Hermes: trickster, guide, and companion

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  • Опубліковано 9 сер 2022
  • Karl Kerenyi collaborated with Jung in demonstrating the psychological meaning of Greek mythology. Kerenyi found in Hermes a representation of “a third way of living life, besides the Apollonian rational and the Dionysian irrational. God of jokes and journeys, thieves and magicians, the tricky Guide of Souls” arrives as surprise. Like the quicksilver that is his Roman name, Mercury/Hermes appears on winged sandals, heralding the new. Hermes disdains regulation and law to deliver new ideas, dissolve opposites, and provide decisive experiences. Just as he alone traversed the realms--from the heights of Mt. Olympus to the underworld of Hades--Hermes now swifts his way from the unconscious to ego awareness. The agent of creativity and transformation, Hermes is the symbol of a living reality seeking conscious acknowledgement. How we perceive his message is not his interest. He is already gone.
    HERES THE DREAM WE ANALYZE:
    “I’m on a piece of inhabited land, by the shore, with many others in a beach town. Some of the people I know, some I do not. Across the water is an island. It looks like Devil’s Tower in Wyoming (the one in Close Encounters of the Third Kind), but this island is lush, tropical and Jurassic. It’s a beautiful day, close to sunset, and the view is gorgeous. All of the sudden we all realize there are three enormous boats that look like cruise ships balancing on the edge of the top of the island. They’re huge, a third of the height of the island. One looks old, two look new. No one knows how they got there. There is a theory they went ashore when the water level was higher, but we all know that doesn’t make much sense... we would have seen them there long ago, but in this case they just appeared, seemingly out of nowhere. We all realize they’re about to fall as they’re balanced precariously. As we anticipate an enormous crash, we take shelter. I can see them fall slowly off the top of the island, to the base. There is a lot of destruction - so much dust and debris, and the sky gets very hazy. But I am safe. The next morning, we wake up, and it’s a beautiful day. The shape of the island across the water is totally different. It’s been totally reconstructed by the crash of the boats (which are no longer visible). The island looks a lot less ominous in shape. I look to my left and see that some of the debris from the island has landed in the water, which allowed for a bike path to be built from our land to the island, across the water. I realize perhaps this crash has actually improved things for the better, and everything feels calm and beautiful.”
    References:
    Karl Kerenyi. Hermes: Guide of Souls.
    Rafael Lopez-Pedraza. Hermes and His Children.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 19

  • @ShannonBoschy
    @ShannonBoschy Рік тому +8

    Sorry to miss Lisa in this episode.
    the long-short here: Hermes IS The LOGOS
    He is lord of the crossroads, the same as Thoth, Mercury he is the function of mediation between the conscious mind (Earth) the unconscious (Underworld) and the superconscious mind, the transpersonal archetypal matrix of the gods.
    He is also represented in the personal microcosm as The Genius (Jinn), The Daemon, the Spirit Guide of the people of Turtle Island.
    He is also represented by the trickster at the crossroads, Papa Legba of the Vodun/VooDoo living traditions.

  • @thomblinn4731
    @thomblinn4731 Рік тому +1

    I was born on wed., which is of Mercury so I was all ears! Thanks so much!

  • @gwendolynmurphy9563
    @gwendolynmurphy9563 8 місяців тому +1

    I love this conversation! External validation of internal understanding. There is an aspect of my inner world that identifies with Hermes, with a "networking" gene. Which has gotten me into interpersonal difficulty more often than not! . . . Deb's comment about "I need to have more fun" reflects my father's dying wish for me! I'll be listening to this again! One wonders what Lisa might have said. Perhaps a future conversation that includes her?

  • @brynicecream5824
    @brynicecream5824 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this broadcast! It has helped me so much!! Especially, the cast of characters!!!

  • @Siriusaor
    @Siriusaor Рік тому +2

    It's a function, the message, the messenger, the space where the message travels, so the sandman, Morpheus is a function of Hermes.

  • @soulsciencebyrisa
    @soulsciencebyrisa Рік тому +5

    Loved this, as a considerably mercurial individual myself. I am also brought to thinking about Mercury in astrology, and the signs that it rules not just traditionally but too in esoteric astrology that came through the theosophical works…
    Mercury typically rules Gemini and Virgo, and very strongly seen in the Gemini energy which is known for being quick, multi-skilled, adaptable and sometimes the trickster and superficial (not going deep enough).
    But Mercury rules Aries at the esoteric level, where Aries evolves from mars instinct to quick and higher mind (Aries rules the head, after all), and so we see the connection to speed there in Aries…
    And at the highest level of manifestation, Mercury actually rules scorpio - the sign considered to rule psychology itself! Which ties very nicely into what you both described in the analytic practice, as mercury pertains to the travelling to the underworld…
    Mercury is a 4th ray sign in the metaphysical frame work of Rayology, too. 4th of the 7 rays, the intermediary, the ray of the human kingdom (said to mediate between the heavens and earth). We see Scorpio again as a fourth ray sign… late astrologer Michael Robbins posited that Jung himself may likely have been a 4th ray personality type. It is said to be quite a psychic ray, and a ray that brings great wisdom and flexibility.
    I am enjoying pondering more deeply the nature of Mercury psychologically and how it is affirmed and expressed in these metaphysical interpretations.
    I should too mention that the 4th ray is called the ray of “harmony through conflict” (as it pertains to the opposites), but it is also the ray of Art and Beauty. I think that, to whatever degree we might consider depth psychology a 4th ray practice, it is really about the art of human living…
    Many thanks.

  • @cutwell9394
    @cutwell9394 14 днів тому

    Wow! You know, Chogyam Trungpa and the "crazy wisdom" tradition within Tibetan Buddhism comes to mind.

  • @smlorrin
    @smlorrin Рік тому +2

    I really enjoyed this! Thank you!

  • @LifeOfMasson
    @LifeOfMasson Рік тому +2

    Look forward to listen to this. Just was reading about hernes last night.

    • @marialuzras8743
      @marialuzras8743 Рік тому

      I enjoyed this one very much as well. And having Deborah again was lovely as she was missing .the last two times I had tuned in . Thank you!

  • @meganjohnson9540
    @meganjohnson9540 9 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for sharing this.

  • @ChriseldaPhoenix
    @ChriseldaPhoenix Рік тому +2

    I just LOVE your mythological knowledge. Would you mind sharing any readings about Hermes’s mythological story?

    • @thisjungianlife
      @thisjungianlife  Рік тому +2

      Thank you! Here's once resource on Hermes to consider, Hermes and His Children (4th Ed), www.amazon.com/dp/3856307354/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_BXAEC6AW709YE5W84N6K.

    • @ChriseldaPhoenix
      @ChriseldaPhoenix Рік тому

      @@thisjungianlife thank you so much! ♥️♥️🤡♥️🦋

  • @Siriusaor
    @Siriusaor Рік тому

    The laughing has to do with Humor as the Vitreous humor that is in the eye and delivers the light without a shadow.

    • @Siriusaor
      @Siriusaor Рік тому

      So in the humor of life, one loosen the necessity to fix a persona although that's part of the message! Genius. Thank you

  • @Amala_Vaidya
    @Amala_Vaidya Рік тому

    Please do one on pluto/hades

  • @lindseyspencer6982
    @lindseyspencer6982 Рік тому +1

    The Flash has the same wings on his head, could the CW multiverse be the Flash’s inner/outer mind