I really find beautiful that they integrated Jeanne's faith in her design without being offensive. La Pucelle is so tragic as a NP, yet terribly poetic
I absolutely love the fact that Fate/Apocrypha made Jeanne's faith a strong part of her character, but handled it in a mature way where it didn't come off as preachy or over the top.
La Pucelle is a literal Divine Flames that capable to burn literally anything. It should be one of the few Noble Phantasm capable to burn Holy Grail along with everything in the room as the flames is backed by the literal God.
That movement is supposed to be suicidal, swallowing everything in the blink of an eye as it cleanses through divine fire everything blemish in this world. ua-cam.com/video/M6UfMgKJN3E/v-deo.html
@@williammbollombassy1778 In raw power, fully unsealed Excalibur wins by a landslide. But in pure concept, as long as Jeanne believes deep down in her heart that whatever stands before her must be destroyed for the sake of the world, then La Pucelle will destroy it, even if it means destroying Excalibur. In a way it's similar to Lord Camelot, the ultimate defensive NP.
Heavens, the sky; they tell of the God's glory Shining bright gold; they both proclaim His handiwork Speeches poured forth from Crepuscular rays during the warmth of days under the sun While wisdom drowns plights through the night before the moon returns dawn A fire ignites in my heart Continuously burning like stars Reminding me of the flames and ash But soon new buds will bloom This ring of white flowers I watch all their sins scorched by the crimson embers Petals caught in a dance of inferno Even my wings can't last in their divine rapture Let despair bring hope This is where I meet my fate's end My destiny now runs its ephemeral course My life's dream has reached its conclusion now Utilizing all I have left Protect his path My Lord, accept my essential sacrifice O' Lord, I entrust this body to you- La Pucelle
That last part: "O Lord, I entrust my body to You." Jesus Christ: "Into Your hands, Father, I commend my spirit." Both were the last things said before they "perished".
I think this is one of the most beautiful scenes I had watched in an anime. As a christian and devout of Saint Jeanne in real life this meant so much for me, specially that I watched in a very special moment in my life. The FATE staff and writters, under certain parameters, done a very beautiful and respectful portrait of my beloved saint - and what meant to be a real christian, as a whole.
The system of NP on FATE GO should be acumulative NP energy, lets say it like this, at 100% you get to use Luminosite eternelle, while at 300% you get use La pucelle, with all servants should be like that, cause in the story every servant have more than 1 NP, check Akhilles, that would add a little more strategy cause, if you use luminosite, you get buff and heal, while la pucelle is a dmg np but a little more harderd to get.
@@thomascochran7907 I don't want to be a dick either but neither of these saints consider themselves saint at all. All they see themselves are a man and a woman fighting for what they believe in. The Lord is impartial. The scale of deeds will be balanced in the hereafter, but right now it's their fight. This scene is no difference from you taking a knife to defend your family from a thief that needs to feed his family, just bigger in scale and with black holes and hellfire instead of knives.
shirou :so i looking for a hot lady king , you? joan: a handsome dragon shirou: we really have a taste ,good luck with yours joan: ah thank you good luck to
This scene will always be gorgeous and tragic. It's almost perfect, in a way. The music, the aesthetic, the atmosphere, Jeanne's piety, Amakusa Shirou's desperation, etc. It's one of the highlights of this show for me alongside Sieg vs. Karna, Chiron vs. Achilles, Jeanne's Luminosite Eternelle and Mordred vs. Semiramis personally. Though something interesting is that the clash between the Noble Phantasms in the original light novel was far more intense and closer: from what I could understand of the untranslated Volume 5 of the F/Apocrypha LN, the clash was described as something that was going to destroy space(? Definitely not outer space space lol) due to the clashing of the 2 powerful NPs. Something that was the equivalent of God saying "Let there be light!". Not to mention that La Pucelle actually managed to regain momentum, briiiiiiiiiefly overpowered Big Crunch, and some of the flames of the Conceptual Weapon managed to reach the Great Holy Grail, destroying 80% of it. It made you genuinely believe that Amakusa Shirou was going to fail his goal for the salvation of humanity, only for Jeanne to fall just a hair short. It's interesting how different both the A-1 anime and the source material depict the events. Not that I am complaining in this case. P.S: Honestly, after the Apocrypha re-run, I hope I'm not the only that kind of frowns whenever peeps say they hate Sieg. He might not have the depth of Shirou or Kiritsugu, but he's still a good boy. :(
I also felt his simplicity to the point that he was happy just that Fujimaru called him a friend at the end, only those who have known loneliness for ages understand the value of memories or friendship as much as he does. And at the end of the event again another sad end for him, by creating the Sieg terminal and having him help Fujimaru in Chaldea when needed, it would not be himself (The Dragon version) who would be there, as the two bodies became separated and disconnected over time, only the memories of that adventure in that world remaining (At least they could show a Flasback with Jeanne and him meeting afterwards). I also don't understand why many people hate Sieg, he is just a homunculus who decided to learn more about life and wanted to live, not all characters need to have the best background, I believe that in Apocrypha the protagonist in fact were all the participants of that war of the Holy Grail, not only Sieg or Jeanne, but the Show itself.
Sho ten wa shu no eikō ni. Ōzora wa mitenowaza ni. Hiru wa kotoba o tsutae, yoru wa chishiki o tsugeru. Waga kokoro wa waga uchigawa de nesshi, omoi tsudzukeru hodo ni moyuru. Waga owari wa koko ni. Waga meisū o koko ni. Waga inochi no hakana-sa o koko ni. Nokosa reta yuiitsutsu no mono o motte, Ka no ayumi o mamora se tamae. Shu ~yo, kono mi o yudanemasu
I'm deeply sorry for all of you guys but as epic of a moment this scene can be, my french ass can't handle seeing and hearing Jeanne proudly yelling "the virgin" (yes "la pucelle" means "the virgin") this is just too funny to go with such animation
In French dub she says: "Je suis la Pucelle!", which means "I am a Virgin!"... ...and as funny as it may seem, there is a very clear intention behind this from writers perspective. Female virgins and children were considered purest human beings in Christian culture in Medieval Ages (which is Jeanne's historical period). She declares purity of her beliefs by stating she's a virgin. It's even better when you remember that Jeanne's virginity was checked multiple times by maidens during her trial for "heresy" and she was proved to be a virgin despite false accusations of consorting with the devil itself.
@@MrSagaTeller thanks for clarifying this point ! Still is funny as hell but when put in context, it is a statement of her faith and how christian she is
@@twistedpivoter2695 You're welcome, I also smirk when I watch this. Yet after some research I am amazed how all characters in Apocrypha are true to their historical/mythical selves or are at least well done variations of them.
Sorry but it is basically a part of her story. She is basically a more modern Saint and is supposed to be a holy virgin, since she was beckoned by God when she was basically a child. She herself apparently used the title, and there was an obvious tactical benefit to it since it implies God selected her as a Holy Maiden. So basically, yes it sounds weird but it is very much accurate according to her well known story.
Sieg...the main problem of Fate/Apocrypha (the anime) was that...it was rushed...badly. There were so many characters within the show that barely get any screen time...best example Atalanta who got screwed badly. In fact, in the Manga...Sieg's character got explored and actually explains why he took up the sword. Like he actually became likable as a character due to how much he develops...we get none of them within the Anime as it rushed as hell.
Yeah, the main problem is that it's only like 24 episodes, so combined that with 14 servants, 2 rules, and one that becomes a demi-servant replacing on of the 14 and a lot more it's hard to people fit that in the whole show, tbh I think they needed to make it at least 2 seasons both with 24 episodes to give a lot of the characters that were brushed aside more time for us to be attached to them
The anime is very misleading. La Pucelle is basically the eternal fire for life, due to Jeanne's fame, it is actually the most destructive force in Type Moon universe which even surpass Enuma Elish, so the only way to stop it is to basically destroy space itself.
@@googagag2174 I think you're confusing poetic flavor text with actual effects. Ea's description makes it sound like it should be able to rewrite the texture of the world, yet it is barely able to scratch it
As for La Pucelle apparent underperformance, my personal headcanon is that it is mainly due to two things: 1) Jeanne was victim of an improper summoning, thanks to Amakusa iirc. As such, it is possible that her abilities were affected. 2) Jeanne was summoned by the grail and used La Pucelle against it. This results in a contradiction. Da Vinci in one of her sermons says that even if a Anti-Planet noble phantasm were to exist, it would not be able to destroy Gaia because there are countermeasures at play already when a Servant is summoned by the world. So it is likely that La Pucelle as a conceptual attack was downgraded because of that.
@@googagag2174 EA can destroy space if it is a reality marble like UBW, but not the actual space itself. Thus became known the name anti-marble noble phantasm.
@@saturnv2419 actually EA doesn't destroy space it strips away the conceptual layers of existance that seperate the world as we know it from the core of Gaia, that's why it's so effective against reality marbles as they are just an enforced conceptual layer brought about by a lesser entity rather than by the world itself, the reverse side of the world and the world of man in the common era are both essentially reality marbles, reverse side is Gaia's reality marble and modern world is Alaya's
Can't really hate Sieg, dude did what he could considering the terrible cards he was handed in his life, and made the most out of his life. Am I butthurt that he managed to earn the affection of the Fate version of the most wonderful woman to have ever lived? Of course I am. Then again, I'm sure I'd have felt the same regardless of who ended up with her. Actually, if she was wasted on Shirou, I'm sure I'd be even angrier.
Wasted on Shirou?? As bad as his suicidal ways are I will still say that that man is a wonderful catch for all the ladies out there. Especially when you know what he is gonna look like as an adult.
@@nathankrizbai2131 Jeanne is a saber face, all 'saberfaces' are just characters with the same face as Artoria aka the first saber we see and it doesn't have to be the same class. If you took away all the thing that made a saber face different from others... Hair, facial armour etc it's the same face
Shiro Amakusa started the largest and last rebellion against Tokugawa Shigunate for the sake of Christians, and failed He has the legitimate cause to save the humanity.
As a frenchman the idea of Jeanne being in any relationship not God is incredibly outrageous in my mind, she is litteraly a Saint known for being Pucelle whose love for France and God went above her very life and died as Martyr for this. But on the other hand Fate made her this beautiful, and gave Gilles the best moment of his myth, aka whenever he was with Jeanne, for only someone like Jeanne would see the good in a scoundrel like him (he was never a good person, Jeanne brought the best out of him)
Real talk, wouldn't this fight go on forever? Both are rulers, both have unlimited command spells. This honestly looks like a battle of attrition so wouldn't there be no end?
@@disgustinggirlslookingatyo1853 but we're talking about fate/apocrypha here? So what's with fgo? It's a game so jt can't integrated the real skillsets of every servant. Do you want EMIYA to have 7 turn evade or 7 stacked up def buff?
Real talk? La Pucelle would burn everything anyway. It is conceptually stronger than many servants and you’d need protective Noble Phantasms on the level of Achilles’ immortality, or Karna’s armor, just to withstand the flames.
It's was eons, it was the same with Shirou and Arthoria, they had to wait/walk for eternity so that there is the small possibility of them being reunited.
@@johnz3535 still both Shirou and Jeanne were able to be reunited with Artoria and Sieg. It's believed by fans that the Fairies of Avalon allowed them to enter Avalon. To increase the small percentage of being reunited with someone from the past.
I thought saint can’t love anyone they must treat everyone equal. If that big eye caster from FSNUW see this he would be mad af lol cause he love Jeanne for love time and he even gone mad after she died
@@BlackPrince24 yeah that's what the anime tries to insinuate, I could argue that once a saint always a saint, she STILL doesn't need to fall for Sieg! For me this is kind of a forced love story!
@@BlackPrince24 nope Astolfo and Sieg had bromance and I really enjoyed it. There's a lot of things I like about Nasuverse and there's a lot others that I don't.
The other guy's NP is like the antithesis of her Noble Phantasm. So like... he sucked her NP away from the Holy Grail, stopping it from burning the Grail. Basically, Guy can only used that NP because of the grail (without the grail... his NP is impossible to create as it requires a ton of energy), and his NP is the antithesis of Jeanne d'Arc's.... by sucking everything into that orb before it destroys everything.
They say homunculi don't have much emotion but what about illyasveil Von Einzbern? She was a homunculus and yet she had even more emotions than Shirou lol. Speaking of homunculi, I find it funny that the 7 homunculi and the father had more emotions and passions than Edward Elric
Truth be told I don't consider illya a homunculus. Why?... she was not artificially created but was born normally. She just inherited her homunculus traits from her mother. I mean her biological father is kiritsugu after all. She was only considered a vessel for the Grail coz she came from her mother which is the original one. Well... that's just how I see it.
Illya is the best homunculus in term of magecraft. The Einzbern family homunculus capable of holding the family magic crest and they are as good as the original human who create them. The Yggmillenia homunculus tech (create Sieg) are a super water down version of the Einzbern. In Fate (Nasuverse) only a few mage bloodlines capable of reaching the pinnacle of artificial lifeform of creating a perfect artificial life. The Einzbern was the most repute since the regular mage can't tell the difference between the homunculus to the real Einzbern family member. Another known case was Aozaki Touko, the doll master, that she create the perfect doll capable of using her magic circuit. Once she create the doll she's wonder whether she is the real Touko or the doll stand in front of her is the real Touko. She's creating a mechanism that allow the doll to fully awake and inherit her memory and magic circuit should the current body die. There's only one incident when she was killed and appear in front of her killer for pay back, which sparks the question whether the one who was just killed was the real Touko or a doll. Regardless, Touko's doll can function as a regular human mage being with full functional/enhance body, and she make a rule that she will continue to make those perfect dolls not only as spare body part, but to find comfort in the fact that she's the real "Aozaki Touko".
Probaly let's be honest seig is boring and even more of a one dimensional character than shiro and Jeanne is a better lover then all the fate root girls in my opinion sakura is kinda of a yandere rin is I forgot the word but acts all mean but actually cares which I personally find annoying and saber is ok but she gets to caught up in fights and leaves shiro behind jeanne is like a better version of saber, but seig is a worse protagonist then shiro
@@Comet_373 i might be talking out of my ass here but didnt sieg onky have a conscience for like... a month or two? It is not wonder he is 1 dimentional, he never had any time to truly develop a personality of his own and instead decided to follow jeanne's ideals much like shiro to kirisugu
John Nguyen Honestly I believe that even if he had lived multiple years his personality probably wouldn’t have changed. At birth he had a adults mentality and a child’s innocence he experienced so much more than the average human does in their entire life in a short amount of time and still didn’t change that much.
Same here, I don't like him either. Is like they making Jeanne out of purposely just to be in love with him. what actually is, Jeanne is caring him and looking him as a child who just new born, however the creator out of mind and so intended to made it into romance. Is okay don't force yourself to make a romance plus is no necessary and now disgusting. People came for their waifu(Jeanne) but creator make a worst decision. Good thing all credit go to Mordred(Waifu Material) . BTW I didn't watch much of Jeanne side whenever sieg is there.
To be honest, i don't like Sieg, not because he hog's Jeanne tho. If he's a better character (not as bland and influenced his allies to make some mediocre decisions) I don't really mind if he ends up w/ Jeanne
@@kingofheroesgilgamesh6778 sorry i was rude. I was so toxic because of the fact that so much people hate Sieg just because anime was rushed so they don't really get his character. In light novel they can actually see him develops and understand why he takes up the sword. While in the anime side characters shines even more than him.
The reason to hate sieg ? Cause that patheric being dare to spam Bagmulg toward Karna and plot-armored to win the battle, where tf he hid the blade? In the ass ? There's no way that thing defeat the great Karna without tricking. But at the end of the day, you have every reason to hate sieg, just hate it with passion for the sake of that piece of shit
The flames destroy anything... it can eve destroy the Holy Grail, so nope. The only reason why it was stopped was because it was sucked into a noble phantasm, by a guy that also died at the stakes.
My god I really hate shirou and his stupid idea. Can't he just wish for the good guys to have a guardian angel to protect them instead of going straight to removing sin altogether.
I dont like this ending...they make a indirectly insult to Jeanne (real life jeanne d'arc)just because jeanne likes sieg 2 reasons Sieg isnt even 1 month old which means they make Jeanne a Pedo(which saints would love everyone the same+he is a homunculi...something not created from GOD in what she believes) 2. Why the fuck would her get married with "furry"(sieg dragon)?????? They literally made her a joke A pedo and a "furry" indirectly jeanne irl insult(because anime jeanne is a adaption of the in real life jeanne)...im not a christian but im sure christian people doesnt have a good like of this but the other things are good... But pretty forced love history.
I really find beautiful that they integrated Jeanne's faith in her design without being offensive. La Pucelle is so tragic as a NP, yet terribly poetic
It symbolizes Jeanne still having faith to the Lord even though she was burned. It is tragic yet so beautiful at the same time like you said.
😭😭😭
Because its not the Lords fault, but the people acusing her
They sexualize Jeanne more in FGO.
That’s deep bro
I absolutely love the fact that Fate/Apocrypha made Jeanne's faith a strong part of her character, but handled it in a mature way where it didn't come off as preachy or over the top.
Facts
they did the same with solomon when he uses his ars nova
@@Redd-Monarch I mean they are biblical characters so obviously they will be very religious 💀
@@Redd-Monarch They both claimed to personally meet God anyway. Jeane heard his sigh, while Solomon was gifted the 10 rings.
Its because it was less church feeling and more "I believe in God and I respect your choice not too"
La Pucelle is a literal Divine Flames that capable to burn literally anything. It should be one of the few Noble Phantasm capable to burn Holy Grail along with everything in the room as the flames is backed by the literal God.
That movement is supposed to be suicidal, swallowing everything in the blink of an eye as it cleanses through divine fire everything blemish in this world.
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Excalibur NP has already done the job once
@@williammbollombassy1778 and la Pucelle can do it way easier and with the greater grail (way different than the one in Fsn)
@@williammbollombassy1778 In raw power, fully unsealed Excalibur wins by a landslide. But in pure concept, as long as Jeanne believes deep down in her heart that whatever stands before her must be destroyed for the sake of the world, then La Pucelle will destroy it, even if it means destroying Excalibur. In a way it's similar to Lord Camelot, the ultimate defensive NP.
@@kusanagi-no-tachi5303 What is the characteristic of Lord Camelot ?
Heavens, the sky; they tell of the God's glory
Shining bright gold; they both proclaim His handiwork
Speeches poured forth from Crepuscular rays during the warmth of days under the sun
While wisdom drowns plights through the night before the moon returns dawn
A fire ignites in my heart
Continuously burning like stars
Reminding me of the flames and ash
But soon new buds will bloom
This ring of white flowers
I watch all their sins scorched by the crimson embers
Petals caught in a dance of inferno
Even my wings can't last in their divine rapture
Let despair bring hope
This is where I meet my fate's end
My destiny now runs its ephemeral course
My life's dream has reached its conclusion now
Utilizing all I have left
Protect his path
My Lord, accept my essential sacrifice
O' Lord, I entrust this body to you-
La Pucelle
finally a good comment
✨👑🏆 *"CROWNED COMMENT"* 🏆👑✨
Is that the full NP chant?
I believe this is from the Fate/Apocrypha novel?
That last part: "O Lord, I entrust my body to You."
Jesus Christ: "Into Your hands, Father, I commend my spirit."
Both were the last things said before they "perished".
Fate is just too epic man
Better than anything the west can make up
@@JustSumGuy01 w
I think this is one of the most beautiful scenes I had watched in an anime.
As a christian and devout of Saint Jeanne in real life this meant so much for me, specially that I watched in a very special moment in my life.
The FATE staff and writters, under certain parameters, done a very beautiful and respectful portrait of my beloved saint - and what meant to be a real christian, as a whole.
Somehow the Japanese can write female characters without making them obnoxious like western media.
This scene made me thought of two things: Jeanne was absolutely beautiful in this scene, and Praise da Lord.
Even da Lord cannot hold a candle to japanese shananigans ^^
Lord that has his own divine flame got sucked by Void?
台詞00:01
紅蓮の聖女発動
諸天は主の栄光に。大空は御手の業に。
昼は言葉を伝え、夜は知識を告げる。
我が心は我が内側で熱し、思い続けるほどに燃ゆる。
我が終わりは此処に。我が命数を此処に。
我が命の儚さを此処に。
残された唯一つの物を以て、彼の歩みを守らせ給え。
主よ、この身を委ねます
Thank you for this reply, I’ve been looking for someone to translate this so I can learn the Japanese version
I love the Fate Series for reminding us of so many past heroes.
I like how even if Gilles was Amakusa's servant, Jean managed to convert him to her side
No, he was one of Shakespeare’s dolls created by his NP. But he regained his own will before Shakespeare managed to destroy Jeanne’s mind.
She used Wololo on fake Gilles.
Well it helps he was devoted to her in life so he had plenty of reasons to turn to her side.
Heck the guy as shown here can even wield jeanne's banner
Jeanne was close to Gilles when they were alive.
In FATE universe, they were best friends.
So, that's logical that she could convert to her side.
@@RulerAlter another thing that i liked was how jeanne not treated him like the monster that he is and instead give him a way of redemption
imagine La Pucelle as her NP and probably a Buster type instead of the Arts Luminosite Eternelle in FGO :|
As well as being a suicide attack Broken Phantasm like Stella
Saber Jeanne when, DW? xD
The system of NP on FATE GO should be acumulative NP energy, lets say it like this, at 100% you get to use Luminosite eternelle, while at 300% you get use La pucelle, with all servants should be like that, cause in the story every servant have more than 1 NP, check Akhilles, that would add a little more strategy cause, if you use luminosite, you get buff and heal, while la pucelle is a dmg np but a little more harderd to get.
So you mean encourage whaling 1 servant to NP5?
@@shiwwee2386 you can whale or you can just np chain, its easier and cheaper, dont you think?
Hm...dunno...
Jeanne is the reason I decided to watch Fate Apocrypha
As someone who is a devout Christian, this scene really got to me.
I can imagine, the ammount of tears and hope you Probably had my man
I feel you!!!!
@@thomascochran7907 I don't want to be a dick either but neither of these saints consider themselves saint at all. All they see themselves are a man and a woman fighting for what they believe in. The Lord is impartial. The scale of deeds will be balanced in the hereafter, but right now it's their fight. This scene is no difference from you taking a knife to defend your family from a thief that needs to feed his family, just bigger in scale and with black holes and hellfire instead of knives.
@@straypaper fair enough
Same for me
3:17 that smile, that damn smile
shirou :so i looking for a hot lady king , you?
joan: a handsome dragon
shirou: we really have a taste ,good luck with yours
joan: ah thank you good luck to
*Hot lady dragon king since saber has a dragon core in her
Merlin watching over the distance
@@kyleroman2744 merlin be like:wtf wrong with y'all? And why is Jeanne a pedo?
@Idk Merlin: Oh, it just some humunculus stuff going on. Please do continue, don't mind me.
I love how she activates her Noble and the music changes with her Monolog after that. And the Pose.. nnnnhg
This scene will always be gorgeous and tragic. It's almost perfect, in a way. The music, the aesthetic, the atmosphere, Jeanne's piety, Amakusa Shirou's desperation, etc. It's one of the highlights of this show for me alongside Sieg vs. Karna, Chiron vs. Achilles, Jeanne's Luminosite Eternelle and Mordred vs. Semiramis personally.
Though something interesting is that the clash between the Noble Phantasms in the original light novel was far more intense and closer: from what I could understand of the untranslated Volume 5 of the F/Apocrypha LN, the clash was described as something that was going to destroy space(? Definitely not outer space space lol) due to the clashing of the 2 powerful NPs. Something that was the equivalent of God saying "Let there be light!". Not to mention that La Pucelle actually managed to regain momentum, briiiiiiiiiefly overpowered Big Crunch, and some of the flames of the Conceptual Weapon managed to reach the Great Holy Grail, destroying 80% of it. It made you genuinely believe that Amakusa Shirou was going to fail his goal for the salvation of humanity, only for Jeanne to fall just a hair short.
It's interesting how different both the A-1 anime and the source material depict the events. Not that I am complaining in this case.
P.S: Honestly, after the Apocrypha re-run, I hope I'm not the only that kind of frowns whenever peeps say they hate Sieg. He might not have the depth of Shirou or Kiritsugu, but he's still a good boy. :(
I also felt his simplicity to the point that he was happy just that Fujimaru called him a friend at the end, only those who have known loneliness for ages understand the value of memories or friendship as much as he does. And at the end of the event again another sad end for him, by creating the Sieg terminal and having him help Fujimaru in Chaldea when needed, it would not be himself (The Dragon version) who would be there, as the two bodies became separated and disconnected over time, only the memories of that adventure in that world remaining (At least they could show a Flasback with Jeanne and him meeting afterwards).
I also don't understand why many people hate Sieg, he is just a homunculus who decided to learn more about life and wanted to live, not all characters need to have the best background, I believe that in Apocrypha the protagonist in fact were all the participants of that war of the Holy Grail, not only Sieg or Jeanne, but the Show itself.
This man is one of my people
@@jefffgo7154 probably the fact that he win over karna and guess what jeanne love him
Sho ten wa shu no eikō ni.
Ōzora wa mitenowaza ni.
Hiru wa kotoba o tsutae, yoru wa chishiki o tsugeru.
Waga kokoro wa
waga uchigawa de nesshi,
omoi tsudzukeru hodo ni moyuru.
Waga owari wa koko ni.
Waga meisū o koko ni.
Waga inochi no hakana-sa o koko ni.
Nokosa reta yuiitsutsu no mono o motte,
Ka no ayumi o mamora se tamae.
Shu ~yo, kono mi o yudanemasu
For this moment I go same as Gilles for Jeanne
I always like to think that ending scene with seig is the opening up of the grand order where they're singularity is created and the event begins
I'm deeply sorry for all of you guys but as epic of a moment this scene can be, my french ass can't handle seeing and hearing Jeanne proudly yelling "the virgin" (yes "la pucelle" means "the virgin") this is just too funny to go with such animation
Well that just ruined one of my favorite games from my childhood, La Pucelle Tactics
In French dub she says: "Je suis la Pucelle!", which means "I am a Virgin!"...
...and as funny as it may seem, there is a very clear intention behind this from writers perspective. Female virgins and children were considered purest human beings in Christian culture in Medieval Ages (which is Jeanne's historical period). She declares purity of her beliefs by stating she's a virgin. It's even better when you remember that Jeanne's virginity was checked multiple times by maidens during her trial for "heresy" and she was proved to be a virgin despite false accusations of consorting with the devil itself.
@@MrSagaTeller thanks for clarifying this point ! Still is funny as hell but when put in context, it is a statement of her faith and how christian she is
@@twistedpivoter2695 You're welcome, I also smirk when I watch this. Yet after some research I am amazed how all characters in Apocrypha are true to their historical/mythical selves or are at least well done variations of them.
Sorry but it is basically a part of her story. She is basically a more modern Saint and is supposed to be a holy virgin, since she was beckoned by God when she was basically a child. She herself apparently used the title, and there was an obvious tactical benefit to it since it implies God selected her as a Holy Maiden.
So basically, yes it sounds weird but it is very much accurate according to her well known story.
Sieg...the main problem of Fate/Apocrypha (the anime) was that...it was rushed...badly. There were so many characters within the show that barely get any screen time...best example Atalanta who got screwed badly. In fact, in the Manga...Sieg's character got explored and actually explains why he took up the sword. Like he actually became likable as a character due to how much he develops...we get none of them within the Anime as it rushed as hell.
Yeah but it was pretty epic tho so I can't hate 🔥💯
Yeah, the main problem is that it's only like 24 episodes, so combined that with 14 servants, 2 rules, and one that becomes a demi-servant replacing on of the 14 and a lot more it's hard to people fit that in the whole show, tbh I think they needed to make it at least 2 seasons both with 24 episodes to give a lot of the characters that were brushed aside more time for us to be attached to them
Im glad at least it had 24 ep, imagine if they try to fit everything in 12, they will fk up more lol
At least it ain't as bad as Fate Stay Night where either the characters die too fast or become one note characters
@@BlackPrince24 You are talking about the original one right? The Old one? Not the unlimited Bladeworks?
The anime is very misleading. La Pucelle is basically the eternal fire for life, due to Jeanne's fame, it is actually the most destructive force in Type Moon universe which even surpass Enuma Elish, so the only way to stop it is to basically destroy space itself.
That does make sense but ea exists.Ea can destroy time and space.
@@googagag2174 I think you're confusing poetic flavor text with actual effects. Ea's description makes it sound like it should be able to rewrite the texture of the world, yet it is barely able to scratch it
As for La Pucelle apparent underperformance, my personal headcanon is that it is mainly due to two things:
1) Jeanne was victim of an improper summoning, thanks to Amakusa iirc. As such, it is possible that her abilities were affected.
2) Jeanne was summoned by the grail and used La Pucelle against it. This results in a contradiction. Da Vinci in one of her sermons says that even if a Anti-Planet noble phantasm were to exist, it would not be able to destroy Gaia because there are countermeasures at play already when a Servant is summoned by the world. So it is likely that La Pucelle as a conceptual attack was downgraded because of that.
@@googagag2174 EA can destroy space if it is a reality marble like UBW, but not the actual space itself. Thus became known the name anti-marble noble phantasm.
@@saturnv2419 actually EA doesn't destroy space it strips away the conceptual layers of existance that seperate the world as we know it from the core of Gaia, that's why it's so effective against reality marbles as they are just an enforced conceptual layer brought about by a lesser entity rather than by the world itself, the reverse side of the world and the world of man in the common era are both essentially reality marbles, reverse side is Gaia's reality marble and modern world is Alaya's
This reminds me of Danmachi: Arrow of Orion ending, where Bell(Orion) and Artemis promised to see each other again in 10,000 years.
Everybody gangsta until the holy maiden becomes the most powerful glass cannon with the literal power of god
I’ve watched so much anime ruler is one character I’ll never forget
Am I the only one who actually liked Sieg. Even if it's not for what he is but rather for what he did and what he believed in?
Saber: *when will there be my goodly animated loving part ;-;*
As a Catholic, I love this
Can't really hate Sieg, dude did what he could considering the terrible cards he was handed in his life, and made the most out of his life.
Am I butthurt that he managed to earn the affection of the Fate version of the most wonderful woman to have ever lived? Of course I am. Then again, I'm sure I'd have felt the same regardless of who ended up with her. Actually, if she was wasted on Shirou, I'm sure I'd be even angrier.
Wasted on Shirou?? As bad as his suicidal ways are I will still say that that man is a wonderful catch for all the ladies out there. Especially when you know what he is gonna look like as an adult.
I'm betting any money that he will attract all versions of Saber faces, including all the versions of Artoria.
@@thebakalord Jeanne isn't a saberface tho.
@@nathankrizbai2131 Jeanne is a saber face, all 'saberfaces' are just characters with the same face as Artoria aka the first saber we see and it doesn't have to be the same class. If you took away all the thing that made a saber face different from others... Hair, facial armour etc it's the same face
I wish they just left her as badass
just remembered unlimited blade works
And the fact that she burned in her own np symbolized when she's burned alive in her past life is..daymn
Whenever I hear that dun dun dunnnnnn sound, I think of Yugi summoning Exodia.
Shiro Amakusa started the largest and last rebellion against Tokugawa Shigunate for the sake of Christians, and failed
He has the legitimate cause to save the humanity.
I really like fate apocrypha sieg is one of my favorite characters
What a poetic suicidal NP related to her history
As a frenchman the idea of Jeanne being in any relationship not God is incredibly outrageous in my mind, she is litteraly a Saint known for being Pucelle whose love for France and God went above her very life and died as Martyr for this.
But on the other hand Fate made her this beautiful, and gave Gilles the best moment of his myth, aka whenever he was with Jeanne, for only someone like Jeanne would see the good in a scoundrel like him (he was never a good person, Jeanne brought the best out of him)
La Pucelle de la Orleans, truly a beautiful yet tragic story! And La Pucelle is just as tragic!😭😭😭
Bueno, no hay aún un anime Shonen, pero nos queda la Juanita de Fate Apocrypha xd
Real talk, wouldn't this fight go on forever?
Both are rulers, both have unlimited command spells.
This honestly looks like a battle of attrition so wouldn't there be no end?
The thing is La Pucelle signifies the very flames that burnt Jeanne to death. So the grail make it as a suicidal Noble Phantasm ranked EX
@@Asphyx12 i playing Fate Grand Order but thats second Noble Phantasm only for Jeane Alter Version Class Avenger
@@disgustinggirlslookingatyo1853 but we're talking about fate/apocrypha here? So what's with fgo? It's a game so jt can't integrated the real skillsets of every servant. Do you want EMIYA to have 7 turn evade or 7 stacked up def buff?
Real talk? La Pucelle would burn everything anyway. It is conceptually stronger than many servants and you’d need protective Noble Phantasms on the level of Achilles’ immortality, or Karna’s armor, just to withstand the flames.
It's the flame of purgatory, very ironic I must say to the fact she was once burned and got burned again by it LoL.
Im still curious to this day. After Seig took the Grail how many years has passed after? Centuries, a millenia?
Yes
It's was eons, it was the same with Shirou and Arthoria, they had to wait/walk for eternity so that there is the small possibility of them being reunited.
@@thebakalord worst trade deal in the history of trade deals
@@johnz3535 still both Shirou and Jeanne were able to be reunited with Artoria and Sieg. It's believed by fans that the Fairies of Avalon allowed them to enter Avalon. To increase the small percentage of being reunited with someone from the past.
@@thebakalord only if you choose saber route in FSN, if you go UBW or HF then it is gg
I really wanna see Amakusa having a chat with Goetia:
Amakusa: “Do not underestimate my 60 years of obsession!”
Goetia: “60 years? Oh.. child.”
Good thing that Goetia was not a summonable as a servant
Despite being surrounded by other beliefs and gods, her faith remains strong
Wait, noone gonna talk about Shirou NP absorb all that La pucelle
I thought saint can’t love anyone they must treat everyone equal. If that big eye caster from FSNUW see this he would be mad af lol cause he love Jeanne for love time and he even gone mad after she died
If you have watched the anime, then you'd know that she fought with her ideals of a saint vs being in love.
She doesn't really need to uphold those ideals at this point.
@@BlackPrince24 yeah that's what the anime tries to insinuate, I could argue that once a saint always a saint, she STILL doesn't need to fall for Sieg! For me this is kind of a forced love story!
@@uselesshero.official I can see how it's forced but I can also see it working.
Thing is that Astolfo felt more like a lover than her lol
@@BlackPrince24 nope Astolfo and Sieg had bromance and I really enjoyed it. There's a lot of things I like about Nasuverse and there's a lot others that I don't.
This actually makes me want to see a priest reacting to christian noble phantasms
When a Catholic fights a Episcopal and her boyfriend
Amakusa VA did a really good job in this fight against Jeanne
I don't understand why she lost, but im new in Fate so i may need at least a couple years to catch up with what happens
The other guy's NP is like the antithesis of her Noble Phantasm. So like... he sucked her NP away from the Holy Grail, stopping it from burning the Grail.
Basically, Guy can only used that NP because of the grail (without the grail... his NP is impossible to create as it requires a ton of energy), and his NP is the antithesis of Jeanne d'Arc's.... by sucking everything into that orb before it destroys everything.
They say homunculi don't have much emotion but what about illyasveil Von Einzbern? She was a homunculus and yet she had even more emotions than Shirou lol. Speaking of homunculi, I find it funny that the 7 homunculi and the father had more emotions and passions than Edward Elric
Illya lived an entire life as an human, learning. And she was special being, the daughter between a human and a homunculus
Retribution X tf you talking about bruh
Truth be told I don't consider illya a homunculus. Why?... she was not artificially created but was born normally. She just inherited her homunculus traits from her mother. I mean her biological father is kiritsugu after all. She was only considered a vessel for the Grail coz she came from her mother which is the original one. Well... that's just how I see it.
Illya is the best homunculus in term of magecraft. The Einzbern family homunculus capable of holding the family magic crest and they are as good as the original human who create them. The Yggmillenia homunculus tech (create Sieg) are a super water down version of the Einzbern.
In Fate (Nasuverse) only a few mage bloodlines capable of reaching the pinnacle of artificial lifeform of creating a perfect artificial life. The Einzbern was the most repute since the regular mage can't tell the difference between the homunculus to the real Einzbern family member.
Another known case was Aozaki Touko, the doll master, that she create the perfect doll capable of using her magic circuit. Once she create the doll she's wonder whether she is the real Touko or the doll stand in front of her is the real Touko. She's creating a mechanism that allow the doll to fully awake and inherit her memory and magic circuit should the current body die. There's only one incident when she was killed and appear in front of her killer for pay back, which sparks the question whether the one who was just killed was the real Touko or a doll. Regardless, Touko's doll can function as a regular human mage being with full functional/enhance body, and she make a rule that she will continue to make those perfect dolls not only as spare body part, but to find comfort in the fact that she's the real "Aozaki Touko".
Illya had at least 18 years to develop emotions and such
I love the fact that as an observer she's biased
Hope we can get this np of hers
She did all of that just for Amakusa to reflect her fireball and kill her with it. Such wasted potential.
So you hate Sieg because he gets to eternally plow Jeanne D Arc?
Probaly let's be honest seig is boring and even more of a one dimensional character than shiro and Jeanne is a better lover then all the fate root girls in my opinion sakura is kinda of a yandere rin is I forgot the word but acts all mean but actually cares which I personally find annoying and saber is ok but she gets to caught up in fights and leaves shiro behind jeanne is like a better version of saber, but seig is a worse protagonist then shiro
Comet Gamer I agree with everything you said and the word your looking for is Tsundre.
@@Comet_373 i might be talking out of my ass here but didnt sieg onky have a conscience for like... a month or two? It is not wonder he is 1 dimentional, he never had any time to truly develop a personality of his own and instead decided to follow jeanne's ideals much like shiro to kirisugu
@@justsomerandomanimefan1135 yup that's the word lol
John Nguyen Honestly I believe that even if he had lived multiple years his personality probably wouldn’t have changed. At birth he had a adults mentality and a child’s innocence he experienced so much more than the average human does in their entire life in a short amount of time and still didn’t change that much.
I read to much Jeanne and jalter hentai, that sometimes i forgot that she is holy maiden...
I just realised its a french and a german couple nice
French and Half German Half Romanian couple since he was made in Romania if memory serves well
I love Jeanne
Pucelle mean virgin in french, I just burst a laugh watching her scream it
Same here, I don't like him either. Is like they making Jeanne out of purposely just to be in love with him. what actually is, Jeanne is caring him and looking him as a child who just new born, however the creator out of mind and so intended to made it into romance. Is okay don't force yourself to make a romance plus is no necessary and now disgusting. People came for their waifu(Jeanne) but creator make a worst decision. Good thing all credit go to Mordred(Waifu Material) . BTW I didn't watch much of Jeanne side whenever sieg is there.
can we have angry Jeanne now (Jalter)
Eu não entendi o por que de você odiar ele
Por que que diabos você odeia sieg?
ele fez algo de errado?
Sieg is very beautiful. 💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙💛💙
Shoutout to my boi Gilles
My waifu❤long live jeanne 😍
The only thing that scene needed to be perfect was an english opponent :)
To be honest, i don't like Sieg, not because he hog's Jeanne tho. If he's a better character (not as bland and influenced his allies to make some mediocre decisions) I don't really mind if he ends up w/ Jeanne
In light novel his character is actually good and likable. Srsly fuck this anime adaptation man
@@kaikibestgrill4986 Glad to know that
@@kingofheroesgilgamesh6778 sorry i was rude. I was so toxic because of the fact that so much people hate Sieg just because anime was rushed so they don't really get his character. In light novel they can actually see him develops and understand why he takes up the sword. While in the anime side characters shines even more than him.
I don't even believe in god but this is still so remarkable
That best ost
it was her choice you know.............
Evil Shiro
Grande Sieg :´v my ship!!!!!!!
Jeann isn't virgin anymore
Cap istg sieg said to jeanne "whats the meaning of love?" After leaving
She is already dead, its her spirit from them on taking various forms, she is a paradoxical Pucelle haha
What's the name of the ost during 0:46?
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Fate/Apocrypha-Battle
泣いて良いか？
what if FGO gave her a 2nd NP if you user her 3rd ascension that basically turns her into an SSR arash🤔
The reason to hate sieg ? Cause that patheric being dare to spam Bagmulg toward Karna and plot-armored to win the battle, where tf he hid the blade? In the ass ? There's no way that thing defeat the great Karna without tricking. But at the end of the day, you have every reason to hate sieg, just hate it with passion for the sake of that piece of shit
So saint is just ancestor of Gojo Sensei using blue plus red Purple orb 😭
I have a quastion Can rho aias stop these flames?
Nah, it shouldn't
The flames destroy anything... it can eve destroy the Holy Grail, so nope.
The only reason why it was stopped was because it was sucked into a noble phantasm, by a guy that also died at the stakes.
she really copied the epic STEALLAAAA move
My god I really hate shirou and his stupid idea. Can't he just wish for the good guys to have a guardian angel to protect them instead of going straight to removing sin altogether.
I still dont know why you hate Sieg
So you hate Sieg because he gets the cutest girl in Fate? Ill Support that hate!!
Nope. I hate him because he get Astolfo
@@JustSumGuy01 A man of culture I see
He doesnt literally i can bet he said "whats the meaning of love"to jeanne before leaving
ちゃんとアルビノなら鼻で笑う
What the episode
Ep 24 i think. The last one
+1LIKE!
0:48
There's no reason for hate. That's the best part of sieg 👌
The ost?
Fate/Apocrypha - Battle
what about the first part? when she's chanting the words of La Pucelle? I cannot find it for the life of me
I've been looking EVERYwhere to no avail, did you have any luck?
That ost is part of the Second volume of the ost of Fate/Apocrypha that will be release on March 23th
Grand War
他にいない漢字を探した結果こうなる
청련화ㅎㅇ.
I hate this scene,, a 2nd NP is so cool and all, but then it ended so easily and badly
おじさんゲスゴリラw
I dont like this ending...they make a indirectly insult to Jeanne (real life jeanne d'arc)just because jeanne likes sieg
2 reasons
Sieg isnt even 1 month old which means they make Jeanne a Pedo(which saints would love everyone the same+he is a homunculi...something not created from GOD in what she believes)
2. Why the fuck would her get married with "furry"(sieg dragon)?????? They literally made her a joke
A pedo and a "furry" indirectly jeanne irl insult(because anime jeanne is a adaption of the in real life jeanne)...im not a christian but im sure christian people doesnt have a good like of this but the other things are good... But pretty forced love history.
つかさとかツバサとか
名前被るな
士郎ゲスゴリラ
士郎ゲスゴリラw
What a boring fight
Boring fight, but conceptually one of the most beautiful
So it's basically a bankai for her thag kills her in the end after the usage?
士郎ゲスゴリラw