If you got 1 thousand dollars buy a casio for $25 and bank the rest. 10 year battery life with 20bar water protection. No servicing required and it even has a backlight.
THank you for this video. I wanted to buy the PRX when it was released a years ago, but didnt like how it looks on my wrist (most because of how the bracelete makes the watch looks bigger). This PRX made of forgged carbon fiber looks so good to me that Im really thinking about buying it, algo se strap seems that doesnt make the watch look bigger as the bracelete does.
Something is off with your picture and sound. I guess the sync of image and sound is not perfect. Check you post. Makes it a struggle to watch. Beside that, great content. Thx for the vid!
Love the new PRX in forged carbon. I wonder if the strap is the same width as the steel 40mm version as the forged carbon PRX is slightly bigger. I would love to put it on an orange rubber strap.
Very informative, thank you! Though I'll probably go for the Sideral :) how did you get in touch with the people at Tissot if you don't mind me asking?
I haven't been hands on with the Colchester but there's a lot I like about it on paper - especially the recessed crown and the fact that it's COSC certified. I only wish they hadn't obscured the movement with the Parachute Regiment badge (even though it's a cool unit to be associated with).
@Escapement24 just by looks and what you know about the Colchester, what watch would you pick out of the two, . Tissot or c.w. lol it's hard I've still not picked yet..
Yeah, that actually exists and it’s made by Zenith and countless other high-end brands who offer integrated case designs. The PRX is an affordable, gateway watch which is why it’s been such a hit.
Since forged carbon is essentially resin with carbon chunks and that the watch does not appear to have any coating, I wonder how vulnerable to scratches it is. Unlike its stainless steel counterparts, you can't have a badly scratched forged carbon watch re-finished!
You’re saying the movement is serviceable, but most likely only my Tissot and even then they’ll most likely toss it and replace it with a new unit. So which is it really ?
It's a bit of an open secret that outside of really complicated and vintage watches, the economics of actually servicing a watch just aren't there. There's a massive shortage of qualified watchmakers, so the lead times on services and repairs are massive. It's not just Tissot, I've heard rumours of brands up to the Tudor range and beyond just outright chucking movements. Beyond that, the main issue with the Powermatic80 compared to the base sellita movement is that to streamline production Swatch made some of the sub-assemblies drop in casette components. So, fundamentally, yes, you can take apart and service a Powermatic80, even if some of the parts are designed to just be replaced as sub-assemblies, however Swatch doesn't really like to give out parts to independent watchmakers, so you can struggle to find people who can work on the movement. It's like you can technically have your Powermatic80s recalibrated. However you need to have a proprietary machine to do it. And only Swatch really has those machines. So until the patents expire and 3rd party suppliers can fill the gap, it can be a struggle to service the movement. That said, it's a pretty bombproof movement, so /shrug
At this price point and if you get 10 years of enjoyment and reliable running out of it, does it really matter? As I understand, Omega uses Delrin in some of its movements, which is a plastic compound, as does Zenith. It's known for being extremely hard wearing.
Actually just checked and the higher end version of the PM80 used in this watch does NOT use any synthetic/plastic parts. The lower end versions (e.g. as used in the Blancpain x Swatch) use a plastic pallet fork and balance wheel.
@@Escapement24 well, I like to know what I am getting. and I think, especially when it’s about hyped stuff, you got to look at the whole thing. you gotta be critical. quality will last anyway. I just don’t think it’s enough to only see the good side eeeverybody is crazy about. like every patek has an „issue“ I guess. and yes, I think the prx is worth the money
@Escapement24 Thanks. I'm torn on the sizing. The PRX 40mm with the bracelet was too large on my 6.5" wrist. Does the rubber strap make a difference? I don't like the oversized look on my wrist
@Escapement24 do you think this carbon case with a orange or white strap would stand out too much? I like the idea of a sport watch but don't want the attention of let's say, a Tsar Bomba wrist presence
Can someone explain to me why this is 50% more expensive? To my knowledge, „forged carbon“ is basically leftovers (trash) from carbon fiber production mixed with resin either pressed in to dyes or CNC milled and then given its fancy marketing name that makes it sounds super high end. It does not have the strength of carbon fiber. I habe the feeling thag machining a stainless steel watch + bracelet should be more expensive than this rubber band forged carbon model. I really like the looks I have to admit though!
It's around 30% more than the steel version. Forged carbon watch cases have to have a steel "core" or frame under the carbon shell, so it's a more complex construction. The shell is relatively inexpensive to produce but the tooling for the moulds is expensive and I believe there's a high failure rate, which I guess has to be factored in to the overall cost. But undoubtedly some of the extra cost will be because they feel it can be sold for a premium over the steel version.
Once the novelty hype-dust has settled and impulse buys have added yet another unnecessary accessory to the collection, the used market places will reveal the losses of which the patient shall gain.
Nothing to do with Brexit, despite what you'd love to blame it on. We have higher taxes and Britain is and has always been expensive for everything. It's the same price, or slightly less on average, than in other European markets. 1/5 for effort.
Great video, Simon! Hands on is the only way to do a review. I hope that as channel grows you’d be able to get more pieces in for a review. It just shows what a brand can do with Swatch power behind it. Forged carbon case, and silicon spring for under 1k. It’s safer for Swatch to experiment with lower tier brands before bringing innovations upmarket. Cheers! 🥃
No disrespect, but how many watches have you Said you might buy with your own money, then never bought v ones you did and still own? It's playground talk 👦
Well I'm pretty sure I said in my video about the white dial PRX that I was tempted to buy that and I did add one to my collection a few weeks later. Not sure if I said it in a playground but it's possible 🤔🤣
Got my PRX Carbon Yesterday. After 48 hours, nah, not worth it; for a black design, it's too many sparks, and it cheapens the look. An open case back doesn't make sense, and there is nothing to look at. Make it black, and it will be a different story. I don't like polished indices or polished date windows. It's just not working for me. The build quality is decent, but in general, It feels like a toy watch. So, this watch is going back to tissot
PRX is an awful watch IME. PVD = It will scratch through to the silver and look real bad. Why Tissot do not man up their awesome Gentleman is plain weird. All brushed, no date, three fold clasp with tool less micro adjust 😎
Love my 35mm gold auto, it truly screams "buy a used car from me" in the best possible way
Similar tastes. It's the angles of the Zenith and PRX cases that get me.
Yeah Im gonna get this thanks to your review. Good stuff.
I’ve been so close on numerous occasions to buy the Tissot Sideral… until this PRX showed up!🥰🤣👍🏼
Same!! I really liked the Sideral when I reviewed it, mainly because of the carbon case. Now I'd take the PRX.
You convinced me to buy this piece. Thank you!
Does that make me "an influencer"? 🤣
If you got 1 thousand dollars buy a casio for $25 and bank the rest. 10 year battery life with 20bar water protection. No servicing required and it even has a backlight.
I hope there is a market for it in 35mm, automatic, of course.
THank you for this video. I wanted to buy the PRX when it was released a years ago, but didnt like how it looks on my wrist (most because of how the bracelete makes the watch looks bigger).
This PRX made of forgged carbon fiber looks so good to me that Im really thinking about buying it, algo se strap seems that doesnt make the watch look bigger as the bracelete does.
Something is off with your picture and sound. I guess the sync of image and sound is not perfect. Check you post. Makes it a struggle to watch. Beside that, great content. Thx for the vid!
Love the new PRX in forged carbon. I wonder if the strap is the same width as the steel 40mm version as the forged carbon PRX is slightly bigger. I would love to put it on an orange rubber strap.
I should've tried the strap from my white 40mm while I had the carbon sample, but from memory the size of the lugs looked identical
First actual hands on review…was hoping you would put the white strap on the new model,that would really show the forged carbon😮
It crossed my mind but as it only comes with the black strap I thought this might confuse people 👍
@@Escapement24would it even fit? The forged carbon case has slightly different dimensions
Looks great. I have one on order from my dealer. Carbon fiber seems to be a thing now.
How is the legibility for older eyes, at different angles?
My nearsight is awful (I have to wear glasses to read messages on my phone 🙈) but I had no problems with legibility on this
I love the PRX but I cant stand how thin the indicies are. I wish they'd increase them to modern datejust demensions.
Nice review, thanks.
🙏🙏🙏
I picked up ice blue but hate the bracelet. Changed it with a deluge strap
Yeah the bracelet links don't articulate enough IMO
You should try the white strap with the carbon fiber case! Just to see how good it look with a contrast color.
doesn't the rubber strap feel kinda cheap? i just would like to know.
It doesn't to me
Very informative, thank you! Though I'll probably go for the Sideral :) how did you get in touch with the people at Tissot if you don't mind me asking?
Thanks! 🙏 I've been in contact with the Tissot PR team for a while - I think I originally sent an enquiry through the website and they responded
@ thank you once again, and keep up the good videos!
I think I still prefer the Sideral!
I think quartz in this one would be even better to fully capitalise on the weight savings.
Looks very nice…. Im a Tissot fan but the PRX havnt catch me… but this could be the one. I like the Power80 its a good movement
how about if they made carbon (not forged) quartz one, wonder how that’d do
Here make it easier. Wear a Fitness watch when you work out or do an activity. When you're finished. Put on the everyday watches. That's what I do.
Its this watch or c.wards Colchester that im split between, what do you prefer?..
I haven't been hands on with the Colchester but there's a lot I like about it on paper - especially the recessed crown and the fact that it's COSC certified. I only wish they hadn't obscured the movement with the Parachute Regiment badge (even though it's a cool unit to be associated with).
@Escapement24 just by looks and what you know about the Colchester, what watch would you pick out of the two, . Tissot or c.w. lol it's hard I've still not picked yet..
Purely going by looks I prefer the Tissot, but looks are only half the story! It's a tough choice but I think either would be a solid choice
@Escapement24 cheers.
Nice video Simon,I like the PRX,personally prefer steel model but I'm sure that carbon one will sell.
Excelente review, saludos desde Colombia.....
That watch looks so good! Just wish it didn't cost as much 😔
If I see one in person, it may be an impulse buy.
The tissot prx is the only watch I actually see in the wild tbh
Gotta meet some more people. I've seen speedys, subs, panerais out there.
Great video! Seems like a pretty cool watch!
Thanks dude! 🙏
first review in deed cool watch.
What in the Zenith is going on here??
The prx has always been a little bit too cheap for me. I would love them to take away the powermatic 80 and upgrade the watch
Yeah, that actually exists and it’s made by Zenith and countless other high-end brands who offer integrated case designs. The PRX is an affordable, gateway watch which is why it’s been such a hit.
I have a quartz PRX too, I shall buy this one too. In Sha Allah. It's a beauty.
Insha allah
Like it! Might wait for the Ali express version with better lume though!!! 😂
Since forged carbon is essentially resin with carbon chunks and that the watch does not appear to have any coating, I wonder how vulnerable to scratches it is. Unlike its stainless steel counterparts, you can't have a badly scratched forged carbon watch re-finished!
Tissot, could we have a forged carbon bracelet to go with this next?
You’re saying the movement is serviceable, but most likely only my Tissot and even then they’ll most likely toss it and replace it with a new unit. So which is it really ?
It's a bit of an open secret that outside of really complicated and vintage watches, the economics of actually servicing a watch just aren't there. There's a massive shortage of qualified watchmakers, so the lead times on services and repairs are massive. It's not just Tissot, I've heard rumours of brands up to the Tudor range and beyond just outright chucking movements.
Beyond that, the main issue with the Powermatic80 compared to the base sellita movement is that to streamline production Swatch made some of the sub-assemblies drop in casette components.
So, fundamentally, yes, you can take apart and service a Powermatic80, even if some of the parts are designed to just be replaced as sub-assemblies, however Swatch doesn't really like to give out parts to independent watchmakers, so you can struggle to find people who can work on the movement.
It's like you can technically have your Powermatic80s recalibrated. However you need to have a proprietary machine to do it. And only Swatch really has those machines.
So until the patents expire and 3rd party suppliers can fill the gap, it can be a struggle to service the movement.
That said, it's a pretty bombproof movement, so /shrug
They need to delete date window or move it to 6 position
Fantastic video brother 👏 I love this release ❤
Thanks Miguel! Yeah I think Tissot have done a great job here 👌
@@Escapement24 💯
so it‘s forged carbon.
is it still around a plastic escapement..?
At this price point and if you get 10 years of enjoyment and reliable running out of it, does it really matter?
As I understand, Omega uses Delrin in some of its movements, which is a plastic compound, as does Zenith. It's known for being extremely hard wearing.
Actually just checked and the higher end version of the PM80 used in this watch does NOT use any synthetic/plastic parts. The lower end versions (e.g. as used in the Blancpain x Swatch) use a plastic pallet fork and balance wheel.
@@Escapement24 well, I like to know what I am getting. and I think, especially when it’s about hyped stuff, you got to look at the whole thing. you gotta be critical. quality will last anyway. I just don’t think it’s enough to only see the good side eeeverybody is crazy about. like every patek has an „issue“ I guess.
and yes, I think the prx is worth the money
@@Escapement24 ah! great approval!
@@Escapement24 and thanks for checking! that’s journalism, mate..😏👍
Beautiful watch.
Something off about the sound. It looks dubbed. Sound and video is slightly off.
What is your wrist size?
Between 6.25" - 6.5"
@Escapement24 Thanks. I'm torn on the sizing. The PRX 40mm with the bracelet was too large on my 6.5" wrist. Does the rubber strap make a difference? I don't like the oversized look on my wrist
I also can't wear the PRX on a bracelet but on the rubber strap I can get away with it as the rubber hugs the wrist more
@Escapement24 do you think this carbon case with a orange or white strap would stand out too much? I like the idea of a sport watch but don't want the attention of let's say, a Tsar Bomba wrist presence
good video
This in 35mm would be hard to resist
I hope this watch comes in black stainless steel band
I heard that forged carbon toilet seats have a steel core. Get well soon!
😂😂😂
Great review of the watch Simon. On a side note, how are you 50!? I thought you were in your late 30’s like me! Christ I look old. 😂
Thanks man...I've had COVID this week and felt about 90!! 😂
He definitely looks younger than 50 .
30's is pushing it .
@julienfroidevaux1143 haha I'd take 49 😂👍
@@Escapement24 Early 40' S I say take that.
@julienfroidevaux1143 hilarious how there are almost as many comments about my age as the watch 😂
The rubber band puts me off
his name is Simon and he talks about watches
I would argue that the lume isn't that important on this style of watch to be honest.
Can someone explain to me why this is 50% more expensive? To my knowledge, „forged carbon“ is basically leftovers (trash) from carbon fiber production mixed with resin either pressed in to dyes or CNC milled and then given its fancy marketing name that makes it sounds super high end. It does not have the strength of carbon fiber. I habe the feeling thag machining a stainless steel watch + bracelet should be more expensive than this rubber band forged carbon model. I really like the looks I have to admit though!
It's around 30% more than the steel version. Forged carbon watch cases have to have a steel "core" or frame under the carbon shell, so it's a more complex construction. The shell is relatively inexpensive to produce but the tooling for the moulds is expensive and I believe there's a high failure rate, which I guess has to be factored in to the overall cost. But undoubtedly some of the extra cost will be because they feel it can be sold for a premium over the steel version.
@ couldn‘t have hoped for a more conclusive answer! 👌
I want this in a 35mm
Once the novelty hype-dust has settled and impulse buys have added yet another unnecessary accessory to the collection, the used market places will reveal the losses of which the patient shall gain.
£960 in the UK? That’s Brexit for you. It retails for less than £800 in Asia. Waiting to collect mine.
It is £990 here in India.
It probably VAT, in Denmark which is part of EU we have 25% VAT and when I look at the price it’s £1083 or if we set it in usd 1407
Nothing to do with Brexit, despite what you'd love to blame it on. We have higher taxes and Britain is and has always been expensive for everything. It's the same price, or slightly less on average, than in other European markets. 1/5 for effort.
Yawn😴
Its the same in switzerland
bad visibilty the black one
Great video, Simon! Hands on is the only way to do a review.
I hope that as channel grows you’d be able to get more pieces in for a review.
It just shows what a brand can do with Swatch power behind it. Forged carbon case, and silicon spring for under 1k.
It’s safer for Swatch to experiment with lower tier brands before bringing innovations upmarket.
Cheers! 🥃
🙏🙏🙏
No disrespect, but how many watches have you Said you might buy with your own money, then never bought v ones you did and still own?
It's playground talk 👦
Well I'm pretty sure I said in my video about the white dial PRX that I was tempted to buy that and I did add one to my collection a few weeks later. Not sure if I said it in a playground but it's possible 🤔🤣
Got my PRX Carbon Yesterday. After 48 hours, nah, not worth it; for a black design, it's too many sparks, and it cheapens the look.
An open case back doesn't make sense, and there is nothing to look at. Make it black, and it will be a different story. I don't like polished indices or polished date windows. It's just not working for me.
The build quality is decent, but in general, It feels like a toy watch.
So, this watch is going back to tissot
With a brown leather strap 🥵🥵🥵
Wait… did you say you are 50 years old?!?! You look 35 at most 😱
Thanks dude, but yep I turned 50 in August 😭
but why u dub yourself instead of buyng a mic?
I don't
zenith crying in the corner
oura 4 is way better
PRX is an awful watch IME.
PVD = It will scratch through to the silver and look real bad.
Why Tissot do not man up their awesome Gentleman is plain weird.
All brushed, no date, three fold clasp with tool less micro adjust 😎
Actually…Forged carbon is not PVD. It’s not simply an applied coating. It’s a solid case material. It isn’t really my cup of tea, but just FYI.
@@MrKwan007 I was referring to the case back.
Carbon watches tend to always have PVD parts that look awful after a while.
None. You can find much better watches under 1K or 2K pounds.
Unpopular opinion. It looks like a cheap, plastic watch
You should see it in real you will see that carbon looks different it's just like that on camera
Plastic movement, now plastic dial, yay!
Plastic in and out uh?