As a home user, I wanna know my costs up front. I've been running IP cams for more than 10 years, it would be a fair sum if I had to pay out an annual cost for those. Two points of view on security, either it doesn't matter just forward ports and connect to it over the web or setup vlans on pfsense using OpenVPN to connect to your home network. I'm running 4-6 cams right now, over 10 years that could cost me perhaps £5k, not many people wanna pay that ! Once you have your cams in place they aren't moving unless they fail, mine have been up 10 years, while I need to have Windows 7 to configure the actual camera, I can use my QNAP to record and view them on my phone.
Again, a great video, I love the collabs! I can fully understand the licensing model for nowadays surveillance systems on our NAS-ses. And from what I understand so far, Synology is okay handling that. QNAP on the other hand I have found quite upsetting; with their, back then QTS v5, they immediately dropped support (in July 2021) for their older Surveillance Station and enforced their new (yearly?) licensing QVR Pro. They did offer a "free" 3 years license for those "older" users. But, to me, it is also noticeable, the newer NAS (since 2021, according to their own statements) models not only dropped support for the older system, it appears the number of included camera's (channels) also dropped? Anyways, again I can understand the licensing-model but if you look into what they are limiting for features in the various licensing-models (Basic, Smart, multisite etc) I do get the impression they are looking at t.ts trying to suck all the milk out. I do believe if they make the pricing a bit more attractive, it would also be obtainable for those on a thighter budget...
I can definitely see why some hobbyists might be upset with any sort of licensing fee, but as a commercial dairy farm and creamery, we just accept it and think of it as being part of the camera purchase. What we would really dislike would be a recurring license fee (i.e., subscription), but Synology's perpetual/transferable model is perfectly fine with us.
@nickdiba it is until you pay for Redhat and all the support required. I went with Pfsense Pro for the support and features. My hobby is playing video games, I work on computers for a living. I hate having to work on mine at home. I just need them to work! Eat , sleep, etc. is for home. IMO.
Funny, but I think he specifically meant in the surveillance camera realm. He is probably correct on that front, as I've never looked into cameras so I can't contradict him.
Oh my gosh! What an epic collab! We need more of these
More coming!
As a home user, I wanna know my costs up front. I've been running IP cams for more than 10 years, it would be a fair sum if I had to pay out an annual cost for those. Two points of view on security, either it doesn't matter just forward ports and connect to it over the web or setup vlans on pfsense using OpenVPN to connect to your home network. I'm running 4-6 cams right now, over 10 years that could cost me perhaps £5k, not many people wanna pay that ! Once you have your cams in place they aren't moving unless they fail, mine have been up 10 years, while I need to have Windows 7 to configure the actual camera, I can use my QNAP to record and view them on my phone.
Long time coming, very glad the colab happened 👍👍👍
Two legends 😊
Again, a great video, I love the collabs!
I can fully understand the licensing model for nowadays surveillance systems on our NAS-ses. And from what I understand so far, Synology is okay handling that.
QNAP on the other hand I have found quite upsetting; with their, back then QTS v5, they immediately dropped support (in July 2021) for their older Surveillance Station and enforced their new (yearly?) licensing QVR Pro. They did offer a "free" 3 years license for those "older" users.
But, to me, it is also noticeable, the newer NAS (since 2021, according to their own statements) models not only dropped support for the older system, it appears the number of included camera's (channels) also dropped?
Anyways, again I can understand the licensing-model but if you look into what they are limiting for features in the various licensing-models (Basic, Smart, multisite etc) I do get the impression they are looking at t.ts trying to suck all the milk out.
I do believe if they make the pricing a bit more attractive, it would also be obtainable for those on a thighter budget...
Thanks for bringing in a second point of view. This is a great way forward for the channel
I can definitely see why some hobbyists might be upset with any sort of licensing fee, but as a commercial dairy farm and creamery, we just accept it and think of it as being part of the camera purchase. What we would really dislike would be a recurring license fee (i.e., subscription), but Synology's perpetual/transferable model is perfectly fine with us.
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Yeah, open source software doesn't get past the hobby project. In fact, Linux is a fun hobby project
@nickdiba it is until you pay for Redhat and all the support required. I went with Pfsense Pro for the support and features. My hobby is playing video games, I work on computers for a living. I hate having to work on mine at home. I just need them to work! Eat , sleep, etc. is for home. IMO.
Funny, but I think he specifically meant in the surveillance camera realm. He is probably correct on that front, as I've never looked into cameras so I can't contradict him.
You’re being sarcastic about Linux, right?
Great T-shirt @LAWRENCESYSTEMS 😁