Saw The Virgin Tour in Philadelphia at 15yrs old. Amazing!!! She did Preform Angel, Borderline and Burning Up. They were cut from the VHS release. Never released on DVD or Blu-ray. Would be awesome if The Virgin tour was released as a special edition including these performances 😊
She did perfom Angel on the Virgin Tour, it was just cut from the video with Borderline and Burning Up. The baloons on the video are actually from that performance.
I did attend The Virgin Tour on Sunday, April 21st. 1985 at The Pacific Amphitheater in Costa Mesa California. I was never the same for the better. My favorite remix from Like a Virgin is Love Don't Live Here Anymore the Mark P full on vocal mix. Church.
I'm a 90s kid. I wasn't too familiar with Madonna's earliest stuff until recently. I was really surprised how long she's been in the game. I bought Like a Virgin and her first album on cd. Not exactly what I expected, lol during her ray of light era. But I really enjoyed both on vinyl. I enjoy her first album more. But I was quite impressed with her Dress You Up and ShopbeeDoo vinyl single. Very cool songs. The last half on vinyl was good. I enjoyed this.
Such a strong and iconic album of course she would make much better albums later but its still amazing....Nile really understood her as an artist and really bought out her r&b/motown influences and almost cartoonish personality. It's highly polished and commercial but absolutely art. Great episode
once again, always grateful for this channel for sharing all the memories / perspectives of this era for those that were not there! always an enthralling watch!
This unimaginable and never repeated 'FEVER PERIOD' of 84/85 belonging to Madonna was much, much more than any calculated album roll out which is common practice now and appeared later in Madonna's career with the Sex book, the Erotica album and the film Body of Evidence. More than the album Like a Virgin this 'FEVER PERIOD' placed Madonna into myth status by standards we as a society may never see again simply from how organic the seeds were sown. No one expected Penthouse and Playboy to be releasing her early art house nudes around the monumental Live Aid performance that Madonna participated in. Already was her myth cemented that without shame she owned it and performed three songs that were not even on the Like a Virgin album although the album was still officially in its release cycle. Andy Warhol even created the Madonna: I'm not ashamed art and her origin story as the original unapologetic bitch officially arrived on earth. This was perhaps the only time Madonna wasn't in full control of her roll out and to this day it still remains her best roll out to date. Sure, we have seen beyond her control album leaks and other what nots occurring later in her career but it was this moment that had ***Greek Myth Origin Story***that few others ever witness nor are granted. Thanks Stefan, Liberty, Ben, and Tony for MLVC and all that you do. I have always wanted to comment and finally I have reason. Inside secret, I actually call this time the Madonna jacket period. We got her pyramid jacket, her Virgin Tour jacket and the Live Aid jacket. Side note, Madonna has also saved my life and I'm sure many more and I would love to see you pursue other survival stories from your MLVC fans! Keep up the great work!!
This remains my favorite M album and Over and Over is her most underrated song that should be her biggest anthem. Talk about Zeitgeist. Liberty gets it! Like a Virgin and Material Girl most definitely do not sound dated or 80’s. They are timeless classics. The only songs that sound dated on that album are Pretender (the line “like fish that got away” particularly) and Stay with that dated programmed drum machine roll down overload and poor lyrics “then we can scoodle bee bop what? The rest of the album is timeless and features her most underrated masterpiece and zeitgeist song which basically predicts and encapsulates what was to come Over and Over!! Why isn’t that song bigger I do not know. The lyrics and energy are sick. “I’m not afraid to say I hear a different beat…” come on!! Who sang about such stuff in 1984? No one! Also Angel please! Dress You Up of course I agree is magic mainly because of that virgin tour opening. Also Love Don’t Live Here Anymore was such a masterful performance. Haunting and absolutely beautiful in retrospect even though it wasn’t my favorite as a kid because her voice was too real and deep for me at the time . I went through the exact experience as Liberty buying the album for Into The Groove and being so disappointed when it wasn’t on there. The version of Into The Groove included later is Madonna’s at her most incredible. The synthesizer bass on that track is partly responsible for Madonna’s rise. By the way the reason why this is the last album where she’s not credited in all songs is because she wasn’t as powerful before duh! Not because she started writing the songs🙈. The guy in Material Girl isn’t gay, he’s hitting on her. This was when she had all these guys with hard ons around her. No gay best friend whatsoever at that point. Also Shoo Bee Doo is neither a Motown reference nor is it her calling her lover or sex that, it’s just Shoo Bee Doo like Shoop Shoop or something.
Looking at the arc of her iconic artistry, and my own Catholic background, I’ve come to view (‘84) Like A Virgin with a deeper significance in her messaging and advocacy, and the influence of her Catholic upbringing. Catholic theology is full of opposing, co-existing dogma: saint and sinner, sacred and profane, heaven and hell, angels and demons, and so on. I think she decided early on that her artistry would portray a secular, liberated, outspoken, irreverent, militant version to her namesake and original religious icon, the Madonna or the Virgin Mary, the Queen of Angels and Martyrs, who was portrayed as meek, pious, chaste and completely obedient to patriarchy (to her God the Father, her husband Joseph, and to Christ her son). The artist Madonna-in her advocacy/activism for women empowerment, minority rights and social justice-chose to be inspired by the more militant heroines in Judeo-Christian history: Judith who slew and beheaded the Assyrian general Holofernes to save the Hebrews; Esther the Jewish princess who saved her people in Persia; and St Joan of Arc who led the French army against the English during the Hundred Years’ War in the medieval period. Where her LAV versions are more sexual, lusty and erotic, her (‘89) Like A Prayer which I consider a sort of sequel to LAV, is more spiritual but still with a dose of racial justice activism, sensuality and eroticism. From the moment she came down those stairs amid a haze in her opening Virgin Tour (‘85) wearing an astral jacket, her eyes gleaming like little stars, decked with earrings and pendants of crucifixes, crosses and a rosary as necklace, with an aura radiating charisma-this secular, modern Madonna has embarked on her journey, which would come full circle 40 years later in the opening of her (2023-24) Celebration Tour when she appeared on that revolving circular stage, like earth, amidst haze and smoke as if coming through that huge overhead cosmic ring/time tunnel, after a near death experience, this time garbed in a black satin robe with crosses in embroidered sequins, wearing a halo crown of twinkling crystals-this time evoking the symbolic image of a true iconic Queen of pop music and culture. ❤ this 40th anniversary coverage of LAV.😊
I’ve never thought of it this way until listening to this but the way you discuss the characters in Over And Over and Love Don’t Live Here Anymore sorta makes you think they should be switched round in the tracklisting.
In terms of the title of "Shoo-Be-Doo" and the Motown influence, we might remember Stevie Wonder's "Shoo-Be-Doo-Be-Doo-Da-Day" (also covered by young Michael Jackson). It was a well-known musical phrase by 1984!😊
how ironic Love Madonna records and etc., I never loved Like a Virgin record., I thought it was just an OK track. Love the Blond Ambition performance though
The verse in MG is “no way “ to her little gay pal . It was also in her dressing room as they are playing a game of cards . Funny enough the black crucifix that is dangling in her ear ,she wore again at a birthday party in 89 ‘ with Warren Beatty .
Like a Virgin. The album where I fell in love with her, but looking back, I can only listen to about half of it. Virgin, Angel, Over and Over, LDLHA and Dress You Up are fire… most of the rest are skips. If I never have to hear Material Girl again I will be happy. The video is iconic, the song is trash. And then ShooBeeDoo and Pretender are just no’s for me. I feel like the GenX fans like me are usually very nostalgic for 80s Madonna. I get it… it was a peak in terms of her celebrity and sort of ubiquity in popular culture, but I don’t think she hit her creative peak era until Erotica. Everything else before it was fire hits and then a lot of questionable album tracks… for me, at any rate. I see the growth in each successive album, but Erotica was her first really cohesive album… funny that’s when she started really taking heat and being told her career was ‘over’ when really it was just the beginning of her artistic brilliance.
I was so young and clueless when I heard this album that I took "material" in Material Girl to be referring to literal fabric 🤦♂️ I won't even get into Like a "version" and Live to "towel." Towel! Wtf lol
I have a random question, with all the artists selling their catalogs, 1) does Madonna own her catalog and 2) what do we think her catalog is worth? I’m sure, she’ll never sell, but really curious what it’s worth is.😮
She told Variety some time ago about selling her catalog like other artists... "They're my songs. Ownership is everything isn't it?"... suggested there's no amount of cash large enough for her catalog to be handed off. Taking into account that Like a Prayer cannot even be used/licenced in different audiovisual media as Ryan Reynolds said and they need the permission of Madonna herself and not a record company, I think it goes without saying that she is still the owner of everything.
Loved the album. Over and Over was my least favorite. Actually they could have cut it off the track list. However, I liked the 1985 live concert version & she looked fabulous too.
Saw The Virgin Tour in Philadelphia at 15yrs old. Amazing!!! She did Preform Angel, Borderline and Burning Up. They were cut from the VHS release. Never released on DVD or Blu-ray. Would be awesome if The Virgin tour was released as a special edition including these performances 😊
She did perfom Angel on the Virgin Tour, it was just cut from the video with Borderline and Burning Up. The baloons on the video are actually from that performance.
I did attend The Virgin Tour on Sunday, April 21st. 1985 at The Pacific Amphitheater in Costa Mesa California. I was never the same for the better. My favorite remix from Like a Virgin is Love Don't Live Here Anymore the Mark P full on vocal mix. Church.
Over and Over and Dress You Up are my favorite songs from the album ♥️
I'm a 90s kid. I wasn't too familiar with Madonna's earliest stuff until recently. I was really surprised how long she's been in the game. I bought Like a Virgin and her first album on cd. Not exactly what I expected, lol during her ray of light era. But I really enjoyed both on vinyl. I enjoy her first album more. But I was quite impressed with her Dress You Up and ShopbeeDoo vinyl single. Very cool songs. The last half on vinyl was good. I enjoyed this.
Such a strong and iconic album of course she would make much better albums later but its still amazing....Nile really understood her as an artist and really bought out her r&b/motown influences and almost cartoonish personality. It's highly polished and commercial but absolutely art. Great episode
once again, always grateful for this channel for sharing all the memories / perspectives of this era for those that were not there! always an enthralling watch!
This unimaginable and never repeated 'FEVER PERIOD' of 84/85 belonging to Madonna was much, much more than any calculated album roll out which is common practice now and appeared later in Madonna's career with the Sex book, the Erotica album and the film Body of Evidence. More than the album Like a Virgin this 'FEVER PERIOD' placed Madonna into myth status by standards we as a society may never see again simply from how organic the seeds were sown. No one expected Penthouse and Playboy to be releasing her early art house nudes around the monumental Live Aid performance that Madonna participated in. Already was her myth cemented that without shame she owned it and performed three songs that were not even on the Like a Virgin album although the album was still officially in its release cycle. Andy Warhol even created the Madonna: I'm not ashamed art and her origin story as the original unapologetic bitch officially arrived on earth. This was perhaps the only time Madonna wasn't in full control of her roll out and to this day it still remains her best roll out to date. Sure, we have seen beyond her control album leaks and other what nots occurring later in her career but it was this moment that had ***Greek Myth Origin Story***that few others ever witness nor are granted. Thanks Stefan, Liberty, Ben, and Tony for MLVC and all that you do. I have always wanted to comment and finally I have reason. Inside secret, I actually call this time the Madonna jacket period. We got her pyramid jacket, her Virgin Tour jacket and the Live Aid jacket. Side note, Madonna has also saved my life and I'm sure many more and I would love to see you pursue other survival stories from your MLVC fans! Keep up the great work!!
I love The First Album and Like A Virgin from start to finish and listen to all the songs
This remains my favorite M album and Over and Over is her most underrated song that should be her biggest anthem. Talk about Zeitgeist. Liberty gets it!
Like a Virgin and Material Girl most definitely do not sound dated or 80’s.
They are timeless classics.
The only songs that sound dated on that album are Pretender (the line “like fish that got away” particularly) and Stay with that dated programmed drum machine roll down overload and poor lyrics “then we can scoodle bee bop what?
The rest of the album is timeless and features her most underrated masterpiece and zeitgeist song which basically predicts and encapsulates what was to come Over and Over!! Why isn’t that song bigger I do not know. The lyrics and energy are sick. “I’m not afraid to say I hear a different beat…” come on!! Who sang about such stuff in 1984? No one!
Also Angel please! Dress You Up of course I agree is magic mainly because of that virgin tour opening.
Also Love Don’t Live Here Anymore was such a masterful performance. Haunting and absolutely beautiful in retrospect even though it wasn’t my favorite as a kid because her voice was too real and deep for me at the time .
I went through the exact experience as Liberty buying the album for Into The Groove and being so disappointed when it wasn’t on there.
The version of Into The Groove included later is Madonna’s at her most incredible.
The synthesizer bass on that track is partly responsible for Madonna’s rise.
By the way the reason why this is the last album where she’s not credited in all songs is because she wasn’t as powerful before duh! Not because she started writing the songs🙈.
The guy in Material Girl isn’t gay, he’s hitting on her. This was when she had all these guys with hard ons around her. No gay best friend whatsoever at that point.
Also Shoo Bee Doo is neither a Motown reference nor is it her calling her lover or sex that, it’s just Shoo Bee Doo like Shoop Shoop or something.
Looking at the arc of her iconic artistry, and my own Catholic background, I’ve come to view (‘84) Like A Virgin with a deeper significance in her messaging and advocacy, and the influence of her Catholic upbringing. Catholic theology is full of opposing, co-existing dogma: saint and sinner, sacred and profane, heaven and hell, angels and demons, and so on. I think she decided early on that her artistry would portray a secular, liberated, outspoken, irreverent, militant version to her namesake and original religious icon, the Madonna or the Virgin Mary, the Queen of Angels and Martyrs, who was portrayed as meek, pious, chaste and completely obedient to patriarchy (to her God the Father, her husband Joseph, and to Christ her son). The artist Madonna-in her advocacy/activism for women empowerment, minority rights and social justice-chose to be inspired by the more militant heroines in Judeo-Christian history: Judith who slew and beheaded the Assyrian general Holofernes to save the Hebrews; Esther the Jewish princess who saved her people in Persia; and St Joan of Arc who led the French army against the English during the Hundred Years’ War in the medieval period.
Where her LAV versions are more sexual, lusty and erotic, her (‘89) Like A Prayer which I consider a sort of sequel to LAV, is more spiritual but still with a dose of racial justice activism, sensuality and eroticism.
From the moment she came down those stairs amid a haze in her opening Virgin Tour (‘85) wearing an astral jacket, her eyes gleaming like little stars, decked with earrings and pendants of crucifixes, crosses and a rosary as necklace, with an aura radiating charisma-this secular, modern Madonna has embarked on her journey, which would come full circle 40 years later in the opening of her (2023-24) Celebration Tour when she appeared on that revolving circular stage, like earth, amidst haze and smoke as if coming through that huge overhead cosmic ring/time tunnel, after a near death experience, this time garbed in a black satin robe with crosses in embroidered sequins, wearing a halo crown of twinkling crystals-this time evoking the symbolic image of a true iconic Queen of pop music and culture. ❤ this 40th anniversary coverage of LAV.😊
Angel was my first love ❤❤❤ the song that made me a fan. Then when The Look of Love came along I became an air conditioner
I wish Gambler and Crazy For You would have been included on Like A Virgin. Also, was Lies In Your Eyes sung by Madonna?
In the UK it was reissued with into the groove
Liberty’s hair is giving “Madonna and Guy Ritchie arriving for the screening of “I am because we are” in Cannes 2008” vibes. Look it up! ☕️
I’ve never thought of it this way until listening to this but the way you discuss the characters in Over And Over and Love Don’t Live Here Anymore sorta makes you think they should be switched round in the tracklisting.
In terms of the title of "Shoo-Be-Doo" and the Motown influence, we might remember Stevie Wonder's "Shoo-Be-Doo-Be-Doo-Da-Day" (also covered by young Michael Jackson). It was a well-known musical phrase by 1984!😊
Let Liberty speak! It seemed she had way more to say. Stefan is the dominant speaker.
When this song came out it was so scandalous at the time. Nowadays it seems downright innocent.
how ironic Love Madonna records and etc., I never loved Like a Virgin record., I thought it was just an OK track. Love the Blond Ambition performance though
Angel was great... but she sang it in the wrong key on the album (too low)
Which is why she hardly ever performed it Live....
The verse in MG is “no way “ to her little gay pal . It was also in her dressing room as they are playing a game of cards . Funny enough the black crucifix that is dangling in her ear ,she wore again at a birthday party in 89 ‘ with Warren Beatty .
Like a Virgin. The album where I fell in love with her, but looking back, I can only listen to about half of it. Virgin, Angel, Over and Over, LDLHA and Dress You Up are fire… most of the rest are skips. If I never have to hear Material Girl again I will be happy. The video is iconic, the song is trash. And then ShooBeeDoo and Pretender are just no’s for me. I feel like the GenX fans like me are usually very nostalgic for 80s Madonna. I get it… it was a peak in terms of her celebrity and sort of ubiquity in popular culture, but I don’t think she hit her creative peak era until Erotica. Everything else before it was fire hits and then a lot of questionable album tracks… for me, at any rate. I see the growth in each successive album, but Erotica was her first really cohesive album… funny that’s when she started really taking heat and being told her career was ‘over’ when really it was just the beginning of her artistic brilliance.
Where did you get the info that Nile Rodgers worked with Rose Royce?
I was so young and clueless when I heard this album that I took "material" in Material Girl to be referring to literal fabric 🤦♂️ I won't even get into Like a "version" and Live to "towel." Towel! Wtf lol
I have a random question, with all the artists selling their catalogs, 1) does Madonna own her catalog and 2) what do we think her catalog is worth? I’m sure, she’ll never sell, but really curious what it’s worth is.😮
She told Variety some time ago about selling her catalog like other artists... "They're my songs. Ownership is everything isn't it?"... suggested there's no amount of cash large enough for her catalog to be handed off.
Taking into account that Like a Prayer cannot even be used/licenced in different audiovisual media as Ryan Reynolds said and they need the permission of Madonna herself and not a record company, I think it goes without saying that she is still the owner of everything.
I preferred the Blond Ambition version of Like A Virgin. The original version and the MDNA virgin were basic in my opinion.
Loved the album. Over and Over was my least favorite. Actually they could have cut it off the track list. However, I liked the 1985 live concert version & she looked fabulous too.
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