What if the Drug War Never Occurred?
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- The War on Drugs has consumed a much larger part of our society then many think.
For decades the US has attempted to combat the sale and use of drugs at home and abroad. Now with greater pressure to legalize marijuana and take profits away from cartels, we ask what would it be like had the War never occurred? Here is one scenario.
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Heyyo Izz.
never declare war on a noun.
country names are nouns
Oh my god
Never declare war on a common noun*
Steven Wills Tell that to Fox News
The war against getting high??
this alternate america is what is actually happening in Portugal as they have made the choice to treat the drug addicts and punish the pusher, the choice might have been made because treating the drug addicts is cheaper than punishing them
ZlyTen *EVEN IF I HAVE THEIR PERMISSION.
if we treated drug addicts as patients instead of criminals then people's lives wouldn't be ruined and they would be able to get off of drugs in the first place.
snakeboy213 dont look at my other comments
Same with my country the Philippines
ZlyTen and im proud of it. And both the alien AND the predator
As a disabled vet i seen a new horrible position our vets face today, many men i have seen come home with legs arms and debilitating injuries only to be put on lots of "medication" to cope with the limited mobility, pain etc.. During the "crackdown" on prescription drugs i walked in after many years of having the same prescription only to find out my doctor wont prescribe any medication because he in under investigation..After a day of unimaginable pain and suffering i had to purchase the same medication threw "street" sources.. The war on drugs is now affecting wheelchair bound disabled people that NEED medication... Do i deserve to go to prison because i chose to give up my health for America? What a incredibly unfair and unjust this world is...
Excellent point bravo
Thank you for your service and godspeed man. No one should risk their life for their country and then be forced to live in excruciating pain all while being beaten by the police forces who took all the equipment and strategies you learned as a veteran and then having them used against you. I can't even imagine how that would affect veterans with PTSD. I feel like many would feel like they're in a war zone again and would likely be shot down.
Again, I hope you get better man. You deserve more.
smoke weed man
VVS Casey weed doesn't work for everyone. I tried it and it makes me really paranoid. Every strand
What’s happening to veterans is so horrible. Also I can’t stand how people conflate being anti-war with “anti-veteran"
You also missed how medically ahead we would be too, veteran soldiers of Vietnam would get much faster ptsd treatment same with other soldiers of other wars, there would be less unemployment because of this, and though it wouldn't magically fix everything, it would do a lot more than less.
What are you doing down here?
Agreed. Do you think it would have stopped the raise of criminal biker gangs? I know a lot of them make there money on meth now anyway.
ProtoMario Agreed.
Very true
Go back to your livestream.
Here's a scenario Cody: What if LBJ's War on Poverty was a literal war?
I know this was posted a year ago, but why does this comment not have more likes?
Well that would mean there would be laws against sleeping on the streets, feeding the poor, and disregarding social programs to help them in favor of "trickle down" economics. Wait...
@@CheckFlop I'm thinking if it was a literal war, the military would be deployed to poor neighborhoods and residents would get bombarded with artillery.
@@CrusaderKnight2000 Genocidal conflict
Since US population is heavy with weaponry and some gun guys are poor there would be some martyrs and that could start an Unwinnable war in which the US government would be simply shut down by an super well armed , trained , moralized and funded rebelion
@@GabrielPereira-jd3sn Perhaps.
I love these characters. No matter how serious the topic is they always look funny.
Akira Tamaoki
Same
Akira Tamaoki same
He could be talking about Communists preforming abortions with flamethrowers and I'd still be laughing.
Absolutely
Especially the ones apparently deeply in love with their pizza. I just hope it's a result of weed and not ecstasy 🤣🤣🤣
"Oh, you have some weed on you? Drugs have a risk of ruining your life, so lets ruin your life by throwing you in jail!"
Hjalmar Selberg "Shit, he's got a heroin needle. He's at high risk of overdose and/or getting a needle-born infection. Waste 'im!" *blam* *blam* *blam*
Hjalmar Selberg "omg, you have a pocket full of oxys about to overdose,oh wait, we legalized those"
they dont trow people in jail so they dont ruin their lifes, is because they could ruin another peoples lifes. (sfbe)
That's exactly what a disgusting drug user would say
Renovartio some weeaboo shit calls people disgusting because they do drugs?
Nixon is on record with starting the Drug War as a political tool to help him against the anti-war and left. Just came out a couple of months ago. Traditional Anti-crime bills tend to be useless.
That is true!
Ruining your country to own the libs
I’m not surprised at all. It was just meant to silence opposition.
So we live in the shitty universe currently. How do I go to the other timeline?
time machine or just stop war on drugs
(ง'̀-'́)ง "I'll fuck you up"
You don't. Just gotta deal with other people's mistakes like the rest of us.
Zurround100 All I'm wishing for is the other timeline where only and ONLY the drug war wasn't initiated.
+Zurround100 idiot... Slavery is still legal... In fact it's bigger than its ever been globally. And who said the actual good guys won ww2? Educate yourself, read a book or two.
Article 13th
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, EXCEPT as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
The word except means today 20 years for a stealing an apple.... Pressing license plates... Example.
Ikea used prisons to manufacture products. You probably have something that was made by an ikea slave right now... And the civil war had NOTHING to do with slaves. No one cared, still dont, about them. The war was over states rights, as the north grew bigger and eventually the south had little say in government (like how the UK just Brexited the EU) the south tried and failed to Souxit the US) lol and to fuck they shit up, the slaves were freed ending the industries of the south
"It isn't a war. Wars end" ;) - Detective Carver, The Wire.
You mean a lot of stupid, lazy people.
Ted Wojtasik we will have those no matter what. but if there was no war on drugs and maybe if they were even legal drugs would only be available in tightly regulated shops that would mean kids would have a much harder time getting them because said shops would only sell to adults with valid ID, drug overdoses would be drastically reduced and poisonings from other chemicals frequently added by current black market manufacturers due to lack of oversight would be eliminated because they would be laboratory analyzed so people would know exactly what was in the stuff, cartels would be much less powerful and violent because their sole customer would be the united States government who wouldn't pay nearly as much but would buy far more bulk so they would probably see it as worth behaving themselves somewhat... plus legitimate businesses don't need to kill rape and murder
the cartels exist to deliver a highly profitable product to american markets, because of asset forfeiture its not in the interests of police to interdict smugglers bringing product into the country. its better to seize the money on its way out. they split the take with the feds
Tell that to Afghanistan
A War will end at somepoint. Wars themselves(the concept of nations at war in General) won't. Even if world peace is achieved(no wars and Im guessing no crime), it would only last for so long.
I feel like our timeline is supposed to be the alternate timeline and that makes me sad...
yeah
big brother is watching us all. it really is sad
+TheAlmightyCon I became convinced of that upon learning how much Donald Trump is winning against everyone.
nobody is watching us. THAT is really sad :).
Coby Dupre well he won
As a person born in 2000, I never knew that life had been once no police militarization or so much drug trafficking in latin america.
I'm born in the Netherlands in 1997 where alot of drugs are tolerated or even legal, and i never grew up with the idea that drugs should be illegal and that if you tolerate it, it would cause less problems.
RaPtorteAm that's bc young people are stupid
Toucan SonofSam I don't-what
i born in 2,000 too, but in Mexico XD
Wut? 200 AD?
What if the Soviets developed the nuclear bomb before America during WWII? Would they use it, on who, and how would this affect the Cold War and the post Cold War time period?
That's the best suggestion I've ever seen.
The Adamant They weren't developing the bomb during ww2 ... well they did but it was very slow and they actually cared about the research after america dropped the first bombs.
Also, spies were gathering info for Russians while the bombs were still in development.
The Adamant The Soviets would end up with an advantage over the US at the time, and could have used it to aquire more power during the war peace talks. They also might have dominated during the cold war.
What if the US hadn't used the bomb, though? That's what I'd like to see made into a video.
For instance, my idea:
If the US(or anyone for that matter) hadn't used the bomb at all during the war, it might not have gotten the attention it did, and those who understood the power of nuclear weapons could continue to research and develop it in relative secret. Had this occurred, those with the most progress and desire for research on it, ie the US, could of had a lot more power than they do today. There might not even been a Cold War, as the US would have had a far greater advantage over The Soviet Union. Their wouldn't have been any contest. Being one of the very few only nations with advanced nuclear power would have rocketed the US's influence across the globe, and they could have even been in a position to control the research and development of nuclear weapons, making it difficult for other nations to catch up.
This is only one example and I'd like a video to be done with more depth. Would be interesting to watch, in my opinion.
The Adamant So basically, what if Einstein ran to the Soviet Union instead of the United States.
this is why we must end the war on drugs. remember the prohibition era?
Prohibition didn't work because anyone can make alcohol in their bathroom, it's more difficult to do so with drugs
+looinrims You can legit just grow Marijuana in your garden
are you trying to make an argument that drug prohibition will work? because anyone and their mom could make quite a few of them in their backyard or in their shed.
+Austin Trigloff #Logic #Facts #CommonSense
You all talk about drug prohibition like it isn't already in place and isn't already working terribly.
It's simple...we kill the Batman
We will need to bring in the big guns
I'm thinking lazer rays
Nathan Mills If it's so simple, why not do it yourself?
+Jekk you never do something you're good at for free
But you can't kill the batman you have to break the batman
You...i like you.
The war on drugs was a bone-headed idea since the beginning.
so even when they were trying to help people on drugs
Making recreational drugs illegal does not help addicts at all and never did.
Dean Cutler
Drugs are more available now than they were when they are legal
will sim The Drug War was startes by Nixon because he wanted to crackdown on his political opponents (hippies) and of course minorities.
jack bran They actually are smart. Smart does not mean morally good. Nixon knew what he was doing.
6:15 This part of the video is super important. It shows that problems can be solved via education and other social programs, rather than violence.
+Samuel Stace The entire video is ridiculous after halfway through, it's totally assuming that if drugs are non-criminalized, cartels will stop competing and bloodshed will stop. That's like saying big Apple and Windows will not compete because computers are legal.
The video also doesn't show that problems can be solved via education/social programs. Do you believe people are unaware that drugs are bad for them? Educating people on them is not necessary.
MrNelsonButterscotch Cartels thrive off of anti-drug laws. Why do you think they are against legalization? Portugal is a good example of what can happen when we decriminalize drugs. mic.com/articles/110344/14-years-after-portugal-decriminalized-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening
Mario Salinas What?
+Mario Salinas Marijuana is legal in several states.
+MrNelsonButterscotch the Cartels make money off the ILLEGAL SALE of drugs. If drugs are illegalized then they can't make money.
Never go to war on a noun. It never goes well...
country names are nouns
Common noun*
Harmless Black Guy "War on the Invaders"
Nazi germany is a noun.
Harmless Black Guy I believe you mean an _abstract concept_.
America: Shoot first, Ask questions never
***** ayy lmao
I like stuff no, its shoot first, ask questions 40-50 years later in the form of protest, have your questions go to congress and have congress do nothing bout it
I like stuff Republicans you mean.
America: shoot first ask questions later, mainly because someone is pointing a gun at them.
Niclas A Funny you say that since most shootings occur in Democrat controlled areas :P
There was a heroin epidemic in Switzerland. The giver many responded by creating rehabilitation programs where the paitients would be given clean needles, a job, a house, safe ingestion rooms, and counseling. Over 2/3 of all the addict now sadly back in society and have full time jobs.
It did work right
"Sadly"???
Sadly?
"Sadly?"
Only if you are the pusher.
But are they addicts still? If they are still addicts then you just made life more comfortable for a criminal who no longer needs to worry about police attention
You are my favorite youtuber, keep up the good work.
Jake F Thank you!
AlternateHistoryHub what if the Qing Dynasty never fell?
Gus Redman I second that.
JHopkinsmusic1 me too
I'm increasingly noticing that your videos are more analysis of what did happen and less actual alternate history. You've always done a good job of staying within one scenario but now I'm think your hindering yourself by not speculating enough on what could have happened. Obviously changing a single event will cause a temporal butterfly effect but that's the fun of alternate history! Take a stance, speculate! That's why I loved your channel in the first place.
Not my work though, and still great as always.
Eli Brown When I do more complicated scenarios I have to both teach the event, and explain the significance of it. Without that, somebody who isn't familiar will be left in the dark.
I do want to do more speculating in later videos.
AlternateHistoryHub You should make another video on this and just go down this Rabbit Whole .just take the scnerio that makes the most sense.
AlternateHistoryHub keep foing what ur doin pls
AlternateHistoryHub I really appreciate the approach you've been taking. While a lot of the events on this channel are pretty well known, when you go in depth on them (especially the more complicated things), I feel like I appreciate the scenarios a whole lot more.
But why were they trying to stop pizza?
Post stoned hunger
***** Well pizza is pretty addictive, always gotta have just one more slice.
Zeldas Champion me the pizza lord is very upset about this
Zeldas Champion Two words: marijuana pizza.
(There's actually marijuana pizza in Cambodia.)
+Zeldas Champion
Because all our women are getting fat. And nobody likes fat girls. Except a select few. They are pro-fat bitches. It's a highly debated topic.
Here is an idea. What if Italian organized crime (Camorra, Cosa Nostra and 'Ndrangheta) never existed? From what I have read they played a major role in modern Italian history. Could be an interesting look.
Meaning no Godfather = shit timeline so no
That could honestly hinder Allied war effort a little bit. Organized crime supported Allied desant in Sicily.
I believe Milton Friedman summed the war on drugs up best when he said, "See, if you look at the drug war from a purely economic point of view, the role of the government is to protect the drug cartel. That's literally true." Sadly, he wasn't wrong about that.
Milton Friedman is a genius
One word: Portugal. They treat drug addicts like patients rather than criminals.
Imagine if the 2 trillion wasted on the war on drugs was instead given to NASA we'd probably have off world colonies by now.
We would have moon dust cartels lol
Patchuchan doubtful
it posible pulverizer marijuana for later snort?
Patchuchan
Imagine if we Humans were smart and didn't need money to buy anything. We would be VERYYY advanced
That is the problem with the way our brains are wired to work though. We are not a hive mind. We each have our own thoughts and wants. Most people want an excessive amount of what they actually need but if everyone got their fair share then how would they get more?
“Instead of war on poverty, they got a war on drugs so the police can bother me”
-Tupac Shakur
It seem like everyone forgot the basic lesson we all learned in kindergarten: "Violence doesn't solve anything".
Yes it does. Violence destroyed Nazi germany.
+Sean Goldfeder Violence solve everything, we just restrain it to much. If we killed everyone there would be no drug use :D
+Sean Goldfeder
Either that, or some kindergarten schools have been teaching kids the lesson: "violence solves everything".
+Sean Goldfeder Well they say that, and then they go vote for the war mongering Bushs', 16 years, 3 wars, multiple conflicts and mass surveillance, along with the national debt flying off the charts, CONSERVATIVE MY ASS.
Kelso's choices
1960's peace officer:
Murders solved: 90%
Rapes solved: 70%
Modern drug warrior:
Murders solved: 68%
Rapes solved: 30%
police 45% murders created 10% actual criminals arrested 45% peoples lives ruined because of dumb laws
Watching this gives me mixed feelings. Like its cool to see what could've happened had this gone the other way but it's also annoying to think about how good it could've been when compared to our reality
Cody I'm soooo glad that you made this video it perfectly explains how Latinos and African Americans are victims of the drug war mainly because too many of us have broken down families which means no real income = no education (now you can get scholarships and such easier) but the damage has been done and is still continuing I think if we were too change the policy now (racial tolerance and such have improved and the internet) we could possibly see your alternate history come true. I mainly understand this because I was one of those kids I've grown now but only because of the help around me without it I would have been lost in the war
What if the nazis successfully invaded and occupied the Soviet Union? Or what if the nazis never invaded the Soviet Union?
dimapez >Successful
Germany's invasion of the USSR being doomed to failure was the whole point of the book.
dimapez Agreed. The only way you could say that the Germans failed in this scenario is that they've locked themselves into a long war of attrition with both the Soviets and large East European rebel groups (I believe it's stated or at least alluded to that rebel raids on cities in the east aren't uncommon occurrences) that is going to ultimately kick them in the ass. I wouldn't be surprised if US-Vietnam War levels of public unrest begin in Germany over the war before the 60s are over.
todd poeschl Not invading the Soviet Union would've helped their cause. All those men, guns, and other equipment would've helped them greatly in the west.
dimapez Germany is slowly losing the war as their military strength is being sapped by non-stop fighting against the Soviets who have American support. Though the German government goes to great lengths to cover this up.
360Nomad Why are you speaking in present tense?
Question: Why don't you use Polandballs to represent Countries and their citizens? Im pretty sure you know they exist, but why do you not use them?
Paladin Luke I don't want to be "that polandball channel", and I don't want the Polandball community to be angry as I use the characters for my own needs.
Polandball inspired them though, I'm never denying that
AlternateHistoryHub Intresting. I see your reasoning behind it, and I like the fact that you wanted to be original. Even though the Polandball community usually treats the fan made videos like they do not exist, I can also see why they would piss some people off. Anyways, thanks for responding.
AlternateHistoryHub hey I have a suggestion for you,What would happen if anime was never popular outside of japan? (from an anime nerd)
joseph olsen meh I think that would create tention in the comment of that video and I don't think he would want that
joseph olsen if anime was never popular outside japan it would just have a smaller audience, that's about it.
We should legalize drugs while keeping the social pressure against them, and help those with addictions.
Maybe things like marijuana, since it does not affect or overdose, but certainly not opioids like cocaine or heroin. You can overdose those very easily.
However, marijuana and such should probably be legal, with social pressure against them, like smoking.
Legalize and tax it. The tax revenue could easily go to assist with treatment.
Max Powers Listen to this solution:
Make it illegal, but don't make it illegal to posses. Instead, send them to clinics where if they are addicted to, say, heroin, they get deluxe heroin and clean needles to inject themselves with, and get showers, and counseling. That's what Switzerland did, and it worked very well.
Baldemoto No need to keep drugs illegal. Government should sell them, and provide help. Thus eliminating drug trafficking.
Max Powers One solution would be to decriminalize most if not all drugs so it's legal to posses or use but if you sell it, it's illegal and like alcohol if you're driving impaired or doing something wrong you go to rehab and get the help you need instead of being incarcerated and being "thrown in the trash" where real criminals belong
so how is the "war on drugs" not the same but larger scale version of prohibition? both where a bad idea both were not thought through, both failed*sigh* look what you've done...
I just want to say to I love your videos man keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!
Zachary James Thanks!
Legalize drugs already. People who want drugs are just gonna get drugs anyway.
HighSkiez I guess we should legalize murder as well huh
MrSuperchacho77
That's false equivalency. You're comparing an act that violates the rights of another human being to an act that people like to do for fun in their spare time.
If the guy next door to you decides to murder someone, he has harmed another human being and he is a danger to other human beings. Arresting that person would benefit the community.
If the guy next door to you decides to take some drugs after he gets home from work, is he hurting anyone else? No. Is it any of your business? No. Would locking him up benefit the community in any way? Again, no.
HighSkiez My point which I did not state is the way that the way your comment was written it seems that you thought that the reason for the legalization of drugs seemed to be that welp the dude wants them and he's probably gonna get them so we should make it legal so I used that logic in another more radical form.Either way I respect your view point so sorry if I was rude.
MrSuperchacho77
It's okay. I get you. I probably should've worded my post better
This was probably one of the most civilized disagreements and coming to an understanding conversations I've ever seen on UA-cam comments, nice work!
As Kurzgesagt / In a Nutshell has said, Europe (i think it was Switzerland specifically) took almost exactly this path, and the program appears to be highly successful. Nice to see how their "alternate path" compares with "our path", as well as how the "alternate timeline path" compares to both scenarios/contexts.
This video would likely be titled "What if the Drug War happened?"
I don't know, in that world, this scenario would seem pretty obscure. It would be like, "what if Martin Luther King killed puppies," or, "what if instead of fighting Hitler in ww2, we all just voluntarily joined in because he seemed like a nice guy?"
Very original
It would be titled something maybe like
"What if Nixons drug policies were put into effect?" Nixon was one of the main people to start the war.
What if the Arab-Israeli war of 1947-1949 never happened and the UN proposal for splitting the land under British Mandate into two states, one Arab and one Jewish, was accepted?
Yes that's a good 1
Well, I'd guess that Arab States would now be flourishing due to Israeli technology.
Bellezzasolo Or the whole conflict will just be delayed by a couple of years since what motivates this whole fiasco are the civilians of both sides stereotyping and portraying one another as "Evil".
The Glorious GeneralDerpSide The hatred is because they view the other side as infringing on their country's sovereignty.
Meeko1010100112 Thats the hatred that guides the current Israeli- Palestinian conflict.
The larger Israeli- Arab conflict is purely stereotypical and Anti- Semitic. Its whole purpose was mainly to unite all Arab countries and strengthen their ties with one another. They initially viewed the war against Israel as an effortless victory, which is why with each failed war the number of Arab participants dropped. (Well.. that and other political pressure ofcourse)
In the Uk you only get a warning for posession unless its an unreasonably large amount. after 3 warnings you'll get a short sentence as long as its only posession. in the Us you'll get a significant prison sentence
Often lifetime.
owen alioto LoL wut? Fucking cartel leaders have only gotten long sentences not life fuck outta here
@@bruhgames4175 yea there are people with life sentences for simple drug possession and not even large amounts just enough for personal use. There are people still locked up since the 80s.
And your entire life ruined and your family in shambles
Great video as always! You could have also mentioned that medical advancements would be decades ahead of where we are now, due to current regulations that prohibit scientific research on hundreds of chemicals with promising medical benefits.
Got to say one of the best UA-cam channels out there really original and always fun to watch keep it up!!!
so... stop the war on drugs?
Yup
Deconverted Man yeah, many have been asking for it's end for years.
it's a bust, it's failed, it's time to call it quits really.
Hell legalizing Marijuana would probably be the best first step, cause that decreases much of the Cartels and the Black Market's power.
Deconverted Man Its a War on Drugs and the people on drugs are winning it ~ Bill Hicks
Yes Portugal did it years ago. if you want a different perspective I would recommend reading chasing the scream
ShadowWolfRising It would fuck up all of your society. So good luck.
heyyo izz
Not Kendrick Lamar Somebody found it ding ding ding
he commented! you made my day :,)
Not Kendrick Lamar wut?
Not Kendrick Lamar I'm his girlfriend.
izzy10valentin She actually is.
What if the Germans and Austro-Hungarians didn't lose WWI? What if:
a) WWI is averted by taking proper diplomatic action before the situation became dire
b)The war happens, but instead of the Triple Entente emerging victorious, the Triple Alliance did instead?
I too have been wondering this, and it seems to me that it is the most requested video.
Here are my questions:
) is it possible that a Hitler like figure would gain power in France, to regain the nations prestige, like Hitler did?
) Would there be a WW2
) Would there be a cold war?
There are more from my part, but they could be vids on their own...
+AlternateHistoryHub
Jake let me change my name Dagger back to normal Not as Germany as the agressor, but the French are a pretty damn proud people as well. Don't you think it's possible that they would get some warmongering revanchist in power instead of the Germans?
Jake let me change my name Dagger back to normal Not nesesarly a facist, just a patroit who want, perhaps, lost land back and to regain the nations prestige.
Jake let me change my name Dagger back to normal In this case, even though their goal's would align with France's at that point in time, I like to think the US would never get involved directly in the war, similar to how they did in the real life WWII. They would, however, finance the French dictator instead of the German Kaiser (if there still is one). The only thing that would make them stop is Japan's invasion, and assuming France and Japan are allies in this scenario, it would probably make them stop permanently. The Germans wouldn't be supplied by anyone, but they would have a strong ally to their east, making an invasion from Russia difficult. As for Britain's involvement, idk, I'd assume that they would just wanna stay out of the war all together and since there is little actual land for the French to annex, how a war could break out, I don't know.
b3nzay As for Great Britain, unless there was, say, a communist revolution in France as the results of the lost war, I assume they would still honor the Entente Alliance in the event of a French aggressive war against Germany (unless it is clear that the Entente is a purely defensive alliance. I haven't actually read the treaty... xD).
Thank You AlternateHistoryHub! Hopefully someone in a position of power will take heed.
Good stuff, but there's one glaring error: the war on drugs didn't start with any kind of health concern. Nixon literally chose to criminalize drugs to crack down on the Civil Rights and anti-war movements. He couldn't come out and call his opponents illegal, but he could criminalize drugs these groups were known to use now and then, then let the lopsided enforcement by the courts separate out respectable, rich, white people "just experimenting" from poor, black and/or subversive people as the real problem.
Ooooh.What if the prohibition never ended!
well we'd be at quiet the same place, just with even more cartells. cartells that not only sell heroin and cocain but also alcol. so more crime and more insecurities and more damage to society.
Just replace the current drug war with alcohol, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk
What I learnt from this is that Pizza is classed as a drug, is illegal and warrants gun violence and jail time.
It's worth it.
Does this mean Italy is the drug capital? Hmm
+manchestersboy Well, a stereotype of Italy is the Italian Mafia. So, it's 100% true
Did some drug interdiction consulting with the US Embassy in the Bahamas and can say first hand that they were not fully vested in the effort. They seemed more interested in the perks that came with their office than actually improving their operations. This very eye opening and I’ve been very dubious about the War on Drugs ever since. Given that the prison population is exploding and that private contractors are making a mint off of the prisoners it has become a booming industry to jail people repeatedly. The war on drugs is an unmitigated disaster.
If the drug war never happened, or never got violent? Probably what you said. We'd still have problems, some new ones, but overall there would be less violence, less crime, less police brutality and government corruption, less breaking down of the family unit and the inner city communities. In other words, both liberals and conservatives would be able to see some good in it. Let's look at the states that legalized weed.
no more drug users.we must wage more war and bring in the military with tanks, hueys,c130s,paratroopers etc.
kagen lim As somebody who's been in the military and never done drugs...nah, sorry bro. Nah.
We are already in war.so why not go all out and acknowledge that the war in drugs is really a war on terror
Cauz this would ruin the states dude ;D and in the netherlands and uruguay, where the gouvernment ignore the "soft drugs" it´s peacefully :)
Its to late!! 40 years ago it began
See what I don't understand is; why is it ok for someone to be so drunk they die(BTW I don't have anything against alcohol) yet I can't eat a few mushrooms and enjoy a good harmless trip.
Raccoon because then corrupt politicians wouldn't stay in power
Becuase once you have an addicton you don't know it..stops being 'for fun' whe your nerves start to burn and 'need' it.
Zuzo's corner
That argument doesn't really hold up when other addictive substances like alcohol, tobacco or the worst offender of all, highly addictive prescription opioids are legal. OP is asking why the one addictive substance is legal, while the other illegal (which is in some cases even less addictive and dangerous, like pot)
cuz mushrooms can actually fuck up your life
@@raptorfromthe6ix833 how so? They’ve been used for thousands of years I get if you do them it may mess up your mental health but if you know how and when to use them they are generally safe I mean just like weed, lsd, and dmt no one has died from them
Why is that so many modern issues can be traced back to Reagan?
I can't stop watching these videos!
that was a pretty fair video, especially for such a controversial issue. I don't agree with everything you said, but again, you were fair and explained your points well.
great video.
Soldiers and rape victims with PTSD would be be able to get the MDMA therapy which could cure them.
Nobody would be dying from use of bath salts, synthetic cannabis, or bromo dragonfly. Why not? Because nobody would use those sub-standard imitations; they'd be using the much safer drugs which we, in our infinite wisdom, have made Schedule 1.
They should be given only with permission from doctors or psychiatrists
Terra Emotus
That would be an improvement over where we are now.
Yeah, now because of the classification of certain drugs, doctors can't even readily prescribe them. Only in very rare circumstances. I can give you an example of how bullshit drug classification screws people. My grandmother who's 98 years old, has degenerative disc disease, arthritis and the worst spine you've ever seen (her disks are basically, nothing, bone on bone) is prescribed Hydrocodone that she's been on for 20+ years, she gets 120 pills per month and needs every single bit of them and even then the pain is often so bad she stays in bed in an effort to not cause herself more pain. Recently Hydrocodone went from a Schedule 3 drug to a Schedule 2 drug, now having the same restrictions as the stronger Oxycodone and such. This means that she can't be prescribed any more than 120/month, so now she has to completely change medications in hopes of having more relief and she's so fucking scared that the new medication wont give her adequate relief, she'd rather suffer at the pain levels she's at now because at least she knows what it is and knows how bad it _can_ get. So now, instead of her simply having an extra pill to be able to take per day if she needs it, she has to completely switch to fucking 20 or 40mg pure hydrocodone or something like fucking oxycontin. Because I mean hell, the fucking morons have it all in the smae class now anyways right? This whole bullshit war on drugs and the effects it has on legitimate pain patients really pisses me off because I have to sit here and see a 98 year old frail old lady suffer even more than she needs to because of, bullshit.
"cure"
The Brit
I'm not sure what to make of you reply. I don't know if I agree, disagree, or need to think it over.
Liberals and Libertarians have been talking about this a lot recently, white Rand Paul being the only one ( I could think of) on the right speaking of how damaging it's been to the U.S and certainly specific communities.
Personally I haven't tried any illegal drug and I don't plan to ( I hate the smell of weed), but I don't think I have the right to tell another adult what they should and should not put into their body
Same. I walk through a museum in Washington, DC, and I'm like, "no thanks."
Awesome! Best one yet, keep it up bro!
maybe the war on drugs could still end and maybe we could fix its problems
If drugs war never ocurred... there wouldn't be Breaking Bad :v
yea I'm ok with that. That show kinda sucks. we probably would already have colonized space by now.. like think about that.
@@lordblazer are u high
@@ieatgold1153 Breaking bad is an overdose of fiction BS.
@@Lex-Rex Why. There might have been some exaggerations and fiction mixed in with the show, but it seemed like a realistic scenario. I think it was good, not the best show ever made, as many people claim it to be, but it was good.
What if AlternateHistoryHub Never Existed?
You would not watch this video.
That seems fine.
The CVR ViPeR Didn't understand
i love this channel, history has always been my favorite subject, almost finished earning my teaching degree in history. i always consider these kinds of things. iys awesome puttjng it in an organized speculative explanation. i just stumbled across it. i hope you keep it going!
why not legalize drugs and let natural selection do the work
damn. that's really fucking smart, I wonder why nobody else had thought of that.
Your right.. It would be less valuable and people would be "Screw it"
i never thought about it
+no horizon many have thought of this but it hasn't been able to pass through
thing is, downers such as heroin have permanent chemical hooks as well as some uppers such as meth, meaning a single ingestion, (that doesn't even need to be big enough to get you high, just to get into your blood) can make you an addict for life without even harsher chemicals to un-do it causing more addiction and damage in its wake. So, A a single instance of social pressure could ruin your life B a quick discrete undetectable slip of drugs into someones food or drink that is legally sold can ruin them
Imagine declaring war on drugs and losing
As someone who has got a DUI I know the fact that I can't get a job in my career.. I Have screwed up since considering i can't get work in what I do. I have two BA degrees but now I dig ditches and work with people who barely speak english. It is annoying. I have never "screwed up" in my life when I had a job. Yet I can never get a job cause I am a alchie. I hate that fact and I keep screwing myself considering I can' get a real job. I don't mind pounding nails. Just funny how my boss asks why I am there...
Jason Leon Damn bro
Jason Leon Some lessons are hard learned.
-Don't- do drugs kids.
***** Do drugs. That way, the Job Market will be less densely populated, and whilst poverty, crime and unemployment would go up, the chances of me getting a job also go up.
rekd biches
(I don't even live in the US.)
VintageLJ Kill teh peasants!
I nominate this is the best channel to come to when you're high and you want to think about stuff
AKA "What if the CIA didn't exist"
The good ending
The U.S. Goes Communist
What if the US fought the cartels with drone strikes like terrorist?
+cfltheman All that violence in Mexico would spill over into Texas and California.
+cfltheman It would be far less effective. Mexico's population is vastly more dense than in places like Afghanistan, and the Cartels fit into those dense populations as well as the Taliban does in less dense areas. The Cartels could only be effectively combated on the ground, unless you were willing to lay waste to entire cities. And even then, the Cartels are known for tunnels and other elaborate escape routes.
just vote trump in the election. he would be happy to bomb Mexico.
Narcos Moving Dope*Facepalms*
+Alien “The Alien” Alien
I hope you're joking because that would create more problems than fix. In fact people would want to leave the country much with how more ruined it would be, leading to more illegal immigration with people being more desperate.
The again it sounds like Trump wants to bankrupt Mexico so I don't know if he's looking to fix anything either.
Legalizing every drug that arbitrary becomes popular to appease the populace isnt a realistic option either. There really isnt a clear answer but i know for a fact the legalization of one thing will just domino effect and cause other things that become popular to become legal to use.
Then how come it's worked in Portugal. This stupid war has ruined our constitutional government.
Also, legalisation and decriminalisation are different. Drug addicts are suffering from a terrible affliction that causes them to destroy their own lives. Prison is a useless tactic to treat drug addiction...which is obvious to most...but drug users still get put in prison because society has to punish them to ease its collective conscience.
Brandon Davey You are absolutely correct. Decriminalization may actually be the middle ground, however that brings the question weather or not those already labeled as criminals because of a drug charge will have it dropped afterwards.
Nah dog. Weeds been ingrained in cultures for centuries, and has been suppressed only in the last 90 years by the western governments
Cheesythumbs My point isnt about the drug itself(although if i really was im sure it'd be an interesting discussion) its more on the lines of the full legalization of the drug and what it would pretty much say. Allowing this particular drug to become fully recreational will pretty much say "if the majority of the country's demographics agree its ok to use then we should legalize the full use of it anywhere for any arbitrary reason just to please the masses". Weather or not weed actually is a harmful hallucinations or a medical marvel is irreverent at that point.
THIS IS FUCKING BRILLIANT., I've been thinking about this for a long-time and this alternate scenario that you were talking about is I came up with while pondering it in my mind.,,.
What if Venice was still independent? A bit of some history to digg into but the results are interesting.
From the French Empire or from the Austrian Empire ?
William Fitzgerald If Venice was indipendence it many probability Italy atttack Venice for unificated the country
no Pablo Escobar, no medellin or cali cartels... OMG being Colombian i just dream about it and imagine all those families whithout fathers mothers or sons be happy in the alternate time line... our people our culture not affected by violence and drug cartels... geez what a magnificent Colombia
The drug war is basic,y trying to smother a fire using gasoline
box 8 news in the Saturday it's us attempting to put out a bomb by throwing a nuke at it I mean it worked before so it'll work again
I recommend watching Kurtzgesagt's video on the drug war, where they talk about the harm reduction hospitals in Switzerland. They give you drugs of high quality, and help you with the rehabilitation. The addicts can focus on getting a better life like that, instead of focussing on their financial problems with drugs.
Statistics show this is a very succesful way of countering the drug addictions, and for sure is a way better plan than the drug war.
The drug war is just the modern prohibition era
This is the most politically contentious AHH video I have seen, and I endorse everything you say.
What do you call the "stick figures" in your videos?
Luke Martin Those people nation things.
AlternateHistoryHub How about Popgentem?
This video is so important
“If they have drugs, hit them with that big stick I told you to carry around.”
- Teddy Roosevelt
Ok that made me laugh out loud imagining smug teddy saying that
We need a complete overhaul in drug education. Drugs aren't bad. There's nothing wrong with using drugs. The issue is responsible drug use. As long as I'm able to use a drug responsibly and still about to be a productive member of society, I should left alone.
Yeah. Use your cocaine in moderation, what could possibly go wrong?
FerraraM98 absolutely nothing. Most drug users are moderate drug users. The addicts are a minority. That's with any drug.
You have a link to stats to back yourself up?
teddybruscie Cocaine use is bad any way you spin it-even in moderation. Let me take this to an even bigger extreme. Do you think bath salts should be used in moderation?
FerraraM98 Yes, It's a proven fact about drugs for decades really, but it's only just now being accepted.
www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/many-people-use-drugs-here-s-why-most-don-t-become-addicts
What if ghost recon wildlands happened
Thank you SO much for this: helping expose this sham for what it is. Hopefully enlighten those who are unaware!!
I just found your channel today watching "what if the great lakes..." because I am in Minnesota!
Had to subscribe.
Great work!!♥️
Much love ♥️ 🕊️
Breaking bad would never have become a show
In that case, it was worth it.
@@Uzzy66 also if we had universal healthcare Breaking Bad wouldn't have happened neither
Wait, is pizza a drug?
Sean Lanfair Yeah cheese is actually a mixture of milk and cocaine.
+Sean Lanfair No, but you would go to a pizza joint in a boardwalk and say something like "ken sent me" or "joe sent me"
I would love to hear you revisit this topic now, considering the politics, and also the reveal that the War on Drugs was in fact a ploy to keep the minorities down in poverty.
***** exactly why I wonder how this video would change. This video was made before all of that was released.
No one wants to "keep the minorities down in poverty." Don't be silly.
Then what do you call the situation in Appalachia? We are literally 95% white and poor as fuck and TONS of us are on dope
PhoenixAngel429 nihilism and shitty family values
@@Kaddywompous
Ofcourse you do. It makes those slightly less poor more obedient, it makes them work harder. It's how unemployment is crucial to employers because it makes employees accept lower wages. So too do the destitute serve the keep the subsistence compliant. A harsh analysis yes, and probably not how the powerful describe it when they look in the mirror, but reality isn't always sunshine and unicorns.
Props for at least touching this topic!!!
hey hey heeeeeeyaaay
smoke weed every day!
+CaptainSkelebones I'm smoking (vaping) right now, actually. I'm drunk too.
+Parapon3ra We get it, you vape.
+Zikschive That's right, I vape. Everyone should vape, smoking is so 20th century.
+Parapon3ra You can also quit doing both of those
Parapon3ra That's not going to make me healthier.
But it's good that you said it, it just shows
what kind of person you are
How about when police catch people.with drugs they give them the option to avoid any type of consequence by snitching in their dealer.
*****
lol nice my ass. the dealer is a criminal enabling drug addiction.
*****
if you say so
+MrMetalHead1100 Thats called a plea deal
Tbf, in quite a few cases, that's a pretty dangerous move
It's not a fucking choice. Jesus, I can't believe stupid people like you actually exist. You can be the strongest man alive, and still get addicted. It's a fucking biological reaction, you fucktard.
I am offended and i feel mexican
why should you be offended? there's good and bad in any race.
+KILLERMEXICAN210 you don't get the joke do you
+Bob He tbh no can you explain?
+Bob He BTW not being rude or anything
Joke is, he switched "offended" and "Mexican" to mock the easily offended
Also, what are you, nine?
Well said!
I hate how the pc thing to call "non white" populations is "urban"
look to dutch ppl hire are some drugs legal and we use less
btw srry for the bad english i am dutch XD
Ik versta je niet xD
lol
Better look at Portugal and Ecuador
What if Israel was never created?
bballercheetahfan3 Thats horrible idea.
MasterVideoStudios I imagine the middle east will be quite different than how it is now.
bballercheetahfan3
well, then again its just a prediction.
***** Your right you know.
+bballercheetahfan3 The middle east would still be at war and there are lots of youtube pages to prove it
3:29 The red eyes and the pizza though 🤣👍
Lets do what Sweden did, "Risk reduction" where instead of arresting possessors and making drugs illegal Sweden made health centers where your can get clean less potent versions of the drugs ,and the're injection rooms, showers, and doctors. this greatly reduced all crime and violence almost completely(also the facilities are supposed to ween you off the drugs). And with people being able to get there fix they can focus on getting jobs and making their lives better. 2/3 of the people using the facilities already gotten jobs.
Where the fuck is the us gonna get money for that
yea
+UsamaBinLaden Bin Laden We apparently have money for the DEA. So end that unconstitutional alphabet agency.
What's up with the pizza? I'm not american, is pizza a metaphor or something?
The pizza means love
You don't have to be American to see that pizza is a metaphor for drugs.
Pizzas are used to make heroin (jews.)
+VimiZap the guy with pizza is high. when youre high you want pizza
+VimiZap it's a cheese pizza and everyone who takes drugs loves cheese pizza because they are immoral devil worshipers
The decline of the family in the black community was well on its way before the war on drugs. Sen. Moynihan was warning about that in the '60s. Granted the war on drugs contributed to that decline but to say that without it the inner city would be prosperous is to dismiss numerous other factors that went into play. For instance, I seriously doubt that the crack epidemic would have not occurred without the war on drugs.
Out of curiosity what were those factors because I think a lot of people miss those?
The growth of single parent households.
The rise of the Crips and the Bloods
The growth in popularity of the paradigm that says that not only are white people responsible for the injustices visited upon black people in the past but that all of our energies must be focused on that past and even the slightest bit of racism in evidence today rather than focusing on taking advantage of opportunities that currently exist
A culture that glorifies the worst aspects of inner city behavior (i.e. Thuggish behavior and hood hoes)
Disregard for education
And on and on. Much of the dysfunction that are listed and those I have in mind but did not list predate the War on Drugs.
+John Williams Those were because of drugs. The gangs only got power because drug were illegal and black males were being overepresented since the 1930s because of over policing neighborhoods for drug use.
I don't agree. Don't sell that victimhood BS to me.
John Williams Thats not victimhood thats reality.
I think its in Amsterdam where there are signs all around that say something along the lines of
"You won't be arrested for any drugs you take, but we need to know what you took and how much so that we can save your life. You will not be arrested."
In the event of someone needed medical attention.