Simon is a good example of "The abused can be abusers". It's not right, but often in cases like his, they feel their past hurt justifies their horrific actions.
I feel like a lot of characters can be that example. Like Catra from She-Ra or Carmilla from Castlevania not just Simon. I find that I am finding these types of characters often nowadays.
@@bengi8907 Eh, Carmilla is more like Cersei Lannister. She *claims* that she is abused and looked down upon for being a woman by stupid old men, but this really just self-entitlement since we see later that she is incredibly temperamental and impulsive which is why her sisters have to do the actual planning for her. Carmilla mainly just wants to stroke her own ego more than anything else
@@bengi8907 Except with Simon and Catra they don't believe their hurt justifies their actions. Simon just doesn't care, and Catra realizes it's wrong, but she feels so betrayed she can't bring herself to leave.
I think he got triggeed by that word cuz he hated his child-self, cuz of him feelign weak. Just a theory, but many adults are the same with a smiliar case liek Simon.
I thought it was because Tuba called him a child, and compared him to her daughter. They even had a little sentimental moment, and deep down Simon knows he’s wrong he just can’t admit it. I think he harbors guilt for killing Tuba, even if it’s just a sliver, which is why he hates hearing that word again
Except if you think the train saved you from your horrible life... Maybe Simon was used to being almost beaten to death or was bullied so much he wanted to die everyday. it would explain his lust for power so he finally feels in control. It would also explain his way of killing others to gain his power or 'safety'.
@@Fingerscrossedout Even if that were the case it still didn't end well for him, now did it? No his desire for escapism ultimately gets him killed, horribly so if I may add. In the end you cannot run from life, lest you end up running towards a horrible death.
Grace just found out that everything she believed about the conductor is wrong...and she’s taking the news surprisingly well. Better than Simon, for sure. I’m thoroughly impressed by Grace’s character arc.
I wonder if she was better able to accept what Amelia was saying because, deep down, she knew that when she got on the train she had no idea what was going on, and that she guessed her way through why she was there. Simon, on the other hand, was taught by Grace and took what she said as absolute fact.
@@DKAllen2012 ya Simon had a low number too... he could gotten off within a few days literally a child I like grace but she made Simon the monster he is but she did it on accident feeding him a lie she didn’t know was a lie
When you get good at manipulation, you begin to understand how easy it is to be lied to, yourself. Thus, when your own false reality is shattered, it's easy to not cut yourself on the pieces. Simon is a born sociopath with violent tendencies. He'll crawl covered in oil and salt over the broken pieces just to feel like he's still in that old reality.
Kinda ironic when you think about it. He strives to increase his number to show his strength when it really just shows how incredibly weak his is as a person. I mean, he didn’t even have the strength to accept that he was wrong, he just acted like a big baby and rejected reality like he was some kind of god. Talk about pathetic
According to the shows creators he is a clinical narcissist, yes he is weak but there is a reason behind that. Makes you wonder if he could have ever gotten off the train if he was literally incapable of noticing his issues.
@@Toneill029 yes but he didn't start out that way. It was Grace plus trauma and adversity that turned him into this. I believe people can change unless they are truly disfigured to the point that they are more animal then person. Simon could have changed, he could've seen his flaws, it was just more difficult for him then for other people. He was not destined to die like this as he was. I believe if he had a better role model he wouldnt have been a narcissist.
Simon would: - Traumatize a child - Hit an old woman - Murder a parental figure - Peek at his friend’s memory Edit Spoilers: ⬇️ -Wheel his best friend There are things I probably missed, feel free to list them down.
Finally, finally. FI.NA.LLY!! About time these two learned the truth, especially Simon. I’m sorry, but every now and again people need a major wake up call in order to grow up. It hurst, sure, but it builds character.
Fun fact: One of the show writers for infinity train describes Simon as a clinical narcissist. He absolutely cannot stand to be wrong so he rewrites everything in his head. "I'm always right there for anyone who disagrees with me is wrong, And if I'm always right literally all my actions are justifiable." But she also said that clinical narcissists are also very caring provided that you live by their rules. And if they are physically abusive they are the type to say: "Why do you make me hit you?" Which is why when Simon said to Grace "I liked what we had, But you made me do this." That's an example of him refusing to take responsibility for his actions and blaming the fact that he was doing them on another person because he absolutely refused to believe that he was doing anything wrong. Hence why he is a clinical narcissist.
@@sylph4252 For real. Probably my favorite character in the whole show. I know that sounds wrong but his arc and deterioration as a human being throughout the third season is so realistic and raw, I just love it so much. I also adore the message he presents, that sometimes people can't change and will stay irredeemable, no matter how hard you try to "fix" them.
@@PatZalatoris That's entirely possible, but I don't think she would let him off so easily. She said "I will put you down". That could mean just a slap, or a kick, just knocking him on his butt, or giving him the Lassie treatment. She certainly seems like a less violent and more reasonable person now, but we saw what happened when Tulip got in her way. She could have meant that she was going to PUT HIM DOWN.
@@thenerdiestbear5403 She would never "put him down" permanently. That would make her number go up uber-high. She was probably gonna punch him in his face or something.
"You know, you may have successfully overthrown me and all, but I learned a lot during my time exploring the train, and I know you did too! You may not have helped yourself terribly much, but know what? It's never too late to start!" "Also, that group of kids running around the train likely won't be so inclined to... _cooperate_ with you as you are now, so you may want to take this!" -One-One, probably
@@DesktopDinosaur considering they practically worshiped her Conductor persona, and earlier she actually enjoyed messing with them, I think she do something like that
Cersei: “Simon is a child.” Tyrion: “Who’s gone more psychotic every time. Do you understand we’re losing the boy.” Cersei: “What do you know about psychology?” Tyrion: “Nothing. But i know people. And i know he hates one one almost as much as he hates us.”
It’s kinda sad when you think about it. When Simon got on his number was in the low fifties. If he had simply known what the train was for then he would’ve gotten off years ago
I always find it ironic when the aggressor demands for someone to fight them on _their_ terms. "Fight me in such a manner where **I** have the advantage!"
In this episode, Amelia mentions that the car reset, which makes me wonder if the apex left their mall car, it would reset. I really want that to happen because I want to see what the mall car was like before the apex took over. Plus I think we can all agree that we don’t like the apex.
I wonder if Amelia would have actually killed Simon there. After all, the Cat said that she did some truly horrific things during her time as the conductor
Ik it’s not unusual to count to 3 for a warning, but notice how she starts at 1 to count, instead of how some people may countdown from 3, which makes Simon get even more mad at hearing the “false” conductor’s name
“Put you down” wow that’s uh a really twisted and distant way to say you’ll kill him. He really is too far gone if he doesn’t even understand a death threat when he hears one. I wonder at what point exactly he crossed beyond reason.
Here’s A dialogue exchange between Simon and Amelia that I think could have happened. Simon: Stop treating me like a child! Amelia: Then stop ACTING like one.
Because Amelia can only make cars with Turtles in it, or turtles if it's a living being. She said it herself "so many Turtles that it makes you say 'why? Why turtles again?'"
if he had left this encounter with a busted jaw or broken leg he might've lived to actually see reason. the problem with Simon was that he was able-bodied, he could go out and make some sad pitiful scavenger life for himself as well as drag others into his suffering. he wasn't old, he wasn't weak, he wasn't impaired, and he wasn't quite alone so he could continue to build himself up even in the face of the truth. the only thing i wished had happened was for Simon's final moment to be visions of his family having moved on, even having another kid who is now the age he was when he got on the train (or something) with now context to let him know whether or not the missed him/he still had a place in their hearts.
i'm so surprised at how high amelia's number still is. not only did she leave oneone where he's supposed to be, she's even trying to make things right. like that's very big of her to do that.
Amelia was straight up about to just break Simon's fucking leg then crush his throat beneath her boot if Hazel didn't say anything. Grace wasn't doing shit outside of yelling at Simon to stop. She didn't move to help. She knew, just like us, that Simon would have died in all likelihood. She wanted it. She knew she'd made a bigger monster than the ones she'd convinced herself existed all throughout the train. And the train has some scary shit both on, and outside it. But she can't kill him. No no no. When you make a monster, and it smiles at you as a child smiles at its parents, it becomes that much harder to do what needs to be done. But Amelia doesn't care. Hell, offing Simon would've brought her number back to its original value if anything.
It’s worth remembering that for all the horrible things Simon did-he was following Grace’s lead. She taught him every belief he has, and likely would’ve never changed if she hadn’t believed Hazel to be a passenger. If she had been turtle-esque when they first met, Grace likely would have written her off the same way Simon does later. Maybe even killed her. Tuba wouldn’t have gotten a chance to live without Hazel there, that’s for sure. Point is, Simon’s monstrous actions are direct consequences of believing in Grace’s way of life, so we can’t absolve her of that responsibility. Simon may be the one stuck in his ways, but Grace has been killing denizens like Lake and Tuba and brainwashing hundreds of children to do the same for a very, very long time. From his perspective she was a hypocrite, believing lies from someone working for the person who’s been hunting his family, just cuz she developed a fondness for someone whom he was taught by Grace herself was not deserving of it. Simon is horrible, he’s truly the worst kind of human there is, and there are no excuses for that. We just have to accept that Grace isn’t exactly a good person either. I mean Grace changes, and that’s great-but she’s got a long, long way to go before she can be considered redeemed in any meaningful way. Just important to remember.
Like the detail that Amelia always says One and not One One and her suit just has one dot not two like how we first see him. Makes me think that One One lost his mind during his exile.
Honestly, how was Amelia’s number still so high? I find it really really big of her to want to make amends with oneone. It was probably harder for her to fully let go of ulrick than she thought. Unless if they want to make a plot twist out of it. They=the infinity train people who make the show.
Think about it, she spent over thirty years on the train, not just refusing to let go of her problems; but she OVERTHREW the train conductor and tampered with it for her own benefit. That's a long time to build up a high number. She did a lot of things against the train's purpose so her number increased. Even if she accepted to let go of Ulrick, she still has to make amends for what she did after overthrowing One-One. Her purpose is now to 'fix' the train, after that if she has properly reconciled with her trauma with Ulrick, the train will open a door for her. The train stacks your inability to cope with your problems as well as just being a complete asshole.
So the train is basically therapy for those who need to work out their issues and they don’t get to go home until they have a breakthrough (aka get their number to zero). The higher your number is the bigger your issue is and the longer you stay.
I always hated simon even when we first saw them he's just a kid who refused to grow up and instead became a monster this is gonna sound messed up but I enjoyed seeing him die
Eh i dont think it was that messed up the dude was given a chance at redemption and smacked it away after he tried to hurt an old lady kill a parental figure scar a 6 year old and felt no remorse of his actions i was spoiled that he was gonna die and when he killed tuba i was like IM GONNA LOVE WATCHING THIS ASS HAT DIE!!! because i loved tubas character and when he went back to make sure she was dead after she helped him he came to a 6 year and was like "hey guys i just killed one of our friends in a really gruesome way! cool right?" and when he expected praise for it i wanted to strangle him, even more when he was wondering why every one was so mad at him my only complaint about infinity train season 3 was that Simon wasn't killed the same way tuba was "wheeled" for karma he didn't deserve that mercy.
Wow, does Simon remind me of zamasu from dragon ball super. I mean, they are both sociopathic freaks who see nothing wrong with their actions and never come to the conclusion that they might be wrong about anything. And worst of all, they see nothing wrong with killing people that they don’t see as real people or equals in any way.
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Simon is a good example of "The abused can be abusers". It's not right, but often in cases like his, they feel their past hurt justifies their horrific actions.
I feel like a lot of characters can be that example. Like Catra from She-Ra or Carmilla from Castlevania not just Simon. I find that I am finding these types of characters often nowadays.
Thank you from taking the words from my mouth.
@@bengi8907 Eh, Carmilla is more like Cersei Lannister. She *claims* that she is abused and looked down upon for being a woman by stupid old men, but this really just self-entitlement since we see later that she is incredibly temperamental and impulsive which is why her sisters have to do the actual planning for her. Carmilla mainly just wants to stroke her own ego more than anything else
Bruh there needs to be more of this kind of rep in media (with the abuser NOT getting a pass for all they did) because it's freaking TRUE
@@bengi8907 Except with Simon and Catra they don't believe their hurt justifies their actions. Simon just doesn't care, and Catra realizes it's wrong, but she feels so betrayed she can't bring herself to leave.
It is so satisfying finally seeing grace and Simon learn what the train is actually for
Well, simon didn't change his mind, bruh.
@L E V E L 0 yeah, like amelia said: he was just a child (in the form of a young adult)
social media animations secundario dude, no child is that crazy and immature. Even the kids in the apex were shocked by his behavior.
@L E V E L 0 simon is a child
it is so satisfying when simon gets turned into mashed potatoes
The irony of Simon, fighting over being called a "child" is when one episode, he said only "kids" get to be in the Apex..
Pretty sure this wasn't coincidental
Honestly I'm not sure if Simon and Grace know that they're 18 now
I think he got triggeed by that word cuz he hated his child-self, cuz of him feelign weak. Just a theory, but many adults are the same with a smiliar case liek Simon.
I thought it was because Tuba called him a child, and compared him to her daughter. They even had a little sentimental moment, and deep down Simon knows he’s wrong he just can’t admit it. I think he harbors guilt for killing Tuba, even if it’s just a sliver, which is why he hates hearing that word again
Simon: Why would anyone want to get off this train!?
Anyone with common sense: Why would anyone want to stay!?
Except if you think the train saved you from your horrible life... Maybe Simon was used to being almost beaten to death or was bullied so much he wanted to die everyday. it would explain his lust for power so he finally feels in control. It would also explain his way of killing others to gain his power or 'safety'.
@@Fingerscrossedout Even if that were the case it still didn't end well for him, now did it? No his desire for escapism ultimately gets him killed, horribly so if I may add. In the end you cannot run from life, lest you end up running towards a horrible death.
i would love to escape this and be on the train ngl
@@KarutoZoaldyeck Have fun dodging Gohm's and a whole host of other dangers and monstrosities, for the rest of your soon to be living Hell of a life!
@@Horrorcrusher8312 ghoms only exust to those tryjng to leave the train
Grace just found out that everything she believed about the conductor is wrong...and she’s taking the news surprisingly well. Better than Simon, for sure.
I’m thoroughly impressed by Grace’s character arc.
Looks like shes starting to connect why her number has been going down recently
I wonder if she was better able to accept what Amelia was saying because, deep down, she knew that when she got on the train she had no idea what was going on, and that she guessed her way through why she was there. Simon, on the other hand, was taught by Grace and took what she said as absolute fact.
@@DKAllen2012 ya Simon had a low number too... he could gotten off within a few days literally a child I like grace but she made Simon the monster he is but she did it on accident feeding him a lie she didn’t know was a lie
When you get good at manipulation, you begin to understand how easy it is to be lied to, yourself. Thus, when your own false reality is shattered, it's easy to not cut yourself on the pieces. Simon is a born sociopath with violent tendencies. He'll crawl covered in oil and salt over the broken pieces just to feel like he's still in that old reality.
@@MejuriPlays That does sound like Simon.
Kinda ironic when you think about it. He strives to increase his number to show his strength when it really just shows how incredibly weak his is as a person. I mean, he didn’t even have the strength to accept that he was wrong, he just acted like a big baby and rejected reality like he was some kind of god. Talk about pathetic
seeing the way he was brought does make you feel for the guy tho
You dont need strength to let go of things you dont doubt. He never thought for a moment he was wrong . So he had no reason to change.
According to the shows creators he is a clinical narcissist, yes he is weak but there is a reason behind that. Makes you wonder if he could have ever gotten off the train if he was literally incapable of noticing his issues.
@@Slowpoke3x
More like he is incapable of thinking he is wrong. I heard that that according to shows writers Simon is a clinical narcissist.
@@Toneill029 yes but he didn't start out that way. It was Grace plus trauma and adversity that turned him into this. I believe people can change unless they are truly disfigured to the point that they are more animal then person. Simon could have changed, he could've seen his flaws, it was just more difficult for him then for other people. He was not destined to die like this as he was. I believe if he had a better role model he wouldnt have been a narcissist.
What's sad is Hazel perfectly reflects a child seeing grown ups fight. Its hurts and it scary especially for a child
To be fair, amelia didn't fight, like at all, shw just told the truth and stood still
@@Jin-lg9kw You’re right, Amelia just told it how it is. I bet the metaphor for the parents are Simon and Grace
It's fitting having Amelia be the one to break it to them. If there's anyone who knows about denial & self delusion it's her.
She spent the vast majority of her adult life chasing an illusion so definitely
If anything’s it’s good and unique character growth for a former villain.
Any time English actresses say “peanut” my heart just melts.
She melts my just with that accent. Her sadness and her laughter most of all.
Simon would:
- Traumatize a child
- Hit an old woman
- Murder a parental figure
- Peek at his friend’s memory
Edit Spoilers: ⬇️
-Wheel his best friend
There are things I probably missed, feel free to list them down.
Kill a gorilla
@@pedrogabrielduarte4544 That's the "murder a parental figure" part the parental figure was the gorilla
he tries to kick amelia
Created a pro-discrimination cult
Willingly cause property damage
I wish tulip and lake and Jesse return to kill him
Finally, finally. FI.NA.LLY!! About time these two learned the truth, especially Simon. I’m sorry, but every now and again people need a major wake up call in order to grow up. It hurst, sure, but it builds character.
Sadly from how I see it Grace is accepting this while Simon is bunking himself down in Denialville right next door to stubbantown
Yeah too bad Simon's way to stubborn to try and learn,
TheBlackDragonKnight
Exactly. For all I care, Simon can get eaten by the monsters that roam the wasteland. A justifiable punishment for Tuba.
@@michaelirazori9214 wow...this actually kinda aged well
@@michaelirazori9214 You totally just called it XD
Fun fact: One of the show writers for infinity train describes Simon as a clinical narcissist.
He absolutely cannot stand to be wrong so he rewrites everything in his head.
"I'm always right there for anyone who disagrees with me is wrong, And if I'm always right literally all my actions are justifiable."
But she also said that clinical narcissists are also very caring provided that you live by their rules. And if they are physically abusive they are the type to say: "Why do you make me hit you?"
Which is why when Simon said to Grace "I liked what we had, But you made me do this."
That's an example of him refusing to take responsibility for his actions and blaming the fact that he was doing them on another person because he absolutely refused to believe that he was doing anything wrong.
Hence why he is a clinical narcissist.
Simon was absolutely the WORST character in this whole series.
@@stitchlover4381 Yes Simon was a jerk but he certainly was a morally gray character.
@@stitchlover4381 Simon is the worst person but one of the best characters
@@stitchlover4381 eh amelia?
@@sylph4252 For real. Probably my favorite character in the whole show. I know that sounds wrong but his arc and deterioration as a human being throughout the third season is so realistic and raw, I just love it so much. I also adore the message he presents, that sometimes people can't change and will stay irredeemable, no matter how hard you try to "fix" them.
Your a child
SAY IT AGAIN!!
Me:Your child end of the story
Simon needed a good punch when he was younger for that temper of his
PatZalatoris 🥊
*my trying to find a belt emoji*
I really want to know what she would have done if Hazel didn't scream there.
Give him a nice hard slap to his face which he deserves
@@PatZalatoris That's entirely possible, but I don't think she would let him off so easily. She said "I will put you down". That could mean just a slap, or a kick, just knocking him on his butt, or giving him the Lassie treatment. She certainly seems like a less violent and more reasonable person now, but we saw what happened when Tulip got in her way. She could have meant that she was going to PUT HIM DOWN.
@@thenerdiestbear5403 I wouldnt want that to happen, Simon's a psycho, but I want amelia to truly change for the better
@@PatZalatoris I don't necessarily want that to happen either, but I am very curious to know exactly how she meant the phrase, "put you down".
@@thenerdiestbear5403 She would never "put him down" permanently. That would make her number go up uber-high. She was probably gonna punch him in his face or something.
Simon's gone from crazy to totally psycho.
I like to think that One-One gave Amelia that belt to "protect her from harm". It seems like something he would absolutely do.
"You know, you may have successfully overthrown me and all, but I learned a lot during my time exploring the train, and I know you did too! You may not have helped yourself terribly much, but know what? It's never too late to start!"
"Also, that group of kids running around the train likely won't be so inclined to... _cooperate_ with you as you are now, so you may want to take this!"
-One-One, probably
Yeah and that she is an old lady that would be heavily weak on her own
I personally think she invented it. It even has her signature sine wave
@@Nosjjddjjd yeah I agree
@@Nosjjddjjdperhaps it was a combined effort? Because it also has one ones face as the belt buckle.
Imagine as she was counting her voice slowly turned to that voice changer
That would be cool but it wouldn’t make much sense because why would she be holding a voice changing while trying to almost restrain Simon
@@DesktopDinosaur considering they practically worshiped her Conductor persona, and earlier she actually enjoyed messing with them, I think she do something like that
Desktop Dinosaur I know I just thought it was a funny thought, thanks! :)
That would not make much sense, but it is still a good idea. It would show that she would still have the Conductor-level rage and evil inside her!
@@TheNoiseySpectator thanks!
Man you can hear Simon's boot straining and cracking under the pressure, the same boot the breaks and almost gets him killed.
Cersei: “Simon is a child.”
Tyrion: “Who’s gone more psychotic every time. Do you understand we’re losing the boy.”
Cersei: “What do you know about psychology?”
Tyrion: “Nothing. But i know people. And i know he hates one one almost as much as he hates us.”
I love that Amelia didn’t so much as blink when Simon tries to deck her.
I like this new version of Amelia
He straight-up tried to deck an old woman. XD
Remember this is the same guy who is willing to literally kill regardless of who they are.
I mean, this old woman is powerful as fuck and has probably decked out more people.
Simon sure is a kid getting a tantrum...
It’s kinda sad when you think about it.
When Simon got on his number was in the low fifties. If he had simply known what the train was for then he would’ve gotten off years ago
0:36 One-One the little peanut
It does seem like Amelia has some affection for One now huh
I always find it ironic when the aggressor demands for someone to fight them on _their_ terms. "Fight me in such a manner where **I** have the advantage!"
0:50 “in their *RIGHT MIND* want to get off the train” yeahhh, so definitely not you…
I really wish we could’ve gotten a season following Amelia’s story
Amelia calling One One a little penut is absolutely hilarious 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣.....
And kinda true
In this episode, Amelia mentions that the car reset, which makes me wonder if the apex left their mall car, it would reset. I really want that to happen because I want to see what the mall car was like before the apex took over. Plus I think we can all agree that we don’t like the apex.
if the cars can reset, does that mean that the denizens reset as well at some point?
Simon kicking the force field is a representation of his behavior: Self-destructive
Simon wakes up and chooses violence everyday
I wonder if Amelia would have actually killed Simon there. After all, the Cat said that she did some truly horrific things during her time as the conductor
I don't think so
She would bxch slap Simon.
@@a.fernando4319 you mean she should have!
She took care not to harm passengers. She went out of her way to keep Tulip away without hurting her.
@@blara2401 didn’t she leave Tulip to a Ghom?
Ik it’s not unusual to count to 3 for a warning, but notice how she starts at 1 to count, instead of how some people may countdown from 3, which makes Simon get even more mad at hearing the “false” conductor’s name
“Put you down” wow that’s uh a really twisted and distant way to say you’ll kill him. He really is too far gone if he doesn’t even understand a death threat when he hears one. I wonder at what point exactly he crossed beyond reason.
You should’ve “put him down” when you had the chance, Amelia.....
Here’s A dialogue exchange between Simon and Amelia that I think could have happened.
Simon: Stop treating me like a child!
Amelia: Then stop ACTING like one.
With Amelia built the way she is I wouldn't put it past her to take someone down with her bare hands
This is really sad, but why does Hazel look like a Koopaling at the end
Because Amelia can't make anything without turtles in it
Im preety sure hazel is somekind of experiment. her number is the same as amelias
Because Amelia can only make cars with Turtles in it, or turtles if it's a living being. She said it herself "so many Turtles that it makes you say 'why? Why turtles again?'"
if he had left this encounter with a busted jaw or broken leg he might've lived to actually see reason. the problem with Simon was that he was able-bodied, he could go out and make some sad pitiful scavenger life for himself as well as drag others into his suffering. he wasn't old, he wasn't weak, he wasn't impaired, and he wasn't quite alone so he could continue to build himself up even in the face of the truth. the only thing i wished had happened was for Simon's final moment to be visions of his family having moved on, even having another kid who is now the age he was when he got on the train (or something) with now context to let him know whether or not the missed him/he still had a place in their hearts.
Amelia would of 100% kicked his ass if Hazel hadn't screamed
As much as it would have been fun to see Amelia whoop Simon's ass, I get why Hazel freaked out.
Let's be honest, without that shield Amelia would have just beaten his ass to the ground.
Those who are fans of infinity train see the series in hbo max, so that it has more audience and sign petitions not to cancel the series
There are more ways to continue the story so i think it can keep going.
1:15 this is a inadvertently funny moment
Amelia could kick simons ass even without the shield
Her voice alone already did that by insulting him so easily.
@@BlackDiamond2718 he is going to need a doctor for the burns he got
Silver days wildfire joke? ;)
@@BlackDiamond2718 maybe
Silver days well pray for me, for the night is dark and full of terrors.
So, simon is selfish, untrustable, jealous, a pyschopath, and unbelieving to other people
I still wonder how much time has passed since Tulip left the train.
I was honestly really hoping that shield come down so Amelia could teach this guy a lesson.
I actually really like Amelia.
I wonder if we're gonna have a season 4!!!
I wonder if she ll ever go home
*cough*
L I E S
I like the Amelia’s theme song when she is talking, i hope that song plays again in Book 5
Ouch
Ooh One One is a peanut because he is two in one.
i'm so surprised at how high amelia's number still is. not only did she leave oneone where he's supposed to be, she's even trying to make things right. like that's very big of her to do that.
Amelia was straight up about to just break Simon's fucking leg then crush his throat beneath her boot if Hazel didn't say anything. Grace wasn't doing shit outside of yelling at Simon to stop. She didn't move to help. She knew, just like us, that Simon would have died in all likelihood. She wanted it. She knew she'd made a bigger monster than the ones she'd convinced herself existed all throughout the train. And the train has some scary shit both on, and outside it. But she can't kill him. No no no. When you make a monster, and it smiles at you as a child smiles at its parents, it becomes that much harder to do what needs to be done. But Amelia doesn't care. Hell, offing Simon would've brought her number back to its original value if anything.
It’s worth remembering that for all the horrible things Simon did-he was following Grace’s lead. She taught him every belief he has, and likely would’ve never changed if she hadn’t believed Hazel to be a passenger. If she had been turtle-esque when they first met, Grace likely would have written her off the same way Simon does later. Maybe even killed her. Tuba wouldn’t have gotten a chance to live without Hazel there, that’s for sure. Point is, Simon’s monstrous actions are direct consequences of believing in Grace’s way of life, so we can’t absolve her of that responsibility. Simon may be the one stuck in his ways, but Grace has been killing denizens like Lake and Tuba and brainwashing hundreds of children to do the same for a very, very long time. From his perspective she was a hypocrite, believing lies from someone working for the person who’s been hunting his family, just cuz she developed a fondness for someone whom he was taught by Grace herself was not deserving of it. Simon is horrible, he’s truly the worst kind of human there is, and there are no excuses for that. We just have to accept that Grace isn’t exactly a good person either.
I mean Grace changes, and that’s great-but she’s got a long, long way to go before she can be considered redeemed in any meaningful way. Just important to remember.
Wow...THIS! 👍👍👍
Like the detail that Amelia always says One and not One One and her suit just has one dot not two like how we first see him. Makes me think that One One lost his mind during his exile.
Honestly, how was Amelia’s number still so high? I find it really really big of her to want to make amends with oneone. It was probably harder for her to fully let go of ulrick than she thought. Unless if they want to make a plot twist out of it. They=the infinity train people who make the show.
Think about it, she spent over thirty years on the train, not just refusing to let go of her problems; but she OVERTHREW the train conductor and tampered with it for her own benefit. That's a long time to build up a high number. She did a lot of things against the train's purpose so her number increased. Even if she accepted to let go of Ulrick, she still has to make amends for what she did after overthrowing One-One. Her purpose is now to 'fix' the train, after that if she has properly reconciled with her trauma with Ulrick, the train will open a door for her. The train stacks your inability to cope with your problems as well as just being a complete asshole.
So the train is basically therapy for those who need to work out their issues and they don’t get to go home until they have a breakthrough (aka get their number to zero). The higher your number is the bigger your issue is and the longer you stay.
Pretty much, yeah.
Damn Amelia was willing to straight up Murder Simon...
Amelia*
dam simon you're gonna punch an old woman
Honestly he would punch anyone
Simon reminds me of Stanley from SCP confinement
I always hated simon even when we first saw them he's just a kid who refused to grow up and instead became a monster this is gonna sound messed up but I enjoyed seeing him die
Eh i dont think it was that messed up the dude was given a chance at redemption and smacked it away after he tried to hurt an old lady kill a parental figure scar a 6 year old and felt no remorse of his actions i was spoiled that he was gonna die and when he killed tuba i was like IM GONNA LOVE WATCHING THIS ASS HAT DIE!!! because i loved tubas character and when he went back to make sure she was dead after she helped him he came to a 6 year and was like "hey guys i just killed one of our friends in a really gruesome way! cool right?" and when he expected praise for it i wanted to strangle him, even more when he was wondering why every one was so mad at him my only complaint about infinity train season 3 was that Simon wasn't killed the same way tuba was "wheeled" for karma he didn't deserve that mercy.
All I felt was fear, man.
Wow, does Simon remind me of zamasu from dragon ball super. I mean, they are both sociopathic freaks who see nothing wrong with their actions and never come to the conclusion that they might be wrong about anything. And worst of all, they see nothing wrong with killing people that they don’t see as real people or equals in any way.
Amelia says that she failed again and again, I wonder how so, like what was stopping her from totally succeeding?
She mentioned something about her hankerchief, it had turtles in it, it probably did something to the code she used and she couldn't undone it.
0:40 she sounds like gordon ramsey👁👄👁
I think in book 4, all the episodes would be mainly amelia going to all the cars shes created when she was the conductor
Actually wanted Amelia to put him down
Yeah. It would've been fun to see Amelia kick his ass.
You have to Wonder Why the Train came to Simon... And why he so Aggressively wants to stay on it?
Probably running away from personal problems like Tulip. I wish we got to see his past like we saw Grace’s
the creator said its because he lost a spelling bee
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Wha... Ah... HUH?!
@@williamlong5428 yeah thats probably why his number was so low when he got on the train
@@cowboymagpie hope that was a joke
Ugh I wish he would just let her talk
Cool Scene!
Amelia calling One One a peanut is the greatest thing ever.
The cat and Amelia have tried to tell Simon the truth about the train and the numbers, but he was too stubborn and too far gone to listen and accept
Wait this is on its third season? I thought it came out in 2018-2019?
Yes this is the third season
I started watching a month ago and i didnt expect to hit at this point and finish it.
Simon: SAY IT AGAIN!
Amelia: ....it again.
I really hope we will get to see more of Amelia someday in the future.
Did Amelia ever have denizen companions like Tulip, Jessie, Grace, or Simon?
Hazel
*Sees hazel turn into a turtle denezin* “um… oh wow! Who would’ve thought?”
no idea
0:03 Did she say “did thing” not “did good thing”? I can't hear it. What does she mean “did thing”?
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Am I the only one who sees this confrontation as a parallel between a progressive person and a right-winger?
For some reason, this season felt... topical.
It really sucks that a Season 5 never happened because she was supposed to be the main character
Soooo Amelia was the first Passenger?
Ok, shes not, i just saw book 4
I don't think so, Owen said the train existed before trains were created
Simon is an interesting person
Holy shit that’s Lena Headey!
Simon vs Cersie Lannister
Why Simon feels like Adolf Hi-
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