OMG I got so shocked from her implicit bias example! I'm a woman and I've been studying to be a surgeon myself for 14 months now. Even I thought about the "surgeon" of the story as a man... It's scary!
It's not an example of implicit bias. It's simply a statistical thing. In a society where we have the majority of surgeons are men, our minds automatically picture it. When we here about a construction worker, we imagine a man.. is it bias? No.
So what ? So what if you are a woman, yet your "surgeon model" is a male? Who says it has to be a female? In my language there is no feminine version for the word "surgeon".
@@nirbhayankk6053 Incorrect. Nice try though. The reason male characteristics are elevated and female characteristics are shunned is because of capitalism. It's a feature of our predatory economic machine. The traits of compassion and cooperation don't help you with world domination and military prowess.
Revolution 2020 yeah so if women are paid less than men then it would be like capitalism and they would just hire all women. Women don’t work as much or harder than men statistically. It’s just a fact.
@@profacts6969 About 6% of the gender pay gap is unaccounted for. Hours worked and productivity was taken into account. "Men work harder" isn't "just a fact ". I'm not saying sexism or any sort of discrimination, but many empirical multivariable analysis have been done.
I filed an EEO Complaints four times, each time I won because I kept great records about the mistreatment I received. No woman should be treated as less than her male counterparts. We have power. Let's not be afraid to use it.
It’s true. I am a woman studying engineering and computer sciences, and I often have the feeling that I need to study more than my male friends if I want to be considered as competent as them.
TownesVanZandt i never blamed or hated everyone. In fact, i dont think that men are necessarily worse than women when it comes to biases. I just say that everyone still has more or less unconscious assumptions, sometimes false, about people based on their gender. And some assumptions can also disadvantage men i some situations. But it does not necessarily mean that the people are bad. Don’t worry little boy, i am not accusing you or blaming you. Feminism should focus on defending women’s individual rights, not attacking / blaming men for being born male.
It's true. My English teacher did that test with the class where the nurse says "oh my God that's my son" and nobody in the class got that the nurse was his dad. Gender stereotypes affect our thinking and behavior more than we realize.
It is ironic because being a nurse often takes a lot of physical strength which is associated with men. When my grandmother was dying her nurses were mostly men and AMAZING they were "manly" men, and had to be because helping a grown person dying of cancer includes unfun things that take a lot of compassion, respect, and strength (like changing diapers and moving them very gently from one place to another without their fragile body breaking) they were amazing, and always respectful
I’ve always called male babies (my sister had 3 boys) beautiful, with pretty eyes and gorgeous features. It was true. But I’ve taken many college courses on this stuff and my eyes were already open. The fact is, there’s more variety within a gender than across genders, on both sides. And it’s horrendous to put any one in a box. Ultimately, we’re all souls on a journey.
Fantastic... only one disagreement...flexible working isn’t the solution for the reality that many women’s do more of the childcare and housekeeping...because this means that wr are accepting that it’s ok that the home keeping is left to women by default. Flexible working definitely helps (where possible...(not so possible if you are that surgeon), but the solution is equality in the home.
@@Jacco0 Thanks, not sure I understand what you are trying to say. What all boils down to choice? If you are saying that women have to make a choice more than men, then that is not equality of opportunity.
@@megfinch-jones7122 SAY IT AGAIN BUT LOUDER SO PEOPLE IN THE BACK CAN HEAR IT! Oh my, that thing about housekeeping and childcare was awful in this video. It's not a woman's job, come on, people, it's 21 century, for fox sake! Flexible hours are overall better for employees and employers. I think that in the midst of pandemic many people realized that it's good, but they still are blinded and wait for 'things to go back to normal' instead of taking into consideration people with chronic illnesses, single parents, and every freaking research that has been done on flexible hours and capitalism in general. Anyway, thank you for pointing this absurdity out, I cannot believe there aren't more comments about it. Since when unequal division of labor in the household is being solved by giving women more time to do the work? That's actually sexist.
"I don't want any woman in the world to feel like she is not quite good enough." My favorite word in this quote is the very first word. If every woman, man, girl, and boy said this, and it was their honest opinion and they owned that opinion strongly enough to say it, we could make serious headway in ending gender inequality. We each have to be able to say, "I don't want any woman in the world to feel like she is not quite good enough."
I have seen this lately a lot in the business I work for. All the loan officers are men, all the loan processors are women and they are treated like secretaries instead of respected as equals. When they try to move to loan officers the company hires from outside rather than hire highly educated employees that already work for them.
The reason male characteristics are elevated and female characteristics are shunned is because of capitalism. It's a feature of our predatory economic machine. The traits of compassion and cooperation don't help you with world domination and military prowess.
@Elliot Sampson They're just bitter that women cant acheive anything and wants other people to change their way of thinking instead of trying hard for themselves. No one is stopping women from being CEO's lmao.
@BL , it's not a virtue to hate people. I am saddened and appalled by your comment. You are affecting people's sanity by hour hate and intolerance. Your micro aggressions should be banned and punished like physical aggression/assault.
men sobbing in the comments because they don't see that all people are ingrained with internalized misogyny. just because we have access to becoming amazing doesn't mean we FEEL that way. when we are talked over, put down, and seen as lesser people and not equal to men, it affects us deeply in how we see ourselves. + if you are going to have facts, you better lay them down in front of me.
As a man I understand I am privileged and I fully agree with almost everything Maureen said, except for the pink box being regarded as less valueable, but maybe that's just me and maybe I'm just plain wrong. As I see it the caring and kind nature of women/feminimity is hold in as much regard as male/masculine traits for many reasons in society (which is too much to go into). I personally hold it in higher regard, find it way more valueable and think it should be more prominent in society and goverment than it is right now... But it is true that the blue box traits are preferenced in lot or maybe most places in economic, academic and goverment work places. ( I kind of feel like I know why? But hard to pinpoint in plain text.) And men are seen as blue, women as pink because of impliciet bias. But I feel like we should strife for purple and care more, besides trying to rid implicit bias discrimination.
Jacco0 I wish there were more guys like you who are able to have conversations. When men come into contact with these topics, a lot of them become very defensive and angry.
@Entrenched Mgtow By and large you're correct. However, as mentioned some of that could be the result of parental and societal expectations during upbringing. There are certainly major biological differences. Men for instance being nature's "experiment" and having greater variance in traits are going to have greater representation at both ends of the bell curve, both high and low; this explains overrepresentation in geniuses, CEO's, criminals, and psychopaths. However, what I took from this video was a need to treat people as individuals. Sure, bias has its place and knowing someone is from a certain group can tell you a lot about them. But, if you can evaluate people from a tabula rasa state as much as possible, using their surface features as a guide, not a finish line, everyone benefits in the long run (though it does increase cognitive overhead).
@Entrenched Mgtow i actually disagree with that. if we take the hypothetical that men stopped contributing or doing anything that is in our "privilege" that would essentially cause a reshaping of the world structure without all the unnecessary baggage of the ones in a world dominated by men. this would lead to an establishing of a completely new world order that overall may be beneficial to the survival of the human race.
@@rahulsatish7131 A lot of inferring going on. The prevalence of character-directed insults in response to a couple of sentences of exposition is a little startling.
She is absolutely right. From a young age, I resented being put in the pink box. I was constantly being told by society and especially by advertising what a woman was and how a woman should think. I deeply resented it. My first thought was always - since I was at least 12, was that I was a human being FIRST and I'll damn well think and act the way I want to! That did not mean that I didn't like being female and that I didn't want to be female. I sure did. I saw from a young age that women were superior to men but were getting the short end of the stick. I saw many incompetent men promoted and given prominent positions that they did not deserve simply because they were men and I still see that happening all of the time. Wasting half of the brain power in the world simply because that body doesn't have the right genitals, in your opinion, is wrong - and also dangerous for the survival of the world. We have to change this groupthink. Our planet is in peril and we need every strong, competent brain on board or we will not survive as a species.
Something changed through these talks cause I saw all these statstics on social media and it's way more frequently talked about. And I've done lots of homework and I tell others about it. It's a long way to that vision. But actually, recent events really keep stressing how vital that change is, how very necessary. No matter what problem I look at, I always come out at that exact issue and bias and how it affects the traits we box, regardless of who has it or where it appears. The damage is incredibly visible to me and it's massive. But I can breathe, every time I see that people - specially joung people (and particularly young males) - are speaking up. Are taking the time to educate themselves and their peers on these matters of life. I just wonder how many more of a mess we're gonna produce before we see that problem through to a level where gender is no longer "a thing" in society and the full spectrum and sub spectrums are "normal"
Just to play devil's advocate, I'm one of those women who tend to occupy top roles in companies, and I regularly get featured alongside other men, even in traditionally male industries like construction safety. I know lots of women are going to be unhappy with this, but I DO agree with the the advice to Lean In. Not to take on the 'burden' of change, but to do no more than what men are already doing. Not all men are successful. But the ones who are, lean in. They actively participate. Men who doubt themselves and hold back don't get leadership positions either. I don't agree with holding position quotas for women - I would be insulted to get a position at a table just because they held it available for me. I want to get it cos I deserved it. I think we want to think critically about whose advice we follow - the advice of women who have held their own, or the advice of women who didn't make it and complain about gender inequality.
maybe quotas for minorities and women can help change the societal norms we’re all born into and struggle throughout our lives to accept, question or change…
Of all the other TED talks or any other talks about Gender Issues that I have seen, this is the best among them! Did this woman just give the solution to the world's greatest problem??? Implicit Bias... flexible work, and transparent pay... and of course "Raise our children outside of the pink & blue box"... I just find this to be spiritually and mentally uplifting. Respect
The reason male characteristics are elevated and female characteristics are shunned is because of capitalism. It's a feature of our predatory economic machine. The traits of compassion and cooperation don't help you with world domination and military prowess.
Patriarchy gives us our implicit bias for a preference for whomever fits or resembles the image of the great patriarchal father... Hate for the sinner women
Please kick the misogynistic people out of the comments without disabling the comments. So many misogynistic horrid comments to this video. Why does UA-cam allow this? And please do not turn off comments, just remove the misogynistic ones, it will be wrong to shut up a discussion just because some brute comes in shouting, send the brutes out and let's have a constructive discussion about a critical topic in human society
I’m one of the 99.999% of men who aren’t a CEO and am very happy that I am not. I don’t want to work 24 hours a day and be attacked from below for my job. If you want that life all power to you.
I am not sure that this talk about being CEO... It is more about allowing anyone to be what they want and are able to be based on their skills and work and not gender
4:34 Patriarchy. Envious men. Mediocre men. Lazy men. Etc... Wanna see how men are acting in the workplace now in 2022? My videos are of my experiences at my job. I have to make videos and leave them in the comment section of corporate's yt channel.
Whereas I definitely would not dispute women facing sexist discrimination, I find it interesting that she interprets a study showing boys being given less affection than girls as somehow being chauvinistic in the favour of boys
Interesting. I believe that she shows that study not to say that this behavior is in favor of boys, but that children are treated differently leading to disadvantages of girls and boys in different fields of their lives. While girls are mostly disadvantaged in the professional environment and they are being reduced to their looks and qualities as mothers and carers, men are very disadvantaged when it comes to emotions, being told their whole life they have to be strong, leaders and providers and can't show weakness or emotions.
Implicit bias is folk science. According to the pioneers of the implicit bias research. Studies that test for implicit bias are not replicable and are not effective at predicting discrimination in the real world. But it makes people feel better about themselves for not getting jobs or achieving success. They can just attribute it to “implicit bias” Sad.
WoW, minD BLOWN You've proven tthis matter so much matter so much better than this lady who discussed this at or length unlike you with backed research just to slight her. Childish.
@@bonbonvrock84 The researchers who created the Implicit Association Test (the test most commonly used to test implicit bias) did find that implicit bias is not correlated with explicit bias (biased action)/
It's just our survival instinct. The reason we prefer masculine characteristics is because of our past, because those are the characteristics that brought us where we are now. We reached a point where that's no longer necessary and we need to overcome our basic insticts and evolve around our new society. Still today there are many girls and women that prefer strong men because they feel more secure around them. I liked this speech because it takles the real problem closer than the common feminazis that just see the results and effects of these problems and don't really understand the reasons behind it. Men are not the only guilty ones. Men and women evolved together. Now we have to work together, more united than before to address our problems. We no longer need as many phisically strong men to defend us as in the past, we need more brain power. We need more ideas, proposals and solutions. The smartest and shortest way to achieve that is by working all together and thus having a broader perspective. We ARE different, but diversity is what we need. If everyone thought the same way we would progress a lot slower or not at all
Marcus Ardelean Did most women truly prefer masculinity or did we not have the power to prefer otherwise? Can someone truly make a choice not to be secure when they have no opportunity to provide for themselves? There are biological preferences of course, but assuming women have historically "chosen" something when they had no choice at all doesn't make for a completely accurate assessment. Women did not choose to be dependent on masculinity, even historically, in a vacuum. The need for provision, protection, and security at its heart comes from the stifling and mistreatment of women. We wouldn't need it without a system of oppression that spanned millenia.
mtpianohearder that makes sense and might be true, but biologically men are stronger than women and they always had different roles. Same goes for other animals, in some species it's the female doing all the hard work in others it's not. If something works why change it? The level of stability and security we currently have is way more than in the past, that's why I say it is time to change. Biologically speaking it's the mother's duty to care for newborns, so you can see it makes sense for them to avoid dangerous activities and leave them to the more expendable men. What men do is simply inseminate (and hopefully provide), it's the women that have to actually deal with the babies most. Survival of the species
@@Mak095 so Marcus, with what you have said, it is even more important that women be strong and intelligent since it Falls and them to be the nurturers of the Next Generation.
@MrHotPinkBanana he's blanket statements of women wanting a strong male mate don't really say anything substantive. If you actually observe married couples, you see a plethora of man who don't fit the He-man type if that's what you're referring to as strong
Marcus Ardelean LMAO where in the world do you people come up with this? uh, no. No to all of this. Preference to male characteristics is not in our biology. That whole hunting gathering thing for men and nurturing children for women thing, you do realize that's made up, right? Like early civilizations, men and women did both things. So let's artificially divide these characteristics like what you've done and what we've all gone by for awhile. You really think that these more masculine features are the sole thing that kept people alive? You do realize that in order for the human species to survive, they have to be born and taken care of and nurtured, right? Even playing along with your hypothetical theory was hard it was so ridiculous.
I am guessing you are responsible for taking out the bins and that is about all the responsibility anyone will allow you, this is a talk about people that have some skills, not you.
13:55 I don't agree with the first because our brains, as genders, as simply wired different. A group of girls will socialize very differently from a group of boys and this can be seen from kindergarten up to the work place. I also do not agree with the second one. Quotas have been always a very poor strategy of employment. Put simply, you get the job if you are capable of doing what the job says you need to do. If I have 100 positions in my company, I won't block 50 of them just because of some silly quota. I will try to fill them as fast as possible with whatever people prove to me that they are capable and competent of doing those jobs. Blocking theirs names on the resumes won't solve much because you still have to have an interview face to face or at least over the phone call. Flexible work is always good, but not always possible. You can't have flexible work in a bank ( security reasons ) or a factory ( production reasons ) or a school ( time table reasons ).
I am a woman and I agree with you. I didn't find the speaker's solution to be convincing. Maybe it would have helped if she had further explained those solutions.
Wait a minute. She bailed out of her career and will never make it to the top of her field. Then she complains about the under representation of women in the top spots? She IS the problem.
@@seeyouneverp9158 People like me? Always the start of a prejudiced opinion. Challenge what I actually said and not your fantasies. Ah, but you can't, so your first statement is a personal attack. I understand. Feeling threatened by the truth?
Wrong title ... She does not know what she is talking about: this not implicit bias, this just classical bias or prejudice, a perfectly efficient but sometimes inaccurate way of assessing a situation. Implicit bias is a shortcut taken by the brain when not given enough time to think but that completely disappears after a few milliseconds of thinking.
are you confused? implicit bias comes from the messages, attitudes, and stereotypes we pick up from the world we live in, and research over time and from different countries shows that it tends to line up with general social hierarchies. Heuristics are mental shortcuts and do not necessarily involve power dynamics or social hierarchies. Maureen knows what she's talking about, you clearly don't.
@@emilyquinn5856 where do biases originally come from. Are we the only animal species without preferences and instincts written in our DNA? Are we all born with a blank slate upon which everything is conditioned by society? Does our biology not inform our behavior AT ALL? Do all inequities come from the messages and stereotypes told to us by patriarchs? Try applying your comment to other animal cultures and see how well it works.
What do you mean by "it"? Adversity explains some of the differences, obviously not all of them. Societal programming as well as biological differences explain the rest. Surely equality of opportunity and freedom of choice (codified in law in most western nations, but not entirely enforceable in practice) is best to achieve optimal performance of the system overall?
@@Sarah-re7cg Watching you struggle so hard is the perfect allegory for how you'd struggle (and quickly die off) if masculinity ceased to be. You're just another whining, powerless, detached from reality, neurotic.
Men are build to hunt down animals with spears. Since that is not required any more today, men are completely useless. Is that the point you are trying to make? Evolution could not have built anyone for stock markets or dealing with money or working on computers, because these things simply did not exist during most of human evolution.
Firstly, carrying a child and giving birth to it does not mean women aren't built for anything else. In case you hadn’t noticed women have working brains just like men and are capable of participating in any area men can. Women can be politicians, authors, scientists, doctors, barristers ect. Are you trying to say that because women give birth all these fields should be closed off to them? That all women should be forced to complete the same task (childrearing) while men get to pick between thousands of interesting careers able to express themselves and their individual interests? If you had a daughter would you tell her to put all her interests aside because all she’s good for is carrying children and looking after them? You also said ‘you don’t have a choice’ but women do have a choice. That’s why the majority of women are in paid employment!
What is that even supposed to mean? I can't quite wrap my head around it because it's so far off from my experience. We can be engineeres and take care of children on the side, no problem...
@@wickedwonderland9831 It means women aren't able to do certain jobs/work... effectively, or at all, and men aren't able to do certain jobs/work... effectively, or at all. ^^ Several examples above. It means, don't whine about your unchangable nature; embrace it and do your best. Stop trying to make yourself into something you're not. Glad that's cleared up and won't have to be reiterated again.
Told that story.. but it went over everyone's heads over her own judgement call on how that man that gave the talk was dressed. That alone shows her own unconscious bias... also.. some of this was debunked in the last two years...
Instead of studying as hard let's just blame an entire group of people instead. She has used data but not said what the women graduated in. Believe me if someone was smart and hard working enough then usually they will be rewarded. That's just economic sense. Why would firms not employ smart women when they supposedly paid less? I've worked with plenty smart and capable women. I've also seen many women not being treated the same as men. For example not doing the physically demanding roles and expecting the same rates. I've also seen guys made redundant so that more women could be employed. A female director was behind this. Life isn't fair but dont blame an entire race or gender for it.
OMG I got so shocked from her implicit bias example! I'm a woman and I've been studying to be a surgeon myself for 14 months now. Even I thought about the "surgeon" of the story as a man... It's scary!
It's not an example of implicit bias. It's simply a statistical thing. In a society where we have the majority of surgeons are men, our minds automatically picture it. When we here about a construction worker, we imagine a man.. is it bias? No.
So what ? So what if you are a woman, yet your "surgeon model" is a male? Who says it has to be a female? In my language there is no feminine version for the word "surgeon".
@@nirbhayankk6053 Incorrect. Nice try though. The reason male characteristics are elevated and female characteristics are shunned is because of capitalism. It's a feature of our predatory economic machine. The traits of compassion and cooperation don't help you with world domination and military prowess.
Revolution 2020 yeah so if women are paid less than men then it would be like capitalism and they would just hire all women. Women don’t work as much or harder than men statistically. It’s just a fact.
@@profacts6969 About 6% of the gender pay gap is unaccounted for. Hours worked and productivity was taken into account. "Men work harder" isn't "just a fact ". I'm not saying sexism or any sort of discrimination, but many empirical multivariable analysis have been done.
I filed an EEO Complaints four times, each time I won because I kept great records about the mistreatment I received. No woman should be treated as less than her male counterparts. We have power. Let's not be afraid to use it.
Yeah 2 women filed complaints against me in 2 weeks and they were both lying. Thank goodness for witnesses
It’s true. I am a woman studying engineering and computer sciences, and I often have the feeling that I need to study more than my male friends if I want to be considered as competent as them.
Christian Toth nope
@Christian Toth why don't you shut up?
The cool guy 2 Pardon my grammar mistakes and my way of talking, if it sounds funny. I am not a native English speaker.
TownesVanZandt i never blamed or hated everyone. In fact, i dont think that men are necessarily worse than women when it comes to biases. I just say that everyone still has more or less unconscious assumptions, sometimes false, about people based on their gender. And some assumptions can also disadvantage men i some situations. But it does not necessarily mean that the people are bad. Don’t worry little boy, i am not accusing you or blaming you. Feminism should focus on defending women’s individual rights, not attacking / blaming men for being born male.
I felt the same. I was the only female grad student in a science program.
It's true. My English teacher did that test with the class where the nurse says "oh my God that's my son" and nobody in the class got that the nurse was his dad. Gender stereotypes affect our thinking and behavior more than we realize.
“Systemic genderism”? 🤣
Equal opportunity, not equal outcomes.
It is ironic because being a nurse often takes a lot of physical strength which is associated with men.
When my grandmother was dying her nurses were mostly men and AMAZING they were "manly" men, and had to be because helping a grown person dying of cancer includes unfun things that take a lot of compassion, respect, and strength (like changing diapers and moving them very gently from one place to another without their fragile body breaking) they were amazing, and always respectful
I’ve always called male babies (my sister had 3 boys) beautiful, with pretty eyes and gorgeous features. It was true. But I’ve taken many college courses on this stuff and my eyes were already open. The fact is, there’s more variety within a gender than across genders, on both sides. And it’s horrendous to put any one in a box. Ultimately, we’re all souls on a journey.
LLM Variety isnt the issue It is the type of variety that is key. The gender difference is bigger than any the intergender differences .
Fantastic... only one disagreement...flexible working isn’t the solution for the reality that many women’s do more of the childcare and housekeeping...because this means that wr are accepting that it’s ok that the home keeping is left to women by default. Flexible working definitely helps (where possible...(not so possible if you are that surgeon), but the solution is equality in the home.
I'm all for it! But it all boils down to choice; equality of opportunity doesn't equal equality of outcome.
@@Jacco0 Thanks, not sure I understand what you are trying to say. What all boils down to choice? If you are saying that women have to make a choice more than men, then that is not equality of opportunity.
@@megfinch-jones7122 SAY IT AGAIN BUT LOUDER SO PEOPLE IN THE BACK CAN HEAR IT! Oh my, that thing about housekeeping and childcare was awful in this video. It's not a woman's job, come on, people, it's 21 century, for fox sake! Flexible hours are overall better for employees and employers. I think that in the midst of pandemic many people realized that it's good, but they still are blinded and wait for 'things to go back to normal' instead of taking into consideration people with chronic illnesses, single parents, and every freaking research that has been done on flexible hours and capitalism in general. Anyway, thank you for pointing this absurdity out, I cannot believe there aren't more comments about it. Since when unequal division of labor in the household is being solved by giving women more time to do the work? That's actually sexist.
"I don't want any woman in the world to feel like she is not quite good enough." My favorite word in this quote is the very first word. If every woman, man, girl, and boy said this, and it was their honest opinion and they owned that opinion strongly enough to say it, we could make serious headway in ending gender inequality. We each have to be able to say, "I don't want any woman in the world to feel like she is not quite good enough."
I have seen this lately a lot in the business I work for. All the loan officers are men, all the loan processors are women and they are treated like secretaries instead of respected as equals. When they try to move to loan officers the company hires from outside rather than hire highly educated employees that already work for them.
this. This talk needs to be everywhere.
The reason male characteristics are elevated and female characteristics are shunned is because of capitalism. It's a feature of our predatory economic machine. The traits of compassion and cooperation don't help you with world domination and military prowess.
@@Revolution-tl5wo you're working the whole comment section with this. Sthap
I like this talk a lot. Not only highlights the problems, but also gives the solutions that we need.
Remote Work and Zoom will help a bit in the Post Covid Economy.
But the Speaker articulated many. Great points
Great! Maureen hits on so many points I have always felt - and does it clearly and without judgement. Well done!
I'm saddened and appalled by the comments men leave under this video. Seriously, save your own sanity and don't read them
@Elliot Sampson I agree
@Elliot Sampson They're just bitter that women cant acheive anything and wants other people to change their way of thinking instead of trying hard for themselves. No one is stopping women from being CEO's lmao.
@BL , it's not a virtue to hate people. I am saddened and appalled by your comment. You are affecting people's sanity by hour hate and intolerance. Your micro aggressions should be banned and punished like physical aggression/assault.
men sobbing in the comments because they don't see that all people are ingrained with internalized misogyny. just because we have access to becoming amazing doesn't mean we FEEL that way. when we are talked over, put down, and seen as lesser people and not equal to men, it affects us deeply in how we see ourselves. + if you are going to have facts, you better lay them down in front of me.
@@cultistivator809 isn't it scary how there are all of these men are denying women (including themselves) to feel? That's how anything has meaning! 🙏🏻
As a man I understand I am privileged and I fully agree with almost everything Maureen said, except for the pink box being regarded as less valueable, but maybe that's just me and maybe I'm just plain wrong. As I see it the caring and kind nature of women/feminimity is hold in as much regard as male/masculine traits for many reasons in society (which is too much to go into). I personally hold it in higher regard, find it way more valueable and think it should be more prominent in society and goverment than it is right now... But it is true that the blue box traits are preferenced in lot or maybe most places in economic, academic and goverment work places. ( I kind of feel like I know why? But hard to pinpoint in plain text.) And men are seen as blue, women as pink because of impliciet bias. But I feel like we should strife for purple and care more, besides trying to rid implicit bias discrimination.
Jacco0 I wish there were more guys like you who are able to have conversations. When men come into contact with these topics, a lot of them become very defensive and angry.
@Entrenched Mgtow By and large you're correct. However, as mentioned some of that could be the result of parental and societal expectations during upbringing. There are certainly major biological differences. Men for instance being nature's "experiment" and having greater variance in traits are going to have greater representation at both ends of the bell curve, both high and low; this explains overrepresentation in geniuses, CEO's, criminals, and psychopaths.
However, what I took from this video was a need to treat people as individuals. Sure, bias has its place and knowing someone is from a certain group can tell you a lot about them. But, if you can evaluate people from a tabula rasa state as much as possible, using their surface features as a guide, not a finish line, everyone benefits in the long run (though it does increase cognitive overhead).
@Entrenched Mgtow i actually disagree with that. if we take the hypothetical that men stopped contributing or doing anything that is in our "privilege" that would essentially cause a reshaping of the world structure without all the unnecessary baggage of the ones in a world dominated by men. this would lead to an establishing of a completely new world order that overall may be beneficial to the survival of the human race.
@Naz Shey I feel like the only person here who doesn't care about stats and evidence is you.
@@rahulsatish7131 A lot of inferring going on. The prevalence of character-directed insults in response to a couple of sentences of exposition is a little startling.
She is absolutely right. From a young age, I resented being put in the pink box. I was constantly being told by society and especially by advertising what a woman was and how a woman should think. I deeply resented it. My first thought was always - since I was at least 12, was that I was a human being FIRST and I'll damn well think and act the way I want to! That did not mean that I didn't like being female and that I didn't want to be female. I sure did. I saw from a young age that women were superior to men but were getting the short end of the stick. I saw many incompetent men promoted and given prominent positions that they did not deserve simply because they were men and I still see that happening all of the time. Wasting half of the brain power in the world simply because that body doesn't have the right genitals, in your opinion, is wrong - and also dangerous for the survival of the world. We have to change this groupthink. Our planet is in peril and we need every strong, competent brain on board or we will not survive as a species.
Delusional.
+peachie05
You seem to be an expert on that subject.
Tell us how you live with it.
Then why are all the great inventions by men?
"women superior to men" , can you explain please. Because that's the issue with feminism, you want more than equality...
@@helloworld7080 it's not. feminism is about equality for all. no more no less. everything other is not feminism.
The best ted talk ever!❤️
Best Ted talk ever, well said
Something changed through these talks cause I saw all these statstics on social media and it's way more frequently talked about. And I've done lots of homework and I tell others about it.
It's a long way to that vision. But actually, recent events really keep stressing how vital that change is, how very necessary. No matter what problem I look at, I always come out at that exact issue and bias and how it affects the traits we box, regardless of who has it or where it appears.
The damage is incredibly visible to me and it's massive.
But I can breathe, every time I see that people - specially joung people (and particularly young males) - are speaking up. Are taking the time to educate themselves and their peers on these matters of life.
I just wonder how many more of a mess we're gonna produce before we see that problem through to a level where gender is no longer "a thing" in society and the full spectrum and sub spectrums are "normal"
Finally someone criticizing Lean In.
Just to play devil's advocate, I'm one of those women who tend to occupy top roles in companies, and I regularly get featured alongside other men, even in traditionally male industries like construction safety. I know lots of women are going to be unhappy with this, but I DO agree with the the advice to Lean In. Not to take on the 'burden' of change, but to do no more than what men are already doing. Not all men are successful. But the ones who are, lean in. They actively participate. Men who doubt themselves and hold back don't get leadership positions either. I don't agree with holding position quotas for women - I would be insulted to get a position at a table just because they held it available for me. I want to get it cos I deserved it. I think we want to think critically about whose advice we follow - the advice of women who have held their own, or the advice of women who didn't make it and complain about gender inequality.
agree quotas are not a good idea
maybe quotas for minorities and women can help change the societal norms we’re all born into and struggle throughout our lives to accept, question or change…
Of all the other TED talks or any other talks about Gender Issues that I have seen, this is the best among them! Did this woman just give the solution to the world's greatest problem??? Implicit Bias... flexible work, and transparent pay... and of course "Raise our children outside of the pink & blue box"... I just find this to be spiritually and mentally uplifting. Respect
just wan to say "leaning in" in my social life helped me a lot so i think it's good advice anyway even if it's not enough.
The reason male characteristics are elevated and female characteristics are shunned is because of capitalism. It's a feature of our predatory economic machine. The traits of compassion and cooperation don't help you with world domination and military prowess.
Great talk, so insightful!
Excellent talk!
great talk. thanks
Patriarchy gives us our implicit bias for a preference for whomever fits or resembles the image of the great patriarchal father... Hate for the sinner women
It's all about that equality.
Minute 7 surgeon story 🙌🏽🙌🏽👏🏼
I love wearing red and pink, but, sadly, my uniform is dark blue
Please kick the misogynistic people out of the comments without disabling the comments.
So many misogynistic horrid comments to this video.
Why does UA-cam allow this?
And please do not turn off comments, just remove the misogynistic ones, it will be wrong to shut up a discussion just because some brute comes in shouting, send the brutes out and let's have a constructive discussion about a critical topic in human society
I’m one of the 99.999% of men who aren’t a CEO and am very happy that I am not. I don’t want to work 24 hours a day and be attacked from below for my job. If you want that life all power to you.
I am not sure that this talk about being CEO...
It is more about allowing anyone to be what they want and are able to be based on their skills and work and not gender
Get rid of patriarchy
fantastic
WOW! 🤯
4:34 Patriarchy. Envious men. Mediocre men. Lazy men. Etc...
Wanna see how men are acting in the workplace now in 2022? My videos are of my experiences at my job. I have to make videos and leave them in the comment section of corporate's yt channel.
3:18 On the other hand, how many women are named John? Really makes one think.
Doesn't really mate, think you missed the point a bit
Wow! Yes! Right! Omg
Whereas I definitely would not dispute women facing sexist discrimination, I find it interesting that she interprets a study showing boys being given less affection than girls as somehow being chauvinistic in the favour of boys
Interesting. I believe that she shows that study not to say that this behavior is in favor of boys, but that children are treated differently leading to disadvantages of girls and boys in different fields of their lives. While girls are mostly disadvantaged in the professional environment and they are being reduced to their looks and qualities as mothers and carers, men are very disadvantaged when it comes to emotions, being told their whole life they have to be strong, leaders and providers and can't show weakness or emotions.
Implicit bias is folk science. According to the pioneers of the implicit bias research. Studies that test for implicit bias are not replicable and are not effective at predicting discrimination in the real world.
But it makes people feel better about themselves for not getting jobs or achieving success. They can just attribute it to “implicit bias”
Sad.
WoW, minD BLOWN
You've proven tthis matter so much matter so much better than this lady who discussed this at or length unlike you with backed research just to slight her. Childish.
Bonbon VRock
English not your first language?
Edit that comment so it makes sense and I’ll respond.
@@bonbonvrock84 The researchers who created the Implicit Association Test (the test most commonly used to test implicit bias) did find that implicit bias is not correlated with explicit bias (biased action)/
So how does this work in the industries, sports etc that women have created? What holds back the women who have replicated the achievements of men?
Didn't realize they gave Cathy Newman a TED Talk
So you think a man can do whatever he wants...
If he has the skill and is willing to put in the hours and work
Why not continue to be a lawyer and prove the guy wrong? I feel the guy won by making her switch her career.
what's the reference to the diaper research?
It's just our survival instinct. The reason we prefer masculine characteristics is because of our past, because those are the characteristics that brought us where we are now. We reached a point where that's no longer necessary and we need to overcome our basic insticts and evolve around our new society. Still today there are many girls and women that prefer strong men because they feel more secure around them.
I liked this speech because it takles the real problem closer than the common feminazis that just see the results and effects of these problems and don't really understand the reasons behind it. Men are not the only guilty ones. Men and women evolved together. Now we have to work together, more united than before to address our problems. We no longer need as many phisically strong men to defend us as in the past, we need more brain power. We need more ideas, proposals and solutions. The smartest and shortest way to achieve that is by working all together and thus having a broader perspective.
We ARE different, but diversity is what we need. If everyone thought the same way we would progress a lot slower or not at all
Marcus Ardelean Did most women truly prefer masculinity or did we not have the power to prefer otherwise? Can someone truly make a choice not to be secure when they have no opportunity to provide for themselves? There are biological preferences of course, but assuming women have historically "chosen" something when they had no choice at all doesn't make for a completely accurate assessment. Women did not choose to be dependent on masculinity, even historically, in a vacuum. The need for provision, protection, and security at its heart comes from the stifling and mistreatment of women. We wouldn't need it without a system of oppression that spanned millenia.
mtpianohearder that makes sense and might be true, but biologically men are stronger than women and they always had different roles. Same goes for other animals, in some species it's the female doing all the hard work in others it's not. If something works why change it? The level of stability and security we currently have is way more than in the past, that's why I say it is time to change. Biologically speaking it's the mother's duty to care for newborns, so you can see it makes sense for them to avoid dangerous activities and leave them to the more expendable men. What men do is simply inseminate (and hopefully provide), it's the women that have to actually deal with the babies most. Survival of the species
@@Mak095 so Marcus, with what you have said, it is even more important that women be strong and intelligent since it Falls and them to be the nurturers of the Next Generation.
@MrHotPinkBanana he's blanket statements of women wanting a strong male mate don't really say anything substantive. If you actually observe married couples, you see a plethora of man who don't fit the He-man type if that's what you're referring to as strong
Marcus Ardelean LMAO where in the world do you people come up with this? uh, no. No to all of this. Preference to male characteristics is not in our biology. That whole hunting gathering thing for men and nurturing children for women thing, you do realize that's made up, right? Like early civilizations, men and women did both things. So let's artificially divide these characteristics like what you've done and what we've all gone by for awhile. You really think that these more masculine features are the sole thing that kept people alive? You do realize that in order for the human species to survive, they have to be born and taken care of and nurtured, right? Even playing along with your hypothetical theory was hard it was so ridiculous.
Drivel
Ya BUT women do not want to hold the same responsibility as men generally do...
I am guessing you are responsible for taking out the bins and that is about all the responsibility anyone will allow you, this is a talk about people that have some skills, not you.
@@hannacook859 That is why I said generally. Many women do and have the ability but most women don't. Why are you turning it personal.
13:55 I don't agree with the first because our brains, as genders, as simply wired different. A group of girls will socialize very differently from a group of boys and this can be seen from kindergarten up to the work place. I also do not agree with the second one. Quotas have been always a very poor strategy of employment. Put simply, you get the job if you are capable of doing what the job says you need to do. If I have 100 positions in my company, I won't block 50 of them just because of some silly quota. I will try to fill them as fast as possible with whatever people prove to me that they are capable and competent of doing those jobs. Blocking theirs names on the resumes won't solve much because you still have to have an interview face to face or at least over the phone call. Flexible work is always good, but not always possible. You can't have flexible work in a bank ( security reasons ) or a factory ( production reasons ) or a school ( time table reasons ).
I am a woman and I agree with you. I didn't find the speaker's solution to be convincing. Maybe it would have helped if she had further explained those solutions.
So TED is allowing religious sermons...
Wait a minute. She bailed out of her career and will never make it to the top of her field. Then she complains about the under representation of women in the top spots? She IS the problem.
@@seeyouneverp9158
People like me? Always the start of a prejudiced opinion. Challenge what I actually said and not your fantasies. Ah, but you can't, so your first statement is a personal attack. I understand. Feeling threatened by the truth?
All she said had no basis. Just personal opinions that are completely false.
Wait what did she say? I wasn’t listening
Wrong title ... She does not know what she is talking about: this not implicit bias, this just classical bias or prejudice, a perfectly efficient but sometimes inaccurate way of assessing a situation. Implicit bias is a shortcut taken by the brain when not given enough time to think but that completely disappears after a few milliseconds of thinking.
are you confused? implicit bias comes from the messages, attitudes, and stereotypes we pick up from the world we live in, and research over time and from different countries shows that it tends to line up with general social hierarchies. Heuristics are mental shortcuts and do not necessarily involve power dynamics or social hierarchies. Maureen knows what she's talking about, you clearly don't.
@@emilyquinn5856 where do biases originally come from. Are we the only animal species without preferences and instincts written in our DNA? Are we all born with a blank slate upon which everything is conditioned by society? Does our biology not inform our behavior AT ALL? Do all inequities come from the messages and stereotypes told to us by patriarchs? Try applying your comment to other animal cultures and see how well it works.
I disagree. It's not "adversity."
Charles Warren it's not an opinion, love. It's a reality.
What do you mean by "it"? Adversity explains some of the differences, obviously not all of them. Societal programming as well as biological differences explain the rest. Surely equality of opportunity and freedom of choice (codified in law in most western nations, but not entirely enforceable in practice) is best to achieve optimal performance of the system overall?
@@Sarah-re7cg
Watching you struggle so hard is the perfect allegory for how you'd struggle (and quickly die off) if masculinity ceased to be.
You're just another whining, powerless, detached from reality, neurotic.
*What* gender gap?
You're built for different things (thank god)
Accept it.
You don't have a choice.
Men are build to hunt down animals with spears. Since that is not required any more today, men are completely useless. Is that the point you are trying to make?
Evolution could not have built anyone for stock markets or dealing with money or working on computers, because these things simply did not exist during most of human evolution.
Firstly, carrying a child and giving birth to it does not mean women aren't built for anything else. In case you hadn’t noticed women have working brains just like men and are capable of participating in any area men can. Women can be politicians, authors, scientists, doctors, barristers ect. Are you trying to say that because women give birth all these fields should be closed off to them? That all women should be forced to complete the same task (childrearing) while men get to pick between thousands of interesting careers able to express themselves and their individual interests? If you had a daughter would you tell her to put all her interests aside because all she’s good for is carrying children and looking after them? You also said ‘you don’t have a choice’ but women do have a choice. That’s why the majority of women are in paid employment!
The "you're biologically different so you don't belong here" argument lol oh that's still a thing?
What is that even supposed to mean? I can't quite wrap my head around it because it's so far off from my experience. We can be engineeres and take care of children on the side, no problem...
@@wickedwonderland9831
It means women aren't able to do certain jobs/work... effectively, or at all, and men aren't able to do certain jobs/work... effectively, or at all.
^^ Several examples above.
It means, don't whine about your unchangable nature; embrace it and do your best.
Stop trying to make yourself into something you're not.
Glad that's cleared up and won't have to be reiterated again.
Told that story.. but it went over everyone's heads over her own judgement call on how that man that gave the talk was dressed. That alone shows her own unconscious bias... also.. some of this was debunked in the last two years...
My follow women love blaming men for everything. We love fingure point at men yet we voted a white male as woman of the year.
Instead of studying as hard let's just blame an entire group of people instead.
She has used data but not said what the women graduated in.
Believe me if someone was smart and hard working enough then usually they will be rewarded. That's just economic sense. Why would firms not employ smart women when they supposedly paid less?
I've worked with plenty smart and capable women. I've also seen many women not being treated the same as men. For example not doing the physically demanding roles and expecting the same rates.
I've also seen guys made redundant so that more women could be employed. A female director was behind this.
Life isn't fair but dont blame an entire race or gender for it.