Bipod Pre-Load, (how much)
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I know it's three years later, but I am writing about this now, and this explanation is perfect. Gunwerks owner Aaron Davidson talked about this 11 years ago, but you explained it better. This is really, really important information. Thank you, Mark!
Thanks Man, cheers
Its hard to argue with what Mark is saying. This is exactly why bipods on military heavy machine guns have decent amount of play also. Rocking motion is certainly what is required. Thanks Mark for reiterating this
Cheers Mick, thanks
Love it. Mark always talks straight and does not beat around the bush. Great advice as usual.
Cheers man, thanks
I am learning so much, and your explanation and sharing of your experience prevents one from making many mistakes. Many many thanks and greetings from Worms (Germany)
Cheers Kevin, thanks
You got me doing this off the bench with a small 1x1 slat across. You never expressed muscling the load. You were very clean about what you do and I followed. I explain it as comfortably loaded. I'd do the same prone off a shooting matt that has the bipod load strap. I did the same just shooting off the ground with pod on dirt. What I found, and I'm grateful to you for improving my shooting consistency, I wasn't wrestling with my gun anymore and using the press pressure correctly for me.
I also learned a few other things from your channel since I found it. I have used it with my Ruger Precision 6.5 Creedmoor and my Grendel. I'm from Oklahoma so we have our own places we can get out to as far as we want but I shoot mostly with my friends at 1,000 up to 1,500 yards. I also reload and have my own load development.
My long guns and glass is no where close to the great tools you have, but I'm proud of what I can get, out of what I can afford, plus I love my guns. Your instruction goes along way to me getting all I can get out of me....Ha
Thanks for all the help buddy and I'm still not caught up with you videos.
Thanks man, glad they are of some help, cheers
Nice to hear other people found out the same that works for me since years. I had friens stiffen up tjeir bipods, I told em to leave it flexing, but they wouldnt listen. But in my rifles I got the bipods exactly working as you mentioned. I put some spikes onto them so i can get them to track verry consistent no matter if I shoot in the dirt or bench. Just on comcrete bemches the spikes wouldnt work, and my rifles anyway dont like concrete benches, things get jumpy there. Best is wet soil I found for best accuracy, as it dapens a lot of the vibrations.
Thanks Ted, Cheers
The first video on this topic caused me to adopt the concept and I was stunned at how much difference it made and this from 22 rim fire up to and including 308 NATO via 6.5 X 284. Great work, keep it up, best wishes form Northern Ireland !
Thanks Man, glad you liked, Cheers
Love shooting channels that are actually about shooting more than shilling
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Right on Mark, thanks!
Thanks James
Thanks for the advice. Up to 300m pushing against my bipod worked for me. I tested 600m, 800m and 1000m and it did not work. So i tried to let the bipod loose so it could flex, and that worked for me. 😀👍
Awesome, cheers
I noticed this even on a harris, never thought of it this way though, thanks! When the legs are extended that little bit of play is there, and I tend to have smaller groups and less flyers. When collapsed in its a very rigid system, and I get occasionally more flyers. I always thought in my head that I should be more stable low. I've always noticed a difference though. In my opinion, it's important to know what your rifle will do no matter your position. You don't find too many people making M&S level ELR shots off a farm gate or a boulder though :-)
Amazing advice. You're a great teacher. Thanks, and Cheers!
Thanks Matt, glad you liked, Cheers
Completely makes sense what your saying , thanks for the video.
Cheers Shane, thanks
Learning a lot from you Mark. Thanks 👍
Thanks Lyndon, Cheers
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100% in agreement. exactly how i see it. cheers...
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Thanks for sharing your expertise.
Your advice is deeply appreciated.
Cheers Carlos, thanks
Thank you for your videos! By adding a bit of preload to my bipod I’ve been able to be more consistent with my groups.
Cheers Man
Great info Mark! We were just talking about this the other day. Started out talking about that quick deploy bipod you were showing. Turned to the flexibility and preloading. Lol now I have something to show them.
Cheers Matt. thanks
I totally love your videos. Do you have the new 6.8 Western up for a build? I would love to see wher you can stretch its legs to.
I experienced that when I put spikes on my bi pod and loaded it to much, lost my accuracy. Find now with the rubber feet I load it just enough on the bench so it doesn't slide forward. That is the sweet spot. Good Video as Always...Thanks
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At my range I usually shoot from a wooden bench. So the top is wooden. I found that when I switched to spiked feet on my bipod, my groups opened up. But when I went back to the rubber feet, things went back to normal. I found that my bipod was bouncing more using the spiked feet. I don't know if it was digging into the wood and not having any give whatsoever. But I could tell a big difference..
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Thanks Mark
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Rob
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Spot on. If your pod is rock solid it is an easy mod. to give it some give as it were. Just remove material slow.
Yep, Cheers
Thanks sir, good info and gives me something to think about, Have a good day.
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Cheers, Mark.
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Wow. Thank you. I’m always caught fiddling with preload. Very helpful. Cheers.
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thank you I always get something good out of you videos!!
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Thanks Mark for the update , I'm probly putting to much preload. I shoot off a front bench rest. I have been wondering about this , so thanks again
cheers Todd, thanks
Thanks Mark great video , I use a wide spread slide fclass style bipod with a hard rabbit ear leather rear bag works great for me , the only thing I need now is one of your large style bag height and windage setups I’ve nearly saved enough Regards Steve
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Great Video , excellent explanation
Thanks Joe, cheers
As always, Great information, Mark. Wish you could have been doing these videos when I was struggling so hard to hit a target at 2 miles away. Just had to keep going back to the drawing board and configure my next plan of attack. I think that shooting in the mountainous area I shot created big problems with my dynamics of travel and consistency as well. I don't think I ever felt a larger range of emotions than I did when I put my first two shots 10 1/6" apart on the 36" target I was using. Never tried the third shot.
Thanks Craig, glad you liked, Cheers
Hahaha I feel like my question about having a stiff bipod is answered 😅
After you suggested it I have thought of a way to mod my accutac to give it some play by putting in some lighter springs and shimming the legs so they don't lock into the dovetail as hard
Need to test it....
but it definitely doesn't seem to track or move as nicely on a table top that your set up does🥴
I also saw a guy on UA-cam setting his rifles POA on target On his bag and bipod,
Then nestled up behind the rifle......totally different from anything I have seen. I'd definitely like your thoughts on that!
Search "primal rights natural poa if you want to see what I'm talking about....
Thanks Man, glad to help, Cheers
What about skid pods. Mark, I see precision shooters in the states.
I can help answer this Darren. The F-Class T/R Rules can be found on the internet. Those T/R rules differ from the Open Class by the front rest where T/R allows the bipod or sling rather than a machine rest. Nothing stops those bipods from looking just like Mark's. The ones you are referring to are special support philosophy where if we think of Mark's bipod as one type, and a machine rest as another, those more rigid bipods are sort of a third where the attempt is made to have the recoil translate at the sliding skids rather than through the bipod play or the slide between a stock and the machine rest. One could talk all day about the differences in machine rests, regular bipods, and rigid bipods, but the concepts Mark is discussing are similar when they are applied correctly. To see more on the topic, focus on F-T/R instead of F-Open.
Well different but similar, needs set up plate to rest skids on and largely designed for heavier rifles, not something I use or advise on, Cheers
Nice follow up and enjoyed thanks....
Thanks Dave, cheers
Very good information! I was wondering, for the Atlas, do you have your tension knob screwed down tight or do you leave it loosened so you get more rock?
Tight, beyond that, all on the channel, Cheers
Love your content, helps a lot.
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Hi Mark, I follow your channel and I understand the theory behind bipod preloading (forward loading). My question is about Atlas PSR series bipod which purposely introduced Fore and Aft pivot limiting bosses in that bipod to actually prevent any leg movement along barrel axis (make it rigid). Atlas PSR bipods was designed to comply with US SOCOM requirements and this upgrade was one of those requirements. So I am confused why they wanted to have a rigid bipod system selected for US SOCOM sniper rifles?
They are semi rigid, still have the slight movement I describe, we show the Atlas all the time, Cheers
Thank You!
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Great advice Mark 👍
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Great 👍 video mark I think I might be loading too much ? I’ll have to do some testing going a little softer.
Cheers Chris, worth some testing, Cheers
@@markandsamafterwork still winning matches so not horrible. but I do get some days I just feel I don’t quite put it all together.
Or comfortable behind the rifle.
Awesome, Cheers
Good Afternoon, Mark and Sam! Question: how often do you find yourselves having to use the vertical reticle post and stadia to aim, supposing you engage a target at a distance shorter than your zero distance? There are some great scopes with the Horus H59 reticle, but leave a bit to be desired when it comes to having an aiming point for shooting "under" your zero distance.
Not with a 100 yard zero on an ELR rifle, but in other forms of shooting, we do all sorts, as far as holding under, you have to deal with what have....not an ELR question, sorry, Cheers
Great explanation, thx for sharing :)
Thanks Oddur, cheers
People give Magpul a bunch of grief about the little sway in their product.
No something we used here...
Great Video
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always wondered in one of your video's you showed Sam shooting with a gauge for preloading just wondering if you have ever thought about marketing that idea I have looked in your shop but have not seen it there or anywhere . Love the video's you all do and the information you share .
Not something we have finished yet, too much to do, lol, Cheers Mike, all the best.
I may need some advice on “how to suck eggs.”😉
Lol, Cheers
The Harris bi pods don't seem to have much give for preload mate , have I got this right
Yep, Cheers
I have a fortmeier bipod with the ski type feet. Should I try and preload it or just leave it to slide back on its own.
Well, good and strong, but as is, not what I would call a precision unit, but if it works for you, Cheers
@@markandsamafterworkok so which bipod do you think is best for long range precision?
@paul mehan
They do not generally give recommendations on gear as they don't push brands.....but the obvious answer to your question
Is what bipod do you see in most of their videos........thats the one he uses....
Which I'm pretty sure is a custom unit that Mark makes.
Check his store.
Well, there are many good choices out there, what I offer is what to look for, we have a fair few bipod videos, with lots of info, but as P W mentioned, I do not make recommendations, Cheers
"Suck eggs"??? Lol
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