How Techno was born: From Detroit to Berlin and back

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  • Опубліковано 1 тра 2024
  • As Berlin gears up for the Love Parade successor, Rave The Planet this weekend, we take a look at the beginnings of techno. Techno is the unofficial soundtrack of Berlin, intertwining with its vibrant and relentless party culture, but where did it all start? The real backstory of techno begins early 1980s in Detroit, a city struggling with industrial decline and social challenges. In this episode of Arts Unveiled, we take a look back at the birth of techno as a response to these hardships, as visionary artists like Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson fuse funk, electro, and synth-pop with futuristic visions from science fiction.
    The influence of European electronic music, particularly the iconic Kraftwerk, on the Detroit pioneers, who crafted a unique sound would revolutionize the music scene. Black and queer communities played a pivotal role in the genesis of techno, with their contributions building the genre and culture as we know it.
    We will take you to Berlin, where techno found its second home after the fall of the Wall in 1989 and to the electrifying atmosphere of dark basement clubs and run-down buildings where the hard and fast beats of techno first captivated audiences. From the Love Parade, a legendary music festival that took techno to the streets, drawing millions of ravers from around the world, to the legendary clubs of Berlin, such as Tresor and Berghain, where techno thrives with no curfew.
    Join us as we unearth forgotten history and hear from techno legends, including interviews with DJs from Detroit and Berlin and learn how every genre of music has its roots in something different and embrace the story behind techno's rise to global dominance.
    Get ready to dive into the captivating origins of techno and its incredible journey to become a socially acceptable genre, even finding its place in esteemed concert halls like the Berlin Philharmonic. Don't miss this immersive exploration of the genre that changed the world.
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    00:00 Introduction
    01:41 How Techno Came to Berlin
    04:17 Detroit: Birthplace of Techno
    08:23 From Underground to Mainstream
    13:19 What Exactly is Techno?
    17:06 From Clubs to Concert Halls

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  • @CuriouzComedian
    @CuriouzComedian 9 місяців тому +277

    Techno is everything. I'm 72 and dance on it ever Saturday and Sunday from midnight till 5 in the morning, but without alcohol or any drugs, totally sober. I drink only water.

    • @jeonlyxoxo
      @jeonlyxoxo 8 місяців тому +21

      I got you. A good real techno set. You don’t need nothing. Just water. 👏🏼👏🏼

    • @CoffeeAndPaul
      @CoffeeAndPaul 7 місяців тому +6

      47 & the main reason I keep in shape & flexible is so I can keep dancing.
      Massv respekt!

    • @waldwassermann
      @waldwassermann 7 місяців тому +2

      That's OK. I still love you man.

    • @waldwassermann
      @waldwassermann 7 місяців тому +2

      Yes. I know we came out of the water too. Good to keep it handy. @@jeonlyxoxo

    • @osalas36
      @osalas36 6 місяців тому +2

      This is gonna be me. Even if I'm 90, my nursing home companions are gonna hate me blasting my techno

  • @AZ-vv1rf
    @AZ-vv1rf 9 місяців тому +1086

    As a Berliner, it's weird to me, that the city still continues to get praise for it's clubs and the music being played there. We are weeell past the glory days and everything has been long commercialized and washed down by way too many and too generic DJs. And the city does it's best to actually kill off the parts of the scene, that still have a DIY element to it and where people are actually about creativity and not about "I've played in *insert famous club*", by shutting down venues and criminalizing raves. I'd love to see this music grow somewhere else, where the grass is still wet.

    • @gehtdichnichtsan2477
      @gehtdichnichtsan2477 9 місяців тому +144

      yeah you absolutely right , but its still on a another level in comparison to other citys... where you have maybe 2 Techno Clubs. And a bad Techno Club in Berlin, is a very good Techno Club in most of the Citys in the World. There are other Party Citys, but come on Ibiza or what? :D
      You have a privileged perspective! But sadly to much Yuppies in Berlin

    • @stefanz9485
      @stefanz9485 9 місяців тому +163

      I started going to techno parties in Berlin in early 91.
      I moved to Berlin shortly afterwards.
      I am now 51 and still enjoy going to clubs here.
      While indeed some things were different in the 90s, the spirit is still alive in some places, and we still have a bunch of great clubs and a ton of great folks here.
      And the past is the past - we can’t go back.
      Compared to other cities, Berlin still has the best clubs/scene, and I am grateful for that

    • @ginzo666
      @ginzo666 9 місяців тому +36

      Yeah, the rave scene in the US died in the 90s really. The RAVE Act, of 2001 sponsored by Joe Biden of all things, was the final nail in the coffin. If some of these amazing old school DJs like Jeff Mills, etc. can make good money playing these festivals, then great for them!

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +33

      Thanks for sharing your opinion! A lot has definitely changed in the last few decades.

    • @Ontime2day
      @Ontime2day 9 місяців тому +10

      come to the southeast UNITED STATES. its alive and well

  • @ajamu4304
    @ajamu4304 Місяць тому +31

    As a Detroiter in my mid 50s, its always a pleasure to see our once underground culture now globalized and making the world dance.

    • @fgjr96way
      @fgjr96way Місяць тому

      people used to tell me "it is not going to last"

    • @stizan9185
      @stizan9185 25 днів тому +2

      Your? The sound of Juan Atkins , "father" of early Detroit Techno its definitely not the sound of modern techno with his early tracks like "Alleys Of Your Mind" / "Audio Tech", also techno its a pretty broad term developed throughout the years but its modern sound is heavily inspired and developed by eu rave scene and way different from early Detroit, all credit for what people call techno definitely dosen't go just to Detroit.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr 22 дні тому

      @@fgjr96way and those same ppl shelling out Hundreds if not THOUSANDS to watch some washed up HAS been Hair metal sell outs to this DAY. SMDH LOL

  • @Aceman4Ever
    @Aceman4Ever 9 місяців тому +188

    I am German, 1984, Techno is something that reaches me on a very deep level. Amazing emotions and I love to dance to it. I never took ecstasy because this amazing feeling comes naturally, just through the music. I can not explain why I love Techno so much more than other music genres.Sometimes when I listen and dance to a good DJ it feels like tribal music, a trance that I naturally love to move to. It feels like it actives stored emotions/instincs from the past. It also helps me imminently to let go of stress and anxiety because of the positive emotions I get from it. I cannot explain it differently, sorry.

    • @fellahamine7068
      @fellahamine7068 9 місяців тому +16

      I think that my experience has been similar to yours. I naturally enjoy techno without the need to take any drugs. People notice that I'm having a lot of fun and approach me asking for drugs. It's sad when you see a lot of young people becoming dependant on drugs in order to have a good time.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +14

      I think you explained it beautifully. Thanks for sharing!

    • @funkndeep
      @funkndeep 9 місяців тому +6

      Yes! Same here! A natural, spiritual high 😌🕺🏻🔊

    • @funkndeep
      @funkndeep 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@fellahamine7068this happens to me ALL the time. People always ask me if I'm rolling and I get so sad when they ask me this. The music is enough 🖤

    • @Aceman4Ever
      @Aceman4Ever 8 місяців тому +2

      @@fellahamine7068 your experience being asked for drugs matches mine. Frequently people notice how I am having a great time and think „I must be on something good“. Once somebody even got aggressive because he would not believe that I am not on something and that I have nothing. He thought I was ditching/lying to him and he wanted to kick my ass! 😝. Also good to hear that are people out there that feel the same.

  • @EvanJKwok
    @EvanJKwok 9 місяців тому +321

    The rave is one of the most important spaces in society, influencing the zeitgeist, fashion, music & culture of society. In today's society it's one of the few spaces that brings together people from all backgrounds in presence, in a low state of ego, for extended periods. A medium & a melting pot for self expression & the opening of the mind. A microcosm of possibility. Techno's true power is it's ability to act like a decentralised, communal, global glue, helping us to realise how we are all connected through the universal language of sound.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +10

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us and our community.

    • @bakerg_
      @bakerg_ 9 місяців тому +4

      wow, thanks for sharing this words man ❤

    • @dumpsky
      @dumpsky 9 місяців тому +6

      that's actually very nicely put.

    • @femmegem1394
      @femmegem1394 9 місяців тому +3

      Facts

    • @EvanJKwok
      @EvanJKwok 9 місяців тому +12

      I've been lucky to live around the world & attend so many different music events spending the last 4 in London. My appreciation for techno grew when I travelled to Leipzig & Berlin for a month to see if I want to move there. While I was dancing on stage at Sisyphos, I looked down & it was one of those surreal moments where you think where I am, what world is this, this is surreal. I saw so many faces, stories, energies, forms of expression all dancing together as one & I thought this is how the world can be! As someone who tends to overthink & philosophise a lot a rave helps me get out of my head & also move my body in ways I didn't think possible. I always meet so many interesting ppl!

  • @ntro9347
    @ntro9347 9 місяців тому +649

    It's a bit unfortunate that there is no mention of what happened before Detroit. In particular Kraftwerk, EBM, New Beat from Belgium, the New Wave and Italo disco scene were hugely important in shaping that Detroit techno sound. It's also safe to say that it is not just Berlin that has been important over the years. Warp records were doing techno way before Berlin, we had Djax up Beats in The Netherlands, hugely underrated is the scene from The Hague Netherlands (Bunker Records, I-F, Unit Moebius, Legowelt, etc) who have been largely responsible for the electro revival. Berlin is cool, but a wee bit hyped and way past the early days of Basic Channel and Hardwax.

    • @0x0abb
      @0x0abb 9 місяців тому +51

      Right. And let’s not forget Industrial or sometimes called Electro - Front 242, Skinny Puppy, Nitzer Ebb, Ministry

    • @pistolen87
      @pistolen87 9 місяців тому +4

      Hear hear!

    • @memmem77
      @memmem77 9 місяців тому +3

      @@0x0abb exactly, first techno from Germany is from the mid 80s

    • @dennisgamble7901
      @dennisgamble7901 9 місяців тому

      This has an agenda and telling the truth would go against it

    • @johanemaposse6005
      @johanemaposse6005 9 місяців тому +5

      Might I recommend the "welcome to the eighties" series from Arte?

  • @gunn3r245
    @gunn3r245 9 місяців тому +88

    I think everybody forgets that Frankfurt is actually the city that brought Techno to Germany and made it big. Nowadays Berlin just screams Techno all the time but became kind of mainstream in many ways.

    • @michaelr.8402
      @michaelr.8402 9 місяців тому +7

      not everybody. "gude laune"...💥

    • @diamondspearradio926
      @diamondspearradio926 9 місяців тому +2

      This video is talking about the genre techno.Your thinking of techno as in the name for EDM.

    • @larsxyz5626
      @larsxyz5626 9 місяців тому +1

      The origins of Techno/ Trance is in fact from Frankfurt, by @Talla 2XLC
      The year was 1981, he was inspired by Kraftwerk, and he named the term of the music style as techno, see the video
      In 1984 he started TechnoClub in Frankfurt
      Later was Front 242, later again Techno came to the US (Detroit)
      But the origins came from Germany
      Talla 2XLC interview, 30 Years of Technoclub, Frankfurt, 2014.
      ua-cam.com/video/CNkv_UJd7k4/v-deo.html

    • @zarcon85
      @zarcon85 9 місяців тому +6

      Frankfurt+Nürnberg=Berlin Techno 1989....No discussion cuz i saw It all happening back then..,and yes, before "Techno" there was "Electro"....and the Transition from one Thing To the other happened via Juan Atkins...from "Cybotron" To "Model 500" ..basically the three First cities To have Venues (and Wharehouseparties😂) playing 4/4 Electronic Dancemusic under the moniker "Techno" were Frankfurt and Nürnberg. When the wall came down, "Berlin" was basically built by locals and Lots of people rushing there from F. and N. to basically start It all Up, Like WE all know It today...

    • @dpt6849
      @dpt6849 9 місяців тому

      Frankfurt Terrorist aka Marc Acardipane aka Marshall Masters aka Inferno Brothers.
      I like it loud.
      Slaves to the rave.
      6 million ways to die.

  • @DWHistoryandCulture
    @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +31

    Dear users,
    because many of you have asked for the tracks from this episode of 'Arts Unveiled', we are posting them here in the comments. We couldn't reconstruct some tracks, so we rely on your help. If you notice anything missing, please post it under this comment, and we will continuously update the list. Thanks for your support!
    Tracklist: How Techno was Born
    0:15 - 0:25 Reality - Ellen Allien (BPitch Control)
    0:35 - 0:42 Clear - Cybotron (Fantasy)
    0:50 - 1:05 Autobahn - Barrie Gledden et al (Audio Network)
    1:10 - 1:30 Berlin Minimal - George Giorgia (Audio Network)
    1:45 - 2:15 Cyber Trolls - Igor Dvorkin et al (Audio Network)
    3:05 - 3:25 Sound vom loop Tresor Archivmaterial (ohne Angabe)
    3:35 - 3:50 Session 1 - Juan Atkins (Tresor Records)
    3:50 - 4:05 Blake Baxter @ Loveparade 1996 Tresor Archivmaterial (ohne Angabe)
    4:25 - 4:35 Alleys of your Mind - Cybotron (Deep Space)
    4:50 - 5:05 Alleys of your Mind - Cybotron (Deep Space)
    6:07 - 6:26 Detroitism (Generator) -DJ T-1000
    8:45 - 8:58 Detroitism (Generator) -DJ T-1000
    6:33 - 6:44 Memoir (Symbolism) - ANNE
    7:17 - 7:27 Cutting In - Patrick DSP (Interruption Records)
    8:30 - 8:45 Blake Baxter @ Loveparade 1996 Tresor Archivmaterial (ohne Angabe)
    9:10 - 9:22 Unclean Spirit - Blush Response (Sonic Groove)
    9:35 - 9:50 Blake Baxter @ Loveparade 1996 Tresor Archivmaterial (ohne Angabe)
    10:10 - 10:20 For An Angel - Paul van Dyk
    10: 37 - 10:50 Paul van Dyk @ Loveparade 1996 Tresor Archivmaterial (ohne Angabe)
    11:33 - 11:43 Ellen Allien @ Loveparade 1996 Tresor Archivmaterial (ohne Angabe)
    11:43 - 12:10 KCKC - Ellen Allien (BPitch Control)
    13:25 - 13:45 Jupiter Beach - Alexis Smith & Joe Henson et al (Audio Network)
    14:35 - 14:45 Cyber Trolls - Igor Dvorkin et al (Audio Network)
    15:40 - 15:50 LOVE - Ellen Allien (BPitch Control)
    16:20 - 16:40 LOVE - Ellen Allien (BPitch Control)
    17:10 - 17:50 Thought Process - Infiniti (Tresor)
    17:55 - 18:30 The Berlin Session 1- Juan Atkins (Tresor Records)
    18:40 - 18:45 The Berlin Session 1- Juan Atkins (Tresor Records)
    19:30 - 19:45 Dystopia (Original Mix) - Rebūke (Drumcode)

    • @MonguRice
      @MonguRice 9 місяців тому +1

      Thank You 🙏🏿 so much for the Playlist x for this awesome documentary ♥️

    • @barmadelic
      @barmadelic 9 місяців тому

      Ahghh, the one I'm after is just a loop. Thanks for the list tho!

    • @kirwan308
      @kirwan308 7 місяців тому +1

      The Blake Baxter loop is sick. If anyone knows what it is 🙏🏼

  • @Frisbieinstein
    @Frisbieinstein 8 місяців тому +19

    Techno came from Kraftwerk and Tokyo's Yellow Magic Orchestra. The latter appeared on Soul Train.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching! We are currently working on a video about Kraftwerk, which will also be featured in our series „Arts Unveiled“. So stay tuned and subscribe to our channel so you don't miss it.

    • @Du-Moulin
      @Du-Moulin 2 місяці тому +2

      @@DWHistoryandCulture So techno has White and Yellow roots as well.

    • @fgjr96way
      @fgjr96way Місяць тому

      Yes.. Yellow Magic Orchestra a classic group that should have their day

    • @stizan9185
      @stizan9185 25 днів тому

      ​@@Du-Moulin The modern sound of techno is pretty much the most heavily inspired by wt, the sound of Juan Atkins , "father" of early Detroit Techno its definitely not the sound of modern techno with his early tracks like "Alleys Of Your Mind", also techno its a pretty broad term developed throughout the years but its modern sound is heavily inspired and developed by eu rave scene and way different from early Detroit, all credit for what people call techno definitely dosen't go just to Detroit to say that's where it comes from, not even gonna mention the actual roots of elec dance music go bck to Kraftwerk Man made machine/Computerwelt albums

    • @urmumsbaps
      @urmumsbaps 11 днів тому

      @@Du-Moulin calling asian people yellow isn't OK. Techno has inclusive roots, so maybe work on not being racist?

  • @grambo4436
    @grambo4436 9 місяців тому +168

    For me for the dj, club & rave subculture to survive it must reject mainstream influences and get back intouch with its underground roots in order to find its rhythm, energy, vibe, crowd and audience that understood its meaning, art and message its trying to convey.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your story and thoughts. We truly appreciate diverse perspectives.

    • @VJKaiC
      @VJKaiC 9 місяців тому +4

      Everything is constantly changing and it is unstoppable. I also miss the sounds of the 90s and the good old heavy Detroit tecno and house music (which is now sold as house ... puke) - but that's the way it is. A new generation demands their own music.

    • @grambo4436
      @grambo4436 9 місяців тому +6

      @@VJKaiC Yes, But i also want them to know where it stems from and how it sounded. Especially Trance, House & Techno you name it.

    • @IsaacSMILE
      @IsaacSMILE 9 місяців тому +7

      Music/techno/dance etc will never die, that's absurd.
      There will be a mainstream 'business techno' economy and a true underground scene run by smaller 'purist' groups who are not driven by profit and social media engagement but by musical experience, a sense of freedom and expression.

    • @stefanz9485
      @stefanz9485 9 місяців тому +7

      ⁠@@IsaacSMILEou are right. In the second half of the 90s we had the first phase of „techno going mainstream“ (in a very ugly way) and back then I was scared that the commercial wave would kill the underground…
      The opposite happened, the mainstream commercial techno died out quickly back then, and the underground strived.
      We since then had the same development a few times, but in the end „the underground never dies“

  • @tupac1971ful
    @tupac1971ful 9 місяців тому +53

    Moved in Berlin 2 years ago. After adapting to the City, I fell in love with the Techno. Having visited other major European cities, nobody can argue that Berlin still has one of the best scenes out there.
    I really love watching these videos, learning about the roots of this genre and how it developed to be what it is today.
    I was unlucky not to live those glorious days. Currently what really bothers me is that the scene got greatly commercialized, big events are about profit and the smartphones along with the great visual effects during those events seem to be taking off many things that Techno had to offer during its emergence.
    But still in Berlin there are places for people to listen to Techno, dance and forget about the outer world while being there, where as much as possible cameras are turned off.
    I get why the older ones feel that the scene has changed and it surely has, but that goes with everything in life. So I think we should embrace these changes while not forgetting what the scene is meant to represent.

    • @luttmatten3967
      @luttmatten3967 9 місяців тому +2

      as said in the report: "the main job is, to keep the dancefloor in action and the audience smiling" .... the older ones should stop complaining about changes in life and do what they did when they were young: enjoy music, be happy, make people around you happy. Berlin has changed only for the old ones. For the young ones visiting Berlin, especially those from normal sized towns, the city and the club culture here is still amazing... but of course in context of today and their life, not that of young people from 35 years ago :-).
      p.s.: greetings from another berlinian. an average older one :D

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому

      Thank you for sharing your story. We appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with our community.

    • @losfogo7149
      @losfogo7149 8 місяців тому

      I've been lcubbing in berlin half a dozen times and in all places they made me cover the phone camera and there was little to no visual. Isn't that common there?

    • @tupac1971ful
      @tupac1971ful 8 місяців тому

      @@losfogo7149 it's really common indeed. Only at techno events you won't have your camera covered. Maybe also at some more touristic clubs but have not gone to one of those to speak.

  • @scharlie1978
    @scharlie1978 9 місяців тому +31

    Whether Berlin or Detroit were the first, one forgets that techno was already being played in Frankfurt am Main in 1982 at the Dorian Gray. In 1984, DJ Talla founded the techno club there. The club was also unique in the world at the time, as there was no curfew at Frankfurt Airport and you could party around the clock! A(O)MEN

    • @memmem77
      @memmem77 9 місяців тому +8

      exactly this, first techno releases from Germany date back to the mid 80s, as per Discogs

    • @robthatcher1817
      @robthatcher1817 9 місяців тому

      1981 in Detroit........ Detroit invented it stop trying to steal that

    • @franz9573
      @franz9573 9 місяців тому +11

      @@memmem77 In the past, there was always this battle between Frankfurt and Berlin, which is the techno capital. However, techno definitely existed earlier in Frankfurt than in Berlin. In Berlin it was also more trancy, whereas in Frankfurt the beats were harder. But we must also highlight the Belgian productions, before with New Beat and from 1990 with Techhouse. Techno music from Belgium made techno really popular. Labels such as R&S, Bonzai, Music Man, Diki etc..

    • @memmem77
      @memmem77 9 місяців тому +3

      @@franz9573 agreed, fully. Frankfurt started their own experiments under Tallah, Bigod20, No UFO, Robotiko etc. Berlin adopted the style from Frankfurt and Detroit,

    • @madmas2798
      @madmas2798 9 місяців тому +5

      don't forget kraftwerke and Tangerine dream in the 70's

  • @Magyar9Andras
    @Magyar9Andras 9 місяців тому +40

    As a Berliner I must say that the huge difference between the glorious 80s/90s/2000s techno era and today's techno in Berlin is, that we lived it underground back then, it was a special cosmos we could escape during the weekends...Friday evening in, Monday morning out...then back to our work and repeat it next weekend...no one out there knew...it's very different now but still proud that Berlin is the capital of Techno!

    • @ntro9347
      @ntro9347 9 місяців тому

      it really isn't. Techno has so many capitals. Berlin is only one cog in the wheel.

    • @felipepetersberchielli1651
      @felipepetersberchielli1651 9 місяців тому +8

      i always giggle at such nostalgic commentaries, the newer generation is always worse and blabla, nonsense, Techno scene is bigger, more diverse and accessible, there is something for everyone out there

    • @ntro9347
      @ntro9347 9 місяців тому +8

      @@felipepetersberchielli1651 Perhaps if you had experienced the days of past you wouldn't be making this comment. The mobile phone - aware that they can be recorded - crowd is a far cry from those jacking in the late 80's, early 90's. Kids these days really need to learn how to party.

    • @layditms2
      @layditms2 9 місяців тому +3

      @@felipepetersberchielli1651 lol not more diverse at all. This era is a massive imitation era.

    • @layditms2
      @layditms2 9 місяців тому +2

      @@felipepetersberchielli1651 That is the opposite of diverse. There is so much rehash.
      And the rehashers are the nostalgic ones.
      VVhich makes your Comment hilarious

  • @Sycokay
    @Sycokay 9 місяців тому +10

    There was a saying in the 90s: Techno is music sounding like machines, and Trance is machines sounding like music.

  • @dbars201
    @dbars201 9 місяців тому +46

    Thankfully Blake Baxter made an appearance in this. Early Detroit pioneer whose name is not nearly as known as the belleville 3, but deserves respect for shaping the sound in the earliest days of techno

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.

    • @Fabi_87
      @Fabi_87 9 місяців тому +5

      Yeah been an EDM lover for decades and always thought its roots where here in Europe but just recently learned its roots actually where from America specifically African Amercan culture. But it seems like Americans didn't take a liking too it too the same level as Europeans.

    • @ntro9347
      @ntro9347 9 місяців тому +4

      well, he's the prince of techno afterall

    • @ceeej1290
      @ceeej1290 9 місяців тому

      100%

  • @chimutaku
    @chimutaku 9 місяців тому +9

    Sad Yellow Magic Orchestra doesn’t get the recognition they deserve 😔

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +3

      There are many talented and influential DJs and bands that we couldn't cover in this episode of 'Arts Unveiled'. But we hope to be able to make up for it in the future.

    • @Du-Moulin
      @Du-Moulin 2 місяці тому

      ​@@DWHistoryandCulture They don't get the recognition because they are Yellow and not Black.

  • @RPBtoday
    @RPBtoday 9 місяців тому +32

    Chicago gets no credit? Detroit did not start making techno, they were producing House music. Techno began with acid house and Ron Hardy was the first dj in the world to strip vocals & speed up the BPMs at the Music Box. Detroit cats were producing for labels in Chicago, even the first unofficial Techno track was written by Thomas Barnett called Nude Photo was distributed by Gherkin Records from Chicago on Derrick Mays Transmat label. Also forgotten is the long lost Techno scene in LA, which gave way to Gangster Rap & Hip Hop. Detroit transplant Andre Manuel aka Unknown DJ moved to LA around 1981 and produced electro & Hip Hop, he was the first to coin the term Techno on his Techno Hop label in 1984. Techno Hop label birthed modern West Coast Hip Hop with Ice T's 6 in da Morning. Also Juan Atkins never really produced in Cybotron, it was Rik Davis who needs to be credited, he is the one who pioneered Detroit electro/techno production and djs Delano Smith & Ken Collier (RIP) pioneered Detroit House./Techno Dj scene. Somebody needs to make a real documentary about the real roots of the movement, not the white washed UK version of the story of Techno & House

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us and our community. In this video from our "Arts Unveiled" series, we focused on Detroit and Berlin. However, it's true that Techno is also home to other cities like Chicago or Frankfurt. Thank you for watching.

    • @Flashback_Jack
      @Flashback_Jack 9 місяців тому +1

      Detroit was doing electro and disco before techno. House music was Chicago's thing, inspired heavily by the New York disco scene. Detroit started branching out into 4/4 music stripped of vocals after some friendly back-and-forths with Chicago once House started blowing up. Chronologically speaking the genre of Techno is younger than House music by a few years.
      Techno is NOT acid house--I wish people would stop making this silly mistake. By that logic, you'd be contradicting yourself when you say "Nude Photo" was the first "unofficial" techno track given that Phuture's Acid Trax was the first acid house track.

    • @HouseMusicDefined
      @HouseMusicDefined 9 місяців тому +6

      I’m born in Detroit. Raised in LA. I was in Detroit in the summer of 1981. That summer “Alley Of Your Mind” , “Sharivari” and Was Not Was “Out acomes The Freaks” along with Kraftwerk’s “Number”. That summer the term that was used for this new music in 1981 Detroit was “Techno Beat”. When I came back to LA for school that fall my aunt introduced me to her friend since I came back from Detroit into dee jaying. Her friend moved back to Chicago. He was Ronnie to me. He is known to the world as Ron Hardy. My point is there were no Chicago records yet! I will say that when Chicago started to make records it was amazing!

    • @ntro9347
      @ntro9347 9 місяців тому +1

      @@HouseMusicDefined Ron Hardy's Sensation on Trax was an awesome track!

    • @alanmodimages
      @alanmodimages 9 місяців тому +1

      @@HouseMusicDefined A lot was happening back then. I grew up in Detroit and in 1981, we were just coming out of "New Wave". That's when the storm of Cybotron, Shari Vari and Kraftwerk hit. Many influences and maybe it is a continuity thing. But to tune in to this documentary and see people say that Detroit just "adopted" sounds and then called it Techno, is like saying that Chicago just "adopted" music and created House. There's a reason why we have both House and Techno. Thanks for the reference to Ron Hardy. With his "pitched up" mixes, he influenced the Detroit cats who went to his parties to do something. They couldn't call it House in Detroit, so they called it "Techno, the new Detroit Sound". Of course we grew up with Kraftwerk, Italo Disco, and the B52's, just like Chicago grew up with Disco and the Philly Sound. It's the innovation that eventually created something new in 1985 and 1986.

  • @thomasmcroy1756
    @thomasmcroy1756 3 місяці тому +5

    Juan is giving me an Obi Wan vibe with his earthy outfit. Im loving it. Thanks for the great music.

  • @djtv7777
    @djtv7777 9 місяців тому +17

    Techno is the genre that always brings something new and unique into your life. I love it so much

    • @sensorycircuits1338
      @sensorycircuits1338 9 місяців тому

      Techno is by definition a very exploratory type of music. Still tons of freshness in the modular/euro rack scene with some very smart people making fantastic noise machines.

  • @julianton3340
    @julianton3340 9 місяців тому +30

    Kraftwerk was one of the first, if not THE pioneers, in the development of techno.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  8 місяців тому +9

      Thanks for watching. We are currently working on a video about Kraftwerk, which will also be featured in our series „Arts Unveiled“. So stay tuned and subscribe to our channel so you don't miss it.

    • @chrisb6296
      @chrisb6296 8 місяців тому +4

      Louder for those at the back. Any mention of T's origins without K is nonsense

    • @rjonzun5828
      @rjonzun5828 6 місяців тому +3

      @@chrisb6296 There would have been no early 80's electro funk here in the USA without Kraftwerk.

    • @patrickvanhove8586
      @patrickvanhove8586 6 місяців тому

      just one example of bands before kraftwerk..song of 1959
      ua-cam.com/video/jZdN2qfQkHc/v-deo.html

    • @raet8081
      @raet8081 3 місяці тому

      Kraftwerk were not techno, Disco had more of a role in technos creation.

  • @tris421
    @tris421 9 місяців тому +159

    Techno made in Detroit influenced by German electronic music using Japanese gear. Techno is a global genre,

    • @pistolen87
      @pistolen87 9 місяців тому +8

      The lack of lyrics makes techno universal. It's a primal feeling.

    • @memmem77
      @memmem77 9 місяців тому +7

      don't forget that they were making techno in the mid 80s in Frankfurt already

    • @Goliath-rn4vi
      @Goliath-rn4vi 9 місяців тому +1

      By that logic, every music genre is a global genre.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +6

      Yes very true. thank you for your comment ... and not to forget the influence of other European electronic music
      .... and mostly forgotten: pioneering musicians like Don Lewis who helped a lot to develop not only Japanese gear. A good read is: articles.roland.com/tadao-kikumoto-exclusive-conversation/

    • @Curling_Rack
      @Curling_Rack 9 місяців тому +4

      P.L.U.R.

  • @cotedubois
    @cotedubois 9 місяців тому +56

    This must have been the most incomplete documentary on the 'origin' of techno I have ever seen.
    This doc gives the impression some guys in Detroid tinkerd with some electronics and voila: you have techno!
    Techno came from afrobeat, disco, house and new beat!
    Greetings from Belgium 🇧🇪 !

    • @adj789
      @adj789 9 місяців тому +13

      no mention of Kraftwerk or Micheal Alig

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
      We are currently working on a video about Kraftwerk, which will also be featured in our series "Arts Unveiled". So stay tuned and subscribe to our channel so you don't miss it.

    • @apathuntold
      @apathuntold 9 місяців тому

      srsly

    • @zolawilliams1
      @zolawilliams1 9 місяців тому +4

      Yes I agree. This was waaaay too short. Was hoping to see and hear more about Detroit... the connections between Detroit and Berlin, more art... Drexciya... Robert Hood.. there's so much more ground to cover. DW don't let us down!

    • @ntro9347
      @ntro9347 9 місяців тому +2

      @@adj789 Alig is more house than techno. I also fail to see why a glorified promotor should be mentioned.

  • @alenmaia6514
    @alenmaia6514 9 місяців тому +10

    Kraftwerk is not Techno, it's the same as saying that James Brown did Hip Hop.
    This documentary is great, it gave credit to the originators of Techno.

    • @alenmaia6514
      @alenmaia6514 9 місяців тому +3

      @@petraliebkind9309
      Facts are facts, there's no need to get personal over known musical recorded history, Kraftwerk is not Techno, Parliament is not Techno.
      Wiley invented Grime, it doesn't matter who he listened to, each genre of music has its originators, get your facts right.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us and our community. You might be interested to hear that we are currently working on a video about Kraftwerk, which will also be featured in our series "Arts Unveiled" very soon. So stay tuned and subscribe to our channel so you don't miss it.
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      We look forward to stimulating discussions and a lively exchange of views.

  • @woodybalfour8213
    @woodybalfour8213 9 місяців тому +598

    Interesting that Kraftwerk was left out of this

    • @neptunevibe
      @neptunevibe 9 місяців тому +101

      they are not Techno.. is about techno and is coming from Detroit

    • @stefanz9485
      @stefanz9485 9 місяців тому +151

      You are both right 😅
      Kraftwerk is not techno, but basically all the Detroit grandmasters name Kraftwerk as one of their big influences…(though not in this video)

    • @alenmaia6514
      @alenmaia6514 9 місяців тому +30

      And Parliament and other funk bands too.
      Kraft is not Techno, it is what it is.

    • @e.d.8215
      @e.d.8215 9 місяців тому +101

      ​@@neptunevibeIt's all electric music that influences each other. It's complete nonsense that techno hasn't been influenced by other styles of music. It is wrong to say that techno was invented out of thin air exclusively by African-Americans. For example, music by Kraftwerk had a lot in common with techno. It was merely slower.
      Moreover, the Japanese manufacturer of these formative instruments by Roland should not be disregarded here. And music was produced with synthesizers long before that.
      But the contribution of the African Americans from Detroit was certainly groundbreaking and extremely important for the genre, I do not want to minimize that. But I find this narrow-minded view of the origin of Techno very problematic.

    • @diemes5463
      @diemes5463 9 місяців тому +41

      ​@@e.d.8215 the video is documenting the origins of a single genre, not the entire history of electronic music, which goes far beyond Kraftwerk. The presentation is not disingenuous, just limited in scope.

  • @classicallpvault8251
    @classicallpvault8251 9 місяців тому +11

    The earliest proto-forms of techno are found in the work of German bands like Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream. Kraftwerk were using 4-to-the-floor beats exactly like found in techno tracks as early as 1973 and some of these tracks could actually be played in a modern set. Not the music, but the rave scene around it emerged in the US. Techno itself stems from electro, which started off in the German rock scene when synthesizers and drum machines took the place of guitars and drum kits.
    Then there's the melodic side of electronic music, e.g. trance, which is based on 1970s space rock bands like Space and of course the composer Jean-Michel Jarre. The US was the birthplace of house though, which emerged when producers started sampling funk and disco records over a drum machine beat, making both house as a genre as well as its precursors native to the US.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing your insights!

    • @zochbuppet448
      @zochbuppet448 6 місяців тому

      Yes.
      But Even house was influenced by the German electronic music.
      House music morphed out of Electro music. Electro was a combination of German/ UK electronic influence and funk/ black dance music

    • @fgjr96way
      @fgjr96way Місяць тому

      Sometimes I dont care where it started but when you work together you make beautiful sounds of music, long live Disco and Techno Music

  • @darinbauer8122
    @darinbauer8122 9 місяців тому +21

    Yes, techno gets me moving. ❤

  • @zacharydavis4398
    @zacharydavis4398 9 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for spending doing the time to create and share this content

  • @powerrangers16712
    @powerrangers16712 9 місяців тому +14

    Never like Techno previously. But during my blackest period few years back, gave it a chance. And yes, Techno, particularly CDW, saved me during those times. Now this is the only dance music I listened to, plus Nora En Pure.

  • @toddw3nzel639
    @toddw3nzel639 9 місяців тому +11

    I live in the Metro Detroit Area. I’m “new” to the REAL scene. Last two years I’ve TRULY started digging into what House and Techno is. Movement Featival (Once DEMF) really opened my eyes to the talent that has come to Detroit.
    Small clubs in Detroit on any given night can have the names of some of the best: Eddie Fowlkes, Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson, Daniel Bell, Stacey Pullen, Carl Craig, Norm Talley, Delano Smith, Mike (Agent X) Clark, the list goes on and on.
    AUX88 playing at Spotlite 8/18/2023🙌🏼

    • @Beaneumann
      @Beaneumann 9 місяців тому +3

      Detroit's techno pioneers received very little local support aside from family and close friends. Public acknowledgement of Detroit's musical legacy, historic relevance in dance music is relatively recent. Paxahau nearly white-washed Detroit by taking away Movement Festival time slots from local heroes to showcase RA Top 40 favourites for over a decade until a couple of years ago. Charivari Detroit is mostly local, with a friends-and-family atmosphere (true to the spirit of the city) - and yet largely overlooked by the "Detroit Pioneer loving' Movement crowd. There is no thriving local club scene in Detroit today either and neither of the cities greats can fill a dance floor larger than a dive bar on the 361 days when Movement isn't happening. Most of the love, support and big $ bookings are coming from NYC, LA, Europe and the rest of the world.

    • @fgjr96way
      @fgjr96way Місяць тому +1

      @@Beaneumann Agree, they do not get local support a DEMF will come around Memorial Day weekend ,put on a show, and then its over zip, not a word or a care, I stopped going downtown cause it is not the same. Motor Detroit, Zoo in Windsor, Clutch Cargos and Industry in Pontiac those were great times. even blasting the radio of "may day mixing" on WJLB in the neighborhood was fun. That IS WHY IN OTHER COUNTRIES IT IS respected more than here, most people don't like music without words

  • @Disco_Biscuit_X
    @Disco_Biscuit_X 9 місяців тому +5

    Kraftwerk??? I mean come on even the original detroit DJs recognise them as hugely influential in the orgins of dance music

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for your feedback. We are currently working on a video about Kraftwerk, which will also be featured in our series „Arts Unveiled“. So stay tuned and subscribe to our channel so you don't miss it.

  • @samdavison-wall4972
    @samdavison-wall4972 8 місяців тому +5

    Think Kraftwerk really deserves a mention here.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank your for that comment, yes, Kraftwerk was a influence for techno music, but it was just before the genre evolved.

    • @3b17
      @3b17 3 місяці тому

      Krafwerk is not techno.

  • @manjininja76
    @manjininja76 9 місяців тому +23

    For me Techno is a progression of what acts like Kraftwerk were doing in the 70's. What sets Techno apart from other genre's is it's machine like rhythm & unashamedly robotic/ synthetic flavour.

    • @ThePorkChopExpress67
      @ThePorkChopExpress67 9 місяців тому +8

      Agreed and there's video evidence of kraftwerk from 1970 playing techno at the rockpalast and available on UA-cam, glad someone has said this other than myself 👍

    • @demanu
      @demanu 9 місяців тому +7

      Came to say the same thing. It started with Kraftwerk, not Detroit. When Kraftwerk came to Detroit, every Detroit hip hop/ techno artist came to pay tribute.

    • @ToriZealot
      @ToriZealot 9 місяців тому

      of course you are right, the media is just blatantly lying to us

    • @robthatcher1817
      @robthatcher1817 9 місяців тому +9

      Kraftwerk made electro or synth pop.... not techno....... Detroit took alot of what Chicago was doing with House................................. anyone with a brain knows the difference.

    • @Hi-hoe
      @Hi-hoe 9 місяців тому

      @@robthatcher1817totally agree. I dj and I would not play those 1970 Kraftwerk songs in a set. That would make everyone go drink

  • @dezolatestation
    @dezolatestation 9 місяців тому +27

    techno for me is still will be underground and always be underground

    • @layditms2
      @layditms2 9 місяців тому +1

      It has been mainstream since the nineties

    • @layditms2
      @layditms2 9 місяців тому

      it was mass mainstream in the nineties
      VVhat Generation are you ?

  • @nacarzzz
    @nacarzzz 9 місяців тому +68

    We definitely need a tracklist. There are so many good songs. Especially in Alan Oldham’s part.

    • @selimbenmansour9448
      @selimbenmansour9448 9 місяців тому +2

      I Repeat! we definitley need a track list!! there are so many fucking good songs!!!

    • @leojohnwayne1422
      @leojohnwayne1422 9 місяців тому +3

      Any luck ?
      3:57

    • @s_v6294
      @s_v6294 8 місяців тому +1

      yes please!!! we need it

    • @andervole5311
      @andervole5311 2 місяці тому +1

      min 17:13 is very nice TRACK , I LOVE THIS SOUND ... does anyone know what the name is? Greetings from Allgäu Bavaria :)

    • @MH4g1an1s
      @MH4g1an1s 2 місяці тому

      @@andervole5311 Infiniti - Thought Process. Hooked me too :)

  • @Aihiospace
    @Aihiospace 9 місяців тому +43

    The term 'techno' - in regard to a specific musical genre - certainly was coined in Detroit by the Belleville Three (Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson), after Alvin Toffler's concept of "techno-rebels" explored in his book Future Shock. Sonically, the roots of techno of course go way longer and deeper (eg. Luigi Russolo, Pierre Schaeffer, Delia Derbyshire, Kraftwerk, Afrika Bambaataa...), all converging on that new underground sound in Detroit. But it's quite reductive to present Berlin as the place where it all started in Europe when acid house parties and then techno raves had started happening around (Western and Northern) Europe more or less around the same time in the late 1980s. And I believe in Germany, Frankfurt was way ahead of Berlin, with DJs there using the term 'techno' already in the early 80s to describe "technologically created dance music". Berlin was one of the pioneers of techno CLUB culture, but as a birthplace of techno movement, it was just one among the many in Europe (albeit an important one, naturally).

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing your insights!

    • @kimkadish6232
      @kimkadish6232 7 місяців тому +1

      None of the B3 clowns ever read Alvin Toffler.

    • @skriptico
      @skriptico 6 місяців тому

      you 100% right my man.

    • @rjonzun5828
      @rjonzun5828 6 місяців тому

      @@kimkadish6232 Juan Atkins did. Why do you refer to them as clowns?

    • @zochbuppet448
      @zochbuppet448 6 місяців тому +1

      The current generation is so lazy when it comes to research
      Techno originated in EUROPE. It originated from GERMAN and UK electronic groups and acid house
      Techno surfaced in North America around 1993, after it became a part of the rave scene with Acid house in the UK in the late 80's and very early 90's.
      House Music originated in the U.S from Electro music
      The music made in Detroit in the 80's was a take on the Electro genre, a type of music that was extremely popular in the U.S and Canada around 1982 - 1984.
      House music came from the mixing of the ELECTRO genre with black dance music.
      People in Detroit in the 90's mixed the incoming Techno music from the Raves in the UK with house music.
      Enough of the laziness.
      And everyone keeps buying into the same laziness that is put out

  • @DJChidowandMyujikku
    @DJChidowandMyujikku 9 місяців тому +16

    For anyone looking for the track that plays between 3:50-4:03 and again at 9:34-9:50, is _Love Has Taken Over · Ground 96_
    It's sped up a bit. but after searching from Blake Baxter's live shows from Tresor, I found it.
    Edit #1: It's also Garage House, not Techno. Which means that House and Techno are much alike than how its stated in this documentary. Tech House is an oxymoron.

    • @jordanjohnson161
      @jordanjohnson161 9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks mate 😁

    • @philippelabrecque
      @philippelabrecque 9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I've been looking for it for a few days now.

    • @avantgarde8402
      @avantgarde8402 9 місяців тому

      Soon as I heard that kick and sound I needed to know the name ha . Nice one !

    • @aakoch6062
      @aakoch6062 6 місяців тому

      Anyone knows name of this track
      9:10 -9:22 ? Thank you

  • @thomasfeyand-kh2sm
    @thomasfeyand-kh2sm 9 місяців тому +22

    Kraftwerk is the DNA. Period.

    • @fgjr96way
      @fgjr96way Місяць тому

      George Clinton fans would disagree

  • @Zeal808
    @Zeal808 Місяць тому +2

    Electronic music heals just like every other genre of music. I believe in music. I love techno!

  • @sieje
    @sieje 9 місяців тому

    Fidget house dj here. Nashville. 2008-13. Great times. Thank you all originals

  • @jeonlyxoxo
    @jeonlyxoxo 8 місяців тому +4

    I discovered techno during the love parade Era. I didn’t need explanation. It just felt so right, the hypnotic BPM, the community feel. Detroit techno is certainly the best. But Berlin techno scene rules. Great doc!

    • @fgjr96way
      @fgjr96way Місяць тому

      Germany made it better

  • @Beee9393
    @Beee9393 5 місяців тому +4

    Techno is born in Rotterdam, Detriod is where it is only developed, not born. Before Detriod and before Berlin and even before Kraftwerk there was Parkzicht in Rotterdam it was the first time ever that a human on this planet could litterly hear techno.

  • @jonathaneffemey944
    @jonathaneffemey944 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks so much for posting

  • @ir8123
    @ir8123 9 місяців тому +2

    It cured my ptsd.Great doc keep them coming.

  • @nsdj031509
    @nsdj031509 9 місяців тому +27

    How sad that Techno & House have not found the appreciation they deserve in their own soil, and have found value and homage in Europe

    • @elliasonline
      @elliasonline 9 місяців тому +11

      This very much. Interviews with the Detroit originators and the Chicago house producers highlight that they were celebrities in the UK and unknown at home when they started their careers.

    • @nsdj031509
      @nsdj031509 9 місяців тому +4

      @elliasonline I also noticed that someone, either a record label, an individual, or an authority in the music industry has made sure that the US Billboard popularize pop and hip hop, and casted out the legendary 4 EDM genres (Breaks, House, Techno,Trance) to obscurity since the late 2000s, thus confusing the new generations of EDM into identifying pop as the "legendary" and "dominant" EDM genre, but as a purist, I must say that pop will never be accepted as legendary, since it has always stolen elements from the other 4.

    • @WorldIsWierd
      @WorldIsWierd 9 місяців тому +4

      It did you just dont listen to bounce, or jersey. Those are the black evolution of the sound.

    • @nsdj031509
      @nsdj031509 9 місяців тому

      @WorldIsWierd never heard of bounce and jersey, but I'll look into it, tnx a lot Brother👍

    • @aldj3159
      @aldj3159 9 місяців тому +7

      @@elliasonline There's a bit of a precedent that was set when black jazz musicians in the pre-WWII period also had to go to Europe (Paris, in particular) to pursue fame and some semblance of racial equality which they could not find in the USA.

  • @franz9573
    @franz9573 9 місяців тому +5

    As a frankfurter, i don't completely agree, of course. the Omen opened in 1988, the Dorian Gray in 1978. at the Dorian Gray, there was a club called Technoclub. Techno was already well established in Frankfurt in 1990, which you can not say about Berlin this started only in 1991. Berlin had Westbam, but Frankfurt had 16 Bit, Sven Väth, Thorsten Fenslau, who produced techno music before 1990. Detroit techno, however, has strongly influenced the techno scene in Germany and worldwide and also made it more danceable. German techno until 1989 was less danceable.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому

      Thank you for adding these valuable insights!

    • @maltrapikilo3720
      @maltrapikilo3720 8 місяців тому

      There was no Techno at the Omen in 1988. When you read Groove charts of Sven Väth from 1990 you see that he still played stuff like Rozalla and other commercial stuff next to early "Techno" tracks in early 1990.
      Techno in Frankfurt for a long time meant Front 242 and Nitzer EBB as this was what Talla played in the Technoclub. The program changed slightly in 1990 when the first 3h where purely Techno House before Talla took over and played EBM again.
      In the beginning everyone said Techno House not only Techno

    • @franz9573
      @franz9573 8 місяців тому

      @@maltrapikilo3720 sven väth played techno at the omen in the early days beginning at 3-4 o'clock in the morning, from the end of 1990 also earlier. From 1991 almost only techno, acid etc. Before that he played charts, but also hip house, house and RnB. Dr. Alban (Hello Africa) and live Rozalla (Everybody is free) also performed at the Omen. The audience at the Omen was rather snobby until mid-1990, after which it changed radically. The average age was also much older. I was 16 in 1988 and was also rejected. Had to put on a shirt and jacket. Mahmut the bouncer I could attract with cigarillos and I came in then. From 1991, the average age was 21. 24-25 before that. Most of the older audience moved to the Club Plastik (The White House) near the courthouse in Frankfurt.
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    • @franz9573
      @franz9573 8 місяців тому

      @@maltrapikilo3720 In addition, there was even the Music Hall in Frankfurt (Halle), but then closed in the early 90s. There were acid parties in 1988. Acid parties were around Frankfurt a lot in 1988, even in the dancing school Weiss in Offenbach or a disco in Offenbach where mainly migrants frequented (Name of the Club Agree).

    • @maltrapikilo3720
      @maltrapikilo3720 8 місяців тому

      @@franz9573 that's what Iam saying, so Frankfurt wasn't super early and Sven Väth not the first one who played only Techno.

  • @captainjosue
    @captainjosue 9 місяців тому +2

    I've been to Tresor and Detroit. I was at Movement festival in May. Love this music I love this scene.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +1

      Thank you very much for sharing your personal experience with us. Sending you all the best

  • @ryan8430
    @ryan8430 9 місяців тому +5

    Although Detroit techno started in the late 70's I remember going to the underground raves in Detroit as a teenager in the 90's and it was the funnest time of my life. The scene the venues the people the real MDMA the fort dodge ketaset and nitrous John's tanks that filled the after parties.

    • @SirAlexis1
      @SirAlexis1 9 місяців тому

      Interested in hearing some Detroit Techno from the late 70s. My earliest records are from around 1983. Please send some recommends ?

  • @Xo-Miss-Rose-oX
    @Xo-Miss-Rose-oX 9 місяців тому +16

    Long Live Techno💘💖

  • @untitled1464
    @untitled1464 9 місяців тому +13

    I remember watching a video years ago by some Detroit DJs that stated Kraftwerk and Depeche Mode-specifically Alan Wilder’s production on “Get The Balance Right” had a massive impact on Detroit house!

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences.

    • @Sabeeucb
      @Sabeeucb 8 місяців тому +1

      One my fav photo is with Dave Gahan and Derrick May in late 80's

  • @user-nb5sr7by6y
    @user-nb5sr7by6y 9 місяців тому +2

    The digital electronic age is finally starting to mature, and find itself. The techno sound is perfect for the emerging age.

  • @BeatCultureLDN
    @BeatCultureLDN 9 місяців тому

    Really good snapshot documentary of a specific culture & scene, relevant to two cities!

  • @ShaneInblack
    @ShaneInblack 9 місяців тому +12

    techno is the only thing that makes sense, it's a state of mind, a way to perceive the world and live, Techno saved me.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +2

      Thank you very much for sharing your personal experience with us. Sending you all the best

  • @rebekkariblet4500
    @rebekkariblet4500 9 місяців тому +4

    I was born in Berlin and watched techno grow

  • @johngonzalez8313
    @johngonzalez8313 Місяць тому +1

    As a native Detroiter, I’m proud to say I am one of the original members of the music Institute or the MI as we used to call it or the toot…
    Best years of my teenage life thank you Derek, George Alton, Kevin, Juan, and Chez for amazing memories

    • @fgjr96way
      @fgjr96way Місяць тому

      AGREE but no mention of the Scene or New Dance Show we were having good times and thanks to WJLB,WGPR,POWER 96 AND 88.7 KEEPING THE MUSIC GOING

  • @tonatiuh1150
    @tonatiuh1150 9 місяців тому +1

    Oh! And a special thank you to Juan Atkins! Thank you!

  • @philipstewart4474
    @philipstewart4474 5 днів тому

    My only regret in my entire DJ experience was playing for the crowd and Owners and Staff and even the Kitchen Staff. But when I was with friends and ecstasy, I would almost always play Techno, because WHY NOT, it wouldn’t work in the Venues I’ve played but if there was one Club on one night playing Techno, it would be SOLD OUT, and why not.
    🔊🔊🔊💃🕺🔊🔊🔊

  • @plutostube
    @plutostube 8 місяців тому +3

    Kraftwerk was ahead of their time, and that was the sparkle

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  8 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for watching. We are currently working on a video about Kraftwerk, which will also be featured in our series „Arts Unveiled“. So stay tuned and subscribe to our channel so you don't miss it.

  • @MrHannessie
    @MrHannessie 8 місяців тому +3

    I did not like techno until I had made some visuals that would fit great to techno music. I wanted to produce the track for the visuals myself so I had to study techno first. When I was "stuck" listning to a loop I had made, I suddenly got the appeal of techno.

  • @dccrowley
    @dccrowley 9 місяців тому

    ❤ this.love hearing the originals again

  • @rebeccahodges3106
    @rebeccahodges3106 8 місяців тому +2

    at first when i listened to techno i didnt really understand it, but i agree with ellen alien. once i learnt to dance to it i fell in love with it. i also think that techno is best at camping festivals, despite the commercial nature i am addicted to feeling the bass in my body. there's less rules about noise restriction unlike most events in the city.

  • @timothykangethe7700
    @timothykangethe7700 9 місяців тому +8

    Absolutely Love House music made from the Outstanding Roland 909 machine back in Detroit and Chicago.
    Evolving into Techno...and currently Deep House.
    Long live this 🎶 genre 🎉
    Good job DW shedding light on Techno 🎇

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому

      Thanks a lot for watching and for your positive feedback. We appreciate you taking the time to comment and are glad you like our content!

  • @germanCrowbar
    @germanCrowbar 9 місяців тому +6

    Why is there no early film footage of techno supposedly originating in Detroit, while there are recordings of Kraftwerk from 1970 playing something very similar to techno in front of an audience? Nice try Deutsche Welle!

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for asking. As we mentioned in the video, US DJs were flown in from Detroit to play at Berlin clubs such as Tresor. There is actual footage of that at min 8:30. The fact that we could only use very limited archival material from Detroit also has to do with copyright. Thanks for understanding.

  • @TitanMind1
    @TitanMind1 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for this ❤

  • @Sharpsyy
    @Sharpsyy 9 місяців тому +10

    The techno scene has an pretty interesting following and atmosphere here in South Africa. Devoted ravers, well thought out environments and incredible music. Really dope to learn about the history in greater detail!

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching and for sharing your experiences in South Africa. Sending you all the best

    • @bornajurasic
      @bornajurasic 8 місяців тому

      I will be moving to South Africa soon. Any suggestions on where to experience the scene? Which cities? What media streams to follow? Would really appreciate the info!

  • @simonseis744
    @simonseis744 9 місяців тому +3

    I'm confused, Kraftwerk have a famous video from 1970 of them playing early techno but apparently techno begun in the early 1980s in Detroit? I'm getting a Netflix Cleopatra vibe from this video.

    • @jakobmanga7812
      @jakobmanga7812 9 місяців тому +2

      You don't understand, do you? Electronic music was already a thing in Europe. But DJs from Detroit mixed this electric elements from Europe with their House and Funk elements

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  7 місяців тому

      Thank you for watching. We've actually already made a video about Kraftwerk and their influence on the music scene. You can watch it here: ua-cam.com/video/1651r_oqy48/v-deo.html

    • @christopherdieudonne
      @christopherdieudonne 6 місяців тому

      @simsonseis. Oh yeah, it's totally giving Netflix's Cleopatra vibe. Completely agree. People just love rewriting history these days.

  • @gary.rothenbucher
    @gary.rothenbucher 6 місяців тому +3

    I think DW don’t know, German techno was first in Frankfurt and not Berlin. Talla 2XLC and Sven Väth with their clubs Technoclub and Omen were largely responsible for the emergence of techno and trance in Germany. The rest is history.

    • @europeanpatriot21
      @europeanpatriot21 5 місяців тому +1

      The first techno DJ is Juan Atkins. The music artists you mentioned came much later.

    • @gary.rothenbucher
      @gary.rothenbucher 5 місяців тому

      @@europeanpatriot21 Juan Atkins is co-founder of Detroit Techno and not German Techno. I’ve been never a fan of Detroit Techno. It was too funky for me. German Techno emerged from ‘Sound of Frankfurt’ was much harder and rawer.

  • @harisdiz.5817
    @harisdiz.5817 9 місяців тому +39

    Homage to KRAFTWERK.

    • @diemes5463
      @diemes5463 9 місяців тому +2

      electronic music existed well before Kraftwerk

    • @503tree
      @503tree 9 місяців тому +3

      Dancing to Kraftwerk kinda hard tbh. Thank goodness kids made it better

    • @BlamBar-qj8yh
      @BlamBar-qj8yh 9 місяців тому +2

      lmfao Kraftwerk?
      Homage to JUAN ATKINS!

    • @Hardbody94
      @Hardbody94 9 місяців тому

      Kraftwerk aint shit 😂

    • @alexsicko
      @alexsicko 9 місяців тому +1

      @@BlamBar-qj8yh yeah, those kraftwerk kids weren't even born when atkins dropped the techno beat.... XD LMFAO.

  • @jesusbabi69
    @jesusbabi69 9 місяців тому +3

    I enjoyed this documentary!! I love techno music

  • @Faultline303
    @Faultline303 9 місяців тому +5

    Does anybody know the track at 9:45?

  • @gautamkhanna5842
    @gautamkhanna5842 9 місяців тому +3

    The pioneer of Acid House is Charanjit Singh - Bombay , India in 1982

  • @adrianhadvig5549
    @adrianhadvig5549 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for document! Amazing!! ❤

  • @davidschlessinger9945
    @davidschlessinger9945 4 місяці тому +1

    I always had an interest in electronic music from the earliest days making mixed tapes.

  • @erasedmemories2457
    @erasedmemories2457 9 місяців тому +6

    Nice to see the Music videos Ive created For Ellen Allien getting featured here :-)

    • @aw7x
      @aw7x 9 місяців тому +1

      very nice visuals mate, keep them up!!

  • @BillyMustang101
    @BillyMustang101 9 місяців тому +13

    Frankfurt might have something to say about Berlin being the birthplace!

    • @Flashback_Jack
      @Flashback_Jack 9 місяців тому +2

      Birthplace of what?

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому +1

      In this video from our "Arts Unveiled" series, we focused on Detroit and Berlin. However, it's true that Techno is also home to other cities like Chicago or Frankfurt. Thank you for watching.

    • @nourdinh.1450
      @nourdinh.1450 8 місяців тому

      @@DWHistoryandCulture Yes its True Im from Frankfurt from the Beginning of that Movement,Talla open the Techno Club Sundays @ the Club "No Name" in 1984 than later went to Dorian Gray i Think Fridays Downstairs the Third Floor 😉

  • @cardiffbreadshort
    @cardiffbreadshort 7 місяців тому +2

    Following Magic Juan Atkins' definition: Kraftwerk = techno

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching. Have you watched the video we created about Kraftwerk yet? You can finde it here: ua-cam.com/video/1651r_oqy48/v-deo.html

  • @heikojoerges8330
    @heikojoerges8330 7 місяців тому

    well, Frankfurt had an important role, too. I remember going to one of the early raves at Walzmühle/Ludwigshafen in the very early 90s. It was simply: spacy and I never saw something like this before. Foam all over the floor, staff with headphones, free fruit all over the place, fancy clothes (I used to have fluorescent sun glasses), the atmosphere of an old factory building... simply crazy... and everyone just came to have fun, unlike traditional disco locations where troublemakers where common. The Techno scene was very relaxing and relaxed and peaceful

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  7 місяців тому

      Thank you very much for sharing your personal experience with us. Sending you all the best

  • @alcyonemusic
    @alcyonemusic 9 місяців тому +6

    Cybotron, Kevin Saunderson, Derrick May, Kraftwerk of course.. let's not forget Moroder, Yellow Magic Orchestra..... and Japanese technological innovation.. Technics, Roland etc that made the gear that was repurposed by creative minds to get these new sounds and music forms "the street finds its own uses for things"

    • @grambo4436
      @grambo4436 9 місяців тому

      All yeses!!

    • @artisans8521
      @artisans8521 7 місяців тому

      Agreed.....when the TR-909 and TB-303 came out in the early nineties (amidst a which of "affordable" polyphonic synth), they were commercial failures to be dug up in the late eighties out of thrift stores and combined with the SL1202 that hiphop had already discovered. But I don't see Techno and/or House (wasn't that term coined in Chicago, at the Warehouse club) as strictly Berlinaise. For instance, a lot of raves were causing "problems" in the UK as well as in my country (just to te left of you) for instance in the form of Miss Djax (DJ and label owner) from 040 and DJ Isis from 020 (though not a native) (and Gabber, but lets not go into that, so not my thing, from 010). But electronic dance music is strong in Germany without a shadow of a doubt. But we AFAIK were the first country to commercialize DJ music into a stadium extravaganza (unfortunately). with ID&T being one of the driving forces behind it.

  • @maliodistoka
    @maliodistoka 9 місяців тому +9

    DW you need to make part 2 or 3 asap of this because you missed a lot of other pioneers

  • @Fiveandime
    @Fiveandime 9 місяців тому

    great piece thanks for telling it like it is.

  • @Janique2100
    @Janique2100 9 місяців тому +2

    Die beste Zeit 1990 - 1994 in Berlin, aber ich bin auch oft in Detroit - I LOVE DETROIT 😍

  • @ratias0
    @ratias0 9 місяців тому +8

    Even though I don't like techno, I think it was a very interesting documentary. Thank you

  • @thefixer742
    @thefixer742 7 місяців тому +3

    Great video! 🎵 This comprehensive overview of the birth and evolution of techno and electro music from Detroit to Berlin and back is incredibly informative. The influence of pioneers like Cybotron and Model 500 from Detroit, along with the innovative work of Kraftwerk, added a unique dimension to electronic music.
    Cybotron's album "Techno City," released in 1984, is often credited with coining the term "techno," and it was a pivotal moment in the genre's history.
    Kraftwerk deserves recognition for their groundbreaking electronic music contributions. Their album "Computer World" from 1981, featuring tracks like "Numbers," "Computer World 2," and "It's More Fun to Compute," significantly contributed to the development of techno and electro music. "Trans-Europe Express" from 1977 also played a pivotal role and was later sampled by Afrika Bambaataa. Additionally, Kraftwerk's influence extended to A Number of Names, who sampled their music in the track "Sharevari" in 1981. These connections highlight Kraftwerk's enduring impact on the electronic music landscape.
    Ryuichi Sakamoto's "Riot in Lagos" from 1980 deserves special mention for its innovative fusion of electronic and traditional Japanese elements, showcasing how global influences played a role in shaping electronic music.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  7 місяців тому

      Thanks a lot for watching and for your positive feedback. We appreciate you taking the time to comment and are glad you like our content!

  • @zolawilliams1
    @zolawilliams1 9 місяців тому +1

    Wait I needed like 90 more minutes of this.

  • @farmertomas
    @farmertomas 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks so much. Always loved Techno. Great to see the photo of Richie Hawtin from 1990. He still is absolutely incredible to me.

    • @fgjr96way
      @fgjr96way Місяць тому

      DJ Ritchie Rich when I first heard him

  • @gg-ti2ne
    @gg-ti2ne 9 місяців тому +18

    If you want to tell the story of Technos birth there is one city you can't get past: Frankfurt!

    • @stoltmain123
      @stoltmain123 9 місяців тому +1

      Rotterdam

    • @koreyp2845
      @koreyp2845 9 місяців тому +1

      Lies😂 it was Detroit. House came out BEFORE techno in Chicago

    • @ntro9347
      @ntro9347 9 місяців тому

      @@stoltmain123 Rotterdam? Rotterdam is Gabber and if you are referring to the Clone scene that would be a spin off from Bunker in The Hague.

    • @stoltmain123
      @stoltmain123 9 місяців тому

      @@ntro9347 ja joh dat zal gerust wel haha ik doe al mee vanaf eind jaren tachtig de raves ik heb alles al gezien en gehoord ik vind hem een van de pioneirs van de harde techno samen met kai tracid. ua-cam.com/video/eRrw0vXwvoE/v-deo.html

    • @zochbuppet448
      @zochbuppet448 6 місяців тому

      @@koreyp2845 House and Techno are two different genres of music.
      House was also extremely heavily influenced by the electronic music from Germany and UK in the 80's
      House music was just the continuation of Electro music from the 1982 -1984 which was mostly popular/ known in the the U.S and Canada

  • @ceel3111
    @ceel3111 9 місяців тому +5

    All I can say is that....I ❤Techno!!

  • @riquelmeone
    @riquelmeone 9 місяців тому

    A good read into some of the history is Laurent Garnier's Electrochoc.
    Great insights and backgrounds on people, clubs, cities and connections you would not have dreamed of.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому

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  • @chesh1710
    @chesh1710 9 місяців тому +2

    i discovered rominimal a few years back and i am absolutely hooked. Some amazing music coming out of romania

    • @LedgerLiner
      @LedgerLiner 9 місяців тому +3

      Bro please share name of some tracks so i can go discover. Im super intrigued

    • @chesh1710
      @chesh1710 9 місяців тому

      @@LedgerLiner these 2 sets are good place to start
      ua-cam.com/video/kFR9vUYNvt0/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/GXU7rebLpso/v-deo.html
      Enjoy

    • @LedgerLiner
      @LedgerLiner 9 місяців тому +1

      @@ANGE__LICA big up !

    • @hmzsmll3297
      @hmzsmll3297 9 місяців тому

      @@LedgerLiner Bryz - Senin 2
      Electricano - Baba Yaga
      Cojoc & Moldovan - Pleasure
      Nelly Furtado - Give it to me (Lukea edit)
      Traumer - Classroom
      Marcu Rares - Minute

  • @joekenorer
    @joekenorer 9 місяців тому +4

    I started techno in 1963.

  • @streglof
    @streglof 9 місяців тому +5

    Tracklist?

  • @ap114
    @ap114 2 місяці тому +1

    In high school in the 1990s, as a Black immigrant boy to the USA who started to fall into Big Beat, drum and bass, and ambient electronic music, I had a hard time explaining to other Black kids why I was interested in this wierd "white" music. I read about guys like Juan Atkins and the other Detroit techno folks, but it wasn't until I revisted the topic in the early 2000s with high-speed Internet access to realize that they were Black men and that house was pioneered by Black men. That was the day when it solidified in my heart that every core genre of music that I cared about was started by people who looked like me and were of the African diaspora. Case closed. I'm a EDM fan. Proud of it. I'm glad to see that some of the pioneers are getting their due on a mass scale.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for sharing your musical journey with us and our community!

  • @rauldiaz7309
    @rauldiaz7309 6 місяців тому

    Very entertaining and informative video. Interesting also reading the commenters on different experiences, angles, and opinions on how many first identified techno and/or its origins. From the video and discussions I have learned alot.
    As a junior high school student in the mid 80s I thought records by Transmat and Metroplex were straight up European products (hearing the tracks, but not seeing the labels). Into my high school and college years I came to discover that many of these compositions were from Detroit. These records along with the dark and moody European Imports, The New York Sound, local house, and a touch of bboy/electro/freestyle were the signature sound of Chicago mix radio, streets, and clubs throughout the 80s and much of the 90s. And that's not shading hip-hop/rap in the city which also had its loyalists in those years -dj collectives, MCs, writers.

  • @jsyjay
    @jsyjay 9 місяців тому +6

    The first time I ever heard techno was Jeff Mills DJing in Space Ibiza

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  9 місяців тому

      Thank you very much for sharing your story with us. Sending you all the best

  • @vultur311
    @vultur311 9 місяців тому +4

    Didn't Talla 2XLC from Frankfurt first invented term Techno even before 1990? Or is that just a myth...😅

  • @szywro5673
    @szywro5673 9 місяців тому

    Techno gets me moving from 90's

  • @jujug7828
    @jujug7828 Місяць тому

    Great documentary, thank you ! And yes I move with techno, and do it every day, I even started my own label together with a friend !

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      @DWHistoryandCulture  Місяць тому

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  • @cassaleelee
    @cassaleelee 9 місяців тому +3

    Quote: "They mixed European electro music with African American dance beats ". I think that credits and sums it up nicely.

  • @trancextend
    @trancextend 9 місяців тому +9

    Funny, I been listening to Techno for 25 years and you finally realized that its a great genre. 😂😂😂 Look for me in H Town driving around with Techno records all the way from Berlin, UK, Ibiza, Africa, Japan, and yes! Detroit!!! 🎉 😂 Welcome to an endless addiction of music at 138 bpm and higher.❤

  • @cxplorerv3
    @cxplorerv3 9 місяців тому +2

    08:57 I am a blackman and he is right. Not many black people liked techno. I never was a lyric person when I listen to music anyway. Till this day,I listen to more electronic sounds then other style of music.

  • @097jupiter
    @097jupiter 9 місяців тому +4

    I wrote an entire paper on this subject❤