NOCK FIT CHART: www.onlinearcheryacademy.com/nock-fit-guide/ TIMESTAMPS: 01:18 - The 5 checks for perfect nock fit 01:46 - Check 1 (sound) 02:55 - Check 2 (rotation) 03:39 - Check 3 (wiggle) 04:18 - Check 4 (vertical spacing) 05:40 - Check 5 (string tap) 06:35 - NOCK FIT CHART (Use this to find the nock size/string size/serving size combination that will give you the best nock fit) 09:35 - Don't try and adjust nock fit like this! 10:36 - Easy way to loosen your nock fit 11:08 - Easy way to tighten your nock fit
Thank you for taking the time to make the nock and serving chart.., I'm not new to Archery, probably been behind the string for close to 20 years off and on. I just recently started with a recurve and I guess I just got lucky with the proper nock and string because I haven't had any issues.. But I recently picked up a Diamond SB1 Compound , and then that's when I started having issues after about 100 or so shots. Everything was going well with my SB1 until I got some very expensive arrows.. I guess the nocks on them were not of best quality even though the shafts, fetching, and tips were all pretty good. It's funny bc my old PSE which I've been shooting since 2005 I never ever had a single slip so I rarely paid close attention to that area of the Bow.. With Compounds and hunting it's all about your sights, compactness, power, broadheads and of course stealth.. Until I had a arrow slip off my serving point yesterday causing me to dry fire and shooting my peep sight into oblivion I didn't pay super close attention to that area. I paid enough attention to make sure I was getting a good fit but not to the detail you provided.. Sorry about the long ass post..
I really appreciate you making this video I kept on breaking my nock's and did not know why but they are too tight thank you again for this demonstration.
Hi Ashe, many thanks for your videos. They are still up to date! I have 42,5# on my finger and I use Beiter PinNock #1 on BCY 8125 with 21 strands and an Angel 0.015" serving. Beiter wants a stringsqueremeter of 2,70mm or 0.106" for the Beiter #1 nock. I checked that out and think, it's too strong. Therefor, I unwax the strands in the area, where the nockposition will be and put the Angel 0.015" serving verry strong around the strands, to get 2.45mm stringsqueremeter at the nockingpoints. B.t.w., I use the easy nockingoints and fix them with some superglue. Since I build my strings I never needed to rebuild one. Take care and stay healthy!
The sound 'doongg' is similar to the sound of my nock as I pull it from the string. My nock fitment is correct; I guess so. The thickness of the center serving is very important to me. I have used various servings, from budget prices to bcy 62xs and powergrip. So far, BCY PowerGrip is the best serving thread.
Great video. I needed to watch this. I have been having problems with different nocks. Crazy arrow flights from some nocks, perfect flight with others... Same arrows, different nocks. With some nocks, I can fix the erratic arrow flight by moving the nocking point up. Probably not the correct way to do it.
Fantastic, really enjoying your videos as I'm brand new to Archery. I'm really enjoying the hobby and have started making strings now 🙂 Easton Nocks BTW
I started to use beiter nocking points. Hard to install but once it is properly installed it works perfectly, especially with beiter nocks. No need to do anything with it for whole season and counting.
Beiter #1 pin nocks. By the way, there is a lot of difference between the colors in regards to strand thickness. Black and white is usually the thinnest whereas the fluo colors are much thicker.
Hi Ashe. First of all I would like to thank you for all the great content you are putting out, it's helping me no end. Regarding the nocks, mine pass the tests except for the tapping the string. No matter how hard I hit it the arrow isn't coming off. I use Easton small groove on recurve string. I'm a bit sceptical to go to large groove nocks as I've heard these are for compound. If I pull the string back about an inch and loose, the arrow does detach ok. Also I've heard regarding nocks, it's important to knock that like button. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
Hi John! Good point, for the Easton ones they do fit a bit differently to the Beiter. The best way is just to loosen the fit slightly on the other tests, so there might be a tiny bit more 'play' than you would expect with the Beiter, but then it gives a better all round fit. It's just because of the shape of the ears of the nock and how they're different between the Beiter and the Easton ones. The nock fit guide should help with this too :)
Do us a favour, Ashe; put the point of an arrow onto the kitchen scales then push your string (strung bow) against the nock and see how many grams it needs until it clicks on. Some of the combinations on your charts have been nowhere near (for me) with different colours of 8125 as others have noted. Thanks for the good work!
I couldn't find the Nock Fit Chart when I clicked on the link...just a membership joining OAA for $2.99. Do you have to pay/join to use the Nock Fit Chart?
Easton. But will probably swap to Beiter in the future. Another (and I in my humble opinion better) way of making tighter nock fit is to use a thread seal Teflon tape under the serving. This way you can accurately tune the nock fit using on size of thin serving and don't have to buy multiple (quite pricey) spools to get the nock fit properly. Another benefit is that thin serving is obviously lighter, and you can put the tape just under the nock so you get tiny bit less string mass. But that's probably negligible difference.
I can't get my centre serving over the riser level enough for nock fitting and my brace height is well out but I have taken all the twists out of the bowstring help me please
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy While on the topic of serving, a question has been on my mind for a while and I don't know if you've mentioned this before, but: I've seen some people at competitions (and those on the GB national team) shoot with strings that don't have any serving at all on the end loops and they claimed it made the string sit flush and was generally "nicer" on the limb. They did have serving on the centre part of the string, however. What would you say about this? Or perhaps it's another video idea :D
Hi Ashe, I shoot Easton pin nocks size2, used to use Beiter no2 and the cotton reel, as with normal serving, and Beiter nocks if I came down from full draw, when I drew up next the arrow would pinch off the string, hence change to Easton nocks, which don’t do this, have you any thoughts on why this would happen, with the Beiter nocking point they stayed on, is it to much wiggle room? Keith
It sounds like the nocking points may have been too close together with the Beiter nocks and squeezed the nock off the string - or the fit was slightly incorrect which made them come off.
I just posted about the same problem. My fit appears identical or perhaps slightly tighter than my Easton’s, but well within the ideal perimeters. Not sure why this is happening. There is a comfortable wiggle.
I know this is an older video but my serving is a little worn down and I have the spider cup team 720 out door in a couple of days. i got some new arrows pre-fletched, nocked, and tipped, gorgeous, but the nocks are too large! Any ideas for a quick fix?
So, I’ve been trying my old Beiter pin #1 because I want to try overnocks for outdoor season. My nocks fit all of the guidelines in this video, but I’m having a weird fit issue. When I let down I discover that my nock has started to come off of the string. This doesn’t happen with my Easton pins and the Easton’s are slightly looser by comparison.
That is odd - are the nocking points definitely not pinching the nock? If not, then the only explanation would be that the Beiter No.1 are slightly wider than the Easton nocks so when you come down you might be moving the Beiter nock with your fingers? Let me know if this helps :)
Online Archery Academy that could be it, but I don’t think it is. I’m thinking it might just be slightly too loose. It takes a decent tug to snap it off though.
Online Archery Academy, what I love about them is the consistency no matter what type, eg I use pins and over nocks on my X10s. 12/2s as G Nock equivalents and 19/2s as supernock equivalents and every one has the same ‘business end’ and consistent fit when making my own strings.
Online Archery Academy My experience is that fluorescent colors are the thickest. I got the same thickness with 24 strands of red 8190 as 20 strands of fluorescent yellow 8190.
My nocks are so loose because the string is very thin it doesn`t even click into place ,This all sounds a bit technical for me as i`m new to archery ,can`t i just buy a thicker string as they are around £15 ? but how do i know which string fits my nock ? the arrows i use are colorful eagle ,500 spine ,6.2mm inner and 7.2mm outer diameter , my bow is a core archery 70" 38lb ,can any one help ?
Check out the nock fit chart (link in the description). If you show this to whoever makes your string and let them know what nocks you shoot that should do it :) Essentially the nock size needs to match the string.
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy I use a pin nock on the x10 for extra protection on the off chance I Robin Hood it. The x7 are 2212 and the beiter were recommended by the shop. I dont know why
Why the hell do they make the pin nocks that supposedly have the same size groove so small with smaller groove? It's really obnoxious...I can buy normal nocks and their fine, pin version of ANY of them.. specd same size..too small.. it's all lies wtf.
7:40 I would really like to see those charts but you are charging $2.99 per month subscription fee? I understand your content has grown in the last 2 years bro but you should still offer some free valuable information. I can't remember the last time I clicked a suggested link in a description and someone wanted to charge for it. 👎👎👎
Online Archery Academy I tried out-nocks but ended up killing an x10, so swapped back to pin nocks. I might be wrong but I'm sure I've read they now make out-nocks that fit over a pin....thanks for the vids, really good content 👍
no sir , me too. I found for my string that beiter were a little too loose and wore out more quickly. Perhaps I just got a bad batch but they also didn't fit the easton pins on my acg very well , rotated and cost me some fletchings, so bohning for me , and they're half the price🙂
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy push-in g nock for acc, g pin nock for ace/x10.... Supernock for xx75... I mainly shoot acc arrows 16 strand string 8125... Can't remember the serving material.. It was a little tight but not overly tight I'll double check the fit tonight on the pin nocks and compare with your chart
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TIMESTAMPS:
01:18 - The 5 checks for perfect nock fit
01:46 - Check 1 (sound)
02:55 - Check 2 (rotation)
03:39 - Check 3 (wiggle)
04:18 - Check 4 (vertical spacing)
05:40 - Check 5 (string tap)
06:35 - NOCK FIT CHART (Use this to find the nock size/string size/serving size combination that will give you the best nock fit)
09:35 - Don't try and adjust nock fit like this!
10:36 - Easy way to loosen your nock fit
11:08 - Easy way to tighten your nock fit
OMG thanks so much for this chart! Defo saved me so much time/moeny trying to find the best serving material
Thank you for taking the time to make the nock and serving chart..,
I'm not new to Archery, probably been behind the string for close to 20 years off and on. I just recently started with a recurve and I guess I just got lucky with the proper nock and string because I haven't had any issues..
But I recently picked up a Diamond SB1 Compound , and then that's when I started having issues after about 100 or so shots. Everything was going well with my SB1 until I got some very expensive arrows.. I guess the nocks on them were not of best quality even though the shafts, fetching, and tips were all pretty good. It's funny bc my old PSE which I've been shooting since 2005 I never ever had a single slip so I rarely paid close attention to that area of the Bow.. With Compounds and hunting it's all about your sights, compactness, power, broadheads and of course stealth.. Until I had a arrow slip off my serving point yesterday causing me to dry fire and shooting my peep sight into oblivion I didn't pay super close attention to that area. I paid enough attention to make sure I was getting a good fit but not to the detail you provided..
Sorry about the long ass post..
I really appreciate you making this video I kept on breaking my nock's and did not know why but they are too tight thank you again for this demonstration.
Hi Ashe,
many thanks for your videos. They are still up to date! I have 42,5# on my finger and I use Beiter PinNock #1 on BCY 8125 with 21 strands and an Angel 0.015" serving.
Beiter wants a stringsqueremeter of 2,70mm or 0.106" for the Beiter #1 nock. I checked that out and think, it's too strong. Therefor, I unwax the strands in the area, where the nockposition will be and put the Angel 0.015" serving verry strong around the strands, to get 2.45mm stringsqueremeter at the nockingpoints.
B.t.w., I use the easy nockingoints and fix them with some superglue.
Since I build my strings I never needed to rebuild one.
Take care and stay healthy!
The sound 'doongg' is similar to the sound of my nock as I pull it from the string. My nock fitment is correct; I guess so. The thickness of the center serving is very important to me. I have used various servings, from budget prices to bcy 62xs and powergrip. So far, BCY PowerGrip is the best serving thread.
Great advice.
I like the details and the precise descriptions.
Great video. I needed to watch this. I have been having problems with different nocks. Crazy arrow flights from some nocks, perfect flight with others... Same arrows, different nocks. With some nocks, I can fix the erratic arrow flight by moving the nocking point up. Probably not the correct way to do it.
Thanks you so much for the serving guide... invaluable!
Fantastic, really enjoying your videos as I'm brand new to Archery. I'm really enjoying the hobby and have started making strings now 🙂 Easton Nocks BTW
I started to use beiter nocking points. Hard to install but once it is properly installed it works perfectly, especially with beiter nocks. No need to do anything with it for whole season and counting.
Beiter #1 pin nocks.
By the way, there is a lot of difference between the colors in regards to strand thickness. Black and white is usually the thinnest whereas the fluo colors are much thicker.
Very true! For reference the nock fit guide was made with black string material :)
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy ah great.
Indoor Easton G-Nocks on ACC arrows, outdoor Beiter asymmetric pinnocks on ACG arrows.
Nice!
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy, you probably know that Beiter Insert Nocks don't fit into ACC inserts properly.
Hi Ashe. First of all I would like to thank you for all the great content you are putting out, it's helping me no end. Regarding the nocks, mine pass the tests except for the tapping the string. No matter how hard I hit it the arrow isn't coming off. I use Easton small groove on recurve string. I'm a bit sceptical to go to large groove nocks as I've heard these are for compound. If I pull the string back about an inch and loose, the arrow does detach ok. Also I've heard regarding nocks, it's important to knock that like button. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
Hi John! Good point, for the Easton ones they do fit a bit differently to the Beiter. The best way is just to loosen the fit slightly on the other tests, so there might be a tiny bit more 'play' than you would expect with the Beiter, but then it gives a better all round fit. It's just because of the shape of the ears of the nock and how they're different between the Beiter and the Easton ones.
The nock fit guide should help with this too :)
Beiter nock in out nr 2 and X10 shaft. Perfect fit and have never ruined a shaft when hitting a nock! :-)
Love it!
I use easton G-nocks #1 with x7 arrows (indoor) and use beiter nocks #2 with ace's (outdoor)
Nice!
Do us a favour, Ashe; put the point of an arrow onto the kitchen scales then push your string (strung bow) against the nock and see how many grams it needs until it clicks on. Some of the combinations on your charts have been nowhere near (for me) with different colours of 8125 as others have noted. Thanks for the good work!
Easton is all I've ever used.
Beiter #1 (Pin) on a 20 Strand FF+ string
Same as me! Strong choice obviously 😆
Use G nocks. Interesting lesson. While my nocks don't fall off the string, from this lesson, I'm thinking they maybe a touch to loose. Thanks.
Hello. I saw your nocking point and it so clean and great looking. Please tell me how to do it. Thanks!
Thanks Joms! I'll do that in a future video :)
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy Likewise. Looking forward to your next video.
Very good, thank you.🏹🤠👍
Easton Large G-pin nock, getting a good fit with 24 strand Brownell fury with 0.018 angel majesty serving.
Love the Angel 0.018!
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy not sold on the angel majesty string as I seemed to get a lot of creep, but I love the serving!
I couldn't find the Nock Fit Chart when I clicked on the link...just a membership joining OAA for $2.99. Do you have to pay/join to use the Nock Fit Chart?
Easton L recurve but I would love to use Beiter if not for the price difference.
Both are great to be fair! :)
Beiter asymmetrical on ACG's and ACE's (barebow)
Easton. But will probably swap to Beiter in the future. Another (and I in my humble opinion better) way of making tighter nock fit is to use a thread seal Teflon tape under the serving. This way you can accurately tune the nock fit using on size of thin serving and don't have to buy multiple (quite pricey) spools to get the nock fit properly. Another benefit is that thin serving is obviously lighter, and you can put the tape just under the nock so you get tiny bit less string mass. But that's probably negligible difference.
That's a great suggestion! Thanks so much for sharing too :)
Easton nocks
Easton
Beiter #1 Also use Beiter nocking points would you not recommend them ? I did have a reduce strands to get good fit.
Awesome! I do recommend using serving material and thread nocking points instead :) The chart can help you get a good fit :)
I can't get my centre serving over the riser level enough for nock fitting and my brace height is well out but I have taken all the twists out of the bowstring help me please
Easton nock on ACC and x10
Awesome! Thanks for sharing :)
My arrow goes up and down when it's attached on the string (like it's slippery). Is it bad? And do I have to change to nock?
Beiter 1 on carbon 1
Easton pin nocks right now, but thinking of switching to the new Beiter pin nocks when they're on the market! :)
Nice, definitely use the nock chart to find what serving material you need then :)
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy While on the topic of serving, a question has been on my mind for a while and I don't know if you've mentioned this before, but:
I've seen some people at competitions (and those on the GB national team) shoot with strings that don't have any serving at all on the end loops and they claimed it made the string sit flush and was generally "nicer" on the limb. They did have serving on the centre part of the string, however.
What would you say about this?
Or perhaps it's another video idea :D
Hi Ashe, I shoot Easton pin nocks size2, used to use Beiter no2 and the cotton reel, as with normal serving, and Beiter nocks if I came down from full draw, when I drew up next the arrow would pinch off the string, hence change to Easton nocks, which don’t do this, have you any thoughts on why this would happen, with the Beiter nocking point they stayed on, is it to much wiggle room? Keith
It sounds like the nocking points may have been too close together with the Beiter nocks and squeezed the nock off the string - or the fit was slightly incorrect which made them come off.
I just posted about the same problem. My fit appears identical or perhaps slightly tighter than my Easton’s, but well within the ideal perimeters. Not sure why this is happening. There is a comfortable wiggle.
Beiter assymetric #1 on pins.
Awesome!
I have never paid attention to the type of nock, until very recently. I'm guessing they are Easton, since most of my arrows are Easton.
All Easton
Nice!
why not just custom fit tight nocks to your string? am i missing something to me that seems like the better option
someone tell me the reason
Easton here, but looking to change to Beiter :)
Nice, you might find you also need a slightly higher nocking point with the Beiter nocks too.
I know this is an older video but my serving is a little worn down and I have the spider cup team 720 out door in a couple of days. i got some new arrows pre-fletched, nocked, and tipped, gorgeous, but the nocks are too large! Any ideas for a quick fix?
Changed to Beiter #1 small with green bright color ... because on 70m else I can’t see down the range
I love the bright green Beiter!
easton
So, I’ve been trying my old Beiter pin #1 because I want to try overnocks for outdoor season. My nocks fit all of the guidelines in this video, but I’m having a weird fit issue. When I let down I discover that my nock has started to come off of the string. This doesn’t happen with my Easton pins and the Easton’s are slightly looser by comparison.
That is odd - are the nocking points definitely not pinching the nock? If not, then the only explanation would be that the Beiter No.1 are slightly wider than the Easton nocks so when you come down you might be moving the Beiter nock with your fingers? Let me know if this helps :)
Online Archery Academy that could be it, but I don’t think it is. I’m thinking it might just be slightly too loose. It takes a decent tug to snap it off though.
@@GregJebailybaritone Very odd! I'd love to see a video! Feel free to email me at contact@onlinearcheryacademy.com if you'd like :)
Beiter in-out nocks on ACEs
the olympic recurve byter1 nock and de Bear Grizzley Gold Tip Nock. But what do you think about the Beiter Nocking-Point ? (I have never used them)
Awesome! The standard thread nocking points tied on are my preference :)
Easton G
Beiter #2 for me
Awesome, which type do you shoot?
Online Archery Academy, what I love about them is the consistency no matter what type, eg I use pins and over nocks on my X10s. 12/2s as G Nock equivalents and 19/2s as supernock equivalents and every one has the same ‘business end’ and consistent fit when making my own strings.
Beiter for me, with a Beiter nocking point. Made for each other. ☺️😏
beiter #2 pin
Nice! Seems like a lot of pin nocks in the comments!
Beiter out nock on a/c/e
Love the Beiter out nock!
There could be a major difference in strand thickness with different colors. Was the chart made with white strings?
That's a great point! I made the strings using black string material :)
Online Archery Academy My experience is that fluorescent colors are the thickest. I got the same thickness with 24 strands of red 8190 as 20 strands of fluorescent yellow 8190.
My nocks are so loose because the string is very thin it doesn`t even click into place ,This all sounds a bit technical for me as i`m new to archery ,can`t i just buy a thicker string as they are around £15 ? but how do i know which string fits my nock ? the arrows i use are colorful eagle ,500 spine ,6.2mm inner and 7.2mm outer diameter , my bow is a core archery 70" 38lb ,can any one help ?
Check out the nock fit chart (link in the description). If you show this to whoever makes your string and let them know what nocks you shoot that should do it :) Essentially the nock size needs to match the string.
Easton on x10's beiter on x7's
Nice! What's the reason behind having the different nocks?
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy I use a pin nock on the x10 for extra protection on the off chance I Robin Hood it. The x7 are 2212 and the beiter were recommended by the shop. I dont know why
Beiter #2 (pin nock)
The trusty pin nock!
I use beiter 12/1 nocks.
Do you have any recommendations for the amount of BCY X string material strands compared to 8125G?
Hmm...now that's a good question! I need to do some research for that one!
Online Archery Academy that would be great! I actually mean BCY X99 as the X got discontinued as it seems
Easton nocks here
Strong choice! But what colour? 🤔
Green ones
Why the hell do they make the pin nocks that supposedly have the same size groove so small with smaller groove? It's really obnoxious...I can buy normal nocks and their fine, pin version of ANY of them.. specd same size..too small.. it's all lies wtf.
Beiter pin Easton g pin victory pin ..soma.. everything's too small. Drives me crazy.. driving me crazy. Seriously it's maddening.
AAE, cheap eBay stuff from China, Beiter, Easton. I think I’ll not use the random quality of eBay.
Hahah yeah, stay away from the exploding nocks 😆
Beiter out nock on x10
The dream
Beiter, recurve bow
It's a popular choice!
Beiter asymmetrical easton acc
Strong choices!
Beiter nock on ACE
Beiter asymmetric #1 pin nocks
Strong game! Pin-out nock or universal pin?
Universal pin; have been happy enough with the performance that I haven’t felt the need to try the pin-out nocks.
easton super nocks on my RX7s
and beiter #2 on my skinnies
The nocks on my arrows as they came, chinese
Beiter nocks here
💪
sorry sir....
explain in hindhi
please...!
Beiter
💪
7:40 I would really like to see those charts but you are charging $2.99 per month subscription fee? I understand your content has grown in the last 2 years bro but you should still offer some free valuable information. I can't remember the last time I clicked a suggested link in a description and someone wanted to charge for it. 👎👎👎
Beiter nocks
Nice, which type do you shoot?
Online Archery Academy I tried out-nocks but ended up killing an x10, so swapped back to pin nocks. I might be wrong but I'm sure I've read they now make out-nocks that fit over a pin....thanks for the vids, really good content 👍
Bohning minority? 🤷♂️
Haha I guess so....but if they're good then they're good!
no sir , me too. I found for my string that beiter were a little too loose and wore out more quickly. Perhaps I just got a bad batch but they also didn't fit the easton pins on my acg very well , rotated and cost me some fletchings, so bohning for me , and they're half the price🙂
Easton
Easton nocks
It's a strong choice!
Easton G
Nice!
Beiter
Thanks for sharing!
Easton
Nice! Pin or over nock?
Easton
Nice! Pin or over nock?
Online Archery Academy pin large groove. I had a hard time getting the right fit on the Beiter.
Easton
Pin nock or over nock?
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy push-in g nock for acc, g pin nock for ace/x10.... Supernock for xx75... I mainly shoot acc arrows
16 strand string 8125... Can't remember the serving material.. It was a little tight but not overly tight
I'll double check the fit tonight on the pin nocks and compare with your chart
Beiter
Beiter are a great choice!
Beiter
Strong choice!