How difficult is raiding in LOST ARK?
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- Edit: From the time that I've made this video until now, they've nerfed this raid 5 times. Unfortunately, most of these mechanics are considerably more lenient/less punishing now, and some mechanics have been removed altogether to make the fight more public group friendly.
I made this video because people wanted to be able to share something with their friends to show them what Lost Ark raid fights were like at the highest level.
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Gifs of patterns are from an Inven text guide written by 최민호 기자 at 45 seconds: www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/...
Chapters:
00:00 - About the Raid
00:54 - Shape Gimmick #1
02:05 - Meteor Drop #1
03:03 - Sphere Neutralization Pattern
03:45 - Party Split Gimmick
04:39 - Freeza Pattern
05:34 - Meteor Drop #2 - Ігри
These are the major gimmick mechanics written out if I'm talking too fast and you're having difficulty understanding:
00:54 - At 180 lines of health, the first major gimmick happens.
All 8 players are given a black or a white shape. There are 4 shapes, so 2 people will get the same shape, one in black, one in white. At periodic intervals, shapes will be summoned while you’re DPSing Abrelshud that will float across the screen. You must collect a certain number of shapes depending on which shape you were assigned at the start of the mechanic. Circle must collect 2, square is 4, hexagon is 6, and star is 8. If you collect the wrong color shape, it’s considered -1. There will also be patterns that are needles that travel across the screen, homing in on a player for a few seconds before traveling in a straight line that if you’re hit by it, is 50% chance of a black or white shape (so it can help you, or set you back). The other mechanic are long line telegraphs across the entire map that if you’re hit do the same thing as the needle. There are two variants of that, one which also summons a needle which travels in the same direction at a high speed.
You must lower Abrelshud to 140 lines of health while collecting the correct number of shapes for every player. It’s common to have the correct number of stacks of your shape only to get screwed over by the last summoning of shapes, needles, and line telegraphs at around 145 lines.
If any of the 8 players has an incorrect number of stacks when entering the 140-line gimmick, it’s a guaranteed raid wipe and you must start over.
02:05 - At 140 lines, Abrelshud either has a circle or cross shape underneath her. This helps us determine where we need to stack with the other player to safely place a symbol on the ground for the next pattern. Before we stack, we have to dodge line laser telegraphs twice, with the second one giving us about one full second to converge with the other player. If done successful, all 4 pairs of players place down a symbol in four sections of the map evenly spaced from one another. Abrelshud proceeds to shift the map and one of the 8 players must guide a shaped meteor into the corresponding symbol placed in the previous mechanic. Failing to do so wipes the raid. While doing this, players have to dodge a lot of large AOE telegraphs, the red scary ones which are one-shots. The expanding black hole from the placed meteor also must be avoided, and if the black hole touches another safe spot also triggers a raid wipe.
If players are successful at placing all four meteors, then they proceed to the next phase which is a burn from 140 lines to 110 lines of health.
03:03 - At 110 lines of health, Abrelshud ports to the center and a short intermission plays. As two large spheres are being summoned into the map, there are glyphs on the ground which light up which tell us what to do in the next gimmick. The indicate the order in which the three major targets much be neutralized with fatigue damage from our spells. In this video, the left orb must be neutralized first, followed by the right orb, and finally Abrelshud herself must be neutralized. Doing this out of order wipes the raid and taking too long also wipes the raid.
At the same time, illusions of Abrelshud can spawn in up to 6 positions (3 above and 3 below). All six must be neutralized with a counter skill within 1 second of appearing. Failing to counter any of these illusions silences the raid and hits everyone with a raid wide, two of which is enough to kill any player.
If all illusions are successfully countered and the three main targets are neutralized in the correct order, you move on to the next phase.
03:45 - In the next phase, the two orbs that were just neutralized create two portals that each lead to a different cube mini boss in a separate area. To pass this gimmick, one player must collect 12 white orb buffs in the right portal and four players must collect 3 gold orb buffs in the left portal. The 12 white orb player should be a support since you take increasing damage over time for each white orb collected. At least one player must stay outside to deal with Abrelshud or she immediately casts a raid wipe. Not collecting the right number of orbs will also incur a raid wipe in the next gimmick. During the battle with the cubes, there are needles and line telegraphs that can reduce the number of orbs you’ve collected (needles drop you to 0 stacks in the room where you need 3 gold orbs, line telegraphs reduce the amount that the white orb player has by 1).
Once the cube is defeated, players must exit with 2-3 seconds to avoid being killed.
04:39 - After all players have exited, Abrelshud begins the next pattern. She’ll summon a huge ball of energy, and you must break an HP shield on her. Afterwards, lines of light will protrude from 8 different positions. You must maneuver into the liens of light to avoid being silenced, as there is a neutralization check that must be cleared. You must also remember where each of these lines of light are, because at the end of this pattern after the neutralization check has been succeeded, five different safe spots emerge, only one of which is correct to stand in. The safe one is the one that if you remember where all of the lines of light emerged from Abrelshud in the previous pattern, it will form that shape. If players successfully neutralized the boss, stand in the correct safe spot, and have the correct amount of orb buffs on 5 players, they’ll survive the raid wipe that follows afterwards.
Lower the boss down from 110 lines down to 90 lines, and players are once again assigned shapes from the 180-line gimmick. You must once again collect the correct number of shapes by the time you reach 50 lines while also avoiding a more dangerous Abrelshud that has access to more deadly spells.
05:34 - At 50 lines, we must once again converge to place symbols on the ground, but instead of line telegraphs, everyone must kite four meteor drops. You have about 1 second after the last meteor drop to stand within proximity of the corresponding shape to place the symbol. Hopefully at this point, everyone has survived and was able to place their symbol to prevent the last 8-player gimmick, as after you successfully guide these meteors into the correct symbol, it’s a burn of the final 50 lines to 0 HP against a torrent of deadly attacks.
Fuck this. Good video, i'm quitting.
"congratulations give yourself a pat in the back"
"that was the door phase"
WAIT WHAT!?
Literally same reaction lmao
"that was the door phase"
Me: O.O
Since you mentioned you regret making this video, i just wanted to chime in and say this and pt2 were basically what got me interested in LA to begin with, so don't feel bad. Thanks for making this video, it's absolutely hilarious and i can't wait to play it :)
This is the best video I have ever seen
Are you sure? There was this dude that used to make #soloqueue videos back in the days. Those were also pretty damn dope.
Indeed
ME: "that ain't too bad"
Saintone: "that was the door"
???
I FKEN BURST out with laughter when this guys said "This was the easy part, the REAL Boss begins now." WTF yoooo This video sold me, Buying founder pack
so if im NA i gotta wait til febuary 11 to play or can i preorder to play
Me too
Dead game in 2 weeks.
@@patrickbateman59 huhhhh
Same. I’m in.
So solving a Rubick's cube with you left nostril (don't touch the upper lip or you wipe) while handstand climbing the Mt. Everest (don't wear pants or you wipe) and foot painting a submarine (don't touch the giant sea monster or you wipe). You wonder why there is no timer to make that at least a tiny bit challenging!
Amazing ideas for a raid and even more amazing coordination by the people running it!
I'm personally to old for that stuff and am going to play the game more casual.
Great video! Thanks a lot for showing what Lost Ark can offer!
As a completely new player, I understood like 5% of this but can't wait to wipe 1000x trying to get this down, lol.
I feel you. I was like 'I see...I don't get it'
Mate, I've been playing MMO's since UO and I understood about 10% Don't sweat it. lol
are you a genius ? im also new player and only understand 1% lol
I am so excited for this fight 😱
this fight wasn't too bad. took about ~50 wipes to get it. however, it requires almost everyone alive to beat, so consistently weak players can have a rough time.
Seeing that the raid boss has 23.1 billion hitpoints is always interesting
It’s weird looking back to this video after playing a ton of lost ark I understood it way better. Progression system must be working 👍
Seeing this comment after now having cleared gate 5-6 last night. What a great raid. I encourage anyone who has the ilvl but is nervous to get in there and give it a shot. There are learning parties! Way easier in normal mode too :P
damn, crazy amount of stuff to learn. i just dont have the time for that dedication anymore, would of loved it when i was younger. crazy stuff
I'm glad i can't even launch the damn game. Apparently i need to reinstall Windows. Fuck that. I'm playing something that works and is not this complicated.
That looks like pure insanity! I can't wait to smash my face on my desk lol. Awesome video Saint!
Yeah... I'm going to have a hard time with that level of remembering stuff, but I'm SUPER hyped to try!
it's hard, but after "learning" you'll do them from memory most often, although abrelshud raid is honestly insane :D
Remembering is easy doing it perfectly is the problem
This looks insanely fun. Great video!
"Insanely fun" LMFAO
@@Oboro911 alot of people like the reward of fighting something challenging.
I know you hate editing but this video is great and I'm glad you made it
This was just the video I was looking regarding end game raids
Dude Saintone the amount of "failure wipes the raid" is crazy! And this is the easy part! 😱
Another fantastic video though man! 👀
Love that you couldn't hold your laughter at several spots in the video. Yeah, it is quite ridiculous. Fun to watch at least.
For the first few minutes I thought this was a troll video, but then I realized nope, these really are mechanics in the video.... I can't fucking wait to play season 2 content in NA 😍😍😍
I can't even imagine myself completing it...
I was already in love with this game. And then I found this video.
How you get into the game? It's fun but I'm just having a hard time understanding so much UI and Geming getting mats etc. World is vastly big as well. I Play Diablo and WoW before
Saint i love your stream, love your yt content. Great Video, tyvm! :)
I read through the comments and saw you replying to someone that youre going to Talk about raids in general in another Video. I also got a idea for another Video.
What about creating a Video that tackles All the different (endgame) content in lost ark? You could Talk about All the content currently avialable. I guess thatd be interest ing. Atleast i am interested a Lot and couldnt find any Video like that so far.
I guess you could say these guys are the Raiders of the Lost Ark!
@saintone- I just saw the video from stoopz when you said you regret this because it came off as making the game too hard. If anything, its the exact opposite, this is giving people a taste of what to expect come SUPER END GAME and honestly, this makes me want to try the boss because of this video and I am sure it is the same for many.
really epic video sir!
SHEESSH FINALLY! I AM NOW EVEN MORE EXCITED
Great Job i Appreciate it
It's funny to watch a new world player saying "Ohhh we have to dogde these laser beams, such mechanics dude"
But those hardcore mmo gamers in New World are at the same time also maxing out chest opening.
New World is mostly PvP game and PvP will always be more interesting on very high level. You beat real players, you outplay them and not outplay scripted NPC boss fight.
Idk why you guys shit on New World, feeling insecure about Lost Ark? That it will die before even released in EU/NA?
@@pr3287 New World is already slowly dying my guy. Amazon marketed an unfinished game everywhere, people flocked in saw how half-assed it is and slowly left. Lost Ark on the other hand is a game that has been out for almost 4 years already, it's finished and polished with no bugs. Not as many players will be on Lost Ark as at the beginning of New World but definitely, more players will stick with Lost Ark in the long run than New World.
@@pr3287 Everyone is having a good time here, except you. Feeling insecure about New World? That it will die in the forseeable future?
Btw calling new world a high level pvp game is kinda cringe with all the bugs and the raw existance of guild wars 2.
@@pr3287 Lmao what? High level PvE will always be more entertaining. New World is also a broken pile of shit with awful PvP balance.
Coming back to say I can finally say I beat this gate. This is the video that got me into lost ark and my goal was a gate 6 clear week one of release and I finally did it
Great work!
This looks insane wtf. I'm pretty sold on this game holy shit.
great video!!
man you & your party got to have all the patience in the world to learn all that sht. first few runs on this mustve been really frustrating with pugs(even with a coord grp it couldve been just as frustrating or fun dying a dozen times xD)
Yo I was skeptical about this game but after seeing this raid alone I’m sold I Love ffxiv raids with how chaotic and fun it gets once you know how to fight the boss the only thing I will need to get used to is the holding right click to move and not using wasd as movement
And grinding for a At least 10 to 20 weeks, or spending too much money.
so how is raid and dungeon meta in this game? like one tank 1-2 healers (which one?) and rest any random dps?
I cant wait to fail so many times until u get it right!!
*Finally killing the boss after hours*
She activates phase 2
That was the door? Where do I get that kind of security system?
I've cleared ultimate raiding on FFXIV and absolutely adored it, so just from this, I can tell that raids on Lost Ark will be very fun and satisfying for me, too.
well this looks... beautiful
And here I am forgetting my skill key binds ever so often after 20 hrs of playing.
is there a resource to learn fights before release? is going in blind more fun?
When it comes to NA/EU release, there are a lot of resources in English already. I think a lot of the early game stuff is great for gradually getting people accustomed to Lost Ark combat, so you don't have to worry that it'll be heavily chaotic like in this video.
But I think it's more fun to go in blind. You learn pretty quickly what's dangerous, though a quite a few bosses even early on have abstract mechanics (granted a lot of them you can figure out if you just read tooltips).
Definitely go in blind
There's a practice mode, NA/EU won't get this content for a long time, and honestly there's tons of more casual contents and lesser insane raids that you can do just fine.
I suggest you look up more videos about the other content.
are the dps windows fair to all classes? looks like slow classes or those with charge-up won't have a lot of time to get their spells through, while bursty pr hypermobile ones have more opportunities to apply their dmg
I'd say that if you can do these fights as an Ignition Sorceress (what I play in the video) you can do them on any class in the game. Ignition Sorceress is the most susceptible class in the game to being interrupted or missing attacks.
대부분의 직업들은 공평한 dps를 가지고있습니다.
언급한 소서리스(sorceress) 는 스킬 적중률이 낮은편이지만 짧은시간동안 가장 많은 데미지를 넣을수있는 직업입니다.
그렇기때문에 파티 평균 레벨이 올라갈수록 딜 지분이 높아집니다.
저는 lostark가 서양에서 얼마나 인기있는지 궁금합니다
Fortnite 정도 인가요?
@@gogi9759 아직 인기가 없습니다. 하지만 BJ들 사이에서 가장 인기 있는 MMORPG 중 하나가 될 것으로 예상된다
The *real* raid boss: trying to survive taking a shot every time he says "wipes the raid."
Friendships are going to die with this game.
Goosebumps every time...😆
Nice Video, liked it very much.
Good explanation too.
But a tiny bit to fast - kinda felt like you had to catch a bus or sth. :)
I will try to speak even faster next time!
@@Saintone Well, then THIS should be your goal: ua-cam.com/video/4X4Fy8YqysY/v-deo.html
This and nothing less :D
I think it shows how the raid will feel for us when we do it with a constant DPS output haha
Yo this is the craziest thing I’ve seen lol
Idk why I don't see this as fun to me. Having to learn 50 different mechanics and if you miss one is a wipe.
i think they made this boss on shrooms
6:14 what's the text on the screen mean?
"that was the door"
Me, Who struggled a lot with Aleric: *good god, that was the easy part?*
This is INSANE!!! Cant recall an rpg with this level of complexity, closest i can think of is perhaps bns. So nice to see an engaging and complex pve coming from BDO. I hope they add large gvgs sieges wich Is the only thing i feel missing; although may be hard to balance and implement w/o being a clusterfuck (with 200-400 players on the same place i mean).
there is gvgs sieges gvevg its just not 200-400 players its 16vs16
that mechanics are ok for wow/ff14 players.
@@uuamenator Exactly, I don't know what these people are talking about. It's like the devs heard 'the more, the better' and really latched onto it. This isn't even complexity, it's just the game equivalent of typing 2000 words for a 500 word paper but not saying anything of substance.
@@uuamenator what is that give us a game with what are u saying ff14 wow?
@@serge1617 Honestly, this puts pretty much every wow encounter to shame, and that's coming from someone who used to raid in a top50 guild during H Ulduar when raids had difficult encounters
the amount of raid wipe mechanics remind of that simpsons bit "thats a paddlin"
Does the number inflation make it better?
very cool and all but who did the art in the top left corner for ur thumbnail :0
This is HILARIOUS because the difficulty of this raid is INSANE XD
See I want raiding to be difficult what I am curious is how tied to the enjoyment of the game is it and how hard to get into it is it.
mother of god; this is going to be rough and epic!
I guess I'll take a notebook with me in raid. There is no way I'll remember this shit until dozen runs done .
Can someone confirm or deny the requiring of a support class(bard/holyknight/gunlancer) or can all the content be done without? Great video man, making me so pumped for this kind of content.
High-end content will always be easier to do with a support, and every party is always stronger with 1 support than a 4th damage dealer!
@@Saintone oh! thanks for the reply! I see, but I have friends who want to do it without supports like bard/holyknight/gunlancer, all I'm wondering is if you can. Great content man.
@@chevaliusrex I think it's possible! You'll just have a hard time in really late game stuff.
@@Saintone hint hint good content hint hint.
;P
A bard is a mayhem berserkers best friend if you play a zerker.
1 bard heal will heal me for 50% of my hp xD
while anyone else without mayhem just get a small heal.
i've seen you on tree of savior, then maplestory 2, and now here you are again! lol have you cleared this raid?
33.38 what kind of ramiel is that?
Thank you for making this video. Like seriously and unironically. This has vindicated my decision that lost ark isn't the game for me. 👍 Glad I found this early instead of spending time and money and realizing months down the line that I would have to deal with BS like this.
With raid out, it is not as difficult as it seems, but since it is narrated at a fast pace, it sure seems like it. Is just overwhelmed when all explain at once. I can imagine you explaining an ULTIMATE like TEA/DSR would look insane but all encounter can be overcome with practice.
1 hour and 223 mechanics in the real fight begins
one of the few content creators that I have to slow down to .75 speed. Take it easy man...
This video is so much fun. NA/EU will rage. :D
Q: How difficult is raiding in LOST ARK?
A: Yes!
Love it... :)
holy shit this is sick
welp... was very overwhelmed when I first saw this a year ago... today clearing G5 hard in just a cpl of pulls on ilvl... game really did get a lot easier with time ^^... and the countless normal clears helped aswell I guess
So what your sayingnis I dont stand a chance haha! Great video, im going to be a disaster lol
"That was the easy part LOL!" Yeah, this all seems very easy.=
dear god
I'm sold.
Wait is the boss available in NA?
amazing game
How difficult is raiding in Lost Ark?
Lost Ark : Yes
Creative
it seriously looks like isometric XIV raiding on steroids, love it.
here's hoping the balance between classes is just as tight as XIV's.
@@RisqueBisquetz it is. The balancing is really good. Pick a class you enjoy and youre set. Also Balance Patches with dev notes get released frequently
one has to wonder how slow classes do all that? gunlancer for example
gunlancer having problems in content? you just stand there and chuckle at everyone running around avoiding stuff, while doing huge dmg and "face-tanking" everything except the wipe mechanics. gunlancers have no problem in this content or any actually, they're one of the "best" classes to play in this game and only bad if you dont like their playstyle.
Great video, but please directly link the Inven text in the description next time - the least you can do for the guide creator who worked very hard is to also provide a link to the source work he created.
I will edit the description and provide the link. You are right.
The whole vid I am like: "Ummm yeah... I got that yeah..."
Bruh it just kept getting more harder as it went on, I thought the HP was insane but then you kept going lol
door phase before the real fight
Insane
Take a shot everytime you hear "wipes the raid"
just curious, who coined the "gimmick" term? was the game itself or just Korean translation? never heard of gimmick being used as term for mechanics and on wow/ffxiv
Sorry, the word gimmick is often used in Korean MMORPGs as a substitute for mechanic or pattern.
@@Saintone makes sense! gotta get used to the new terminology
@@Saintone It's called as 'intermission' in WoW. (Mini phases between real phases)
Yeah, I'll just be collecting some more Mokoko Seeds. Holy shit.
Bro each gimmick makes my brain go mushy and you're telling me we have to remember ALL of these for the raid? I'm going to become die...
Don't think I'm cut out for this... I struggled on olm in osrs
Well. the new content in osrs is kinda bullshit tho.
kinda wish it stayed 2007 runescape.
This video gave me carpel tunnel
5:10 they r spinning while falling down lol
Omfg the wipes are going to be unreal. Roflmao
What did i just see??! I think im getting old....
Heres a timetime of this video:
0:01 How hard its to raid in lost ark?
0:02 Really fucking hard
This is literally the 1% of playerbase content.
Unsure if this will be doable on 200 ping :/
Not gonna lie, im scared but im ready
im 30 seconds in a nd lost already.. how the eff am I suppose to do these raids
There's a pratice mode, also NA/EU won't get this content for a long time, and honestly there's tons of more casual contents and lesser insane raids that you can do just fine.
I suggest you look up more videos about the other content.
you're supposed to gradually progress into this.... you're supposed to gear up full set of valtan/biakiss/kukou-saiton(previous endgame raids) sets and upgrade them - meaning weeks and months of gearing up and learning new mechanics that later get included in these newer raids with additional new or changed gimmicks. You're watching people who literally played the game for years(dont need to spend years to gear up to this level tho, lost ark is very kind to new players who come in late in gearing process) that know their class - dont even need to think what skill to use to get X result, dont need to think twice if they can run or use space for future save situation(most of the time), their positioning in better damage spots etc. and how the game works in-out because they spent thousand of hours enjoying it doing the hardest content available for small extra loot increase, so they could gear up their new sets/items in 1 month instead of 2 if you ran normal mode, which is still difficult and is a huge challange for everyone untill you get used to it and it becomes just a fun challange mode.
First clear for this raid took ~50 hours of going blind and trying>dying>trying on repeat. now majority of groups clear this whole raid in ~3-4 hours (all 6 raid bosses) so they just dedicate a day or two for 1-4 and then 5-6 phases while doing other stuff inbetween.
@@nzrock1 yeah im aware. :) I did not know about practice mode. Im sure ill attempt it with some people when its available but its a lot to remember haha
Meanwhile we solo Path of Exile end game bosses in 3 seconds lol
One of the reasons i left POE
this is completely different type of game...
Can someone give me a “raid wipe” counter? How many times and ways can this occur in a 6.5 minute video?
Ty for the English content 10/10
I don't get how you know these things, do you learn them losing and wiping?
1. Get to a new mechanic.
2. See it for the first time, die to it.
3. Just try things to resolve it. Die many times at this step.
4. After you have a janky solution, return to step 1.
5. Later on, new and better solutions appear, usually on public forums or stuff, and they become the wide-accepted optimal strategy.
A lot of these mechanics seem extremely unusual, like you'd never know how to complete them without a guide. But usually they provide some very vague contextual clues, such as in buff tooltips or a message on the screen, on how to solve them.
@@Saintone ty for answering me :) hope to not be a dummy dum when the time comes xd
you should see the 17hour raid clear of destiny 2's last wish.
this is an amazing video aaahhhh