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Patrick Explains ALIEN: COVENANT (And Why It's Great)
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- Опубліковано 16 січ 2018
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I shouldn't have to say this, but to anyone angry that I... *GASP*...have a different opinion of this movie than you, a couple things to consider:
1. Art is subjective
2. The point of film criticism is to experience different views/interpretations, not to hear someone parrot your own opinion back at you
I wouldn't say that art is entirely subjective but more an interplay of subject and object, but yeah. I liked that critique even tho I didn't agree with everything. People should get a grip.
I like your enthusiasm, but I'll watch a fan edit for the second time
I disagree because you're coming at the movie from a 'film school kid' perspective that prioritizes the micro-elements of the work in a vacuum, but you make a lot of good points. I'd be stupid to deny that.
Patrick (H) Willems I like your two point comment reminder and I think you're spot on about Ridley Scott's motivations behind these films but there are two problems you've ignored when making your "defence".
*Firstly, just as the crew doing dumb shit was bad writing in Prometheus, the crew doing dumb shit in Covenant is ALSO bad writing.*
In particular, not wearing spacesuits is unforgivably stupid considering that this didn't prevent the original _Alien_ from working as a horror movie, which you even mention but then ignore!
However, this is just the most obvious example of sloppy writing. Another example is how Faris, the shuttle pilot demonstrates her coolness under pressure (by flying them safely through a horrendous storm to land expertly in a shallow lake) moments before she inexplicably falls to pieces because she discovers (over the radio) that a crew mate is sick.
Don't believe me? Watch it again.
Faris is already panicky when the sick crew mate is brought onboard, but when some of his blood splatters onto her face she becomes an emotional wreck. This is a character whom we'd expect to be made of sterner stuff! _Note: This all happens BEFORE any "orifice bursting" occurs!
Similarly, Oram's seemingly odd decision to peer curiously into the giant egg sack isn't the problem. Rather, it's his inexplicable trust of David after having just seen the android completely overlook and even defend, the slaughter of a crew mate (Rosenthal) by an alien protomorph! _Having just seen this why would he follow David anywhere, nevermind alone?_
*Secondly, there is nothing about A.I. in the title **_Alien:Covenant_** just as **_Prometheus_** was marketed as an **_Alien_** prequel when it clearly wasn't!*
In contrast, _Bladerunner_ (one of my all time favourite movies) was honest about its subject material, _but these prequels aren't._ Scott is no longer interested in telling stories about everyone's favourite Xenomorph, so marketing these films as Alien movies is disingenuous because he's selfishly using a well loved franchise to tell a completely different narrative!
This is what I say when someone tells me Tommy Wiseu’s ‘The Room’ is a bad movie
I'm glad you brought up the line where David gets the author of Ozymandias wrong, because as an English major, it tickled me pink and added so much meaning to his character that didn't need to be explained. The fact that he thought the poem was written by Byron was so telling.
See, for those who don't know, Byron was one of the leaders of the Romantic movement in literature, which was an era in art when people wanted to celebrate the intensity of feeling and the uniqueness of individual experience, to broadly simplify for time. Byron was a major forerunner of this movement and is remembered for being a wild child who lived fast and died young, but squeezed everything he could out of life. One of his fellow authors and lover, Lady Caroline Lamb, even described him as "mad, bad, and dangerous to know", a quote which I think serves to shed light on David's pride at thinking Byron wrote Ozymandias.
To me, David views Ozymandias Romantically, perceiving it as a celebration of destruction and a glorification of the destroyer. He, having wiped out the Engineers, quotes Ozymandias as a validation of what he sees was a great work of his, but completely misses the point that Shelley, the actual author of Ozymandias, wrote it as a condemnation of the self-glorification that was common among monarchs of the time and in ages past, pointing out that the erosion of time will destroy any monument one makes for oneself.
David thinks he is his own Byron, drunk on his creation. He is actually Ozymandias, doomed to be left a ruin by the ravages of time along with his perverse monument to his own self-aggrandisement. It's one line, but the characterisation is fucking beautiful.
this comment makes this video worth watching
You honour me. ^.^
great comment. Have you thought about making a few video essays of your own Tristan? I would watch that.
That's really kind of you to say, Brennon. I've thought about it, but I'm not sure if I have the charisma for it, nor the editing skills. :P Maybe one day I'll pluck up the courage.
@Adûnâi but ozymandias isn't real. Shelley made him up for the poem. The irony gets deeper.
I will grant you no other movie in 2017 had 2 Fassbenders kissing themselves.
I will grant him that NO OTHER MOVIE IN HISTORY has 2 Fassbenders kissing themselves
@@mandece putting the bender in fassbenders
“If your someone who hates James Franco you get to see him burn to death in this movie” that aged really well
When the alien shot out of the guys face in the first act my buddy leaned over to me in the theater and whispered “bless you”. I laughed for the rest of the movie.
I love the side story of you and your "parents" throughout the series, how they slowly learn more and more each episode
Yes! More extended parent-verse please.
@Adrijana Radosevic He's playing an exaggerated jerkass version of himself for laughs.
My chest is bursting at the anticipation of a new Patrick (H) Willems video!
Get well soon!
I'm glad someone else likes Alien Covenant but I think you may have given Prometheus a bit of a harsh rap and now we have to fight about it.
Way too harsh with Prometheus
Yeah Prometheus is a masterpiece, no jokes.
Yeah Prometheus does have problems but its still a decent film
My people yes I love both Prometheus and Alien Covenant! Just 👌🏼💯💯
I loved Prometheus too though. I always thought it was David's story. And his turn was fairly contextualized in Prometheus. The opening scene in Covenant is basically a summary of his arc in Prometheus. I loved watching his transformation and even more seeing him fully transformed in Covenant.
You liked the turn from subtlety to full on moustache twirling villain … covenant David is boring
@@SpecialOrder935 Yes nothing wrong with that kind of characterization. And it was enjoyable to watch him corrupt the other David. Both are great but where else would you take that David when he essentially became a full on mustache twirling villain at the end of Prometheus
@@Lockn3s5 I would’ve left him as a head and after what he did in Prometheus sowing his head back on was stupid as shit … but following the example of rest of the crew of these movies it’s just a regular decision
@@SpecialOrder935 Sorry it's been a while since I've seen these movies and this comment is 4 years old so I forgot he ended up as a head. You know that sounds pretty interesting if he would've stayed as just a head.
*We Need a Mr & Mrs Willems film*
yea they seem like they would be hilarious.......Patrick's dad reminds me of like an older Ethan Hawke hahaha
Hellz Yeah!
I am literally watching this for Mr and Mrs Willems reaction. I wish you could cut into their reactions more as you review the movie. In short, WE NEED MORE MR & MRS WILLEMS!
I agree! Your parents are bloody adorable. Is your mum from Ireland?
Patricks dad looks like The Fonz
I went on an Alien movie marathon and as I went though the series, each one felt less and less like it’s original. And then I came to Covenant and I was SO thrilled watching this one because it felt like it was coming full circle back to home. The horror and scares and violence - back to where it all started.
Alien 3 and 4 are basically non-canon for me, they're that bad.
I think a lot of people base their idea of the franchise on Aliens and many of the videogames and see Alien as the beginning of that franchise rather than the unique sci-fi gothic horror movie that it is. The only way to do something similar to Alien is by doing something different, cause it has to feel new like the original Alien was, instead of doing the same but bigger like Aliens. That's why Ridley avoided the xenomorph in Prometheus, he wanted to show things that were new and scary like the xenomorph was before becoming a pop culture icon
@@LarryHazardI love Prometheus. I've seen it so many times. I like the mystery which is a huge reason why I love Alien.
All i can say is "Thank You" you most likly changed some minds and i agree whole heartedly with your opinion
I liked this movie and now feel less alone doing so. Thank you for this.
jesus, i found you yesterday and you have become my favorite youtuber already. The way you explain and the kind of humor is absolutely great.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who actually liked this film!
Man, just watched Alien Covenant tonight after I saw the title of this video (but before I watched this video), and I couldn't agree with you more. I don't really get all the shit this movie was given.
This movie is awful.
I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. The literary references only uplift it. What a movie!
The second the credits rolled, my exact first reaction was 'Woooooow, that was an absurdly bleak ending for a Big Hollywood movie'
Covenant managed to do the seemingly improbable by being both messy & convoluted, while also being hollow & superficial. It piggybacks too much off of Prometheus because it's trying to address issues with that film. Making it useless as a standalone narrative and pretty much branding it as an appendices of sorts ,but lacking in any real clarity. Although it was a great looking film and had some interesting concepts, spectacle is only a part of the Dramatic dynamic. It was not an objectively great film.
Also, underdeveloped characters in a film with such a small cast (all of whom we are supposed to care about) is always going to be a major detriment to any narrative.
No such thing as an objectively great film. Films are subjective. I would agree that it's messy and convoluted as most Ridley Scott movies are, BUT it'd be very, very difficult to ever say that a movie of his can ever be hollow and superficial. This movie is the opposite of superficial and hollow. It oozes a soul. At least to me, anyway.
If you honestly think that movies can't be objectively good or bad, you're just another arseclown.
Todd Begay Continuity. Supply and Demand.
So watching idiot characters doing moronic things is viewing the movie through "tinted glasses". LOL.
His turn the dark side was properly motivated in Prometheus. Masterpiece.
Not only are these 'why it's great' videos consistently amazing, the ongoing story with your parents is a real treat! You also make me want to watch two movies I've completely ignored up until this point.
Alien Corvenant
Wish Covenant had nothing to do with Alien and started it's own all new sci fi horror franchise of a rogue android creating weird and new life.
It basically IS. The original Alien movie then becomes a side-story of what happened with a single xenomorph.
For all we know, the xenomorphs will only end up the first, failed experiment in a long series.
I really do wonder if the prequels would be better received if they were their own thing. Most people are disappointed because they have very certain expectations about what an Alien film should be. Personally I don't see any consistency between the old Alien films, so this new direction isn't jarring to me.
@Simon Farre Wooooooow there. Saying "Alien" is just "a scary monster film" is like saying that "Mad Max Fury Road" is just a "trucks movie", or that "Titanic" is just a "sinking boat movie". Using one element or prop of a genre movie to pretend it is inferior to movies that try to be more "highbrow" and have explicit themes is so cringey.
"Alien" has plenty of horror, cosmic and otherwise, and is masterful in the way it's constructed, it doesn't have to have huge contemplative pseudo-profound dialogues about mortality and creation and whatever to throw its themes in your face.
@Simon Farre OK, fair enough. I have no problem with the rehabilitation of Promotheus & Co, I'm just too thin-skinned for the original "Alien" criticism 😁
omg dude the last minute of this is genius!! also you're making me reconsider my initial distaste for Alien Covenant. When I saw it, it was the only time in my life where I was literally the only person in the theater at the Chelsea Cineopolis. I hope Ridley Scott finally connects Alien with Blade Runner
I have to admire how you can always put out an entire bottle and still speak in clear sentences.
One of the best endings I have seen.(I don't mean the movie)
It made me sub
I'm still waiting for you parents to rant about THEIR favourite films or books or sport or whatever!!!
I hate this movie, but i love your explanations for why it's great :D
YES. Finally someone recognizes that. The movie has its flaws - I don't like the protagonist and some of the plot choices, but man, THIS is how you revitalize an old franchise.
It's a Frankenstein movie fascinated by the perils of creation, and ends up being what no other prequel- or prequel-sequel - in Hollywood tried to be thus far (maybe only the new Planet of the Apes films were also successful on that) - visually familiar, but also thematically fresh. It's pretty effective at not only expanding the thoughtful mythology of Prometheus, but also bringing back the franchise's body-horror roots, resulting in a surprisingly entertaining and engaging film.
I really hope Fox doesn't give up on the sequel.
Interesting argument. Two things though. You can make an argument that it’s ok for the characters to act as they do because they don’t know what’s going on. But we do. The first movie gets away with a character putting his face over and egg because he didn’t know anymore than we did.
You are correct that this one isn’t about the aliens but the androids. But it still explains the xenomorph. And the xenomorph no only needs no explanation, an explanation inherently undermines it. This should just be the insane shit that’s out in space. You say Scott smuggled a mad scientist android movie under the Alien name. I say he sacrificed Alien to get financing for his mad scientist movie. And I’m not in favor of that trade off.
The idea that xenomorph had been „created” by some malfunction, prehistoric android to specifically target humans is as bad as one that Vader was a wish child, born of a virgin, impregnated by the dark side of the force itself.
How does your first claim make any sense at all? If the audience knows what and where the danger is then the characters have to act like they do too? As if every character after the first Alien HAS to know that eggs are bad and face huggers will plant eggs inside your chest? I hate this argument. You can't claim that a character would act a certain way because you know the risks and what would happen if said character were to act out those risks. Yes, these characters are scientists, but when an alien bursts out the back of a colonist then I don't think you'd be very level headed either. Everyone is different.
Second point. I don't know why people think that the origins of the Xenomorph brought to light in Covenant "undermine" the creature itself. The origin of the Xenomorph ultimately does not matter one bit in its actions in the previous movies. The Xenomorph will still be a scary, blood-thirsty, alien that will stop at nothing to kill humans. If anything this is a great origin to the Xenomorphs. It makes perfect sense why David wanted to create something, in his eyes, beautiful. Something that his creator, Weyland, would never encourage him to make. That along with his indifference towards him after the events of Prometheus, his motivations are clear cut on why he did what he did. Yeah Ridley may have jebaited us and not told us the origins of the engineers but this is a fine placement for it in my opinion.
Plus I can‘t agree on the statement, that it’s ok for the protagonists to act dumb because otherwise there would be no movie. Why is the horror genre doomed to have stupid characters? I think this is true only for one subgenre, namely the „oh no please don’t do that and turn around“ subgenre, which I honestly don’t really care for and most certainly don‘t feel the need to have it in the Alien franchise, that defined a more serious way of treating its main characters.
I get afraid of things, that could also threaten me in that situation. I want to relate to characters. Isn’t it infinitely more scary to get into bad situations DESPITE good judgement and having made the „right“ decisions?
Ripley was relatable, it worked. It does not work with those dumbnuts in the Alien prequels.
That second argument, THAT!
It's just so frustrating that the alien had to succumb to current Hollywood's "must explain all the back story" trend and basically swapped protagonists while keeping the title.
That ending to the video though was tops and your parents are awesome!
It's not about the spectator knowing the danger, it's about a character's lack of caution you can't relate to.
You don't get down on an unknown planet without helmets, even if you know the atmosphere is ok, because bacterias, viruses, etc. You don't trust an unknown android who's clearly hiding things to look into some weird egg.
The most basic thing anyone would have in mind would be "Shit, I'm on a foreign planet I know shit about, 5000000000 things could be potentially dangerous, I have to be cautious". It's that simple. And the scenario could find a thousands of other ways to get the movie going.
"YOUR OPINION IS BAD, AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!"
Bunny in the Box Pfft! You're clueless about what he's saying.
The guy is right....drunk....but right....
Bunny in the Box if your avatar a picture of the guy from Eraserhead?
Da Pumaface yes...and no...kinda.
Remainds me to " my god you are wrong "
Prometheus and Covenant are two of the best sci fi movies I’ve ever seen. Not much gets me to the theater now a days but I look forward to their release dates. Ridley Scott is a master storyteller filmmaker and the story here is so good. These two movies are made even better by Michael Fastbender whose performance is amazing. I can’t wait to find out what experiments David has done in his macabre flying laboratory.
While I don't think Covenant is as bad as Prometheus, I still don't think it's very good as a film overall. I understand some of what they were trying to accomplish but I don't feel it was executed very well. Maybe if I'd enjoyed the characters more, I could have given a shit about their fates. Instead, all I can focus on is the stupid things they do because I'm not empathizing with their situation. For example, I don't think it's weird that the captain looks into the facehugger because I personally know it's a bad thing. I think it's weird that he follows David into a dark, isolated space and trusts his word about the egg being safe when he just encountered one of his crew members murdered by an alien and saw David trying to makeout with the thing.
So even though you didn't change my mind, I'm giving you a like because you argued your point well and your parents are awesome.
Captain was suspicious of David, even called him Devil, then went along with him with no questions and did everything David said. Captain should have escorted David back to his companions and interrogated him with them.
Well I suposse it is posible for alien covenant to be the best alien film since 1986, I mean is not a big competition and I can see the gothic elements in the film and I enjoy parts of the movie, not everything, but it would be my third favourite film from the franchise.
Vicente Ortega Rubilar idk but I think Alien 3 (Assembly Cut) is far better than covenant
What about Arrival?
Patricks parents are my favorite people ever
This video is why I found your channel last year and its still my fav
This is the best Alien Covenant coverage I've seen, and the impressive outro - insta subscribed. For the love of Ridley himself - cheers!
The best part about this video is that there's no way he finished that bottle of Jameson and is still talking coherently.
THANK YOU!!! I feel like im the only one who defends this movie whenever people start trashing it. Its nice to know Im not totally alone.
Wholock Heneghan you are not alone. And good I loved the fastbenders fight
Wholock Heneghan and Im with you too. I freak'n loved Prometheus and Covenant!! I sure hope Awakening gets made and another follows thru to connect to Alien!!
I was feeling the same until I saw this video :D hello to all Ridley belivers !!
agreed. I love the movie.
These are really unique and funny reviews, and they really deserve more recognition than they get!
Cool perspective. Though I'm sure if Ridley Scott just announced he was creating a new body horror IP about an android with a God complex, it would got enough butts in seats. Why tack the Alien name onto it?
Sorry, I just can't get passed that the Xenomorph was created only 10 years before the first movie and it's basically manmade by proxy.
This is why personal cannon is great: if you don't like it, disregard it ^^
JayfroC
Thats what I've done with Star Wars. Disney Star Wars doesn't exist.
Not really. I read that in the novelization , David found Xenomorph eggs on the Engineer's planet and begin experimenting on them. Even in Prometheus, they had murals depicting Xenomorphs which must have been tens and thousands years old.
Your right..David didnt create anything...he re-created them using the Engineer blueprints and work they left behind including one single egg as explained in the novel...also in the DVD extra called Advent David explicitly states that the Engineers created a lamb and a wolf (humans and xenos) but that the Engineers tried to banish the wolf and now David intents to create his own version of the wolf.
and your also correct about the Mural...its atleast 2000 years old..Shaw carbon dates the dead engineer to be atleast dead for 2000 years...plus the pile of dead Engineer corpses had holes in their chests.
Love this perspective on the film! Nice work!
Completely agree with everything you said. The fact that a human created android created the xenomorphs is genius
Brilliant! Great job breaking down the story for those who have trouble looking past the surface.
The sequence from when they land through to the end of the grass sequence is just the most incredible sequence of building tension I might have ever seen.
Man, you're awesome. finally someone willing to look for everything the movie offers.
“It’s the best Alien Movie since 1986”- Patrick... that means almost nothing
Also yeah I only saw this movie once in theatres but I enjoyed it
People “hating” this movie is why we are stuck with comic book sheet. Ridley can’t make anymore of these sort of nihilistic sci-fi horror films
This is definitely the first time I disagree with you.
When the alien shows up, it feels emotionally weightless, and that shouldn't be the case. But that's just how it felt to me.
The fact the someone "created" the xenomorph, feels like a mistake to me.
again, this is just my opinion.
I don't think the film really implies that David is single-handedly responsible for the xenomorphs from the previous films. The murals in Prometheus already depicted facehuggers and it seems that it was a ritual of some sort for engineers to allow themselves to be 'hugged'. David just repeated the process and got his own version out of it. The black goo was a key ingredient, obviously.
lol so I guess what I should be saying is: The fact that someone had to "create" the look of the xenomorph as well as give it acid for blood, feels like a mistake to me.
Well, the worms in Prometheus already had acid blood. The xenomorph's new look (compared to the creature we see at the end of Prometheus as well as the one depicted in the murals) may just be the/a result of a human serving as a host instead of an engineer. The white creatures (neomorphs) from Covenant are another mutation as they came from a different kind of eggs that, I guess, were a result of the black goo being exposed on the planet. Though I personally think that Scott is just making stuff up as he goes. There was also another creature in Prometheus, which came from Shaw and which was a large tentacle monster (a big version of the facehugger?).
Is it just me or does his mom look like Sigourney Weaver
too right. i was so creeped out by this movie. the implications for humanity both viscerally and philosophically from david's actions on the ship at the end are truly terrifying more than anything i ever seen in a film
Didn't think it was possible but you actually did convince me to give it a second chance. And as a side note, the scenes with your parents in the barn look great. Hope to see a horror film from you in the future.
I was an adamant Alien Covenant hater. I might rewatch it myself after this. Maybe. It was a compelling argument nevertheless.
As a person who never saw the first two movies, Covenant was hilarious. All the characters were dumb and were just waiting to die. It felt like any other horror movie, but it was visually great.
SPOILER
The part where the chick closes the door on herself and then blows herself up was so funny I thought it was a three stooges sketch
Julien L. Maybe these kinds of movies are not your type?
Julien L. First two alien movies were great. One was a cool horror movie and the other was cool action.
I had to stifle my laugh in the theater at them slipping comically on the blood.
Love your channel Patrick. Couldnt disagree more with you on this particular movie but keep up the good work sir.
Love these video essays, big fan of this Channel now! I'm afraid I'm amongst the crowd that didn't love this movie. It's not the worst in the franchise and I do agree with most of what you said in the video regarding the character of David; the one element in these alien prequels that is genuinely fascinating and engaging to watch. And I do like the fact that it is weird and disturbing and bleak, in many ways more of a gothic horror movie in space than I've ever seen, carrying on the legacy of the first movie.
Saying that though, I think its telling that basically everything you said only had to do with David, the visuals, the violence, some of the early alien stuff, and nothing else. Basically half this movie is a fascinating, disturbing look at how an artificial intelligence looks upon the idea of creation and subjugation and interweaving the alien idea into that (which I really like) and the other half is a dull, shallow, generic slasher horror movie that lacks any likeable or engaging characters, no real tension or scares, just a sequence of brutal, violent kill sequences with alien creatures that don't have the menace or presence that they had before. Sure it looks and sounds great, it's well acted, it's atmospheric and the violence is entertaining to watch on it's own merits. But when you addressed the whole idiotic characters thing being a problem in the first films too, I just can't agree. Those characters felt a lot more pragmatic and intelligent and much more empathetic before and after shit hits the fan. Sure they made some mistakes out of fear or ignorance of the situation, as you say things that have to happen for there to be a movie at all, but in this movie I literally didn't care about anybody, with exception of Walter and David. There was no tension in any of the kills or scares because I never feared for anyone's safety; that wasn't an issue in the first two films, where the tension and dread kept building because you were attached to the people on screen and shared in their fear and the things they did for the most part made sense and drew you into their struggle for survival. Here not only are the characters not in the least bit interesting or likeable (despite the basic attempts to do so, which just feel artificial and forced), and not only do they repeatedly demonstrate that they have no idea what they're doing or even seem to care about any consequences to their actions, but annoyingly the aliens aren't that scary either; with the exception of the protoxenos, they had their moments and felt different enough, but the full xeno was way worse, it just shows up and runs around in full view killing everything in sight.
So yeah, the great android movie you described is cool and all, but it's only half of what this movie is in my opinion, and that other half was just annoying and tedious to sit through. The good stuff with David and Walter may've been worth it if there was less of the other stuff or if they'd just written that stuff better, and the movie does begin and end with David so it's definitely trying to focus on him and is much better when it does. But I feel like all the other generic slasher horror stuff was put in there to satisfy mainstream horror audiences that've come to expect that kind of thing from these movies which is a shame, because I think the first two alien movies elevated themselves above that, or at least executed those things much better with more coherance and attention to detail and character than this movie ever does.
Finally someone who can actually look at the movie instead of deciding from Prometheus to hate it.
Okay, this was hilarious and made me think -> great great video!
Best Alien movie since 1986 isn’t saying much
Best Alien movie since 79 then.
Does Patrick actually drink the entire bottle?
Because that's impressive. 😂
Wow. Thank you for the best explanation about why I love this movie and in such an entertaining format no less. Got yourself a new sub!
Alien 3 was awesome.... anyone agree? no? just me? okay...
It was! I don't know where all this hate comes from.
it's solid, an I enjoy it. and ends her story nicely with her recording from the end of the first film. (not saying there wasn't a better movie that could have been made)
I liked Alien 3. Even when I as a kid.
it was
It was pretty alright.
This is good commentary. I do have to ask, are we supposed to pretend as if the Alien movies franchise doesn't exist in that universe? In fact were there no films that took place in space or involved aliens whatsoever? Because all of the characters act as if they have never seen or heard of these ideas, yet if they lived on Earth they had to have had these ideas rattling in there brains because we have an obsession with alien life forms and space. That's why the criticism is so thick because we can't understand why anyone would look into an Alien egg, we have had movies express the idea to us a multiple amount of times.
Well the Alien movies _can't_ exist within their own universe unless they want to pull some Scream or Cabin in the Woods stuff. Films and other media like the Alien movies can exist in universe but that doesn't mean they're gonna be taken seriously. In fact, they pretty much can't be if a movie is going to happen. It's like in the Walking Dead where zombies were never a thing, so they're never called zombies and people have to figure out stuff about them. They don't, can't, and shouldn't know what we know unless they've encountered it before, like Ripley in Aliens, but they haven't.
Exactly. In fact evolution prunes out the animals dumb enough to stick their faces into potential danger. But, as we know, the writers of this movie don’t believe in evolution... they pretty much state it in the opening sequence.
Jon Mercano You don’t have to have specifically watched a movie like Alien to know not to stick your unprotected face into some foreign object, do you?
"David shows up looking like he stepped out of a Final Fantasy game."
Exactly my thoughts when I was in theaters!
I love the part where David is singing some song about Monte Carlo, and his image in the mirror is super distorted, symbolizing David’s madness
Was this whole video just an excuse to make your dad say "WTF"?
That line was his idea actually
I did not see that coming. I'm excited to see where the arc goes from here.
This video has a great fourth act.
ALIEN: COVENANT (2017) is one of the best science fiction films of last year. Finally, an intelligent being I can communicate with. It's a hybrid "slasher/greek tragedy" flick. David is Norman Bates in PSYCHO (1960) -- my analysis. Covenant crew are his guests. Simple thrills, and gets much deeper too. Peace! 📽☕
👏👏👏👏 Patrick.
Unlike most film audiences you truly appreciate and understand this film. Thank you.
Great video BTW 👍
I've never disagreed with you before , Which is fine. You still are one if not my favorite UA-camr.
Patrick, I love your "explains X (and why it's great)" series! The negative press surrounding Covenant kept me from seeing it when it was in theaters even though I enjoyed Prometheus. Luckily, I got to see it on a plane and I fully agree with your assessment. It's just good, old-fashioned monster horror fun!
I would highly recommend watching A:C, then immediately following it up with Prometheus. It really improves and gives context to Prometheus.
David is the best character in the franchise. Pure mayhem.
My god. You've convinced me. I am shocked! !
Check out extended Prometheus cut, you might like it. Kinda fixes the movie
Where can that be found?
Finally, someone else said it. Covenant is a great re-telling of Paradise Lost, too. Fantastic video. Great job!
P.s: Your parents are really lovely and charming!
Just discovered your channel. And I fuckin love it! Keep it up brother!
That Spider-Man reference at the very end
YES!!! THE WORLD HAS NEEDED THIS VIDEO!!! Also, that's quite an interesting theory that you have there!
I do appreciate how this movie was kind of like “The Island Of Doctor Moreau” in space
I swear I'm not lying when, I didn't care about this movie at all when I saw the trailer. I started watching THIS because I'm really enjoying the series and was curious about your thoughts. THEN, when it gets to the point where you said, "this is where the REAL movie starts..." I paused the video, rented it on Amazon Prime, and watched it. I just came back to finish this video after LOVING it. I cannot thank you enough for convincing me to see this movie. This hopeless bleakness in film is SO rare, and is the primary aspect of Horror that makes me love the genre. This movie was a triumph and I, too, could go for eight more. Thank you.
Changed my opinion on this movie, actually
Thank you! Someone who understands the great aspect of this movie. Bravo! I absolutely love David’s journey.
The opening of the barn door shot was really nice. I would have lingered a little longer before and after it.
BRAVO! This is very funny, an interesting approach to the subject matter and I like it.
that ending though!
I like your enthusiasm, but I'll watch a fan edit for the second time
Paradise version from JobWillins seems promising
this is the best video i’ve seen in my entire life god bless you, you kind good sir
COVENANT is a masterful sci fi movie. Full of deep and meaningful conversation and references that barely anybody picked up on! Did anybody realise that the place where David takes the Covenant crew is actually Ridley Scott's representation of "The Isle of dead" depicted in the five paintings by Arnold Böcklin? Does anybody know what it represents?
Not to mention the first sequence of the movie, where David gets created. The movie could have ended there and still be called the best and most meaningful sci fi movie of the last 15 years. It's just that it's too complex for most of people! Dialogues, visuals, everything in this movie is there to make you think!
The sequence where David teaches Walter to play the flute? When they talk about artistic creation? So much to talk about.
And maybe people that criticise Covenant even say that INTERSTELLAR is a great SCI FI movie !
You drink too much Pat.
I love your parents XD
Years from now when the alien films are held at the the top of the pile (deserved) this video will be looked back on as gospel
I’m with you man!!! David is awesome!!! Please sir, some more?!?
Covenant isn’t as bad as Prometheus was, but it’s just okay. It tries too hard to please both the Prometheus and Alien crowds, causing it to fall symptom to the franchise’s identity crisis. Also, it wasn’t scary.
It wasn't scary? True, but none of the Alien movies are scary.
Covenant wanted to be scary though, that's the point. Aliens and Prometheus didn't. Also, Alien is scary.
No, none of the Alien movies are scary. At least not to me anyway. Sure, they try, but they always fail with me. Very few movies scare me. I like Alien, Aliens, Prometheus, and Covenant for reasons that have NOTHING to do with being scary.
Okay, fair enough. It's our opinions.
Well, forgetting the entire Alien franchise for a moment, and forgetting Prometheus too... I don’t feel Covenant even stands up on its own as a credible movie. Without the Alien franchise veneer, this would be a “straight to Netflix” movie.
Loved it; I've seen this film 7 times.
This was a masterpiece brotha! Subbed and liked :)
David went "evil" in Prometheus with "no motivation"?? Watch it again my man!
YESS!! Finally, I knew I wasn't alone, I loved Alien Covenant too. You know what is a good advice to watch a movie, go watch it with no expectations, or try to keep them as low as you can, because that way, when the movie pulls a fast one and changes the course of the plot away from what you expected, you can recalibrate your expectations and watch the movie as it is presented to you, not what you hoped it to be.
Still haven’t seen a review as to why Prometheus was as bad as it was accepted. I understand some of the critiques of it but I still feel it was more enjoyable than Covenant and I did like Covenant as well.
Even as stand alone films Prometheus and Covenant together is one story apart from the alien series and that’s still I how watch them and their characters and I think they fit into the original storyline as well.
Atari lazy writing where the characters who are supposed to be experts act like high school students at best with their reactions and thoughts. Geologisr with a map and drones get's lost, biologist touches a brand new alien organism....I can go on. The movie only exists because the characters were written like mentally deficient 4th graders.
I like Prometheus better than Covenant as well. I liked seeing more Fassbender in Covenant but that's basically the only way I enjoy it more. I certainly think Prometheus is a better looking film. Both movies have dumb characters, but Covenant felt like a dumber film on itself.
To me the biomechanical design of the Xenomorph hints at the greatest missed opportunity of these movies.
In Prometheus we see the weird proto-alien thing and it looks very organic. We already know that the creature that emerges from its host bears some of its traits. I was really, truly hoping that Ridley was going to go for David getting impregnated via his own experimentation with the Embryo, and being the true father (and mother) to the first form of the Xenomorph that we're familiar with. From that point on every creature that emerges from one of those eggs is part biological, part android - we get the terror of nature perverted by technology that's gone beyond our grasp (the theme of most films with AI and androids) to become something nightmareish and utterly alien; despite the fact that it's origins lay with us.
Right on, man, right on.
And the bit at the end with your parents and barn was awesome.