How Netflix Blew the Real Story of Varian Fry

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  • Опубліковано 20 жов 2024

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  • @mimby1148
    @mimby1148 Рік тому +22

    Varian Fry was a brilliant and daring man who deserved much more respect and praise for what he accomplished. He was my Latin teacher in high school. I stumbled upon his book in the library and was amazed that no one had told us of his daring work. I am still in awe of him to this day.

    • @SagesseNoir
      @SagesseNoir Рік тому +3

      Wow! You knew Varian personally

    • @mimby1148
      @mimby1148 Рік тому +2

      @@SagesseNoir Yes, I did and I admire him so much.

    • @SagesseNoir
      @SagesseNoir Рік тому

      @@mimby1148 I just got a copy of his book SURRENDER ON DEMAND

  • @erinmac4750
    @erinmac4750 Рік тому +12

    Thanks for giving this enlightening review. I agree with the foundation's head, there's so much Netflix had to work with, yet they had to add a bunch of fake drama to Varian's story.
    I'm ok with historical fiction, but if you're doing someone's story stay true to it.

  • @KarinHelmst-jz6yf
    @KarinHelmst-jz6yf Рік тому +8

    Thanks Sabine, for setting the tone and story straight on a man like Varian Fry. I had a lump in my throat at the final passage from his writings. Good to have it underscored that he saved 2000 people against such official resistance, and it sounds like the beginning of a long reckoning. I hadn't really registered the series yet, but will give it a look. Thanks for this compelling piece! 🙏

    • @sabinekieselbach5043
      @sabinekieselbach5043 Рік тому

      Thank you, Karin! ❤

    • @marthae9338
      @marthae9338 8 місяців тому

      Don't bother with the series, it isn't worth it. Much better telling of the story in "Varian's War" , a film from 2001 that I saw years ago and finally found again on YT. Possibily not as glitzy or "fun" as described in this series but much better, and reflected the very real danger Fry courted.

  • @helenannleeshung9028
    @helenannleeshung9028 Рік тому +23

    I really enjoyed the Netflix series Transatlantic but I understand how the situation was romanticized to make the show entertaining. I don't think Mr. Fry's heroism was undermined. I think in the series it was quite clear that what he accomplished was gargantuan in the face of opposition that he faced.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  Рік тому +2

      Thanks, Helen, for sharing your thoughts here with us. All the best.

    • @lesliea.6440
      @lesliea.6440 Рік тому +4

      I also enjoyed the series but anything lacked “historical” on Netflix these days I approach with caution and always investigate after watching.

    • @marthae9338
      @marthae9338 8 місяців тому

      All they had to do was to tell the real story which would have made it worth it. Seeking to "romanticize to make it entertaining" cheapened it, made it seem like a lark. So disppointing.

  • @reginalord9345
    @reginalord9345 9 місяців тому +3

    The show was inspired by Julie Orringer's novel, The Flight Portfolio which is a fictionalized account of the life of Varian Fry

  • @SagesseNoir
    @SagesseNoir Рік тому +3

    Hey, I just got a hold of Varian Fry's book SURRENDER ON DEMAND from our university library.

  • @briannacooper2628
    @briannacooper2628 Рік тому +5

    I adored Transatlantic and was introducing to Varian Fry’s work. I don’t think his portrayal in the fictionalized story undermined his heroism and dedication at all. The Netflix series brought me to his work and true story for that I am grateful. He did great work and I really value the stories of queer people being told.

    • @marthae9338
      @marthae9338 8 місяців тому

      But that wasn't the purpose of what Fry did! To turn it into that takes away from the real heroism of what he did, not who he was. Makes saving those 2,000 people - more, if you consider descendants-- a "distraction", when they were why he was there.

  • @triciac.5078
    @triciac.5078 Рік тому +3

    Hadn’t heard of this show, now it’s on my watch list. Thanks DW. And I appreciate you showing the real story.

  • @SletnamMusic
    @SletnamMusic 7 місяців тому +3

    The american movie 'VARIAN'S WAR' with William Hurt as Varian Fry is more realistic than this series of Netflix ! Btw : Fry was NOT gay !!!

  • @SagesseNoir
    @SagesseNoir Рік тому +6

    By the way, are you guys familiar with the movie "Varian's War"? Is it closer to depicting what actually happened than is "Transatlantic"? It appeared in the cable SHOWTIME back in 2001

  • @dottieheerema6956
    @dottieheerema6956 6 місяців тому +1

    Varian was brilliant and caring...he came to my brothers funeral (Varian is my cousin) and I remember thinking he was so much like my Dad.

    • @SagesseNoir
      @SagesseNoir 5 місяців тому +1

      Wow! You're related to Varian.

  • @Crypto_Circus
    @Crypto_Circus Рік тому +5

    What a great man, only if more people could be like him.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Dao, so true.

    • @helenamcginty4920
      @helenamcginty4920 Рік тому +4

      There seem to have been quite a lot of people who quietly did what they could. I have read about quite a few over the years. Often surprising like a group of Catholic nuns who managed to hide children.

  • @fanroche8573
    @fanroche8573 Рік тому +3

    to be fair it is based on a book and at least raises the profile of Varian fry and others and also the fact there was a major resistance movement in marseille which you would think would lead to people looking in to it and researching the facts, it is not a documentary or meant to be !!

    • @marthae9338
      @marthae9338 8 місяців тому

      No, but it doesn't really give much of an idea of the story, either. Didn't need the distractions and could have told a really exciting story--the book ... I didn't get far into it. I did know more than a little about the work of the ERC and Varian Fry to begin with so perhaps I am biased but I thought this series did a poor job.

  • @nitikakanwar9601
    @nitikakanwar9601 8 місяців тому +1

    I am someone who didn’t even know who Varian Fry was . I just saw Transatlantic straightaway . Not only did I love the portrayal of Varian Fry ( as a rescuer : not going into his love angle with the fictional Thomas ) , I was pretty moved by a lot of scenes in the series . The show has its flaws like any other , but in no way does it undermine the heroism of Varian . I felt such a sense of relief when he finally crossed the Barrier with the Chagalls . If nothing else , Transatlantic has made uninformed people like me go and hunt for information on this under-celebrated hero and the one who aided him , like Mary Jane .

  • @ygorgomes5202
    @ygorgomes5202 10 місяців тому +2

    will take a look on this series. I knew mr Fry history by the movie "Varian's war" of 2001 with William Hurt!

  • @ambermckay
    @ambermckay Рік тому +1

    Before this limited series I didn't know the story of Varian Fry and the rescue committee now I know, I loved it and if I'm honest I also followed Transatlantic to see the Gotham Riddler again:Cory Michael Smith😊💚 a great actor who I've been a fan of since I saw him on Breakfast and Tiffany

    • @marthae9338
      @marthae9338 8 місяців тому

      There are better, and truer ways of learning about what Varian Fry and his ERC colleagues achieved. This isn't one of them.

  • @marthae9338
    @marthae9338 8 місяців тому +3

    Transatlantic was awful. The book it was based on was a disappointment, focusing more on Fry's sex life than the real story. Twenty plus years ago there was another film, "Varian's War", with William Hurt--only two hours but a far better telling of the story as well. so when the publicists of this say the story is "only now being filmed" that is not true. Give "Transatlantic a miss. Watch "Varian's War. Read "Villa Air Bel by Rosemary Sullivan for the real story. Brave people.

    • @jasonayres
      @jasonayres 2 місяці тому

      Personally, I thought "Varian's War" was a bit like a tele novella, a made for television movie, but it is a cinematic giant, compared with this "only now being filmed" Transatlantic.
      Thank you for sharing.

  • @Andy_Babb
    @Andy_Babb Рік тому +1

    Proof that you don’t need to use a gun to be a hero

  • @SagesseNoir
    @SagesseNoir Рік тому +2

    I wish Varian Fry had saved Walter Benjamin, a superb German Jewish philosopher and man of letters who committed suicide to escape the Nazis. But he did save the philosopher Hannah Arendt, some of whose works I have read.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  Рік тому

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us and our community.

    • @sbnogg
      @sbnogg Рік тому +1

      Yes he certainly deserved a lot of credit. It's also sad that Fry and others, were unable to save another great German Jewish logician and philosopher, Kurt Grelling and his wife Greta in time. Sadly, they were sent to Auschwitz and immediately murdered.

    • @marthae9338
      @marthae9338 8 місяців тому

      Mr. Benjamin was stopped at the Spanish border; guards had been instructed would not allow a stateless person" to pass. There would have been little chance at that point for Fry to save him. Varian Fry did save at least 2,000 people; among them Marc Chagall, Franz Werfel, Heinrich Mann, Alma Mahler (Werfel, she was then).

  • @SagesseNoir
    @SagesseNoir 5 місяців тому +1

    Has anyone here seen the video VARIAN'S WAR? If so, do you think it a better account of Varian and his mission?

  • @SagesseNoir
    @SagesseNoir Рік тому

    I admit that only recently have I even heard of Varian Fry. However, I never saw the Netflix series. I first saw the Showtime movie called "Varian's War" which aired maybe 15--20 years ago. Thanks for this video which tries to set the record straight. Presently, I am now not sure I want to see "Transatlantic". I want to know more about Varian Fry and the work of the Emergency Rescue Committee

    • @wasauchimmer723
      @wasauchimmer723 Рік тому +1

      Read his book „surrender on demand“ ist really good

    • @SagesseNoir
      @SagesseNoir Рік тому

      @@wasauchimmer723 OK

  • @quaykade
    @quaykade 2 місяці тому

    If Marc Chagall appears in "Transatlantic" does he speak English, he never did. The French policeman in the trailer spoke perfect accented English, would he have done. A film made by Americans for an American/English audience.

  • @SagesseNoir
    @SagesseNoir 5 місяців тому

    I wish Walter Benjamin had been one of those who Varian Fry helped to escape. He was a great writer

  • @helenamcginty4920
    @helenamcginty4920 Рік тому

    From various comments Ive read about various netflix productions Im rather glad I a) rarely watch tv and b) dont subscribe to Netflix or indeed any non terrestrial channels.
    I stopped watching most tv years ago in the hey day of big brother and offshoots. There is plenty of good stuff on here.👍

    • @marthae9338
      @marthae9338 8 місяців тому

      You won't miss anything if you skip this. If you want to watch a film that tells more of what Varian Fry did, watch "Varian's War" from 2001--now you can find it on YT.

  • @dasbomfim
    @dasbomfim 11 місяців тому

    I really wanted to share this. But I avoid sharing things that refer to the US as “America”. It feels like complying with propaganda, and perpetuating the country’s culture of isolationism and cultural appropriation.