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Heard an ex league pro say today even, some ppl just play video games by hitting buttons and dont think much beyond that. Part of learning is willing to learn as well, and I think a lot of ppl watching just cant process much beyond the mechanical skill presented. Comp games esp require a lot of learning & imo watching better players and trying to see how they think, and the habits they form is when a lot of ppl will mistake things for cheating when misunderstood & misapplied. Good vids.
I simply meant he is conservative. I was going to do a whole animation with an American flag but scrapped it to keep politics out of it. I actually have rarely heard him speak. This is decent criticism. Ty
I have actually not played Tarkov in months xD I am also waiting for the wipe! I am glad you like my cat "animations" I think they give my channel character xD
@@Diss3mbled playing tarkov is the only game that ever made me question if i was ever good at any game in life lmao. My 2 friends i play with were almost PRO level Call of duty players, routinely clear lobbies- and they get humbled just the same in tarkov. this is what makes the game so good IMO, hard game is HARD
Anyone send this video to suddenly toast? Edit: also love your attitude towards cheating and your content - wish we had millions of you in the community!
please dont take this poorly its genuine criticism and i tried to not seem as rude as possible so what exactly is your point? This was your argument, 1. ive talked to alot of cheaters, real money trading sites require ID, Somehow is able to confirm the age of cheaters and conveniently theyre all kids, so basically the people selling 50 LedX's on the store is not hacking or RWT'ing? I am steel manning your argument here but thats genuinely how i understood your arguement generally youre hopping all over the place with your argument first you bring up "people hack for RWT" then start going on a spiel about the semantics of what a hacker and a cheater is, then you get back on track, then immediately go on another spiel about how you hate parroting. which was the point for both of those topics and it in no way relates to real world trading of items. this doesnt feel like a cohesive video more like you wrote down everything that has been annoying you that relates to tarkov and just vomiting that into a video.
@@pielabanana The second half of the video was certainly a mess. It is hard to take a step back and see how a third party would understand your video. I just rewatched it and I cant believe how unorganized it was. In my head my rebuttals seemed straight forward. I have always had a problem with overexplaining every little thing. In the future I need to simplify EVERYTHING, it was way too convoluted.
Imagining cheating on tarkov just to see some rouble counter go up and your stash fill with gear THAT YOU DID NOTHING TO EARN. You let software do it for you that shit is sad asf
The people that believe all or even a large amount of well known Tarkov streamers cheat fall into 3 categories. People who don't even play the game and do not understand it, people who are bad/new and have very little understanding, and trolls. Also I assume most of them only watch clips or videos not full streams.
Yes and... Those of us that play a slower game probably fall prey to cheating more often. Those of us that play in Oceania also feel the level of cheating pretty keenly because of the proximity to certain countries. Streamers are just people, as a percentage of the general Tarkov population, there is no reason to believe they cheat at a lower percentage.
You forgot 2. 4th group would be people who cheat and know what it looks like. 5th people who are able to look at something objectivley and say nah i smell bullshit.
I don't think Landmark does it anymore but he was definitely using something before he became buff and was just an awkward dude, he just doesn't need to try so hard anymore he already established his brand in the game and social spaces The custom clip from him always comes to mind at the bus stop near dorms where he fights a guy and then just flicks to a completely different player on the right suspiciously and starts to spray killing him not even knowing that someone was in there beforehand
I did not think about it like that. Honestly I was just ranting, but I suppose he certainly could have used cheating software before he had a viewership... Thank you for the insightful comment!
I respectfully disagree regarding the prevalence of RMT'ers, yes In NA for the vast majority it is not viable to profit off of RMT however there are a LOT of Chinese, former Soviet, and other economically challenged people from other countries that are in a spot where it COULD be viable to earn money this way, similar to the "runescape venezuelan mafia" if you are familiar with them. I've heard some Cheat Developers say that NA RMT'ers are still customers, and I'm inclined to believe that. I think your logic of "I am in NA so these other countries don't apply to me" is very ridiculous due to this, I am Norwegian, I exclusively play NA due to how less ratty people are, my Russian friend does aswell, we know that everyone in the world CAN connect to NA if they want, be it using Mudfish VPN methods or just being right under the ping limit. (we are also aware that NA West has the most Chinese cheaters presumably due to their closer geography, and that Chinese cheaters are significantly more blatant) I know you are saying this partly because you don't want to be seen as prejudiced or whatever because it can be a touchy subject, but I would argue it is just as prejudiced if not more to ignore and not acknowledge such facts just because of their identities being what it is.
I appreciate your point of view. I am sorry this video was all over the place. It is said 90% of communication is non-verbal, and I am trying to stay anonymous. I am still learning.
Dude, if someone thinks Lvndmark is cheating, look at his stream for one hour and you’ll realize how wrong you are, He dies A LOT! If you think theyre cheating you are just DOG WATER bad genetics or just don’t play enough. PERIOD. PD. Good video dude interesting strategy haha.
Haha thanks man! I don't watch him very often, but when I do he usually loses coincidentally. Thank your for staying subscribed! I hope I continue to earn your subscription!
@@Diss3mbled are you suggesting he knows who you are and adapted his playstyle because you where in his chat? Yes, coincidentally. Also good job on the clickbait thumbnail best of luck earning new subs :)
Landmark uses roids, i wouldnt be surprised if he cheated at tarkov. this doesnt mean he isnt excellent at the game, but being actually good at something plus cheating can give you an edge. Somebody in your squad can be cheating and feeding you intel
He uses steroids, obviously. Society largely accepts famous people using performance enhancement drugs. Gaming culture certainly does not accept people using cheating software.
@@Diss3mbled that is true, but the problem with steroids is people abuse them for an advantage over others without being open about them. Its so rampant in the fitness industry (especially youtube) a majority of these guys create a false reality that if you just at and train a certain way, you'll look like them. This is not to say you cant achieve excellent results with training hard and a perfect diet- but nothing compared to enhancement. This is why i say if hes willing to use roids as an advantage, it is a strike for me that indicates he may use something else for his advantage in a game.
@@FutureLaugh that is a great point about someone that would be willing to take steroids. it means you care about how people view you. That mindset would easily drive someone to cheat at a video game being afraid to be thought of as bad at the game. also lvndmark cheats 100% it's so obvious to me at least.... there are clips of him looking to a different monitor and reacting almost out of fear of dying in the game to snap directly onto someone aiming at him..... to say he doesn't cheat just means you are a worthless sack a shit.
I definitely agree with all these opinions. I've got 5k plus hours on tarkov. But I will say that it isn't impossible to profit off of rmt via cheats. I had a friend who cheated to make money, and made over 4k while going through 49 eod accounts which he then used to purchase a new high quality pc to play tarkov on legitimately.
I personally made roughly 7-800 selling bitcoins, red rebels, thicc cases, money cases, sicc cases from no lifing the game around the time of quarantine and flippin items on ebay.
I have never doubted that most streamers are using enhancements of one type or another. GOAT's video just confirmed what anyone who has been playing Tarkov for 5 minutes, was already sure of. Extend those percentages to the streamers, who are just players like the rest of us, except they crave attention and you dont have to be Brian Cocks to work it out.
@@Diss3mbledI hope I'm wrong. But I don't see any compelling reason the streaming community would not have a similar level of cheating to the general community. Add the incentives streamers have and it would actually be amazing if a good number of them were not using some sort of enhancement.
After GOATS clip on cheaters in tarkov, there were quite a bit of streamers that were'nt happy with the cheating clip, and that really says something about the streamers...
@@mattiasnystrom5292yes go watch lvandmark reaction. You could see him sweating and saying "this video sucks its just goibg to promote cheating" dude is worried about equal playing field
The best aegument against people who think people like landmark cheat is that cheating software is a handicap. Like glasses, or wheelchairs, it degrades your abilities as you use them more and more because you get to play in an easier environment than if you didn't have cheats. You can see the difference simply in the way people like landmark or sheef move in the game. Most cheaters have horrible situational awareness and movement because they simply dont need those skills. The know where everyone is already because of the radar, and auto hit targets because of the aimbot. This will be the. Ase for 99% of cheaters.
You know what skill and cheats do????? Shroud would be a god if he was cheating. Acting like Tony wouldn't cheat for millions ..fyi Johnny Depp isn't a real pirate he just lies and plays pretends for money.. Assuming all cheaters must be bad..umm no
Im saying acting like people will not play pretend for money is rediculous. Acting like you know someone because you watch their stream or movie. Its annoying people acting like they know these people and are bffs and hang out with them all day every day irl. You know what they want you to know about them. To act like streamers aren't or can not be cheating.. Gamers are just simps these days@@ericmcmanus5179
This is not true. Cheats give you more info. Of course you can learn the spawns. But being able to see "yhea a 4 man at ruaf a 3 man ar the train behjnd new gas and a few solos ok lets do this" auto aim only works if you can aim in the first place and when you find out how to work in tarkovs wonky recoil it just lokks lkke you spray and get the lucky one tap. I used simmlar tools in offline and it didnt make me better..it jhst gave me more info on how to engage
I remained on the fence untill I saw the factory clip. Lvndmark gets full blinded and makes like 6 specific turns to get out of gate 3 and makes like two precise jumps WITH A GUY CHASING HIM SHOOTING AT HIM and gets away in a full blind. Ive yet to see a single person dispell that blatant cheating. Lvndmark is good at the game naturally like this video says. BUT he absolutely does cheat on the regular.
I saw that clip as well. He is apparently a Factory main. I can certainly see him able to run around with his eyes closed. It is explained away by a bit of luck and his opponent being terrible.
@@Diss3mbled I know in your video you said that people wouldnt let their minds be changed but I think conversely people will stretch to any conclusion to make excuses. Claiming he could execute a play with a full blind sure. But saying he could do like 10 things at once in a full blind strains credulity. Im not saying hes not good at the game he is, but he absolutely cheats.
@@HodgePodge218its possible i had someone full blind me and i made it back into factory corner and merked them LOL if you play factory enough its engrained in your head...and tony has been playing factory through 10k hours plus so..
Hey mate, good vid, on Pestily I think he mainly plays on the Au (Australian) server, and yes there is a problem here with cheaters (I play the same servers), the main ones I come across have non-English names or symbols, IDK what language it is but it is not English, I used to work with Pestily though not closely, he would not cheat, it would be totally against the grain of his personality and morals, he also dies a lot just like the rest of us if you watch his streams, here on YT you get the highlights mostly so whomever thinks he is cheating is mistaken it's that simple he just would not do it.
I have seen this clip. He is not cheating. Taking a clip out of context where he just got extremely lucky is not evidence. He has tens of thousands of hours in this game. He can run around factory with his eyes closed.
@@Diss3mbled He is not cheating bro, he is only looking at his health and by looking at it he can perfectly navigate the level even when he's completely blinded in-game. Makes perfect sense.
It’s actually a paradox his job depends on him winning in the game so is he going to cheat?? Of course yess I’m not saying landmark is or isn’t cheating I’m just pointing out that the money and … isn’t a good argument
The copium these days is out of control. People don't want to apply themselves and spend time improving. They just want to go from scrub to chad in a days work and it doesn't happen like that. You gotta put in the work to become great. It's not just given to you.
Some people get greedy when the money hits them...just look at the Rust drama with that moody guy who held official tournaments, was a community mod and still cheated his a55 off. edit: lvndmark isn't one of these frauds for sure.
i love the video homie, you hit it on the nose, this topics been bothering me for a while now. thank you for being the voice! I hope to see you in my streams soon!!!!!
There are for sure some bigger streamers who cheat. But someone like Lvndmark or WillerZ are just God level good. Someone like Viibiin is sus. And if they are cheating, they would still have to be really good. The only thing they could ever use long term might be walls.
1. There where some parts during fresh wipe with landmark that made me really say how did he know? its ok to be skeptical about something, id rather ppl be skeptical then blindly say that someone cheats or doesn't cheat based on the level of skill that they have. 2. there are 100% cheaters that cheat for RMT, cs had a massive problem where ppl would hard cheat in casual then once the acc was lvl 15 and gained trust they would sell the acc so that other cheaters could hop right into comp as soon as they got banned on another acc, there has been cases in tarkov where a group would hire someone with cheats to kill juiced players and they would take their loot, and im sure that there are plenty other games that aren't in the spotlight it really just depends on the game itself. 3. you can get cheats very easy without needing to show an ID simply because paypal exists and other forms of payment but to my second point, once ppl have the software theres another form of revenue that these ppl have and thats selling accounts, rust has a huge issue with this. In terms of getting the cheats themselves there are cheat discords where you can talk with others, and im sure they also promote cheats as well.
As response to your second point I would have you rewatch 8:45 and 9:25 As a response to your third point I will say you simply misunderstood me. I know you do not need an ID to purchase cheats and RMT. I never said that. I actually think we mostly agree. There may have been a simple misunderstanding or language barrier. Regardless I appreciate the thorough and courteous comment.
@@Diss3mbled yea i can see what you are saying, its just at some parts it seems like you say that there isnt rmt then saying its a problem, in one part of the vid you say that there is no incentive to cheat for money then say that its a problem, so that might be where the confusion is, the points are kinda scattered. the ID part how you framed it made it seem as if they couldn't cheat unless they had ID's, i think a little constructive criticism would be to avoid confusion by drilling a point instead of blanket statements like "most are children" because when saying that it makes it seem like in order for them to cheat they need ID's, you arent saying anything wrong but you arent making your point well i guess is what im trying to say.
I also see this is manily a tarkov channel but I have been playing Deadrop for awhile now ( snapshot 2 ) and cheaters in that game are already killing it for me. The game isnt even out yet. SMH what Id do to go back to the Socom days
I don't think every one who cheats does it for RMT. i also understand that the state of gaming not just tarkov is riddled with cheats. i stopped playing tarkov when the major cheat video came out and played several other games from APEX to SOT.... during this time they all had cheaters. and i thought to myself some of those games dont have even a real monetary gain behind it but Tarkov could very easily weather it be carry's or items etc.. and i realized cheating is just plaguing gaming not just the one game i enjoy either way cheaters are in every game and probably not always doing it for RMT. so now I'm back playing a game i enjoy and also feel the need to say either something clicked for me this wipe or this has been one of the easier wipes in tarkov. sure there are suss moments but sometimes its just bad luck not always a cheater.
Sucks to hear you had to deal with cheaters in SOT I love that game more than my own mother, I have thousands of hour in it. I do not think I have ever run into a blatant cheater.
You can't really say statistically speaking some of the prevalent streamers cheat. We've gotten a good idea how many cheaters there are in the general population but you can't just apply that to a non-random population. For example, it would be silly if you said 50% of people are women, therefor 50% of people playng tarkov are women.
I agree with your opinion, thus I am going to parrot it jk of course, but I like this outlook and the attempt to be more objective knowing that most cheaters are kids is even a bit inspiring, it makes me think I can win with my raw skill even if they are using wh or radar tarkov probably has a lot of cheaters who are super mechanically bad, and one can use it too their advantage
In researching for other videos I have seen cheating gameplay. They are truly terrible, even the adults. Regardless of what they say, they are cheating because they are bad at the game. You would probably be surprised to know how many cheaters you have killed. Even the people who are not entirely terrible mechanically can oftentimes lean too much on their software and you can outplay them.
Been suspicions of one and only one streamer in all my time playing Tarkov and its because of their after raid loot pics. I fully understand that people learn maps for high tier loot spawn areas and such and while this streamer has shown to be really good at the game something doesn't sit right with me when it comes to their loot. Its similar to someone I used to play with that I found out was cheating because of the weird looting patterns they had and how they would just leave rare shit behind because "I don't need it" when that item is extremely expensive like a GPU. Not dead set on them being one but sometimes pattern recognition is a bitch.
If u talk about someone who makes money from this u can’t really know . Did he get to where he is by cheating or not Or both . If he is skilled he will eventually cheat to keep up with cheaters
I dont even follow lvndmark on twitch. But I can tell that if you think he is cheating than you live a very average life and probably quit anything difficult in life and havent given 110% to any aspect of your life. Youre the same kind of person buying a 5 minute ab program during spring break rather than just going to the gym for 30mins a day for a couple months. Lost on the internet and Lost in life. All the people on reddit with 200 hours comparing themselves to someone with 20 thousand hours. In what hobby, dialogue, form of education, job, profession does that comparison make sense at all because I cant find one. Its one of the most basic laws of the universe.. if you do something over and over and over and over youll probably be quite good at it. Those same people probably work a 9-5 and they would consider themselves good at their job. lvndmark plays more hours a week than you work so it only makes even more sense that he would be good at his job. I cant believe it even still an arugement... instead of watching his highlight reels of his best moments just watch 45mins of his live stream and watch him get tarkov'd 6 times in a row. And the fact that people have started cheating because they think he is cheating... how much of a loser can you be.
Even if RMT didnt exist the game would still be plagued with cheaters lol, they do it cuz they think its funny, also idk about other games having a worse cheating problem than Tarkov lol. Its pretty high at there all u gotta do is go afk in a bush with meta ammo and gun slick and faceshield helmet and watch the nades come flying in
Other games are plagued with free cheats. If you find a free cheat in Tarkov it is probably a virus. For example CSGO cheaters were oftentimes children just screwing around with free software.
@@Diss3mbled i mean yea csgo has more cheaters but idk lol. I find it hard to believe anyone plays that game in ranked legit expecting not to see a cheater even if ur verified
I wasn't coming at you homie sorry if that came off wrong. I've just watched a lot of your content and you were putting a lot of emphasis on your "T" sounds for some reason in this voice over and I wasn't sure what was sounding so different to me - it was just jarring that is all
@@Diss3mbled on eu and ru servers, rmt or boosting cheaters are more prevalent. Why do you think community overall jokes about chinese hackers? Because they could actually make money, and for your region this money isnt enough to drive someone to cheat for rmt, infact knowing US prices i dont think you can even survive on this. But in russia i know a guy who in 2021 bought a car (cheap one but a car nonetheless) with rmt money. China in some regions could be even poorer than russia so i have no doubt someone could see rmt as a way to make money. Also people from EU tend to play on US servers because they are easier/emptyer in general, but i doubt any chinese cheater could play on US servers since they are already using vpn and such to play on eu. Hope that you changed your opinion on this, and atleast understand that "NA region" could also be affected by things happening outside of it, lol.
to the inexperienced eye a person like landmark might seem like a GOD to them. something that cannot be compared to or competed with, but... this is just the difference between someone with under 1k hours and someone with well over 10k hours of experience. i have a buddy who ive been playing with for over 3 years but i first met him, when another friend of mine invited him to play ranked with us. (r6s is the game it all began) we were platinum rank and the new guy was low gold.. within the first season of playing.. this guy shot up to the highest platinum rank and almost to diamond :D i was in disbelief, but i was slowly catching up! now we both have roughly around 1k hours in tarkov (there is like a 300-500h difference with me having more) and id say we are on par with each other 😂 some people are simply better and some are just more experienced
if legit players RMT why wouldn't cheaters? i know of people who RMT with complete legit in game funds on multiple games paypal or a direct wire or even just a gift cards doesn't really need any ID verification, if indian scammers can do it why cant a smell neck beard? you say a listing on a site but you can find people in game to buy, no site or any other paywall needed RMT is just trading, it doesn't even need to be a currency, you could trade items or even carries. Most people hack or get stolen cards and then buy game money and sell essentially stolen money but i cant see a good reason someone cant make money from trading in a game if all the funds and items were legit, if you make more that $400 you have to report it on your taxes lmao not every or even most cheats are paid for, only the scams. you dont even need to be running the cheat on the computer you are on, or even a computer period. servers and proxies allow for a world of wonder you say they aren't hacking until they permanently break your install if people flyhack around and rage hack no stop for little to know reason, wouldn't the possibility of making money be a bigger reason runescape's economy is more stable than some countries, and people literally grind and farm and RMT as a job
@@Diss3mbledyour whole video is acting like you k ow something people don't You say 1k hours but you and I both know you can just sit in a game You are not an authority on any of this, you are in fact talking out your ass
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Look, we live in reality. I acknowledge if you hold an opposing view to these controversies I am almost certainly not going to change your mind. With that being said I would still love to hear your opinion. Please try and stay courteous with your responses or rebuttals. Again please leave a like, they really help a ton.
Heard an ex league pro say today even, some ppl just play video games by hitting buttons and dont think much beyond that.
Part of learning is willing to learn as well, and I think a lot of ppl watching just cant process much beyond the mechanical skill presented.
Comp games esp require a lot of learning & imo watching better players and trying to see how they think, and the habits they form is when a lot of ppl will mistake things for cheating when misunderstood & misapplied. Good vids.
Saying landmark is sound of mind is like saying that politicians cannot lie.
I simply meant he is conservative. I was going to do a whole animation with an American flag but scrapped it to keep politics out of it. I actually have rarely heard him speak. This is decent criticism. Ty
The little cat never gets old, love it!
I have actually not played Tarkov in months xD I am also waiting for the wipe!
I am glad you like my cat "animations" I think they give my channel character xD
watching Dr Disrespect play tarkov is hilarious, he gets thoroughly owned and acts as if hes never played a game in his life
Try hopping from Tarkov to other games. It really messes with your skill level haha
@@Diss3mbled playing tarkov is the only game that ever made me question if i was ever good at any game in life lmao. My 2 friends i play with were almost PRO level Call of duty players, routinely clear lobbies- and they get humbled just the same in tarkov. this is what makes the game so good IMO, hard game is HARD
Anyone send this video to suddenly toast?
Edit: also love your attitude towards cheating and your content - wish we had millions of you in the community!
I don't know who suddenly toast is.
Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate it 🙏
Landmark played a tournament and still had "radar" he had the internal direction sensor 9000
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c o p i u m...
please dont take this poorly its genuine criticism and i tried to not seem as rude as possible
so what exactly is your point? This was your argument, 1. ive talked to alot of cheaters, real money trading sites require ID, Somehow is able to confirm the age of cheaters and conveniently theyre all kids, so basically the people selling 50 LedX's on the store is not hacking or RWT'ing?
I am steel manning your argument here but thats genuinely how i understood your arguement
generally youre hopping all over the place with your argument first you bring up "people hack for RWT" then start going on a spiel about the semantics of what a hacker and a cheater is, then you get back on track, then immediately go on another spiel about how you hate parroting. which was the point for both of those topics and it in no way relates to real world trading of items.
this doesnt feel like a cohesive video more like you wrote down everything that has been annoying you that relates to tarkov and just vomiting that into a video.
I appreciate your sentiment, but I really just cant understand. I am having trouble reading this.
He is trying to say your argument is all over the place withoit acutaly saying anything.
@@pielabanana The second half of the video was certainly a mess. It is hard to take a step back and see how a third party would understand your video. I just rewatched it and I cant believe how unorganized it was. In my head my rebuttals seemed straight forward. I have always had a problem with overexplaining every little thing.
In the future I need to simplify EVERYTHING, it was way too convoluted.
Imagining cheating on tarkov just to see some rouble counter go up and your stash fill with gear THAT YOU DID NOTHING TO EARN. You let software do it for you that shit is sad asf
I will never understand...
The people that believe all or even a large amount of well known Tarkov streamers cheat fall into 3 categories. People who don't even play the game and do not understand it, people who are bad/new and have very little understanding, and trolls. Also I assume most of them only watch clips or videos not full streams.
I entirely agree actually xD
Yes and... Those of us that play a slower game probably fall prey to cheating more often. Those of us that play in Oceania also feel the level of cheating pretty keenly because of the proximity to certain countries. Streamers are just people, as a percentage of the general Tarkov population, there is no reason to believe they cheat at a lower percentage.
You forgot 2. 4th group would be people who cheat and know what it looks like. 5th people who are able to look at something objectivley and say nah i smell bullshit.
Where did you pull those categories from?
I don't think Landmark does it anymore but he was definitely using something before he became buff and was just an awkward dude, he just doesn't need to try so hard anymore he already established his brand in the game and social spaces
The custom clip from him always comes to mind at the bus stop near dorms where he fights a guy and then just flicks to a completely different player on the right suspiciously and starts to spray killing him not even knowing that someone was in there beforehand
I did not think about it like that. Honestly I was just ranting, but I suppose he certainly could have used cheating software before he had a viewership... Thank you for the insightful comment!
@@Diss3mbledonce a cheater alwats a cheater he just became better at hiding it.
well guess what, idk about streamers at all, i don't watch them i just play the game. Thanks youtube for that algorithm
I respectfully disagree regarding the prevalence of RMT'ers, yes In NA for the vast majority it is not viable to profit off of RMT however there are a LOT of Chinese, former Soviet, and other economically challenged people from other countries that are in a spot where it COULD be viable to earn money this way, similar to the "runescape venezuelan mafia" if you are familiar with them. I've heard some Cheat Developers say that NA RMT'ers are still customers, and I'm inclined to believe that.
I think your logic of "I am in NA so these other countries don't apply to me" is very ridiculous due to this, I am Norwegian, I exclusively play NA due to how less ratty people are, my Russian friend does aswell, we know that everyone in the world CAN connect to NA if they want, be it using Mudfish VPN methods or just being right under the ping limit. (we are also aware that NA West has the most Chinese cheaters presumably due to their closer geography, and that Chinese cheaters are significantly more blatant)
I know you are saying this partly because you don't want to be seen as prejudiced or whatever because it can be a touchy subject, but I would argue it is just as prejudiced if not more to ignore and not acknowledge such facts just because of their identities being what it is.
I appreciate your point of view. I am sorry this video was all over the place. It is said 90% of communication is non-verbal, and I am trying to stay anonymous. I am still learning.
Dude, if someone thinks Lvndmark is cheating, look at his stream for one hour and you’ll realize how wrong you are, He dies A LOT! If you think theyre cheating you are just DOG WATER bad genetics or just don’t play enough. PERIOD.
PD. Good video dude interesting strategy haha.
Facts! He’s honestly just FREAKISHLY good at Tarkov. It’s his job and probably most played game 🤣
Haha thanks man! I don't watch him very often, but when I do he usually loses coincidentally.
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@@Diss3mbled are you suggesting he knows who you are and adapted his playstyle because you where in his chat? Yes, coincidentally. Also good job on the clickbait thumbnail best of luck earning new subs :)
If you’ve ever played a competitive shooter like CS you will realize just how high the skill ceiling can be on games
DMA card debacle has increase this issue. 😀
I mean yeah. Though I dont think there could be that many cheaters doing that. Maybe I am wrong.
@@Diss3mbled we got 1 more at the same streamer tournament that just got banned. i think its 3rd place?
pci/ dma modules are not new
literally can just use most popular mice
Landmark uses roids, i wouldnt be surprised if he cheated at tarkov. this doesnt mean he isnt excellent at the game, but being actually good at something plus cheating can give you an edge. Somebody in your squad can be cheating and feeding you intel
He uses steroids, obviously. Society largely accepts famous people using performance enhancement drugs. Gaming culture certainly does not accept people using cheating software.
@@Diss3mbled that is true, but the problem with steroids is people abuse them for an advantage over others without being open about them. Its so rampant in the fitness industry (especially youtube) a majority of these guys create a false reality that if you just at and train a certain way, you'll look like them. This is not to say you cant achieve excellent results with training hard and a perfect diet- but nothing compared to enhancement. This is why i say if hes willing to use roids as an advantage, it is a strike for me that indicates he may use something else for his advantage in a game.
@@FutureLaugh every semi/pro athlete uses PEDs, soz bud
@@FutureLaugh that is a great point about someone that would be willing to take steroids. it means you care about how people view you. That mindset would easily drive someone to cheat at a video game being afraid to be thought of as bad at the game. also lvndmark cheats 100% it's so obvious to me at least.... there are clips of him looking to a different monitor and reacting almost out of fear of dying in the game to snap directly onto someone aiming at him..... to say he doesn't cheat just means you are a worthless sack a shit.
I definitely agree with all these opinions. I've got 5k plus hours on tarkov. But I will say that it isn't impossible to profit off of rmt via cheats. I had a friend who cheated to make money, and made over 4k while going through 49 eod accounts which he then used to purchase a new high quality pc to play tarkov on legitimately.
Happy to hear!
Thank you for commenting! It really helps.
I personally made roughly 7-800 selling bitcoins, red rebels, thicc cases, money cases, sicc cases from no lifing the game around the time of quarantine and flippin items on ebay.
Yeah but not today anymore
I have never doubted that most streamers are using enhancements of one type or another. GOAT's video just confirmed what anyone who has been playing Tarkov for 5 minutes, was already sure of. Extend those percentages to the streamers, who are just players like the rest of us, except they crave attention and you dont have to be Brian Cocks to work it out.
I dunno man...
it just seems a bit unreasonable to me at least.
I appreciate the comment regardless.
@@Diss3mbledI hope I'm wrong. But I don't see any compelling reason the streaming community would not have a similar level of cheating to the general community. Add the incentives streamers have and it would actually be amazing if a good number of them were not using some sort of enhancement.
watch what happened to Suddenly_toast...thats what happens when you use cheats for attention on a multiplied scale LOL
After GOATS clip on cheaters in tarkov, there were quite a bit of streamers that were'nt happy with the cheating clip, and that really says something about the streamers...
@@mattiasnystrom5292yes go watch lvandmark reaction. You could see him sweating and saying "this video sucks its just goibg to promote cheating" dude is worried about equal playing field
The best aegument against people who think people like landmark cheat is that cheating software is a handicap. Like glasses, or wheelchairs, it degrades your abilities as you use them more and more because you get to play in an easier environment than if you didn't have cheats. You can see the difference simply in the way people like landmark or sheef move in the game. Most cheaters have horrible situational awareness and movement because they simply dont need those skills. The know where everyone is already because of the radar, and auto hit targets because of the aimbot. This will be the. Ase for 99% of cheaters.
Great point actually.
You know what skill and cheats do????? Shroud would be a god if he was cheating. Acting like Tony wouldn't cheat for millions ..fyi Johnny Depp isn't a real pirate he just lies and plays pretends for money.. Assuming all cheaters must be bad..umm no
@@SpaceRanger187 are you saying that because Johnny Depp plays an pirate in a movie, this means Landmark cheats?
Im saying acting like people will not play pretend for money is rediculous. Acting like you know someone because you watch their stream or movie. Its annoying people acting like they know these people and are bffs and hang out with them all day every day irl. You know what they want you to know about them. To act like streamers aren't or can not be cheating.. Gamers are just simps these days@@ericmcmanus5179
This is not true. Cheats give you more info. Of course you can learn the spawns. But being able to see "yhea a 4 man at ruaf a 3 man ar the train behjnd new gas and a few solos ok lets do this" auto aim only works if you can aim in the first place and when you find out how to work in tarkovs wonky recoil it just lokks lkke you spray and get the lucky one tap. I used simmlar tools in offline and it didnt make me better..it jhst gave me more info on how to engage
I remained on the fence untill I saw the factory clip. Lvndmark gets full blinded and makes like 6 specific turns to get out of gate 3 and makes like two precise jumps WITH A GUY CHASING HIM SHOOTING AT HIM and gets away in a full blind. Ive yet to see a single person dispell that blatant cheating. Lvndmark is good at the game naturally like this video says. BUT he absolutely does cheat on the regular.
I saw that clip as well. He is apparently a Factory main. I can certainly see him able to run around with his eyes closed. It is explained away by a bit of luck and his opponent being terrible.
@@Diss3mbled I know in your video you said that people wouldnt let their minds be changed but I think conversely people will stretch to any conclusion to make excuses. Claiming he could execute a play with a full blind sure. But saying he could do like 10 things at once in a full blind strains credulity. Im not saying hes not good at the game he is, but he absolutely cheats.
@@HodgePodge218its possible i had someone full blind me and i made it back into factory corner and merked them LOL if you play factory enough its engrained in your head...and tony has been playing factory through 10k hours plus so..
@@MalevadeTV I litterally don't believe you
thats the beauty of the internet, im just sharing an experience, it was nowhere near the level of the LM clip but *shrugs*
@@HodgePodge218
Hey mate, good vid, on Pestily I think he mainly plays on the Au (Australian) server, and yes there is a problem here with cheaters (I play the same servers), the main ones I come across have non-English names or symbols, IDK what language it is but it is not English, I used to work with Pestily though not closely, he would not cheat, it would be totally against the grain of his personality and morals, he also dies a lot just like the rest of us if you watch his streams, here on YT you get the highlights mostly so whomever thinks he is cheating is mistaken it's that simple he just would not do it.
Yeah I know those servers must suck to play on. You guys really must love to torture yourselves.
ua-cam.com/video/wYfTIDskOHY/v-deo.html lolololol
Evidence right here of the flashbang
I have seen this clip. He is not cheating.
Taking a clip out of context where he just got extremely lucky is not evidence. He has tens of thousands of hours in this game. He can run around factory with his eyes closed.
so u get flashed and immediately start looking at ur other monitor to read chat?@@Diss3mbled
@@Diss3mbled so hes reading chat I guess they are giving him directions eh lmao
@@Diss3mbled He is not cheating bro, he is only looking at his health and by looking at it he can perfectly navigate the level even when he's completely blinded in-game. Makes perfect sense.
It’s actually a paradox his job depends on him winning in the game so is he going to cheat?? Of course yess
I’m not saying landmark is or isn’t cheating I’m just pointing out that the money and … isn’t a good argument
I can see where you are coming from I suppose. Thank you for staying respectful in your objection it really means a ton!!
@@Diss3mbled yeah of course man thank u for making the videos I guess keep it up ❤️
Oh no someone had a simmalr view to me you thibk they are a parrot?
The copium these days is out of control. People don't want to apply themselves and spend time improving. They just want to go from scrub to chad in a days work and it doesn't happen like that. You gotta put in the work to become great. It's not just given to you.
Some people get greedy when the money hits them...just look at the Rust drama with that moody guy who held official tournaments, was a community mod and still cheated his a55 off.
edit: lvndmark isn't one of these frauds for sure.
i love the video homie, you hit it on the nose, this topics been bothering me for a while now. thank you for being the voice! I hope to see you in my streams soon!!!!!
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There are for sure some bigger streamers who cheat. But someone like Lvndmark or WillerZ are just God level good. Someone like Viibiin is sus. And if they are cheating, they would still have to be really good. The only thing they could ever use long term might be walls.
Yeah I can see streamers closet cheating. But I mean if they have a huge viewership they will eventually get caught.
@@Diss3mbledjust like major leage sports players. They cant be on performance enhanceing drugs! They would get caught and loose eveything.
why is Viibin sus?
1. There where some parts during fresh wipe with landmark that made me really say how did he know? its ok to be skeptical about something, id rather ppl be skeptical then blindly say that someone cheats or doesn't cheat based on the level of skill that they have. 2. there are 100% cheaters that cheat for RMT, cs had a massive problem where ppl would hard cheat in casual then once the acc was lvl 15 and gained trust they would sell the acc so that other cheaters could hop right into comp as soon as they got banned on another acc, there has been cases in tarkov where a group would hire someone with cheats to kill juiced players and they would take their loot, and im sure that there are plenty other games that aren't in the spotlight it really just depends on the game itself. 3. you can get cheats very easy without needing to show an ID simply because paypal exists and other forms of payment but to my second point, once ppl have the software theres another form of revenue that these ppl have and thats selling accounts, rust has a huge issue with this. In terms of getting the cheats themselves there are cheat discords where you can talk with others, and im sure they also promote cheats as well.
As response to your second point I would have you rewatch 8:45 and 9:25
As a response to your third point I will say you simply misunderstood me. I know you do not need an ID to purchase cheats and RMT. I never said that.
I actually think we mostly agree. There may have been a simple misunderstanding or language barrier. Regardless I appreciate the thorough and courteous comment.
@@Diss3mbled yea i can see what you are saying, its just at some parts it seems like you say that there isnt rmt then saying its a problem, in one part of the vid you say that there is no incentive to cheat for money then say that its a problem, so that might be where the confusion is, the points are kinda scattered. the ID part how you framed it made it seem as if they couldn't cheat unless they had ID's, i think a little constructive criticism would be to avoid confusion by drilling a point instead of blanket statements like "most are children" because when saying that it makes it seem like in order for them to cheat they need ID's, you arent saying anything wrong but you arent making your point well i guess is what im trying to say.
Shroud & Pestily are 2 streamers I know deep down are legit. Willerz & Lvdnmark give me a gut feeling i cannot get rid of.
I also see this is manily a tarkov channel but I have been playing Deadrop for awhile now ( snapshot 2 ) and cheaters in that game are already killing it for me. The game isnt even out yet. SMH what Id do to go back to the Socom days
loved this breakdown! Thank you
I appreciate the comment man!! You are awesome.
I don't think every one who cheats does it for RMT. i also understand that the state of gaming not just tarkov is riddled with cheats. i stopped playing tarkov when the major cheat video came out and played several other games from APEX to SOT.... during this time they all had cheaters. and i thought to myself some of those games dont have even a real monetary gain behind it but Tarkov could very easily weather it be carry's or items etc.. and i realized cheating is just plaguing gaming not just the one game i enjoy either way cheaters are in every game and probably not always doing it for RMT. so now I'm back playing a game i enjoy and also feel the need to say either something clicked for me this wipe or this has been one of the easier wipes in tarkov. sure there are suss moments but sometimes its just bad luck not always a cheater.
Sucks to hear you had to deal with cheaters in SOT
I love that game more than my own mother, I have thousands of hour in it. I do not think I have ever run into a blatant cheater.
Yeah but what about the vibrating wifi plug ? 😏 Checkmate
LMFAO I forgot about that 🤣
i realy like the video nice approch to speak some sense . Hope you will make some more vids in the future !
Yes sir! Thank you for commenting!
You can't really say statistically speaking some of the prevalent streamers cheat. We've gotten a good idea how many cheaters there are in the general population but you can't just apply that to a non-random population. For example, it would be silly if you said 50% of people are women, therefor 50% of people playng tarkov are women.
Thats why he said semi-prevalent. Legit so many of the top streamers in the event got banned soooo
I said it. I was not being literal.
Hey, I would love to hear your opinion on Amur_game, a russian yt bloger, who is very suspicious.
I agree with your opinion, thus I am going to parrot it
jk of course, but I like this outlook and the attempt to be more objective
knowing that most cheaters are kids is even a bit inspiring, it makes me think I can win with my raw skill even if they are using wh or radar
tarkov probably has a lot of cheaters who are super mechanically bad, and one can use it too their advantage
In researching for other videos I have seen cheating gameplay. They are truly terrible, even the adults. Regardless of what they say, they are cheating because they are bad at the game. You would probably be surprised to know how many cheaters you have killed. Even the people who are not entirely terrible mechanically can oftentimes lean too much on their software and you can outplay them.
Been suspicions of one and only one streamer in all my time playing Tarkov and its because of their after raid loot pics. I fully understand that people learn maps for high tier loot spawn areas and such and while this streamer has shown to be really good at the game something doesn't sit right with me when it comes to their loot. Its similar to someone I used to play with that I found out was cheating because of the weird looting patterns they had and how they would just leave rare shit behind because "I don't need it" when that item is extremely expensive like a GPU. Not dead set on them being one but sometimes pattern recognition is a bitch.
Not gunna lie I have seen sus clips, but all can usually be explained away.
I mean if you dedicate your life to one game then you have to be good at it eventually that's why streamers like landmark play like that
If u talk about someone who makes money from this u can’t really know . Did he get to where he is by cheating or not Or both .
If he is skilled he will eventually cheat to keep up with cheaters
I think people refuse to believe that others can be better than them sometimes...
@@Diss3mbled yeah that’s also another factor
I dont even follow lvndmark on twitch. But I can tell that if you think he is cheating than you live a very average life and probably quit anything difficult in life and havent given 110% to any aspect of your life. Youre the same kind of person buying a 5 minute ab program during spring break rather than just going to the gym for 30mins a day for a couple months. Lost on the internet and Lost in life. All the people on reddit with 200 hours comparing themselves to someone with 20 thousand hours. In what hobby, dialogue, form of education, job, profession does that comparison make sense at all because I cant find one. Its one of the most basic laws of the universe.. if you do something over and over and over and over youll probably be quite good at it. Those same people probably work a 9-5 and they would consider themselves good at their job. lvndmark plays more hours a week than you work so it only makes even more sense that he would be good at his job. I cant believe it even still an arugement... instead of watching his highlight reels of his best moments just watch 45mins of his live stream and watch him get tarkov'd 6 times in a row. And the fact that people have started cheating because they think he is cheating... how much of a loser can you be.
Tl:dr you dont watch the streamer in question but if you have any doubts about cheating you are dumb and a big stinky. Lol nice essay
Even if RMT didnt exist the game would still be plagued with cheaters lol, they do it cuz they think its funny, also idk about other games having a worse cheating problem than Tarkov lol. Its pretty high at there all u gotta do is go afk in a bush with meta ammo and gun slick and faceshield helmet and watch the nades come flying in
Other games are plagued with free cheats. If you find a free cheat in Tarkov it is probably a virus.
For example CSGO cheaters were oftentimes children just screwing around with free software.
@@Diss3mbled i mean yea csgo has more cheaters but idk lol. I find it hard to believe anyone plays that game in ranked legit expecting not to see a cheater even if ur verified
Do you think he make 100k$ in monthly?😮
@@mishalw210 he literally does
really love the content and your views on a lot of shit in Tarkov, 5500 hours here and i can agree with almost every single one of your points.
Hell yeah! Thank you man! More to come!
used to think Lvndmark cheats, dude is just a normal regular guy.
I agree
adderall mark copium is always sweet
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100%
great video man!!
I appreciate the comment man! You are the best!
Are you pronouncing things that way on purpose
People have different accents. I am not entirely sure what you are referring to.
I wasn't coming at you homie sorry if that came off wrong. I've just watched a lot of your content and you were putting a lot of emphasis on your "T" sounds for some reason in this voice over and I wasn't sure what was sounding so different to me - it was just jarring that is all
Sounds like an Irish accent to me could be wrong tho as I’ve been wrong in the past about many things lol
@vinayingle342 it's called enunciation, didn't you ever do Shakespeare in junior high?
It’s a northern thing. Sizzle your s’s and scream your t’s
DanM of Tarkov
dunno who dat is
Gg
then why are you making a video on a whole problem if you only care of what happens in north america, and dont want to research past that?
I in fact only care about NA servers. Why would I care about other servers? I am genuinely interested to hear you elaborate.
@@Diss3mbled on eu and ru servers, rmt or boosting cheaters are more prevalent. Why do you think community overall jokes about chinese hackers? Because they could actually make money, and for your region this money isnt enough to drive someone to cheat for rmt, infact knowing US prices i dont think you can even survive on this. But in russia i know a guy who in 2021 bought a car (cheap one but a car nonetheless) with rmt money. China in some regions could be even poorer than russia so i have no doubt someone could see rmt as a way to make money. Also people from EU tend to play on US servers because they are easier/emptyer in general, but i doubt any chinese cheater could play on US servers since they are already using vpn and such to play on eu. Hope that you changed your opinion on this, and atleast understand that "NA region" could also be affected by things happening outside of it, lol.
landmark cheats 100% I've seen way too many clips.
Oki
to the inexperienced eye a person like landmark might seem like a GOD to them. something that cannot be compared to or competed with, but... this is just the difference between someone with under 1k hours and someone with well over 10k hours of experience.
i have a buddy who ive been playing with for over 3 years but i first met him, when another friend of mine invited him to play ranked with us. (r6s is the game it all began) we were platinum rank and the new guy was low gold.. within the first season of playing.. this guy shot up to the highest platinum rank and almost to diamond :D i was in disbelief, but i was slowly catching up!
now we both have roughly around 1k hours in tarkov (there is like a 300-500h difference with me having more) and id say we are on par with each other 😂
some people are simply better and some are just more experienced
Yeah inexperience with a hint of gullibility.
best video best surfer
if legit players RMT why wouldn't cheaters?
i know of people who RMT with complete legit in game funds on multiple games
paypal or a direct wire or even just a gift cards doesn't really need any ID verification, if indian scammers can do it why cant a smell neck beard?
you say a listing on a site but you can find people in game to buy, no site or any other paywall needed
RMT is just trading, it doesn't even need to be a currency, you could trade items or even carries. Most people hack or get stolen cards and then buy game money and sell essentially stolen money
but i cant see a good reason someone cant make money from trading in a game if all the funds and items were legit, if you make more that $400 you have to report it on your taxes lmao
not every or even most cheats are paid for, only the scams. you dont even need to be running the cheat on the computer you are on, or even a computer period. servers and proxies allow for a world of wonder
you say they aren't hacking until they permanently break your install
if people flyhack around and rage hack no stop for little to know reason, wouldn't the possibility of making money be a bigger reason
runescape's economy is more stable than some countries, and people literally grind and farm and RMT as a job
I actually know where you got all of these "facts" from. You pulled them out of your a**
@@Diss3mbled never I my life have I see a more heartbreaking defeat. I didn't say they where facts
Where did you get yours lmao
Where
@@Diss3mbled and ur totally right, brizillian youth aren't working on runescape and not normal jobs.i just made that up, totally
@@Diss3mbledyour whole video is acting like you k ow something people don't
You say 1k hours but you and I both know you can just sit in a game
You are not an authority on any of this, you are in fact talking out your ass
awesome video man
You have the same name as my twin sister. 👀
update ur discord invite link please !
Yes sir! Apologies!