I Hate ETS (almost as much as collegeboard)
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General GRE:
Master's level vocabulary
High school math
They had to reword English as vocabulary to make them look less racist. The combination is as logical as putting vocabulary questions on iq tests.
Technically high school vocab. Indistinguishable from the SAT lists.
@@appa609and of course always above what high schools teach lol
I remember being told fancy words need to exist for the sake of nuance and it's bullshit and the fact the word bucolic exists is extra deluxe omega bullshit ultima because YOU BASICALLY HAVE MORE THAN HALF A DOZEN SYNONYMS FOR IT. You got rustic, agrarian, pastoral, rural, country, rugged, georgic, and probably many more that I don't give a shit about and rather fuck an inverted cactus than discover.
@@moot8710 standardized test scores very closely correlate with the amount of disposable income a family has, as well as the number of parents involved family members in childhood, quality of local schools before college, and so many other factors that children and youth have no control over. They are the standard because since all of these things were true during Jim Crow, they could be used to target people of color, who especially were affected if they were of African slave descent. This kept even very intelligent black and brown people from academic success because of a lack of resources to learn vocab and related skills. Check your privilege please.
Oh, Jeffrey... you sweet, innocent, little boy. You are only ever done with standardized testing whenever the standardized tests decide they are done with you.
your pfp screams 'K
@@AshleysBrother it they’re daring they could even say “ok”
@@coocatobut you see, it is the effortless elegance, the cool nonchalance, the simplistic, yet adequate, nature of the “K” that makes it so iconic
@@antimilkpropaganda k
@@coocato 🥹🥹
Imagine having to drive 3 states over to take a standardized test because "the nearest testing center in beyond a 100/200 mile range of your home" only to find the "testing center" is some old wooden shed behind an abandoned church on the outskirts of town.
all the bad reviews caused their budget to die
I drove 206 miles the testing day to be a walk in (registration day passed and the ETS website was so buggy that I only found out of the location via Reddit) In all my exhaustion and stress, I scored poorly for the MATH GRE and to top it all someone stole my wallet in that town. I was so upset at the whole process and my luck. Thankfully I still made it to grad school in spite of the misfortunes.
I think there is a misconception here. ETS is also the one who creates and administers both AP Exams and SATs for the College Board. The College Board is just in charge of creating the curriculum that these tests will cover.
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Oh so he's calling out the final boss, lol
Great I hate both of them
I hate both
Oh so that's why the GRE looks darn like the AP test. I am a college freshman but the questions don't seem too hard at all. Like if yk a good amount of AP Science and are proficient enough you can answer maybe at least 70% of it. Was doubting why it even doesn't have a free response section.
I like the fact its only a tiny little shed, yet they're not even able to make one in every state
The people running these testing centers and setting them up must be the same people in charge of keeping the Russian army up to scratch.
Lel.
because he's lying
about WHAT?? @@gecho5427
@@gecho5427 whoa
My brother is in grad school, he too hated the GRE. But you touched on something really important with the vocabulary part because my brother, who is mostly doing plant studies and bio chemistry, has complained in the past that a lot of folks in the stem field are really bad at communicating what they mean to people who aren’t in the field, which makes referencing their papers really frustrating which will ultimately not help the author in the long run too. In a similar way, I’m sure writers and language people prolly use ridiculous vocab in their papers and suffer the same issue. Ultimately we shouldn’t be teaching people vocab but communication and argument skills
YES. CS major here, and I swear to god, reading any textbook was always a nightmare for that exact reason.
I swear they love to flex their vocabulary and try to sound super smart, but leave anyone who's trying to learn the topic - which is supposed to be the point of the textbook - absolutely dumbfounded. I was the unofficial TA for some of my classes cuz I "translated" all their bullshitery into plain English.
@@kigamezero8636 ur doing ‘gods’ work my friend
@@juliantaylor5956 We need to threaten people who write textbooks with violence so they pass their knowledge like normal human beings instead of sounding like an insufferable dickbag. or we should get it to be filtered by someone who took classes in the field of education so its digestible.
@@kigamezero8636 the difference between stem and liberal arts textbooks is crazy. I can’t stand how repetitive some are after getting used to CS ones.
I'm pretty sure that the reason why academia uses so much obscure vocab is to reduce any chance of ambiguity or openness to interpretation. So it makes sense to use such vocab when you need to convey your idea(s) as clearly as possible while still remaining concise, but yeah, it completely alienates anyone who isn't an academic and would never hear these words/phrases in everyday life. Plus, academic papers are mostly read by other academics anyway, so there isn't much priority put into accessibility even when they arguably should like for studies and reports on climate change/global warming.
The kind old man was probably the friendly NPC that, if you choose the wrong dialogue option, triggers a hidden bossfight.
"My master cannot be summoned under the light of day, come back at night if you wish to enter"
@@hoonfox *goes to check out test center the next day
"You feel an evil presence watching you..."
"Ah, what was it? The Hunt, the blood, or the horrible Dream? Oh it doesn't matter, it always comes down to the hunter's helper to clean up this sort of mess. Tonight, Gehrman joins The Hunt."
That hot wheels car must have been blessed with the power of DTcars.
All hail the Hotwheel of luck and fortune for getting our boy through the test
When I tell you I jumped out of my chair when I heard his score I MEAN IT RAHHHHH 🦅🦅🦅
also, L in peace to his previous charm, DT cars
hotwheels sales have gone up 1740% since this video dropped (don’t fact check)
Here's the thing. Having a big vocabular isn't just a waste of time. It can be actively detrimental to your communication skills. Often in a professional environments people don't want to admit that they don't know a vocabulary word. Having a big vocabulary has become a very real and tangible challenge when trying to communicate in meetings with people who speak English as a second language.
i think it’s misappliccation and bureaucracy instead of literally your brain involuntarily being fried from knowing too much
i was always taught by my English teacher that the greatest measure of inelegance was the ability to explain a complex topic using simple words so anyone can understand it
Do you mean elegance?
@@Bruno_Swag most likely 'intelligence'
Congrats on the excellent score. Also good to hear that the test location and proctors were actually not so bad it seems.
All testing from any of these companies cause nothing but pain.
wym the APUSH test I got was child's play.
@@belluh-1huey102i got a 2 on APUSH but AP Calc AB and AP Calc BC are both easy 5s
Standardized tests are the bane of my existence. I'm doing 3 months of MCAT prep over this summer 💀💀💀... I'm already not lookin forward to it.
Same bro been studying the Kaplan books at a surface level since I got them last semester but this summer I’m going all in on them. Good luck with your studying and hope you get a good grade on the test.
Praying for y'all and wish the best, I'm taking the Real Estate NC certification in June It's a just below LSAT in terms of prep work, it's 120 questions and it is rough but I'm pushing forward we got this!
howd it go? MD or DO?
I’ve done a decent amount of prep for the SHSAT (sat but for admissions to special high schools) and it was ruined by the extremely unlikely chance that I’d have diarrhea on that specific date. I ate the food that I usually did, no problems until then. That was quite terrible.
@@stevenhthe21stsame bro. I’m preparing for the MCAT 💀 idk if I’m too late to late or not but I’m starting right now as an eighth grader 💀
My experience with ETS comes from taking the TOEFL just this past April. The requirements are so strict that I had to basically throw everything I had in my desk behind my bed, move the whole dest so that it faced the door, and of course, the program itself that you have to use to connect to the proctor granted them remote access to my computer, making me feel the entire time like I was just gonna have all of my files stolen at any moment. Along with that, I had to pick up my laptop and just give the proctor a tour of my bedroom on 3 separate occasions. Fortunately, it appears that a paper inside one of those plastic sheets for binders and a highlighter count as a whiteboard and erasable marker. The test itself wasn't too bad, but unfortunately I got the most terrible need to pee midway through and had to hold it in the remaining hour and a half because I wasn't allowed to leave the room for any reason. Fortunately I ended up getting a 112/120.
imagine having to do allat just to prove that you do in fact know english
Here in Afghanistan, we have "testing centers", places where you go to take the home based test as getting fast enough internet for the test costs like 7 kidneys and the singular real testing center is booked at least 6 months in advance.
I also felt the need to pee, and since I can't pee anywhere but my own bathroom, I had to hold it in the entire time. It was painful, it costed a lot, and I didn't even get into the grad school because the embassy delayed my visa process by a year after I prepared everything (and got admission letters).
Coincidentally, I also got 112/120.
@@sawgiie MFW I say "um" one time and my TOEFL score goes from 115 to 85
@@tissuepaper9962 me watching my speaking proficiency score drop bc the bell rang while I was speaking
You're so sane.
It intrigues me.
Damn someone with 200k subscribers but 2 likes on their comment
I live in a state where ALL CHILDREN have to take a specific standardized test every 2 years. It is the worst thing you will ever do. It takes a week to finish and will consume 70% of your day. The remaining periods will either still act business as usual (So homework when you are more burn out then a pile of used charcoal) or give you a break to just sit and relax (these were typically the teachers about to retire).
Maybe infrastructure 'maintained' by private companies should NEVER be critical to people's futures.
This
Thank you for pointing out how overly complicated vocabulary defeats the purpose of communication. Knowing big words that make you feel smart don't actually make you smart and, in fact, make it a lot harder for you to communicate with others if you use those words.
English is my second language and the fact that someone could be doing vocab flashcards for their own native language is baffling to me lmao
Idk about other languages but god english has so many words that are uneccesary and has effective, more commly used synonyms, they dont need to exist English is just dumb
well i personally enjoy picking up new words, it’s not really like a “threshokd”
and the edit button’s broken
THE DEER SAW ITS OPPORTUNITY AND TOOK IT
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THE ARCHITECT AND THE BUILDER ARRIVE CALMLY FROM THEIR ESCALATOR WITH A SENSE OF PURPOSE
Ngl feels like these tests are more preparing you for scrabble than college
I've been to 3 different testing centers in my lifetime. One was in a non descript upstairs room of a no name bank, the other was next to the dumpster behind a DMV, the last was right across the street from the mall where the mass shooting happened in El Paso. Pearson testing centers sure pick the cheapest real estate!
Years ago heard a reference to such tests as being: "Intellectual masturbation" and i can't stop thinking about that ever since...
Such things get stuck in it head for a reason. We are naturally disposed to discern the truth from lies. It's your brain trying to lock onto something that enlightens you to the cognative dissonance in what we're indoctrinated to belive. Schools were worse than jail for me
In tutti means in unison specifically for voices or instruments. There should be a separate music theory GRE with that word on it instead of it being on the general GRE because you literally do not need to know it unless you study music theory
I'm learning Music Theory from videos and I've never heard of "In tutti" before, the word itself sounds stupid.
No because in tutti can be used to metaphorically refer to a team working together.
@@acksawblack oh huh. Google said it’s for instrumental use. Though, google can only be so reputable nowadays and the word itself is dated, so maybe the usage has changed. Unison and together are similar, so i suppose that makes sense, i had just only known about it from the google definition because i looked it up out of curiosity.
@@Kromiball if you play in a section you're bound to see "tutti" sooner or later. Solos or divided parts will happen, then when everyone is supposed to play together the term is used. Lots of music terms in performance are random Italian (too many if you ask Grainger)
@@seanplayscl A stupid amount of music theory terms are Italian words. de capo, in tutti, mezzo, forte, mezzo forte, fortissimo. These are the ones from the top of my head.
Looks like you got one of the 935 Porsches. Good taste. Maybe it was a lucky charm after all.
980... Based. Nice job. I got magna cum laude in mechanical engineering and a job though who knows if I'm gonna go back for a master's degree. I will say that it's really annoying when it's the time allotted for the test that's the issue. That's usually what sunk me in heat transfer exams.
I just had to take the GRE, I tried to take it online and there is a ton of security stuff for doing it at home. There was a notification from their system in the middle of my test alerting me i was being watched. So I cleared it out but it alerted me that i had a "security breach". It took them two weeks for and $220 and them to tell me that technically i was in the wrong cause the proctor couldnt see me. even though they could, I hate ETS.
I write yearly essays on why standardized tests SUCK there are no words to describe my hatred for those things.
I was required to take the General GRE for my MAT, despite being a History Teacher and having not taken a single math class in 7 years. I got a 152v/144q, an awful math score. I thought I was doomed.
My advisor told me a week later that the college doesn't take the GRE anymore. Despite requiring me to take it and the college website still saying its required.
¡Hell yeah mang! Congrats. Was starting to feel badly cause i always considered ‘test prep’ getting some sleep, but 980, thats an achievement. Well did.
All of the Masters and PhD programs I applied to did not require the GRE, except for one. I talked to a student and a faculty member in the program and they said they rarely get applications for the program because so many schools don't require the GRE anymore, and students would rather not take it. College students are already very busy, especially those considering grad school, so I can see why they would not take the GRE for one specific program if its uncertain they're going to get accepted.
I have a collection of around 1000 hotwheels. I'm pretty sure they're the only reason I'm alive right now, because without them there would be nothing for me to think about while i slam my keyboard in fury about essays having a minimum word requirement.
that's an impressive collection ngl
As a mariner in the US the organization that handles the test is the US Coast Guard. As I am someone who is trying to become a marine engineer my test will be 7 each one taking roughly 3-4 hours over the span of 3.5 days and on the deck side they used the wrong answer key to grade or gave them the wrong chart for plotting a course. Instead of giving every one who failed (ps. literally no one passed that test) a second chance. They just failed them. For the coast guard licensing exam if you fail 2 or less you only need to retest the failed 1-2 but if you failed 3 or more you test all 3.5 for engineers(people who fix the ships) or 4 days for deck(people who drive the ships). The test they fucked up on they made everyone retake and forced a decent chunk of people to retake everything because they got to 3 fails. It's a good test in ensuring you are capable of understanding the laws and how to navigate or fix a boat.
I'm literally about to go through this process so this gives me both anxiety and confidence
There is a thing called good anxiety! It's only bad anxiety when you think it's bad!
great advice! (system is bad tho)
No clue why but when you said u got a 980 I screamed let’s go lmao. Good job :D
The only reason I know In tutti means together or in unison is because tutti is sometimes used in music notation, since composers like funny Italian words (I’m a music composition major)
Fun fact, AP tests are actually made part by ets as well.
Wait, WHAT
Yooo... Its me on the left at 2:36
2:10 depilation just means getting rid of the part of your hair that's peaking out of your skin, e.g. shaving, as opposed to epilation, ripping out the entire hair, e.g. tweezing. Isn't that common knowl- oh now I remember why I know, haha, still cis tho ^^'
REAL.
Comp Eng here. Just graduated this semester and while I could’ve easily just gone back to my University to do graduate school (I’d somewhat carried my Senior Design project and they really wanted me back to do more research on it), I’ve made the executive decision that I’m sick of school (or at least everything but Senior Design) and want money. Thus I’m going directly to industry, or at least until I find out the grass is way browner on the other side or the economy goes in the shitter.
My friend the economy is in the shitter, it’s only downhill from here 😭
I'm studying Comp Eng this fall. Do you have tips or advice?
@@themangoninja8 get the math and analysis techniques that govern circuits (Kirchhoff’s laws, nodal and mesh analysis, Thevenin and Norton’s laws) down pat before you get to more advanced circuits courses like Network Theory 2 (may be called different at different universities) and Semiconductors. Those classes in particular really fucked me up. Also, make sure you at least know some basic programming language like Python, Java or C++ before entering the program as this will make your first coding classes a breeze. Same applies to any calculus you may have taken.
@@restitutororbis964 naysayer it is not going downhill, it's not like you've lived in the Great Depression before, I mean I have not, but if you think it is bad here, then go live in China.
@@themangoninja8 My advice as a recent CompE graduate is to become extremely comfortable with abusing stimulants like caffeine and nicotine, and sleeping at odd hours of the day, if at all. Find an unused classroom or rarely-utilized computer lab and prepare to spend 50% of your waking hours there, alone. The library is a trap, "studying at the library" is a social event and you will not get anything done there. Skipping classes to work on assignments for other classes is *also* a trap. If you didn't get the assignment done the night before then you should cut that loss and move on to assignments that you still have a chance to do well, otherwise you will end up in an endless cycle of submitting crap work that you did at the last minute. Finally, if a class has a generous late work policy, *abuse the crap out of it!* If you have a choice between turning in shitty work on time, or good work late, choose the second option unless the teacher is adamant that they do not accept late work. Better to lose points on the homework because it's late, than to lose points on the (much more important) exams because you didn't take your time to understand the concepts by doing the homework right.
im so glad you're back jeff
It’s funny how he explains why in tutti is useless and then says “in total” which would have been a good use of the phrase lol
I found a cool little secret with hotwheels. There are special treasure hunt (TH) editions that are pretty rare, and could be sold for some cash(est 15/40-100 usd) a way to find these is on the little artwork thingy, behind the car should be a little blue flame. If its golden its a super TH. The same blue flame could be found on the car somewhere, but for the STH it should just have TH instead of the flame. Just some little help in case this could be a “side job” or something I dont know. Good luck with everything!!!
Took the GRE back in January this year.
Never again. Never, EVER, again.
Congratulations on the 980! Sucks you had to go so far, but at least it worked out. Good luck man!
can't wait for the channel to be renamed "storytime with dr. jeff"
11:41, clearly the DT Cars gods have taken pity on you once more
I was just watching another video from you, clicked to some news about a game I like, and then you uploaded a new video lmao
Edit: I also love Hotwheels, and have a collection of them :)
GRE general math made me cry and I got an A in both calculus I and calculus II (I was a forensic biology major but for some reason all of the schools wanted the general test and not the biology test)
0:39 I’m lucky my university dropped the GRE requirements
for online tests like this, I would pick a park bench in a forest or on a mountain with no buildings (except for a cell tower) in a 5-mile radius
Bro in the Balmer series n=2 is the ground state, there is nothing to solve for with this question.
I didn't have to take the GREs because my university had a program where you were guaranteed admission to the graduate program if you met certain requirements.
Felt that herniated disk pain its always so bad for the first gear
Be it as a kid or as an adult, Hotwheels cars always bring joy in many forms.
the irony is... Raconteur perfectly describes the youtube channel of Storytime with Jeff
At least you can imagine a virtuous version of a subject-matter standardized test. You know, one that asks meaningful questions that are relevant to actual grad programs and fields of study. But there is no version of that for the "general" purpose exams. The SAT/ACT/GRE/etc. are a stupendous waste of time.
Nah the hot wheels car only negated the bad luck from the bird. That's all you jeff.
Congrats on the Physics GRE! Might take the test soon. Any books or other test prep that helped you get a decent score?
If only there was an ISO standard for testing humans. lol
I'm going to take standardized exams for the University of São Paulo at the end of the year. I'm very close to the minimum grade required for medicine. I hope it all goes well.
Boa sorte
@@standowner6979 Obrigado!
I often forget that ur basically a nuclear scientist at this point. I just hope you find the next like 10 elements so we can have Jeffium.
Me watching every single Jeff video hearing him complain about a corrupt company: "Ah, sh*t, here we go again."
they probably only have a small amount of testing centers to keep people out of the profession because if everyone had the qualifications for the job it wouldn't be in demand
6:45 oh god... he's just like me... he's just like me fr....
Huh, lucky dude. I did my toefl online and the proctor couldn't connect me so they just decided to cancel my test and justify that by saying I had an unauthorized application in the background. Since than I swore I'd send pipebombs to ETS offices
Nice video and storytelling mate
GRE is by far the worst test I have ever had to take.
I sure do love the fanciful concept of “public education”
every day that i studied for the GRE is a day spent in pure agony.
oh my god dude 4 years ago we were both taking those stupid ass online ap exams and now we've both taken the physics and general gre's what a world
6:34 this is the truest thing - im not surprised hte phys gre is being phased out, i'm shocked it had ever been phased in
11:23 LETS GOOOOOO
Thanks for making me want to stay away from grad school even more
tldr: hotwheels car carries standardized testing
I found that McDonald's hotcakes helps with engineering exams lol
I thought this was a video about how you hate extraterrestrials in which you would tell a story about a time when an ET invaded your dorm and you had a not so friendly encounter with it
The vocabulary section on the GRE appears to be primarily based on the IQ tests from the 1950s to 1970s (I think?), which were, as many things were in those days, racially motivated.
Many of the tests involved testing for vocabulary that only predominantly wealthier, white schools would teach, and poorer colored schools would not.
Therefore the GRE Vocabulary section is not objective of how well one can communicate, but rather a form of testing for race that no longer even fully functions as intended.
Edit: I see you mentioned this in your "Why Collegeboard is the Worst Company in America" video, which... Yeah. Yup.
I'm a doctoral student now. One point of pride is I've made it through higher education without taking the GRE.
Had enough standardized testing in high school, no thanks.
A giant fucking corporation and yet has it's testing building as a shipment container. Even a comedy show wouldn't have that like is this even real
lovin the style and good shit with them scores u just inspired me to stop procrastinating on my final art project
You should make a video about the SOLs
He should, but I feel like the state SOLs, at least in Virginia, are decent exams which don't test random knowledge but rather actual relevant curriculum. Probably because these are run by the government and not a private profit driven company.
I suspect you need a couple of semesters of Latin and Greek to do well on the GRE vocab. :(
maybe the real hotwheels car was the friends we made along the way
I was waiting for that casually explained outro music at the end
I feel like u could implement this quote to stop accidently fucking and torturing yourself:
"If something CAN go wrong, it WILL."
It's fucking wild to me this is not a free government service
Never discount good luck charms. I have a yellow company shirt from the previous place I worked prior to the suffering of grad school.
I still wear it to every single midterm and final. Never betrayed me once.
6:24 OHHH I know about that one! My b+ in Chem 101 paying its dues lmfao
9:49
Why the hell is there a free Candy van in the Background?!
I didn't have to take the GREs because my university had a program where you were guaranteed admission to the graduate program if you met certain requirements.
I honestly think it's not great for admitting actually smart students, because Ron got into the Master's program this way and I don't think he's very academically gifted.
And they make you take even more standardized tests if you need to be certified for teaching.
The DT Cars Hotwheel came in clutch!
Just wait for standardized testing on the corporate level
Good job on the score
Bro took an exam in a liminal space.
I remember watching your CollegeBoard video in 2020
I'll try this strategy before my Real Estate exam, It's a lot of pre-law information.
bro is still tryharding school just settle for a 200k/yr job already pleaSE
Can physics students get that kinda job though?
What person is getting 200k with a physics bachelors lul
They made you answer what the word tutti means? That isn't even general knowledge. It's a musical term meaning "all together" or something similar. Or, you can just say it is Italian. Either way though, I don't think anybody would classify concert music or Italian as general knowledge.
I could never hate ETS because in the military it means your contract is over
If you need to get to a town 200 miles away, can't you just take a train or even a bus?
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