Plus the mood slime, and the slime blower in the research lab. Weird that the news anchor would call it a debacle though after there was literally a celebration for the team where they were awarded a key to the city.
which confirms that ghostbusters 2 thankfully IS cannon also frozen empire wasn't all that good NOT BAD but not the best definitely the #4 spot in quality
I agree. Never understood why it got so much hate. Always seemed like a very worthy sequel to me. I'd even say it's superior in at least one respect - the villain, Vigo the Carpathian, is *much* more scary and developed. It's tough to be as creeped out by Gozar when we get so little of the villain. And you're right to point out that awesome severed head scene in the subway - take *that* all who brush off GBII as a "kiddie" film!
I have never understood why people are so quick to volunteer their own lack of analytical thought. It's one thing to see an opinion and disagree with it. But no, you say you don't even understand why people have that opinion. That makes you a terrible candidate to defend the film. How do you defend criticism when you don't actually understand it? You'd have a point defending the "kiddie" nature of the film... if you weren't factually wrong. Studio interference and trying to incorporate aspects of the cartoon were very much real issues. Look what they did to Janine. Her appearance changed to reflect the cartoon, and that appearance had also been changed to be more kid friendly. Specific things like the round glasses and her haircut were meant to make her seem more soft and motherly. Saying Vigo is scary is subjective. I found him corny. Even as a child seeing it for the first time I knew it wasn't as good as the first. I can't tell you what to like, but it isn't helping your case in favor to just stick your fingers in your ears and ignore legitimate criticisms.
I saw the 1989 sequel as a child in 1989, and even back then I knew right away that the movie was different from the first film. The first movie was more adult, more mature. The second one was good enough, it's not bad, it's just not as brilliant as the first. The second one works best when the characters aren't busting ghosts, the early scenes catching up the guys at the birthday party, Venkman's cable TV show, Egon conducting bogus tests on married couples, and of course that great court room scene. When the second movie introduced Ray and Winston going to a children's birthday party in the first scene, you knew right away this movie was different. Where there even any children or anyone under the age of 18 in the first movie? The two college kids that were probably 20 or 21 in Venkman's shock treatment scene were likely the youngest, but everyone else seemed age 28 or older. Compare that with all other Ghostbusters movies, deliberately going after children. I was a kid when GB2 hit theaters, and I didn't need a kiddie, childish movie that copied the cartoon. The cartoon was good, but it was it's own thing. I wanted a true sequel to the first Ghostbusters movie, and tonally we never really got it.
@@John-ct9zs gb2 still had a scary/unsettling moments. The subway was freaky, the river of slime in the painting and the real location was unsettlings moments and blob monster in the bathtub. The painting was unsettling. These are feelings that are not present in the new ghostbusters movies which are just popcorn action movies.
I have never understood the hate for GB2. I have always lived the way it expanded on the ghosts, the tech and the overall mythos. Having a powerful sorcerer bind himself to a painting in order to preserve his soul long enough to be reincarnated is a hell of a lot more on-brand for a "ghost busting" team than a demigod. I don't mind that Vigo was subdued with positivity and mood slime, it is more of a pay-off for what we've seen throughout the film than when Gozer shows up for five minutes and is outwitted by a guy thinking about roasted marshmallows. I absolutely love the Scoleri brothers - they're terrifying and fun at the same time, which is what the ghosts ought to be. I think the story in GB2 is strong and the big bad is a much stronger presence than in the previous film, which are big green ticks in my book. Also, Winston gets some of the best moments and that always makes happy.
I wouldn't say 2 is better than 1, but it's right up there with it. I think 2 does have more humor and laughs, but that's about all it has over the first. I gotta see them both in theaters, left happy each time, and love them more today. Afterlife was awesome as well, a perfect way to reintroduce the world, the characters, and the lore. It's got me really excited to see Frozen Empire.
I won't spoil it, but from my perspective Frozen Empire was fantastic. A few things I could nitpick, primarily with pacing, but overall a very worthy entry into the franchise.
Since Dana was a musician in the first film, it's very likely she has some kind of degree in the arts, and that could easily translate into a job working at a gallery, and even doing minor work cleaning/restoring paintings.
I also saw Ghostbusters 2 before I saw the first one and I firmly believe that because I saw it first, I enjoyed it more than the first film. This is primarily because I remember being absolutely terrified of Vigo the Carpathian as a child. This fear, as a result, stuck with me and therefore as years went by I started to really appreciate Vigo as a villain, who is for sure more developed and intimidating than Gozer was. I personally think what Ghostbusters 2 lacked in terms of having a more, "catering to children" script, it makes up for by having some rather creepy scenes. Seeing the river of slime for the first time had me all like, "wtf?" The scene where Egon and Ray get trapped in the red room that goes up in flames when examining the photos Peter took of Vigo is also horrifying. And of course, the severed head scene when Ray, Egon, and Winston are down in the abandoned train tunnels is pretty iconic. I intend on seeing a fan edit of Ghostbusters 2 at some point and I look forward to seeing how things add up.
Thank you, I was thinking the same thing. Many people can be seen giving the V for Victory sign in pictures taken right after World War 2 ended. Apparently Winston Churchill is it's originator.
As a kid, I loved 2. I didn't realize until I got a bit older that it was almost a beat-for-beat rehash of the first film. I felt it lost the edge 1 had by playing more to the Real Ghostbusters/family-friendly crowd. Yanosh, however, was and remains priceless. If the film had taken more creative risks and not shied away from being a bit more adult, I think it would be more highly regarded today
Unfortunately The Real Ghostbusters played a major role in the softening of the second film. I think had we not had the animated series in between we would have had a very different movie, but I also wouldn't want the animated series to not exist at all either.
I was too young to remember seeing GB1 in theaters, so my first memories were when it came to VHS. I immediately loved it (and the animated series, too). I actually saw GB2 when it released and it was an incredible experience. I've always liked the film, even though I think it is mostly inferior to the original. It still has some very memorable moments and quotable lines and I'm so happy that it came to pass. I understand Murray's frustrations and how they lead up to his desire to distance himself from the franchise for many years. That said, I still think his work, and that of everyone else on the film, was incredible.
That's awesome that you got to see GB2 at release. What was the overall experience back then? Did people mostly malign it like many tend to do now or did they seem to enjoy it?
@@ProfessorEclipse The memory is fairly distant and hazy now but I recall everyone being excited and positive about it overall. I don't really think I ever encountered any serious negativity against the film until the late 00's, probably propagated somewhere on the internet and perhaps brought on by the relative drought of GB content in the wake of the sequel.
Fair. I was too young for most of it, but I do remember the hate that Extreme Ghostbusters got for having such a diverse cast, which I always thought was kinda dumb. Plus Kylie was my first experience with goth girls, which deeeeefinitely became a thing in high school 😂.
My local Fox station started airing classic Real Ghostbusters episodes on Sundays August 1997. I taped them and wondered why air these out of nowhere, then Extreme premiered in September! I was in high school, but the show brought back my enthusiasm for the franchise.@@ProfessorEclipse
I was deep in the weeds with Ghostbusters as a kid. There was a lengthy period of time where I was determined that I was going to be a ghostbuster when I grew up. When the first movie came out, I was old enough to understand that it was just a movie, but also young enough to think it was a movie about a real profession :p I watched the animated series every day after school, and made my own spirit guide, writing down all the information I could about the ghosts in each episode. Considerably more than a casual fan being the point :p When GB2 came out, I had just turned 10 years old. Now old enough to know that ghostbusting was not an actual career path I could follow, but still very invested in the franchise (though the animated series was starting to lose favour with me, having switched its focus to slimer). Ghostbusters II was the first time I ever felt betrayed by a movie. After five years of investment in the franchise, watching the adventures of the ghostbusters daily after school, suddenly I was asked to believe that not only were the Ghostbusters out of business, but that no one even believed in ghosts, and actively denied the events of the first film. Even at 10 years old, that was more than my suspension of disbelief could accommodate. I left the theater profoundly disappointed.
I think that ghostbusters 2 is not as bad as people say but I still think that the first one is better and it shocked me that the stay puft marshmallow man didn’t show up this shocked me because he is in every other ghostbusters film.
i like it cuz its exactly the kind of goofy campy silliness youd expect from a 'ghostbusters' movie, which ive always felt like had never taken themselves too seriously. despite the studio getting too involved it still feels like something that was written when too high to remember it, which i (personally) really really like about the first two 'ghostbusters'
Both of those scenes were excellent. It's always tough to live up to the 1st film in a series, but I think the biggest problem with GB2 lies in how similar the beats feel to the first film rather that taking a new and more experimental approach
@@ProfessorEclipse yes, I know what you mean. Though your damned either way. Go to familiar or too different and you could find criticism. I’m glad Afterlife had differences in the location and new characters etc. I’m excited to see Frozen Empire though. It looks fun.
Ghostbusters 2 isn't my favorite film in the series. But I love it. It's a good sequel. I too mainly watched this one on the movie channels growing up, and the terrifying images of the river of slime, Janosz as a ghost nanny, and the ghost train scene still stick out in my head as excellent horror moments. It's something the new films are lacking, IMO.
I like Ghostbusters 2 probably more than the original also. I actually remember seeing the original in theaters when i was only 5. GB 2 had some really memorable parts like the statue of liberty coming to life and Vigo was honestly pretty awesome! I also love those montages where they were announcing their comeback and the one with the slime taking over the city.
Anyone who grew up with the ghostbusters doesn’t have a problem with Part 2 at all. I loved the first one but the second one was freakin awesome…the Statue of Liberty scene was the shit! I was 6 when this movie came out.
There was also a bunch of scary stuff cut from this movie. The sewer scene was supposed to have this nasty ghost monster that they had a puppet made for it. There was also a cut scene in the flip city montage where a ghost frog eats a subway train
I saw Ghostbusters 2 a few times at the movies. I love it and personally thinks that it's a little bit better than the first because it was fully developed and the cast were able to just have fun since their characters' development were done well in the first one. Plus, the villain was great, there were way more ghosts on screen, a lot of slime, and it gave Real Ghostbusters and Kenner Toys like vibes! It's rare for a sequel to be better than the original, but Ghostbusters 2 is definitely one of them!
GB2 is fantastic! My most favorite of the series. Vigo was terrifying and the part where Scary Poppins kidnapping the baby traumatized me as a kid. Frozen Empire did good too. Way better than Afterlife.
GB2 is so much better. Every scene is Iconic. The court room scene, the digging the hole in the middle of the street with “the phone lines are over there” the subway scene, the super short titanic scene, when they go to the museum and start investigating. I think I can keep going. There is so much more to going on. When they say it follows the same beats as the first one I don’t see it!
Overall 2 was very good, but not better than the 1st by any means. What killed 2 for me was the Lady Liberty scene. They tried to one-up the marshmallow man and it didn't work for me. Marshmallow man was a hilarious surprise. Lady liberty coming to life was dumb.
That's fair. It wasn't really necessary, but child me still thought it was kinda cool that they used the same slime that was causing the problem to help solve the problem.
Wait a minute, this film cost 25 to 35 million to make. Still made over 215 million worldwide. How is that a loss? Sure it made less than the first, but so do most 2nd chapters.
Gb 2 was awesome for me in 1989. I was too young for the first movie. I loved The Real Ghostbusters more than the 84 film. The sequel was more goofy like the animated series, yet Janine wasn't lobotomized (Kath Soucie ABC) and still had her attitude. Great ILM effects, busting gear, and more action than the original. Snobby critics hated on it, so the movie franchise stayed dormant until 2016.
I love GB 2. I find Ghostbusters 1 kinda boring. Keep in mind i was born in 99 and wasn,t introduced to Ghostbusters till years later. So I don,t have the same nostalgia as you guys.
That's valid. I was just a couple months old when GB2 came out, but once I was old enough to like things I generally found the second one to be the one I'd watch more often.
I agree with the video’s title, it’s pretty underrated IMO. Sure it’s just a copy paste of the first film but I’ve seen worser movies than have copy and pastes too.
Ghostbusters 2 sucked. Its greatest sin was that it WASN'T FUNNY. Bill Murray did Ghostbusters and his passion project The Razor's Edge in 1984. He was so demoralized by The Razor's Edge failure that he took four years off and moved his family to Paris, only making a cameo in Little Shop of Horrors until he returned in Scrooged. Then Ghostbusters 2. But Murray came back a different person. He didn't unleash the hilarious improvisations anymore like he did in Meatballs, Caddyshack, and the first Ghostbusters (the Peter Venkman role had been written for John Belushi and Bill completely changed it for himself). Ghostbusters 2 would still be the worst sequel but Ghostbusters 2016 happened, guaranteeing that that abomination will be the worst Ghostbusters sequel and perhaps the worst sequel of all time). Afterlife wasn't funny either, but it didn't suck as badly as 2016. Nothing will. But they'll keep trying.
Understandable. I think "better" is really dependant on which one a person saw first. I saw GBII for the first time when I was maybe 5 or so and I loved it, then saw the first one like a year later and thought it was too scary at first, but still loved it as well.
Nah I loved Ghostbusters 2, for me it was a good sequel, if im gonna be honest, Afterlife wasn't as good. I know im one of the few who didnt like it, but i just couldn't get past Ray hating on Egon, never would have happened. Egon would have said he something big is happening and Ray would have been by his side figuring it all out. Plus one thing that bothered me and no one could explain it to me, cuz maybe i missed something, but how did Lucky turn into a terror dog when 5 minutes earlier they set the premise that before turning into one you have to have had sex with Gatekeeper/keymaster.
I gave it a pass. At this point, so many classic franchises have been exploited and run into the ground, I have no confidence that any sequels will do their spirit justice.
I enjoyed Afterlife, but there's a lot of valid criticism to be had of it. To me it didn't really feel like a Ghostbusters movie, which is also the reason why a lot of other people did like it I guess too. It's definitely the one I rewatch the least, and when I do I fast forward through about half of it to get to the fun stuff.
Ghostbusters II does not get too much hate. Ghostbusters II is appropriately beloved and appropriately criticized. No, it is not as good nor better than the original. The original Ghostbusters film is lightning in a bottle. Its a hilarious comedy full of jokes, and the fact that the characters happen to be ghost exterminators is a framework onto which pe fect jokes were expertly hung. Everything after has been a toy commercial.
They made a big mistake by having the Ghostbusters as jokes who nobody believed, etc. That was disrespectful to them and to the audience who loved them.. as well as insulting the audience's intelligence. So, a terrible start, which I'm still annoyed about. Apart from that, I agree, it's very very good - but it's so hard to get past that slap in the face of an opening.
Definitely something I didn't care for either, even as a kid. I never wanted He-man at a birthday party, I wanted the Ghostbusters! They did the same thing to an extent in Afterlife too and I'm just like "could we not?"
@@ProfessorEclipse Exactly. It also leaves a bad taste in the mouth after the end when they save the city with all the people cheering again. Should they not be thinking "ok, but you people quickly turned your back on us last time though.." lol I never watched that A-Team movie with Liam Neeson, partly because they destroyed the van right at the beginning.. why?? Ha ha
Does GB 2 rehash the plot beats as GB 1? yes. Does it water down the adult humor a bit? yes. With that said the humor is still way closer to the original film than anything that has come after (except the 2009 video game). The cast still has chemistry and it is still funny and fun. Considering the all the terrible squeals, remakes and reboots these days, GB II is a like a masterpiece. The video game did capture much of the vibe as well. GB 1, GB 2 and the video game were all written by Dan and Harold.
IMO the worse thing about 2 how stupid everyone other than Dana and the main crew act, it’s weird for people to claim “your full of shit and you were lying” when ghosts were a REAL THING
I don't think this video needs the blow by blow recap of the entire story. Your goal is to tell us WHY its good. NOT to recap the whole movie. Assume the people who click on this have already seen the movie and have already seen multiple reviews of it. Just tell us why its actually good. tell us how you felt watching it. Tell us history and technical stuff. You're doing way too much recapping. This video plays like a Movie review I wrote when I was 11. You're not actually giving your opinions , not selling your opinion.
Frozen Empire🧊does have a flashback from the 1989 sequel most notably the Statue Of Liberty walking down the streets of New York sequence. 🗽🌆🚫👻
Plus the mood slime, and the slime blower in the research lab.
Weird that the news anchor would call it a debacle though after there was literally a celebration for the team where they were awarded a key to the city.
@@ProfessorEclipse hi Professor Eclipse thanks to defense ghostbusters 2 and good video. my favorit ghostbusters 2 movie
which confirms that ghostbusters 2 thankfully IS cannon
also frozen empire wasn't all that good NOT BAD but not the best definitely the #4 spot in quality
I agree. Never understood why it got so much hate. Always seemed like a very worthy sequel to me. I'd even say it's superior in at least one respect - the villain, Vigo the Carpathian, is *much* more scary and developed. It's tough to be as creeped out by Gozar when we get so little of the villain.
And you're right to point out that awesome severed head scene in the subway - take *that* all who brush off GBII as a "kiddie" film!
I have never understood why people are so quick to volunteer their own lack of analytical thought. It's one thing to see an opinion and disagree with it. But no, you say you don't even understand why people have that opinion. That makes you a terrible candidate to defend the film. How do you defend criticism when you don't actually understand it?
You'd have a point defending the "kiddie" nature of the film... if you weren't factually wrong. Studio interference and trying to incorporate aspects of the cartoon were very much real issues. Look what they did to Janine. Her appearance changed to reflect the cartoon, and that appearance had also been changed to be more kid friendly. Specific things like the round glasses and her haircut were meant to make her seem more soft and motherly.
Saying Vigo is scary is subjective. I found him corny. Even as a child seeing it for the first time I knew it wasn't as good as the first.
I can't tell you what to like, but it isn't helping your case in favor to just stick your fingers in your ears and ignore legitimate criticisms.
@@simpleanswer8954Chill. You’re condescending as fuck.
I saw the 1989 sequel as a child in 1989, and even back then I knew right away that the movie was different from the first film. The first movie was more adult, more mature. The second one was good enough, it's not bad, it's just not as brilliant as the first. The second one works best when the characters aren't busting ghosts, the early scenes catching up the guys at the birthday party, Venkman's cable TV show, Egon conducting bogus tests on married couples, and of course that great court room scene. When the second movie introduced Ray and Winston going to a children's birthday party in the first scene, you knew right away this movie was different. Where there even any children or anyone under the age of 18 in the first movie? The two college kids that were probably 20 or 21 in Venkman's shock treatment scene were likely the youngest, but everyone else seemed age 28 or older. Compare that with all other Ghostbusters movies, deliberately going after children. I was a kid when GB2 hit theaters, and I didn't need a kiddie, childish movie that copied the cartoon. The cartoon was good, but it was it's own thing. I wanted a true sequel to the first Ghostbusters movie, and tonally we never really got it.
@@John-ct9zs gb2 still had a scary/unsettling moments. The subway was freaky, the river of slime in the painting and the real location was unsettlings moments and blob monster in the bathtub. The painting was unsettling. These are feelings that are not present in the new ghostbusters movies which are just popcorn action movies.
I have never understood the hate for GB2. I have always lived the way it expanded on the ghosts, the tech and the overall mythos. Having a powerful sorcerer bind himself to a painting in order to preserve his soul long enough to be reincarnated is a hell of a lot more on-brand for a "ghost busting" team than a demigod. I don't mind that Vigo was subdued with positivity and mood slime, it is more of a pay-off for what we've seen throughout the film than when Gozer shows up for five minutes and is outwitted by a guy thinking about roasted marshmallows. I absolutely love the Scoleri brothers - they're terrifying and fun at the same time, which is what the ghosts ought to be. I think the story in GB2 is strong and the big bad is a much stronger presence than in the previous film, which are big green ticks in my book. Also, Winston gets some of the best moments and that always makes happy.
I wouldn't say 2 is better than 1, but it's right up there with it. I think 2 does have more humor and laughs, but that's about all it has over the first. I gotta see them both in theaters, left happy each time, and love them more today. Afterlife was awesome as well, a perfect way to reintroduce the world, the characters, and the lore. It's got me really excited to see Frozen Empire.
I won't spoil it, but from my perspective Frozen Empire was fantastic. A few things I could nitpick, primarily with pacing, but overall a very worthy entry into the franchise.
The second one was definitely scarier as well.
Since Dana was a musician in the first film, it's very likely she has some kind of degree in the arts, and that could easily translate into a job working at a gallery, and even doing minor work cleaning/restoring paintings.
I also saw Ghostbusters 2 before I saw the first one and I firmly believe that because I saw it first, I enjoyed it more than the first film. This is primarily because I remember being absolutely terrified of Vigo the Carpathian as a child. This fear, as a result, stuck with me and therefore as years went by I started to really appreciate Vigo as a villain, who is for sure more developed and intimidating than Gozer was.
I personally think what Ghostbusters 2 lacked in terms of having a more, "catering to children" script, it makes up for by having some rather creepy scenes. Seeing the river of slime for the first time had me all like, "wtf?" The scene where Egon and Ray get trapped in the red room that goes up in flames when examining the photos Peter took of Vigo is also horrifying. And of course, the severed head scene when Ray, Egon, and Winston are down in the abandoned train tunnels is pretty iconic.
I intend on seeing a fan edit of Ghostbusters 2 at some point and I look forward to seeing how things add up.
15:51 - True! Viggo IS much more fleshed out than Gozer!
Still my favorite. Vigo being there from the start definitely helps. Much scarier villain!
The 2 fingers "peace" hand gesture also means V fo VICTORY. Victory! They won their court case and can resume busting ghosts.
Thank you, I was thinking the same thing. Many people can be seen giving the V for Victory sign in pictures taken right after World War 2 ended. Apparently Winston Churchill is it's originator.
Or a peace sign. Positive vibes. You know. Mood slime.
I don't think it's better than the original but it's still a good movie in it's own right. It's still very enjoyable to watch.
As a kid, I loved 2. I didn't realize until I got a bit older that it was almost a beat-for-beat rehash of the first film. I felt it lost the edge 1 had by playing more to the Real Ghostbusters/family-friendly crowd. Yanosh, however, was and remains priceless. If the film had taken more creative risks and not shied away from being a bit more adult, I think it would be more highly regarded today
Unfortunately The Real Ghostbusters played a major role in the softening of the second film. I think had we not had the animated series in between we would have had a very different movie, but I also wouldn't want the animated series to not exist at all either.
I was too young to remember seeing GB1 in theaters, so my first memories were when it came to VHS. I immediately loved it (and the animated series, too). I actually saw GB2 when it released and it was an incredible experience. I've always liked the film, even though I think it is mostly inferior to the original. It still has some very memorable moments and quotable lines and I'm so happy that it came to pass. I understand Murray's frustrations and how they lead up to his desire to distance himself from the franchise for many years. That said, I still think his work, and that of everyone else on the film, was incredible.
That's awesome that you got to see GB2 at release. What was the overall experience back then? Did people mostly malign it like many tend to do now or did they seem to enjoy it?
@@ProfessorEclipse The memory is fairly distant and hazy now but I recall everyone being excited and positive about it overall. I don't really think I ever encountered any serious negativity against the film until the late 00's, probably propagated somewhere on the internet and perhaps brought on by the relative drought of GB content in the wake of the sequel.
Fair. I was too young for most of it, but I do remember the hate that Extreme Ghostbusters got for having such a diverse cast, which I always thought was kinda dumb. Plus Kylie was my first experience with goth girls, which deeeeefinitely became a thing in high school 😂.
I saw GB 2 in theaters we were pretty excited about the sequel and we loved it! We bought the Bobby Brown song and taped the video off of tv.
My local Fox station started airing classic Real Ghostbusters episodes on Sundays August 1997. I taped them and wondered why air these out of nowhere, then Extreme premiered in September! I was in high school, but the show brought back my enthusiasm for the franchise.@@ProfessorEclipse
Love GB2! Peter MacNicol steals the show.
He really does. MVP of the movie
Why am I drippings with Goo?@@ProfessorEclipse
I was deep in the weeds with Ghostbusters as a kid. There was a lengthy period of time where I was determined that I was going to be a ghostbuster when I grew up. When the first movie came out, I was old enough to understand that it was just a movie, but also young enough to think it was a movie about a real profession :p I watched the animated series every day after school, and made my own spirit guide, writing down all the information I could about the ghosts in each episode. Considerably more than a casual fan being the point :p
When GB2 came out, I had just turned 10 years old. Now old enough to know that ghostbusting was not an actual career path I could follow, but still very invested in the franchise (though the animated series was starting to lose favour with me, having switched its focus to slimer).
Ghostbusters II was the first time I ever felt betrayed by a movie. After five years of investment in the franchise, watching the adventures of the ghostbusters daily after school, suddenly I was asked to believe that not only were the Ghostbusters out of business, but that no one even believed in ghosts, and actively denied the events of the first film. Even at 10 years old, that was more than my suspension of disbelief could accommodate.
I left the theater profoundly disappointed.
Ghostbusters 2 is my favorite of the two 80s movies. I haven't seen the most recent one yet.
Afterlife is great. Definitely watch it in preparation for Frozen Empire.
You definitely should watch afterlife. I'm doing a video on it this week which should be out Thursday!
I like it, but I think what we all wanted was a Yanosh spinoff.
Dude literally had all the funniest lines in the movie.
“Everything you’re doing is bad I want you to know this….” 😂
I think that ghostbusters 2 is not as bad as people say but I still think that the first one is better and it shocked me that the stay puft marshmallow man didn’t show up this shocked me because he is in every other ghostbusters film.
i like it cuz its exactly the kind of goofy campy silliness youd expect from a 'ghostbusters' movie, which ive always felt like had never taken themselves too seriously. despite the studio getting too involved it still feels like something that was written when too high to remember it, which i (personally) really really like about the first two 'ghostbusters'
It’s not as good as the first but I still love it. I like the court room scene and the montage sequence. Film gets too much dislike.
Both of those scenes were excellent. It's always tough to live up to the 1st film in a series, but I think the biggest problem with GB2 lies in how similar the beats feel to the first film rather that taking a new and more experimental approach
@@ProfessorEclipse yes, I know what you mean. Though your damned either way. Go to familiar or too different and you could find criticism. I’m glad Afterlife had differences in the location and new characters etc. I’m excited to see Frozen Empire though. It looks fun.
Ghostbusters 2 isn't my favorite film in the series. But I love it. It's a good sequel. I too mainly watched this one on the movie channels growing up, and the terrifying images of the river of slime, Janosz as a ghost nanny, and the ghost train scene still stick out in my head as excellent horror moments. It's something the new films are lacking, IMO.
I like Ghostbusters 2 probably more than the original also. I actually remember seeing the original in theaters when i was only 5. GB 2 had some really memorable parts like the statue of liberty coming to life and Vigo was honestly pretty awesome! I also love those montages where they were announcing their comeback and the one with the slime taking over the city.
The montages were definitely a high point for both films!
I tend to imagine that the hand soap you sometimes find in public bathrooms is actually the pink slime from Ghostbusters 2.
I liked number 2 as well more than the first.
GB2 has always been one of my favorite films, yes there were some things that did not make sense but over GB2 is an 8 out of 10!
I actually love "On Our Own" more than "Ghostbusters". Huey Lewis does too.
I saw both tons as a kid and liked them both as much as each other. Vigo was certainly creepier as a kid as he was there in the entire movie.
Anyone who grew up with the ghostbusters doesn’t have a problem with Part 2 at all. I loved the first one but the second one was freakin awesome…the Statue of Liberty scene was the shit! I was 6 when this movie came out.
There was also a bunch of scary stuff cut from this movie. The sewer scene was supposed to have this nasty ghost monster that they had a puppet made for it. There was also a cut scene in the flip city montage where a ghost frog eats a subway train
I saw Ghostbusters 2 a few times at the movies. I love it and personally thinks that it's a little bit better than the first because it was fully developed and the cast were able to just have fun since their characters' development were done well in the first one. Plus, the villain was great, there were way more ghosts on screen, a lot of slime, and it gave Real Ghostbusters and Kenner Toys like vibes! It's rare for a sequel to be better than the original, but Ghostbusters 2 is definitely one of them!
I loved that Vigo was a more present villain. In the first one the word Gozer didn't even come up until the second act of the film.
@@ProfessorEclipse Exactly! I totally agree!
GB2 is fantastic! My most favorite of the series. Vigo was terrifying and the part where Scary Poppins kidnapping the baby traumatized me as a kid. Frozen Empire did good too. Way better than Afterlife.
GB2 is so much better. Every scene is Iconic. The court room scene, the digging the hole in the middle of the street with “the phone lines are over there” the subway scene, the super short titanic scene, when they go to the museum and start investigating. I think I can keep going. There is so much more to going on. When they say it follows the same beats as the first one I don’t see it!
Overall 2 was very good, but not better than the 1st by any means. What killed 2 for me was the Lady Liberty scene. They tried to one-up the marshmallow man and it didn't work for me. Marshmallow man was a hilarious surprise. Lady liberty coming to life was dumb.
That's fair. It wasn't really necessary, but child me still thought it was kinda cool that they used the same slime that was causing the problem to help solve the problem.
@@ProfessorEclipse I definitely agree with that part of it! And I subbed, great content.
Seeing the deleted scenes from ghostbusters 2, you can tell it was a great film and a very different film. Wish we can see a directors cut
Wait a minute, this film cost 25 to 35 million to make. Still made over 215 million worldwide. How is that a loss? Sure it made less than the first, but so do most 2nd chapters.
Financially it was a success, but the years of people taking negatively about the film has skewed opinions.
I honestly like this one better, more Ghost, plot holes of course.but so cool maybe because i seen it in the theater at 8 years old ..
Gb 2 was awesome for me in 1989. I was too young for the first movie. I loved The Real Ghostbusters more than the 84 film. The sequel was more goofy like the animated series, yet Janine wasn't lobotomized (Kath Soucie ABC) and still had her attitude. Great ILM effects, busting gear, and more action than the original. Snobby critics hated on it, so the movie franchise stayed dormant until 2016.
I like the Ghostbusters films.
Same!
I love GB 2.
I find Ghostbusters 1 kinda boring.
Keep in mind i was born in 99 and wasn,t introduced to Ghostbusters till years later.
So I don,t have the same nostalgia as you guys.
That's valid. I was just a couple months old when GB2 came out, but once I was old enough to like things I generally found the second one to be the one I'd watch more often.
I agree with the video’s title, it’s pretty underrated IMO. Sure it’s just a copy paste of the first film but I’ve seen worser movies than have copy and pastes too.
The second film had a decent story, but that was overshadowed by the amount of product placement used.
Ghostbusters 2 sucked. Its greatest sin was that it WASN'T FUNNY.
Bill Murray did Ghostbusters and his passion project The Razor's Edge in 1984. He was so demoralized by The Razor's Edge failure that he took four years off and moved his family to Paris, only making a cameo in Little Shop of Horrors until he returned in Scrooged. Then Ghostbusters 2. But Murray came back a different person. He didn't unleash the hilarious improvisations anymore like he did in Meatballs, Caddyshack, and the first Ghostbusters (the Peter Venkman role had been written for John Belushi and Bill completely changed it for himself).
Ghostbusters 2 would still be the worst sequel but Ghostbusters 2016 happened, guaranteeing that that abomination will be the worst Ghostbusters sequel and perhaps the worst sequel of all time).
Afterlife wasn't funny either, but it didn't suck as badly as 2016. Nothing will. But they'll keep trying.
Bill Murray is really funny in the second film. It gets too much hate but its biggest problem is being a rehash of the first.
I dont think its better but its no were near as bad as they say
Understandable. I think "better" is really dependant on which one a person saw first.
I saw GBII for the first time when I was maybe 5 or so and I loved it, then saw the first one like a year later and thought it was too scary at first, but still loved it as well.
Nah I loved Ghostbusters 2, for me it was a good sequel, if im gonna be honest, Afterlife wasn't as good. I know im one of the few who didnt like it, but i just couldn't get past Ray hating on Egon, never would have happened. Egon would have said he something big is happening and Ray would have been by his side figuring it all out. Plus one thing that bothered me and no one could explain it to me, cuz maybe i missed something, but how did Lucky turn into a terror dog when 5 minutes earlier they set the premise that before turning into one you have to have had sex with Gatekeeper/keymaster.
I gave it a pass. At this point, so many classic franchises have been exploited and run into the ground, I have no confidence that any sequels will do their spirit justice.
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I enjoyed Afterlife, but there's a lot of valid criticism to be had of it. To me it didn't really feel like a Ghostbusters movie, which is also the reason why a lot of other people did like it I guess too. It's definitely the one I rewatch the least, and when I do I fast forward through about half of it to get to the fun stuff.
Ghostbusters II does not get too much hate.
Ghostbusters II is appropriately beloved and appropriately criticized.
No, it is not as good nor better than the original. The original Ghostbusters film is lightning in a bottle. Its a hilarious comedy full of jokes, and the fact that the characters happen to be ghost exterminators is a framework onto which pe fect jokes were expertly hung.
Everything after has been a toy commercial.
To be fair though, the toys have been generally pretty awesome.
I love gb2 cuz of its darker tone
They made a big mistake by having the Ghostbusters as jokes who nobody believed, etc. That was disrespectful to them and to the audience who loved them.. as well as insulting the audience's intelligence. So, a terrible start, which I'm still annoyed about. Apart from that, I agree, it's very very good - but it's so hard to get past that slap in the face of an opening.
Definitely something I didn't care for either, even as a kid. I never wanted He-man at a birthday party, I wanted the Ghostbusters!
They did the same thing to an extent in Afterlife too and I'm just like "could we not?"
@@ProfessorEclipse Exactly. It also leaves a bad taste in the mouth after the end when they save the city with all the people cheering again. Should they not be thinking "ok, but you people quickly turned your back on us last time though.." lol
I never watched that A-Team movie with Liam Neeson, partly because they destroyed the van right at the beginning.. why?? Ha ha
Does GB 2 rehash the plot beats as GB 1? yes. Does it water down the adult humor a bit? yes. With that said the humor is still way closer to the original film than anything that has come after (except the 2009 video game). The cast still has chemistry and it is still funny and fun. Considering the all the terrible squeals, remakes and reboots these days, GB II is a like a masterpiece. The video game did capture much of the vibe as well. GB 1, GB 2 and the video game were all written by Dan and Harold.
Gb2 probably had more paranormal activities wereas gb1 was more intimate with the characters both are still good
Peter MacNichol was awesome in this
GB2 fell victim to many sequels of the time. They basically redid the first film's story beats.
I'm not going to lie part of me enjoys the second one a lot more than the first one. Are there any sequels that I actually prefer over the original.
Better than the original?
No, not even close. But it is the only decent sequel we’ve ever gotten.
Ghostbusters II gets way too much hate
I think it is better than the first
I don't hate frozen empire just think there's a few bits that are strange and maybe not needed but everyone is entitled to there own opinion
I love GB2
IMO the worse thing about 2 how stupid everyone other than Dana and the main crew act, it’s weird for people to claim “your full of shit and you were lying” when ghosts were a REAL THING
Well it’s a good movie, but the best is still the first one.
GB2 was the funnier film. GB1 had better dialogue
And down voted for implying that anything Doug Walker said would be a good idea, and clicked off at 4 minutes 19 seconds...
A broken clock is still right twice a day my dude. You are 100% welcome to hate the person, but think something they said was a good idea.
I don't think this video needs the blow by blow recap of the entire story. Your goal is to tell us WHY its good. NOT to recap the whole movie.
Assume the people who click on this have already seen the movie and have already seen multiple reviews of it. Just tell us why its actually good.
tell us how you felt watching it. Tell us history and technical stuff.
You're doing way too much recapping. This video plays like a Movie review I wrote when I was 11. You're not actually giving your opinions , not selling your opinion.