Not just that but he stated that the 5700x doesn’t come with a stock cooler which means he got the spire free elsewhere but the prism is also a free cooler that comes with higher rated CPU’s Plus the spire is 64w and prism is 105w which he has conveniently left out of the free listing
bought one a while ago for 12 bucks unused. It's nice and quiet. It makes the system looks more premium. But I do use cheapo Coolmoon RGB fans. They are dirt cheap, 6 with controller for 20 bucks. Fans are ok, controller is freaking ugly.
I've been using one on a 2600x since 2019 and its done well. Fan is dying and getting loud though so im actually swapping it out for a $19 dell clone of it i found on ebay
He gets a small incentive when you buy the coolers from the link in the description. In my country, PC stores usually upsell their customers to get better cooler for higher CPU models. Then resell the Wraith Prism cheaply
You should really look at the Thermalright coolers like 4-heatpipe Assassin Spirit for 20$, 6-heatpipe Burst Assassin for 25$, 6-heatpipe dual tower Peerless Assassin 120 SE for 35$, 7-heatpipe dual tower Phantom Spirit 120 for 45$. My 5700X won't go over 55 degrees with the Phantom Spirit 120.
I second this! I have the Thermalright FS140 on my 5700x and it runs really cool. Stock it says around 55 degrees. With some pbo/curve tuning I can get it to run as fast as 5800x in CB at about 75 degrees max, or slightly slower and never go over 60 degrees. Thermalright makes the best bang for your buck coolers. Also just got a used 3800x with a brand new wraith prism and in stress test it hits about 80 degrees max which isn't bad for a free cooler.
@@SianaGearz classic? im pretty sure they poped up in the past 10-15 years (at least in the western market) but yes thier prices are great when you can get a dual tower that cost less than a low profile cooler... yes the prices are great!
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i was using it on my 5700x and it runs great, but sometimes i felt little bit toasty when i game, i switched to a thermalright burst assasin and 10c less for me it was great upgrade and cheap 23 dollars at that time even come with rgb
I bought 2x MT6s coolers a few years ago to cool DUAL 2699v3 18 core Xeons. At FULL load under cinebench R23, these CPUs were about 60-70c (the back one is usually 5-10c hotter). For $50, I cooled both CPUs. If I had purchased a bigger name brand cooler I would have had to shell out $35-50 per cooler and could have cost me almost double the money. EXCELLENT cooler.
that's the gimped spire, the oldschool one with the copper slug is the goat, AMD took out the copper and put on a fan that goes twice as fast and way louder
I kinda hate the clip style cooler. I had a Snowman tower one (thanks to your suggestion) it works really well on one build but I decided to get the ID-Cooling SE-35 for another build just because it's far easier to install. The fear of damaging the cpu lid is too high for me even though my tiny hands aren't that strong. lol
True. I replaced my Snowman M400 a few hours ago with Thermalright Assassin X 120 White ARGB with the help of a guy friend coz I didn't have the hand strength to remove it (I'm a girl). TR is SOOO much easier and safer to install since I also have tiny hands. And also in my tropical country the M400 wasn't cutting it on my new Ryzen 5 5600. I previously had a 4600g and it was max 60c gaming hence I went with the M400 coz cheap.
Bryan, I own a 5700g cpu and it scores way higher in r23. To the tune of 15,000 points. I was led to believe the 5700x was better than it’s apu counterpart
I believe he's running these tests at stock without PBO enabled as with PBO a 5700x becomes a 5800x. My 5900x does 23,000ish so I'd expect an uncorked 5700x to do 2/3 of that. The main difference between 5700x and 5700g is 5700x has double the cache which accounts for its better gaming performance over the "G" apu counterpart.
@@star5328 I know but I still scored 13500 bottom without PBO so I’m figuring there’s something up with the mobo bios or the mobo itself. I use about 95w on pbo and 85 without on an r23 run
Using my old AMD Wraith Max (from my old FX8350) and it rarely exceeds 68 Celsius! Planning on buying a Thermalright Phantom Spirit SE as a replacement next summer!!
Isn't 80 degree the thermal throttle for non OC 5700X? Did I miss some explaination from you? Do you have a graph of the Core Clocks during testing? I suspect your 8$ new fav caused the 5700X to call down clock speeds. Your test might be flawed. Suggestion, log core clocks. Fix MHz.
95c is the thermal limit unless you lower it in bios. I lowered mine to 85c and fixed fan speed at 180rpm, can still maintain max clocks during gaming of 4.65ghz.
I just got a Thermalright Phantom Spirit and slapped that on an i7 8700K, on stock clocks and 100% CPU utilization it stays under 80°C on 20-25% fanspeed. Hella impressed with a 45€ cooler!
I’ve had a ID Cooling AIO and thought it performed well then compared to a Corsair 240mm and the difference was night and day. Ended up installing Corsair maglev but would go for thermal take noctua clones.
Nice, It comes with the good thermal paste too. Have a few TR coolers, PA & PS ones. Bought an FS. Might have to pick up one of these too, throw on a lower end build but this has good TDP rating also.
vetroo also makes a 92mm downdraft called Shadow for $10. nice installation it screws into backplate (no clips, pushpins etc). the metal is all black, has argb. i was using intel stock cooler on 10100f and it is noticeable more quiet and cooling is a bit better too
Great! I need a compact cooler for my dads hackintosh build rocking a i3 10105f. He thought the stock cooler was to loud and I can't blame him. I wonder how the one you mention compare to the reviewed one? This was 120mm, right?
IIRC both are rated for 90w so with low power cpus like these it's going to be fine. I've never run cinebench for max temps but idle is 38, youtube/internet 43-45, gaming 45-65 depending on how heavy it is@@ChrisKadaver
Some caution needed with the mounting ring for Intel. Ring plus clip can foul the chokes or VRM heatsinks on some boards. Also, the pins are harder to remove than the standard Intel twist release push pins. Yes, I got the ring installed before finding the wouldn't clear the chokes
really like your good reviews, and trying some other parts, mostly no-one else will do. (other parts is going to cheaper B class products and trying them out and save some bucks)
Undervolt? Ive overclocked a 5700x with the AK400 lol. Definitely overkill if youre trying to undervolt, the stock wraith prism that came with the 5700x works fine for that.
I've been using the JONSBO CR1000 PRO CPU Cooler on my 3700X for over a year and temps stay 130-150 gaming and it's completely silent. $24US at Newegg.
Because you are seemingly the only English speaking person who has one - is that plastic bracket included with the Snowman M400 compatible with LGA 1700/Intel 12-14th gen? And do you think this entry level model is still a meaningful upgrade over the Intel stock cooler?
@@techyescity Thanks. I'm kind of height limited due to the case and just hope it will do as good or better than the stock cooler on 65W if that thing turns out to be too loud.
I got my 5700x using a thermalright PS120SE with 2 120mm fans and 7 heat pipes... My 5700x hits 15,200 score on multi core using Cinabench R23 and in gaming the all core hits 4.7 boosts to 5ghz on some cores and of course I did some SERIOUS tweaking in the bios to get this performance. All CORE with Cinabench is only 4.42 -4.5. The CPU will draw over 130 watts and temps max at 72c under full stress load with fan curve tweaked as well.
the only anti real world results is, the tests was done on an open testing bench set-up. it doesnt really put into equation how the fans will deal with the ambient temp, case config and air flow.
I'm a big fan of the Dell AM4 Heatsink PN: VH4P7. It kept my 5700g all core @ 4.6 GHz under 65° C. I currently have it on My 5800X3D, but it can't do all core on stock. I'm looking for a beefer heatsink for it currently.
I’m using a 5700x thing overclocks with ryzen master auto oc extremely well. 4.7 on my particular one. if you want to try it do the per core it's better. im using a Deep cool castle rgb 280mm works fine. the nzxt kraken x63 280mm works well too.
@@jeroen5736 I play games fine. I don’t know what to tell you it works stays at 4.6-4.7 stable. Ryzen master does test for stability and it gives a conservative oc on things. So I should have more in the tank. I paly strategy games 4x specifically at 1440p 144hz and the room gets warm no crashes i'll see what the temps are. i should be more specific i don't run it like that on OC it boosts to 4.65 on its own stock and i haven’t sat there and watched how long that is for. My system spec: 5700x, b550 tomahawk max Wi-Fi, 32gb 3600mhz, msi 1000w gold, EVGA rtx 3090. Lian-li case, 2tb Samsung 990pro with heatsink, 2tb Samsung 980pro, 1tb Sata ssd team group, 3tb hdd.
@@michaelwoods7770 nice system! are you using curve optimizer ? i do all -25 with +150. that works for me. i use the Arctic liquid freezer ii 360 . msi meg x570 unify, 4x 16gb ram @ 3733 6700xt, 2Tb viper VP4300L.
Do note people that the 5700x can easily run at 4.5ghz+ all core load with PBO and +200mhz autooc clockspeed. It is going to use greater than 65w(77w ppt) and settle above 100watts+ ppt. R23 scores go from 12k to mid 15k to even 16k if u have pretty good cooling and ambient temps.
@@star5328 Yeah I have a 5700x and if I run it using a 3000 series wraith stealth with the tiny ass heatsink it goes up to 85-90C on 30C ambient temps hahaha with average clocks of 4.0-4.1 with the same scores as this video, quite bad compared to a cheap tower cooler.
@@kleptodathief3946 yea use pbo with curve optimizer and try to undervolt to -30 and run some stability tests if it crashes go to -25 and try stability tests again, if it rashes -20. so forth and so on. that's and overclock + undervolt to keep temps in check. I'm pretty sure the x3ds have curve optimizer my 5900x does so I think all zen 3 will use curve optimizer.
I know the Snowman has went up in price the past few years, but have you crowned a new king? I used it a lot and compared with other cheap coolers. It always won. These cheap two heatpipe Chinese coolers I been testing can't hardly keep a X5570 cool lol.
Can really relate to this video. My 5800X was running stupid hot on an air cooler and I felt I had to get a 360mm water cooler for it. 30 to 40C lower now and the air coming out doesn't even feel warm. Quiet is not a factor. The case has 8 fans including the AIO and It's far too loud in my house from other things.
There is so much performance headroom on the Wraith Spire that you can just trim it to run more silently... it's not going to match the M400, which is much more efficient, by far not, but it seems like a fundamentally better cooler than the Darkstorm.
Snowman MT6S on push pull setup lasted me 3yrs and it cooled the crap outta my cpu for $12 (max temp only reached 62c gaming). I just switched cuz I got a free 360mm AIO lmao
Another timely clip, was looking at going from a R5 3600 to a 5700X for extra couple of cores. Then flip my older rig, being the AM, at a later date. But then 5700X 3d. Waiting again lol.4. But then 5
On a budget build, when the buyer is going to drop by or your delivering. The cpu cooler can always be an upgrade at any point, along with the cpu. Pass that info to the buyer and it is a done deal.
Brian has left it stock. Ive enabled PBO and Curve optimizer on mine. It pulls 150w and scores 16300 at 4725mhz all core in cb23. Absolute beast of chip in my opinion
Always Love A Great deal but when I upgraded to a Ryzen 5950x last year or maybe the year b for (i cant remember for sure) i wanted a great bang for the buck and i already had a really good x570 bord Asus Rog Crosshair hero and really didn't make sense for me to spend all the money on a entire platform up grade so i just bought a new Ryzen 9 5950X But you bet your but i looked for the best deal i could find even though it still was not cheep i still managed to save 200$ + and That was a deal imho ..lol. and for what i do its still a beast paired with a 3080Ti
ouch, just remember curve optimizer and some tweaks you can run cooler with her clocks. mine holds 4.85 no problem in all core with pbo -25-30 all core. uses about 100w max all core with minus 30 you will need to tweak edc etc but tis not that hard good boost if you have a higher end gpu
Personally would stump up the little bit extra for the thermalright twin towers for ~$50AUD Great on any pretty much any current CPU and room for upgrades down the track with its heat dissipation
I have the same cooler since a 2nd gen intel. No need to look for a new one because a standard 120mm fan fits and it can be replaced when it breaks. I don't trust these custom designs in the video.
Tried cooler very similar to that vetroo M2, 120mm fan, and it couldn't keep up and outperform stock cooler. i5 11400. It's not abot fan, it's about heat sink, which is not bulky enough on those type of coolers.
By being more noisy and hotter? I guess you could say that. This Darkstorm is not good, no better than Spire. The fins are too thin and have too much thermal impedance to the core. The fan blows on the cold part instead of the hot part. It's not a good product. Spire noisy? Yeah but at the garbage thermal performance the Darkstorm is delivering, you have a lot of capability to quieten the Spire down to match it. The Snowmen do look genuinely good though.
point of story are that zen3 are not worth now over zen4 entry level cpus which are faster overall, i found that you can buy r5 7500f/7600 which are 180-195$ + a620 which are 75$ and 16gb ddr5 5600mhz for 50$ and that will be better for gaming and productivity too then 5700x + other hardware
I built my AM5 rig for less than $800usd. 240-AIO/R5-7600g/a620m-e/32gb 5800, 1Tb.Nvme/Sapphire Rx5700xt OC. I DO HEAVY gaming and 3d printing/ modeling in blender and MeshMixer. Runs like a champion.
I woner how these fairly low profile coolers compare to like noctuas expensive low profile coolers? If you can fit on of these in your compact build, maybe it's a win? :)
According to the review, the standard AMD cooler is just fine and does not make sense to buy cheap cooler that are worse. I have a good experience with Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120. My Ryzen 5700G is making over 14000 in Cinebench R23.
Fortunately, the Ryzen 7 5700X only has a 65w TDP, so it shouldn't take too much to keep the chip relatively cool, unless you're overclocking. Now, the 5800X and 5800X3D probably need more to keep the temps down.
Overclocking will make very little to no difference, R5 2600 is just too weak for the RTX 3080. Would be a better idea to upgrade at least to an R5 5600.
I used an ID Cooling 240mm AIO on a Ryzen 9 5900X CPU and it was the absolute worst at cooling. It's just simply a poor product. I'll stick with Cooler Master's AIOs for water-cooling.
my 5700x is using 130w in cinebench r23 and i hit 15906 . with pbo and " stuff" . no way i could get that score with an air cooler. i used to have a d15 that even didnt do it for me .
The Wraith Prism is also a really nice cooler for the 5700X and sometimes it can be found really cheap
Not just that but he stated that the 5700x doesn’t come with a stock cooler which means he got the spire free elsewhere but the prism is also a free cooler that comes with higher rated CPU’s
Plus the spire is 64w and prism is 105w which he has conveniently left out of the free listing
bought one a while ago for 12 bucks unused. It's nice and quiet. It makes the system looks more premium. But I do use cheapo Coolmoon RGB fans. They are dirt cheap, 6 with controller for 20 bucks. Fans are ok, controller is freaking ugly.
$45 Directly from AMD
I've been using one on a 2600x since 2019 and its done well. Fan is dying and getting loud though so im actually swapping it out for a $19 dell clone of it i found on ebay
He gets a small incentive when you buy the coolers from the link in the description. In my country, PC stores usually upsell their customers to get better cooler for higher CPU models. Then resell the Wraith Prism cheaply
You should really look at the Thermalright coolers like 4-heatpipe Assassin Spirit for 20$, 6-heatpipe Burst Assassin for 25$, 6-heatpipe dual tower Peerless Assassin 120 SE for 35$, 7-heatpipe dual tower Phantom Spirit 120 for 45$. My 5700X won't go over 55 degrees with the Phantom Spirit 120.
I second this! I have the Thermalright FS140 on my 5700x and it runs really cool. Stock it says around 55 degrees. With some pbo/curve tuning I can get it to run as fast as 5800x in CB at about 75 degrees max, or slightly slower and never go over 60 degrees. Thermalright makes the best bang for your buck coolers. Also just got a used 3800x with a brand new wraith prism and in stress test it hits about 80 degrees max which isn't bad for a free cooler.
Thermalright are amazing.
One of the CLASSIC cooler manufacturers, among the most trusted in the industry, offering prices like that, is sort of crazy!
@@SianaGearz classic? im pretty sure they poped up in the past 10-15 years (at least in the western market)
but yes thier prices are great when you can get a dual tower that cost less than a low profile cooler... yes the prices are great!
PA 120 SE 6 pipes, rated lower tdp than PS 120 7 heat pipes
PS 140 within margin of error of the other two
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1:53 The Wraith Spire (1st gen) with a 2nd gen fan is even better, since it has a copper vapor chamber! It cooled my old 2600X like a charm.
I also did a similar thing. I have a wraith spire with the copper core and used the fan from the wraith stealth that came with my ryzen 5 7600.
I have the original Wraith Spire with copper core, still unused in the box. 😃
i was using it on my 5700x and it runs great, but sometimes i felt little bit toasty when i game, i switched to a thermalright burst assasin and 10c less for me it was great upgrade and cheap 23 dollars at that time even come with rgb
I bought 2x MT6s coolers a few years ago to cool DUAL 2699v3 18 core Xeons. At FULL load under cinebench R23, these CPUs were about 60-70c (the back one is usually 5-10c hotter). For $50, I cooled both CPUs. If I had purchased a bigger name brand cooler I would have had to shell out $35-50 per cooler and could have cost me almost double the money.
EXCELLENT cooler.
As a side note I tested the SAME coolers on dual 2666v3 CPUs and they were 50-60c under full load.
Just solid cooling for the money.
Great video like always ! Keep them coming !
actually im using the veetro now for almost 4 years now and still keeps the temps in control.....by the way love the vids mate.....
that's the gimped spire, the oldschool one with the copper slug is the goat, AMD took out the copper and put on a fan that goes twice as fast and way louder
I got the older one with my 2600x, it always seemed too hot. Put a Pure Rock 2 on it and was a lot cooler!
Cool video. Im running a r5 3600 with one of those am3+ clip on coolers I found in a pc store dumpster, actually runs pretty cool!
I kinda hate the clip style cooler. I had a Snowman tower one (thanks to your suggestion) it works really well on one build but I decided to get the ID-Cooling SE-35 for another build just because it's far easier to install. The fear of damaging the cpu lid is too high for me even though my tiny hands aren't that strong. lol
True. I replaced my Snowman M400 a few hours ago with Thermalright Assassin X 120 White ARGB with the help of a guy friend coz I didn't have the hand strength to remove it (I'm a girl). TR is SOOO much easier and safer to install since I also have tiny hands. And also in my tropical country the M400 wasn't cutting it on my new Ryzen 5 5600. I previously had a 4600g and it was max 60c gaming hence I went with the M400 coz cheap.
Yes man been uploading daily
and I LOVE IT
Bryan, I own a 5700g cpu and it scores way higher in r23. To the tune of 15,000 points. I was led to believe the 5700x was better than it’s apu counterpart
I believe he's running these tests at stock without PBO enabled as with PBO a 5700x becomes a 5800x. My 5900x does 23,000ish so I'd expect an uncorked 5700x to do 2/3 of that. The main difference between 5700x and 5700g is 5700x has double the cache which accounts for its better gaming performance over the "G" apu counterpart.
@@star5328 I know but I still scored 13500 bottom without PBO so I’m figuring there’s something up with the mobo bios or the mobo itself. I use about 95w on pbo and 85 without on an r23 run
Using my old AMD Wraith Max (from my old FX8350) and it rarely exceeds 68 Celsius! Planning on buying a Thermalright Phantom Spirit SE as a replacement next summer!!
Isn't 80 degree the thermal throttle for non OC 5700X?
Did I miss some explaination from you?
Do you have a graph of the Core Clocks during testing?
I suspect your 8$ new fav caused the 5700X to call down clock speeds.
Your test might be flawed.
Suggestion, log core clocks. Fix MHz.
Yeah i don't think it's doing all too great tbh.
95c is the thermal limit unless you lower it in bios. I lowered mine to 85c and fixed fan speed at 180rpm, can still maintain max clocks during gaming of 4.65ghz.
that 8 dollar cooler it just emergency for pc use when you just got a pc build, comes in pretty handy
I just got a Thermalright Phantom Spirit and slapped that on an i7 8700K, on stock clocks and 100% CPU utilization it stays under 80°C on 20-25% fanspeed. Hella impressed with a 45€ cooler!
I love yer Aliexpress cheap component content!
❤ I got that cpu used, I put an Antec 360 rad three fans. Case is the Antec performance f1T
I’ve had a ID Cooling AIO and thought it performed well then compared to a Corsair 240mm and the difference was night and day. Ended up installing Corsair maglev but would go for thermal take noctua clones.
I have the 5700x coupled with a Noctua NH-U12S Redux. Keeps my CPU running at 48-54C during gaming. Really, really impressed with it!
It's ugly and way overpriced for the performance. You'd be getting similar performance on a cooler that's half the price.
thermalright burst assasin was almost the same price of the snowman mt6s and both are 6 heatpipe heatsink very good temps too
Nice, It comes with the good thermal paste too. Have a few TR coolers, PA & PS ones. Bought an FS. Might have to pick up one of these too, throw on a lower end build but this has good TDP rating also.
vetroo also makes a 92mm downdraft called Shadow for $10. nice installation it screws into backplate (no clips, pushpins etc). the metal is all black, has argb.
i was using intel stock cooler on 10100f and it is noticeable more quiet and cooling is a bit better too
Yeah cheers for that, will keep that on the radar as well.
Great! I need a compact cooler for my dads hackintosh build rocking a i3 10105f. He thought the stock cooler was to loud and I can't blame him. I wonder how the one you mention compare to the reviewed one? This was 120mm, right?
IIRC both are rated for 90w so with low power cpus like these it's going to be fine.
I've never run cinebench for max temps but idle is 38, youtube/internet 43-45, gaming 45-65 depending on how heavy it is@@ChrisKadaver
Some caution needed with the mounting ring for Intel. Ring plus clip can foul the chokes or VRM heatsinks on some boards.
Also, the pins are harder to remove than the standard Intel twist release push pins.
Yes, I got the ring installed before finding the wouldn't clear the chokes
Deepcool hv decent coolers aswell
Currently use the 4500 with 92mm variant
It's the ag300 and ul551
really like your good reviews, and trying some other parts, mostly no-one else will do. (other parts is going to cheaper B class products and trying them out and save some bucks)
I use The Deepcool ak400 with an extra fan installed on my Ryzen 5700X. It stays cool with undervolting.
Undervolt? Ive overclocked a 5700x with the AK400 lol. Definitely overkill if youre trying to undervolt, the stock wraith prism that came with the 5700x works fine for that.
2:07 That was an aggressive 'mate'!
he comes day brian with library of budget coolers
Thermalright kicking it with the value for for money
I remember your first video on the Snowman. I went and ordered 5 at $15. I think they even shot up in price before I ordered them.
I've been using the JONSBO CR1000 PRO CPU Cooler on my 3700X for over a year and temps stay 130-150 gaming and it's completely silent. $24US at Newegg.
Maybe you can try jonsbo cr1400 evo , it has argb version and only cost under 10$
Because you are seemingly the only English speaking person who has one - is that plastic bracket included with the Snowman M400 compatible with LGA 1700/Intel 12-14th gen? And do you think this entry level model is still a meaningful upgrade over the Intel stock cooler?
be a bit too much heat for 12-14th gen imo, but it will fit fine, as the brackets are there for lga1700.
@@techyescity
Thanks. I'm kind of height limited due to the case and just hope it will do as good or better than the stock cooler on 65W if that thing turns out to be too loud.
I got my 5700x using a thermalright PS120SE with 2 120mm fans and 7 heat pipes... My 5700x hits 15,200 score on multi core using Cinabench R23 and in gaming the all core hits 4.7 boosts to 5ghz on some cores and of course I did some SERIOUS tweaking in the bios to get this performance. All CORE with Cinabench is only 4.42 -4.5. The CPU will draw over 130 watts and temps max at 72c under full stress load with fan curve tweaked as well.
the only anti real world results is, the tests was done on an open testing bench set-up. it doesnt really put
into equation how the fans will deal with the ambient temp, case config and air flow.
Snowman banging out that global cooling as always
I'm a big fan of the Dell AM4 Heatsink PN: VH4P7. It kept my 5700g all core @ 4.6 GHz under 65° C. I currently have it on My 5800X3D, but it can't do all core on stock. I'm looking for a beefer heatsink for it currently.
I was just about to tell you to take a look to Thermalright coolers and fans, but, lol, look at the comments!
I’m using a 5700x thing overclocks with ryzen master auto oc extremely well. 4.7 on my particular one. if you want to try it do the per core it's better. im using a Deep cool castle rgb 280mm works fine. the nzxt kraken x63 280mm works well too.
yea no way you can cool that with air xD like mine boost up to 4800. used to be4850 but that did not realy give more performance .
@@jeroen5736 I play games fine. I don’t know what to tell you it works stays at 4.6-4.7 stable. Ryzen master does test for stability and it gives a conservative oc on things. So I should have more in the tank. I paly strategy games 4x specifically at 1440p 144hz and the room gets warm no crashes i'll see what the temps are. i should be more specific i don't run it like that on OC it boosts to 4.65 on its own stock and i haven’t sat there and watched how long that is for. My system spec: 5700x, b550 tomahawk max Wi-Fi, 32gb 3600mhz, msi 1000w gold, EVGA rtx 3090. Lian-li case, 2tb Samsung 990pro with heatsink, 2tb Samsung 980pro, 1tb Sata ssd team group, 3tb hdd.
@@michaelwoods7770 nice system! are you using curve optimizer ? i do all -25 with +150. that works for me. i use the Arctic liquid freezer ii 360 . msi meg x570 unify, 4x 16gb ram @ 3733 6700xt, 2Tb viper VP4300L.
Sure you can. Any $20 tower cooler.@@jeroen5736
Do note people that the 5700x can easily run at 4.5ghz+ all core load with PBO and +200mhz autooc clockspeed. It is going to use greater than 65w(77w ppt) and settle above 100watts+ ppt. R23 scores go from 12k to mid 15k to even 16k if u have pretty good cooling and ambient temps.
Yea these are definitely tests without PBO. If you turn on PBO the 5700x becomes a 5800x
@@star5328 Yeah I have a 5700x and if I run it using a 3000 series wraith stealth with the tiny ass heatsink it goes up to 85-90C on 30C ambient temps hahaha with average clocks of 4.0-4.1 with the same scores as this video, quite bad compared to a cheap tower cooler.
@@star5328 can i use PBO with the r7 5700x3d with stock amd wrath cooler with plastic fans
@@kleptodathief3946 yea use pbo with curve optimizer and try to undervolt to -30 and run some stability tests if it crashes go to -25 and try stability tests again, if it rashes -20. so forth and so on. that's and overclock + undervolt to keep temps in check. I'm pretty sure the x3ds have curve optimizer my 5900x does so I think all zen 3 will use curve optimizer.
@@star5328 do i need to have a good cpu cooler like the peerless assassin 120se or can i use a cheaper cooler?
I know the Snowman has went up in price the past few years, but have you crowned a new king? I used it a lot and compared with other cheap coolers. It always won. These cheap two heatpipe Chinese coolers I been testing can't hardly keep a X5570 cool lol.
I stuck a DeepCool Gammaxx 400 which is AM3 compatible on my 7800X3D.
Seem pretty fine. runs cool.
Thermalright Assassin X120 cost $19 and works on my 5800X budget build and for $60 Thermalright Frozen Prism 360 keeps my 7800X3D at 71 at full load
how about a phenom ii x6 cooler ? (basically wraith prism with a smaller fan and no rgb) :)
Can really relate to this video. My 5800X was running stupid hot on an air cooler and I felt I had to get a 360mm water cooler for it. 30 to 40C lower now and the air coming out doesn't even feel warm. Quiet is not a factor. The case has 8 fans including the AIO and It's far too loud in my house from other things.
There is so much performance headroom on the Wraith Spire that you can just trim it to run more silently... it's not going to match the M400, which is much more efficient, by far not, but it seems like a fundamentally better cooler than the Darkstorm.
Snowman MT6S on push pull setup lasted me 3yrs and it cooled the crap outta my cpu for $12 (max temp only reached 62c gaming). I just switched cuz I got a free 360mm AIO lmao
I recommend the phantom spirt 120 se replaced my aio on my 5800x and was great quiet and keeps it in 60s for gaming and below 80c under full load
Got the same CPU here but I had to go for a 360mm AIO to get decent temps.
How low can you go? Love this concept.
Another timely clip, was looking at going from a R5 3600 to a 5700X for extra couple of cores. Then flip my older rig, being the AM, at a later date. But then 5700X 3d. Waiting again lol.4. But then 5
would love to see a longevity test on the $8.00 cooler
Would like see a review of Thermalright fans and cpu coolers
PLEASE DO THIS WITH THE 5800X3D
I just replaced my 3600 with a 5700x. MX4 to MX6. Runs 10c cooler under Cinebench and 5c cooler in folding@home.
I recently picked up a Thermalright 240mm AIO for $50.00 and it seems pretty good. What do think of maybe a video on budget AIO's?
On a budget build, when the buyer is going to drop by or your delivering. The cpu cooler can always be an upgrade at any point, along with the cpu. Pass that info to the buyer and it is a done deal.
77watts in’s Cinebench? Mine pulls 125-130W in R23! With PBO I get 15600+ scores and around 4650Mhz all core. Did I get lucky with the silicon?
Brian has left it stock. Ive enabled PBO and Curve optimizer on mine. It pulls 150w and scores 16300 at 4725mhz all core in cb23. Absolute beast of chip in my opinion
Always Love A Great deal but when I upgraded to a Ryzen 5950x last year or maybe the year b for (i cant remember for sure) i wanted a great bang for the buck and i already had a really good x570 bord Asus Rog Crosshair hero and really didn't make sense for me to spend all the money on a entire platform up grade so i just bought a new Ryzen 9 5950X But you bet your but i looked for the best deal i could find even though it still was not cheep i still managed to save 200$ + and That was a deal imho ..lol. and for what i do its still a beast paired with a 3080Ti
ouch, just remember curve optimizer and some tweaks you can run cooler with her clocks. mine holds 4.85 no problem in all core with pbo -25-30 all core. uses about 100w max all core with minus 30 you will need to tweak edc etc but tis not that hard good boost if you have a higher end gpu
Personally would stump up the little bit extra for the thermalright twin towers for ~$50AUD
Great on any pretty much any current CPU and room for upgrades down the track with its heat dissipation
Great stuff
thanks for coveing the snowman m400. I hae an m400 cooling a xeon e5-2650 v2
I have the same cooler since a 2nd gen intel. No need to look for a new one because a standard 120mm fan fits and it can be replaced when it breaks. I don't trust these custom designs in the video.
isn't coolmoon and snowman made by the same factory? I swear they have the same product with different box and sticker.
How about using a Corsair H100i 240mm AIO cooler on an i7 8700k? The $300 PC I bought back in March of 2023 came with that cooler.
I know I could have gone cheaper, but I love my ak620. It's whisper quiet, and keeps my cpu at 45 C in game
I have 5700x with esports 33 cooler. Max temp i saw (gaming) was 63 celsious.
Tried cooler very similar to that vetroo M2, 120mm fan, and it couldn't keep up and outperform stock cooler. i5 11400. It's not abot fan, it's about heat sink, which is not bulky enough on those type of coolers.
Wait. Did the dark storm blow the snowman away?
By being more noisy and hotter? I guess you could say that. This Darkstorm is not good, no better than Spire. The fins are too thin and have too much thermal impedance to the core. The fan blows on the cold part instead of the hot part. It's not a good product. Spire noisy? Yeah but at the garbage thermal performance the Darkstorm is delivering, you have a lot of capability to quieten the Spire down to match it.
The Snowmen do look genuinely good though.
I've been using the ID cooling one
Next up is best budget/cheapest AIO testing
Need to try Deepcool AG400.
The *AG* version are cheaper then the AK.
I am using a Prism from my Ryzen 2600 before. Can this handle the 5700x?
point of story are that zen3 are not worth now over zen4 entry level cpus which are faster overall, i found that you can buy r5 7500f/7600 which are 180-195$ + a620 which are 75$ and 16gb ddr5 5600mhz for 50$ and that will be better for gaming and productivity too then 5700x + other hardware
I built my AM5 rig for less than $800usd. 240-AIO/R5-7600g/a620m-e/32gb 5800, 1Tb.Nvme/Sapphire Rx5700xt OC. I DO HEAVY gaming and 3d printing/ modeling in blender and MeshMixer. Runs like a champion.
Air cooling is sooo great on value
Your last month of videos aren't showing from the subs page, need to go channel>videos to see your latest stuff
Rx 6500 8gb already seems like to be a collector's item...
I woner how these fairly low profile coolers compare to like noctuas expensive low profile coolers? If you can fit on of these in your compact build, maybe it's a win? :)
According to the review, the standard AMD cooler is just fine and does not make sense to buy cheap cooler that are worse.
I have a good experience with Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120. My Ryzen 5700G is making over 14000 in Cinebench R23.
Loving them deals!
Fortunately, the Ryzen 7 5700X only has a 65w TDP, so it shouldn't take too much to keep the chip relatively cool, unless you're overclocking. Now, the 5800X and 5800X3D probably need more to keep the temps down.
hi brian , would you recommend overclocking ryzen 5 2600 with rtx 3080 or should i upgrade ??
My name isn't Brian but i think you may want a better CPU than that, you won't get too far by OC.
Overclocking will make very little to no difference, R5 2600 is just too weak for the RTX 3080. Would be a better idea to upgrade at least to an R5 5600.
definitely upgrade to either the 5700x or 5800x3d(whatever you can afford).
It's funny to have same cooler for ryzen 3 2200g and ryzen 7 5700x
you need the snowman
Only 77W in cinebench?
My 11400f does 135W 😅
I used an ID Cooling 240mm AIO on a Ryzen 9 5900X CPU and it was the absolute worst at cooling. It's just simply a poor product. I'll stick with Cooler Master's AIOs for water-cooling.
I have 5700x and i use pure rock slim 2 for it
I have Arctic Freezer 34 eSport will it be enough powerfull to cool ryzen 7 5700x? Currently I am with ryzen 5 1600 AF!
my 5700x is using 130w in cinebench r23 and i hit 15906 . with pbo and " stuff" . no way i could get that score with an air cooler.
i used to have a d15 that even didnt do it for me .
heck ya
does these soyo board provide resisable bar option for amd graphic card?
5700x is so nice to overclock - i get like 16k in r23 and 4,8Ghz when fully unlocked - but i dont think its worth the energy 🤣
Stop the fillers! We need part 3 im hyped
4 heatpipes or 6 is pretty much the same
I hate those clip coolers
seems like the chinese logo actually says “ice-man” rather than snowman
What about Ryzen 7 5800x ??
It would be cooked lmao
@@tyler6602I'am using 240 aio from deepcool 🥶
Literally no reason to buy these when Thermalright is so cheap, at least here where I live. They are about the same price and perform better.
Snowman?
I have a good air cooler, but im hitting 82 celcius. anyone have thoughts?