let's not forget about that time troy got sad because "he couldn't give abed babies" or when they found a baby in the study room and immediately started discussing how they were gonna raise them together. literally married
This right here is the one reason why i dont like this video ahbed isnt the bisexual one troy is. He didnt even mention the one most obvious reason troy loves women bc obviously weve seen that but he also like buttstuff on himself so this leads us to one of two things hes a straight man that loves being pegged or hes bi
@@MarioSolisxD yeah he mentions liking butt stuff alot. And in contexts when hes like "you already know I like butt stuff" so I very much think it was hinting at bisexuality.
That whole 'Male friendship isn't always gay' argument sucks, Abed and Jeff literally have one of the closest relationships on the show and yet Troy and Abed have such a deeper bond that is easily seen as romantic-
@@treasuremage7546 i dont really think they would work well together cuz jeff can be very mean to abed especially in s4 onwards. and i always felt that both can be controlling and manipulative
@@lwiksnnam3017 @leya chang I said it would be believable, not that it would be healthy. I'd just totally buy the argument that Jeff is often a dick to Abed specifically because it's cuts deep into his narcissistic cool as ice persona to feel attracted to anyone that isn't a supermodel.
You didn’t even mention the fact that in the darkest timeline, where everything is the worst, their ‘friendship’ is still the same they were also fully prepared to adopt a child together
Not like there were any feelings involved, nooo Troy was always a straight guy and I think Britta like Annie are bisexual. But Britta and Troy loved each other, so stfu
Also remember when Annie and Abed were looking for someone to fill Troy's place in their apartment and while Annie proposed her brother Abed brought up his gf. Basically they implied Annie saw Troy as a brother and abed as a romantic interest
@Artem Zagaynov while I don't agree with what OG replied with (because I am aware of the majority that heterosexuality represents) it is still hypocritical to tell gay people to not assume someone's sexuality in a piece of media and then immediately assume they are straight, especially with cases where they keep making homosexual references or have them in homoerotic scenes, which is what happens with most (cannot say all bc I haven't seen them all) of the couples in the videos that AreTheyGay makes
@Patient Devil nah, abed's not simple and wouldn't make a joke like that. He's actually somewhat mature about race. Unlike some people. He understands that stuff race couldn't create anything that's worth looking at. Or laughing at.
my dad thought they were dating the whole time we were watching the show. He is a semi conservative christian who was raised in the deep south. he is incredibly oblivious when it comes to gay stuff, and he thought they were a couple the whole time (and shipped them). I take that as proof enough
Our parents are surprisingly adept at romantic undertones in film and shows. A lot of people look for erotic subtext, while here they are already accepting the romantic subtext.
I read an essay on AO3 on why Britta's and Troy's relationship actually just reenforces the fact that Troy is gay and oh my god it's so good and made so much sense
@@gavin9956 yeahh, is also kind of funny knowing that Jeff is the one that's based on Harmon, i think there's an interview where he says that at the end he related more to Abed and that's why his arc is more developed
In my head, when Troy comes back, he realizes he loved Abed in a gay way and he still does. Abed has always known this, but he was content with their previous unofficial love because according to his calculations it would be best if he were to let Troy figure out his love for him on his own and not to tell him. However, it doesn't go back to normal immediately; (obviously) they've both changed and its been a long time since they saw eachother, but they do find that bond again and 3 years later they are married.
@@abigailsalmanac it was like the end credits of an episode i don't remember which but theres a baby on the study room table and they're like guess we'll raise it and abed is like guess ill get a job to support us
In season 3 the episode where they play the video game for Pierce's inheritance Abed goes off with Hilda and he tells the group Hilda can make babies for him Troy literally says "And I can't" with jealousy and then jus defeat. There is no heterosexual explanation.
Writers: Ha! Look at them, THEY ARE GAYYYYYY Audience: Huh...maybe they are gay. Writers: How dare you?? Can’t men just be close friends anymore??? Is everything about sex to you weirdos?!? I hate that writers can make endless gay jokes when two men have a close friendship and then people have the audacity to say WE reinforce the notion that two straight guys can’t be close friends.
right?? that's what still pisses me off about bbc sherlock, they throw in like 2 gay jokes per episode and then have the AUDACITY to make fun of their fans for thinking they might be gay. like, what the fuck?
It’s just like watching a movie, and a point of the plot is about them fazing homophobia. But they are not gay, so it’s just like, welp, I got homophobia but I didn’t even get homosexuals. And that is truly sad.
@@jerry4125 i think they mean that people seem to not care about other genuine and great platonic relationships between two guys unless someone interprets it as romantic
not to be negative, but 'neurodivergent' is just such a dumb term to me. we can agree that Abed probably has Aspergers, no need to slap a sugarcoated label onto him.
@@calzoneyyy if you think so, then fine. i still use it, as an aspie. there‘s nothing wrong with the term and everyone i know still uses it. like 'homosexual', some people use it negatively but that doesn‘t make it outdated either.
Britta and Troy’s relationship really resonated with me because it reminded me of two relationships I had with men that ended in the bittersweet realization that we didn’t have chemistry and we were meant to just be friends.... I’m a lesbian.
I love how everyone rushes to point out Rachel as if she isn't the character Abed had met while Troy was dating Britta, then seemingly forgot about untill after Troy had left....
21:50 this actually bothers me even more considering on the paintball episode abed is playing a character (he says it himself, he'll be the han solo character that by default should be Jeff's, you know? Annie's endgame love interest?) while on the zombie episode he's doing it for REAL
ohhhhhh SHIT you’re right!!! wow. so if abed hadn’t called dibs on the role that jeff would usually fill, on an alternate timeline (if i may) that could’ve been jeff and annie, a more expected pairing. DAMN
Yeah, we've seen time and time again that Abed sticks to the bit 100% when he's reenacting film scenes. Notably, he turns down Annie's flirting once he's not playing Han anymore, since he's Abed again and isn't actually interested in kissing Annie outside of the movie scene context.
I’m never going to get over when Troy in the Freaky Friday episode, acting like Abed, starts stimming with his hands. We rarely see Abed stimming but that means that he openly stims around Troy 🥺. Also, their handshake comes from a video Troy saw but Abed thought Troy created it. There’s just something so wholesome to me about Troy watching a video about ‘cool things to do with your friends’ and being excited to show his new friend. I don’t know if I necessarily ship them (because I’m autistic and really struggle understanding the difference between close friends and people in a relationship) but I hope to have what they have one day :’-).
Feels right to point out that there was a comic con panel where the actor for Annie was asked who she thought Annie should end up with, and she said Britta
So much weirdness about this argument- can non-straight individuals not have friends? Can people in a romantic relationship not also be friends? Isn’t there a whole spectrum beyond just romance v. Friendship?
And while there is some merit to that argument, it’s ALWAYS used in response to people shipping two people of the same sex, to a point where it’s just homophobia.
troy saying he just wants to "watch tv with abed" during the gay party is so overlooked. movies and shows are literally abed’s love language!! come on!!
I'm so tired of this whole "can't men just have a deep platonic relationship without making it gay???" rebuttal, honey you have had these for centuries in mainstream media let us have some of this representation for ourselves too Also the implication that a deep feeling of camaraderie is not a necessary part of a romantic relationship is worrying at best lol
*Achilles and Patroclus:* um... we're gay and we've also existed for centuries tho. *Historians:* no ur not ur just good friends *Achilles and Patroclus:* 👁👄👁
It scares me that so many people think being friends with your significant other is a bad thing. Bro what do yall do together. If you don't want to hang out with your lover why would you date them
Even Pierce, I'm not sure. Between the hint at romance with Abed in the Sara Bareilles episode (it's a joke, but still) and his very intolerant father he still hasn't break from (in the gay episode even), and the fact that he tries many times to put himself between Troy and Abed (the stolen handshake, the jealousy in the housewarming episode) there's material for a theory there. And then he dies, he stirs up some shit in the study group... and at last breaks Abed and Troy for good. Yeah...
@@medealkemy wait you're absolutely right. i know the creators also intentionally draw a lot of similarities between Jeff and what we would expect young Pierce to act like, the only difference is that Jeff is a lot more empathetic and by season 2/3 he kind of breaks out of the "straight male protagonist" archetype. so it would make sense if Pierce was "y'know" because in my opinion Jeff is so obviously not straight (i could write an essay about it as a gay person with a bad relationship with my parents who deflects and uses sarcasm as a coping mechanism) i was kind of disappointed because his character grows so much throughout the seasons. also like how the video talks about reclaiming the Trobed gay jokes, they could do the same with Jeff since he's literally the but of every other gay joke on the show (which are usually made by Pierce, go figure). i also hated the "gay guys go after straight guys" trope they were so obviously implying with the dean and Jeff... but that's another story.
I would love the community movie to have The Dean fully admit his crush on Jeff in an emotionally honest non-joky manner and have jeff just politely turn him down so that they move and become a healthy platonic thing and not The Dean being a predatory person in a position of power over Jeff his employee. You could get a good scene out of it and have their relationship evolve. Jeff and the Dean being friends could be fun to watch, they both have a flair for fashion and they both are desperate for approval, and they both love and see the value of Greendale more than any other character. Also, this has nothing to do with Jeff being or not being the, it has to do with him clearly not being into Dean and not cool with his unwanted advances.
Well i mean the dean did think that jeff was in love with him due to jeff giving him the wrong number and that japanese kid that would later become the leader of the yakuza
so we aren’t going to talk about how cool Abed’s bisexual sweater is (the green one with the stripes) it’s the one he wore in the sixth season fifth episode for reference
So wild how straight people read heterosexuality into everything?? The idea that Troy and Abed (or Britta and Annie) are "clearly straight" makes no sense to me. Am I even watching the same show as these people?
i mean i agree but people also read homosexuality into everything. like i wouldn't say britta, annie, or really any of them are 100% straight or gay. like you don't _know_ know, because there's not much romantic subtext for any of them. but people call homosexuality on feminine/emotional men and shit and thats just kinda toxic. i get it if you wanna hc someone as gay for comfort, but saying that they definitely are gay just bc theyre close with each other is not great. their relationship is purely platonic, as far as we can tell. thats it.
@@burdlo4687 OK my original reply to this has entirely disappeared?? But to clarify: 1. I think straight readings of these characters are totally valid. My main issue is when people ignore textual evidence and pretend it doesn't exist because it doesn't fit with their (heterosexual) interpretation. 2. I definitely don't think Troy and Abed (or anyone in the show) is gay just because they're close (or because they have feminine traits). I think they *might* be gay because their relationship is heavily coded as romantic. As explained in the video.
@@theladynim2 it isn't coded as romantic, though. the point of their friendship is that they're extremely close. they say they love each other, hug each other, and jokingly plan their life out years in the future. that isn't romantic coding. romantic coding is different. it's deeper, and it's _romantic._ like. for some reason 2 friends who are close are considered to be coded as romantic? i've had a few friends who i loved and cuddled with, but they were just friends. that was never romantic, and it probably seemed romantic to close minded people with too many expectations, but it was not romantic unless it became romantic, which is very different. you can ship them and want them to be together, but their relationship is not "coded" as romantic. johnlock was coded as romantic (im still pissed about that one) because everyone assumed they were dating throughout the show, and it's implied that you'd want them to date. trobed isn't "coded" as romantic. that doesn't mean you can't ship them, but the coding isn't there.
@@burdlo4687 Did you... Watch the video? Cos I'm not gonna re-explain the whole thing to you. But to put it as plainly as possible the writers *intentionally* draw parallels between Troy and Abed's relationship and explicitly romantic relationships over and over and over again. Their scenes are full of romantic tropes. They frequently make references to romantic films and TV shows when talking about their friendship. All that is romantic coding. Now does it mean that the writers thought of them as gay? No probably not. It's done for comedic effect mostly. The show absolutely wants you to see them as just two very close friends and that's totally valid. That's canon. But to say there's no hint of potential romance even vaguely implied there? it's just straight up not true.
I sorta think that Abed wouldn’t care about someone’s gender, as long as he can bond with them over his special interests. I think he’d be at least pan, of course bi works to, but pan is my headcanon
honestly i head cannon him as pan and asexual. he doesn’t really care about sex or gender he just wants a personal bond and someone to share everything he loves with.
i need someone to address the fact that jeff is most definitely a repressed/closeted bisexual because i am sick and tired of fighting this war alone. that man is NOT straight and i will die on this hill.
Me: We have to normalize close and affectionate male friendships without romanticizing them. It's important that men are able to have close friendships like girls without their sexuality or intentions being questioned. Also me: We have to normalize functional homosexual relationships without just putting them down as friendships.
It is entirely possible for writers to write male relationships that aren't filled with subtext or gay jokes that make people feel inclined to view those relationships as romantic. That isn't out of nowhere lol, queer people are not necessarily just reading romance out of thin air (especially when a lot of people see it - sometimes it's a lesser known pairing that people headcanon, that's different). It's possible to write close male friendships that have overt affection and care, without constant gay jokes or subtext but it seems rare for writers to do that (and the reason is homophobic gay jokes and queer baiting probably lol). Also, I don't think people making assumptions about a straight man's sexuality because of how close he is to his friend is really as harmful as people make it sound. Like yeah if it's done in an invasive and constant way, that's bad. But if two men have a close friendship that is somewhat ambiguous I don't see the harm in that friendship being occasionally interpreted as potentially romantic ( _especially_ with fictional characters), like romance and friendship are both valid interpretations and also constantly happen to male-female friendships in the same situation. Yet no one is complaining when a friendship between a man and woman is interpreted by some people as potentially romantic lol. Someone thinking you or some situation you're in is gay when in actuality it isn't is not any where near as harmful as people make it seem and men are less likely to see it as a threat unless they have some internalised homophobia that relks them being gay is bad and is it is inherently awful for people to think you are gay. The normalisation of non-sexual non-romantic affection, of friendship, is important. But to me that should start first and foremost with m/f relationships and friendships, because straight romance is already heavily represented in the media. This is one of the reasons it sometimes comes across as bad faith when people criticize queer pairings like Troy and Abed in defense of 'male friendships because they rarely seem to care about representation of friendship unless potential mlm couples are brought up lol. Like where is that energy with m/f friendships and m/m friendships at any other point in time?
@Rocknalldatime99 I'm a queer writer myself (also on the spectrum) who also heavily values m/f platonic relationships. You're preaching to the choir and I'm confused where this is coming from unless you're simply adding onto my original brief statement
Make a video on why annie is sapphic !! (Only showing interest in men that are unavailable, seemingly uncomfortable with actual romantic confrontation with men, tried to kiss britta, softened her expression when picturing dating britta, there’s quite a lot implying she’s a lesbian with internalized homophobia lol)
Troy and britta were so bad! Maybe it was cuz of the gas leak year but srsly they completely changed troys character. He didnt care about brittas feelings at all in the relationship yet b4 that troy and britta were such good friends ( like the dance episode)
imo their pairing was well thought but poorly written (mainly due to the gas leak). There is a good video out there that explains their relationship (is called "A Defence of Troy & Britta")
I kinda loved their break up. But not because I hated them together so much, I just liked the way they handled it, showing platonic love is still very important.
ok so fun fact: donald glover and danny pudi improvised it! yep that epic and emotional love confession was completely improvised!! in s2 DVD commentary when the scene came up donald mentioned that to him and danny quoting probably the most well know and iconic romantic scenes not just in star wars but in all film didnt feel forced or weird ,, it felt right to them so they had to do the confession. OH ALSO FUN DETAIL THAT MAKES ME WANNA RIP OUT MY HAIR /hj in the two in season 2 where Troy and Abed in the morning end card where star burns/garrett and rich/jeff are their "guests" a yellow sign with big red letters reads "DUMP TROY MARRY ME" can be seen in the backgroud being held by one of the extras.
So I miss heard someone one day. They said they had Jet lag. I heard Het-lag, I started laughing then immediately adopted ther term for that award time before I knew I was Queer. You were never straight you just had a bad case of Het-lag.
love the zoom class framing! v fun. also it's nice to see a ship between characters of color! i feel like fandom tends to focus on white characters (and show creators/writers/directors tend to center white characters, which doesnt help), so it's a nice change to talk abt a ship with zero white people
Ehh Annie and Troy are very one sided and Abed and Annie is slightly one sided. Abed only likes Annie when he’s in character and Troy just sees her as a friend (said in the shoe several times)
this has probably already been said, but also there is more reason to think that troy and abeds “i love you” moment is a genuine confession, bc during abed and annie’s moment abed was playing a character. during the scene with troy that was just abed being abed. but with annie he was playing han.
I get the objections regarding to them having a sexual relationship. But them having a romantic relationship? Very possible. I think it started as a gay joke but it just got out of control in the writers room of the show. Not my fault their homophobia ended up making the characters a little gay.
The whole cant guys just be friends argument pisses me off because those same people would want them to be in a relationship if they were a boy and a girl.
i mean the jeff/annie thing started when annie was 18, troy was already in his 20s and so more "adult" when he and britta started to be a thing. but yea its not a good pairing.
i was watching community and my dad had only seen like a couple episodes and there was one where i guess troy was attracted to some girl and my dad was like visibly confused he was like "i thought he was gay" and i was like yeah
"It's a friend you've known so well, and for so long you just let it be with you, and it needs to be okay for it to have a bad day or phone in a day, and it needs to be okay for it to get on a boat with LeVar Burton and never come back. Because eventually, it all will." Abed talking about the two loves of his life.
yup! it’s canon that he is. :) have you seen the show? if not, i recommend. abed is my favorite neurodivergent and autistic representation, i’ve never seen a character who resonated with me more.
Yeah, it says it a few times, it helps, I’m on the spectrum and he’s one of the best portrayals of autism, a 2009 sitcom character is one of the best portrayals of autism. People really don’t know how to portray us.
I always got the feeling that Abed is fully aware that the two of them are in love, but he also enjoys their friendship and so he is alright waiting as long as he needs to for Troy to realize it himself
The moment that made me cry more than any other moment on Television was the episode when Troy left, and I only watched after YEARS of putting it off because of how upset I was by the idea of Troy leaving Abed. It's the only fictional relationship I can think of that I've felt that strongly about.
My husband showed me community towards the middle of the pandemic as I had never watched it before and let’s say I pretty much never stopped watching it, I just keep watching it over and over again starting it from my favorite episodes. Last night my husband said “we’re not watching community let’s watch something else” and I felt my heart break
I tend to be completely oblivious when it comes to romance and chemistry between two characters (including male and female) and even I ship Troy and Abed
May I also bring up how in season 1 episode 14 Abed gets on stage and does his own tap dance routine by himself. I think that ties into him being comfortable with himself and maybe even his sexuality?? Idk I just thought of that
one big scene i think would have been worth mentioning was during abed’s birthday diner with jeff, season 2 episode 18, abed says that he created character for himself “chad” and how as chad he experienced “my first true love falling for my best friend”.
the best trobed moments: bunkbeds freaky friday kickpuncher remake the pillow fight resolution troys return from the ACR school everything with evil troy and evil abed
I love whole "oh guys can be friends" comments. Like... as if all the movies around are literally filled with open gay couples and now people saw one questionable couple and cry in despair: "Oh, please, please give us at least one pair of friends. There so much gay couples around! Give us a little diversity!" All films full of male friends. Nothing bad if one most obliviously romantic pair would be gay not just friends.
on a slightly different note, despite the weird preditory and stereotypy stuff with the dean, his character arc always felt most similar to the way i viewed my own queerness. sorta amorphous, not easy to label, and tied up in kink. that's something ive never seen on screen before or since, certainly not from a character that becomes really sympathetic and fairly 3 dimensional.
I would recommend you watch it. It can be a tad insensitive at times and it gets off on a rough foot in season one but late season one and 2&3 it is pure found family goodness and shenanigans. 5&6 are pretty good as well but skip four. We need to recruit enough people to get #sixseasonsandamovie
@@georgevelis4651 I sort of meant don't judge the show by season 4 and keep going. It does have some good episodes(notably the thanksgiving one and the freaky friday spoof). It just isn't Community, y'know?
You should watch it, season one kinda sucks and you'll hate all the characters except for Abed (from my experience) but season 2 &3 are really really nice
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Abed: "She can make babies for me."
Troy: "AND I CAN'T?" * with sudden sadness * "And I can't..."
THAT PART
This is the most canon “not canon” ship ever.
they literally gave us the ship name IN the show like I-
@@hopelessly.lavenderly wait where
I think that might have been Destiel but yeah close second
Sorry bestie but johnlock and destiel have those crowns
Can’t believe y’all are forgetting about tiny Roman and cowboy dudes
let's not forget about that time troy got sad because "he couldn't give abed babies" or when they found a baby in the study room and immediately started discussing how they were gonna raise them together. literally married
oh my god yes during the game and them just almost stealing a baby and i think troy starting to say he will stay at home for it
“She can give me babies”
“Oh and I can’t?! ...I can’t...”
i was on the ‘why cant two guys just be close friends’ train until that moment
This right here is the one reason why i dont like this video ahbed isnt the bisexual one troy is. He didnt even mention the one most obvious reason troy loves women bc obviously weve seen that but he also like buttstuff on himself so this leads us to one of two things hes a straight man that loves being pegged or hes bi
@@MarioSolisxD yeah he mentions liking butt stuff alot. And in contexts when hes like "you already know I like butt stuff" so I very much think it was hinting at bisexuality.
That whole 'Male friendship isn't always gay' argument sucks, Abed and Jeff literally have one of the closest relationships on the show and yet Troy and Abed have such a deeper bond that is easily seen as romantic-
Ikr a better example of male friendship would be jeff and abed or ian duncan and jeff
@@lwiksnnam3017 Jeff and Abed is a much more believable couple.
@@treasuremage7546 i dont really think they would work well together cuz jeff can be very mean to abed especially in s4 onwards. and i always felt that both can be controlling and manipulative
@@lwiksnnam3017 @leya chang I said it would be believable, not that it would be healthy. I'd just totally buy the argument that Jeff is often a dick to Abed specifically because it's cuts deep into his narcissistic cool as ice persona to feel attracted to anyone that isn't a supermodel.
the show HAS healthy male friendships in jeff and abed and jeff and troy, troy and abed are a couple
You didn’t even mention the fact that in the darkest timeline, where everything is the worst, their ‘friendship’ is still the same they were also fully prepared to adopt a child together
Oh yeah, even though they had REALLY different views they’re still friends :)
abed thought that not even in the worst of scenarios troy would ever leave him. i’m sobbing
brittas and troys relationship feels like the lesbian and the gay guy started dating so no one suspects a thing
....i was literally thinking that too omg
Not like there were any feelings involved, nooo
Troy was always a straight guy and I think Britta like Annie are bisexual.
But Britta and Troy loved each other, so stfu
@@brrlego5245 people are just expressing their own interpretations of fictional characters, no need to get hostile lol
Sounds like my first relationship. We were both in very strong denial. Both are now very happy with our partners, so it worked out in the end?
YES
this whole episode is him trying to explain "this is not inherently gay, but it IS in this context"
I love your John Lennon (please let me be right in the fact that it's Lennon) profile pic.
@@lemonadereviews8235 hahah yeah it is. ty!
@@toastiestfresh np, the Beatles are the greatest band ever so yeah lol
Also remember when Annie and Abed were looking for someone to fill Troy's place in their apartment and while Annie proposed her brother Abed brought up his gf. Basically they implied Annie saw Troy as a brother and abed as a romantic interest
Omg that is such a good observation
Marcia Arenas you my friend, are a genius.
oh my god you're so right
Omg I never noticed that, that’s so good.
I will kiss your brain if I was able to do that, that's genius observation
im forever agonizing between "yeah they're gay" and "finally men with close healthy friendship, not scared of their femininity"
I feel like abed and jeff or ian and jeff are the second and trobed is the first
Idk it Feels platonic to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
we have about 500 of the latter so
i always think of charles and jake from b 99
Why not both? Friends with benefits.
heterorexuals be like: don't assume their sexuality
and then proceed to assume they're straight
@Artem Zagaynov the fact that there are many people who aren't out doesn't mean that most people is straight., that's just homophobia :P
@@valery9178 most people are straight. sorry to burst your bubble
@Artem Zagaynov while I don't agree with what OG replied with (because I am aware of the majority that heterosexuality represents) it is still hypocritical to tell gay people to not assume someone's sexuality in a piece of media and then immediately assume they are straight, especially with cases where they keep making homosexual references or have them in homoerotic scenes, which is what happens with most (cannot say all bc I haven't seen them all) of the couples in the videos that AreTheyGay makes
@Artem Zagaynov oh ok, sorry for the light hostility in my tone. Respect💪💪
@Artem Zagaynov good thing hummans are more complicated than birds and our biology doesn't dictate shit about how we need to act
im ready to watch 47 minutes of this when i know the answer's yes
Same
Lol yeah
same
I didn't even realize it was 47 mins long
Oh shit I didn't realize it's 47 minutes long. It's 2am.
Annie: Hector The Well-endowed? Ew Abed!
Abed: I wrote that one with Troy in mind
Shirley: Yeah. I'll bet you did
Uh that’s kinda sugar gay dude 👀
@Patient Devil nah, abed's not simple and wouldn't make a joke like that. He's actually somewhat mature about race. Unlike some people. He understands that stuff race couldn't create anything that's worth looking at. Or laughing at.
@@posty6530 he just knows Troy and his thinking. Most jocks are proud about their size so he wanted to make Troy happy
@Patient Devil its because hector of troy
@@Me-vn3gz bro hes talking about hector of troy. You know achilles and stuff?
If you ever started a subreddit would it be called r/theygay
@celine Why thank you! All I make are danganronpa videos so be warned
Now I'm just sad that doesn't exist
Because they always are gay.
:0
God fucking big brain
my dad thought they were dating the whole time we were watching the show. He is a semi conservative christian who was raised in the deep south. he is incredibly oblivious when it comes to gay stuff, and he thought they were a couple the whole time (and shipped them). I take that as proof enough
My mom has 0 radar when it comes to any ships even she saw this she shipped them
my mom who is a shirley personality clone thought they were gay too
Our parents are surprisingly adept at romantic undertones in film and shows. A lot of people look for erotic subtext, while here they are already accepting the romantic subtext.
my mum asked me “wait are they dating or not” when she watched like one episode 😭
I read an essay on AO3 on why Britta's and Troy's relationship actually just reenforces the fact that Troy is gay and oh my god it's so good and made so much sense
What's the link 🥺😳🥺😳🥺😳
Drop the link coward
you can't just say that and then not link the essay 😭
...link? 🥺🥺🥺 pls?
I wish i could read this
Unrelated, but abed nadir is one of the best examples of neurodivergent representation i have ever seen
Abed is PEAK autistic rep and I'm so grateful
Before doing research i really thought Danny Pudi was neurodivergent, turns out he's just a great actor lol
@@ariuuu dan harmon is autistic, which is probably why abed is such a well-written autistic character
@@gavin9956 yeahh, is also kind of funny knowing that Jeff is the one that's based on Harmon, i think there's an interview where he says that at the end he related more to Abed and that's why his arc is more developed
Yes! I’m autistic, and bisexual, he’s represents me the best out of almost every other portrayal of autism.
I literally just finished binging community and I was surprised that Troy and Abed didnt get married.
That's what the movie's for
Right
rob pfp spotted
6 seasons and a movie xD@@keltzy
In my head, when Troy comes back, he realizes he loved Abed in a gay way and he still does. Abed has always known this, but he was content with their previous unofficial love because according to his calculations it would be best if he were to let Troy figure out his love for him on his own and not to tell him. However, it doesn't go back to normal immediately; (obviously) they've both changed and its been a long time since they saw eachother, but they do find that bond again and 3 years later they are married.
catraaaaaa
@@claire12345-e yes hehe
I would kill to read this fanfiction
@@hassanalkhalaf1115 Oh right fanfictions exist. I might write one actually
y es
"maybe they were a representation of healthy male friendship" they literally were about to raise a baby together
WITH NO HESITATION TOO
Pls which episode was that?? I can’t remember 😩
@@abigailsalmanac it was like the end credits of an episode i don't remember which but theres a baby on the study room table and they're like guess we'll raise it and abed is like guess ill get a job to support us
@@emmaoof3335 oooh okay my memory of that is coming back. THANK YOU xx
In season 3 the episode where they play the video game for Pierce's inheritance Abed goes off with Hilda and he tells the group Hilda can make babies for him Troy literally says "And I can't" with jealousy and then jus defeat. There is no heterosexual explanation.
Not to mention in the end credit they find a baby and immediately discussed how they were going to take care of the baby together
That’s the scene that made me fall down this rabbit hole
Writers: Ha! Look at them, THEY ARE GAYYYYYY
Audience: Huh...maybe they are gay.
Writers: How dare you?? Can’t men just be close friends anymore??? Is everything about sex to you weirdos?!?
I hate that writers can make endless gay jokes when two men have a close friendship and then people have the audacity to say WE reinforce the notion that two straight guys can’t be close friends.
right?? that's what still pisses me off about bbc sherlock, they throw in like 2 gay jokes per episode and then have the AUDACITY to make fun of their fans for thinking they might be gay. like, what the fuck?
Sherlock oh my god
@The one and only lmaoooo i don't blame you, that's what my mind went to at first as well. it's 'british broadcasting corporation' i think!
It’s just like watching a movie, and a point of the plot is about them fazing homophobia. But they are not gay, so it’s just like, welp, I got homophobia but I didn’t even get homosexuals.
And that is truly sad.
I would love it to be gay but I really don't think they are (that's my opinion)
its very funny to me how the community writers accidentally wrote good comphet arcs for 2 of the main characters and didn't even realize
four if you include britta's comphet for troy jeff Vaughn and subway and annies comphet for jeff troy abed as han solo and don draper vaughn and rich
"you know what, community writers who were probably misguided by late-2000s low-hanging fruit? i AM that fruit." has me on the FLOOR
People only care about “guys can just be friends” when other people raise the idea of a non-platonic relationship
Tru
Yeah, because in what other situation would that apply?
@@jerry4125 i think they mean that people seem to not care about other genuine and great platonic relationships between two guys unless someone interprets it as romantic
“Ya know how sometimes you’re american?”
“That’s terrible”
KDJWNSJSNSBBS
relatable :(
i FELT that
I too am inflicted with the 'Merica
That one made me burst out laughing
@@whateverworksmate.721 Spain? The depressive films threw me though because I always think of like Dali's films being all psycdellic. lol
abed is a bisexual neurodivergent icon, like me, and i'm currently breaking down over how good this video is
not to be negative, but 'neurodivergent' is just such a dumb term to me. we can agree that Abed probably has Aspergers, no need to slap a sugarcoated label onto him.
@@rokukou aspergers is an outdated term :/
@@calzoneyyy if you think so, then fine. i still use it, as an aspie. there‘s nothing wrong with the term and everyone i know still uses it. like 'homosexual', some people use it negatively but that doesn‘t make it outdated either.
@@rokukou as a person who has Aspergers i don’t mine it
Remember: gay people wouldn't exist without straight people.
when troy and abed did the bert and ernie bit at the end of that one episode... THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOINGAESDGFHJKLIJKN.
Britta and Troy’s relationship really resonated with me because it reminded me of two relationships I had with men that ended in the bittersweet realization that we didn’t have chemistry and we were meant to just be friends.... I’m a lesbian.
I love how everyone rushes to point out Rachel as if she isn't the character Abed had met while Troy was dating Britta, then seemingly forgot about untill after Troy had left....
21:50 this actually bothers me even more considering on the paintball episode abed is playing a character (he says it himself, he'll be the han solo character that by default should be Jeff's, you know? Annie's endgame love interest?) while on the zombie episode he's doing it for REAL
ohhhhhh SHIT you’re right!!! wow. so if abed hadn’t called dibs on the role that jeff would usually fill, on an alternate timeline (if i may) that could’ve been jeff and annie, a more expected pairing. DAMN
thats a brilliant observation
Yeah, we've seen time and time again that Abed sticks to the bit 100% when he's reenacting film scenes. Notably, he turns down Annie's flirting once he's not playing Han anymore, since he's Abed again and isn't actually interested in kissing Annie outside of the movie scene context.
Has anyone else noticed that Abed is LITERALLY WEARING THE BI COLORS ON HIS JACKET in 22:46
Noooo i didn't noticed, Abed is confirmed
I kept waiting for him to point it out... ;_;
I NOTICED WHEN I WATCHED THAT EPISODE I WAS SO HAPPY
Omg i didn't realize
Well that's a freebie.
can we talk about the amount of production that was put into the intro/sponsorship 😭😭
as a bisexual middle eastern neurodivergent college student words can't describe how much i relate to abed nadir
youre literally him
I’m never going to get over when Troy in the Freaky Friday episode, acting like Abed, starts stimming with his hands. We rarely see Abed stimming but that means that he openly stims around Troy 🥺. Also, their handshake comes from a video Troy saw but Abed thought Troy created it. There’s just something so wholesome to me about Troy watching a video about ‘cool things to do with your friends’ and being excited to show his new friend. I don’t know if I necessarily ship them (because I’m autistic and really struggle understanding the difference between close friends and people in a relationship) but I hope to have what they have one day :’-).
Feels right to point out that there was a comic con panel where the actor for Annie was asked who she thought Annie should end up with, and she said Britta
“You know when you’re American?”
“That’s terrible!”
Lmao
i hate when people use the "why cant men be close friends?" excuse every time they see a M/M ship they dont like.
So much weirdness about this argument- can non-straight individuals not have friends? Can people in a romantic relationship not also be friends? Isn’t there a whole spectrum beyond just romance v. Friendship?
exactly, like you're just homophobic
people say this but over sexualize friendship of the opposite sex...
And while there is some merit to that argument, it’s ALWAYS used in response to people shipping two people of the same sex, to a point where it’s just homophobia.
it's not as if there are already hundreds of examples of male friendship in fictional media but almost nonexistent mlm rep
troy saying he just wants to "watch tv with abed" during the gay party is so overlooked. movies and shows are literally abed’s love language!! come on!!
I'm so tired of this whole "can't men just have a deep platonic relationship without making it gay???" rebuttal, honey you have had these for centuries in mainstream media let us have some of this representation for ourselves too
Also the implication that a deep feeling of camaraderie is not a necessary part of a romantic relationship is worrying at best lol
Not to mention jeff and abed or ian and jeffs friendships like wth
*Achilles and Patroclus:* um... we're gay and we've also existed for centuries tho.
*Historians:* no ur not ur just good friends
*Achilles and Patroclus:* 👁👄👁
It scares me that so many people think being friends with your significant other is a bad thing. Bro what do yall do together. If you don't want to hang out with your lover why would you date them
the entire study group (with the exception of shirley and pierce) is not straight. in this essay i will-
Even Pierce, I'm not sure. Between the hint at romance with Abed in the Sara Bareilles episode (it's a joke, but still) and his very intolerant father he still hasn't break from (in the gay episode even), and the fact that he tries many times to put himself between Troy and Abed (the stolen handshake, the jealousy in the housewarming episode) there's material for a theory there.
And then he dies, he stirs up some shit in the study group... and at last breaks Abed and Troy for good. Yeah...
@@medealkemy wait you're absolutely right. i know the creators also intentionally draw a lot of similarities between Jeff and what we would expect young Pierce to act like, the only difference is that Jeff is a lot more empathetic and by season 2/3 he kind of breaks out of the "straight male protagonist" archetype. so it would make sense if Pierce was "y'know" because in my opinion Jeff is so obviously not straight (i could write an essay about it as a gay person with a bad relationship with my parents who deflects and uses sarcasm as a coping mechanism) i was kind of disappointed because his character grows so much throughout the seasons. also like how the video talks about reclaiming the Trobed gay jokes, they could do the same with Jeff since he's literally the but of every other gay joke on the show (which are usually made by Pierce, go figure). i also hated the "gay guys go after straight guys" trope they were so obviously implying with the dean and Jeff... but that's another story.
Shirley definitely had some lesbian desires. She just was too scared to act on it
where's the essay op
@@tswizzle2020 i have an ap gov frq to write but ig i'll write a community essay instead 🙄
Community has been my special interest for years, this brings me so much joy
The "I love you""I know" scene was actually ad-libbed by Donald Glover and Danny Pudi!
I would love the community movie to have The Dean fully admit his crush on Jeff in an emotionally honest non-joky manner and have jeff just politely turn him down so that they move and become a healthy platonic thing and not The Dean being a predatory person in a position of power over Jeff his employee. You could get a good scene out of it and have their relationship evolve. Jeff and the Dean being friends could be fun to watch, they both have a flair for fashion and they both are desperate for approval, and they both love and see the value of Greendale more than any other character. Also, this has nothing to do with Jeff being or not being the, it has to do with him clearly not being into Dean and not cool with his unwanted advances.
Well i mean the dean did think that jeff was in love with him due to jeff giving him the wrong number and that japanese kid that would later become the leader of the yakuza
Tho some of the things he did was way out of line
@@lwiksnnam3017 oh definitely, I'm saying address that and evolve the dynamic
@@lwiksnnam3017 it's already a Harmonism trope to make a joke into a character arc, do that hear
i'd like this, the dean was always my least favorite because of how he hit on jeff
so we aren’t going to talk about how cool Abed’s bisexual sweater is (the green one with the stripes) it’s the one he wore in the sixth season fifth episode for reference
Its not the sixth season, troy is there unless he wears twice then please ignore my comment
@@lwiksnnam3017 he wears the same sweater 3 times lol. i looked it up but couldn’t find the exact sweatshirt
@@marl3ymarl3y86 oh ok sorry
@@lwiksnnam3017 lol don’t apologize ?
@@marl3ymarl3y86 sorry
"dani pudi cute wallpaper" we've all been there buddy
DUMBLEDORE. DID YOU GET MY TEXT? YOU DIDN'T TEXT ME BACK.
OH MY GOD UMBRIDGE STOP TEXTING ME!!!
@@graceyl.195 NOW YOU DRAG ME INTO THIS??
@@medealkemy LETS GET AN ARE THEY GAY FOR STARKID CHARACTERS
So wild how straight people read heterosexuality into everything??
The idea that Troy and Abed (or Britta and Annie) are "clearly straight" makes no sense to me. Am I even watching the same show as these people?
i mean
i agree but people also read homosexuality into everything. like i wouldn't say britta, annie, or really any of them are 100% straight or gay. like you don't _know_ know, because there's not much romantic subtext for any of them. but people call homosexuality on feminine/emotional men and shit and thats just kinda toxic. i get it if you wanna hc someone as gay for comfort, but saying that they definitely are gay just bc theyre close with each other is not great. their relationship is purely platonic, as far as we can tell. thats it.
Also the first line was entirely a joke lol
@@burdlo4687 OK my original reply to this has entirely disappeared?? But to clarify:
1. I think straight readings of these characters are totally valid. My main issue is when people ignore textual evidence and pretend it doesn't exist because it doesn't fit with their (heterosexual) interpretation.
2. I definitely don't think Troy and Abed (or anyone in the show) is gay just because they're close (or because they have feminine traits). I think they *might* be gay because their relationship is heavily coded as romantic. As explained in the video.
@@theladynim2 it isn't coded as romantic, though. the point of their friendship is that they're extremely close. they say they love each other, hug each other, and jokingly plan their life out years in the future. that isn't romantic coding. romantic coding is different. it's deeper, and it's _romantic._ like. for some reason 2 friends who are close are considered to be coded as romantic? i've had a few friends who i loved and cuddled with, but they were just friends. that was never romantic, and it probably seemed romantic to close minded people with too many expectations, but it was not romantic unless it became romantic, which is very different.
you can ship them and want them to be together, but their relationship is not "coded" as romantic. johnlock was coded as romantic (im still pissed about that one) because everyone assumed they were dating throughout the show, and it's implied that you'd want them to date. trobed isn't "coded" as romantic. that doesn't mean you can't ship them, but the coding isn't there.
@@burdlo4687 Did you... Watch the video? Cos I'm not gonna re-explain the whole thing to you.
But to put it as plainly as possible the writers *intentionally* draw parallels between Troy and Abed's relationship and explicitly romantic relationships over and over and over again. Their scenes are full of romantic tropes. They frequently make references to romantic films and TV shows when talking about their friendship. All that is romantic coding.
Now does it mean that the writers thought of them as gay? No probably not. It's done for comedic effect mostly.
The show absolutely wants you to see them as just two very close friends and that's totally valid. That's canon. But to say there's no hint of potential romance even vaguely implied there? it's just straight up not true.
"I spent a month bingeing the tv show Community, and now I know for SURE that I will never be a normal human being ever again" yeah
i started it in september of last year finished in march,, yeah no ill never be the same again
I sorta think that Abed wouldn’t care about someone’s gender, as long as he can bond with them over his special interests. I think he’d be at least pan, of course bi works to, but pan is my headcanon
honestly i head cannon him as pan and asexual. he doesn’t really care about sex or gender he just wants a personal bond and someone to share everything he loves with.
@@helpme1310 sameeeee!
@@helpme1310 YESSS!!!
@@helpme1310 yess I always get asexual vibes from him, but definitely not aromantic. Asexual pan sounds exactly like Abed
I get kinda demisexual vibes from him. Prolly biased though because I'm demi
i need someone to address the fact that jeff is most definitely a repressed/closeted bisexual because i am sick and tired of fighting this war alone. that man is NOT straight and i will die on this hill.
we will die on this hill holding each other in a thinly veiled metaphor for all of gay history
@@hellohello-ic4dh in a totally not gay way, of course!
no you're absolutely right
Wait he wasn’t confirmed to be gay? I haven’t watched the show but I could’ve sworn that Troy was gay?
@@alannat5221 because he's What
@@alannat5221 the. WHAT?!
about the “butt stuff” joke, there’s a compilation of all the jokes on youtube.
this made me realize that conventions of space and time is a big gay metaphor
You camen
Even tho the episode sucked.
in "Early 21st century romanticism" when Troy hugs Abed, the way he nuzzles his head into his shoulder is just the cutest thing ever."
Ikrrr
he does that everytime they hug
Me: We have to normalize close and affectionate male friendships without romanticizing them. It's important that men are able to have close friendships like girls without their sexuality or intentions being questioned.
Also me: We have to normalize functional homosexual relationships without just putting them down as friendships.
It is entirely possible for writers to write male relationships that aren't filled with subtext or gay jokes that make people feel inclined to view those relationships as romantic. That isn't out of nowhere lol, queer people are not necessarily just reading romance out of thin air (especially when a lot of people see it - sometimes it's a lesser known pairing that people headcanon, that's different). It's possible to write close male friendships that have overt affection and care, without constant gay jokes or subtext but it seems rare for writers to do that (and the reason is homophobic gay jokes and queer baiting probably lol).
Also, I don't think people making assumptions about a straight man's sexuality because of how close he is to his friend is really as harmful as people make it sound. Like yeah if it's done in an invasive and constant way, that's bad. But if two men have a close friendship that is somewhat ambiguous I don't see the harm in that friendship being occasionally interpreted as potentially romantic ( _especially_ with fictional characters), like romance and friendship are both valid interpretations and also constantly happen to male-female friendships in the same situation. Yet no one is complaining when a friendship between a man and woman is interpreted by some people as potentially romantic lol. Someone thinking you or some situation you're in is gay when in actuality it isn't is not any where near as harmful as people make it seem and men are less likely to see it as a threat unless they have some internalised homophobia that relks them being gay is bad and is it is inherently awful for people to think you are gay. The normalisation of non-sexual non-romantic affection, of friendship, is important. But to me that should start first and foremost with m/f relationships and friendships, because straight romance is already heavily represented in the media. This is one of the reasons it sometimes comes across as bad faith when people criticize queer pairings like Troy and Abed in defense of 'male friendships because they rarely seem to care about representation of friendship unless potential mlm couples are brought up lol. Like where is that energy with m/f friendships and m/m friendships at any other point in time?
@Rocknalldatime99 I'm a queer writer myself (also on the spectrum) who also heavily values m/f platonic relationships. You're preaching to the choir and I'm confused where this is coming from unless you're simply adding onto my original brief statement
Make a video on why annie is sapphic !! (Only showing interest in men that are unavailable, seemingly uncomfortable with actual romantic confrontation with men, tried to kiss britta, softened her expression when picturing dating britta, there’s quite a lot implying she’s a lesbian with internalized homophobia lol)
She also graphically described having sex with a girl in the DND episode LMAO
there's so much on annie... so much
The nightcore everytime we touch forcibly ripped me back to the 2000s
You forgot the number one point, *they didn’t say no homo*
They were wearing socks 🤨🤨🤨
i absolutely hate Troy and Britta as a couple, I love them as friends just not in a romantic way, Troy and Abed are soulmates
Troy and britta were so bad! Maybe it was cuz of the gas leak year but srsly they completely changed troys character. He didnt care about brittas feelings at all in the relationship yet b4 that troy and britta were such good friends ( like the dance episode)
leya chang yes! They were awesome friends!
imo their pairing was well thought but poorly written (mainly due to the gas leak). There is a good video out there that explains their relationship (is called "A Defence of Troy & Britta")
I kinda loved their break up. But not because I hated them together so much, I just liked the way they handled it, showing platonic love is still very important.
Same
i'm DEEPLY offended you didn't include the 'you may experience some side effects, like the compulsion to come back.' line
ok so fun fact: donald glover and danny pudi improvised it! yep that epic and emotional love confession was completely improvised!! in s2 DVD commentary when the scene came up donald mentioned that to him and danny quoting probably the most well know and iconic romantic scenes not just in star wars but in all film didnt feel forced or weird ,, it felt right to them so they had to do the confession.
OH ALSO FUN DETAIL THAT MAKES ME WANNA RIP OUT MY HAIR /hj
in the two in season 2 where Troy and Abed in the morning end card where star burns/garrett and rich/jeff are their "guests" a yellow sign with big red letters reads "DUMP TROY MARRY ME" can be seen in the backgroud being held by one of the extras.
The last time I was this early I still thought I was straight
Same
So I miss heard someone one day. They said they had Jet lag. I heard Het-lag, I started laughing then immediately adopted ther term for that award time before I knew I was Queer. You were never straight you just had a bad case of Het-lag.
Oh my God I love that
Remember: gay people wouldn't exist without straight people.
@@cockroachv I call bullshit because bisexuals and pansexuals exist. Checkmate homophobe!
love the zoom class framing! v fun. also it's nice to see a ship between characters of color! i feel like fandom tends to focus on white characters (and show creators/writers/directors tend to center white characters, which doesnt help), so it's a nice change to talk abt a ship with zero white people
Yep, agreed
Yes!! It’s so nice cause there’s a lack of black gay people and i think it really feeds into homophobia in the community. It’s great to see it.
Still waiting for the Trobed Movie
trobed movie trobed movie
6 seasons and a movie!!!
@@sabergachavids9260 yes!! Six seasons and a movie !
#andamovie
Two years later the community movie is going to happen!
Making Abed the "Han" is both situations when Han is probably also bisexual. I'm still hurt that we never got that Annie/Abed/Troy Thruple.
Ehh Annie and Troy are very one sided and Abed and Annie is slightly one sided. Abed only likes Annie when he’s in character and Troy just sees her as a friend (said in the shoe several times)
this has probably already been said, but also there is more reason to think that troy and abeds “i love you” moment is a genuine confession, bc during abed and annie’s moment abed was playing a character. during the scene with troy that was just abed being abed. but with annie he was playing han.
“Is destiel canon yet?” 😂
I felt that deep in my soul 😔
5 times lmaooooo
Si girl 👀
solo en español
Sí
Ah yes the traditional drink of the heterosexuals: BLOOD!
i thought it is alt-tiktokers' fav drink
I get the objections regarding to them having a sexual relationship. But them having a romantic relationship? Very possible. I think it started as a gay joke but it just got out of control in the writers room of the show. Not my fault their homophobia ended up making the characters a little gay.
The whole cant guys just be friends argument pisses me off because those same people would want them to be in a relationship if they were a boy and a girl.
Troy and Britta relationship actually made me ill. To me its just as creepy as Annie with Jeff. They have the same age differences.
the relationship between troy and britta game me very much mlm wlw solidarity more then romantic/sexual partner
Well, Britta is 9 years older than Troy, and Jeff is 16-18 years older than Annie, so both are creepy but one more than the other
I mean it 11 years less but yeah it’s still really creepy
i mean the jeff/annie thing started when annie was 18, troy was already in his 20s and so more "adult" when he and britta started to be a thing. but yea its not a good pairing.
@@lindah3409 it’s also like a 11 years less but it’s still really creepy
Writing two characters with gay tension beyond human understanding and never aknowledging their relationship makes me so fucking tired
Interview with the Vampire and What We Do in the Shadows have taught me drinking blood is not in fact straight.
i've never been attacked with so many accurate bi jokes in such a short space of time
i was watching community and my dad had only seen like a couple episodes and there was one where i guess troy was attracted to some girl and my dad was like visibly confused he was like "i thought he was gay" and i was like yeah
"It's a friend you've known so well, and for so long you just let it be with you, and it needs to be okay for it to have a bad day or phone in a day, and it needs to be okay for it to get on a boat with LeVar Burton and never come back. Because eventually, it all will." Abed talking about the two loves of his life.
Is Abed on the spectrum? Because he seems like he's nerodiverse and I love that shit
yup! it’s canon that he is. :) have you seen the show? if not, i recommend. abed is my favorite neurodivergent and autistic representation, i’ve never seen a character who resonated with me more.
That's so cool! I might end up watching the show because it seems interesting
@UCoblXRpG2rEgxe2h8uOBDYg thanks for correcting me I sometimes forget
Yeah, one of the writers discovered he was autistic through writing Abed!
Yeah, it says it a few times, it helps, I’m on the spectrum and he’s one of the best portrayals of autism, a 2009 sitcom character is one of the best portrayals of autism. People really don’t know how to portray us.
"only bisexual sitting"
me sitting upside down with legs crossed:
Wait... is this _a thing... that we do?_
HahAHa... I dO tHat
*insert vine*
@@nella_paulina most of the time I don't even realize I'm doing it
that's what she said
* obligatory ‘hey another fander!’ reply *
I've waited 80 years for this
I always got the feeling that Abed is fully aware that the two of them are in love, but he also enjoys their friendship and so he is alright waiting as long as he needs to for Troy to realize it himself
The moment that made me cry more than any other moment on Television was the episode when Troy left, and I only watched after YEARS of putting it off because of how upset I was by the idea of Troy leaving Abed. It's the only fictional relationship I can think of that I've felt that strongly about.
An AreTheyGay video on Trobed right before Christmas? We are truly blessed
"there is no standing here only awkward bisexual sitting" while listening to Emily King
that part broke me actually
The way that you like analyze everything so specifically honestly makes your videos ✨true art✨
My husband showed me community towards the middle of the pandemic as I had never watched it before and let’s say I pretty much never stopped watching it, I just keep watching it over and over again starting it from my favorite episodes. Last night my husband said “we’re not watching community let’s watch something else” and I felt my heart break
I personally see the Dean harrasing Jeff as a reflection on how Jeff treats women.
I tend to be completely oblivious when it comes to romance and chemistry between two characters (including male and female) and even I ship Troy and Abed
"Choosing between Converse and Doc Martens - you know, a bisexual moment"
Damn that's way too accurate
If somebody can name a canon case of two friends who became boyfriends I will be very impressed.
I can name several sitcom male friendships like Troy and Abed, but can't name any like how you just mentioned 😞
In Blue Flag the main character and his best friend get married at the end and it’s really cute
May I also bring up how in season 1 episode 14 Abed gets on stage and does his own tap dance routine by himself. I think that ties into him being comfortable with himself and maybe even his sexuality?? Idk I just thought of that
one big scene i think would have been worth mentioning was during abed’s birthday diner with jeff, season 2 episode 18, abed says that he created character for himself “chad” and how as chad he experienced “my first true love falling for my best friend”.
the way they’re describing troys relationship to britta is literally how thirteen yr old me described comphet to my other closeted friends
the best trobed moments:
bunkbeds
freaky friday
kickpuncher remake
the pillow fight resolution
troys return from the ACR school
everything with evil troy and evil abed
Wait a minute in the only scene we see demons it’s the dean saying gay marriage so hear me out Evil Troy and Evil Abed are gay married
i’d like to take a moment to appreciate the tabs that are open at 2:14, with special shoutouts to ‘taco bell delivery’ and ‘is destiel canon yet’
I love whole "oh guys can be friends" comments. Like... as if all the movies around are literally filled with open gay couples and now people saw one questionable couple and cry in despair: "Oh, please, please give us at least one pair of friends. There so much gay couples around! Give us a little diversity!"
All films full of male friends. Nothing bad if one most obliviously romantic pair would be gay not just friends.
"do they yearn and ache for each other?"
*cries in hannibal*
on a slightly different note, despite the weird preditory and stereotypy stuff with the dean, his character arc always felt most similar to the way i viewed my own queerness. sorta amorphous, not easy to label, and tied up in kink. that's something ive never seen on screen before or since, certainly not from a character that becomes really sympathetic and fairly 3 dimensional.
Frankies "its none of anyone's business" stance was also something i didnt see very much.
hello gay people
never watched community, but this made me go on a spree of reading fics about these two getting together bc holy hell they should have
I would recommend you watch it. It can be a tad insensitive at times and it gets off on a rough foot in season one but late season one and 2&3 it is pure found family goodness and shenanigans. 5&6 are pretty good as well but skip four. We need to recruit enough people to get #sixseasonsandamovie
Don't skip season 4. Its just 14 episodes and it's still mostly entertaining and sometimes pretty good even though it's by far the weakest season
@@georgevelis4651 I sort of meant don't judge the show by season 4 and keep going. It does have some good episodes(notably the thanksgiving one and the freaky friday spoof). It just isn't Community, y'know?
You should watch it, season one kinda sucks and you'll hate all the characters except for Abed (from my experience) but season 2 &3 are really really nice
I couldnt get past the 1st episode of season 4 bc I spoiled it for me and wasnt ready 4 the heartbreak
I LOST IT WHEN YOU STARTED READING THE FIC
All I can think while watching this video is "Larry I'm on ducktales"
We need a video on Drake and Launchpad
@@Quackervoltz Yes!
"5 hilarious seasons and the other season" I'm crying