.
@@AlexConnor_ The rafale will detect the SU57 on radar at the range of under 30~20 miles because the improved model of SU57 has the RCS around 0.01m2, so it will detect at the close range. Ok if I compared with the T50 which has the RCS around 0.1m2 so the radar on rafale will detect the T50 prototype/test model of SU57 at the range of under 45 miles (so it will detect on slightly medium range) Compared to production model of SU57, while the improved model of SU57 will mostly gonna detect at the close range, at the same time the SU57 will detect rafale at the first place on radar from a long range on 80~70 miles because the rafale has the RCS of 1m2 but in a fully combat loaded weapons it will increase the RCS more around 3m2. So the SU57 radar will detect rafale first on radar from a long range. So the SU57 wins in the BVR match.
I can't lie, when I first saw the F-15 as a kid, I already concluded that this would be my most favorite aircraft ever, with the F-18 and F-22 coming in HARD second place. Everything from the design, to the armaments, and its kill to death ratio, just making this Jet fighter seem like one of the best fighters ever made, and we have the Russians, to thanks for it(technically the Soviet Union but whatever)
I like the F-15. It's one mighty impressive fighter plane, and with good looks to match. But for some reason, it hasn't endeared itself to me like the F-14 Tomcat has, nor like the F-16 Fighting Falcon have. 🤔
I’d take the F-15 every single time. Unless someone’s got a spare Raptor in their garden shed they want to give me. (As a Brit, I’ll always take the Spitfire, English Electric Lightning, and the Eurofighter Typhoon to any other aircraft of their era, but mad respect to those US warbirds - incredible aircraft).
@@melvinmurray7614 Yes it is. To be precise, undefeated in "Air-to-Air" combat. A few have been shot down by SAMs. But as impressive and capable the F-15 is, as mentioned, it hasn't endeared itself to me, like others have (ie. F-14, F-16, A-10 etc).
If you take the F-15D Eagle and go straight up vertical with Mach 1 then you realize there are no other fighter jet could do that, not F-14 Tomcat, F-16 Falcon, nor F-22 Raptor. I am not sure if the Russian Mig-31 Foxhound could have done that either. That is where F-15 Eagle endeared itself and you may have missed that.
When your 50 year old platform is so highly capable you just slap some stealth paint on and upgrade the engines because it’s just far more efficient to make the old plane better rather than develop newer ones. F15 Mechachad.
The F-15 is like an old LeMans race car crazy powerful and handles just as well. The only problem is that under the skin there is not seat warmers or air conditioning. A whole new jet needs to be built in order to get all the nice bells and whistles. The F-35 and F-22 are like the Viper ACR and Bugatti Veyron. Just as fast and maneuverable but with leather seats and Bose sound systems.
That _Infinity_ thumbnail, tho 😆😂 (Explanation: The picture is the F-15SE from the game _Ace Combat: Infinity._ The dark land/desert is the Area B7R, Nevada)
Just saying until the reveal of the NGAD and its production to a reasonable amount we migjt be at a stage where might see the f15bex upgraded to be stealthy since the US plans to use a combination of 5th and 4th gen planes. So the f15 se program might be brought back
There isn't really value in a "stealth" F-15. The most sensible fleet integration would be the F-15EX loaded up with as many AIM-260s as it can carry, while an F-35 that is further ahead marks targets through datalink for the Eagle to launch at.
Star of Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy and Ace Combat Infinity. Ideal fighter to Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown and upcoming Ace Combat 8. 50 years of #F15.
They definitely need to cant those vertical stabilizers vertical ones looks so out of place, and the 15 degree angle cant also ads to lift as well as greatly reduce radar cross section.
I have to ask: does it matter how large a radar cross-section is as long as the radar can tell it's big enough to be a plane? I'm honestly not sure whether radar finds it easier to detect objects with a larger radar cross-section (but not larger physical size) from further away, but even that question doesn't change the fundamental context. The reality is that as long as your plane's cross-section doesn't fit below that radar threshold for stealth - where the radar can't tell if an object is a plane or not - then it doesn't count as stealth anyway, and it doesn't matter how large the cross-section is (well, at least as long as it's not ridiculously large - there might be a limit determined by the detection capacity of radar). But what cross-section size would all these stealthy improvements have gained the silent eagle? It's not mentioned. Makes it hard to say whether it was a good idea. The problem with relying on paint to almost completely improve a craft's stealthiness is that it is really expensive (well, last time I heard, but my info could be out of date), and there has to be a good reason to use it. If you're going to only improve a craft's radar cross-section from "terrible" to "okay", then what are you really gaining when you could use it to make a different craft with a small cross-section properly "stealth." Also, sacrificing the fuel tanks sounds possibly problematic, so how much fuel capacity would have been lost and what would the new range have been?
And now the F-15EX is the greatest fighter jet on earth without question. Stealthy it is not, but that doesnt matter with the powerset it has. Its more powerful than an F-22 when it comes to engine power, its also faster and it can do SO much more. It can also perform FAR more tasks with minimal modifications than ANY stealth jet.
Just a shorter video for you today! Got a huge 30 minute mini-documentry for the weekend, so just something to tie you over :)
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Got a suggestion: a documentary on the Myasischev M-20, and its projected versions. This project is barely known, and it will be quite a good way to show off those crisp and beautiful 3d renders!
Yes!!! Thank you for the video information and keep it up
Talk about the f-15n sea eagle this time.
How about MiG-31 Foxhound?
The F-15 has proven to be a remarkable aircraft. First flown 50 years ago, and they are still updating and ordering new models.
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Because its airframe is absolutely god-tier.
@@AsymmetricalCrimes the golden airframe
Same with flanker airframe, still updated till this date, both wonderfull aircraft
@@ry0usama511 nobody is talking about the flanker! F-15 rules!
Also, I love how the North American F-X proposal basically looks like a twin engine F-16
Eurofighter before Eurofighter and standard instead of canard delta.
@@PerSon-xg3zr It also looks a bit like the MiG-1.44
What was the name
@@DamplyDoo NA-335
It looked like an American flanker. This was not an accudent.
Former Boeing.... I spent time at our St Louis plant where both F-15's and F/A-18's are built. Good to see mods on the F-15. Canted vertical stabilizers like those on F-18 really help improve stealth. Not mentioned but obvious to the trained eye, inlet ducts on F-15 mod to hide front turbine blades. Old design presented enemy radar with 2 highly reflective front compressor turbine blades. F-18 was designed that way from the start. Also, internal weapons bays really help. F-18 was quite stealthy until fuel tanks and weapons loaded on the external hard points.
North korea still not defeated for last 80 yrs cuba 60 yrs sanctions G7 v G 20 ??? 100 % yankee 98% stupid 300 million guns on-the street love assassinating their presidents and other countries with impunity
@@jameswright2974 Thanks for comment. We do live in a crazy world with weird priorities.
@@SJR_Media_Group do wish the F-14 is brought back.
@@merafirewing6591 Thanks for comment. I too miss the F-14 Tomcat. What an amazing aircraft.
North Vietnam - Military fighter aircraft in that war were designed to be able to take just one hit in the hydraulic system and still be able to fly the aircraft (but not necessarily land it) which caused many pilots to bail out over enemy territory if more than one hydraulic system hit was taken, e.g Navy pilot John McCain ejection. As a result, the USAF required that the design of the F-15 be able to take two hits anywhere in the hydraulic system and still be able fly the aircraft (again not necessarily land). This requirement caused MCAIR to come up with many hydraulic system innovations that have been used ever since.
I'm lucky enough to live in one of the training areas near Fairchild AFB. At least 4 days a week there are fighter jets practicing at low altitude. I have actually had them pass so low that I could see the pilots face when I've been up on Ridgelines. It's like getting a free airshow everyday.
Have you room for me in your house
I live by niagara falls AFB. we have the kc-135s there, and my parents' house is right in line with the runway
Lol... I live right under the north approach to Fairchild. I can see Yoke's from my front porch haha! When the Thunderbirds were in town last summer, I got a free show from my roof 🤘😝 @justindunlap1235
I remember a mockup of an F-15 in a mall parking lot in my home town when it was first being deployed. My little brother and I got to look inside the canopy while standing on a large steel scaffold and staircase. I believe it was around 1978 or 1979.
Boeing offered the Silent Eagle for Korean marketing, but it lost to the F-35. In fact, it was questionable whether it was even a stealth aircraft.
If the conformal fuel tank is removed, the cruising range is fatally reduced, making it much worse than the F-15E.
The inclination angle of the weapon bay and vertical tail fins required a lot of development costs. It is a good thing that Korea chose the F-35.
Silent Eagle didn't exist. It was a silly mock-up demanded by inept Boeing leadership who didn't know anything about what it takes to design and build a stealth aircraft. It was a gimmick trying to be passed off as something with potential, and failed from the 1st bulkhead onward.
Actually you will surprise that the SE 15 which is silent eagle was not a stealth aircraft at all as it was not so stealthly such as F22 RCS 0.0001m2, F35 RCS 0.005m2, SU57 RCS 0.01m2 (remember the prototype model of SU57 which is T50 has the RCS of 0.1m2 which has less RAM coating with exposed rivets and no radar blockers on it and it was an test/prototype model) and J20 RCS 0.05m2~0.08m2 so the SE 15 was not so stealthly at all, why because the SE 15 has the RCS around 1m2 to 3m2 or greater. At the same time it will be detect on radar from a long range of around 90 to 80 miles at the first place. And it was not a stealth aircraft at all, but rather it was an standard aircraft by putting RAM coating and modern cockpit display on it, which remains me of an old rust bucket car with new engine and digital custom colors on it.
@@heatblast876 F-35 RCS values are smaller than the combat coded F-22As. F-22s have splitter plate inlets, while F-35s have DSI and far superior Carbon Nanotube RAM. The booms, vertical and horizontal stabs are carbon fiber construction as well, which is RF transparent.
Su-57 is a faulty design from the first bulkhead rearward. I can't believe they did that with it.
@@LRRPFco52 No, the F22 has better stealth feature capabilities and characteristics compare to F35, while yes F35 has upgraded stealth coating compared to F22 but still the F35 was not so stealthly as the F22. Now the SU57, actually the serial production model of SU57 has improved the Stealth capabilities and able to reduced the RCS around 0.01m2 (as the size of the human fist or a bird) by applying 30% RAM coating on it making more stealthily than the prototype model T50, while the T50 has less RAM coating with exposed rivets, back part of the engine nacelles, unfixed of weapons door, no radar blockers on it and exposed spectrum of IRST making it the RCS around 0.1m2 as the same size of the F/A 18 and rafale. So yes the serial production of SU57 has improved the Stealth capabilities and able to reduced the RCS of 0.01m2 so it goes to the stealth category, but still it is not as stealthly as the F22 and F35 which has the RCS around 0.0001m2 (as the size of the small marble) and 0.005m2 (as the size of the pin ball). The improved model of SU57 has improved a lot, but still it needs to improve it.
@@денисбаженов-щ1б Actually they have 1st operational batch of SU57 in Russia, but they have more than 6 or 8 of them serially built, while the prototype model of SU57 which is T50 has around 12 of them, so I will not count them because they are not production model at all.
Loving the amount of content being pushed out lately!
Just love the f15 and hope it’s around for much longer with future upgrades
The F-15, Is Literally An Example For...
"Legends Never Dies"
F-15 and upgraded variants that outlast it own "successor". My favorite fighter.
Finally a video about the silent eagle, I actually found very few videos so far that talks about this variant in depth
You also have to remember the F14 & F15 both came out at about the same time..... Hughes Aircraft Company (HAC) designed and built the avionics systems and weapons systems, where I met my wife. She worked in admin/management at HAC Radar Systems Group who built the radar's for the F14, F15, F16, F/A18, F18, B1, B2 aircraft. The AMRAAM was developed in the mid 1980's... in essence, the next generation AIM 54 Phoenix.
I really like the idea of upgrading the F15 platform, to bad Boeing choose to increase the price so much. I would have hoped we could have replaced a lot of D's and E's with this upgrade, even ideally using the existing aircraft. The US sends a lot of aircraft into third-world countries on various missions and being able to use something that does not reveal all the tricks of the new aircraft if one is crashed or otherwise compromised would keep down our prices. Maybe we should look into buying that Korean jet to replace our C's and D's. I would guess that Korea would turn around buy more US equipment almost immediately with the profits. One has to remember that these jets are so expensive that they are major inputs into defense budgets.
Almost like cutting edge technology, and research and development are expensive or something.
The only foreign fighter jet that has ever served in the US military is the Harrier, I doubt Boeing and Lockheed Martin would've allowed such thing to happen again.
Why in the world would South Korea buy more expensive USA weapons? They would just put the profits into developing more domestic weapons.
F-15Cs have had several upgrades since the 80s. Still considered the backbone of our air superiority doctrine.
Would have been nice if you mentioned what the radar cross section was on the SE and what the changing of the fuel tanks did to the range. You just glossed over it really.
Agreed
The F15 is a great fighter. A vastly upgraded F15 is a wonderful idea.
F4, F16, and F15 are likely the most pleasant to the eyes aircraft to fly in the past 30 years.
And the F14, and more like 45 years
F14 and F4.
Definitely the F-16, too, yes.
Nah f-22
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No plane is 100% "invisible to radar" 0:05. These enhancements simply give it a slightly smaller radar profile than the original model
Figure of speech perhaps since most of us who watch this content already know that.
Thanks captain
True words
yes that's not how stealth works, stealth is about dramatically reducing detection range. If an enemy aircraft or radar station can't detect you (or at least target you) until you're within 20-30km of them but you can detect and target them from 150-200km you have an overwhelming advantage in any engagement
@@yomama629 RADAR detection is just one part of stealth or Low Observability.
Wow, imagine the F15 having a higher RCS than the other keys listed, which all came later…
The F-15 is absolutely not designed for stealth. Its design is one that says, "Yeah, you see me coming. What do you think you're going to do about it? Oh yeah, that's right: Pee yourself and die."
It was only a matter of time before Ace Combat thumbnail. This is the fate of all aircraft youtubers.
Fun to see footage from my hometown Bodø, Norway :) 6:31 Norwegian base for F16 up to the retirement in January 2022. F35 will have its base in Ørlandet.
I wish someone would make a video about what radar cross section is and how that all works.
Go look at the Lockheed channel
Considering the V-280 Valor was now officially selected over the SB-1, will you do a video about either in the future? I found both to be very interesting aircraft to say the least.
No way 😢
Guess the bribe money didn’t work lol.
Really??
Oh no, I wanted the SB-1 to win
@@Shaked030 the attack variant has not been chosen yet. The defiant may still win against the invictus
So for yall SB fans, there is still hope that it will be chosen to replace the apache
I liked this video. I recognized some the clips that were played from the documentary "Red Flag." This video also brought back a form of nostalgia seeing clips from "Weekday Wings" that I used to watch as a teenager back in the '90's on a television just like the one that was shown.
I hope the Eagle can reclaim the title "king of the skies"
The Silent Eagle 🦅 was actually F-15E-001
I worked on it when it was brand new and ready for delivery and years later we went to Edwards AFB for a receiving inspection on F-15E-001 then it came back to
St. Louis as a flight test bird and a chase plane.
It is now located at Davis Monthan AFB Bond Yard 😢
I ran the engines on that plane many times.
She is a great fighter jet she is Joe’s plane. ❤️
Joe was our test pilot in St.Louis and he flew the plane when it was at Edwards AFB also.
Joe is a good man and a great pilot.
I love the idea of this aircraft - and although the observability (or lack thereof) comes nowhere near a 22 or a 35, the sheer volume of ordinance these aircraft can handle is a major asset IMO. Use low observability aircraft in conjunction with electronic warfare to suppress enemy air defences, and let the weapons platforms do the damage.
Note that the F35 can carry a lot of ordinance if it doesn’t care about stealth. It too has wing pylons, it’s just not used when it’s required to keep RCS low.
The problem is the Eagle can actually carry just 1500lbs more than the F-35.
Obviously we both know that F-35 loses basically all the stealth in that configuration. But so would the F-15. And in our doctrine we already use F-35 + F-15 groups, where F-35 works as an AWACS/C&C, and F-15 is a "bomb/missile truck". So adding stealth to F-15 would change basically nothing in this doctrine. Plus a single unit upgrade would cost 2x the cost of an F-35.
The idea was interesting, but the F-22/35 made it obsolete, it's just a whole ton less capability for the same money.
But it looks cool af, don't get me wrong.
the thing is that if you have F-22/F-35/B-2/B-21 perform SEAD you don't need a semi-stealthy airframe to do the bomb truck missions afterwards. A regular F-15E will be able to do just fine in uncontested airspace
Seems like 3 of the prominent jets are doing the upgrades to win back customers, though the comeback was not that successful. Silent Eagle, F16 Block 70/72, F14 Super Tomcat.
For those who are wondering why the thumbnail looks slightly different, it’s actually a screenshot from Ace Combat Infinity.
Yes, the F-15SE was playable in the game. No, you can’t play it anymore as the servers were shut down :(
*The F-15 has the distinction of being one the only Fighter Jet's in history, that have actually participated in air battle's, to have never being defeated in battle. It's been argued that Its the greatest Fighter Jet ever built.*
The Sea Harrier is the only other fighter jet with that distinction
The f15 carries PODs, theY do not make the F15 invisible, But they do greatly extend the ability to See at great distances.
One of my favorite aviation UA-camrs out there along with Mustard and Not What You Think. You keep crushing it with that content and animations.
Modifying the X32 by moving the cockpit forward into a extended nose with the air intake behind the canopy, & using as many F35 components from contractors as possible would have been a better approach.
USAF always wanted dedicated fighters. F-4 was designed for the navy. McNamara forced USAF to buy the F-4 to save the cost of developing a separate jet.
A common theme. The Navy has to buy the F-35c and don’t seem to be too keen to it. Wonder if they will combine for the next jet fighter as well. Personally, I think it makes sense to have 2 different jets for each service. They need to preserve competition.
It's been nearly 5 decades and the F-15 remains the best jet aircraft used in action, despite being obsolete.
in the beggining that picture of the version made by Fairchild seem much more interesting and some parts of it resemble the YF23 BLACKWIDOW ! That would have awsome to see what that Fairchild version would have became if it were picked!
Great video, nice to see the venerable F-15 making an appearance on the channel. Well then, apologies for sounding like a broken record, but please do make a video of the Super Tomcat 21 and/or ASF-14. And while you're at it, remember to include the AIM-152 to put the cherry on top.
Radar tech is evolving and what is hard to see now becomes much more visible down the road. When radars get to the point where all these stealth planes are visible, the raw power of the F-15 will once again be important. I leave my money on the F-15 and let it ride.
F15’s and 18’s are my favorite fighters💪🏼
F-16 and F-14 are mine... 💪🏻💪🏻
Right now, the F-14 Tomcat is crying. “Why didn't you give me the same upgrade with the Super Tomcat design?" 😭
Always loved the F15 since i was a kid, greatest fighter ever, but rarely battle tested. Yeah F22 would kick its but nowdays, but its held its head above the pack for so so long.
I remember F-15s with flat thrust-vectoring nozzles, a canard, and a streamlined airframe in the movie Patlabor 2. I believe it could be a good design for stealth F-15 with a bit additional maneuver improvement.
F15 stol/mtd
It is also in Ace Combat as F15 MTD
There's nothing you can do to the F-15 airframe to make it stealthy. The STOL/MTD even less so. The whole purpose of that testbed was to research technologies that were used for ATF propulsion and intended features for STOL, which were later dropped from the ATF program. Thrust-vectoring and super-maneuverability were incorporated into the F-22A. Pratt & Whitney learned a lot about how to manage airflow, compression ratios, and materials science for TV engines from the STOL/MTD F-15.
NASA owned that test aircraft for many years. Probably worth a whole video on its own.
@@e-mac314 My neighbor was one of the Pratt & Whitney experimental engine test technicians, while we worked on the F-15 CTF after F-16C Block 30 expanded avionics and weapons envelope programs at Edwards, working in conjunction with White Sands, Eglin, China Lake, and Point Mugu weapons test centers.
We lived through the IPE program for the motors for the F-15, F-16, and F-14, but were covered down on weapons systems and sensors.
The newest flight controls for the f15 fly by wire system with the structural upgrades that strengthen both the airframe and wings have the F15 doing maneuvers that were only thought possible from aircraft with thrust vectoring.
8:25 dat cockpit
In the Israeli Air Force the F-15 is upgraded in some versions from late 70s & early 80s will serve till 2040 - 60 years in service.
That means that the F-15 EX could serve till next century!! Which is leading to an extraordinary record of more than 130 years of service!!
I love the F-15 and I did want to see the the SE fly but deep down I knew it was a really lazy idea. Boeing was trying to pull the classic corner cutting move of take an old plane (that they didn't design) and trying to jam it into the new problem while selling the solution as safe and inexpensive.
It's this culture that resulted in the super hornet, the super-duper eagle, the immortal shitty B-52, and the 737 max.
F-22 barrel rolled with laughter over that last ambitious comment.
Another great aircraft.
50yrs and it still looks great.
Bro you are the man. Just talk to ya the other day requesting it and bam. Clean cut. EXcellent video
i cant think of anything more terrifying than a stealth f-15...
0:25 I would spend my hard earnings on all of the models that this channel produces, like this one right here.
the whole intro segment sounded like an F-15 rap
Interesting story. The original F15 design was "Not a Pound for Air to Ground". It was a dedicated fighter platform. Period. But the Israeli's had a need for both a fighter and long range bomber. They converted some of their F15 Baz platforms into a bomb truck configuration when they needed to attack the PLO HQ in Hammam al-Shatt, Tunisia. Once MD understood that not only could they have a state of the art first rate fighter but a bomber also? they submitted their F15E design to go up against the F16 XL and won the competition. Also, the F15 was very much a design of the 70's not 80's
F15EX is so cool 😎
While I have tremendous respect for the venerable F-15 Eagle and its track record in its various iterations, the wisdom and efficacy of pursuing extensive updates for the F-15 will be proven if/when the United States engages peer/near peer military power(s).
With problems continuing to plague the F-35, the forced, early retirement of the F-22 Raptor, the grounding of several B-2 Spirit bombers and the long rollout of the NGAD 6/7 generation aircraft, one could be tempted to evaluate the decision making process and fund spending process surrounding U.S. aircraft. Just a thought . . . 🤔🤔🤔🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸
Great episode, any plans on doing the super f-14, f-16xl or the a-6f?
Little did they know, the Mig 25 was like a muscle car, all speed and little handling.
Typical commie junk.
The f15 is the coolest fighter jet I’ve ever seen, just gives off an air of dominance
Weapon and electronics bays in the conformal fuel tanks was planned in from the beginning.
F-22 numbers are going lower. Upgrades should be in order, rather than limiting F-22 capability and making the F-22 fleet smaller. Some WAG’s can be made, but actual reasoning is for this is minimal.
Unfortunately the SE 15 which is silent eagle was not so as stealthly as the F22 RCS 0.0001m2, F35 RCS 0.005m2, SU57 RCS 0.01m2 (remember while T50 which is prototype model of SU57 has RCS 0.1m2 which has less RAM coating with exposed rivets and no radar blockers on it) and even J20 RCS 0.05m2~0.08m2. Why because the SE 15 has the RCS around 3m2 to 1m2. At the same time it will detect on radar from a long range at 90 to 80 miles at the first place. So it was not a stealth fighter at all but rather it was an standard aircraft by putting RAM coating and modern display cockpit and it doesn't look stealth at all which remains me of an old rust bucket car by putting new engine and digital custom colors on it.
Yeah no shit, it's supposed to be a modern 4.5 gen fighter similar to the Rafale, basically a budget F-35. It's not supposed to be compared to stealth aircraft.
Those figures aren't right. F-35 has a full generation more advanced construction than the F-22 and may well have a smaller RCS despite more visible compromises. China's J-20 is a very clean stealth design, benefiting from both direct access to US stealth materials and terabytes of stolen F-35 data, if anything the J-20 could be a real rival to F-22/F-35 RCS. Notably only the F-22, F-35 and J-20 fly around with Luneberg lens radar reflectors to disguise their real RCS.
Meanwhile even the production Su-57 is complete trash as a stealth aircraft, exposed metal from every angle, poor finish, exposed engine fans from the front, unshielded sensors. Just a disaster. And because radar detection is exponential not linear a 0.1m2 RCS means the Su-57 will only get detected around 20% later than a good 4.5 gen fighter like the Rafale with a 1m2 RCS, hell the Rafale has much better radar and might spot the Su-57 first.
Agree with you on the SE F-15, 10m2 RCS to 3m2 RCS sounds good but at best that only drops detection range by about 10%, the stealth tag is epic level marketing BS.
@@AlexConnor_ yes and no, the F35 may have advanced stealth coating compared to F22, but everything depends on the physicis and features of the aircraft. You can't say that the F35 is more stealthly than the F22 by putting advanced RAM coating on the F35 will make it more stealthly than the F22, no, it's doesn't features like that. See the frontal, side and back part of the F22 each pattern is different, which is totally different compared to F35, it does have stealth features but way better than the F35, yes. But it's doesn't have advanced RAM coating which has on F35, ok I get the point. But it will not make it more stealthily like the F22 which is totally a different aircraft compared to F35.
Second. SU57 I would not say a failure, trash or a losser aircraft, Because most of the people don't know anything about the information and specifications about this aircraft which is SU57 but rather making fake information try to spread on the article which is written by an stupid arrogant person who doesn't know anything about aeronautics and physics of the aircraft rather making fake information about the SU57, and the people most take the disadvantage part of the SU57, which doesn't make any sense at all, so where is the advantage of SU57, please don't say like that, pal. Because you don't know the advantages and improvements of the SU57 and you are taking the part from prototype model of SU57 which is T50 and T50 doesn't have new sensor, radar blockers and improved RAM coating on it and it shows the RCS around 0.1m2. which was came on 2010.
But in Dec 26, 2020, the first serial production model of SU57 is actually improving a lot, such as new cockpit module display, improved EW and ECCM suite, new sensor suite has been added, new data communications link, stage 2 engine is going on some trial in future the SU57 will get 5 gen engine with stealth nozzle like the F35, improved situation awareness, satellite communication link, added radio frequency jamming, radar blockers with boundary extractor layer on the SU57 intake, reduced RCS and improved stealth capabilities. Now the improved model of SU57 has able reduced the RCS around 0.01m2 (as the size of the human fist or a bird) and it improved the Stealth capabilities by applying 30% RAM coating making more stealthly and clear surface than the prototype model T50, yes the improved model of SU57 has improved RAM coating and able to reduced the RCS around 0.01m2. The intake of SU57 has s duct inlet plus radar blockers with boundaries extractor layers. The boundary extractor layer has a role that blocks the engine fan blade of the SU57 and few is left for the airpassage that goes through the intake of the SU57. So the production model of SU57 has improved a lot, but still it needs to improve it. Even that I have the proof see on Reddit you find some pictures of SU57 and you will know the difference between the prototype and the improved production model of SU57. And the improved RCS of SU57 see on Google such as SU57 the anti stealth game changer, Secret forum project of new RCS pattern of SU57, Thai military defense articles and india defense of SU57. On UA-cam see on millalium 7 of SU57.
@@AlexConnor_ Let take the references, everything depend on physics. While the SU57 has a stealth characteristics which resemble to be an stealth aircraft like the F22 and F35, but in a different features and pattern, making it different from the other stealth aircraft, if you look properly on the frontal, side and the back part of the SU57 it does have stealth features, such as Vertical stabilizer, internal bay, intake with boundary extractor plus radar blockers, back part of the engine nacelles fully covered by RAM coating and frontal part of the aircraft (IRST spectrum is covered with RAM) which is resemble to be an stealth aircraft. The new RCS pattern of the improved SU57 able to reduced more on the frontal and back part of the SU57 compared to T50 which was shown the old RCS on 2010. And the dbms rate shows below -20 to -23 on the RCS pattern of SU57. On Secret forum project of SU57 RCS pattern which was shown on 2021. So yes the production model of SU57 has reduced the RCS around 0.01m2 and improved stealth capabilities. But still it is not as stealthly as the F22 and F35 which jas the RCS around 0.0001m2 and 0.005m2.
Now with the rafale you saying that the Rafale is gonna detect the T50 on radar, no it will never gonna detect on radar from a long range, it will detected under a close range. Now the SU57, the SU57 has improved stealth capabilities and able to reduced RCS of 0.01m2 compared to old model of SU57 (T50) which has the RCS around 0.1m2. The SU57 has superior improved EW and ECCM suite, radio frequency jammer and situation awareness compared to Rafale. One thing the Rafale has disadvantages is that it carries PESA radar, While the SU57 has 3 X band radar AESA and 6 L band radar which is low frequency radar and it also has a role of IFF and EW suite, 2 DIRCM aka Directional infrared countermeasures which was made to dodge or outtake with or without using flare and then it has IRST OLS 50M which can detect the heat signature of the stealth aircraft at the range of 60 to 80 miles, but yes if the spectrum of IRST is open it will slightly or little amount is gonna disturb the RCS of SU57, but not a huge because the spectrum of IRST is coated with radar absorber lens as well as 2 DIRCM, so it will absorb the radar waves, but in a some moments. Now the RCS of rafale has around 1m2, but then the rafale is fully combat loaded pylons with weapons such a missile then it will increase the RCS around 3m2. Yes rafel has it own EW suite but not as the superior one like the SU57, so the EW might help to disturb the radar range, radar lock and difficult to look on radar but not too long for rafale. At the same time the SU57 will detect the rafale first on radar. Because the RCS is 3m2 has EW suite might disturb for some time for not too long, at the same time it will detect from a long range on SU57 radar. While rafale radar is getting difficult to look on radar or not getting anything on radar whivh makes it a clear sign of the rafale that nothing is there on radar why rafale radar will not gonna see anything on radar from a long to medium range because the SU57 has stealth features capabilities and has the reduced RCS around 0.01m2 the EW suite on SU57 has superior EW suite compared to rafale, only thing rafale can detect SU57 at the under close range or using the IRST spectrum at the same time the SU57 detect the rafale on radar and launched the missile towards it and the rafale has the one thing to dodge the missile or got destroy by the SU57 from a long range. So the SU57 wins in BVR match.
@@AlexConnor_ The rafale will detect the SU57 on radar at the range of under 30~20 miles because the improved model of SU57 has the RCS around 0.01m2, so it will detect at the close range. Ok if I compared with the T50 which has the RCS around 0.1m2 so the radar on rafale will detect the T50 prototype/test model of SU57 at the range of under 45 miles (so it will detect on slightly medium range) Compared to production model of SU57, while the improved model of SU57 will mostly gonna detect at the close range, at the same time the SU57 will detect rafale at the first place on radar from a long range on 80~70 miles because the rafale has the RCS of 1m2 but in a fully combat loaded weapons it will increase the RCS more around 3m2. So the SU57 radar will detect rafale first on radar from a long range. So the SU57 wins in the BVR match.
I can't lie, when I first saw the F-15 as a kid, I already concluded that this would be my most favorite aircraft ever, with the F-18 and F-22 coming in HARD second place. Everything from the design, to the armaments, and its kill to death ratio, just making this Jet fighter seem like one of the best fighters ever made, and we have the Russians, to thanks for it(technically the Soviet Union but whatever)
F-15 will never die
My favorite fighter made even better! What more could I ask for?
Look out dictator putin
The Fox-Bat is a metaphor for the current situation..
If they can make the Rodan stealth, I'll be extremely surprised!
Hey Mr. I just love your show........ watch them all! Thanks!
I like the F-15. It's one mighty impressive fighter plane, and with good looks to match. But for some reason, it hasn't endeared itself to me like the F-14 Tomcat has, nor like the F-16 Fighting Falcon have. 🤔
I’d take the F-15 every single time. Unless someone’s got a spare Raptor in their garden shed they want to give me. (As a Brit, I’ll always take the Spitfire, English Electric Lightning, and the Eurofighter Typhoon to any other aircraft of their era, but mad respect to those US warbirds - incredible aircraft).
But it's undefeated I'm combat
@@melvinmurray7614 Yes it is. To be precise, undefeated in "Air-to-Air" combat. A few have been shot down by SAMs. But as impressive and capable the F-15 is, as mentioned, it hasn't endeared itself to me, like others have (ie. F-14, F-16, A-10 etc).
If you take the F-15D Eagle and go straight up vertical with Mach 1 then you realize there are no other fighter jet could do that, not F-14 Tomcat, F-16 Falcon, nor F-22 Raptor. I am not sure if the Russian Mig-31 Foxhound could have done that either. That is where F-15 Eagle endeared itself and you may have missed that.
@@maddogpham9815 That feat is common knowledge.
Love the F-15 jet awesome. 🇺🇲🇮🇱🇯🇵❤️👍🤗😁😀☺️ I have a battery operated jet F-15 lights & sounds, I bought myself.
Can you make a video with f18 block 3
McDonnell Douglas hit a home run with this plane when they began their design in 1967.
When your 50 year old platform is so highly capable you just slap some stealth paint on and upgrade the engines because it’s just far more efficient to make the old plane better rather than develop newer ones.
F15 Mechachad.
Next time I crop dust a room with a silent but deadly fart, I’m now going to call it the Silent Eagle
If the F-15 SE (Silent Eagle) and F-15 STOL/MTD (Active) It would probably end up being a 5th generation aircraft.
the F-15 wants to be seen, it wants to hear the fear of the other pilots, it's hunger for fear
I liked the history segment. I was wondering about the f 15
-gets scared
-shoots over 50 years into future tech
-got scared over nothing
-accidental superweapon
The F-15 is like an old LeMans race car crazy powerful and handles just as well. The only problem is that under the skin there is not seat warmers or air conditioning.
A whole new jet needs to be built in order to get all the nice bells and whistles. The F-35 and F-22 are like the Viper ACR and Bugatti Veyron. Just as fast and maneuverable but with leather seats and Bose sound systems.
Give me horsepower and a manual transmission. You can keep the seat warmers and a/c 😂😂😂
Step 1. Take something good
Step 2. Make it even BETTER
I was at Langley in 1976 when the first F-15As arrived.
That _Infinity_ thumbnail, tho 😆😂
(Explanation: The picture is the F-15SE from the game _Ace Combat: Infinity._ The dark land/desert is the Area B7R, Nevada)
Trying to make the f15 a stealth fighter is like putting supressors on a minigun and call it a day
Honestly, they should have made this model for full production
Just saying until the reveal of the NGAD and its production to a reasonable amount we migjt be at a stage where might see the f15bex upgraded to be stealthy since the US plans to use a combination of 5th and 4th gen planes. So the f15 se program might be brought back
Nah, the EX will only be produced in a 80-something run. Enough for a stopgap, too few for expensive upgrades.
F15EX with Canted tails, 3D TV, and Canards when?
There isn't really value in a "stealth" F-15. The most sensible fleet integration would be the F-15EX loaded up with as many AIM-260s as it can carry, while an F-35 that is further ahead marks targets through datalink for the Eagle to launch at.
the F15 in the beginning of the video. We'll all from a movie called operation red flag it's a very good watch would recommend
The USA had a great dedicated air to air jet!!!!!! THE F-8U CRUSADER!!!!! ONE OF MY FAVES
HE'S LIKE I'M ON BUS I HAVE HAIPPERGLOWSEMA HIS MIND STATE OF MIND
The new F-15 is a bomb truck.
I hate that they gave up on this beautiful jet...
The year is 2073, the latest variant of the F15 rolls off the production line, space is now within it's air superiority domain...
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I still can't wrap my head around the fact that you can buy about 50 very nice and big houses for the price of one of these toys.
They definitely need to cant those vertical stabilizers vertical ones looks so out of place, and the 15 degree angle cant also ads to lift as well as greatly reduce radar cross section.
I'm firmly convinced that the F-15 will live just as long as the ac-130 and the b-52
Sad part is the A-10 is going to be retired in 2029.
I have to ask: does it matter how large a radar cross-section is as long as the radar can tell it's big enough to be a plane? I'm honestly not sure whether radar finds it easier to detect objects with a larger radar cross-section (but not larger physical size) from further away, but even that question doesn't change the fundamental context. The reality is that as long as your plane's cross-section doesn't fit below that radar threshold for stealth - where the radar can't tell if an object is a plane or not - then it doesn't count as stealth anyway, and it doesn't matter how large the cross-section is (well, at least as long as it's not ridiculously large - there might be a limit determined by the detection capacity of radar).
But what cross-section size would all these stealthy improvements have gained the silent eagle? It's not mentioned. Makes it hard to say whether it was a good idea.
The problem with relying on paint to almost completely improve a craft's stealthiness is that it is really expensive (well, last time I heard, but my info could be out of date), and there has to be a good reason to use it. If you're going to only improve a craft's radar cross-section from "terrible" to "okay", then what are you really gaining when you could use it to make a different craft with a small cross-section properly "stealth."
Also, sacrificing the fuel tanks sounds possibly problematic, so how much fuel capacity would have been lost and what would the new range have been?
F-15 eagle never old
And now the F-15EX is the greatest fighter jet on earth without question. Stealthy it is not, but that doesnt matter with the powerset it has. Its more powerful than an F-22 when it comes to engine power, its also faster and it can do SO much more. It can also perform FAR more tasks with minimal modifications than ANY stealth jet.
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