ICM Messerschmitt Bf109E-4 Plastic Model Kit in 1/72 Scale - Unboxing Review
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- I recently purchased the ICM Messerschmitt Bf109E-4 (72134) 1/72 scale plastic model kit due to the interesting night fighter paint scheme that came included! I hope that this simpler paint scheme would allow a quicker than normal completion of the model.
I've not had much experience so far of the model kits from this manufacturer in Ukraine, & was surprised to discover that whilst this kit does feature some modern features, it is actually an older tooling than I first thought! So how does this kit hold up to today's standards?
Join me in this video as I take a look inside the box of the ICM Messerschmitt Bf109E-4 (72134) 1/72 scale plastic model kit of this well-known World War 2 fighter aircraft!
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One note that is good to keep in mind - this isn't actually a kit designed by ICM. This is the Tamiya 109E kit, with parts rearranged on the frames and no locating tabs, so the design is actually from the 90s.
I have this one. Thanks.
I,m understood
Why looks like tamiya 1/72 Bf109E.
Supposedly the Tamiya tooling was released in 2000, so if this is a copy of it, they did it shortly after the release from Tamiya. I would like to believe that they didn't copy it but there do seem to be quite a few similarities. This being said, differences I can see are that the cockpit assembly is somewhat different, being split into more parts on the ICM kit, the prop assemblies are different (no polycaps on the ICM version) and the Tamiya offering comes with either a bomb or drop tank option, which is missing from the ICM kit.
Whilst there are similarities (and also, there are some with the Airfix version which came later) I would hope that it was an original ICM design and the areas which seem common between the toolings are just a state of common design processes as the best way to create the product. I mean, after all, how many ways can different companies come up with the solution of creating the same model in the same scale?
Jolly good show Matt, if you're interested in collecting old/vintage models I'd highly recommend the Shuttleworth events, many a time have I seen some rare models there!
thanks for the info!
Nice review Matt, looks like a solid little bargain build - will look forward to seeing you build it!
I hope I get the chance soon, life has just been really busy!
@@ModelMinutes I know that feeling!
Hi Matt, when I had kits with no location pins or tabs I glued some plastic card on the inside this helps with the build and gives the kit a bit of reinforcement.
Thank you for the review.
Great tip!
For 'decal film' read 'varnish'. I work in the trade and produce artwork for decal sheets, some of which go to Cartograf for printing. The varnish is very important, as you noted, it is best kept tight to the edge of the printed item, gone are the days when you need a massive border of the stuff around each item - Eduard take note! The awkward ones are generally when you have peculiar shaped nose art. A figure with arms and legs all over the place for example where you need to have a 'web' of varnish across awkward gaps to stop the decal folding up on itself and sticking to itself. I have had that happen to me and is very frustrating. As a modeller myself, I have a good insight into what is required for each marking, erring on the side of tight is right wherever possible.
thanks so much for sharing this!
Built one already. Not a bad kit, some work around the engine cowling is required due to poor fitting, but it's nice overall
thanks for the info, i'll watch out for that
I bought one of these a few years ago because they are really cheap - think mine was £8 from Dave Coley's Emporium. It's not as good as the Airfix kit, and the Special Hobby kit is better still. Main problem is the soft, springy plastic, but it can be made to look OK. Mine became a paint mule and I keep wondering why I never finished it
Yes, I did notice the plastic was quite thin and springy
Have a couple icm 1/48 spitfires, which must date from a similar time frame. 1 had quite a bit of flash on, the other wasn't so bad. Look reasonable detail wise. Can't complain for the price. I think about £14 each. When built they will be used for air brush practice.
Yes, the prices are quite reasonable
Good kit, I have the airfix kit so I will look to build it as a night fighter.
Sounds great!
From what I can see on your video, the mould quality doesn't look great, I know it's fairly cheap but the Airfix one looks to me the better choice, posable flaps, engine detail if you like that sort of thing and it is very affordable, very little flash on the Airfix one is also a plus.
Yes, The Airfix version is somewhat better in many respects, but it will be interesting to build this one to see what it is like
Hi Matt.. great review :) My first clue it was an older ICM kit was the box design.. modern kits don't have the 'flappy bit', then inside the instructions were a lot more basic than modern ICM instructions.
I need to get some of their new stuff to do a proper comparison, I can’t say I have much experience of ICM at the moment
@@ModelMinutes their new kits are great quality, you'd love 'em :) Both Alex Mann and Gary Evans have reviewed them and are both making ICM's new Marauder. John Alec is currently making an ICM Ford Phaeton
@@julianmhall I think the Maurader is a bit large for my workbench at the moment - I may have to pick something smaller
I have build 2 of these but not this night scheme and have 1 in stash. I am happy with finished models,it requires a little work on them but at the end they look nice. And I never had any problem with decals,they go very nice.
Very nice!
Hi. The main issue with this kit is that ICM has forgotten to provide the sensor bulge that goes on the bottom of the rear fuselage, just after where the wings attach. You can see the bulge in the picture on the boxtop, but it isn’t shown on the instruction sheet or painting guide. The bulge can be scratchbuilt but its centre is a clear window where the equipment inside is visible. Other than that it looks like a nice kit and an interesting subject. 😊
Ah I see! I had to look it up and yes it would seem there is a small blister on the bottom of the tail (just forwards of the Luftwaffe cross) that seems to be missing . . I wonder if I have something similar in my spares box which would do as a facsimile
@@ModelMinutes I’m sure you’ll find something in the spares box. And there’s plenty reference material on the Internet. 👌🏻
I just started building this. I found it was a little on the irritating side for me. Had issues getting the fuselage halves together with the cockpit details installed. i had to ditch the pedals. Ofcourse i found there is no alignment pins for the halves either. That took some creativity to get them lined up. Ultimately i gave up on it. Maybe I will come back to it later.
Thanks for the info - I'll have to watch out for these problems
Cool review👍
Thanks! I'm looking forwards to giving this kit a go!
Is there any good model brands/company’s you recommend? Because at the moment I only buy airfix and they only have a few models in stock at a time so I want to look elsewhere for good models.
Airfix are a pretty safe choice, and there are some very good models from brands such as ICM, Revell, Academy and Tamiya etc - might be worth looking up the specific models to make sure you are getting a modern tooling though, as somtimes they "sneak" old toolings into modern boxes and they aren't always as good
@@ModelMinutes yeah I always look up my models but I just get worried about other brands just because I had a lot of bad luck with a rebel kit once and it was very terrible to build.
@@hellloadventures3797 An issue is the quality of a kit depends far more on when it was made, than who made it. At least in the case of the old model companies. A new(ish) kit sold under the Airfix brand could be from the 1960s.
Tamiya, Hasegawa and Eduard are pretty consistently good. But Scalemates and online reviews are there to help.
Brought an icm kit . It wasn't cheep for what it was had fit issues and was really let down .
Ah that is a shame :(
Hello Mr Minutes, good video, but if you made a t shirt that said time to prime, I would definitely buy, just something I was thinking about
Good call!
Great company one of my favourites thanks
:D
As I’ve "built" that kit there are some real bad fit issues. I’ve found that the cockpit tub is real difficult as there’s no locating tabs/slots you’ve gotta do it manually and joining the fuselages together was a real pain if you haven’t got the cockpit tub seated correctly.
Ah thanks for the info! I’ll keep an eye out for that
@@ModelMinutes no prob mate just real keep an eye out.
I'm building this model and the basic construction is very similar to Airfix but just be careful of the "very" fragile I had several tearing when applying to the model. Personally I feel the Airfix version is the better of the two kits.
I'll keep an eye for these issues!
Hello mr. Minit!it seems to be a nice fastdish for the mojo.a fastdish is allways good for your mojo.with best regards and sticky greetings from Brandenburg germany.yours truly.your modellmate.christian
Thanks! I do hope I can complete this as a Mojo Build soon :D
Good Review from this Kit but i dont like ICM Kits for me the Plastik its too Small i like more the Airfix or Eduard or AZM Me 109 ers in the 1/72 Scale greetings
thanks for sharing!
Hello Model Seconds
Hi!
Are you being ………..?
Bob
England
As someone who loves scale and scale detail. It REALLY boils my p*ss that decals for Nazi equipment doesn't come with swastika decals. Its so bloody annoying. It doesn't mean I support the rhetoric (far from it!) But it's just not accurate! P.C nonsense ruins another innocent hobby.
Some companies do include them in their kits, but I understand why some don't, and usually it is just a cost saving exercise - nothing about being PC. In some countries it is literally illegal to sell something with that symbol, so instead of making an "accurate" set of decals for one market and a "safe" set for another, the most economical decision is to just omit them.
If you do purchase the kit and want to make it more accurate there are aftermarket suppliers of these symbols
ICM print their own decals.
Thanks for the info
Still a good bargain
Second!
Nice!
Poor kit and poor review.
Poor review of a poor kit and poor review.
Мэтт, приветствую друг ! У меня все наборы Ме-109Е в 1/72 от этого производителя ! Там отличия только в декалях , а вот на ночном истребителе на бокс арте под фюзеляжем за кабиной пилота обтекатель чего то , а для чего он я не знаю , но в наборе его нет , надо будет его самому делать . Успехов в сборке !
Собранную модель не забудьте показать только ☝️😊
Yes, apparently there is a blister on the lower side for sensors of some kind that is missing. I’ll see what I can do about that