There are NO Reclaimers in Halo | ft. KammyShep
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- In this episode: We discuss the muddy and confusing lore surrounding the Reclaimers, exactly what a Reclaimer is and whether all of Humanity or only some select humans are Reclaimers. Ft. @Kammyshep
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The *real* reclaimers were the friends we made along the way.
And then they died too.
The real Reclaimers were inside us all along. ~~Some of us~~
Real
Warg warg warg, raaagh.
and tea bagged several times
There are no reclaimers, only food. Halo Is canonically a food fight
Source: Flood
i think the "elites finding reclaimer, humans who can operate forerunner technology" is more a side sentence as to why humans are reclaimers because we can operate forerunner technology as a baseline. the elites might dislike that fact though and hold onto a delusion of not all of us being gifted that way.
Yeah it seems like a sentence to give players of a spin off game some context. As the SOLE piece of evidence it's far too ambiguous.
The content machine gotta march on tho and it was a nice listen.
And yet, both Johnson and Miranda Keyes were selected and captured to activate the Halo. What are the odds? Them, of all people, not being torn appart by Brutes, both reclaimers! Hanging around together, too.
True, I do wonder if humans were allow to activate forerunner technology then why did Arbiter was able to turn off the quarantine zone without trouble despite being well not a human?
@@WyattDucar Wasn't Miranda and Johnson ahead of Arbiter? Is it possible that they had used the same console that Arbiter did, and since humans were there recently, it was (for the lack of a better term) jailbroken?
Maybe it's 50% reclaimers and 50% non-reclaimers. It seems reasonable to me that these two were specific reclaimers
@@WyattDucar It seems the covenant doesnt need humans all the time to utilize forerunner technology. I'd figure the most significant of their technologies need reclaimers. But then, you'd think the quarantine wall should absolutely be locked to anyone but humans or forerunners.
@@ainlLeek I think Miranda and her marines went through different entry ways than the arbiter. Given that they never deactivated the wall, they never touched the console.
I refuse to believe that my spartan died on infinity, he's built different.
Fireteam Crimson on top baby
i fully believe that mine did, he was kinda built stupid, assembled inacurately, constructed uncomonly even
@@BodeWinsGames97 temu spartan
Tbf, the Covenant haven't exactly been the best translators when i comes to forerunner tech
A great example of them mistranslating Forerunner technology comes from this line in Contact Harvest written by Joseph Staten where Mendicant Bias tells the future Prophets what the Forerunner relics they detected on Harvest were “For eons I have watched. Listened to you misinterpret. This is not reclamation. This is reclaimer. And those it represents are my creators.". This revelation that we were Forerunners who were “left behind” would lead to the Human Covenant War to cover up the fact that our existence invalidated the Covenant’s claim to be the Forerunners’ successors, and disproved their belief that all would ascend to godhood in the Great Journey.
Installation00, I love you buddy, but I'm never accepting this as canon
Me neither
I get the feeling it was never meant to be accepted as canon, merely thought provoking
Yeah I love 00 but it feels like this is a stretch; Humanity are Reclaimers
In my opinion, halo lore peaked at halo 2. I prefer to imagine the story as ending how the cut story boards would have. Everything after halo 2 only muddled and/or destroyed the lore
@@Justlarm Agreed. I still like halo 3 a ton but Truth and the gravemind don’t make any sense in their motives in that game.
i think all of mankind got the reclaimer forerunner activation genes. extra gene songs were just added on top for extra compatible specimens.
If not all humans, it must be at least a significant portion of humanity.
We have yet to see a single human not be a reclaimer other than ackerson in the tv show, so I’d say it’s all humans.
Early on it was only some then eventually was changed to all of humanity.
I love this but I have to reference Halo Epitah. The Mantle is a cruel unjust test. No one is a reclaimer as their is no mantle to inherit.
It’s basically “The Iron Throne” of Halo. A meaningless thing who’s metaphorical meaning has caused so much death.
I do kinda think that some Precursors genuinely believed in the Mantle. They were all individuals, maybe some sided with the Primordial, and others were benevolent as they always seemed.
Or as passive-aggressively benevolent as possible.
Maybe some of those nicer ones even actually did get corrupted and the Primordial just masterminded their chaos, I dunnae
@@ryan_1099The Primordial is a Gravemind too though, just an older type. It's impossible to say whether he is just an earlier less corrupt version of the Flood or if he truly is a Precursor as they were.
Hang on, there's a metaphor here. Still haven't read Epitaph, but I can imagine the planning meeting being "Put all of our frustration in here that we cannot make a proper Halo game to save our lives."
I've always subscribed to the belief that the gravemind was playing the long game to test humanities, worthiness of the mantle. As the precursors originally intended humanity to be in the position of the forerunners.
Another reason Halo is being sent into the abyss of potentially good games going to the wayside,too many smart people claiming to know what halo is,within the lore there exists the definitive answer,the halo series and those that support it are rewriting the narrative.
...?
@@angelcarmonarojas5240 in other words, 343 canon + random misunderstandings from fans are making the fandom worse.
in the original canon, all humans would be reclaimers by virtue of humans and forerunners being the same thing. much more clean and simple than what we have in current 343 canon.
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx but all humans are still reclaimers and humans are still forerunners, as the Forerunners are Humans who were evolved by the Precursors on a different planet.
Something isn’t necessarily better just because it’s ancient.
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx What the hell are you talking about? Humans in general never stopped being reclaimers, where did you get the opposite?
@@jakespacepiratee3740 but that is massively more cumbersome and confusing as an explanation. I mean, yeah it "works" but it is not a very elegant resolution to all the confusion going around. It was very easy before, when it was just forerunner = humans
Was good meeting you at HCS London fella!!
Maybe it's an oni psyop that not everyone is a reclaimer, since that much individual power in the hearts of anyone the unsc claims is seen as a low-key threat lmao
Frank O'Connor was the one to make the Terminals in Halo 3 then lead 343i, so his vision was literally different than Bungie's at large.
Bruh
I honestly don't even think that terminal fully supports the idea forerunner are separate. She says "It's inhabitants" but that could be just describing all species on the planet as she says they were indexed, but we know humanity were already indexed by now according to other lore we later got by 343 and if humans fought the forerunners there was no need to go to this planet to index them, they likely already had plenty of samples.
She does say that "they're special" but that doesn't mean any particular species as all species are special to her. She's a librarian who's whole job is indexing and cataloging life. She could just be excentuating how much she values all life.
This! They never say 'human' or anything close to that in those terminals. I always assumed she was talking about the other creatures that could have been on Earth at the time. The terminals also reference things like the garden of Eden and seem to hint at this peaceful place being a potential starting place/home for their future generations after the purge that is activating the rings.
This. Those terminals are so vaguely written that it could elude to anything. Given the descriptions of these "special" beings I thought they had abilities that Humans did not have, specifically that they cause life to grow in abundance. I also assumed that planet at the end of Halo 3 Legendary Easter egg was this world prominently talked about in the terminals and these new beings would be the new antagonists, mad that we used the rings to purge life as that seemed to be their specialty.
When I played halo 3 with a friend when it launched we thought that the humans in halo were a combination of forerunner and a primate naive to earth. They spliced their genes with a primate species that would later evolve to be modern humanity. Hence humans where essentially the "children" of the forerunners and thus the inheritors.
@@adrianoippolito1999 That was the original cut ending to Halo 2. I would argue however with moving the Ark outside the Galaxy that the initial idea changed. It makes sense if there is no way to save your species to have some machine forcefully re-evolve your race after everyone is dead, but since they can save individuals on the Ark there is no reason to waste time with such a plan.
@@Phillibetrus Though that brings up the question as to what happened to all the Forerunners if they could just hang out on the ark or onyx if they could save themselves. There is also an aspect of halo now that really annoys me, how do we account for all our primate relatives and fossils of Neanderthals, cro magons, ect if apparently Humans were a hyper advanced race that the forerunners de-evolved and left on earth? Are Humans originally even from earth in halo? I feel like what i originally though when I played halo 3 resolved this issue. With our proto human ancestors being from earth, and the forerunners added their DNA to these proto humans, brought them temporarily to the Ark with all other life on earth (Noahs ark style) set off the halo rings, Had an automated process bringing earth life back to earth, thus resulting in modern humanity. Heck in real life humans are the only primate that has a chin, maybe in the halo universe that's originally a trait possesed by the forerunners that was added to us when they spliced our primate ancestors. I didn't even think the forerunners looked like us exactly, that we could only speculate that they were humanoid creatures that we were currently a pale imitation of, but had the potential to reach their greatness once more. Sorry for rambeling
According to books series: ancient humans (who lived at same era than Forerunners) were the selected specie to own The Mantle of Responsibility, but the Forerunner stoled for them. Humans started a war reclaming what was his, that's why Forerunners called "Reclaimers".
The librarian supported the ancient humans and fought with her husband to save them from the Halos' blast. The Didact accepted on the condition that his evolution be reverted to a more primitive stage. The librarian accepted the condition, but she hid the secrets of the reclaim in the human genome, which would one day awaken to take over the Mantle of Responsibility. Hence all humans are Reclaimers, but they are not yet ready. This evolutionary process can be accelerated (the Librarian did it to the Master Chief in Halo 4) to start the Reclamation early.
I'm not even going to lie that's the dumbest shit ever imo
You're forgetting that 343 have retconned their own lore several times which means the lore is pretty much a cluster fuck rn and it's why for me, everything after Halo 3 is pretty much fan fiction
MEDDLERS>>>>>>>>>>>>>”RECLAIMERS”
I feel like that Spartan Ops line is moreso an explanation of what a Reclaimer is for people new to the series, since that was one of Microsoft’s biggest goals for H4.
Personally I like to think that all humans are Reclaimers, it's just that the forerunner alterations are more pronounced in some than others, which makes the technology more accessible to them.
Also the one flaw in your theory that "the Players are Reclaimers" is that we also play as the Arbiter in Halo 2, other Elites in Halo 3 Co-op, and custom Elites in Multiplayer from Halo 2 onwards.
And as those characters, we were able to interact with forerunner tech like control panels for doors and lifts etc
@@amdkillaplays I mean so were the Elites who took down the second Tower on the Ark, and presumably many other Covenant forces throughout the series. The Heretics on the Threshold Gas Mine; the many sealed rooms throughout installation 04, 05, & 00; and you can't forget the huge ass draw bridge, gondolas, & water elevators on Delta Halo. Hell the core of High Charity was a huge ass Forerunner Dreadnought that Truth flew to earth. Clearly not everything Forerunner is locked to being a reclaimer, and we know that no other race in the Covenant are considered Reclaimers or else the Prophets wouldn't have needed Keys & Johnson in Halo 2 & 3.
I totally forgot about that and that is a very good point. It makes me wonder if there are tiers to Forerunner tech, which is not impossible to imagine. I.e., an elevator, a door, or a ramp is irrelevant most of the time and low tier. The keys to a massive super weapon are top importance and thus only reclaimers can activate them.
@@shadowguy321 it is interesting because the Covenant seemingly had no problem using Dreadnought, accessing security systems, or even unlocking the Flood seals on 04 & 05... but I don't think we ever see them access a Cartographer, the Arbiter essentially needed to crawl through the service tunnels to get into the Library, and I'm pretty sure the Covenant couldn't get into the Control Room (or the hallways leading to the Control Room) on Installation 04 until after Cortana pissed off Guilty Spark.
@@DeamonChocobo Halo 2 showed that Arbiter took a far more variant route to Delta Halo's cartographer and index.
Anders and Johnson had a far easier time of this in many moments of that level.
Pretty simple concept:
Bungie Universe: All Humans are Reclaimers because Humans are Forerunners.
343 Industries Universe: Only specific Humans are Reclaimers who have the chosen genesongs the Librarian put in Humanity's genepool to be passed down.
The collab we needed!
My two favorite Halo lore Creators, Mr 00 and KammyShep .Very cool to see a collab.
Before watching this I would like to say: Contact harvest -> Covenant luminary shows entire planet full of reclamation artifacts (the population) -> Ergo, Reclaimers = Humanity
The biggest factor creating the confusion was Frank O'Connor's writing: the H3 Terminals and H4. Joe Staten makes things clear in Contact Harvest.
The Librarian left a calling card in the Human genome for Reclamers. It seems like that card may influence their decisions in life. It may be that those who are Reclaimers have a predisposition to volunteer for Spartan augmentations. It may also be that unknowingly Dr. Halsey was carrying the reclaimer genome and passed it to Miranda Keyes.
Johnson’s Orion augmentation didn’t seem as debilitating as the lore suggests it maybe that his Reclaimer genome “corrected” the failures of Project Orion.
What about Marvin Mobito wasn't he called a reclaimer by Guilty spark and what about Johnson or ellen anders and their examples of using forerunner tech?
They are reclaimers for being human, but they do not have the responsibility to control much of the technology.
@@angelcarmonarojas5240So what's the point of calling them reclaimers if they don't reclaim?
@@UnintelligibleYT The reclamation was made thanks to characters like the librarian with the aim of humanity having a position similar if not equal to the forerunners, this for obvious reasons many characters do not like this, but it does not prevent humanity from taking advantage the gifts of the forerunners.
I feel like all humans are reclaimers. That’s always the impression we’ve been given, outside of goofy spartan ops missions. Every human we’ve ever seen can interact with and use forerunner technology.
I feel like both is true to a point. In the Forerunner books they point out how the Forerunners have classes like builder class, warrior class, and so on. I realize that I have no proof of this at all. This is just my opinion on this. But there might be different Reclaimers for different things. Like the Elites are looking for the builder class of Reclaimers, and Master Chief may be part of the warrior class of Reclaimers. I don't know if this is true or even makes sense to anyone else, but this makes the most sense to me.
Your reference to what is seen on screen as being superseding lore is *chef's kiss.* This falls in line with other things, like Star Wars lore for instance, and I think it is a good baseline to establish what is the solid, unshakable foundation of the lore in general.
Since the 4runners are humans as Bungie intended, all of humanity is a reclaimer
Ooh that meta hypothesis is a good one. Anyone feel that? Those were chills.
In the logic of being the reclaimer, neuralphysics can actually explain this in a sense. We're the equivalent of a consciousness like the Gravemind, able to see across time and space, witness and influence events in our favour, and control multiple entities across different times
Wasn't the whole reason the Human-Covenant War happened the fact that Forerunner Reliquaries on board Covenant ships showed the reclaimer symbol for every human on an observed planet which the Prophets then launched the war to cover up?
Don’t forget that Guilty Spark 343 claimed that Sgt Marvin Mobuto was a reclaimer
Personal preferences aside, I don't see that there's much difference between the two definitions of Reclaimers. The Librarian planted gene songs within humanity at the infancy of the species. As the Chief's gene song is immediately recognized by Guilty Spark, we can assume that, throughout the generations, the songs replicated without degrading. The likely result would be that a significant (though minority) amount of the human population would be Reclaimers.
Before landing on the first Halo ring, these gene songs might have appeared to scientists to be of no more significance than any other commonplace genetic mutation (like albinism or dwarfism). By the time we learned of the importance of the mutation, mankind had already been severely culled by a long inter-species rivalry followed by a devastating intergalactic war.
I suspect that (though she might not have been aware of it) the physical and psychological markers that Halsey recognized in her S2 selections were due to the Forerunner gene somgs. Perhaps, that same gene song within her own DNA contributes to her superior intelligence. Likewise, perhaps it is the gene song within Anderson that made him a suitable candidate for the S1 program.
In the original lore, there was no galaxy spanning human civilisation that had a war with the other galaxy spanning alien Forerunner civilisation, leaving behind no evidence of their technology on Earth aside from the portal to the Ark. I mean, let's face it, the humanity are Forerunners history requires some suspension of disbelief by itself. But giving all your technology to your former enemy, then wiping yourself out, instead of giving it to some random species, like the Grunts, or Elites, or the Engineers supposedly created by them? That's insane.
All humans are reclaimers, but few, are Inheritor.
This could explain how we are still able to interact with Forerunner tech while playing as The Arbiter in Halo 2 (accessing lift controls on the mining facility above Threshold, the pillars and security overrides in the Sentinel wall etc)
Its an interesting theory that we are the reclaimers, kinda falls apart though when you remeber johnson and keys are also both reclaimers
A theory but a good one
I’m convinced the are two different Lores. Bungie’s Lore and 343’s Lore. That is all.
I want to know how human suit compare to Forerunner suits, did Ancient humans have a similar technology, how far are current humans suits to theirs?
Humanity was actually slightly more advanced than the Forerunners but not in every aspect.
@@markricheard1870 Awesome!
@@markricheard1870I read that at one point Humanity (with the help of the ancient San Shayum) created weapons so powerful that not even the Forerunners could make an effective countermeasure against.
Much love, brother ❤
Well we know to an extent the Reclaimer thing matters. The Harbinger literally has its symbol on her Helmet and back. And the new Halo Encyclopaedia said she was a part of the “Endless Ruling Class” meaning creatures who wear Reclaimer-decorated Armor were leading the entire Endless.
After listening to everything the Harbinger said, Ive come to 2 conclusions: 1. The Forerunners lied. Humanity were never Reclaimers, the Forerunners chose them because they were Genetic Kin and could be controlled, unlike the Xalanyn. The Primordial said Humanity “was to be tested” for the Mantle, not that they had been outright chosen.
Humanity is the Forerunners Reclaimers, the Endless is the Precursors Reclaimers.
2. The Endless are literal Reincarnated Precursors, which would naturally be stronger than the Flood. Basically Precursors who gained a new form without being Corrupted by the Floods hatred.
The primordial is just chilling simsifieying his new avatar while working the destruction shift at flood hq the rest of the precursors are out there also simsifieying there new avatars for a whole new universe and galaxy.
I believe all Humans are Reclaimers. Examples include Johnson, Miranda, Scientist girl from halo wars (forgot her name), and I'm pretty sure that one human the banished captured to open the harbingers capsule thing. All these people have no specialties about them.
However, then you have 343 actively retconning this with things like the TV show. So idk it's a whole cluster f*** at this point.
Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle, all humans can interact with forerunner technology, but only those with an added element within the gene song can interact with certain "secure" systems
I believe there are specific human individuals who are reclaimers. However, at the same time, there has never been a human who could not interact with forerunner technology. At least to my knowledge.
I imagine there are tiers of reclaimer.
Any human can be used to activate forerunner tech because best of my knowledge, we have never seen it fail to work for a human before without an external reason like power loss or something. But the Chief and some others might have extra of that forerunner DNA lying around so they don't even know what they are doing and it happens.
Like any human can push a button and the button will activate. But Master Chief walks up and just instinctively knows exactly what button to press.
Genetic security clearance. I suppose you wouldn't want just anyone reactivating and opening Flood research facilities
Sgt Johnson could be a Reclaimer. The flood couldn't convert him.
That was due to his augmentations from the Orion Project. The augmentations made him far harder to infect, but not impossible.
Head canon here, all humans have the ability to use forerunner tech in its base function, but only reclaimers can utilise forerunner tec effectively. Closest comparison i cam think of is a smart phone, everyone can pick up and turn on a smart phone, and while they can't unlock it, they can still take pictures and make emergency calls. The reclaimer in this analogy, can unlock the phone with biometrics and fully utilise the phone
What about Doctor Anders from HW? She is not ever a playable character but we see her manipulating forerunner tech that rightfully should be locked out to all but Reclaimers.
One question that has always puzzled me. Did Bungee or 343 ever intend Dr. Halsey to have connections to Ancient Humans? Given that Dr. Halsey played a prominent part in Halo, her character would seem obvious for this.
Under Bungie Halsey was just the Woman who made Spartans. 343 was going to have Halsey be a villain for Halo 5 by starting the Reclamation, but this was scrapped.
I'm not a Reclaimer, I'm.... The Wallclimber, The Wormkiller! The only G13 who's managed to live this long!
Why not both? Consider the quote in favour of all humans being reclaimed, it said "dormant, but never gone", what if at this current moment in time, only some humans have had their "genesong" gene activated, or however that works, and that would mean that humanity as a whole one day would all be reclaimers, but not yet at the date of the current story?
Around 5:50 you look like Dr. Halsey herself just broke into your house in the middle of the night, drunk out of her mind and raving about quantum physics
I had this same notion playing through the games, especially when Bungie was making them. Even Destiny also coming from Bungie hints at a soul beyond the world of the game.
This so reminds me of the Ancients, Asgard, and Humans of Stargate. Did the ForeRunners do as the Acients did, introduce thier genetics into humans? Sadly the Asgard had cloned themselves into Extinction!
What an amazing video, I do have a question if humans were allow to activate forerunner technology then why did Arbiter was able to turn off the quarantine zone without trouble despite being well not a human?
The Covenant has some, very primitive, very difficult means of interacting with Forerunner tech, especially the less complex stuff.
All humans have the potential to become reclaimers but not all humans are reclaimers by default is what I'm assuming.
This takes into account that the librarian's essence is dormant in some and not in others
This video went DEEP, and I absolutely love that. Proper good job, my friend
Master chief is the iso didact.
That would mean the Arbiter, N'tho 'Sraom, Usze 'Taham, and any other non-human we play as are reclaimers?
Humans = Forerunners
Bungie Lore > 343 Lore
Didn’t the entire war start because millions of forerunner glyphs lit up on the luminary and it turned out that those were the humans on Harvest?
Shhhhh, you're expecting him to know how to read!
I chalk it all up to writing inconsistencies. The writers have changed over the years and therefore their ideas or interpretations of what certain things are is modified with each writer.
I just wish Halo would come full circle and admit that John is 343 Chakkas genetic clone, and he is the chosen one of all time jk lol
So you could say the writer of these stories are the forerunners handing down the gene song in the form of the books down to the reclaimers
I can appreciate the legwork but I can't bring myself to see 343i's work as canon Halo, game or otherwise. It would be easier to digest by considering Bungie's and 343i's canons as distinct separate universes of their own to their respective works, not even branching timelines given the severity of retcons made.
Supposedly the other big reason for the change of the Forerunners from being a previous version of humanity. Is because it was a little too much like the plot of the Ancients from Stargate SG1 who were also a version of pre-Earth humanity. But 343 didn't want to totally ditched the pre-Halo effect ancient human astronaut concept. So just changed into what we see now.
Reclaimers are humans, not “humans who have been chosen by forerunners”. I don’t care how many times they try to push this idea of a ‘chosen one’ on us, I will simply not accept that.
They're both, I don't see that being impossible
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 I meant all humans are reclaimers. There’s very little evidence of this not being the case.
@@zackwerth77
Well... Harvest had a population of 3 million... but when the Luminary of the _Minor Transgression_ scanned Harvest, it only turned up "several thousand" glyphs of Reclamation (i.e Reclaimer).
Yeah, yeah, whatever
Here here
To me, it seems all the evidence presented indicates that Reclaimer is more of a ROLE, that is exclusively made available to humans.
Just like we can have multiple people that *can* read a map, but not everyone goes and reads them.
So I still would hold to Reclaimer(s) generally being a term for humans, but specifically referring to those who would interact with Forerunner tech.
The in-game statement we have from H4 is coming from a team of scientists that are very clearly shown to be applying a LOT of guesswork with their assessments on the roles and functionality of Forerunner tech. So it is likely from their understanding (with limited perspective) that only some select humans can interact with Forerunner tech.
Maybe the real reclaimers are the friends we made along the way
Didn't a sentinel on Ghost of Onyx called Ash a reclaimer but then called him a subspecies/ aboriginal.
One interesting thought that came to mind during the video is that is it the gens of the Spartans that make them reclaimers or is it the augmentations in the genetic level that makes them become reclaimers, I.E. by going trough Spartan augmentations can that make one it to a sort of artificial reclaimer if one wasn’t already? Also I think a video on all known reclaimers in the games and books would be an interesting watch
I thought something similar, that the spartans were basically humanity stepping closer to becoming true forerunner again, Spark even recognizes MJOLNIR armor as a low grade combat skin.
Think we're looking too far as Miranda and Johnson both used the tech in the series. Johnson was a failed spartan augment and Miranda wasn't one at all. I think it's just way more likely all humans are. That quote from Halo 4 could just be a gaff as they were looking for reclaimers.
@@Auzzymandias Not exactly. In Halo 5, Warden Eternal refers to Master Chief and Blue Team as “Warrior-Servants” while he refers to Fireteam Osiris as merely “Spartans” this is because the Spartan-2’s are closer to the Forerunner standard of soldiers than Spartan-4’s. Spartan-4’s may be more similar to Ancient Human Soldiers since there an armor set in H5 that looks very similar to Ancient Human Armor.
@jakespacepiratee3740 my speculation was on the setting before the 343 lore was made.
@@Auzzymandias Guilty Spark said Chief is a child of his makers, not literally his makers.
Perhaps the reclaimed gene is something that is dormant and only certain humans manage to activate it through some manner of trauma or experience.
*Shaka! His eyes open!!*
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Great vid, Al. I love this type of content.
But wait, because I have it fresh in memory, I read Devine wind, and that perfectly explains why Roland would say that, veta mentions that ONI is still not sure if all humans or only some can interact with forerunner tech, to the point that the target of the ferrets is any human in the keepers. So why would Roland know for sure during the second requiem campaign.
While I like the meta analysis and I thought about it before, I don't think that's it.
Man, I didn't think that was the direction you were headed for, but I like it! Meta analysis seems to fit with the Halo universe. Personally, my theory was that Primordials were behind the choosing of Reclaimers. Since they create life for the sole perpose of consuming them and inheriting their knowledge and experience, and they were going to choose humanity for their next choice as stewards of the galaxy. It makes sence to me that they would arrange to have humans take over the more advanced technology to hasten the process. Plus, I know Primordial had enough foresight to force the Forerunners to implement that plan without them being fully aware it was exactly what it wanted. Oh, just as a side note, the Spartan 3's were still picked by the same parameters as the Spartan 2's, Colonel Ackerson decided to be more lax with the restrictions to allow more candidates to be chosen since there was a need for larger numbers for deployments
I think some of the story ark from Divine Wind would struggle to be viable, were all humans not reclaimers. They could have got lucky with who was there but at least two forerunner ancilla make no suggestion they better check first
This is a question of whether or not a “canon story” exists at all. For instance, didn’t the devs admit that Johnson hugging the Elite at the end of Halo 2 was a joke and it canon? So if the game itself can have gags or you can do events slightly out of order, but there is some canon story that is historical in-universe and remembered by the characters, then we can’t literally be the reclaimers by inhabiting the characters.
I like the, all humans are reclaimers theory personally, its just what i always thought growing up with halo, cant change it now but it is cool to see othee theories!
I kind of go with halo show for how dr halsey figured the genetic from forerunner genetic pieces but there are some people more choosen to be reclaimers then other.
This all raises a question for me: would ancient humans be recognised as Reclaimers purely because they're humans, or is the Librarian's genesong strictly required? If the UNSC stumbled across the ancient human equivalent of a shield world, and woke the survivors, how would those humans react to everything?
"Yeeting yourself off the map at the close of the game."
I thought I only did that nonsense. That one specifically. 🥴🤣
The quote that solidifies that only some humans are reclaimers is from the Librarian in Halo 4.
“Reclaimer, when I indexed mankind for repopulation, I hid seeds from the Didact. Seeds which would lead to an eventuality. Your physical evolution. Your combat skin. Even your ancilla, Cortana. You are the culmination of a thousand lifetimes of planning."
People that are born with special skills of strength, intelligence, leadership, etc. all planned by the Librarian to help lead humanity forward. Everyone we know who is a reclaimer has a significant role in the Halo universe. It wouldn’t make sense for all humans to be Reclaimers cause all the Covenant would’ve have had to do was to just kidnap any human.
Also, bad actors having access to Forerunner technology - not good!
I’d argue that the librarian in halo 4 is an unreliable narrator, but even so, where does she say only some humans are forerunners?
Makes sense, but none of that says that only some people are Reclaimers. Just that the Forerunners planned the significant humans and not the normal ones.
Ur forgetting that the covenant didn’t know the humans were forerunners. The only ones that knew was the arbiter and the prophets
@@zackwerth77 She doesn’t directly, but when she says that she planted seeds I personally translate that as only select individuals.
There seems to be a lot of the studios trying to follow the plot of stargate and the ancients when creating halo.
No reclaimers? yeah sadly 343 poor story direction made sure of that
There was another reference to reclaimers in Spartan Ops during one of the Infinity levels over the PA speakers but I don't remember what it was.
My thoughts:
Perhaps it is ALL of humanity. Everyone inherited a Gene Song from the Forerunners which allows them to interact with Forerunner technology.
What makes Spartans stand out is, perhaps, that the process of Spartan augmentation is similar enough to Forerunner Mutation that it awakens something deep within them, pushing them one step closer to the title of The Reclaimer, of which all of humanity has the latent potential.
I'd like to think that Gene Songs were created from all Forerunners, and implanted into all Humans. What makes the likes of John and Halsey special is that their Gene Songs happen to be that of the Didact and the Librarian - two particularly powerful geases.
As for other Spartans, I'm sure many of them inherited the geas of Warrior Servants, activated upon augmentation.
I love the segment at 18:30 beautiful
I remember hearing that the halo 3 terminals were made by 343i in their early days and that Bungie didn't like them (or made by people who would go on to make 343i lore).
I belive that's the reason why Halo 3's lore is a bit confusing, the terminals and the rest of Halo 3 are conflicting with each other, because different teams with different takes on the lore were working on them.
to clarify Bungie signed the release contract from Microsoft prior to finishing Halo 3. Around that time (possibly even before the papers were signed) Microsoft offered a guarantied job to any Bungie employee who wanted to stick with Halo. Very few people took that initial offer. One who did was around this time (near the end of H3 development) was added to the writing team for the terminals. That individual went on to be named creative director when 343i was founded shortly after H3s release.
I think it is fair to say that the change was made under Bungie but by a guy who was on paper set to leave them to lead Halo after they gave it up. More like done under their noses rather then under their direction.
In the TV series The basically stated that the DNA to make super soldiers was found on another planet and that Halsey use that type of DNA strand to find others that are humans just like that DNA strand watch Kane from the forerunners because it was also a forerunners installation
All humanss are reclaimers. Johnson and Miranda were able to activate the Halos. To my understanding gene songs are the things that is somewhat rare
My brain started to hurt partway through the whole combat simulation vs reality explanation lol.
I personally think if they do an actual remake they might change some stuff about if the humans are actually forerunners or they are different from them. I personally think this part needs to be redone because it’s so confusing that the war was stated by the covenant to hide the lie that humans were forerunners but yet bungie change it in the terminals and 343 have just the wagon and decided to change it completely 😂😂
When the Librarian talked to John, right. Did she say she implanted a gene marker into the human race? I kinda got the idea it's like having green eyes and blonde hair. Most humans have eyes and hair but not all are green eyes and blonde hair.
What if Lasky doesn't know what he's talking about? What if Jul doesn't know what he's talking about? They are both going off of bits they've translated from Forerunner glyphs. On the other hand, the source in Point of Light not only is more recent, but is said by something Forerunner in origin.
The aurthors of the extended lore breaking their backs to try and keep halo what made halo
BRB, gonna go get the reclaimer icon tatted on one of my calves