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  • @shootmdm
    @shootmdm Рік тому +528

    If you have unlimited money for a leather jacket go have it tailored and custom made.

    • @princegobi5992
      @princegobi5992 Рік тому +18

      Idk, I don’t think it would look that great. Custom and tailored is great for certain items, but I wouldn’t necessarily trust them to make something that is “now” or “en vogue”.

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr Рік тому

      @@princegobi5992Lewis Leathers makes off the rack jackets and tailored jackets. They are the best jackets one can purchase.

    • @laxmitty21
      @laxmitty21 Рік тому +40

      @@princegobi5992 well if you’re spending $2-5k on a jacket wouldn’t you want to be able to wear it for the next 10-30 years without it going out of style??

    • @penguin_edits
      @penguin_edits Рік тому +13

      @@princegobi5992 the unique nature of bespoke is that you can personalize stuff to how you want it, if you wanted a modern jacket a good tailor could make it for you

    • @LyonTheGreat
      @LyonTheGreat Рік тому +9

      ​@@princegobi5992 if your primary concern is looking trendy, then don't buy something that's made to last for decades.

  • @WithHealthbars
    @WithHealthbars Рік тому +99

    I would say -
    $500 and under - AllSaints
    $500-$1500 - Belstaff or Schott NYC
    $1500-$$$$ - The Real McCoy or just custom tailor made

    • @thesorrow312
      @thesorrow312 Рік тому +7

      For the midrange id go with Aero.

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr Рік тому +2

      You can pickup Belstaff for $35o at Nordstrom Rack. I prefer Lewis Leathers over the Real McCoy.

    • @CoolChevere
      @CoolChevere Рік тому

      100% agree with your picks.

    • @Art-lm4ik
      @Art-lm4ik Рік тому

      500 under you can definetly find a vintage balenciaga leather jacket... or a vintage prada one

    • @zombis89fisto
      @zombis89fisto Рік тому +2

      Nah Himel bros is worth it like look at their heron.

  • @mrmattg
    @mrmattg Рік тому +211

    Was in the presence of a $200k Chrome Hearts croc skin leather jacket. It was custom made and ordered by a high profile customer. The skins were symmetrical. The zips had black diamonds. The most gorgeous leather jacket I’ve ever seen.

    • @Da-ij4hd
      @Da-ij4hd Рік тому +3

      Dear god do you have a picture of it?

    • @martinvanburen4578
      @martinvanburen4578 Рік тому +12

      I once saw a Saudi Arabian businessman walk into the Hermes store and walk out with a jacket that had no price tag. It looked painfully expensive.

    • @jonathanvermillion7263
      @jonathanvermillion7263 Рік тому +1

      Omg sounds amazing

    • @phasemitski3918
      @phasemitski3918 Рік тому +1

      Bro same here chrome hearts is a beautiful brand I seen this video of this dude wearing a 20k chrome hearts jacket it was ridiculously amazing

    • @jac0b_nero
      @jac0b_nero 4 місяці тому

      Leon emanuel blanck alligator jacket at labstore in london is like 15k n just on a hanger on the wall

  • @Solid-Saiful-Plissken
    @Solid-Saiful-Plissken Рік тому +58

    As mentioned by others, AllSaints on sale has absolute steals. Copped a vegetable tanned lambskin jacket and it has become my second skin. It's supple and developing a beatiful patina.
    If I had unlimited budget my dream pick would be the Undercover x Lewis Leathers Lightening Jacket
    Jeff Goldblum rocking a Saint Laurent Biker jacket with a white button up shirt, a grey snake print silk tie, suit pants, black boots, silver rings and a watch is God Tier style icon imho

    • @SaSpursFan
      @SaSpursFan Рік тому

      How much for the allsaitns in sale?

  • @victorespino5650
    @victorespino5650 Рік тому +85

    500 for a fake leather?

    • @AxLWake
      @AxLWake 3 місяці тому

      You'd have to be a real idiot to pay that much for a plastic jacket.

    • @jahvaults6500
      @jahvaults6500 Місяць тому +1

      Ikr 😂 mugs .... Just go Primark

  • @izzybautista832
    @izzybautista832 Рік тому +36

    They act like you can't get a vintage one for under $100. And it would be better quality than many of the $500+ options

  • @starboy.99
    @starboy.99 Рік тому +24

    All Saints is another great alternative for leather jacket around and under $500

    • @estRJ
      @estRJ Рік тому +3

      Was going to comment the same! Grailed has lambskin leather All Saints jackets for $200. I got the Wick jacket (originally $600) for $200!

    • @gorgon4061
      @gorgon4061 Рік тому +2

      I own two all saints, superb quality and fit that doesn’t ask for anything to those that are too expensive.

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr Рік тому

      I would get a Belstaff for $350 at Nordstrom Rack.

    • @miniroseyo
      @miniroseyo Рік тому

      @@bngr_bngr have fun finding one

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr Рік тому

      @@miniroseyo I found two.

  • @pureounce.9184
    @pureounce.9184 Рік тому +14

    If you're buying a Saint Laurent leather jacket for your first leather get an L01 or shop pre-loved for an L17.
    In fact leathers are made to last and show more personality with age, there is no real reason to buy a top quality leather brand-new, there's loads available on the secondary market. Save money, save the environment.

  • @f4_faris
    @f4_faris Рік тому +15

    In major leather-producing countries like India or Pakistan, you can get a jacket that is the same quality and style as a $500 range jacket shown here for $30-50.
    Goes to show how much customers abroad have to (unknowingly) pay for freight charges, brand labels & store rent.

    • @nghiadinh7061
      @nghiadinh7061 4 місяці тому

      you have any name to recommend? i'm interested

  • @JasonCryer
    @JasonCryer Рік тому +20

    Props to Yang-Yi for shouting out Bourdain - definite low key style icon. I for sure got a few pairs of desert boots thanks to him.

  • @tyroneblackmon2363
    @tyroneblackmon2363 Рік тому +31

    I’m surprised they didn’t note Jeff Goldblum as a leather jacket icon. His Saint Laurent jacket and how much he rocks that is INSANE. Definitely one of my favorites

  • @superjlk_9538
    @superjlk_9538 2 місяці тому +4

    NEVER buy fake leather if you actually want to wear it. Only get faux leather if you’re trying out a new style. Real leather will last longer, feel better, and fit better every single time

  • @latinopartyrocking
    @latinopartyrocking Рік тому +50

    Ralph Lauren is the style icon period, personally, and the clothes he shares with the world. I was disappointed Jeff Goldblum, or Harry Styles, or G Eazy weren't mentioned as leather jacket icons.

  • @ajatkotwal
    @ajatkotwal Рік тому +11

    Boys and girls. Do notbuy leather jackets based on this video. This is just advertising designer trash. There are better videos on this topic on UA-cam.

  • @OVXX666
    @OVXX666 Рік тому +18

    watching this with my thrifted $15 leather jacket questioning everything rn

  • @jacobmackenzie7971
    @jacobmackenzie7971 Рік тому +10

    For cheaper leather jackets Allsaints are great idk how they didn’t mention them

    • @WomenHitTheWall
      @WomenHitTheWall 3 місяці тому

      They have no knowledge. You can tell based on their conversations by the way they asked the question on “what does Genuine Leather mean?” 😂

  • @alydematti
    @alydematti Рік тому +9

    Avidan's leather jacket fit gave me Edward Cullen vibes, which I dig!

  • @weiyezhu
    @weiyezhu Рік тому +16

    The fact Allsaints was not mentioned in the 500 category is criminal to me

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr Рік тому +1

      Over priced.

    • @hjwscott
      @hjwscott Рік тому +7

      All Saints probably didn’t pay GQ an ad fee like the other brands they mentioned did

    • @carljohnespadilla7290
      @carljohnespadilla7290 Рік тому +1

      i’ve seen an allsaints leather jacket at a thrift store. they dont have the quality that i expect for the price of pieces. so basically drop em.

    • @kevinmurillo6767
      @kevinmurillo6767 Рік тому +1

      I have over 6 allsaints leathers and some have been with me for over 6 years and they’ve lasted really well. So idk what these comments about the quality is.

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr Рік тому +2

      @@kevinmurillo6767 well if you have 6 jackets over 6 years. Then your experience is owing one jacket for one year.

  • @Martin-nj2re
    @Martin-nj2re Рік тому +3

    Mova Leather has great styles and they also offer customization for less than most of these. I got mine for 300 and it's so worth it.

  • @kitman4070
    @kitman4070 Рік тому +8

    Complete fail. Fake leathers and Saint Lauren for recommendations, might as well go for All Saints for a fraction of the price for similar quality. I'll give them Schott but no Aero leather, Eastman or any of the Japanese brands for 1k and above? I guess this a brand name over quality thing.

  • @cjc4426
    @cjc4426 Рік тому +4

    Thumbnail made it seem they were interviewing a leather jacket

  • @CorkKNIFE
    @CorkKNIFE Рік тому +3

    Was I the only person who lost interest in GQ’s style opinion once I got to see how their editors dress?

  • @zombis89fisto
    @zombis89fisto Рік тому +3

    If I had more money to get one leather jacket it would get a Himel bros leather those jackets are beautifully made and feel so good to wear.

  • @aladee1
    @aladee1 7 місяців тому +1

    Schott Perfecto has been around and worn the longest for a reason.

  • @brunosavastano1851
    @brunosavastano1851 Рік тому +1

    why does the first dude talk like he's afraid of the other two or something lol

  • @memelord3348
    @memelord3348 Рік тому +4

    Ok this is great, it’s like all the leather jackets I’ve looked at where like $900+

  • @lilbape
    @lilbape Рік тому +4

    If the criteria is quality vs price I wouldn’t go for Celine or saint Laurent
    -500$ go vintage or a lesser know biker brand on sale
    500$ - 1500$ you’re good with schott and maybe a lewis leathers if you can get your hands on one
    1500$ + go with Japanese repro brands, you’ll find some good cheaper alternatives to real McCoy and a jacket that will last forever
    But if you buy Celine for 3k + you’re basically buying 300-600$ quality with a nice tag

    • @mavrickfaust2751
      @mavrickfaust2751 11 місяців тому

      What got me was the panels on the celine, never heard of em but i saw the like 7ish pannels on the back and i was like really

  • @rocco6996
    @rocco6996 Рік тому +15

    They didn't do the classic leather jacket any justice 😔

  • @PixelPerfect3
    @PixelPerfect3 Рік тому +7

    What’s with the hats?

  • @nabetse1999
    @nabetse1999 Рік тому +5

    So the Sefr Jacket is 400 pounds and is faux leather. I know nothing about these things so can someone please educate me on why the price would be so steep for a jacket like this? Is the material great quality?

    • @jamesscalise4990
      @jamesscalise4990 Рік тому +1

      Sefr's a p nice brand. That's how much they'd probably charge for any jacket of non-leather materials

    • @corta1991
      @corta1991 Рік тому

      True! It’s a sick jacket though!

  • @PeakBagger999
    @PeakBagger999 Рік тому +4

    These would be my picks:
    $500 range and under - AllSaints, Thursday Boots
    $500-$1,500 - Belstaff, Schott, Rag & Bone, The Kooples, John Varvatos Star USA
    $1,500 - John Varvatos (grey label)

  • @JM-gf7ti
    @JM-gf7ti Рік тому +15

    can we get some hosts on these segments who actually have good style and can dress

  • @joshferdico782
    @joshferdico782 Рік тому +2

    I MUST know where Gerald Ortiz got that Rolex big boat hat!!

  • @137Furon
    @137Furon Рік тому +6

    Hilarious that the first jacket isn’t even a leather jacket like come on guys you are telling me the BEST leather jacket in this guys opinion is that hideous pleather one 😂😂😂

    • @pauls3253
      @pauls3253 Рік тому +3

      not only that but its a faux croc leather blazer… these guys are kind of a joke

    • @137Furon
      @137Furon Рік тому +3

      @@pauls3253 The bubble these guys are in doesn't let them see how cringe all of this is. theres a way to talk about mens fashion without sounding aloof and preposterous like these guys are.

  • @beforelastnight1110
    @beforelastnight1110 Рік тому +4

    Should’ve included Denzel washington training day leather jacket style🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Sumclinger94
    @Sumclinger94 Рік тому +2

    The third dude had the best fit imo

  • @bngr_bngr
    @bngr_bngr Рік тому +9

    This was the worst video. They should all be fired. What total incompetence.

  • @littytiittie9704
    @littytiittie9704 Рік тому +2

    I'm sorry but the cheapest starting price was $500 and he suggested a faux leather jacket 🤮🤮🤮

  • @brianbernal4209
    @brianbernal4209 Рік тому +3

    always thought that Marlon Brando, Slash, and Ralph Lauren looked the coolest in leather jackets

  • @jamaal_ldn
    @jamaal_ldn Рік тому +5

    Cool selection of jackets. Would've been cool to see a cafe racer jacket being styled in there though😅

  • @anthonygarza8142
    @anthonygarza8142 Рік тому +5

    Lewis Leathers all the way. Ton Up!! 💪🏻

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr Рік тому +2

      I can’t believe these three dudes didn’t know about Lewis Leathers. The choices they picked were chosen with ChatGP.

    • @ripper7208
      @ripper7208 Рік тому

      Blackmeans aswell

  • @JustSearchNate
    @JustSearchNate Рік тому +3

    Having to get them all this year. Thanks for always draining my bank GQ ;)

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr Рік тому +1

      Look at Lewis Leather. Better to have one amazing jacket than a few average jackets.

    • @JustSearchNate
      @JustSearchNate Рік тому

      @@bngr_bngr Ill check them out thank you!

  • @stillclouds
    @stillclouds Рік тому +1

    Marlo actually DIDN'T wear an official Schott jacket but the style was the same.

  • @starboy.99
    @starboy.99 Рік тому +25

    KEEP IT UP GUYS!! I LOVE THIS SERIES!! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @corta1991
    @corta1991 Рік тому +3

    Joe Jonas wore the Séfr jacket, it looks sick! Curious if it’s worth the $500 though!?

  • @videomaniac108
    @videomaniac108 Місяць тому

    I would consider Aero Leather, Himel and Rainbow Country as top tier choices.

  • @darrenheard9943
    @darrenheard9943 5 місяців тому

    That Schott leather jacket def caught my eye! It's now on my list.

  • @vaughnanglin9352
    @vaughnanglin9352 Рік тому

    Y’all should’ve mentioned Rei Kawakubo she always rocked the best leather jackets

  • @iziccoast3745
    @iziccoast3745 5 місяців тому +3

    $500 for FAUX!? Get tf outta here

  • @cale4539
    @cale4539 Рік тому +5

    there aint no way GQ said that faux leather is cool now LOLLLLLL XDDDDDDDD silly buggers

  • @bigbadvicHo
    @bigbadvicHo 7 місяців тому +3

    What about StraightToHell leather jackets?

  • @mree.9794
    @mree.9794 Рік тому +1

    and don't forget, eBay is your best friend for finding good leather deals

  • @clifforddean232
    @clifforddean232 Рік тому

    Might be dreaming but if you are giving up a large Saint Laurent drummed lambskin jacket, I'll take it and wear it in pride. Ralph gets my vote!

  • @raiahy
    @raiahy Рік тому +2

    500$ is the budget option? Sheesh how can one be so out of touch with reality

  • @FridgeTalk
    @FridgeTalk Рік тому

    LAER makes the best all custom hand made. Top celebrities already know

  • @theprogressiveatheist7024
    @theprogressiveatheist7024 Рік тому +5

    Maybe next they can recommend a Ferrari for every budget too.

  • @NatureTable
    @NatureTable Рік тому +5

    Editor and director really phoned this one in huh? Loving all the strange, rambling and awkward posturing. Every jacket being described as a trucker jacket or a proto trucker jacket. Good stuff fellas 👍

  • @edimalan14
    @edimalan14 Рік тому +3

    These guys need to have some personality. They’re vanilla if vanilla could walk and talk. They uncomfortable. Also how much were these jackets

  • @steveisgood2go
    @steveisgood2go Рік тому +2

    Did you guys even spend 2 minutes in your research? 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈

  • @Normanenorminform
    @Normanenorminform 9 місяців тому

    Y’all forgot Chevignon and aeroleather. They make some insane jackets ong

  • @24ChrisGram
    @24ChrisGram Рік тому +1

    Belstaff Calf Leather jackets are better than the expensive ones in this video imo..

  • @Junyan89
    @Junyan89 Рік тому +3

    Nobody mentioned any Japanese horsehide. Fail bruh

  • @JoshuaSlosser
    @JoshuaSlosser Рік тому +2

    In summary the schott cafe racer is the best no matter what your budget is.

    • @lestersalvador2022
      @lestersalvador2022 Рік тому

      One of my favorite jackets is a Schott 141 Cafe Racer. Good call.

  • @Sakovcatz
    @Sakovcatz Рік тому +1

    Shame I look like I should be on a register in any sort of leather jacket.

  • @ineshdheer7236
    @ineshdheer7236 Рік тому +1

    Leather jacket is synonymous with G Eazy.

  • @aj.casingcasing
    @aj.casingcasing Рік тому

    When in doubt, wear black. Yep, sums up my wardrobe and style. 😅

  • @avemusbananum
    @avemusbananum Рік тому +1

    Ralph Lauren is over the top, definition of class and style, legendary!

  • @christianbrowne8069
    @christianbrowne8069 Рік тому +1

    Clean. I've diving into the leather game sooner rather than later

  • @tempestandacomputer6951
    @tempestandacomputer6951 Рік тому

    "Its too cool for me" is probably the dumbest thing I have heard today. OWN IT

  • @iAmFAUST
    @iAmFAUST Місяць тому

    That's Ralph Lauren? Mf look like he about to say "This is Unconceivable!" in the Princess Bridge lol.

  • @thedawapenjor
    @thedawapenjor Рік тому

    I can't believe these guys didn't mention Thursday Boot's leather jacket

    • @richardcostello360
      @richardcostello360 Рік тому

      Because Thursday makes average boots but terrible jackets

    • @thedawapenjor
      @thedawapenjor Рік тому

      @@richardcostello360 Reviewers say otherwise and for price they're punching way above their weight class.

    • @richardcostello360
      @richardcostello360 Рік тому

      @thedawapenjor if you're talking about Rose Anvil and Chad "insert Polish surname".......that's because they were sponsored by Thursday......
      People who have to buy the product tend to say a totally different narrative 🙄

    • @thedawapenjor
      @thedawapenjor Рік тому

      @@richardcostello360 Well in that case as a person who has 3 of the boots, I highly recommend them. For perspective, I also have/tried Blundstones, Redbacks, Ecco, R.M Williams, and Danner.
      I would also like to mention that I don't think they could fake how often reviewers use them because what really convinced me about Thursday's were seeing them being worn thoroughly and resoled.

    • @richardcostello360
      @richardcostello360 Рік тому

      @@thedawapenjor that's funny......ALL of Thursdays boot offerings aren't welted......so can't be resoled by a cobbler 🤣
      Gluing a piece of flat rubber on the bottom isn't the same as stitching on a new sole like you can do to Danner and RM Williams boots

  • @christianvera9625
    @christianvera9625 6 місяців тому

    Does anyone know what type of Red Wing boots is Gerald wearing? Love the texture

  • @barbarataylor5068
    @barbarataylor5068 Рік тому +16

    Dude wearing a corduroy double breasted suit with a baseball hat giving fashion advice? GQ is slipping.

  • @kongmw
    @kongmw Рік тому +4

    Allsaints would be so much better rec at under 500 than the obviously fake croc print monstrosity.

  • @Tiger24kicks
    @Tiger24kicks 8 місяців тому

    I recently just got a ralph lauren black label cafe racer jacket. This week im definitely going to get a black label shearling jacket. After that i want this saint laurent biker jacket. Best person to wesr a leather coat to me is Heidi slimane.

  • @Kiennguyen-gn4rz
    @Kiennguyen-gn4rz Рік тому +1

    Stop capping, why would I buy a 500 faux leather jacket?

  • @richardcorti3921
    @richardcorti3921 Рік тому +1

    Was wondering if anybody has heard Of a leather jacket company called guidemaster wolf. It's a horse high jacket made between 1955 and 1965. I have one but never heard of it

  • @taegyuleee
    @taegyuleee Рік тому

    Please help me choosing a leather jacket between Acne studio Nate and Saint Laurent L01 thks!!🙏

  • @yarbles69
    @yarbles69 Рік тому +2

    Brando didn't wear a Schott in The Wild One, he wore a brand called Durable. There are replicas made out of the same pattern, crazy expensive though.

    • @richardcostello360
      @richardcostello360 Рік тому

      Brando DID wear a Schott jacket.....the thing you're confused about is the model label Dur A Jac

    • @geoffreydalson3944
      @geoffreydalson3944 4 місяці тому +1

      Durable was a company that made a copied version of the classic Schott perfecto. It is said that the jacket worn in The Wild One was in fact a Durable brand that emulated the original and more popular Schott. You are correct that Dur A Jac was a model label that Schott used but Durable was its own separate company.

    • @geoffreydalson3944
      @geoffreydalson3944 4 місяці тому

      Dur-O-Jac actually.

  • @jaden230
    @jaden230 Рік тому +1

    anyone knows where can get the cardigan like Avidan wearing?

  • @josephnolfo75
    @josephnolfo75 Рік тому +6

    lol a $500 "budget" jacket

  • @thesorrow312
    @thesorrow312 Рік тому +2

    If you get yves st laurent rather than himmel bros, the real mccoys or other top tier Japanese leather jacket brands, you've made a mistake.

  • @javierlizarraga6539
    @javierlizarraga6539 Рік тому +2

    I really love terminator 2 jacket 😎

  • @MakeyJu
    @MakeyJu Рік тому +4

    - Under 500$
    BUDGET??? 😬

    • @jamesscalise4990
      @jamesscalise4990 Рік тому +2

      For a fully leather jacket? What are you expecting

    • @levicohen7333
      @levicohen7333 Рік тому +1

      Go to a vintage store and you’ll find a real leather of any one of these brands for 200 or less

  • @RLSteffler
    @RLSteffler 9 місяців тому

    The genuine leather thing is a bit off. Bonded leather is not referred to as "genuine leather". Genuine leather is the same level as most suede, meaning it is still an actual piece of hide, but it is below top and full grain leather.

    • @RLSteffler
      @RLSteffler 9 місяців тому

      And many times especially in past years, proper cowhide has often been referred to as genuine leather.

  • @16soccerball
    @16soccerball Рік тому

    Its about to be summer. Why am i watching a leather jacket video

  • @mattvideos9203
    @mattvideos9203 9 місяців тому

    What do you think about the European biker, small collar jacket
    You kind of only picked jackets with traditional collars

  • @blasgarza8942
    @blasgarza8942 Рік тому

    John Varvatos???? Finishes and Styles like no one else does

  • @shiv2nite
    @shiv2nite Рік тому +1

    always get a chuckle out of these identity crisis cornball looks. 🤠

  • @thomasleibreich8442
    @thomasleibreich8442 Рік тому

    thursday jackets for under 500 is a great option

  • @avijain6474
    @avijain6474 Місяць тому

    Does anyone have any reviews for RocketUSA? I really like their Shearling sheep skin jacekt

  • @BlackbirdOperator
    @BlackbirdOperator Рік тому

    Which jacket is that in gerards style

  • @deepsoulfulsounds
    @deepsoulfulsounds Рік тому

    I love my 519 Perfecto!

  • @emiliocian8337
    @emiliocian8337 Рік тому

    Leather jacket smells of rockstar so Pete Doherty with his leather at Glastonbury 2005.

  • @reggiefurlow1
    @reggiefurlow1 Місяць тому

    Rest in peace Wilson's

  • @RLSteffler
    @RLSteffler 9 місяців тому

    The Schott is head and shoulders above the Céline in terms of quality

  • @Alistair_McCullom
    @Alistair_McCullom Рік тому +2

    Indiana Jones was the best to ever do it

  • @JWickyJr13
    @JWickyJr13 11 місяців тому

    500 is the lowest. Here's me, looking at an 80 dollar faux leather one. Haha

  • @drone124
    @drone124 Рік тому

    Do denim jackets next

  • @nanop-dx1hx
    @nanop-dx1hx Рік тому

    Definitely Anthony Bourdain. Anyone know where I can find one like he had?

    • @ruslan8820
      @ruslan8820 2 місяці тому

      I cant find either