Creeptanium: “Here’s my evidence as to why the Grumpyre might be prey.” BBB: Actually the Monster World doesn’t have a food chai- Creeptanium: *DID I STUTTER*
What if they made the monsters sing so they don’t have to make them fight in their universe? They might have a food chain as-well and don’t actually sing
@@barrelotl5748 BBB implied there was no food chain by mentioning that almost all the food they eat comes from the bakery, and they’re able to “absorb nutrition” from supposed junk food.
i'm just imagining a nature documentary about grumpyres... *The wild grumpyre spots a tasty meal, it uses synesthesia to look unassuming and then... it pounces. CUE BLURRY REDNESS*
supporting the predator idea (and proving a prey point wrong) is the fact it looks angry in the song. Its possible it derived joy from the song, or tricked other monsters into trusting it and the output for joy is an angry face. it disproves the prey point by showing a different emotion had the outcome. its possible that the calm face it has the rest of the time is it actually being malicious, as stated in the predator segment. I think that it is indeed, a predator.
Really have to say that I love the idea of this series! Also just as an idea/recommendation, when Supernaturals are covered, I think the anatomy of them should be more artificial in some way? Wubbox and some Wublins like Tympa are obvious, but more organic-looking monsters like Maulch or Fleechwurm probably should be handled less like natural occurring organisms, and more like automatons and things like that, since all of them were created by another monster, rather than naturally occurring.
Wow these videos are actually really amazing. At the beginning i couldn’t ever understand how the grumpier would be prey, but the scientific explanation in the video really justifies it!
In my opinion, I think epic grumpyre will most likely not be a more extreme version of grumpyre, as I think bbb has mostly moved on from “we’ll change the saturation then add horns and another set of arms” and generally has more creative rares and epics now, take epic gobbleygourd for instance, I would’ve never expected a peacock design. It will probably be a different kind of bat or based off of the fire haven critters, and I really like that bbb is steering away from these, in my opinion, lazy designs(cough cough rare stogg cough rare glowl cough cough).
I love these series. I even started thinking about biology in my monster class. It probably won't happen, but it would be interesting to see something about titans, especially Necrull.
Hear me out. In my 2,5 braincells there are only two options. 1) Necrull is dead and it is real skull, so there's no reason for holes in it to exist (unless I don't know something), and they are very big, because islands are much bigger than in the game, so that probably means that there was something that big, that made these holes, and it is scary. 2) it can be sort of exoskeleton and holes are for breathing or something like that. That means that Necrull needed to protect itself from something, so there probably are really big things that hunt titans.
Oh sorry, I thought you were making a mistake and saying that you were thinking about monsters in your biology class. I actually do know what a monster class is, but your comment makes it seem like you weren’t talking about that. I could’ve used context clues to reason that you were talking about monster classes and not making a mistake.
I'm curious to see how you handle Frondley. Will you put the brain behind the eye or mouth? I'm guessing eye, as the digestive system needs to be accessible from the esophagus.
When I saw the Grumpyre’s “darkness cloud” and you started going on about ink sac, I thought it could simply make the cloud more dense(or at least make itself harder to see through the gaseous ink) to blend in with the darkness to either escape or ambush
Your evidence for making it prey would actually make it a secondary predator. Vampire bats, which, as you said, Grumpyre is based on, drinks the blood from other animals, but it is still a prey.
This is quite interesting and I like your theories. I think it's more interesting about epic grumpyre and how it's bio says the grumpyre is sensitive to bright lights and has super fast regeneration. It would be cool if you went back to previous monsters and theorized based of new forms that didn't exist at the time.
Creeptanium: the epic variet will most likely be a different type of bat or maybe even based off of another monster, hopefully. Msm: MOOOOOOOORRRBIUUUUUUUSSSS
It's super interesting to go into the anatomy of monsters, it gives us a better idea of how they work and even get more ideas for fanmade rares :O Amazing work as always creeptanium!!! Also for #MSMDraw Xyster meets the bone island monsters
Theory: Grumphyres are oportunist species, who both hunt and scavange for plants, explaining why his eyes move instead of being locked on a single place
Okay, so epic grumpyre got released for Summersong, so here's my biology of it. As stated in the bio, the epic grumpyre doesn't have the same type of skin as it's common and rare counterparts. From this, I'm getting that the common and are variant have a type of skin chemical that protects them from sunlight, hencing the "shadow" theme, whilst the epic variant doesn't. Because of this, it must cause the skin to swell up. So, the epic grumpyre must have developed a technique that regenerates its skin when it bursts. As stated in the bio, it does the job, but it's like a curse. Next, it's large ears. I'm guessing that this is both a defense/hunting mechanism and a location system. Because it can't create a smoke screen like it's counterparts, it must have adapted large ears to sense predators/prey. Not only that, but I'm guessing that because of its weird skin, it sometimes has to resort to somewhere dark. Probably caves. So it must have _probably_ adapted large ears for cave echolocation. Now onto the wings. Because of its slightly transparent wings, that means it's either already has nanopillar wings, or it has less transparent nanopillars. Finally, the bio states that it likes to enjoy a late night snack. From this, I'm getting that it's an omnivore rater than a hemovore. So I'm guessing it like to steal food, causing it to become hunted. Also, like monsters such as pompom, congle and cybop, this monster is intelligent enough to know human language. And that's all! Feel free to say what you think about this, maybe give some criticism.
Vampire bats don't really kill the creatures that they drink blood from, so only the other monsters want to kill grumpire (probably not knowing it's just part of its diet)
It seemed like you think that they have to be either predator or prey, but really it seems like it’s just in between, using all these traits of confusion to get closer to its prey, or further from its predator
Hmmm... next will be wublins and wubboxes. I have few questions. If choose wublin, will you do structure of the statue, and if wubbox, normal rares and epics do in one section or not.
The wublins are especially interesting because since they were made only to be friends without natural "mosnter evolution" there will be very little to compare specific anatomy parts to existing animals, like the random branches on screemu or the gross berries on mawlch
About three years ago I had done something like this with the reedling and had concluded it had unidirectional through breathing (something that no terrestrial earth creatures have, but a few fish have something similar with their gills). Basically each reed is connected to one lung and two muscle groups for pumping air, as air is moved from the throat through the body, it passes through the many lungs, with CO2 being immediately sorted out using membranes, expelling it through the reeds. It also has a lot of hearts, one for each pair of lungs, and it’s veins aren’t all interconnected. This results in extremely efficient respiration, and highly oxygenated blood. I would really love to see a video for your take on reedling anatomy though, I love your note of grumpyres potentially being a prey species!
Here's a quick theory: the intro music for My singing monsters is grumpyre saying "SHOOMBAGOLA BOM BOM!" Why does everybody think it's Mammot saying that?
The weird thing in MSM... Monsters are perfectly fine on both land (Most islands) and water. (Water Island). They can even vocalize with no muffle, suggesting that most monster's don't need oxygen. This also could just be a lore inconsistency. Also, for #MSM Draw, baby monsters looking out the window, and seeing what they think i s Yool, but in reality, it's just a Gobblygoard falling so fast it's catching fire.
it was probably to make grumpyre easier to animate, but the holes are in the same spots on every wing, suggesting that they were put there. no accidents here! what I'm saying is that maybe grumpyres do have those nanopillars. that would explain the designs.
The Grumpyre has identical "holes" on opposite wings, something leading to the nanostructure theory, as that would be extreamly unlikly to actually happen
Since the epic grumpyre has been released for a while now I think the epic grumpyre is white to fit into cold island better and the bubbling skin is escaping hot gas to cook its food
Why am I suddenly imagining the next art should be some monsters (Mammots, Pompoms, Tweedles, furcorns, ect) chasing a grumpire whith pitchforks and torches? (Like what people did to vampires)
This is probably a stupid theory, but what if Grumpyre was smack in the middle of it's food web, and it's just managed to evolve in the most ingenious ways for both offense and defense
The predator/prey existing in the msm world idea is something i never though of
werdos.
@Rick & roll they eat relics
@Rick & roll in the cold island werdo sale it showed tawkerr and maggpi eating the notes in the relics
@Rick & roll they actually eat turkey and stuff from the bakery
@@cosmopoiesecriandomundos7446 vegan meat
Creeptanium: “Here’s my evidence as to why the Grumpyre might be prey.”
BBB: Actually the Monster World doesn’t have a food chai-
Creeptanium: *DID I STUTTER*
No he didn’t
What if they made the monsters sing so they don’t have to make them fight in their universe?
They might have a food chain as-well and don’t actually sing
@@barrelotl5748 BBB implied there was no food chain by mentioning that almost all the food they eat comes from the bakery, and they’re able to “absorb nutrition” from supposed junk food.
Hart
Ikr
i'm just imagining a nature documentary about grumpyres...
*The wild grumpyre spots a tasty meal, it uses synesthesia to look unassuming and then... it pounces.
CUE BLURRY REDNESS*
T H E D O C U E M E N T E R S A R E A F T E R M E
kinda late but honestly
nature documentaries about msm monsters would be an interesting concept
supporting the predator idea (and proving a prey point wrong) is the fact it looks angry in the song. Its possible it derived joy from the song, or tricked other monsters into trusting it and the output for joy is an angry face. it disproves the prey point by showing a different emotion had the outcome. its possible that the calm face it has the rest of the time is it actually being malicious, as stated in the predator segment. I think that it is indeed, a predator.
I absolutely love these videos, i'm so curious to see what the biology of fiddlement would look like.
Same! Fiddlement is my favorite monster.
probably something to do with bioluminescence and the glass could be a silicon-like growth to protect its internal organs
Yeah and what about potbelly
@@Hello_guys22355 plant and bones I'm guessing?
Imagine how simple the skeletal Bone Monsters would be
I like the idea of this menacing demon like monster being a prey animal
Really have to say that I love the idea of this series!
Also just as an idea/recommendation, when Supernaturals are covered, I think the anatomy of them should be more artificial in some way? Wubbox and some Wublins like Tympa are obvious, but more organic-looking monsters like Maulch or Fleechwurm probably should be handled less like natural occurring organisms, and more like automatons and things like that, since all of them were created by another monster, rather than naturally occurring.
OMFG LOGAN PE-☠️
Haven’t watched it yet but I already know this is going to be good.
It is
I love it when epic grumpyre says "it's grumpin time" and grumps all over the place
The fact this is now canon in the Epic makes this hilarious...
BBB : **Wanting to make wacky wonderful creatures that make music**
Creeptanium's Monster Biology : *Lol I don't think so*
Wiblix does not care about BBB when it comes to biology
Wow these videos are actually really amazing. At the beginning i couldn’t ever understand how the grumpier would be prey, but the scientific explanation in the video really justifies it!
In my opinion, I think epic grumpyre will most likely not be a more extreme version of grumpyre, as I think bbb has mostly moved on from “we’ll change the saturation then add horns and another set of arms” and generally has more creative rares and epics now, take epic gobbleygourd for instance, I would’ve never expected a peacock design. It will probably be a different kind of bat or based off of the fire haven critters, and I really like that bbb is steering away from these, in my opinion, lazy designs(cough cough rare stogg cough rare glowl cough cough).
rare glowl is lazy but that color scheme is beautiful
@@spoopycateatingpopcorn couldnt agree more, especially the wings
Yea
Also rare spunge and rare pummel
@@AlanRobinsonArun epic mammot, rare mammot,
I love these series. I even started thinking about biology in my monster class. It probably won't happen, but it would be interesting to see something about titans, especially Necrull.
Hear me out. In my 2,5 braincells there are only two options.
1) Necrull is dead and it is real skull, so there's no reason for holes in it to exist (unless I don't know something), and they are very big, because islands are much bigger than in the game, so that probably means that there was something that big, that made these holes, and it is scary.
2) it can be sort of exoskeleton and holes are for breathing or something like that. That means that Necrull needed to protect itself from something, so there probably are really big things that hunt titans.
Thinking about biology in your monster class? What’s a monster class?😂
@@katherineblix8060 A group of singing monsters, like naturals, magicals, upbeats, apocaliptics, etc.
Oh sorry, I thought you were making a mistake and saying that you were thinking about monsters in your biology class. I actually do know what a monster class is, but your comment makes it seem like you weren’t talking about that. I could’ve used context clues to reason that you were talking about monster classes and not making a mistake.
@@хлеб-г5п ????? Never heard of that.
"long story short, it is a..um..fart smokescreen."
great series i'm excited for the next episode
Your art is actually amazing... the monsters look almost exactly like the official art style, if not even more realistic
I'm curious to see how you handle Frondley. Will you put the brain behind the eye or mouth? I'm guessing eye, as the digestive system needs to be accessible from the esophagus.
Who knows, the magical monsters might even have orgins outside their bodies!
Creeptanium be teachin us more than how the school teaches us
Hey I’m from 2023 just to tell your videos are great have a blessed day
There are not a lot of holes in each wing, so it can still fly, but not very high. It is only able to hover a bit off of the ground as show in game.
Love this series so far
Woah holy crud! I got a heart from my favorite UA-camr!!!
That's a weird looking wx
@@sai2nay8261 couldn’t decide if I wanted him or Josef from Machinarium as my pfp
Ack!!! I love this a lot! I’m very interested to see more :00
When I saw the Grumpyre’s “darkness cloud” and you started going on about ink sac, I thought it could simply make the cloud more dense(or at least make itself harder to see through the gaseous ink) to blend in with the darkness to either escape or ambush
I just thought this was a normal video. First I found out that I made my suggestion into a meme video’s title and now this! Wow!
i like how eerily similar the second one is to the official epic grumpyre
I am really into biology, and seeing this is really cool!
Extreme epic grumpyre: WHISPERING DEATH
HTTYD reference
the only biology i like
I love Monster Biology! I am curious to see the Biology of Bowgart in the future
Your evidence for making it prey would actually make it a secondary predator. Vampire bats, which, as you said, Grumpyre is based on, drinks the blood from other animals, but it is still a prey.
I just realized you used the in game wheel spinning sound. Very clever.
I searched up Biology and even though I wasn’t even expecting msm I somehow still got it
This is quite interesting and I like your theories. I think it's more interesting about epic grumpyre and how it's bio says the grumpyre is sensitive to bright lights and has super fast regeneration. It would be cool if you went back to previous monsters and theorized based of new forms that didn't exist at the time.
I love the predictions he gave for epic grumpyre and we just got a morbius reference
Remember when grumpyre said in grumpius “it’s grumpin’ time” and he grumped everywhere?
Looks like next episode is going to be a wublin, things are going to get interesting, very interesting
Creeptanium: the epic variet will most likely be a different type of bat or maybe even based off of another monster, hopefully.
Msm: MOOOOOOOORRRBIUUUUUUUSSSS
It's super interesting to go into the anatomy of monsters, it gives us a better idea of how they work and even get more ideas for fanmade rares :O Amazing work as always creeptanium!!!
Also for #MSMDraw Xyster meets the bone island monsters
I swear if anyone say's "YoU fOrGoT tO tAlK aBoUt EpIc GrUmPyRe" I am going to lose it because this video came out before Epic Grumpyre did.
I WANT MOAR! I CAN'T WAIT!
I was waiting for this and this is one of my favorite monsters
I Love this series already!
Man I love the way you interpret the Monsters' biology; it's very interesting to see your take on them! :)
You have a great channel you should at least have like 10 million I love your channel
This is really good. I hope we don’t have to wait as long for the next episode.
Theory:
The common grumpyre is the prey version while the rare counterpart is the predator
I loved it! But is there a wheel for seasonals? That would be cool.
I think they're on the miscellaneous wheel
Theory: Grumphyres are oportunist species, who both hunt and scavange for plants, explaining why his eyes move instead of being locked on a single place
I've recently been getting into MSM, and I was hoping you could do some kind of lore catch up video? I'd certainly appreciate it.
Okay, so epic grumpyre got released for Summersong, so here's my biology of it.
As stated in the bio, the epic grumpyre doesn't have the same type of skin as it's common and rare counterparts. From this, I'm getting that the common and are variant have a type of skin chemical that protects them from sunlight, hencing the "shadow" theme, whilst the epic variant doesn't. Because of this, it must cause the skin to swell up. So, the epic grumpyre must have developed a technique that regenerates its skin when it bursts. As stated in the bio, it does the job, but it's like a curse.
Next, it's large ears. I'm guessing that this is both a defense/hunting mechanism and a location system. Because it can't create a smoke screen like it's counterparts, it must have adapted large ears to sense predators/prey. Not only that, but I'm guessing that because of its weird skin, it sometimes has to resort to somewhere dark. Probably caves. So it must have _probably_ adapted large ears for cave echolocation.
Now onto the wings. Because of its slightly transparent wings, that means it's either already has nanopillar wings, or it has less transparent nanopillars.
Finally, the bio states that it likes to enjoy a late night snack. From this, I'm getting that it's an omnivore rater than a hemovore. So I'm guessing it like to steal food, causing it to become hunted.
Also, like monsters such as pompom, congle and cybop, this monster is intelligent enough to know human language.
And that's all! Feel free to say what you think about this, maybe give some criticism.
He knows all this info but still calls a group of octopi "octopuses". That aside, this is a good video!
part 3 pls,i love this series even though i hate biology but u make biology looks fun by combining my favourite game with the subject that i hate
MSM: a cute little monster, he's so cute and friendly and grumpy.
Creeptanium: He kills monsters and monsters kills him!
Vampire bats don't really kill the creatures that they drink blood from, so only the other monsters want to kill grumpire (probably not knowing it's just part of its diet)
Creeptanium: epic grumpyre could have the fire haven critter appearance.
The actual epic grumpyre: help my skin is breaking apart and regenerating.
The actual epic grumpyre: it's morbin time
“the more melanin you have, the darker your hair color and skin is.” wait what my hair is dark brown but my skin is super duper light
МнеI really like the biography of monsters, keep up the good work ;)
Finally! I’ve been waiting for this
My god this series is the best
It seemed like you think that they have to be either predator or prey, but really it seems like it’s just in between, using all these traits of confusion to get closer to its prey, or further from its predator
Hmmm... next will be wublins and wubboxes. I have few questions. If choose wublin, will you do structure of the statue, and if wubbox, normal rares and epics do in one section or not.
The wublins are especially interesting because since they were made only to be friends without natural "mosnter evolution" there will be very little to compare specific anatomy parts to existing animals, like the random branches on screemu or the gross berries on mawlch
About three years ago I had done something like this with the reedling and had concluded it had unidirectional through breathing (something that no terrestrial earth creatures have, but a few fish have something similar with their gills). Basically each reed is connected to one lung and two muscle groups for pumping air, as air is moved from the throat through the body, it passes through the many lungs, with CO2 being immediately sorted out using membranes, expelling it through the reeds. It also has a lot of hearts, one for each pair of lungs, and it’s veins aren’t all interconnected. This results in extremely efficient respiration, and highly oxygenated blood.
I would really love to see a video for your take on reedling anatomy though, I love your note of grumpyres potentially being a prey species!
To back up the food chain theory...
dipsters
camoflauge
Makes sense
1:59
Creeptanium: "Here We See Prey Animals Have Eyes On The Sides Of There He-
Fish And Reptiles: NU UH!
Yeah but Grumpyre is visibly mammalian in its traits
FINALLY AFTER 2 MONTHS I'VE BEEN CELEBRATING CLAMBLE WEEK FOR 2 MONTHS
I love these to much.
Msm draw: A grumpyre trying to take the mushroom cap off of the fungpray.
Epic grumpier should exist!!
I think I'm most excited to see Uuduk, Spytrap, Mushaboom, and Reebro.
Mushaboom looks kind of like an example of symbiosis.
Next Wubbox?
That’d be cool or maybe a celestial?
Epic video man the art has been getting better and better keep it up man! Btw I'm curious what the gob would be like!
I like how the way that your dragon fire looks like it would look like that in dawn of fire on probably space and maybe cave island
Here's a quick theory: the intro music for My singing monsters is grumpyre saying "SHOOMBAGOLA BOM BOM!" Why does everybody think it's Mammot saying that?
That was really nice,i'm very curious for the supernaturals
The weird thing in MSM...
Monsters are perfectly fine on both land (Most islands) and water. (Water Island). They can even vocalize with no muffle, suggesting that most monster's don't need oxygen. This also could just be a lore inconsistency.
Also, for #MSM Draw, baby monsters looking out the window, and seeing what they think i s Yool, but in reality, it's just a Gobblygoard falling so fast it's catching fire.
I feel like they missed a opportunity to make a “side eye” joke
Turns out it’s none of those epic grumpire is actually just a ball of potato soup
And the epic grumpyre was just morbius
Creeptanium:the epic could be a cool bat BBB:soup
I never thought that this type of content would be so interesting
it was probably to make grumpyre easier to animate, but the holes are in the same spots on every wing, suggesting that they were put there. no accidents here! what I'm saying is that maybe grumpyres do have those nanopillars. that would explain the designs.
MBM: My Biologized Monsters
The Epic Grumpyre seems to have no shadow spewing or horns, but has rapidly bursting blisters (extreme regeneration), and bat-like ears
If anything, the shadowy soot is more like a natural sunscreen.
this stuff teaching better than schools
You should do more of these, these are very fun and interesting:)
The Grumpyre has identical "holes" on opposite wings, something leading to the nanostructure theory, as that would be extreamly unlikly to actually happen
Since the epic grumpyre has been released for a while now I think the epic grumpyre is white to fit into cold island better and the bubbling skin is escaping hot gas to cook its food
8:28 the epic grumpyre turned out to be your "new bat type" one
My take on the holes in the wings is that they are from prey that fought back and not nano pillars.
Epic grumpyre just dropped
Yay my favorite ethereal is the focus of the episode!
I'm patiently waiting for the furcorn
It’s grumpin time.
"This would make the grumpyre very annoying, making the other monsters want to hunt it"
so it's like a mosquito?
Why am I suddenly imagining the next art should be some monsters (Mammots, Pompoms, Tweedles, furcorns, ect) chasing a grumpire whith pitchforks and torches? (Like what people did to vampires)
So you're telling me Grumpyre is constantly farting
I love this series
Personally I think grumpyre is a very expert hunter.
I like the idea of a grumpyre being prey that defends itself with smoke
Ters a epic conterpart of grumpijer
This is probably a stupid theory, but what if Grumpyre was smack in the middle of it's food web, and it's just managed to evolve in the most ingenious ways for both offense and defense
i was thinking of this too
My favorite!
*Hears synthesia and how there’s many forms *
*Slowly raises hand *
#MSMDraw Grumpyre experiencing a handful of Gooseworx’s Thalasin+ ‘chemically created emotions’.