My only problem with Zac is that it's team reliant. So if your ADC or other lanes are dodo in DPS or behind and don't know how to DPS while you're CCing your opponents, you just end up dying because Zac's damage output is pretty low unless you go pure AP with Meij into Rabbadon, but that build is only good if you're ahead and never die.
Yeah he is way more team reliant now. Before preseason he was really good and could 1v9 games because of Sunfire being so good on him. Gave him so much damage you would literally one shot carries and now you don't have that insane damage cus rip sunfire so you are more of a utility support ish tank.
im a zac Main since season 6. i know what you mean and stix also was right with what he said about this champ in this video. My itemization always was based on my teammates until i realized zac can oneshot their backline by going AP. In my opinion full AP is overdrive because you become a glasscanon very quickly and your E is very easy to flash since your ability to oneshot relies on landing it. This is why i recommend getting CDR (boots + kindlegem) as early as possible. by watching lanes while you jungle, you should learn to watch your own teammates. After just a few seconds, I can now tell from lasthitting, trading with the opponent (generally micro), whether my teammate is solid or not. as soon as you have the first impression of your team, you decide on your items. Of course, you should also pay attention to the opponent's pick! the first impression avoids your frustration in many cases if you e.g. initiate a fight (tank build) without following teammates. you will tank a lot, but wont do enough damage to solo kill the backline. Most of the time you wont survive. with the first impression you can directly set the first or second item to AP/HP hybrid build. with that you always have the theoretical possibility of one-shotting enemy backline without being one-shot yourself. theoretical because you can go all in and definitely get at least 1 kill and 0-70% hp from nearby enemies. Successrate increases because going hybrid allows you to use at least 2 E and Q rotations. also way less pressure on landing all of your spells by the way. thats why this build requires a lot CDR, HP and AP. in most of these cases, weaker teammates are enough to finish the rest. with this mindset and strategy i was able to climb to master several years ago for the first (and last haha) time. zac was my most played champion (~200? soloQ games) in that season with (dont make me lie) about 60% WR if i remember correctly.
Wondering if you could do a patch notes overview? Specifically for jungle, jungle champs, and item changes? They’re nerfing ravenous hydra and I’m wondering if it’s still going to be an item you’d recommend to get?
@@GWOlukasr1 still, I like his jungle guides for each champion and would at least like his opinion. He is consistently carrying his team in his jungle videos and often has the opposing team ff around 20 minutes and he has 15+ kills
@@griffsoper oh for sure he is a really good player, but he does not really look at the patch notes to hard I feel. patch notes don't matter if you good at the game like he is hahaha. but he also doesn't really read his comments as well because I saw people saying that heartsteel in not nerfed in other videos and he still has not corrected himself.
I personally don't like Ravenous Hydra because it relies heavily on you not dying to keep your stacks on the item - similar to Meij stacks. And if you engage in a team fight, there's a good chance you'll end up dying unless you're super far ahead that you can 1v5 carry. If your opponents know what they're doing, they'll generally focus the person that build Meij/Rav stacks because they're usually worth a lot to kill and it punishes them hard when you kill them because they lose their stacks.
Ive been playing Zac for years and this was my first video to check this new season cause ive been off it for a year. youve said everything I know about zac and then some. Great update
that rakan mightve pinged the ward in the bush on botlane and then ping mid to inform everyone that hes roaming there, if u have everyone muted pings included u cant see them and miss this info
Radiant feels very underwhelming and the healing is very low. In my opinion, if you decide to go Radiant, you should go Staff of Flowing Water 2nd to drastically increase the amount of healing as well as giving quite a lot of damage. Without staff the healing on Radiant is just too low. I rush Demonic now as the clear speed on zac is so terrible that without the demonic you clear twice as slow as the other junglers. After that I build Evenshroud, literally because there is no other good mythic on zac and its quite cheap and has good stats. Sunfire is not worth it at all because the damage does not reflect on camps, maybe its a little better after the recent buff to Sunfire tho.
Its use on Zac is more so for the 20 ability haste after ult allowing you to use your w more frequently. The healing basically makes up for the cost of using my ws and then you get more blobs on the ground which will result in more healing.
@@Dhoulmegus The 20 ability haste will result in like maybe 3 extra blobs in a teamfight and the passive healing is so low like most of the time I got around 1k after 30 mins. Most importantly it makes zac really R reliant cus without R you basically have no item and I dont like that at all. Plus I dont think the 2-3 blobs and the little amount of healing from the passive are worth 500 more gold over Evenshroud. That gives me like 2.5k bonus damage on average (and I build it second) if the game goes long I get like 6k.
Thanks for the Zac video, as a main I always enjoy him getting the credit he deserves. Could you maybe consider making an ap Zac video again? As you said, its high risk but high reward. I use first strike and treasure hunter to snowball so hard the enemy botlane has no fun at all xD And even if they have multiple ways to hit you out of the air, just build banshees veil and they cant anymore :) I like to go Night harvester, hourglass and banshees if i need to play a bit morer save Thank you for the great content
Wondering if jungle changes allow someone like Kled to be able to jungle next season. His dives are sick. What you think? Though I guess with Hydra nerfs recently and pet aoe true dmg nerfs, might no longer be possible (if it even was at first).
Would Heartsteel continue to be meta for Zac solo lane? Thanks. I think Zac is a really strong champion and I’m looking to put in a good 50 games to test.
it's not hard to know what support players are thinking, huge streamers over-hyped the concept of roaming as a support because they can't look at the map and always die to a support roam, so the dominant culture incentivises support players to randomly roam, thinking they're OP and they just coinflip their bot lane or out-right lose it
How do you feel about the camp clearing lategame on Zac? I feel like other champs have a way easier time counterjungling late game while Zac is having such a hard time doing this. Do you think Zac’s W should scale with armor or max HP on jungle monsters/minions? Edit: What rank are you?
zac's late game utility makes up for a lot of early low damage clearing, so it's not really a problem. Atm you can clear blue-->red at about 3:10 if u double camp red raptors so its not bad for tempo
I loved your subtle Skarner roast. Can't wait for his rework! What would you like to see from his rework? I just hope they keep him a tanky jungler, cuz there's so few good pure tank junglers.
I don't know why people want skarner rework so much? I guess udyr rework was fine but I don't want to keep name the same and make him other champ. Like mordek, swain, akali, nunu, galio...
Remember kids, every video is a “how to jungle Viego” video. Also a Season 13 Poppy vid would be cool too
My only problem with Zac is that it's team reliant. So if your ADC or other lanes are dodo in DPS or behind and don't know how to DPS while you're CCing your opponents, you just end up dying because Zac's damage output is pretty low unless you go pure AP with Meij into Rabbadon, but that build is only good if you're ahead and never die.
Yeah he is way more team reliant now. Before preseason he was really good and could 1v9 games because of Sunfire being so good on him. Gave him so much damage you would literally one shot carries and now you don't have that insane damage cus rip sunfire so you are more of a utility support ish tank.
im a zac Main since season 6. i know what you mean and stix also was right with what he said about this champ in this video.
My itemization always was based on my teammates until i realized zac can oneshot their backline by going AP. In my opinion full AP is overdrive because you become a glasscanon very quickly and your E is very easy to flash since your ability to oneshot relies on landing it.
This is why i recommend getting CDR (boots + kindlegem) as early as possible.
by watching lanes while you jungle, you should learn to watch your own teammates. After just a few seconds, I can now tell from lasthitting, trading with the opponent (generally micro), whether my teammate is solid or not.
as soon as you have the first impression of your team, you decide on your items. Of course, you should also pay attention to the opponent's pick!
the first impression avoids your frustration in many cases if you e.g. initiate a fight (tank build) without following teammates. you will tank a lot, but wont do enough damage to solo kill the backline. Most of the time you wont survive.
with the first impression you can directly set the first or second item to AP/HP hybrid build.
with that you always have the theoretical possibility of one-shotting enemy backline without being one-shot yourself.
theoretical because you can go all in and definitely get at least 1 kill and 0-70% hp from nearby enemies.
Successrate increases because going hybrid allows you to use at least 2 E and Q rotations. also way less pressure on landing all of your spells by the way.
thats why this build requires a lot CDR, HP and AP.
in most of these cases, weaker teammates are enough to finish the rest.
with this mindset and strategy i was able to climb to master several years ago for the first (and last haha) time. zac was my most played champion (~200? soloQ games) in that season with (dont make me lie) about 60% WR if i remember correctly.
18:20 First time I’ve heard Stix Cuss!!!
18:18 rare SwearStix moment 😂
Wondering if you could do a patch notes overview? Specifically for jungle, jungle champs, and item changes? They’re nerfing ravenous hydra and I’m wondering if it’s still going to be an item you’d recommend to get?
seeing he still thinks heartsteel has been nerfed even if its not (only been nerfed in aram). he is really not the best for patch notes reading.
@@GWOlukasr1 still, I like his jungle guides for each champion and would at least like his opinion. He is consistently carrying his team in his jungle videos and often has the opposing team ff around 20 minutes and he has 15+ kills
@@griffsoper oh for sure he is a really good player, but he does not really look at the patch notes to hard I feel. patch notes don't matter if you good at the game like he is hahaha. but he also doesn't really read his comments as well because I saw people saying that heartsteel in not nerfed in other videos and he still has not corrected himself.
@@GWOlukasr1 oh well, it’s still worth a shot to see if he reads comments and makes a comment on it in a future video!
I personally don't like Ravenous Hydra because it relies heavily on you not dying to keep your stacks on the item - similar to Meij stacks. And if you engage in a team fight, there's a good chance you'll end up dying unless you're super far ahead that you can 1v5 carry. If your opponents know what they're doing, they'll generally focus the person that build Meij/Rav stacks because they're usually worth a lot to kill and it punishes them hard when you kill them because they lose their stacks.
Ive been playing Zac for years and this was my first video to check this new season cause ive been off it for a year. youve said everything I know about zac and then some. Great update
@22:18 *REMEMBER* its 10 years, Zac still dont got a suit. 🤵♂🍸🥷 Maybe it should be a Shinobi/Ninja suit. NinZac.
11:22 KingStix: "i don't have R though"
Literally had R* xd
14:40
The double oracle bug is still in the game, wow
Looks like It's a feature now I guess
Day 7 of asking for kled jungle
iT's always refreshing to watch kingstix everyday after a long day XD
Great video! Been thinking of giving Jungle a try since watching these videos. Was wondering if you would do a Graves Jungle video?
Bro it's visage not vistage
I needed this so much! Ty!
Which patch notes say heartsteel got nerfed?
I miss your jungle champ ranking - can you start doing these on UA-cam again please?
Thoughts on getting demonic first item instead? Feels like its a good play cause faster clears whole team fights are not common early
Great game, love Zac. Did I miss Heartsteel being nerfed though? I didn't see it in any patch notes.
it got nerfed in aram only. i think he did not read the notes well and missed it.
@@GWOlukasr1 Gotcha. Thought I was going crazy for a sec. Thanks for the clarification!
Sooo weird that rakan roams out while your there for the gank. Like "ooh butterfly" moment or something. Mid wasn't even gankable.
14:40 when he layed herald and he was clearing blue his jgl pets AoE attacks also damaged teh herald
Hey can u play Lee Sin Pre Season 13? Thaaanks!
Please do Rakan jungle, full AP makes him a great Gank machine
Again Heartsteel has only been nerfed in ARAM not in normal or ranked games. stop giving wrong information for the 4 video now
that rakan mightve pinged the ward in the bush on botlane and then ping mid to inform everyone that hes roaming there, if u have everyone muted pings included u cant see them and miss this info
Radiant feels very underwhelming and the healing is very low. In my opinion, if you decide to go Radiant, you should go Staff of Flowing Water 2nd to drastically increase the amount of healing as well as giving quite a lot of damage. Without staff the healing on Radiant is just too low. I rush Demonic now as the clear speed on zac is so terrible that without the demonic you clear twice as slow as the other junglers. After that I build Evenshroud, literally because there is no other good mythic on zac and its quite cheap and has good stats. Sunfire is not worth it at all because the damage does not reflect on camps, maybe its a little better after the recent buff to Sunfire tho.
Its use on Zac is more so for the 20 ability haste after ult allowing you to use your w more frequently. The healing basically makes up for the cost of using my ws and then you get more blobs on the ground which will result in more healing.
@@Dhoulmegus The 20 ability haste will result in like maybe 3 extra blobs in a teamfight and the passive healing is so low like most of the time I got around 1k after 30 mins. Most importantly it makes zac really R reliant cus without R you basically have no item and I dont like that at all. Plus I dont think the 2-3 blobs and the little amount of healing from the passive are worth 500 more gold over Evenshroud. That gives me like 2.5k bonus damage on average (and I build it second) if the game goes long I get like 6k.
Thanks for the Zac video, as a main I always enjoy him getting the credit he deserves. Could you maybe consider making an ap Zac video again? As you said, its high risk but high reward. I use first strike and treasure hunter to snowball so hard the enemy botlane has no fun at all xD
And even if they have multiple ways to hit you out of the air, just build banshees veil and they cant anymore :) I like to go Night harvester, hourglass and banshees if i need to play a bit morer save
Thank you for the great content
Fellow zac main night harvester enjoyer here. Can literally be the biggest bully on the map after one successful gank
@@ZaddySeeBot nice, I didnt know there were more of us
@@moritzkemme8450 I’ve tried rocketbelt but I swear that item hates me when I activate it. Somehow takes 3 button presses minimum to go
@@ZaddySeeBot XD okay well, then its kinda obvious what to go for
Hey can u do a rek sai video? It’s been so long since you play her
Respect to the ezreal guy
It's been a while since I played ezreal jungle :)
Wondering if jungle changes allow someone like Kled to be able to jungle next season. His dives are sick. What you think? Though I guess with Hydra nerfs recently and pet aoe true dmg nerfs, might no longer be possible (if it even was at first).
Would Heartsteel continue to be meta for Zac solo lane? Thanks. I think Zac is a really strong champion and I’m looking to put in a good 50 games to test.
Think JakSho is the way to go on Zac top/mid.
@@luukdewaal9648 thanks bro
hey KingStix your friend had died.
KingStix : down he goes.
Wtf yesterday I was like...I wish he'd do a zac carry guide hahaha
4:38 bro?
Is ezreal jungle a thing now?
some high elo players still push it, or at least were a few weeks ago, it's a super risky version of kindred jg
What happened to the KingStix special "if they ff pre 25 min mark I'll go ahead and do a part 2"?!
it's not hard to know what support players are thinking, huge streamers over-hyped the concept of roaming as a support because they can't look at the map and always die to a support roam, so the dominant culture incentivises support players to randomly roam, thinking they're OP and they just coinflip their bot lane or out-right lose it
But Heartsteel hasn't been nerfed at all...
it only got nerfed in aram, he did not read the patch notes well
Day 18 of asking for a full movement speed warwick gameplay with ghost smite
How do you feel about the camp clearing lategame on Zac? I feel like other champs have a way easier time counterjungling late game while Zac is having such a hard time doing this. Do you think Zac’s W should scale with armor or max HP on jungle monsters/minions?
Edit: What rank are you?
zac's late game utility makes up for a lot of early low damage clearing, so it's not really a problem. Atm you can clear blue-->red at about 3:10 if u double camp red raptors so its not bad for tempo
This match was a norms in silver btw. His main? Who knows… he doesn’t upload high elo content
Came early for the flying booger
Another belveth jungle next time?
Anyone else hate that he says Vistage?
that work with teamates with iq higher than 80
Day 4 of asking for pantheon top 🙏
He is the best champion in the game
I loved your subtle Skarner roast. Can't wait for his rework! What would you like to see from his rework? I just hope they keep him a tanky jungler, cuz there's so few good pure tank junglers.
I don't know why people want skarner rework so much? I guess udyr rework was fine but I don't want to keep name the same and make him other champ. Like mordek, swain, akali, nunu, galio...
@@ΔημήτρηςΒασιλάκης-ε8η his kit is outdated
@@ΔημήτρηςΒασιλάκης-ε8η his model is bad, and he's been forgotten for many years
Maokai vid next ????
day 1 asking for yuumi jg
Day 6 of asking your color settings
i do block zac jump alot i play yuumi i just use W and body block it.
Pole
first
is conq. zac any good? asking for a friend
Wtf is vistage man, read the damn item so annoying :D
They should take heartsteel out the game period lol
Why do you take so long to level your abilities? I kinda annoys me haha
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Bro is so toxic when HE messes up because he used to be challenger but wouldn't even be now days