The 2020 Lexus RC F is a Fun Performance Throwback | Road Test
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- Опубліковано 30 жов 2019
- In the world of high-performance luxury the stakes keep rising. There’s so much to consider… style… comfort… and of course that adrenaline rush when you punch the throttle. If it’s a coupe… so much the better. Like this Lexus RC F . So, let’s see if this rare, “radical coupe” is ready to excite and impress.
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The RC F and GS F is one of the last cars with the NA V8
One of the best cars ever
BASITH PH That is a good point, there are not many naturally aspirated V8 cars remaining in production. Lexus GS & RC, Genesis G80 & G90, Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, Charger. Infiniti Q70 is finished soon.
Turbo V8 > NA V8
@@basshead. Noone cares about the 55 AMG
basshead sure in power but NA V8 has a better sound and more reliable
+BASITH PH But turbo V8 is easier/cheaper to tune if you want more power.
V8? Pushing 500hp? Coupe? Stacked exhaust tips? Great seats? Gimme! I'll take this any day over the new Supra.
The Mustang GT is the better buy.
@@basshead. the gt500 yes but not the mustang trash interior an exterior
+david wade Mustang looks much better than this generic looking Lexus.
exactly
basshead as a weekend car yet, but this fits a better daily driver bill than a Mustang As far as the luxury aspect
Turbos are faster but this will last forever with little fuss.
you can add your own supercharge too if you like.
Sounds like Toyota to me
Last of the NA v8 luxury car. They need to bring back the isf
Kevin Wiltshire It has been a rumor that they are bringing a new IS out Bmw will be helping with that also unfortunately, in the IS is RUMORED to have a twin turbo I-6
@@JDMHaze I understand why they do that to say cost but if I wanted a bmw I would by a bmw. Its like the new supra Toyota couldnt even change the the interior. Nothing beats the sound of that v8
Kevin Wiltshire Toyota has more than enough money to legitimately make a supra And they need to cut the bullshit excuses, they let bmw do pretty much everything with this car the badge is probably made in the BMW factory too
@@JDMHaze its not that they dont have the money it keeps cost down. Dont forget back in 95 the supra cost 60k. Thats means if Toyota would have developed there own car engine ext. The supra would be at least 120k in todays money
Kevin Wiltshire The supra did quite well,, And as far as I'm concerned the RC chassis could've been slimmed, modified And they could've easily taken the TwinTurbo V6 from the LS500,, BAM 💥,,,
3:10 Your launch control failed because you have yet to clean the track. I've mentioned this in other videos and that track desparately needs rubber removal. Motor Trend needs to do their due diligence in track maintenance (or find someone who does).
Wayyy too much wheel spin my rcf has no wheel spin dont need launch control lol
I bet the folks at carwow could properly laugh it. Watching them fail to launch the car angers me
Dish track service and maintenance hasn't been done since the times of the retro reviews lol
@@JDMHaze Exactly. It's an abomination to this channel.
Aviation Direction the track looked wet lol,, That's probably armorall tire shine lmaoo from shredded tires
Toyota/Lexus V8s are works of art. I have a 2nd gen LS400 with the 1UZ and it still runs beautifully.
This will never sell well as a new car, but this will be an amazing used performance car buy in the years to come
The used ones sold new at one point ha but I get what you're saying.
I bought a used GSF 2 years ago, its a great daily.
Lexus hold value well, it wont be cheap
Eh you be paying out the same amount of money with the RCF because it doesn’t really have any technological pit falls and they are mechanically sound too so it will hold value well honestly it sells pretty good new and the same used
Man the RC F looks so good
Would love to have the RC F Track Edition!
Looks pretty dull. A typical generic Asian look.
lol k ^
+Reid Evers The headlights look like they got them from Mazda, and this thing reminds me of the Infinity Q60. Typical Asian design.
@@basshead. lol ok^
I would rather buy a used 2018 LC 500 for 70k. Thats a cool looking car
Man I wish Lexus would have offered even the IS350 in a stick.
Only thing missing from this reliable brand.
Immediate thumbs up when I see John Davis handling review duties. Very good review of a smoking hot car!
These are the cars that down the road are racking hundreds of thousands of miles while the German v8's and v6t's are sitting in junkyards or on buy here pay here used car lots for $6,000 waiting for someone to make a bad decision. It's such a great thing to see Lexus keep using this motor, and I hope they continue to do so. The V6t's sound like crap and can't hack it long term.
RC has only been around 5 years LOL. Most dont even have 100,000 miles yet 🙄🙄🙄
@@Housee01 The IS-F has been around long enough to have cars in his range. There's one on the Lexus forum with over 350k on it and service records confirm just basic fluids. It's a proven motor from a proven company. It's reflected in the resale values.
@@CleanSC IS-F is NOT an RC-F.
CleanSC 😂 and there’s an E55 AMG at 419K, I mean cmon I love and owned my fair share of Lexus’s in past but there some stellar V8’s from MB that destroys the lexus v8’s. The company has slept on there laurels of banking on reliability name.
@@Housee01 It's the same engine.
Beautiful love the Lexus sport and luxury V8 bullets proof 😎👍
ahhh a real motorweek review
Hello chef takumi, bring me more tuna belly sashimi
김동준 where is your location
The 2020 Lexus RCF has some really nice tasteful styling improvements even thought it’s very gradual and minimal. The interior trim is great just needed to refresh the infotainment system engine is also amazing N/A V8!
Love this channel
the styling looks good
Were you ever at Q.B.H. in Detroit?
The updated styling looks fantastic. Side note - I think a lot of that wheelspin is the result of all those rubber patches on the road. Looks slippery.
The way he dissed the information system was a thing of beauty. Honestly it's the dangerous infotainment system that keeps me away from considering any Lexus. As always, awesome review John. 😎😎😎
Bought the car, sold my 1991 porche carrea four wheel drive for twice I paid, difficult to drive in traffic, this Lexus RX coupe is a joy, will drive until my children put me in a home 🙋‼️
Nice work
Ahh... the day has finally arrived. Motorweek doing doug demuro video titles
This looks like a nice car
This should have been the Supra
Nah
Too slow and ugly
@@imtheonehero9305but its actually better looking and faster than the actual supra
@@turbosydney lmao. No it's not. The interior is outdated here. Supra is fast 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Supra will win in a track race and have better aftermarket potential
@@imtheonehero9305 they have almost the same performance but still the lexus is better in almost every way than the toyota z4. A great sounding v8, superior looks and build quality, it may be outdated a bit but its still miles better than the supras interior. A supra may be marginally faster but as a whole package the lexus is a way better car
Does the rcf have seperate trans cooler ? As opposed to the isf that is combined?....only asking as my mate hit a fox in his isf and the rad swapped fluids ...very expensive repair.
I love the RC350!
I need that ISF asap, Lexus. It's been TOO long.
Cuz yours is TOO small
@@user-xt8pw4jn6e nah
As the owner of a 1992 Lexus SC400, I was pleasantly surprised to see that the new Lexus has something in common with my car.
The gas mileage numbers are IDENTICAL. Hahahahahaha 😂
Baddest Burrito lmaooo😂😂😂 I would say the weighy but the RC almost as heavy as the RX LMAOOO😂😂😂
@@JDMHaze Yeah...and I thought (at 3,600 lbs) that my car was a pig. New cars are absolute WHALES for body weight. LC500: 4,600 lbs!!
Baddest Burrito 4600 is insane lmao
@@JDMHaze It's just TOO MUCH.
Baddest Burrito I have no idea why he is a new Lexus models are so damn heavy.... the IS350 weighs more than my damn Avalon,, The IS is at about 3700-3800ibs
Why did they not mention the RC 350 F sport 3.5 L V6 with 312 hp?!?!
I was thinking exactly the same, maybe it got a little confusing for them with the RC 350 (Base) but even that one should have 311 hp... (Not 260 hp) paired with 8 speed A/TM
i like it!
RCF chassis/suspension is 80% officially different from the RC350 so no, they don't have much relation as far as performance/handling goes. Also, those wheels are identical to the 19 inch 20 spoke hand polished wheels in the pre-2020 models so they have not been reshaped.
@@EnnesX The suspension and chassis components were new/redesigned for RCF. The suspension double wishbones/multi links, dampers, differential, axles, springs, TVD etc. were completely designed for the RCF, which is why many parts cannot be swapped into RC350 because of the different dimensions. Also, RCF has chassis bracing in the hood, door, trunk/rear seat, underbody that were designed just for the RCF.
dear sir!
please evaluate a 2020 corvette c8
This host has been doing this for a good minute respect 👏
Thank you lexus/Toyota
I don’t watch but I listen to these while studying, and it’s amazing how I can’t tell the difference in a modern review and a 30 year review, thanks to my guys consistent voice over! 🤘🤜
I would get a Lexus F over a Mercedes AMG all day any day
And maybe BMW M unless it has a manual transmission
BMW M cars look incredible! But they're not reliable.
ErwinSchrodinger64 yeah they’re decent with the manual
I've owned an Is-F and both a C63 6.3 and E63 6.3 and the AMG's make you wonder why this RCF is still in production. This thing is on par with a premium mustang GT if even that
@@OIR339 I completely agree. The AMG and the Coyote engine are incredible and those cars, in particular, are far more viceral... character. However, what good is a car that constantly breaks after 50,000 miles (not as bad with the Mustang). In the end, reliability is the reason why RC-F is still made.
yaseenshuja1 yeah I see what you mean but the IS F is an amazing car and the RC F is a good car too
But the GS F is better than the RC F as the weight suits the sedan rather than the coupe and a friend of mine has a GS F
I think you should have checked to see how much damage these do to aluminum
“None is the European have the character of this”
Exactly. This car is really cool and looks sharp. I love those F seats. The NA V8 is a masterpiece I would love to pick up one of these cars.
I didn't like the RC when it first came out. Overweight, not the greatest looker, interior could be better
But it has aged well. It's looks now have character, and stand out versus the Germans
It's engine stands out, has a song to sing, unlike the Germans
And it's ride is more compliant and attitude is friendlier. Like an old friend you meet at the pub.
Am I the only Slow Driver who buy performance car just to drive at the speed limit?
Put some sand bags in the trunk to get better rear grip..
Team Lexus 🤙🤙🤙🤙
Live laugh love lexus
Virtually no body roll? 3:46?
Put some stickier tires on it, it'll be a lot faster
LEXUS should make F exclusive stuff:
1. A dual clutch transmission
2. F Badge instead of L used sparingly where appropriate
3. An extra few horsies
4. Better torque vectoring performance
5. Carbon fiber bits and pieces like what AMG does
Some of these might be gimmicks but they sell to majority of rich car enthusiast who does mostly armchair racing and parking lot showboating.
They need to fire whoever keeps putting that infotainment touchpad instead of a touch screen that’s closer to the driver with Apple car play
Agreed
I'd love to get one of these after someone else eats the depreciation
Lexus wants you to add Turbos.
How does this compare to the Supra in terms of performance
I own an 2015 RC F so I am biased. But I would admit the Supra beats the RC F in performance. However, I need back seats and I despise the Zupra front nose.
you're getting a IN HOUSE TRU toyota motor,, N/A v8 Which sounds amazing , l I've heard from another supra owner it drives well But I'm starting to think the novelty of the new super will wear off on an owner, however the aftermarket support for the supra is a very strong especially so early
Much less weight but close to 400 hp so probably faster especially around the track.
Supra is quicker and easier to tune in every way. This car is great as a luxury gran tourer, but don't mistake it for a track rat. Not even the track edition. There's a reason why most ISF owners won't sell their cars for an RCF..
Why the host sounds like he's featuring a price on the price is right
That's his style of narration. He's been doing it like that's since the 80's reviews!!
Why didn't toyota take this car use the 3.5 v6 and make it new supra
itsMike I've been saying that forever, they could've gotten the new TwinTurbo V6 from LS500 , Took some of the weight out of this RC Modify the chassis a little and Bam 💥
@@JDMHaze 3,5 turbo would be even faster than this V8
this car is an afterthought to begin with. You can’t compare this to a dedicated sportscar platform the Zupra has. I do, however like the RCF styling 5 times more.
They really couldve just easily used the new camry engine add a supercharger and ecm tune like the lotus but hey it Toyota
@@CM-jm6ui well...then it wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the numbers that the i6 in the mk5s easily pulling with very few mods...
Toyota king of autos.none come near to this brand ,my brand forever ...👍❤👑👑👑👑👑👏👏👏👏👍👍😃
"Their first attempt at performance with the IS F"
Dude, you've completely forgotten about the SC300 and 400.
As an owner of one and someone who used to work at Infiniti, it may have been more oriented to luxury than sports, but the thing is a verifiable beast.
"ALL ABOUT PERFORMANCE".?????....how does all that weight help performance? Are the tires the highest performance available? is the engine the highest performance Lexus has built?
It's more performance than you would ever need on the road. Unless you are a professional driver you won't notice. If you care about weight that much then you need to forgo thick sound deadening glass, rear seats, carpet, cruise control, airbags, air conditioning etc. This is a luxury, quick road car, not a race car.
@@jonesjones7057 Motorweek said in their review "ALL ABOUT PERFORMANCE"....should NOT use words like that a performance car....ok BUT ALL ABOUT PERFORMANCE...means something else which this car is NOT
@@JerryCecco ok whatever. It sucks don't get one.
My $ 9K 2011 WRX Hatch, has a turbo back exhaust ($500.) Pod Filter ($50) tune ($175) & Exedy Clutch ($700.) & blows the doors off this RCF, the rexy runs 0- 60kmph @ 4.3 seconds. Plus its awd !
No offense but the car lost its exotic charm with this refresh. Pre-refresh looked organic even if polarizing. This one tone that down and made it look more mainstream.
the announcer in this video sounds like the one on price is right ...
Too bad lexus doesn't turn up the HP on this V8 but knowing them they will get rid of it
Ya with a super charger they could get this thing to like 650 hp and make it an M5 rival
Really needs a 6 speed manual option or DCT. Lexus needs to understand this is a sports car , not a grand touring vehicle. At this price point, you're going up against things like the Shelby GT 350 & BMW M4. Only 8 speed auto? Really? Back In 2014/15, enthusiasts were begging for a manual transmission. And for emphasis, the new Supra, Toyota was "shocked" that the enthusiasts were clamoring for a *manual transmission*. I don't think Toyota & Lexus really get it. I guess if they're making enough profit, they'll just carry on.
whats up with this guy's color?
Biggest problem the GS-F and RC-F faces is competition so many choices out there and fact that in used car market these cars command roughly in low 50’s to mid 40’s. And being Lexus owners were cheapskates.
RC F: Reliable Muscle V8 that sounds awesome
M4: Unreliable tin can sounding burble
telling us "virtually no body roll" while we can actually see it roll quite a bit, bad timing for that comment :)
3:39 💔💔
Is Lexus having Stevie Wonder style it's cars? Sure seems like it to me.
What the new Supra should have been based off of!!!😔
Wayyy to heavy to be a supra.
see you in 5 years time when its price are better
Think it will get you laid?
Wayyy too much wheelspin thats why they couldn't get a better 1/4 time ...my 2016 RCF has no wheelspin from the dig with traction control off(expert mode) an its just as quick or faster then an m4 at 12.3 in the 1/4 mile
I love gsf/rcf but no way its faster or same fast to m4/M3 no way
Dirty track, not maintained. Its deplorable that they do test runs on it.
@@jakubek89 itll hang or beat an m4 m3 drivermod
The Shelby GT350 is what this car hopes to be
Better this than supra
Won't even touch a supra
Honestly, the Lexus RC is a great build quality of a vehicle; but in the world of turbocharged inline 4s and 6s, this engine is a bit dated (built proof but dated).
Placing a new inline 6 turbo (built by Toyota) in this chassis would have been a slam dunk in the market.
Bullet*
I prefer the older styling of the rcf
So do i especially the taillights...the preface looks better but i do like the new headlights
Yeah the new headlights look better as one piece rather than the two separate lightss
@@ReidEvers Yes exactly! 2015 RC F owner here.
me too!! Well I Like the new headlights, and bumper/grill but the rest they could've kept
I'd take a GT 5.0 or a GT350 over THIS.
Annnnnd, u guys @ Motorweek shoulda worked out the kinks with the LAUNCH CONTROL BEFORE PRESENTING THIS. D 4 EFFORT
They really should have
Ok firstly 470hp is good, but an 8spd auto is a disgrace. Secondly the interior looks like my camry which pisses me off because you can tell by the wheel that its for the seniors. Thirdly I dont think the RC did any actual weight savings so that 470 must still feel slow and lastly the looks of the car would never bring me close enough to even want to test drive it. I'll stick with my Vipers and Vettes thank you (I also like the LFA, Chrylser crossfire SRT6, Porsche 996 GT3, Aston DB9, Spyker, F360 challenge, Lambo Diablo, etc. Etc. Cars in this segment were previously very expensive eh?)
Is it just me, or is this just a Lexus Sc
THE DAMN THING NEEDS AWD!!
ONLY if you have an I-phone
Hmm let's see 65k for this or 59k for a brand new C8 lol
This xD
A loaded C8 is closer to $98k lol..Plus you're comparing a grand tourer with sporty intentions to a mid engine performance above all coupe. My 11 year old ISF I redlined every day for 70k mile, sold it at 99k without a single issue ever. My C5 squeaked like crazy at only 6 years old..
@@valdaviper1 I get that you're not Necessarily comparing apples to apples, however from a purely performance standpoint, it's not even close! Also no one said anything about fully loaded, all you need is the z51 performance package, which will put you at around 55k to achieve that insane super car comparable 0-60 along with the great looks, it's a no brainer really.
@@frankcastle1578 Again, you're comparing a luxury coupe with 4 seats released in 2014,(honestly designed in 2007) to a brand new mid engine design performance coupe designed in 2019. It's a no brainer if you want performance above all. I agree with you 100%. I'm sad that Lexus can't make a car faster than the 08 ISF with a single handling upgrade, or one faster than the 2011 ISF. Reason why I jumped from my 08 F to a 12 F instead of an RCF..But performance isn't the only thing that sells cars. No one buys a Lexus for performance above all, not even me.
@@valdaviper1 definitely you're right, no one will ever buy a Lexus for performance, although this one here does have performance as a "selling point" in my opinion, Lexus was going for that (as well as luxury of course). I know they don't compete directly. But I'm just saying firm my very own point of view if I had the money and I wanted a really fast car with amazing looks to boot, I'd go for the c8 all day. But again looks are subjective, you might think the c8 is ugly, who knows. I'd only buy the Lexus on the used market as I'm sure then it would be a good performance/luxury bargain.
Better buy these because they will soon disappear
Too much power 😂😂😂😂😂 will last ten years without turbos
I’ll take my M340 xdrive over this any day. Interior is so dated. Like a 90’s Lincoln Town Car.
It won't last as long as this car for sure.
Frisk Mall I won’t have it long enough to find out.
Frisk Mall plus no one cares how long they last, most are leased anyway. Residual values are the only thing that matters and BMW and Audi have exceptional residual values...especially the M and S/RS monikers.
Good. Don't drive an RC F thank you.
No one cares about long term reliability as long as the easy financing and favorable lease terms exist that keep the residuals high.
Let’s get into another recession based credit crunch and you’ll be dropping the time bombs and running back to something that’s actually engineered properly to last more than just the 1st 5 years of life.
I don’t fault people that lease stuff or drive Audi’s and BMWs cause it can actually make sense from a financial standpoint but make no mistake..... most of them are just pretty pieces of junk on a timer. If I was going high end I wouldn’t touch anything other than a Porsche, Lexus, or lotus for a daily driver.
A Golf R does naught to 60 in 4.6 seconds.
Already smokked a golf R in my rcf
The Mustang GT hits 60 in 4 seconds
C8 Corvette 2.9
And looks like shit, like poor shity golf 1,6, hide it in forest
Leave a comment if you think C8 VETTE is the better choice or like if you rather take home the RCF.
This looks like a 2020 Supra...not the POS from BMW.
Sadly these will never be as good at the track as the offerings from Cadillac, Mercedes, BMW and Alfa Romero. But they're definitely a dead-reliable street poser which is what most buyers want anyway. Wish Lexus and Infiniti would aim a little higher though. Kind of reminds me of the BMW Supra.....swing and a miss.
People buy supras instead of this smh !
lol lol crap....i keep my LC500H.....and my fisker karma and my BMW 530E
Glad you are happy but the 500h lacks performance and the sound that makes these cars so nice. RC F owner here.
Please do.
Over priced
I don't know why I can't stand this guy's voice
No manual transmission ... No thanks
$65K I’ll pass
That interior is so outdated...
Nice clone of a Mustang GT
The Mustang GT looks much better. This thing is soulless.
Current Mustangs came out back in 14, thought it was a nice clone of BMW 6 series ^^
+deephouse O This generation Mustang looks like a 69 Mustang Fastback.
Best looking mustang was the 2013-2014 much better then these new ford fusion lookalike stangs...The Rcf is clean looks muchhhh better inside and out then the boring looking mustang
@@basshead. Trash stang
Gosh........😕 Looks like a Hyundai.....
too bad its another seriously overpriced toyota.
legit you could just buy a Mazda or any muscle car of your choice and have just as much or more fun.
especially considering that half of the muscle cars have more power... (baby) and cost less.
LOL...buy a Mazda....yeah, okay.
@@MrMSBII dood you know the miata is quick.
@@sixpest, it ain't that quick.
Very true. The Mustang GT is $30k cheaper, faster and you can get it with a stick. Even Mustang's 10 speed auto trans is better than Lexus's 8 speed auto trans.
@@basshead. yeah? How's it better? It's a Ford...hard pass.
😏👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
still an outdated toyota slow..
These drive like crap though... who goes to Lexus for performance?
Pure slow and heavy. Fat outdated car. Infotainment is the worst on the planet. A waste of money. Buy a V6 Camry instead, far better interior, almost as quick, more reliable, and much better infotainment. The RC-F is a waste of money,. like all Lexus vehicles these days. They used to be nice, 15 years ago.
Haha poor idiot, just idiot nothing to say, just idiot
Stupididiot
Very stupid design!!