Great battle between these two ultimate firewood saws, Echo CS-620 vs Stihl MS290 with the big bore kit! Both great saws but one out performs the other.
Looked good Dave, the Echo is cutting like a new knife for sure. The Stihl is still doing a good job too. Thanks for comparing for us. That's some fine wood you're cutting up and a real good heating wood too. Fred.
I put the new cylinder and piston kit on the Stihl last summer, probably has 5-8 hours on it. I didn’t change the crank, bearings, or seals so I’m sure they have a good bit more! I’m going to cut down the rakers a bit more on the Stihl to give it a little more aggressive cut but I’m still not sure it will be on pace with the echo.
I appreciate your sacrifice of the greatest firewood around for the sake of science! Please burn those cookies… and thanks for putting together the video! Echo all the way!!
Very impressive Dave. Even before you did the split screen I could pretty much tell the Echo was a little faster. Just imagine when it gets broke in, itsonly gonna get better. Right now everything is brand new and tight with the Echo, it's performance will only get better. That was an awesome test you done buddy.
I’ve had 620p for about 6 months and I think it’s outstanding. I have an stihl ms 391 that’s about 8 months and I never use it now that I have the echo. Couldn’t get the Stihl to oil.
Hey Dave, nice comparison video. The split screen was cool, the Echo was clearly faster, but don’t think you can go wrong with either both nice saws. Kind of like going out to dinner and trying to decide between the Prime Rib or a Porterhouse steak- different but both great! Have a good evening
Howdy Mike! Thank you, I had a lot of fun running both of these saws and your right. They are both great saws, I’m going to make the Stihls chain a little more aggressive and try again but I don’t think it will be faster but maybe a bit closer! Thanks for watching 🤠
**Almost all of these comparison videos** - Lemme take this clapped out Stihl with 500 working hours on it and put it up against a brand new, out of the box saw. Well GOLLY, that new saw sure cuts good!
I would agree, almost all of them! But in this case that 290 has a new 390 BB kit with maybe 15-20 hours on it. But yes that new echo did cut great! Thanks for watching.
I run almost only Echo for my tree service and I love their saws. They always start they run great and they never break. A little heavier sometimes than the other major brands but worth the trade-off in my opinion. One thing I noticed with echo is after about six or seven tanks through it it’s broken and comes to life quite a bit more. Having them readjusted afterwards as far as fuel is a major help as well. Echo leaves a lot on the table power wise to be discovered if you want to have the saws readjusted.
Thank you, I appreciate the heads up! I’ll definitely look into that. These saws sure seem to cut great, I think this 620 is my new favorite for bucking firewood! Thanks for watching 🤠
No doubt buddy! I enjoy both saws, of course I like all chainsaws 😂 but I had a lot of fun running these two back to back. The Stihl will have another attempt I’m sure 🤠.
That saw sure is great, i cant really relate to an unreliable stihl. Mine have all been great saws, and ill end up with a husky to try one day. I like running all types of saws.
I just bought this saw had a sthil farm boss used it 3x and it's piston and seals blew. Sthil is garbage contacted sthil to place a case that it was defective and they have horrible customer service. I have owned alot of sthil products and will never go back to them so far very impressed with my echo chain saw as well as weedeater
Man that’s terrible the lack of customer support, I’ve been thankful to have had great luck with all of my Stihl saws but i tell ya this 620 is a wicked firewood saw! I really enjoy it so far. Thanks for watching!
I read a lot of Stihl customer reviews, hard to start, new computer controlled mixture saws burning down, bad customer service, no returns on defective saws, you are just stuck with it. Going to buy a Echo👍🏻
I just got a Timberwolf, its great. I only have owned one other Echo saw, a smaller one. Its works good for me the few times I used it. Stihl has good saws too. These are not bad for homeowner/ranch use. Echo is the Toyota of small engines. Stihl is the BMW or Volkswagen depending on how much you're willing to pay. I chatted the guy up at Home Depot and told him to give me a discount for the slightly ripped box and he gave me 50 bucks off, so I got a $459 saw for $409, I had to buy it at that price. Thanks for the video comparing the two.
Hey thanks for commenting! Sounds like you have gotten a good saw for a good price. Best of luck with it, they are great saws. Thanks again, take care!
The Timberwolf is a great saw with lots of potential. With a few mods they rip. Carb mod, timing advance, muff mod, base gasket delete and it will scoot. Also the 620 coil and full wrap is nice addition as well.
I really can’t say anything bad about either other than the price of Stihl. I’ve definitely gotten more run time with a Stihl but I think Echo is a great brand especially for the price! I do believe I’m going to look for a 372 husqvarna as my next saw.
It sounds like 60cc engine lack off power in osage orange very hardwood... Both saws engines sounded on low rpm, and bog down... If it was me, for that kind off hardwood, i would go 70cc
Had a 590 Timberwolf...Incredible saw...beat a few Huskys in cuts a few times....Echo fan here
I was very pleased with how those echos run! Great saws, thanks for watching!
Looked good Dave, the Echo is cutting like a new knife for sure. The Stihl is still doing a good job too. Thanks for comparing for us. That's some fine wood you're cutting up and a real good heating wood too. Fred.
Thanks Fred! I’m glad you enjoyed it, I know I sure did. A chainsaw in the hands is always a good time 🤠
How many hours do you actually have on the ms361 to the echo what's the age difference
I put the new cylinder and piston kit on the Stihl last summer, probably has 5-8 hours on it. I didn’t change the crank, bearings, or seals so I’m sure they have a good bit more! I’m going to cut down the rakers a bit more on the Stihl to give it a little more aggressive cut but I’m still not sure it will be on pace with the echo.
I was just curious
@@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarmhow about chains? Were they equally sharpened?
If I remember right the 361 was sharp but needed the guides filed down to allow for an aggressive cut. Both great running saws!
Echo forever.
It sure is an impressive saw, which echo saw is your favorite? Thanks for watching
@@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm 440 EVL
I appreciate your sacrifice of the greatest firewood around for the sake of science! Please burn those cookies… and thanks for putting together the video! Echo all the way!!
Haha your welcome :) sure is a great burning wood! I sure appreciate you watching, take care.
Very impressive Dave. Even before you did the split screen I could pretty much tell the Echo was a little faster. Just imagine when it gets broke in, itsonly gonna get better. Right now everything is brand new and tight with the Echo, it's performance will only get better. That was an awesome test you done buddy.
Thanks Dean! Yes looking forward to getting more fuel ran through it. It’s a good runner 🤠
Echoes need the muffler gutted and retuned and it will be a totally different machine
I’ve had 620p for about 6 months and I think it’s outstanding. I have an stihl ms 391 that’s about 8 months and I never use it now that I have the echo. Couldn’t get the Stihl to oil.
Hey Josh, I tell ya this saw sure is impressive! It’s becoming one of my favorites. It’s about the perfect big firewood saw! Thanks for watching
Hey Dave, nice comparison video. The split screen was cool, the Echo was clearly faster, but don’t think you can go wrong with either both nice saws. Kind of like going out to dinner and trying to decide between the Prime Rib or a Porterhouse steak- different but both great! Have a good evening
Howdy Mike! Thank you, I had a lot of fun running both of these saws and your right. They are both great saws, I’m going to make the Stihls chain a little more aggressive and try again but I don’t think it will be faster but maybe a bit closer! Thanks for watching 🤠
The Echo has more torque then the Stihl.
Nice saw
I think the echo has a better anti-vibration system
I tell ya Larry I’m very pleased with how it performs, definitely proving itself here on the hobby farm 🤠
Nice run on the saws…..that concrete Osage Orange will eat up saws……(chains) 😏 🪵🤜🏼⛓🪚🤛🏼
Thanks it was a blast! Your right that’s stuff is wicked tough.
Isn't the Echo bar a 20 inch, compared to 18 inch on the Stihl ?
I can’t exactly remember, I thought they were both 20”. I will say the echo saw is a pretty wicked saw.
**Almost all of these comparison videos** - Lemme take this clapped out Stihl with 500 working hours on it and put it up against a brand new, out of the box saw. Well GOLLY, that new saw sure cuts good!
I would agree, almost all of them! But in this case that 290 has a new 390 BB kit with maybe 15-20 hours on it. But yes that new echo did cut great! Thanks for watching.
I run almost only Echo for my tree service and I love their saws. They always start they run great and they never break. A little heavier sometimes than the other major brands but worth the trade-off in my opinion. One thing I noticed with echo is after about six or seven tanks through it it’s broken and comes to life quite a bit more. Having them readjusted afterwards as far as fuel is a major help as well. Echo leaves a lot on the table power wise to be discovered if you want to have the saws readjusted.
Thank you, I appreciate the heads up! I’ll definitely look into that. These saws sure seem to cut great, I think this 620 is my new favorite for bucking firewood! Thanks for watching 🤠
They definitely wake up my 7310 didn’t seem to open up 100% for almost 15 tanks of gas then I retuned.
What models do you like best in the 50-60cc arena
It’s nice to have a couple different saws while out in the woods cutting. Nice split screen comparison
No doubt buddy! I enjoy both saws, of course I like all chainsaws 😂 but I had a lot of fun running these two back to back. The Stihl will have another attempt I’m sure 🤠.
Very nice comparison . That echo is very nice . I like the warranty with the echo . The stihl is a very good saw also .
Thank you! Yes they are both good running I had a lot of fun running them against each other. I appreciate ya watching!
You using trick camera's Lol the MS 361 is waiting patiently! Lol nice job Dee PS, I do like the Echo too! 👍
Haha yes I’m really anxious to see how they compare! This was a lot of fun, I think I need to buy more saws to do more comparisons 🤠
I need to add a husky to the mix also!
Echo power and reliability beats any saw on the market can buy 4 590 timberwolf compared to one unreliable sthil or junk husky
That saw sure is great, i cant really relate to an unreliable stihl. Mine have all been great saws, and ill end up with a husky to try one day. I like running all types of saws.
I just bought this saw had a sthil farm boss used it 3x and it's piston and seals blew. Sthil is garbage contacted sthil to place a case that it was defective and they have horrible customer service. I have owned alot of sthil products and will never go back to them so far very impressed with my echo chain saw as well as weedeater
Man that’s terrible the lack of customer support, I’ve been thankful to have had great luck with all of my Stihl saws but i tell ya this 620 is a wicked firewood saw! I really enjoy it so far. Thanks for watching!
@@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm thanks for your video and reply sir.
I read a lot of Stihl customer reviews, hard to start, new computer controlled mixture saws burning down, bad customer service, no returns on defective saws, you are just stuck with it. Going to buy a Echo👍🏻
That stock echo sounds a bit weak😢. Maybe a muffler mode, it wouldn't hurt it, tune it up while you're at it😮.
Yeah it could have been leaned out just a bit but i prefer to run my saws a bit fat, they seem to last much longer :) thanks for watching!
Echos tend to have more torque than Stihl in the same size class saw, Stihl seems to make its power higher revs.
Yes i sure enjoyed that echo
Billy Ray would be in disgust with this technique,,bent over 24 bars
🤣🤣 haha probably so!
I just got a Timberwolf, its great. I only have owned one other Echo saw, a smaller one. Its works good for me the few times I used it. Stihl has good saws too. These are not bad for homeowner/ranch use. Echo is the Toyota of small engines. Stihl is the BMW or Volkswagen depending on how much you're willing to pay. I chatted the guy up at Home Depot and told him to give me a discount for the slightly ripped box and he gave me 50 bucks off, so I got a $459 saw for $409, I had to buy it at that price. Thanks for the video comparing the two.
Hey thanks for commenting! Sounds like you have gotten a good saw for a good price. Best of luck with it, they are great saws. Thanks again, take care!
The Timberwolf is a great saw with lots of potential. With a few mods they rip. Carb mod, timing advance, muff mod, base gasket delete and it will scoot. Also the 620 coil and full wrap is nice addition as well.
I could tell the echo was runninng stronger clearly.
It really was, sure is a great saw! I appreciate ya watching 🤠
I think Echo is slightly better than Stihl..i'm amazed 👌
I agree, that Echo is a really strong running saw!
Echo and Stihl super😀nice video and job .👍🌲🌳
Thanks! I had a lot of fun with this one 🤠. Always a good day when you get to play with saws! I appreciate ya watching and commenting!
Should get one carbide-tipped chain for that wood. Usually can't get too many passes with regular chain.
Yes that stuff is nasty haha, looking forward to more ash and cherry! Take care
Stihl are good but I'm a echo man they have more power for less money!
Yes i liked running that echo but i primarily run stihl. I just like chainsaws so i have a hodge-podge collection haha
@@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm me too got a Husqvarna also the ashe bore made my life hell out here in New York so my saws have been putting in work!
My crew rarely uses anything except echo
I appreciate ya watching! Take care
I got the 590. Love that saw. Imma get that 620 here sometimes soon. Good video by the way :)
Awesome, yes it is a great saw so far! I think you’d be impressed with it 🤠 thanks for watching!
You should do head to head with these two + Husqvarna
Thanks for watching! I’d love to buy a Husqvarna, I think it will be my next brand to try. Take care!
I wouldn't take a husky for free
Nice video! I like echo products
Thanks!! I’m becoming a bigger fan each time I use them. This chainsaw is becoming one of my favorites 🤠
Echo is made in Japan, Stihl is made in China and assembled in the US. Japan knows how to make 2 stroke engines I think I'm leaning toward an Echo.
I really can’t say anything bad about either other than the price of Stihl. I’ve definitely gotten more run time with a Stihl but I think Echo is a great brand especially for the price! I do believe I’m going to look for a 372 husqvarna as my next saw.
It sounds like 60cc engine lack off power in osage orange very hardwood...
Both saws engines sounded on low rpm, and bog down...
If it was me, for that kind off hardwood, i would go 70cc