Jeep Liberty Front Lift Kit & New Suspension, Project Renegade Ep.15
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2017
- In this episode I install the front lift kit along with a bunch of new suspension parts from Detroit Axle! Sorry about the camera issue, I hope you enjoy the video anyway.
Parts installed - Pre assembled "quick struts", strut spacers, upper & lower control arms, inner & outer tie rods, inner tie rod boots, lower ball joints, hub bearings, sway bar end links, sway bar bushings, brake pads & rotors.
14pc Suspension Kit - goo.gl/eB9Ppn
Fast Struts - goo.gl/CeVhsL
Wheel Hub Bearings(NON ABS) - goo.gl/qmZozq
Sway Bar Bushings - goo.gl/596g3T
Project Renegade - 2005 Jeep Liberty Renegade 3.7
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What a nice upgrade and that looks like a solid kit! Can't wait to see it with the new shoes and hitting the trail!
I hope to be out on the trail soon! The Liberty hasn't seen a trail in a long time, thanks for watching!
Do you still suggest Detroit axle???
Lift looks good! Can't wait to see it with the tires!
Thanks! That video will be up Wednesday.
My 2" front spacer lift was a real pain to install. I'm jealous of how easily you installed it.
Video can make things look easier than they really are. This was a pain and took many hours to do, but is completely doable with the right tools, the knowledge and a lot of patience. Thanks for watching!
Rocky X TV how did that Detroit Axle kit work out for you now that’s it’s been a few years? I’m looking to replace my whole front suspension on my ‘05 Liberty. Would you still recommend the Detroit Axle kit?
I have a 2004 jeep liberty and bought the 12 piece suspension kit, and I bought new shocks that were also a recommended from your Amazon store link, with 3 in spacers I already had, and my upper control arm touches my shock spring, and my inner boot ripped, on the CV axle,
Love the build videos. I was curious about the strut spacers, don't see those listed in the suspension parts list. Thanks.
Can't wait to see those tires on it. I gotta catch back up to you on subs. Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks for watching! My subs went up really quick for a while.... then they slowed down.... crap!
I need to figure out what is squeeking and creaking when I turn my steering. It's not the pump. Sounds like rubber parts maybe.
Did you ever figure out what caused suspension issues? I want to lift mine 2.5 inches. I'm doing a spacer lift and I'm only changing the upper a arms and struts. Will it be an issue?
thanks! I'll look I to them following this whole build while I'm building a 2006 liberty renegade took your idea for the rear shocks now just wondering what bushinga you swapped out to make it fit?
I just pressed the steel sleeve out of the OE shocks and pressed it into the bushings of the FOX shocks.
Do you know if KK rough country 2.5" spacer lift fits kj?
Great videos, thank you for posting! I am thinking of buying detroit axle's wheel hubs (front driver and passenger) for my jeep liberty. Have you experience any issues with your detroit axle hubs?
No issues to speak of as of yet. Thanks for watching!
Hey brotha, what lift kit did you use? your amazon shopping list says the daystar 2.5, but it doesn't resemble what you installed in the video. Im about to tear into my renegade, any pointers would be much appreciated.
So after 3 yrs, besides the spacers messing up your suspension (I read the comments), have you had any trouble with the Detroit axel suspension parts ?? My KJ is like yours mostly street and very little mud and sand,I am considering in putting on pretty much the same parts and leveling kit as yours .. i don’t mind swapping out balls joint or tie rods it’s the putting the strut back in that blows ass how many miles before you notice the strut/spring sagging ?? Great build btw I like those flat grill KJs
Love the work i have done most of the same but have not replaced the sway bar links and sway bar bushings yet. as this part didnt get captured have you seen a different video for this portion of the install any place else. your other videos helped immensely with my replacement of the rest of the suspension which i have been doing in chunks. I do agree the front is a major exercise in patience. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for checking out the videos! Here's a video for the sway bar end links - ua-cam.com/video/zJ05LYxSh7U/v-deo.html These guys have a ton of Liberty repair videos, I have all of them in a playlist on my channel - ua-cam.com/play/PLNJCguxEmoMXExQ3R7qCpDganiXBpfmoe.html
it would be nice to see a phot of the CV shaft angles before and after the lift
They don't look to happy, but I don't have any noise or vibration yet. Thanks for watching!
Did you go with extended upper control arms? I think it needs them.
What lift did you go with? I have a 05 liberty i plan on lifting
Did the upper control arms come with pre-packed grease boots?
Hey I have the same truck where did you get the spindle
is it gonna fit Liberty CRD 2.8
Where did you found fork-klevis?
Hi, where did you get the red strut forks? I am working on my suspension and one of the forks broke! The cheapest replacement I've found is $230. I was wondering if you were able to find some cheaper ones. Thanks!
Seems a little steep for just the forks, but then again I've been wrong more than once LOL!
where did you get the Clevis Forks?
I bought those same strut spacers but before i got a chance to install them the engine blew in it but luckily I have another liberty as a parts jeep so I am going to do a compression test to see what bank is bad then i will pull one of the heads off of the parts jeep and see if that solves the problem. And are those the interco irok nd's?
It's always great to have a parts jeep if you can. I'll let you know if you're right about the tires when of if anyone else gives it a go. Thanks for watching!
thank you brother
Thank you for watching!
How do you adjust the lower control arm? Having trouble adjusting mine please help
The bolts holding the lower control arm on are cam style bolts, just turn them and it moves the control arm in and out. They look like regular bolts, but with an offset washer on them. I hope that helps, thanks for watching!
how do you like the detroit axle products? the kj forums dont praise it so much. how about skp suspension products from parts geek site? any opinion?
Did you use extended front shocks? Did you use extended read shocks?
so I also have that problem with camera death during recording. best thing to do is change camera position every 30 minutes or so. look into a slider mount for your camera and see if there is a time laps setting and a motorized slider is a great investment. but good video. keep it up.
Thanks for the info, and thanks for watching!
Hey, fellow central Ohioan! I'm about to replace the suspension on my '05 Liberty CRD with OME shocks/springs and all new components from MOOG. Should I order new strut mounts and rubber spring seats or just re-use them? Do they wear out? And, if you want to try again getting a good video of the job, I'll let you use my Jeep for free! ;)
The spring isolators are usually reusable, but if you can get a good deal on them they would be worth replacing. I would also check with OME if the components are compatible with the CRD as some manufactures state that their parts will not work with the diesel. As for making another video, sorry I'll have to pass, the install can be pretty frustrating, but it can be done with a LOT of patience. Thanks for the offer though!
What is the substance that you applied to the yoke before you installed the hub?
This was so long ago I don't really remember what products I used, sorry. Thanks for watching though!
what was he nut and bolt size of the lower front control arm
18mm bolt head and 25mm nut, thanks for watching!
How are the detroit axle shocks holding up now? I plan to get them but common sense is telling me to spend 300$ extra to get blisteins
Honestly, if you have the cash, go with the Bilsteins. I've used DA stuff for a while and it holds up and performs pretty good, until you do any other modifications like a lift. A lift will destroy the DA stuff, that's what happened to mine, I can't even drive my Liberty anymore. Thanks for watching!
I'm loving project renagade! It's really helping me with my '05 Liberty. Any chance you could share the parts list from Detroit axle? I can't seem to find all of the parts on their website.
Sure thing! Just give me a few minutes and I'll post some links for you!
Rocky X TV Awesome! thank you! does this also include the parts needed for the lift? Or is this for factory height?
This is just stock replacement parts, no lift.
So what did you use for the lift? The front suspension on my 05 is very worn out and I'm having a hard time finding the front lift parts.
The lift was just an ebay spacer/over the strut kit, I can't seem to find the link but I'll keep looking.
where did you get the clevis forks?JBA?
Those are actually just stock, just painted red. Don't know why, but I chose red. Thanks for watching, and if you haven't already, subscribe to keep up on all the new videos! Thanks again.
Whats the name of the piece you start installing at 1:35 ?
People usually call it the strut fork or strut clevis. Thanks for watching!
I have a dragged out question for you, I have the same 05 liberty renegade and want to lift it, I found a rough country lift which was 3" included extended shocks springs and spacers. The description states not for renegade models when I contacted them to ask why they said it binds the cv axle because the renegade is already lifted...I asked of i could just use 2.5" spacers to lift it they said no. I was wondering if you had any issues with your cv axle..I know they suggest keeping it under 3" to avoid binding, do you kow how much is it lifted from jeep? And how they lifted it, or would I be safe with the 2" steel strut spacers and rear spring spacers like you used on yours?
First, I do NOT recommend the spacer lift like I used in this video. The lift has sagged and destroyed almost all of the new suspension I installed. This Jeep doesn't even get driven anymore because the suspension is so screwed up. I've also been looking at the RC lift to possibly fix my issues, but saw the same "not for Renegade & CRD" warning as you. The only thing that I have found different on the Renegade suspension from Jeep is that the struts are a little stiffer and this gave them .5 - .75 of lift over the Sport Liberty. This was just in the front as it only leveled the Renegade out, if you notice the Sport and Limited sit a little high in the rear, they all have the same springs back there. When I replaced the struts on mine I found out that you can't even buy the "Renegade" struts as replacements. They consolidated the part down to a single part that will work for all the Liberty models, which is the Sport struts. So in theory, if you replace your struts, you can use the RC lift as you have changed the one suspension part that made it a Renegade. Also a side note, if you do go with the RC lift (or any lift really) be prepared for a battle, the lift can be installed, but it will fight you every step of the way. Even with Sport style struts, everything is still extremely stiff and doesn't want to go back together. Give it time and a lot of patience and it will go together.
@@RockyXTV shit man thank you so much for clearing that up I spent days scanning the internet and writing other lift kit companies trying to figure out why my suspension was any different being a renegade. Now ill just have to decide if I want to go through the hassle of a lift, I was planning on new struts anyways and like you said there didn't seem to be a renegade specific strut. I appreciate your reply man and it's a shame your not driving it anymore your project came out wicked. Thanks again.
I hope to get her back on the road this spring, she might be back at stock height and with stock wheels and tires though. If I lift it again when I fix everything I'm just gonna go all out with a really good complete kit, but the kits I'm looking at are anywhere from $1400 up to $3500. Don't think I'm ready to dump that much in it yet, I like her, but I'm not sure if I like her that much...
@@RockyXTV lol I wouldn't want to put that much into mine she's rusting out good and I'm not sure how much life is left in her...would you say those polyurethane lifts from day star are just as bad for your suspension as the steel spacers?
The DayStar kit goes inside the strut rather than on top like my kit. I've heard both good and bad things about this kit ( honestly more bad than good ) The biggest drawback is that it has to go inside your strut, this means having to take the strut apart. Usually not a big deal on most vehicles, just get a cheapo set of Harbor Freight spring compressors and go for it. This is not the case with the Liberty, the "standard" spring compressors won't work on their struts as they are more "coil-overs" than struts, so you can't get the compressors in between the coils of the spring. This usually means having a shop with a specialized press put the plates in for you and that adds to the cost of the lift. I've also heard quite a few complaints of premature strut failure because of the added compression. At the end of the day though, I can't say 100% one way or the other as I've never personally had this lift. I just seems that the Liberty just never wanted to be lifted unless you throw a ton of money at it and get a JBA kit.
I love the videos man! where did you get those red Clevis/strut forks
I've had a ton of people as me that same question. Those are very special, hard to find, extremely valuable, spray painted and sanded stock OEM clevises... Sorry, I had to do it, thanks for watching!
what brand strut did you go with ?
Detroit Axle, they are their "quick struts" Thanks for watching!
Now you got me a little bit worried. I'm Monday I ordered my lift kit for my 02 liberty and by the looks of things it's the same lift as yours.. now as to regards of the front of your Jeep sagging. I don't quite understand why the front is sagging so much. I was wondering is your front springs factory or are they from Detroit Axle?
Front springs/struts, upper & lower control arms, control arm bushings, ball joints, sway bar end links, sway bar bushings, inner & outer tie rods & ends, hubs, basically every suspension component was new and installed at the same time as the lift. The "over the strut" type lift seems to put the entire front suspension in a bind causing parts to prematurely fail. I've spoke with quite a few people that have ended up with the same problems with this type of lift. I got a feeling that something was up with this lift (in the front, the rear is fine) when I finished installing it and went to get an alignment. The guys at the shop said "we got it as close as we could, everything seems to be a little tight" We figured it was due to everything being new. It went out of alignment after about 1K miles, took it back in and they corrected it and said everything was tight, so they couldn't say why the alignment went out that fast. After the 3rd alignment in about 5-6K miles they said it was most likely the lift. Also after installing this kit, I let the Jeep down off the jacks so I could tighten everything on the ground so it was under its own weight as to not bind anything. I noticed that the front was way up in the air, it measured out to nearly 6 inches of lift over stock! I had to drive it for a few miles and hit some bumps before it settled down to where it should be. For the first 6 months it would do this if I had to jack the front end up for anything, I would let it back down and the front was back up in the air, very strange...
@@RockyXTV I really appreciate you taking the time to let me know what you have done. I have pretty much the same lift as you got I believe. I know you are rushed to get done so I couldn't see everything on your videos. That's why I was so curious to why it was binding up. The lift from what I see should it be binding up at all. Now as far as the suspension components that is a possibility. I think that Detroit Axle and from the videos that I've seen people complaining about Detroit Axle makes up our parts. I believe that that's what's wrong with your front end and it should be corrected by putting the original struts back on along with the lift kit that you have on. I'm going to be doing the same thing in the weeks to come and I will make some videos on it. Hopefully this will help you and other people out. or it will prove to be a big failure on my part and I'll be in the same boat as you....
Most of the binding comes from moving the strut downwards with the spacer. This seems to put an excessive downward and slightly outward force on the upper & lower control arms. In order to get this spacer and strut back in place you have to compress the suspension quite a bit, this causes the strut to be partially compressed when the vehicle is merely at ride height and no load applied. I can't say for sure if it was the Detroit Axle parts or the lift, but I can say the lift did have a little to do with it. I just subbed to your channel, sorry to hear something went bad, I hope all is well now. I look forward to seeing your videos!
@@RockyXTV thank you for subbing to my channel.I'm going to try to put the lift in and keep all the original factory parts on at first to see what happens but I definitely want to replace everything the suspension like you did with Moog. I'll make sure I record everything and post it.
How are the spring spacers holding up? Been looking at them but havent heard the best reviews
I've got about 3,500 miles on the spacers and haven't had an issue yet... hope it stays that way. Thanks for watching and don't forget to subscribe to keep up on all the new videos and products! Thanks again!
Rocky X TV im planning on wheeling mine. Not to crazy but medium, kinda challenging trails. You go on trails alot with them or would you say its worth to just keep on road with it?
I would say stay mild with it, mostly road use, but could go offroad. For some good wheeling KJ suspension look into Jeepin' by Al.
If I'm installing a lift kit and getting bigger tires should I install a tuner? I can't find any for jeep liberty. Can I get any help?
It's not necessary to get a tune. I'm not sure where you could find a tuner, but there are a few companies out there that reprogram your stock ECM. Check out some of the Jeep KJ forums and you'll get more answers. Thanks for watching!
Dang I wanted to see how to replace the inner tie rod... mine failed. Oh well
Sorry about that. I can tell you that on the KJ's it is kind of a pain, you need to use a different specialty tool that normal inner tie rods use. Here is the part number for the tool at AutoZone 25296, it's called OEM Inner Tie Rod Tool and it was $20 to buy. When installing the new ones I had to use the traditional(tube style) inner tie rod tool because the new ones were like normal tie rods. I hope this at least gives you some idea. Thanks for watching!
I have my lift kit for 5 years from daystar. Your ball joints will suffer. I recommend to change them every year.
The suspension on this project is completely shot on the front now. I'm either going back to stock or forking out the 1400$ for a real lift kit. Thanks for watching!
i just bought a daystar for my 04 liberty limited what ball joints go bad both?
Like what you are doing, But you could slow down on some parts to explain what you are doing for that certain part. Like when you were putting the spacer on the front coil you could show it up close and explain what you had to do.
Just some advice. I absolutely love your videos though man keep up the great work.
Yeah, I have a ways to go on my video production and I do get ahead of myself sometimes. I will work on all of that in the future. Thanks for watching!
Anyone call tell me what the name of the red part that conmect with the struct/shock. Thanks
It on 1:34
@@luisquichimbo1547 Front strut clevis. Jeep dealer told me the discontinued the part last year. I haven't been able to find any after market and mine are rusted bad.
Maybe a Jeep commander’s will fit
really liking the series but explanation of each step is lacking now. great progress
Sorry about that. This part of the build was hectic with the shear size of the install and pressure from companies to get content out. I'm not saying anything bad about any companies that have supported Rocky X TV, they just want things done on their time, I hope you understand. Thanks for watching!
Detroit Axle has terrible reviews, how are the parts holding up?
I can't honestly give their parts a fair review because of the lift kit I installed. The lift destroyed most of the front suspension, so the Detroit Axle stuff didn't get a fair chance. Their parts do have a 10 year warranty though, so I imagine they can't be that bad.
Rocky X TV I ended up going with Moog just for the peace of mind. But I might give DA a try in the future.
I went with MOOG for sway bar bushings and rear coils. Can't go wrong with MOOG!
WARNING: Hello I bought a Detroit Axle kit for my Silverado and the little silver nuts with the nylon are to soft of a metal to use safely on a vehicle. I just used a little 8 inch hand wrench and the nut pulled the threads right out .So I hope nobody uses these nuts and bought better nuts. Somebody could get killed driving down the road with these faulty low grade nuts.
Aaaaaaaaaannndd learnt nothing
detroit axle is garbage! they have the same garbage parts as the cheaper china child labor options. even if you order a 100 part set, they will only warranty out 2 individual pieces out of the order. and they make you pay shipping! so expensive its almost what they charge to start with!