XICOY X45 MICRO TURBINE - Unboxing, Test Run and Review - By Gaspar
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- Опубліковано 8 січ 2021
- #xicoy #microturbine #turbine Very excited to be able to Unbox, Review and Test the Xicoy X45 Micro Turbine by Gaspar. This Turbine will be mounted in the Mibo Swift Glider that appears in some of the background in the video.
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Engine Specs:
Light version, for installations where space is reduced. Includes color screen (removable) and miniature connecting hub.
Power: 45N - 10lb
Extremely low residual thrust: 1,8N -0,4lb
Exceptional idle to full thrust ratio of 25 times.
Max RPM: 225.000
Minimum RPM: 60.000
Diameter: 59,8 mm
Lenght: 165 mm
Engine weight: 395 g including mounting strap and FOD filter.
Installed weight: 470 g (inc Engine, Pump and leads. Not inclusive of battery.)
Fuel Comsumption: 20 g/min at idle. 145 g/min at full power.
Easily adjustable thrust output in Newton and in Lb from 1,8N to 45N.
Kerosene and diesel fuel + 4% oil
Kerostart fast starting of 25 sec
Inflight Restart technology. Typically half time than Normal Start.
Brushless fuel pump with integrated controller
High speed Brushless starter motor
All new Fully Integrated ecu
Telemetry for Jeti, Futaba, HoTT, MPX, PB Core, Spektrum, JR and FrSky. (Optional module)
Fuel and FOD filters included.
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Can it pull a boat
I’m an aerospace/mechanical engineer and I can only say Wow. I’m around military air vehicles all day. And this micro engine ATP is awesome! I’m nerding out!🤓
HAHA. Awesome to hear Lee. Thanks for watching!
I know nothing about this hobby but seeing the rpm’s go over 220,000 is terrifying. Holy moly! I’d be behind a blast shield. Lol! Very cool stuff!
Yea when you think about how fast these things are turning it's crazy!
Wow must be very very well balanced lol
@The Lighter Side Of RC I've heard that the blade tips have to reach a certain speed in order for the engine to work properly, so the small ones have to spin faster due to their blade tips traveling a far shorter distance with each turn.. but I'm no rocket surgeon lol
Another great video Jonathan! Your thorough setup and running is great for the newer and older turbine guys. Gaspar really has done a great job with this new series of motors, and maybe I will purchase one in the future. He is a great guy to deal with as I have several JetsMunt engines that he helped develop.
Thanks Brent! Yea it’s nice to see another option in the turbine market! Definitely beautiful stuff! Thanks for checking out the video!😎
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This hobby has come a long way since trying to flip start a cox .049 with a dead carbon/zinc battery.
HA! No kidding!
Yeah but there's nothing like that feeling of cold nitro on a freshly cut wound caused by flipping.
remember i loved the smell of my 0,8 cox
and my neighbour hated the sound.
I have many great childhood memories of flying and running Cox and Testors planes and cars back in the day. I still run them. I can remember on any given Summer day as a kid and hearing the high pitched whine of an
.049 in my neighborhood which meant grabbing a plane or car, hopping on my bike and going to join in on the all day fun with my friends and going home smelling like castor oil. To quote Archie Bunker, "Those were the days!"
@@rba5567 Especially if the prop bit you right on the edge of your finger or thumb and nail. Those were the worst.
I really enjoyed your video, I am new (I mean really new) to turbines so I continue to read and watch and hope one day to take part in turbine flying! Great Job!
Welcome aboard William! It's a pretty unique side of the hobby that is pretty exhilarating! For me it's the sound, smell and sometimes the speed and realism that does it for me! Thanks for watching!
Just found this channel and really happy I did!
Wonderful! Glad you found it too! Thanks for watching!
Dazzling & fantasically stimulating.
LOL. Thanks for watching!
Wow ! Incredible throttle response !
Sure is!
that’s a $3k radio my dude you can’t expect anything less 🤌🏻
Sweet, a jewel of an engine, Gaspar really knows his stuff and as you may know a lot of other manufacturers have also benefitted from that knowledge. Great real world engine test run Jonathan, looking forward to seeing how the sailplane flies with it. In-flight restarts will be interesting to see.
Thanks! Yea it wasn’t long ago when most manufacturers were using his Fadec/ecu
Gaspar is one of the best manufacturer of turbines got 2 of thease little jems and the after sales are brilliant.I had one problem with the turbine i installed the engine in with the fuel inlet at the top it did start but struggled now turned around starts perfectly every time now
Yea he has done a lot for the turbine community! It wasn’t long ago where so many of the manufacturers were using his Fadec/ECU
Very special ! Best micro turbine !! 👍✌️😏
Totally 😎
Great video mate, very informative
Thanks 😊
i like how you colour matched the spilt drink to the purple compressor housing :-)
Haha 😂. Totally intentional!
Excellent Review Ty Sir!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
I've only watched a couple min but you for sure deserve my like and sub and many more
Thanks! I appreciate it!
Very cool, Thanks for sharing.
You bet. Thanks for watching!
Wauw crazy fast throttle respons!!
I know!! And that's not crazy fast either.
super cool helpful video
Thanks for watching!
Definitelly on the wish list!
Such a cool little engine! Now that the owner has a bunch of run time on it, still VERY IMPRESSED!!!!
Gaspar is a good friend.
Awesome 😎
Thanks for the review 🙏 bless you
My pleasure!
hope to see this in North Battleford this summer! Looks great
You bet!😎
That swift behind you looks very TASTY
MIBO SWIFT 2.5M! Should be fun with a turbine strapped to the top!
I’m impressed.
Thanks Tony!
I run it in a Freewing Avanti S, I find the X45 very impressive and hassle-free as it should be for everyday RC use.
Awesome! That's a great kit and engine! Thanks for watching!
Same
Excellent....went and ordered one. Hello from Oz down under............
Nice! Thanks for watching!
Oh my so real thats good flying for glider nice
Thanks! Should be a Hoot!
Very cool...I'll have to keep this one in mind for later on. I'm planning on building a couple of large 3d printed EDF jets that eventually I'd like to convert over to turbine.
Nice! It's a great little engine! because the ECU is held in the turbine the engine could realistically be swapped between aircraft to use. Just get an install kit for each plane then all you have to do is swap the engine.
@@thelightersideofrc Well there won't be an install kit specifically for these planes...but from what I've read there are some turbines designed to be direct drop in replacements for certain sized EDFs. This looks a lot like some of the ones I've been looking at. The printed planes are designed for an 80mm or 90mm EDF...can't remember which specifically and the 3dLabPrint.com website is down for maintenance right now. So this will be similar in build to the foamy EDFs converted to turbine. I'll probably have to insulate the interior but if it can be done in a foamy I should be able to pull it off in a 3d printed plane :)
Way Cool I should have gotten into this sport years ago. But in the mean time I'll live through your experience.
HAHA. Thanks for watching!
Excellent video & very informative. Thank you for sharing. Certainly wetted my appetite to upgrade to turbine. Seems they've come a long way in terms of usability & performance. ... (uk)
Thanks! Yea the Tech on them and simplicity is wonderful! Compared to 10 years ago, operating these engines now is a breeze!
That thing cooks man to cool.
Thanks! Yea crazy to think that something is rotating at over 200k RPM!😳
So very beautiful small turbine
Yea! It’s almost like a piece of Jewelry! Thanks for watching!
@@thelightersideofrc welcome always I'm watching your all vedios
Very similar telemetry display and wiring that came with my Merlin Jetsmunt 166, impressive engine
Yes! Uses Xicoy Fadec/ECU on your turbine.
Beautiful
Thank you! Cheers!
just awesome!
Thank you! Cheers!
excellent Video
Thanks 😊
I have bought a used x45 with 9 hours on it for my fomie Avanti 80mm. will run it when weather gets warmer. thanks for the run video
You bet! Sounds like a fun project! Have you already mounted it in the Avanti?
From what I understand that period of low rpms after a long run at high rpms is a "cool down" period. Its supposed to do that. Actually, you are supposed to do that prior to complete shut down. But thats cool it does it itself. By cooling it off slowly, it prevents warping and binding between the different metals.
That thing is awsome. Someday Im gonna get me one. Its definetly on the bucket list.
A few questions. 1) how much was it? 2) how loud was it? 3) how fast did it burn fuel?
Hello. They are a blast to fly and so addicting!
This particular one goes for about $1900 USD. It is sooo loud! Ear protection-required! Because this is the smallest size it doesn’t use a lot of fuel. On most aircraft your using a 1.25-1.5 L tank.
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Awesome 😎 !!!!!
Thanks 😊
awesome
Thanks!
Sweet little engine!
Sooooo cute!
@@thelightersideofrc lol. Can’t wait to seee the next video.
Sweet!!
Thanks 😊
This so interesting
Thanks for watching!
**** RESPECT ***** Great Presentation
Thanks!
Are you familiar with UAV ( unmman autonomous vehicle) ? You don't need a Remote control but just program the flight with Ardupilot ( pixhawk flight controller)
Is the fuel consumption okay for a 2 hours flight?
For an UAV FIX-WING?
Yes Familiar.
For a 2 hour flight you would have to gauge the fuel requirements needed. Also the turbines use the most fuel at full throttle (of course 😊) but if it can be flown at 1/2-3/4 for most of the flight it saves a lot of fuel.
I'd love to get an aft view of the engine (off-axis of course) while it's operating.
My next engine for a review is on route now. I will be sure to get that shot and include it in the video!😎
thats a cool little jet eng
So tiny!!!! Like a piece of jewelry
Wow nice 🌿 thank u sir.
I am new Subscribe r 😍
Thank you and thanks for subbing!
Awesome engine... my has 12hrs on it so far
The ecu is on the turbine. The little piece with all the connections for the battery etc is the hub.
Nice! You’ve been flying a lot!
@@thelightersideofrc oh yea... it is 42 today so ill see if I can get some flights on it. But also withstand the cold lol.
All I want for Christmas is *mini jet engine kit*
HAHA. I think we all do!
By far the best micro turbine on the market right now - the X90 is impressive as hell too.
Absolutely! Some of the pictures of the X 90 that have been posted are amazing! Especially the one beside one of the older generation 80 N cases
@@thelightersideofrc No kidding, did you see Kim's post with the X90 vs the old Jet Cat P80SE? The difference is just ridiculous.
What a time to be alive :D
Yea! It’s pretty amazing seeing the advancements in technology!
Check out the new X-95... I just got mine and it's next level for efficiency and power! 🤤😎
Great review! 😁👍
...but why are you using a 4S LiPo? Aren't 2S enough?
Thx
It is a 2Cell 7.4v lipo it's just created with 4 cells to get the 4200Mah. So it's 4 x 2100 Mah cells.
this has more technology than my car engine
Haha. Must be an older car!
I don't think so 😌
Stick an afterburner attachment at the end. Might be too small to ignite the fuel but it's worth a try.
And make some really cool noise!!!!😎
Great video. Thank you. I actually have a similar project lined up. I would like to equip XModels Swift (2.5m) with a turbine as well. SO I have a few questions. What thrust to weight ratio did you consider when selecting this turbine? How heavy do you think your swift is going to be? How are you planning to mount the turbine?
Thanks for watching! It was really more of a guess and some suggestion from MIBO. It will also be a quick plane with this setup. As far as the final weight goes i'm purely guessing but I think it should be 10 - 12 lbs when done. I'm hoping for lighter but we will see. I received the turbine mount a few days ago from MIBO. The did up a specific mount for this turbine/plane combo. I posted a pic on my IG and FB accounts. There is a carbon base that will get glued into the airframe and a metal mount that wraps around the turbine. These two bolt together so conceivably the turbine can be removed very easily.
@@thelightersideofrc that is very interesting. Thank you. And are you planing to add a retractable gear? If yes which one?
@@WindyHillHobbies Yes as long as it all fits the retractable gear will go in. It's the one that came from MIBO. Not sure if it's made by them or not but it does have a Hacker Servo/Motor. In my unboxing video of the glider I show the landing gear.
I would love to put two of these in a model f-22. it probably would be pretty quick
Heck Yea! depends on the size of the plane but it would be a sweet twin setup!
Thumbs up on wife skills alone. Lol.. Good stuff. Love the content. And love the grear wife you have aiding in you doing your thing for us. Excellent video.
Thanks Jerome! I appreciate it!
Great video thank you - question. Is the shaft running on sealed bearings or what is the magic there as I see she can go past 200 000 rpm!
Turbine operates on lubricated bearings. the fuel has oil in it so the bearings are constantly lubricated with fuel/oil
Will look forward to seeing it mounted with the glider, I'm now having images of a RC car with one of these lol .
🤔😂😂😂😂
Same
That’s orsum. Would not mind a engine like this one day 👍🏻
So fun and so tiny!!!!
Sweet
Thanks 😊
Amazing and beautiful. Do these small turbojet type motors, especially if spinning at up to 220,000 rpm, ever throw blades? Does that result in uncontained destruction?
Definitely happens! That's why you avoid standing beside or behind the turbine for 30 ft.
that is cool so tinny just need a holder for the hub and the screen 😜✈
Ha ha totally! Trying to keep the weight of the glider to a bare minimum of course but I don’t think a couple grams will matter. I do think the screen is going to get mounted in the plane
Must be nice to play with RC all day
YES!!!
I couldn't be nonproductive. ( no Job) It makes me feel guilt like I didn't contribute.
Hi, you showed the relatively long time for full throttle back to idle. Did you try to adjust this so that the rotation decreases faster?
Not during the test but once installed in an airframe would be a great time to final adjust.
Sublime when you say "Newton" for the thrust. Scientific America all the way.
🙌👆
What percentage oil to fuel did you use? Read that is uses 4% for kerosene. I run mostly Swiwin that uses 5% for kerosene. Sort of a hassle to have both 4% & 5% mixtures when I go flying.
5%. I agree it's a hassle. I just always do 5%
Mine arrived with the lead out of the digital screen and its not marked as to +- thankfully your vid showed the correct way as I was a bit frightened to plug it in the wrong way 👍
Awesome 😎. Glad it helped
I am totally new to turbines. Been flying eclectic rc planes for a while. A few nitro planes years ago. Would this be a good entry in turbines? What air frame would you recommend?
Hello! Yea it's a cost effective way to get into turbines for sure. The big plus is you can put this engine in an airframe and basically convert most 90mm ish designs pretty simply. just need to sort out pipe, fuel and such. There is a small Avanti that is quite popular but many are putting this engine in anything it will fit in!
Best RC turbojet ever released for sure. It’s a little marvel!
Yea it'a a cool little engine!
Quick question Jonathan... When you power up the Xicoy GSU without plugging in the RX power, does your GSU turn on?
Mine doesn't and I want to make sure that's normal...
Strange thing is when I ONLY power up the RX and don't even plug in the GSU battery, it works fine like normal. I know redundancy is great, but I was just curious if that's normal?
Thanks in advance!
When turbine battery is connected but no signal or power from RX then turbine should remain off.
When power is supplied through RX to turbine but no turbine battery is connected things will power on but turbine will not run.
Things will look normal but if you try to initiate start it won't work.
@The Lighter Side Of RC Oooook, that's what's happening. Thanks so much for the empirical knowledge... It's greatly appreciated! 🙂
PS - These really are fantastic units! I just got the new X-95 and the fuel efficiency and lightweight design is a game changer! Cheers! 😊
Love the display... that's so cool... BTW, how much did it cost ?
Link to website below. It ends up about $1500
@@thelightersideofrc pretty affordable
Did you say in this video that the turbine have a delay with stock settings? What do i need to modify in order to have a fast response?I ask you because i will buy my first turbine x45 and i want to know how to set it correctly? tks,
Pretty much every turbine has adjustable acceleration and Deceleration rates. Some are simple Slow, Medium, Fast, Faster. Some are much more adjustable (ie, Swiwin). with a numerical system. In the case of swiwin, if it accelerates from idle to full throttle at a setting of 25 and takes 4.2 seconds. If you go up to 30 it may accelerate to full in 3.8 seconds.
Well as long as she doesn’t call the other *IT* cute, you’re good ( eh ) lol. Cheers from Nakina Ontario Canada bud.
No bs videos.
You got yourself a new Canadian subscriber
Wishing you all the best for 2021.
HAHA! Yea no kidding!
Thanks Jay for watching and subbing!🇨🇦
@@thelightersideofrc You got it *Pontiac* LOL !
Wow
😎
can anyone tell me if there are micro jet engines in the form of the plane APU without the thrust?
hi thanks for great show, is there any torque in engine, could I use it without anti torque in chopper?
Hello Mortaza. I don't believe you would feel any torque from the engine.
HI! I follow you with great interest🙂
I just bought the x45 to put on the mini 339 sebart.
I didn't quite understand the process you do to the fuel system which takes 30 seconds.
Can you explain it to me? Thank you!!😎😎🖐
Did you check the supplied manual? Tank to UAT. UAT to pump inlet on pump. Output of pump to turbine. Filter goes into the line before the pump as per instructions.
Hi I have a question. And I will definitely subscribe. My question is, if I hook one of these up to an electric motor on the shaft, how much electricity could I produce with this? Thanks.
Probably a fair bit but it's not fuel efficient at all.
Wow😂💕
Nice Engine!
sweet
Thanks!
Hey Jonathan Trying to turn me to the DARK SIDE EH Keep it up and I may turn LOL GREAT video
Haha! 😎 thanks for watching!
Hi, I was curious what the trust to weight ratio is, and what the max amount of thrust was in pounds? Great video btw, I left a like.
Thanks! When I did the test I didn't have my thrust stand setup. I may retest the thrust when the glider build happens. Thanks for watching. In best case conditions it should have 10 lbs of thrust.
@@thelightersideofrc Ok cool, thanks for the reply.
Expensive engine
So, so. The larger ones are much more expensive!
Hello..Thanks alot for detailed guidance. i hv an AMT Olympus 23kg micro jet engine. the problem is that max thrust is not achieved. i get max 19Kg thrust whereas the RPM is maximum. however, EGT is 100 Deg C lesser...What could b problem? ambient conditions are unchanged.. i donot know why EGT is suddenly reduced by 100 Deg C
If your reaching max RPM for the turbine then the lack of thrust could be Design, Altitude, Temperature Etc. There are lots of factors. at my altitude of 3200 ft ASL we see about a 15% drop in turbine output.
Cool new product. I wonder what the difference would be on diesel. Also why do you shut it down from such a high rpm?
From what I have heard it should run well! The only difference would be changing the fuel type to diesel which I assume modifies the startup parameters.
Generally I will turn off the turbine at about 1/4 throttle. Typically what happens is there is a cooler spot in temp above idle. So at idle if temp is 500. Maybe 1/4 throttle is 400 and then at 1/2 your at 550 as an example. Just helps with cooling down the turbine.
@@thelightersideofrc thanks I thought you killed it near full rpm.
Can I use this engine for an UAV ?
How far can it fly with x an amount of weight?
You made a great presentation
Thanks. the answer to your questions is based on so many factors. This engine is one of the smallest out there but with a small size comes lower power output than a larger engine. So all depends on design.
Would you please use a thermometer to measure the hot air temperature (at highest RPM) near the nozzle?
I am considering using this engine for my science experiment (nothing to do with RC airplane.) I wonder if the LCD display shown the actual correct temperature.
I can try. I do have a laser temp gun but not sure if it will go that high.
1000 degrees is really hot 🔥
can you check the EGT with a seperate probe? in my eyes this engine runs too cool (what I actually can't rlly believe)
I could but it's not really necessary. Everything seemed to be running normal in my opinion. 400 ish degrees at normal mid stick running and in the high 500's at full throttle is very normal. Common numbers with other turbines I have tested and run.
@@thelightersideofrc it would be interesting if you could check. I know from manufacturers that they cheat the temp reading. 500C is low in my opinion, so reality is probably more. there is no point having low temps, it is more safe actually, but common turbine wheel materials easily withstand 650C. if the designer of the engine does not exhaust the temp limits, therevis a thrust margin left that could be used by a smaller thrust pipe at the end of the enginem
Rc car is my ambition for this engine.
HAHA! That would be awesome!
OMG you have 3 hands!
HAHA! So Helpful!
@@thelightersideofrc The only logical explanation could be that you are a T-1000 sent by Skynet from the future. Working on some autonomous drone currently?
🥸🤫😂😂😂😂
Great, but will the thrust from it spin up a turbo-charger turbine enough, to actually make boost with the compressor side of it ? That is the question.
Oh Heck Yea!
@@thelightersideofrc I was thinking of directing one through a box with an aperture that could be finitely controlled with a a couple of side ports for twin T-4s since they're only about $100 each on Ebay. Freaking jets aren't cheap.
great video and review!
the question is, can this be duplicated with a professional cnc machine and precise engineering? 😂
Maybe but there is so much electronic stuff involved as well that is proprietary.
Hey man, i wold love to see that little motor on a x-wing.
how much it cost?
It would be possible to put 4 of them on the back biwing of the x-wing.
Anything is possible! Basically just need to figure out how much push one needs and allow for fuel load.
I would love to learn how to fix or maintenance do you know if there any kind of certification i can get to be train on just the UAV/ RC Jet Engine Thrust?
All Self taught
@@thelightersideofrc that good but i feel it important to add those kind of certifications under my resume i dont think they will ever take me seriously if i just tell them im self taught. when i want to get more involved in the UAV industry
Spins like there's no tomorrow, did I see 225,000 on the digital readout when setting up?
YEA! That what the RPM Maxes out at! Crazy EH! Thats 3750 times a second! 😳
@@thelightersideofrc I tried counting the revs but couldn't keep up.
What is the volume of fuel tank will you put and how much flying time this will give you
Most guys are using about a 1L tank. Flying time is all dependant on throttle control and position.
Great job !
and what happened to your left hand. fingers??
Thanks! No fun or crazy stories like shark attack or axe incident. Just born that way😊
@@thelightersideofrc ok. by the way i like ur videos and keep growing mate.
For the F100 from laser-Design-Services USA I would like to use the 45 or the in 2023 released 60 from Xicoy. Has anybody an advice for me, which to choose?
bigger is usually better!!!!!
@@thelightersideofrc Thank you very much for your advice. So I‘ll wait till 2023. The engines are so quiet. Like electric drives. Fortunately they are produced in Spain. That’s a country of us Europeans. Hope they have a good endurance, because the PC6 will be used for lifting gliders.