The Ultimate Ford 3.5L Ecoboost Upgrade!
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2020
- In this video we talk about the New High Volume Oil pump from Melling made for the Ford 3.5L Engines.
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Does Melling tell you when will the High Pressure pump for the 2nd generation be available?
All 3.5 and 3.7 engines uses them.
You were number one in my books 8 years ago and that' still applies today. Hope you're well.
"Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock."
David Frost,
I wonder if their sales jumped after this video came out?
Brian should get a contract with Ford to train their techs! His knowledge is unprecedented!
I believe he was a Ford Master tech.
My guess would be they didn’t like him telling us about Fords short comings.....
And you may or may not have noticed he drives a Ram not an F150 !!
@Kurt B,
In my experience, training people to do something is often less satisfying than doing that same work myself. The exception is when the students are bright and eager, but they are often in the minority. They are also more likely to be like Brian -- they figure things out for themselves without needing someone else to train them. What is needed is to clone him.
@@robm3357,
The Ford engineering group should hire him to teach them how to design an F-150 that would win him back. I'm certain that reliability and maintainability would get high priorities. Two areas that Ford does not seem to appreciate as much as I believe they should.
Ford would say no. Would put all their service depts out of business.
@@Anon1mous,
Which is worse, having to reduce the size of service departments, or the whole dealerships shutting down because only totally clueless people buy their vehicles -- and eventually you run out of them? Toyota seems to be doing OK following the teachings of J. Edwards Deming.
It seems that Ford management (and others) have forgotten the lessons of the 1970s and 80s and are repeating their mistakes from that era. (Read Detroit Free Press reporting on internal memos about the Fiesta and Focus DCT fiasco for a flashback to the corporate culture that thought it was OK to have a even few people burned to death in their Pintos since the numbers worked out OK for the company.)
I've been a mechanic for 45 years this guy is very knowledgeable and a credit to this industry! What a pleasure to watch. Keep the videos coming!!
Thank you again. Just another public announcement for the best Ford technician ever! Love Fordtechmakuloco Channel!
No telling how much money Brian has saved involved Ford owners willing to get their hands dirty. I have followed and performed his 5.4 3 valve tutorials for almost 10 years and my truck purrs like a kitten at 150,000 miles. Fords truck reputation in part thanks to Brian, who help has helped owners keep their fussy engine trucks out of the salvage yard.
2008 E350 cube van had 385 km when I traded it in and it ran like a top!! It was a great motor if you took care of it.
absolutely, started watching him when i done my cam phasers and timing chain on my 2006 f150 5.4. very good instructor and teacher.
He was/is a ford tech
Why do you keep buying fords if you have to work on them so much?
luke saylor
Ha ha ha yeah what’s the brand you buy that’s Free of repairs?? Ha ha ha lmao!!
What a sweet smart comment!!
Pure genus!!
Brian I just want to thank you for this channel and all you do to help Ford owners get it right the first time. Your videos are the best I’ve seen as far as detail and accuracy. It’s nice to see people that still take pride in what they do and try to pass that on. Great job!
This channel is the benchmark for Ford vehicle info in the public domain so thanks for taking the time to make these videos!
I dont know exactly where to show my application for all you do for us guys who watch your videos, so here it is. I can't say thanks enough for all the tips and tricks you take the time to show us all. I went to do a phaser job on my 5.4 triton, but it was to late. Damage was done. So I replaced the engine watching your videos and doing the upgrades I would have been unaware of originally. Now I have a reliable great vehicle for commuting and hauling. Thank you again!!
Thank you for your work. My 5.7 3 valve you rebuilt for me is running smooth and I followed your video on antifreeze change and it worked smooth. Ready for winter
Thank you for not burying the lead, you got right into it!
Melling makes great pumps. I've used them in the past and had great success. Thanks Brian.
Thanks brother.. your videos have been paramount to my Ford repairs.. just wanted to say Thank You 🙏 and I appreciate the pump upgrade reveal..
My dad has 2013 F150, 3.5 with 202K miles, has no issues with the truck, serviced every 5k miles with mobil 1, he just purchased this pump, i have seen the pump, it looks like it's very well manufactured, Thanks for the info, man loves his ride
Thanks Brian! I've been lucky so far with my 2013 Ford F-150 3.5L Ecoboost but now I know what to do when my timing chain needs to be replaced.
Great info, wish I found this video sooner. I have a 2015 F-150 with 301,000kms, replaced the timing chain and components at 255,000kms. Will definitely install the high volume pump real soon!
Great info. Have a gen2- 2.3L Ecoboost in my new Ranger. Runs great. Only gets SN+ Penn Ultra Platinum every 4-5kmis depending on how truck used during that OCI.
Thanks for the heads up, water pump started to weep and figured while i'm in there...upgrade time. Went with the high performance version 10390HV
i wish i would have seen this a month ago just did a 2014 eco boost f150 timing set for a friend . he bought everything on the links you provided. run fantastic now .
Haha; I just saw they are right down the road from me so I can just go and pick one up directly. Another great video Brian. We’d all love to see the install video for that one.
As always... Thank you for what you do. Much appreciated all the information you provide to us. Happy turkey day and holidays!!!
The upgraded melling high volume pump for my 5.4l triton was the best thing I ever did for my ‘04 f150, runs like a tiger 🐯 now! thanks to this UA-cam channel, I have full confidence in my truck and I can’t wait to hit 500k on this beast! 💪
Do you have a source or part # for that, I have one that may need that, even thought this is just masking the real problem. LOL These guys in here think oil pumps are faulty..LOL, no they work fine as long as you don't have excessive wear from being stupid.
Get a toyota if you want high miles!
@@koreymayo8884 thanks scotty Kilmer
@@RAAUUULLLL4268 lol except scotty kilmer actually likes ford, but not me.
@@koreymayo8884 you need a 3-digit-iq to like Ford
This will absolutely go in my truck the next time I take the front cover off, which will probably be around 2022 (unless something else breaks...). Brian, I used your FTM video to do my timing chain last year and completed the job in January of 2020. It's been running like a top since. Thanks man. Next stop, new turbochargers.
Did you go back in yet?
Love this Channel, love my Ford thanks to Brian... greetings from Honduras Central America
I replaced my SVT Focus oil pump with a Melling M317 (installed with a gates blue belt and stock tensioners\water pump) like a decade ago and didn't realize how many damn products they make, absolutely insane.
Thanks for the update!!
Thanks for the info
You are the best for letting us know what to watch for.
Pls keep it coming...
More reason to install an oil catch can with the blowby contaminating the oil. Won't stop contamination completely, but anything to help is good.
Yup, that's the first I bought when I got my '19 3.5 F150
JLT 3.0 from American Trucks. 😎👍
Just ordered today. 2016 F150 3.5L Ecoboost with 122k, so should have a fair share of oil already in there! :(
@@dalewatkins9889
True, but even so, better than nothing.
Does anyone know if a cleaner like Seafoam would work on an Ecoboost?
@@dalewatkins9889 keep spraying CRC turbo& valve cleaner through the break hose port... Directly in the intake.
It will cleans + Oil catch can a good one from UPR..
Thanks for posting this video really appreciate your time and money doing it budd.. keep up the great work and tips👍
thank you for that update. Very very good information. I was wondering why all those problems keep it up you’re doing an awesome job.
Love watching your videos on the 3.5 eb, I have a 16 expedition, the only upgrade is high flow cats. My eb has 186k miles original everything (except cats) and it has a tune pushing 20 to 21 boost. I've always used Rotella t6 5w-40, changed every 4k miles. I use the oil in every turbo vehicle I get my hands on and I love it! I mean come on 186k miles with original turbos and timing! And I don't baby it either I'm very hard on it. This bad boy has seen 130+ mph more times then I can count! Oh almost forgot, I got a catch can at 159k to help fight the intake buildup.
Man, you’re freaking good
Thank you for all your expertise! Super helpful!
You posted this right as my 3.5 gave out in my sho now going with a sleeved block, h beam rods and Manley pistons now adding that oil pump🙌🏽
Do you still own the rebuilt engine? If so… any recommendations on the rebuild itself? If your rebuild was successful and no issues… could you list the aftermarket parts you went with? I’m about to start the rebuild on my 2012 3.5 and idk which way to go.
I wish I lived near this dude. I have a 2014 SHO that will need work soon.
Hi everyone I had put this oil pump on my 12 ecoboost with bigger turbos and ported heads and tuned, and installed it with the 85 pound spring. It has now been in for 9 months of HARD use and it works great! Well worth the money
How is this change the fuel economy?
Thanks for all the vids!
Good video and I appreciate the knowledge in your videos
Great Info! We're looking forward to selling tons of this M390HV.
Lol
Enjoy your video's you clearly know your Fords, and explain faults and finding making them easy to follow. Do you have a video on 3.0 engine bucking,, missing under load?
As always love your vids Brian!!!, my new 3.5 HO gen2 sits at 90 cold on high pressure, and 60 hot on low pressure at idle.....with 70,000 miles, had pure synthetic in it since 75 miles on odometer, no chain rattle, no metal in filter, only issue i had was a cracked drivers valve cover , good oil and filters are key to this motor's longevity.....
Good to hear. What oil and filter would you recommend?
@@pnwgracethroughfaith7915 I personally have used in this motor since day 1(75 miles), Amsoil 0w30 Signature and an EaO17 filter, however my current setup is with Amsoil's dual remote full flow / bypass filter kit, total oil is now very close to 9 quarts and uses an EaO26 main, and an EaBP90 bypass filter. Super easy to do on these Fords and much easier oil changes. I checked pressures as I changed up the oiling system a bit with filter relocation.....less than 5 psi drop overall. But you can't go wrong with a Motorcraft FL820s and full synthetic 5w30.....also decent oil.
@@MrHossola Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.
@@pnwgracethroughfaith7915 No problemo
THANK YOU ! BE SAFE ! HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT HAPPY THANKSGIVING & MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎅 🎄 TOO ! GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS ON YOUR JOURNEYS ! ENJOYED !
Great video once again, thanks! Would you happen to have a video of the fuel injector o ring replacement on a 3.5 ecoboost? I had a hell of a time removing the fuel rails. Im waiting on parts and I know it's going to be a nightmare going back to gether. The rails and harnesses are so packed in there.
Thanks for the video Brain.
Brian is the Ford GOAT(ee)!!
Thanks dude, appreciate what you share.
Thanks for the information keep up the good work
Love this channel thanks Brian peace ☮️
just got my pump today while I'm in the middle of the timing chain replacement! It is a merry Christmas indeed! I hope my wife isn't jealous of how much more I spent of my truck than on her XD
MrBuildEverything can you help me a little? 2015 F150 3.5, I DON'T have timing chain noise but do have the leak, a few drops on floor each day. How did you decide it was time to replace chains? Noise? Leak? Performance? I have 105 ,000 miles. These videos are great and I'll likely do all the work. I'm just trying to decide if I really have a mechanical issue or just an annoying leak at this point...thanks and Merry Christmas!
@@donbarkman9802 leaking oil? Try and see if you can trace where it's coming from. I had a cold start rattle for about a year, I knew eventually the chain would go. One day I got check engine light P0016 code, cam shaft position sensor, no other symptons. I continued driving, then 3 weeks later one morning it coughed up black smoke and wouldn't idle, stuttered at low rmps and sometimes died. At that time I knew it must have jumped a tooth so I parked it and started ordering parts. You definitely want to do the job before catastrophic failure. I am afraid I have bent valves from running it with the timing off even though I only went around the block. I found a piece of the main tensioner in the oil pan, that is what failed.
@@nicksvaik best I can tell is where the front pan joins the block. It's way high on the motor, top of timing chain cover. Guessing those joints where you need to ensure you add an extra dab of sealant. Kind of pisses me off to be honest. I'm sure ford stands behind none of this even though a known issue?
Thanks for the good information brian
Thank you! Always informative and on top of FoMoCo upgrades and tips/advice! Didn't know about the SP rating... thank you!
Had the timing chain, VTC, oil pump replaced on my 2010 SHO last year due to excessive startup rattle. Chain and guides were all out of spec at 108k miles. All gaskets were seeping oil. Ford covered all repairs under extended 120k warranty. First 60k miles used Motorcraft syn blend, been using Amsoil since. Was very clean, no oil sludge or buildup.
so your issue came after switching to scamsoil
@@stewpidaso26 The timing chain rattle started at 45k, at that time Ford wouldn't fix. I suppose switching allowed me the next 60k miles with no further wear and CEL.
Oil is still cheaper than parts & labor. Until they aren't, I'll use Amsoil also. Haven't been inside any engine while using it.
@@markc5671 you wouldnt have went another 60k if that was the issue. not even scamsoil claims that switching to their oil will limp you along with worn or broken parts
@@randallmunson9909 you havnt driven far enough or used a truck like it should be. that is probably why. unless youre changing you oil at 15k youre no saving yourself any money on oil changes to being with, which is one reason people switch. your better off using a normal oil and changing it when your supposed to.
I bought a 09 Flex with a standard 3.5L non boost. Since I bought this truck used in 2012 , I've been running Royal Purple oil in it. I pulled the Throttle body off and clean it every 2 years or so. I've had zero issues with this engine. When I look down into the valve covers the upper drivetrain is super clean. Any thoughts on this oil? I know what people say about it not being worth it, however it's given me no reason not to use it.
In my 72 Mustang I have a 429cid big block and only use 20/50 Quaker state oil to keep the oil pressure up. I definitely believe in using the right oil for the right purpose.
I use to work for Ford dealership many years ago. You videos are absolutely great, if I have a reason to replace the oil pump I know what to get now !
Thank you, Brian.
Thank You, Sir Good Tech INFO Well Done !
Man wish I saw this 2 months ago!! My 2014 F150 just hit 160k miles and I had the chain, phasers and water pump replaced. Wish I had done the oil pump as well! Interesting note - my chain with 160k miles was identical in length to the new one I put in. I guess that means I'm using good oil? My phasers were having issues though and started that cold start rattle noise. I put the new upgraded ones in.
Can you do a video about "lubricating the chassis"
With what kind of grease and how much to use, where/ when?
Also what are your thoughts on at 205 being sprayed onto bushings to extend the life.
Thx for the video and info!!
Good stuff!! Thanks!!
This is great i need a pallet of them. I do alot of 5.4 & 3.5 timing jobs.
I feel like it’s safe to own a ford knowing this guy
I wish this would have come out 6 months ago when I did a full timing job on my 2011 F150 3.5.
How many miles it got?
How many miles before the timing chain swap?
@@JL-dp2pt My truck made it 148k before it needed them. Im at 160k now and it runa the same as it did brand new.
I did it myself following the videos and it cost me close to 2k. But I did secondary chains and tensioners as well as the main chain and tensioner. Coolant valley o-rings, spark plugs, coil boots and everything else he lists other than the water pump. Make sure if you are going to do this job you should buy cam shift holders and make sure you use the recommended Motorcraft rtv.
I feel your pain... I just saw this two days after swapping in a Mishimoto intercooler and some AFE pipes... it was kinda halfway there again... :( These trucks like aftermarket goodies and custom tunes... I just like the idea of a high volume pump feeding those shiny new phasers... :)
THANKS FOR THE INFO
Brian is a Ford genius. He can turn a Ford into an ultra-reliable Toyota.
Ford will NEVER match the reliability of a Toyota!!
Or a f**kin Chevy with an LS.
@@TheOzthewiz Agreed.
I’m not a ford owner but if I were ever to buy a ford pickup I’d take advice from this guy before anyone else.
Last year of 2020 I bought a 2016 Ford Transit van with a EcoBoost engine 310 hp twin turbo. I'm using mid grade gasoline.
Good information
Great video and presentation from you, just wish ford tech engineers would listen to some of these guys on these video’s and learn from their mistakes and yes they are supposed to be the experts ))) 😃🇬🇧
I recently rebuilt my mustang 3.7. I used this oil pump. I used the higher psi spring as I rev the engine to 7800. Works great.
Hey bro is the stock spring comparable to the 85% spring that's mentioned in the video? I have a 3.7 stang as well and guess what...clack clack clack, time for new timing components and phasers and what not and looking to change to this melling high volume pump...did you use the exact pump mentioned in this video or the race one which has a stiffer spring as claimed on rock auto?
I installed several of these Melling M390HV the 85lb/100lb spring. Stock pump my 12 mustang was in the middle of gauge . 85lb spring has gauge reading at 5/8 , 100psi spring will show gauge closer to 3/4. I personally use the 100lb spring but I have Manley rods and pistons, built motor that revs to 7800. @@monikhushalpuri
I liked & saved this video !
This dude is the best
Exciting news. Time will tell.
Nice! I’m about to do VCT units on a 2017 3.5EB. Doing chains and tensioners while I’m in there. I tried watching your 3.5 series but yes, my engine is “redesigned”. Wish me luck.
@Dennis Burger seems to be true. Maybe my new 2 chains aren’t stretching but the VCTs are still going bad!!!
@Dennis Burger Those engines were not engineered to delete VCT.
What are your general thoughts on the second generation of these Eco Boost engines?
Definitely needed
136k on my Ford Explorer sport... already had to break the engine apart to change out the cam phasers... then stiffed by the Ford dealer to reopen the engine, cause the light went off again due to not changing the timing chains the first time... not happy!
Great info
Great Info, Hey Bri, I'm sending an e-mail to BS&G with some questions about a truck I just bought. Thanks for the channel!!!!!!, Rickma
Nice 👌 upgrade
nice i have a 2007 lincoln mkx with 96,000 km. if the WP ever leaks, ill surely get that pump one day.
Hi Brian, I have a 2014 3.7. Been using full synthetic since i got the car at 27k. Changes ever 3-4k. Since the 3.7 Duratec is the Eco boost for the F150 I would assume the SP is find. Been using full Quaker state and it does have the SP.
Would you recommend better?
Great info. Keep them coming
I intend to have my water pump, phasers, chain, guides and oil pump changed just for the sake of preventative maintenance on my 2010 Lincoln MKS 3.5L Eco. Always happy to hear about better parts that can be placed in place of existing parts to assist with longevity of my car. I'll keep this in mind for when the day comes. Be nice if there existed a better water pump as well that could last 200k+ miles. I'd feel like I could own the car forever it did.
Need to get one for my f150 .
I remember at time about 18 years ago where all "Ski"worked on was Hummers.
Yup those were the days!
Excellent thank you
Finally! So with this upgrade and the oil catch can, would I be better off getting a King Ranch with a Triton or a King Ranch with the 3.5?
Hey can you do a video breakdown on the new FSA 21B10 for the 3.5L ecoboost? Curious on what the actual changes are. Going to have it performed next week, I don't currently have any startup noise on my motor with 15k.
I’ve been running pennzoil ultra platinum in my 3.5 ECOBOOST since I got the vehicle with 39,000 on it. I hope it’s SP
SP designation just voted on in May of 2020, was SN or SN plus until then.
Putting this up for anyone that may be doing this job and installing this pump .
This pump barely comes out when doing the timing job . The issue is that the oil pump pickup tube hits the bottom of the pan before its clear of the register in the pump and does not give you the required room to wiggle the pump out easily . Anyone thats replaced any of these type pumps knows that getting it lined up to get on the crank can be tricky so when you ad the clearance issues its pretty much impossible to get this back on as is without using some force. On the 5.4 you can simply rotate the pump clockwise to clear the tube and slide it right out. On this engine however there is a raised area inside the cover that prevents this. I take a die grinder with an aluminum bit and grind just a touch off the drivers side of the pump housing near the bolt hole and that allows the pump to rotate enough to clear the pickup tube and slide on easy without using force. I know how it sounds but there is PLENTY of meat there and it doesnt negatively affect the pumps function at all.
If you are in contact with melling Brian you need to get them to change the casting just slightly to remedy this issue.
Hey Brian, any plans to make a video for installation of the HF pump? Would love to see one on an F150 EB.
@@pantherplatform High Flow.
HV... High Volume...
Can you post a video showing how to remove and replace it? Thank you
Thank you sir.
Damn, never saw you with the beard 😳 used to seeing you cleaned shaved lol 😂 great video as usual too.👍🏻
Do you have any videos on how to replace a timing chain on a 2004 Ford expeditio 4.6 engine
So my 14 supercrew limited has only had Amsoil signature series and it has 300000 kilometers of oilfield use meaning lots of idle time and hard work. Internally everything is still stock and no phaser or codes for anything related to timing or chain issues. I just had bd manifolds, garret stage 1 turbos and turbo adapters, new cats and all piping from magnaflow. I also have the Amsoil remote bypass oil filter kit and the truck still pulls hard. Just did a 600km round trip in the mountains of British Columbia and truck says I did 14.5al/100kms.
172000 miles on 09 Lincoln 2wd Mks. Thx for oil pump advice!!! Will purchase soon. What do you suggest on making my steering more precise? Factory steering rack and pinion is all over the place? Thx
Now I have something to mate with my Tune
Can you please please please do a full tool box video tour 😍😍😍😍
What about the best upgrade for the 2.7 ecoboost? Hope you'll make a video for that too!
Great video dude.....do you know if that eco boost engine was built and cast at the Cleveland Ford Plant ??
Melling should make this for the new 3.5 eco boost ASAP!