I've never heard or played ANYTHING that compares to a Yamaha digital piano. I have on old Clavinova stage piano from the 90's (pf P-100) that to this day sounds better than any Roland, Nord or Korg out there. Korg has incredible synthesis engines, but when it comes to the heart of the stage piano - the PIANO - nothing beats Yamaha.
Kawai´s flagship and high end digital pianos compete against the Yamaha and some of their models blow Yamaha out of the water (MP11SE, CA99, both sound fantastic). Having said that, Nord also pulls no punches when it comes to piano sounds, action not as good though
I was considering the Nord but I think for that amount of money it leaves a lot to be desired in the quality control department. I’ve seen everything from broken knobs out of the box to loose keys and the like. And for $4000-$5000? Forget it, I’m not taking the risk. The Roland RD2000 was another challenger but I went with the CP88.
@@CygnusRoc Absolutely right. Nord cutting corners by installing those crappy Fatar keybeds and keeping their prices insanely high. Even the Nord Grand does not feature a top notch action, what a joke. Soundwise are pretty good though. The CP88 is a wonderful instrument and sounds impressive.
Are nord stages so expensive because of the hype? They seem pretty awesome, and I've always wanted one, but if I can get something similar for way cheaper, I'll just do that. Is the Yamaha CP the best replacement of a nord stage?
Its supposed to have 4 external zones, which is extremely important in a world where hardware and software go together, but no way to controll them? No buttons? So till there the basic idea of no menu diving...
Just turning on the chorus effect mate. Showing what each person can create from the stock sounds.... which are great but as you said, some of the effects are awesome.
I have purchased the Yamaha CP88 and am facing the choice of speakers for a studio/small area setting. Its either a pair of Yamaha HS8 monitors or a single QSC 10.2. What would be your recommendation? Thank you.
Syed Hasnain I’ve got a pair of QSC 10.2’s for my Montage 8. It’s a perfect set up the speakers make perfect floor monitors or for front of house. They sound excellent at low volume at home and they can get very loud with fantastic clarity. I bought these based on a review in Keyboard magazine. You won’t regret it! ☺️
Not for the guys using nord for organ on the electro or stage. The CP88 might compare favorably to the Piano 3 or 4. Not sure how the finger boards compare, but each have good models and advantages.
I see this thing has a line input. Can you connect a microphone directly? Will it be fed the same settings from the master section? Is there a way of setting up a gain on it?
Imho - YAMAHA always beats Nord as a stand alone piano. I’ve never enjoyed playing the Nord on stage - But I agree - WAY too much reverb on this demo !
Ah, ah, world really weird.... Roland copied Yamaha Montage look with its RD 2000 and Yamaha copied Nord Stage. What will Nord Keyboards copy on its next exit? The Italian Dexibell ? ah ah ah
Hey Guys! cool vid! I'm planning to get one, BUT! I'm confused which one to get. =( i love both variants. how does the Montage8 keyboard touch, compare with the CP88 and CP73?
The problem with the CP88/73 is that Yamaha puts so much effort into trying not to 'cannibalize' their other products that they gimp every single thing they make in some significant way and target it for a very specific niche. This could have been THE digital piano to buy, but they left out VRM and have poor decay/sustain which makes the acoustic pianos useless for anything except performing live with a muddy mix in a noisy bar (which I'm sure was the intent in the original design brief). No solo playing, no recording, not even stage concerts. Instead of buying this from Yamaha, I will have to go elsewhere. They're trying to force me to buy a P-515 and a CP88, but instead I will probably buy neither. A simple software update adding VRM would guarantee that I buy a CP88.
No my friend! Sound is very good and high quality but not enough to be really like a piano, not enough organic. Upright piano not bad! Real piano have a lot of characters. Nord Clavia have very good piano,e piano and organs that are very close to natural sound, especially last samples wich you can download from official site! From VST Keyscape from Spectrasonics, for example!
The $2999 Nord Piano 4 is no king! Doesn’t cost $2499 Doesn’t have drawbars. Doesn’t 2 Channel USB Audio/MIDI interface Doesn’t have a good organ sound Doesn’t have 128 voices Polyphony Doesn’t have 2 x XLR (balanced) Doesn’t have Triple-sensor NW-GH (Natural Wood Graded Hammer) keyboard, synthetic ebony and ivory keytops
@@judsonchristudas Thanks man.. I know that Nord use s many samples from lots of different piano makers... their Yamaha Bright sample is amazing... your reply has nothing to do with what I said and is just the usual random angry dude reply for no reason. But thanks because it makes you feel better and that's what counts! :)
@@neilloughran4437 Not only one piano C7 grand, CFX and many. You just commented the samples aren't good. It means you have no idea what Actual pianos sounds like. It's clear that these people are using compressor on Mixer and the mixing is crap in this video. Just go to a store and play it for yourself and comment mate. It cuts through the mix really well. I've played it as well. *Yours was just a random moron hate comment about Yamaha. Ignorance is natural. It's okay!
MusikOne Right but the keyboard on the CP88 is infinitely better and you can load tons of sounds onto it by midi or other means. Yamaha is also adding sounds through updates.
Yeah.... i used to make those comparisons between keyboards too, .... when i was 14....:P Now i'm all grown up and i've learned a long time ago, that most of the time, less is more!
If actual Piano is what you are after the Roland has the worst action of any available almost. Mp11se/CP4/CP88 and into Nord, if you can get a good deal and it isn't broken on arrival lol. RD2000 lol, its as outdated as the Korg RH3.
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I can think of at least 10 reasons this can’t “beat” Nord. It looks like a fantastic board, but let’s get really honest here about marketing ploys. Also, with all due respect, Yamaha needs a better player/spokesperson to demonstrate these instruments.
I don't care about the bells and whistles of this thing... I have zero use for split; that's what bandmates are for. I just want a good sounding piano. Not entirely sold on this board. I've yet to play a Yamaha as solid as the CP 33 / 300 EDIT: Might I add... I hope the action is improved from the CP4. I had those POS fake balsa wood keys getting stuck in clumps.
I tested the CP73 out today (for an hour) and all of the ORGANS are embarrassingly abysmal!; honestly. I hope Yamaha are able to improve on this, because I would otherwise have bought it.
@@nezkeys79 I understand that. But it's still a drag to have to carry a second keyboard just for an organ sound! Plus, I thought Yamaha were trying to get the edge on Nord? How can this be so when they can't even produce one single Hammond patch?
@@monsterjazzlicks indomt carry ot just for an organ sound...it plays brass strings woodwind organ clav synths drums lol. If it has the best piano sounds to my ears its a no brainer. I dont care if it doesnt have an organ lol. My left hand will play piano and right hand the keyboard lines
@@nezkeys79 If organs are not an issue then I would recommend it. It is better than the Nord because you can fit about TEN pianos on instead of just two, which is pathetic thesedayes - hence I sold my Nord last year.
You do realize there are great organ modules you can get if you need dedicated proper Hammond sounds without actually needing to get another keyboard, right....? No one keyboard by one brand will be excellent (for everyone) in every single sound. This is s STAGE PIANO, so the main focus (and the majority sample memory allocation and resources), will be on acoustic/electric pianos. The other sounds are there just to get some quick basic bread and butter generic sounds. I really don't get this "one keyboard on stage" trend this days... Not only it looks lame, but it's also limiting. My absolute minimum on stage is two keyboards (a piano weighted one and a top semi-weighted synth type). A CP73 and a Kronos will get you all the basis covered :)
I've never heard or played ANYTHING that compares to a Yamaha digital piano.
I have on old Clavinova stage piano from the 90's (pf P-100) that to this day sounds better than any Roland, Nord or Korg out there. Korg has incredible synthesis engines, but when it comes to the heart of the stage piano - the PIANO - nothing beats Yamaha.
yes i agree, ive had the P80 and since a decade already the CP-50, still enjoy it every day.
Kawai´s flagship and high end digital pianos compete against the Yamaha and some of their models blow Yamaha out of the water (MP11SE, CA99, both sound fantastic). Having said that, Nord also pulls no punches when it comes to piano sounds, action not as good though
I was considering the Nord but I think for that amount of money it leaves a lot to be desired in the quality control department. I’ve seen everything from broken knobs out of the box to loose keys and the like. And for $4000-$5000? Forget it, I’m not taking the risk. The Roland RD2000 was another challenger but I went with the CP88.
@@CygnusRoc Absolutely right. Nord cutting corners by installing those crappy Fatar keybeds and keeping their prices insanely high. Even the Nord Grand does not feature a top notch action, what a joke. Soundwise are pretty good though. The CP88 is a wonderful instrument and sounds impressive.
Luke is a top demonstrator!
Are nord stages so expensive because of the hype? They seem pretty awesome, and I've always wanted one, but if I can get something similar for way cheaper, I'll just do that. Is the Yamaha CP the best replacement of a nord stage?
I tested the Yamaha CP73 last Wednesday for 4 hours. Very good Stage Piano! O yes my CP73 should be here 03/19/2019
Its supposed to have 4 external zones, which is extremely important in a world where hardware and software go together, but no way to controll them? No buttons? So till there the basic idea of no menu diving...
What did you press at 9:12? It sounded worse than at 9:08(which was awesome).. Then went awesome again at 9:17 when u pressed that button again
Just turning on the chorus effect mate. Showing what each person can create from the stock sounds.... which are great but as you said, some of the effects are awesome.
I have purchased the Yamaha CP88 and am facing the choice of speakers for a studio/small area setting. Its either a pair of Yamaha HS8 monitors or a single QSC 10.2. What would be your recommendation? Thank you.
Syed Hasnain I’ve got a pair of QSC 10.2’s for my Montage 8. It’s a perfect set up the speakers make perfect floor monitors or for front of house. They sound excellent at low volume at home and they can get very loud with fantastic clarity. I bought these based on a review in Keyboard magazine. You won’t regret it! ☺️
@@andreafox7267 , Thanks for that. Yes, did some experimenting and have finally decided in favor of the QSCs.
Not for the guys using nord for organ on the electro or stage. The CP88 might compare favorably to the Piano 3 or 4. Not sure how the finger boards compare, but each have good models and advantages.
He is using too much reverb.
I see this thing has a line input. Can you connect a microphone directly? Will it be fed the same settings from the master section? Is there a way of setting up a gain on it?
This Sounds awesome, Nord comes Second
He makes it too wet with reverb, but love the sound. Just would like to hear it with a more tasteful amount of verb
Imho - YAMAHA always beats Nord as a stand alone piano. I’ve never enjoyed playing the Nord on stage -
But I agree - WAY too much reverb on this demo !
Better than none...which most of these "high end" pianos seem to have
What song intro did he play at 9:8 ?
just....weird. the designs is really identical to the Nord Stage series, except with a different sounds and different buttons..
Ah, ah, world really weird.... Roland copied Yamaha Montage look with its RD 2000 and Yamaha copied Nord Stage. What will Nord Keyboards copy on its next exit? The Italian Dexibell ? ah ah ah
What about touch response?
Wich software could use to split the video into 3?
ANY video editor would do that. You just have to download the video first. I'd recomend "4k video downloader" for that.
Hey Guys! cool vid! I'm planning to get one, BUT! I'm confused which one to get. =( i love both variants. how does the Montage8 keyboard touch, compare with the CP88 and CP73?
The CP88 has a progress weighted keyboard. The CP73 has a continuous weighted keyboard.
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The problem with the CP88/73 is that Yamaha puts so much effort into trying not to 'cannibalize' their other products that they gimp every single thing they make in some significant way and target it for a very specific niche. This could have been THE digital piano to buy, but they left out VRM and have poor decay/sustain which makes the acoustic pianos useless for anything except performing live with a muddy mix in a noisy bar (which I'm sure was the intent in the original design brief). No solo playing, no recording, not even stage concerts. Instead of buying this from Yamaha, I will have to go elsewhere. They're trying to force me to buy a P-515 and a CP88, but instead I will probably buy neither. A simple software update adding VRM would guarantee that I buy a CP88.
Why arent there any layer volume faders. Thats too bad.
It uses knobs instead... but faders is a winning concept. Don't change what's already working.
Exactly, They have it on their motifs and modx, etc. but never on their stage pianos which is bizarre @@landowar2162
YC
This really sounds like a Piano.
No my friend! Sound is very good and high quality but not enough to be really like a piano, not enough organic. Upright piano not bad! Real piano have a lot of characters. Nord Clavia have very good piano,e piano and organs that are very close to natural sound, especially last samples wich you can download from official site! From VST Keyscape from Spectrasonics, for example!
Nord are overpriced junk. Mp11se is the best stage piano available at the moment.
Mr. Robot?
The $2999 Nord Piano 4 is no king!
Doesn’t cost $2499
Doesn’t have drawbars.
Doesn’t 2 Channel USB Audio/MIDI interface
Doesn’t have a good organ sound
Doesn’t have 128 voices Polyphony
Doesn’t have 2 x XLR (balanced)
Doesn’t have Triple-sensor NW-GH (Natural Wood Graded Hammer) keyboard, synthetic ebony and ivory keytops
Hmm the pianos don't sound that good to me... I think the Nord Stage series still beats this.. even the old Stage 2.
Because you have no idea!
Nord uses Yamaha Piano samples as well!
@@judsonchristudas Thanks man.. I know that Nord use s many samples from lots of different piano makers... their Yamaha Bright sample is amazing... your reply has nothing to do with what I said and is just the usual random angry dude reply for no reason. But thanks because it makes you feel better and that's what counts! :)
@@neilloughran4437 Not only one piano C7 grand, CFX and many.
You just commented the samples aren't good. It means you have no idea what Actual pianos sounds like.
It's clear that these people are using compressor on Mixer and the mixing is crap in this video. Just go to a store and play it for yourself and comment mate. It cuts through the mix really well. I've played it as well.
*Yours was just a random moron hate comment about Yamaha. Ignorance is natural. It's okay!
@@judsonchristudas I know... you know everything... you win. Have a great evening :)
Yamaha CP88 (57 sounds) $2499
Roland RD2000 (1100+ sounds) $2599
MusikOne Right but the keyboard on the CP88 is infinitely better and you can load tons of sounds onto it by midi or other means. Yamaha is also adding sounds through updates.
Yeah.... i used to make those comparisons between keyboards too, .... when i was 14....:P
Now i'm all grown up and i've learned a long time ago, that most of the time, less is more!
RD2000 is hella old and heavy
If actual Piano is what you are after the Roland has the worst action of any available almost. Mp11se/CP4/CP88 and into Nord, if you can get a good deal and it isn't broken on arrival lol. RD2000 lol, its as outdated as the Korg RH3.
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Gem promega does it better at a fraction of the price!
I can think of at least 10 reasons this can’t “beat” Nord. It looks like a fantastic board, but let’s get really honest here about marketing ploys. Also, with all due respect, Yamaha needs a better player/spokesperson to demonstrate these instruments.
Luke has done a superb job here! I ditched my Nord Stage 88 last year and have never looked back!
Do you have the Yamaha CP88 id love someones opinion on their Acoustic Piano Settings on the CP88.@@monsterjazzlicks
Nord sucks, comparing similar models in a music store this is clearly the best in terms of action, sounds and interface. (88 Key Model)
No organ drawbars means Nord still king....!
Too much "talent" (read: reverb)
Well nord should be better is $1500 more
I don't care about the bells and whistles of this thing... I have zero use for split; that's what bandmates are for. I just want a good sounding piano. Not entirely sold on this board. I've yet to play a Yamaha as solid as the CP 33 / 300
EDIT: Might I add... I hope the action is improved from the CP4. I had those POS fake balsa wood keys getting stuck in clumps.
Go and give it a play. I love it.
I also play for a few bands and I'm splitting the keyboard all the time!! Love having the option.
Rock on. 👍🏼
@@lukejuby Much love!
Yamaha is a good motorcycle ... The piano sound is artificial
I tested the CP73 out today (for an hour) and all of the ORGANS are embarrassingly abysmal!; honestly. I hope Yamaha are able to improve on this, because I would otherwise have bought it.
Inconsequential if you use two keyboards live lol. I have a synth for pretty much everyrhing thats not an acoustic piano or rhodes
@@nezkeys79 I understand that. But it's still a drag to have to carry a second keyboard just for an organ sound! Plus, I thought Yamaha were trying to get the edge on Nord? How can this be so when they can't even produce one single Hammond patch?
@@monsterjazzlicks indomt carry ot just for an organ sound...it plays brass strings woodwind organ clav synths drums lol. If it has the best piano sounds to my ears its a no brainer. I dont care if it doesnt have an organ lol. My left hand will play piano and right hand the keyboard lines
@@nezkeys79 If organs are not an issue then I would recommend it. It is better than the Nord because you can fit about TEN pianos on instead of just two, which is pathetic thesedayes - hence I sold my Nord last year.
You do realize there are great organ modules you can get if you need dedicated proper Hammond sounds without actually needing to get another keyboard, right....?
No one keyboard by one brand will be excellent (for everyone) in every single sound. This is s STAGE PIANO, so the main focus (and the majority sample memory allocation and resources), will be on acoustic/electric pianos. The other sounds are there just to get some quick basic bread and butter generic sounds.
I really don't get this "one keyboard on stage" trend this days... Not only it looks lame, but it's also limiting. My absolute minimum on stage is two keyboards (a piano weighted one and a top semi-weighted synth type).
A CP73 and a Kronos will get you all the basis covered :)
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