WE LIVE IN THE INFOSPHERE [Prof. LUCIANO FLORIDI]
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We are living in an age of rapid technological advancement, and with this growth comes a digital divide. Professor Luciano Floridi of the Oxford Internet Institute / Oxford University believes that this divide not only affects our understanding of the implications of this new age, but also the organization of a fair society.
The Information Revolution has been transforming the global economy, with the majority of global GDP now relying on intangible goods, such as information-related services. This in turn has led to the generation of immense amounts of data, more than humanity has ever seen in its history. With 95% of this data being generated by the current generation, Professor Floridi believes that we are becoming overwhelmed by this data, and that our agency as humans is being eroded as a result.
According to Professor Floridi, the digital divide has caused a lack of balance between technological growth and our understanding of this growth. He believes that the infosphere is becoming polluted and the manifold of the infosphere is increasingly determined by technology and AI. Identifying, anticipating and resolving these problems has become essential, and Professor Floridi has dedicated his research to the Philosophy of Information, Philosophy of Technology and Digital Ethics.
We must equip ourselves with a viable philosophy of information to help us better understand and address the risks of this new information age. Professor Floridi is leading the charge, and his research on Digital Ethics, the Philosophy of Information and the Philosophy of Technology is helping us to better anticipate, identify and resolve problems caused by the digital divide.
TOC:
[00:00:00] Introduction to Luciano and his ideas
[00:14:39] Chat GPT / language models
[00:29:24] AI risk / "Singularitarians"
[00:37:53] Forms of governance
[00:44:35] Re-ontologising the world
[00:55:35] It from bit and Computationalism and philosophy without purpose
[01:03:43] Getting into Digital Ethics
Interviewer: Dr. Tim Scarfe
References:
GPT‐3: Its Nature, Scope, Limits, and Consequences [Floridi]
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...
Ultraintelligent Machines, Singularity, and Other Sci-fi Distractions about AI [Floridi]
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...
The Philosophy of Information [Floridi]
www.amazon.co.uk/Philosophy-I...
Information: A Very Short Introduction [Floridi]
www.amazon.co.uk/Information-...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciano...
www.philosophyofinformation.net/
I don't think I've heard a more well spoken person than prof Floridi, genuinely incredible man
Why say that?
The opposite to self interest is socialism/communism/dictator. Never ever preach anything but self interest. Any dilution of self interest means the "Duty enforced by others to help another or rocks - but something you did NOT sign up for". That is a dictatorship.
Please never ever go that direction again. The only correct and absolute ethics is self interest: the inalienable rights of man as the founding fathers of the U.S.A nailed, from the British guy actually - John Locke, amongst others. The only correct economics is also from another British guy [Adam Smith - a moral philosopher as he was called]. In the U.S.A this is capitalism: my property rights is a corollary of my right to sustain life in ethics.
Anything other than self interest is socailism: with red you are forced to sacrifice your life [not a choice] for your neighbor; with green it is the same thing but replace neighbor for 'rocks and water' ! It's a scam: it all goes to government. This is not the purpose of liberty, of a democracy.
The only purpose of a democracy [akin to Statism but nuanced] is to PROTECT THE SOVEREIGN. Who is the Sovereign? It's you! Yes, YOU! Every citizen is a Sovereign with inalienable rights [i.e self interest] in a democracy.
So any alternative to this is ipso facto socialism [NAZI is socialism but so is the red type]. Never go that way again in your talks.
Thank goodness he's bringing up the environmental aspects, future generations and human dignity, considerations that are often lest in the dust....
Phenomenal and very thought provoking! Thank you Tim.
No it is not phenomenal. I wrote to the Professor - "this part is complete nonsense : "self interest can only go so far" [link below]. So what is the other side? Communism. To heck with this European communism. I am in America - you do not do that nonsense, that evil against fellow man here. [2] Also all this evil talk about the environment . Who is that? Rocks ? Water?
To heck with that. WE FOUGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE IN 1776 against the horror of socialism. "Green" is t "red" in a new color.
With "red" you sacrifice your life for another person - not by choice but the devil of altruism, "force" by government. With "Green" is the same thing such as restricting human beings, shareholders, industry [euphemistically called 'regulations"] and then on top of that by weakening the industry STEALING from people [taxation].
Never - ever - do that here. Never ever do it there in Great Britain. Please - enough. I will write to the Professor directly. It is PURE EVIL. There is no satan. But there is evil: when another man subverts democracy to use force against another citizen. You can NOT have the tyranny of the majority against the one [me], against the few [me: capitalists, the few at the top, the 1% of us that make more income than YOU and your entire family - heck MORE than your ENTIRE street makes]. Yet you want to steal from me, to take away my property via corporate tax, "sales tax" and all tax. You will NOT be doing this evil.
And for what ? For "green"? Are you kidding me? You can not steal from another. LOOK AT ITALY'S SICKENING economics. Yet you want to smash U.K and other nations like the U.S.A using "Green"? Come on now. That is just pure evil. That is NOT the purpose a democracy.
The only purpose of a democracy [the best system] is for government to protect "me" against people LIKE YOU . Literally - using the military, using the law courts [e.g. if you try to steal from me such as taxation] and the police. The purpose is not to turn the government into a MAFIA that work on your behalf to "take form me" [taxation] or restrict [e.g. preventing companies from fracking, drilling, mining , oil and gas guzzling] to the sickness called "save the environment". What utter nonsense is this, eh?
Link ua-cam.com/video/YLNGvvgq3eg/v-deo.html
ME: mary's mother has three children tell me the name of one of her children
CHATGPT: One of the children is named Mary.
This channel is just amazing in it´s evergreen quality.
I love the format of this video, the subtle music in the introduction is a very nice touch. Excellent discussion too.
I like the name ..informational organisms 👍🏼☀️🌎
Sign of a great talk is when you want to listen to more, so ended up putting the world on hold and listened to it again. Amazing discussion! Thanks Tim. Mike
Thanks Mike!
I usually really like your talks but this one drove me up the wall!
@@MachineLearningStreetTalk The opposite to self interest is socialism/communism/dictator. Never ever preach anything but self interest. Any dilution of self interest means the "Duty enforced by others to help another or rocks - but something you did NOT sign up for". That is a dictatorship.
Please never ever go that direction again. The only correct and absolute ethics is self interest: the inalienable rights of man as the founding fathers of the U.S.A nailed, from the British guy actually - John Locke, amongst others. The only correct economics is also from another British guy [Adam Smith - a moral philosopher as he was called]. In the U.S.A this is capitalism: my property rights is a corollary of my right to sustain life in ethics.
Anything other than self interest is socailism: with red you are forced to sacrifice your life [not a choice] for your neighbor; with green it is the same thing but replace neighbor for 'rocks and water' ! It's a scam: it all goes to government. This is not the purpose of liberty, of a democracy.
The only purpose of a democracy [akin to Statism but nuanced] is to PROTECT THE SOVEREIGN. Who is the Sovereign? It's you! Yes, YOU! Every citizen is a Sovereign with inalienable rights [i.e self interest] in a democracy.
So any alternative to this is ipso facto socialism [NAZI is socialism but so is the red type]. Never go that way again in your talks.
Floridi calrity of thought remarkeble, he already sets a human agenda for this century
This talk reminds me of a Woody Allen joke.
“I’m depressed. Last month my father got replaced by a machine. It does everything my father does but it does it better and in half the time.
“What’s depressing is that my mother rushed out and bought two of them.”
Great interview, and thanks for the illuminating content!
This was such a beautiful intro, amazing ASMR qualities with both the guests and your matching vocal tones and the music seeping in on the background... Well done... And the content was fire as always... 😊👍 Kudos...
Fantastic work and interview. Ioved the re-ontologisation perspective in particular when it's combined with the digital divide. I also really was inspired by the the shift between first to third order ontologies. The shift from man machine nature to computer robot car . Somewhere in that transition might be the potent opportunity of transitioning to more enlightened humans (at least this is what I hope we collectively aspire to do). And last, thank you for your amazing active listening skills and allowing the guest speak fully without interruption. Watched three episodes of your works and found so many good references for my own work. Keep producing great content.
Dr. Shima - listen , it was not fantastic.
The opposite to self interest is socialism/communism/dictator. Never ever preach anything but self interest. Any dilution of self interest means the "Duty enforced by others to help another or rocks - but something you did NOT sign up for". That is a dictatorship.
Please never ever go that direction again. The only correct and absolute ethics is self interest: the inalienable rights of man as the founding fathers of the U.S.A nailed, from the British guy actually - John Locke, amongst others. The only correct economics is also from another British guy [Adam Smith - a moral philosopher as he was called]. In the U.S.A this is capitalism: my property rights is a corollary of my right to sustain life in ethics.
Anything other than self interest is socailism: with red you are forced to sacrifice your life [not a choice] for your neighbor; with green it is the same thing but replace neighbor for 'rocks and water' ! It's a scam: it all goes to government. This is not the purpose of liberty, of a democracy.
The only purpose of a democracy [akin to Statism but nuanced] is to PROTECT THE SOVEREIGN. Who is the Sovereign? It's you! Yes, YOU! Every citizen is a Sovereign with inalienable rights [i.e self interest] in a democracy.
So any alternative to this is ipso facto socialism [NAZI is socialism but so is the red type]. Never go that way again in your talks.
It's so nice to listen to Floridi explaining things in English, cause when he explains in Italian sounds like in front of 5 years old kids that must be entertained with jokes and sounds more then interesting content
At 27:36 he refers to the "pollution of the infosphere" as coming from LLMs.
I understood it as coming from the public on social media!
It is so cool to be alive at the moment and being able to have all of this beautiful information at our fingertips.
I couldn't detect much in the way of philosophy here but there was plenty of epistemological arrogance and crass judgements, for example, 'you can't trust these pesky people who voted for Brexit'. At that point this discussion descended into petty politics.There are serious issues to be discussed but not by assuming that you are immune from the problems while the rest are too stupid to see the dangers.
59:00
It's interesting because Chomsky said the exact same thing about the ship of theseus question.
Thank you Tim
Nice audio engineering
Brilliant video! Also, during the interview, you two look alike!
Replay! Full watch! Very interesting
The questions is simple and straightforward. How long can we allow a bunch of hyper rich guys deploy no matter what tech into society and let them keep the profits whereas society is left with the negative consequences? Remember that Hitler was a direct answer to the industrial Revolution. This attitude of "privatized profits socialized loses" needs to stop.
How is the chinese room argument of any use when you can replace the room easily with the brain? Replace the slit with sensory input, the handbook with the wiring of the brain and the activity of the agent inside the room with neuron activity. In the same way the argument demonstrates that the room has no understanding it demonstrates that the brain has no understanding. We wouldn't question the latter, would we?
talk so nice i listened twice
He is great.
I typed in "Mary's mother has three children. Tell me the name of one of them." and ChatGPT responded "One of the children's name is Mary.". Couldn't fool it there!
This was as good as Karl Friston!!! Please do a round 2 for 3 hours with this man!!
Governments will absolutely use this data to skew public sentiment as they always have with communications
Of the two scenarios he gives in conclusion it is obvious how this will pan out.
first normal italian i've ever seen
He's talking about behaviorism? Like behavioral psychology vs. cognitive psychology?
He looks like he could be your Dad 😅
The closer I look, the more uncanny the resemblance gets 😂
Simulated training environments
I am not a robot,
What is the moving camera up to? Is it AI?
Lol! Random walk :)
damn haha
1:02:30 ! an urgent message for the Anglo-Saxons dabbling in philosophy
- also, how about doing an interview with Hugo de Garis (apropos the schisma between non- & believers?)
Bing Chat responds: This is a riddle. The answer is Mary. The other two children are April and May.😉
I don’t get it. Can you explain?
Profilicity
But who said you know that your good is good for others out there too. Why do people always just so decide for others tooythinking they are advanced enough to know. I believe that your constant efforts to evolve took us back into middle age before (remember Atlantis) so just do for yourself and let others decide what they want. Because we dont need the same thing, some people do while others won't like it at all. Please stop PLANING AHEAD FOR MILLENIA. I don't live that long. And I want nothing at all, because I know you never get enough. And so you just carry on ,being arrogant as you believe if you can you will change this world for everyone. Why do you ? Is this world yours? No,because I know that not only you was there when it came to be a place to live forever and ever...and some just like it simple, after all.
Alas, Chat GOT is heavily wokified and therefore completetely untrustworthy. Unethical research.
what is Chat GOT?
Its been known for years that ALL AI, so far, has programmed bias.
@@noomade
"O" and "P" keys are next to each other on a keyboard...
@@Hexanitrobenzene No shit sherlock!