I can’t thank you enough for making this video. Not only did it solve the problem, but your explanation was clear and thorough…I was even able to get the product number from your Lowe’s receipt! For anyone who’s interested, it’s 44748 for 1/8” brass rod
I bought my pool last summer and only used it for 2 months and this summer for about 2 as well and my pump stopped working and it was humming but not working so I found you're video as I was searching to try to fix my problem and I purchased the brass round and cut it to size and boom it's working great now ty so much for you're video now I can enjoy the rest of the summer. I contacted the polygroup company that makes my pool and they would not replace the pump or the rotor assembly as the warranty was for 6 months even tho I didn't use it for that long. I paid almost 600 dollars for it plus chemicals, sand and everything I needed to set it up. I won't purchase a pool from them again I will get a better pool next summer. Again ty so much for you're video without it I would be spending about 40 bucks for the rotor assembly and now everything is just peachy :) :)
Thank you so much for this video! I was going to go out and buy a $200 pump and I decided to give your fix a try but didn't think it would work because I'm not very handy when it comes to fixing things, but sure enough it worked great! My Canadian Tire sells the Hillman 1/8 inch x 36 inch brass rod (but that brand is not listed on the online site) and I just took it to their auto service desk and asked if they had wire cutters to cut it to exactly 3 5/16" (8.41 cm) and they cut me a couple pieces. I didn't take the bottom piece off of the pump because I couldn't get it off so I just unplugged the pump and worked from the top pulling that magnet out with my fingers and doing the rest of your steps. I cleaned out all the debris from the blades and I put the flattest piece of the brass rod at the bottom of the pump and the top was cut a little crooked so I did what you suggested and sanded it down a little bit on concrete to smooth the edge. The pump works better than it has in a long time! For those of you that are having trouble getting the black round stopper plug to seal the sidewall pool hole while working on the pump just put Vaseline around the edge of that plug and it sticks in place nicely. Thank you again for this awesome money saving video!
Rob, my friend - you just saved the rest of my summer! Can't thank you enough for your video. I'm pretty handy, but I gotta admit - knowing I had to deal with a pool pump was an 'Oh s**t' moment. So easy. Well done. From my whole family here in Long Island, NY.....THANK YOU!!
I bought my Summer Waves pool last year and had no problems with the sfx1000 pump all season. I went to open my pool this year and the pump would start to turn on, but wouldn't. I took everything apart thinking it was a broken pin (mine looks to be plastic) and the pin looked totally fine! Upon a closer look though, the top end of the pin is just barely rounded on the edges. So I figured I'd take a chance and flip it and put the good side on top. It started working immediately! Thanks for the great video info and comments from everyone!
@@bobganoosh5520 went to Lowe's, they did not have it. Maybe HD I'll try but thx so much because I wasn't sure if the shaft was broken but after seeing your video I checked it and sure enough one end was smooth the other was jagged and slightly sharp. So, you Da man!
Its so EASY and it WORKS! I am not (but becoming) a handy housewife and this saved us $170. Our 2nd pump just broke and I was ready to buy another one because I didn't know what else to do. I watched this video earlier this afternoon spent $1.59 for the brass rod, worked on the pump for about 15-20 mins and now my pump is working as good or better than new. Thank you so much! Great advice and great video.
Old pin was snapped Put the new pin in turned it on it hummed for a few seconds no water pumped then nothing, Prior to the new pin it would at least go on. It was worth a try but this is a piece of sh*t . When you start looking for new pump parts etc after 4 months and see so many people with the same issues well like I said, POS. Thank you for the video very kind of you to help people out. Part 2: edited the next day OK next day I took it apart again. I must have done something wrong with top washer for 1 thing. Also in video I didn't realize at bottom of shaft there is a washer. I also had a shaft from a pool from several years ago. I cut it to recommended size and started over. Boom ! Pump kicked in immediately and works better than ever. HUGE SAVINGS as I was not thrilled about buying new pump at almost what the pool cost. However this does not change my thoughts as stated above re: this thing : It still is a POS when you need to replace pump parts after a few months . It's common as we see here. Fortunately I and others were very lucky to find this video !! Thanks again for this video.
2nd season of use and my pump ran for about a week then, as described, just the “hum” of the motor and no water flow. Found this excellent video but then found on disassembly that all the fins of the rotor were sheared off! And yes, the ceramic rod was broken. So, had to buy the replacement impeller and immediately made this mod before installing, using the new ceramic one for exact measurement and saving it as a backup. It ran for about a day then quit working again. The new rotor had a piece of the plastic sheath covering the strong magnet missing. Perhaps I had not aligned it properly during installation or maybe some large debris caused it. So, I removed all the sheath, careful to not damage the ends. This was not easy by the way. Smoothed everything with sandpaper, reassembled, tested as before then reinstalled. All seems to be working fine - time will tell. Thank you, Bob!
Robert Badilla, thank you so much! You saved me from either buying a new pump or trashing the pool! Picked up the exact brass rod at lowes and it worked perfectly!
May 15, 2022 I just finished fixing my pool pump following your instructions. The problem was the ceramic rod, just like you said. It’s working perfectly!!! Thank you so, so much. Greetings from Poteet, Texas :)
Very helpful video! A pretty good symptom that it’s this problem is that if your pump is still running, it’ll make a heck of a lot more noise than usual
Omg, you saved us a boatload of money! We just knew it was the pump and was about to shell out almost $100! It was cheap, simple and quick! The only thing, we had to partially drain our pool because we didn't have a stopper, but that was no biggy! Thank you so much!!
Thank you for this. My pump did this within the first 3 days. Saved my sanity. Cheers man For those whose pumps arent working, the motor is completely encase so if your pump is not working its probably a 90%+ chance its this
I’m so happy I found your video. I snapped the rod but had no idea how to fix it. So bought a new one for $180. And after a few days the new one snapped. I was about to SNAP myself and then I found you! Thank you.
@@thebearshikingoutdoorsmans3060 ohhhh great idea!!! Ive been trying all kindd of different things from insukated copper wire to gang coat hangers! Lol
Thank you so much for this, we fixed ours today! I honestly didn't have high hopes of it working (not because of your advice, but because things generally don't work out so easily/cheap for us). I was so incredibly excited to see that water filtering through again! 🙌
I know the feeling all to well. Glad you got it going again. Keep the spare rod. Because the metal rod snaps as well. Just not as easy. If for some reason it doesn't work after replacement... Your rod may be too long (shave down) or the ends might not be smooth enough. Just grind on concrete floor if needed. Happy swimming
Bob, just wanted to say thank you again. We still had the remainder of our rod from last year and a couple weeks after setting up the pool this year, it snapped again. Even easier to fix than last year as the rod was on-hand. Your video is saving us year after year!
I want to thank you very very much for your video I fix my pool pump for 4 bucks instead of almost buying a new pool pump motor and I decided to watch UA-cam and see if anything was on there and I came across your video a million thank yous my friend. You just save me a hundred bucks
Our pump stopped, so my husband took the bottom off and found out the gear was getting stuck. Super simple fix and saved us $80. I hope it continues to work!
I had this problem today opened it up and my rod had water balloons n hair stuck on it. Took all that off my rod was not broken i put it all back in and it work just fine. Thanks your video help me alot. It all took me like 10min n got it back to work.
Thank you so much. $1.79 brass rod from Ace and I'm back in action. I had the broken spindle for a while. I knew it, but it kept running. Then yesterday the pump just seized up. I could hear it hum and could tell it was pulling some amperage, but the impeller was stopped. I tried to free it with my hand and it strongly flicked my fingers. Went to get the brass rod, and it's good to go! Thanks again.
I talked to a person that works for that company and they suggest to run the pump 6 hrs a day, to NOT use a timer and specially don't run it when ppl are swimming it makes the motor overwork, if you want to avoid buying another brass rod or motor and last a long time you need to follow the instructions:) but I really LIKE this video it saves a lot of money.... Thank u sir 🙂😉
So, I've had mine up since the end of May it recently stopped working and was just humming my ceramic rod was not broke but taking it apart and cleaning the pump out it self and taking all these parts off in this video actually just made it work again. So this video is very very helpful!!
Ours broke in 3 pieces after 8 HOURS of use, brand new out of the box! So it’s still happening with the same problems in 2020. Thank you so much!! Went to Lowe’s and got the exact same brass rod as well. Pump works just fine.
Awesome. Glad you fixed it. Those ceramic rods are garbage. I just had to replace my first brass rod. It lasted 3 full summers. 3 summers is definitely better than 8 hours. Lol. Just keep the extra rod for future repairs.
Thank you so much! So glad I found your video. My pump only ran for about 16 hours and the ceramic rod snapped. With all this Covid business every part for the pumps have become super expensive. You're a life saver! I thought our summer swimming was over!
Hi!! My pump wouldn't even power on this morning...I checked and the ceramic rod was broken. I just got back from Lowe's from purchasing th we item you showed on your receipt. I have a question...will the broken rod prevent it from even powering on...any type of power at all? This pump is barely 6 months old and has been working fine. I pray this piece helps!!
@@tonyadean6117 hi Tonya. With a broken rod, the pump should still power on. It won't physically turn, but there should by some sort of noise/vibration. My friend's pump had debris on the rod and it completely shut the pump down. My buddy thought it was electrically damaged. After cleaning the rod/pump, it fired right up. So it could possibly be the case for yours as well. Good luck.
@Bob Ganoosh I had to clean a lottle.bit of condensation down in the bottom of the housing...did the *brick* trick of smoothing the ends of the rod....It is working now!! I may have to dry out my pump *plug* housing...i see a little bit of condensation in the reset/test areas... So the hubs is going to do that for me!! Thank you SO so soooo much!! Wish I had found your video 3 new pumps ago!! Lol
Thank you so much for making this video and checking with the pool company!! I couldn’t for the life of me figure out why in the world my pump wasn’t working when it worked just fine last summer. I replaced my ceramic rod with this brass one and it works great. Thank you again so much!
And it’s done, mine cracked into 3 pieces, little tiny piece was in a upper rubber seal. I cut it on 3 5/16” length inserted and it’s working like new again, nice and quiet, thanks again😀🤛👍
So here we are during covid pandemic & if you can find a filter replacement...major price gouging going on, ugh! I came across your video and wad able to fix yhe pump! Big thank you!!!
Mine doesn't have a gasket, but there is 1 of 2 places where it can go. 1. Inside the locking ring for when it is sealed against the housing. Or 2. Around the base of the actual pump, where it sits against the housing to creat a seal. I hope that helps, if not, maybe someone else with a gasket can assist. Good luck.
Thank you sir! Thanks to inflation, 5 years later that $3.04 brass rod is now $6.48. Still much cheaper than replacing a pump, but pricing double in 5 years??? That's insane.
The best video yet on this pump and pool! Awesome! I also dropped the plug into the pool! We replaced the GFCI plug bc ours got wet and stopped working. But the pump is rattling and this might be why. Thank you!
Thank you for making this video!! Most helpful! I found the broken ceramic pin and I'm headed to Lowe's in the morning with a snapshot of your receipt w/ dimensions of the brass pin. You saved me so much time, aggravation and money. BLESS YOU !!😊
How did you get the black round rubber cover to stay to keep the water from flowing into the skimmer mine will not stay on. Thank you for this helpful video but ended up upgrading to a sand filter pump, definitely im spending less in chemicals and electricity. I still need to know how in the heck that rubber piece stays on...thanks again
Nice upgrade. If you leave the rubber cover on a flat surface sitting in the sun for an hour or 2, it really softens it up and allows it to hold better. Although not guaranteed, but better. Mine falls off occasionally as well.
3 days i have been trying to figure our where that plug went and just come across your video thanks… but what was the little rod Called you bought for the rotor motor? Thanks.
thank you. i was able to fix my pump after watching this video. the shaft and impeller had broken on mine so after buying those 2 pieces it was a quick fix.
@@sharonjohnson7152 I've actually bought 2. Both online. One was from ebay and the other was from the polygroup website.. but its getting harder to find the right impellers that don't cost half the price of the pool.
Also I commented at the end of the last summer so I didn't have to use it much at that time. Since opening the pool this year I bought the 2nd impeller and have went through probably 20 shafts. They keep wearing down after a few days so My husband ended up buying a stock of the brass and he cuts them to size and replaces it every few days when the pump quits working
Bob, thank you for the thorough explanation and R & I instriction. As an engineer, I can say that ferromagnetic steel would probably be a poor choice but a non-magnetic stainless alloy would probably hold up well. Understanding that Aluminum might be too weak in bending, I am wondering how the brass has held up.
I have the sfx600. It looks the same, the shaft was fine. Mine keeps tripping the gfci. I am wondering if the impeller is not spinning correctly causing it to trip. Thanks for the video!
If the GFCI keeps tripping, I wonder if you have another electronic item on that same circuit. Like something in the garage or even front porch. Even though outlets are separate, some could be on the same circuit causing an overload then tripping the gfci. If not that, then possibly debris (hair, leaves, bugs) might get into the rotor assembly. Hope that helps.
Thanks for the tip! Worked great! And saved a lot of $! Did notice our rod was 3in. And needed to make a little point at the end so it will stand up and rotate! Thanks so.much!
Ok my question is how do you get that bottom back on with it not leaking? I’m having trouble. I have a rubber ring too that goes around the pump in the canister but I can’t figure out how to stop it from leaking
Thank you, I was ging to buy another pump, we got three seasons out of the original. When the propeller is shot (no blades) does the power not work? I have zero power in the pump now that the blades are all broken.
In my experiences, I found that the pump loses power when the rotor assembly gets stuck/jammed by some sort of blockage (hair, leaves, debris). In this case, a small piece of plastic from the rotor blades could have found it's way inside. So try removing the entire assembly, cleaning and re-inserting. Then see if you have power. Ultimately, you are going to need a new rotor assembly. If it still doesn't power on, could be the GFCI cord. Hope that helps. Good luck .
Thank you for videoing this. I have the same pump, and it just started making a racket and the water isnt pushing out. I bet you this is exactly what's wrong with mine.
If you have the SFX1000, here are a few options. Hope this helps... summerbackyard.com/products/x1000-rotor-assembly www.polygroupstore.com/x1000_rotor_assembly_p/p58050505001.htm www.amazon.com/SUMMER-WAVES-Replacement-Assembly-P58050505/dp/B01DCIMBBM www.walmart.com/ip/Replacement-Rotor-Assembly-for-Summer-Waves-X1500-Pumps/540753167?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=4798&adid=22222222228000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9031627&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113842109&wl11=online&wl12=540753167&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAjw5cL2BRASEiwAENqAPuosuPJ23q_WpZiAvVfLJ9AbUff0YprhsZcIn_mQF7p9MTRm1odKbRoC6pIQAvD_BwE
Thank you!! Just to add on, i did not have the rubber stopper. You can make this repair without removing the pump if you dont mind getting your arm wet. Thanks again!!
Ours came with a rubber black circle ring for in the bottom where exactly is that suppose to be? Our filter is leaking water at the bottom seems like the ring may not be in the right spot or something.
I figured this out before watching this video but it clarified it. A week after buying the pool that little rod snapped and the manufacturer was going to honor the warranty and send a new pump but they wanted me to take a picture of the receipt and take a picture of the pump with the cord cut with scissors🤦🏾♂️ and they would deliver one in ten days
@@millermatic140 what you should do is use the pump for this summer, than at the end of the season, cash in on the warranty and get the new pump 👍. Good luck
Thank you for posting this! is there a washer at the bottom part of the pump where the impeller sits? I don't see one if they are I see the ceramic one at the top? Thank you again for posting this fix!
😢 im gonna need the entire rotor as mine just stopped taking in water emptied out the skimmer and found 4 pcs broken pcs that look like they go to that propeller looking thing. On another note your video will now help me just take apart the entire thing and replace that rotor unit thanks!!
@@bobganoosh5520 thanks! now i see that they sell the entire rotor however what is actually broken is the propeller looking things is that pc alone replaceable?
@@lisettemedina4536 I see they do sell certain impeller by themselves, which shows certain rotor assemblies are capable of swapping out the broken impeller. But I don't know if that requires a special tool or if it applies to your model pool pump.
@@bobganoosh5520 I see! Ok I think my best route is to just get the entire pc and call it a day I believe Amazon has one for about 40 bucks I just hope It will fit into my SFX 1500+ unit although reviews do say it does! Wish me luck!!! 🙏
Some mechanical type people are willing to look into why something failed, and a little investigation is all that it takes sometimes to discover what the problem is/was. This is what I did because I knew it would be at least a 100 buck to get a new pump and an 2 hour drive to get one. Glad I found this video. My first attempt to fix the pump I tried an old drill bit, but i knew it would eventually rust (not good). So I did exactly as this video suggested and pump works fine again.
Thanks for your video you really saved us. During covid-19 it's hard to get anything and the pool is something the kids can do. We able to fix ours with a steel pin my husband found in the garage. AWESOME 👍
Awesome. Glad to hear. I would suggest checking the steel pin a few times throughout the summer just to verify it doesn't rust/corrode. Not sure how steel does in the water. Happy swimming 👍
I'm having trouble with my pool not circulating water well, it sucks slow do you think this could be my problem? I may take it apart to check it out, after my kids swim.
If the rod was broken, the pump would not circulate at all. If there is some suction and the pump is functioning, there must be some blockage. Just try cleaning it out first and verifying there aren't any leaves, bugs or twigs that are blocking the inlet or discharge. Good luck.
Let me take a look, it was on the elite summer waves pool i had to get a new one this year. Its a little different from the pump shown(I also have that one i saved it from my trash pool. )
It goes on the inside of the pool. Over the inlet of the filtration system. You might have to let the plug sit in the sun for a bit to flatten out. That's if it has any kind of bend in it. Good luck.
The pump is one unit. So the only order is to stick the pump into the housing/canister. Just have to make sure you line up the discharge of the pump to the outlet of the canister. There should be a notch to help line everything up. The tricky part is holding the pump still so you can properly thread the locking ring. Hope that helps
I was about to buy a pump for 180.00 but then i saw this video. Im going to try ro fix my pump this weekend ill let you know the results. Im excited for this 4 dollar fix vs 180
Hi Monica. The motor would still turn on if the ceramic rod was broken. These motors will not turn on when they get stuck with debris. All it takes is a strand of hair or a little leaf and it can lock these motors up, making you think it's an electrical problem or fried motor. When it's most likely not. If you have the capability, open it up and clean it out. Hopefully that solves your problem. Let me know how it goes.
Another person was having a similar issue. There was no trick for me. Just didn't get on camera because I needed both hands and had to pause the camera. Just continue spinning in or maybe try pushing it while gripping with the players.
So this might be a silly question but the black mat that came with the pool to stop the water from going to the pump so that you could take it apart I cannot get mine to stay in that hole how did you do that because I really don't want to have to drain the water below the pump?
If there's bo noise, first check plug and make sure the gfci didn't trip. You can even check the fuse box/panel. Also, you can plug in another electronics item to verify power. If that checks out, then take pump apart and clean. A single strand of hair can take these pumps out of service. Good luck.
@@bobganoosh5520 thank you. Did all that, has power because the light is lit, I just chalked it up to the end of that crappy little pump, and ordered a new one.
Are you running it dry? Put it back in the housing if so and try. I wonder if the rotor assembly isn't seated properly. Try repositioning it. Other people were expressing difficulty putting it back into place. That's the only thing i can think of art the moment. I'll let you know if I come across another
My pool isn’t putting any water through the tubing back into the pool. Sounds like this may be the issue. I don’t know how to take the pool pump apart at all though.😩
All it really is, is unscrewing the locking ring on the housing/canister then the locking ring on top of the actual pump. Dive right in, you'll find it's much easier then you think.
I just got my kids a pool last month and the pump just stopped yesterday! The humming it was doing makes sense now! Thank you for the step by step video I'm going to try this tommorow.
I can’t thank you enough for making this video. Not only did it solve the problem, but your explanation was clear and thorough…I was even able to get the product number from your Lowe’s receipt! For anyone who’s interested, it’s 44748 for 1/8” brass rod
Glad it helped. Happy swimming.
Ralph, did ur water test come back to show high metal?
This video is a definitely a money saver. I was getting ready to purchase a new pump, no need to now. Thank you!
I bought my pool last summer and only used it for 2 months and this summer for about 2 as well and my pump stopped working and it was humming but not working so I found you're video as I was searching to try to fix my problem and I purchased the brass round and cut it to size and boom it's working great now ty so much for you're video now I can enjoy the rest of the summer. I contacted the polygroup company that makes my pool and they would not replace the pump or the rotor assembly as the warranty was for 6 months even tho I didn't use it for that long. I paid almost 600 dollars for it plus chemicals, sand and everything I needed to set it up. I won't purchase a pool from them again I will get a better pool next summer. Again ty so much for you're video without it I would be spending about 40 bucks for the rotor assembly and now everything is just peachy :) :)
Glad this helped you and you were able to repair the pump. Have fun 🍻
I'm so glad I found this video! That piece of brass is $6.99 now but totally fixed my pump today! You're a life saver!
Thank you so much for this video! I was going to go out and buy a $200 pump and I decided to give your fix a try but didn't think it would work because I'm not very handy when it comes to fixing things, but sure enough it worked great! My Canadian Tire sells the Hillman 1/8 inch x 36 inch brass rod (but that brand is not listed on the online site) and I just took it to their auto service desk and asked if they had wire cutters to cut it to exactly 3 5/16" (8.41 cm) and they cut me a couple pieces. I didn't take the bottom piece off of the pump because I couldn't get it off so I just unplugged the pump and worked from the top pulling that magnet out with my fingers and doing the rest of your steps. I cleaned out all the debris from the blades and I put the flattest piece of the brass rod at the bottom of the pump and the top was cut a little crooked so I did what you suggested and sanded it down a little bit on concrete to smooth the edge. The pump works better than it has in a long time! For those of you that are having trouble getting the black round stopper plug to seal the sidewall pool hole while working on the pump just put Vaseline around the edge of that plug and it sticks in place nicely. Thank you again for this awesome money saving video!
Glad it helped. Nice tip with the Vaseline 👍🏼
Rob, my friend - you just saved the rest of my summer! Can't thank you enough for your video. I'm pretty handy, but I gotta admit - knowing I had to deal with a pool pump was an 'Oh s**t' moment. So easy. Well done. From my whole family here in Long Island, NY.....THANK YOU!!
Glad to hear the video helped you out. Great job on fixing it yourself 👍
I bought my Summer Waves pool last year and had no problems with the sfx1000 pump all season. I went to open my pool this year and the pump would start to turn on, but wouldn't. I took everything apart thinking it was a broken pin (mine looks to be plastic) and the pin looked totally fine! Upon a closer look though, the top end of the pin is just barely rounded on the edges. So I figured I'd take a chance and flip it and put the good side on top. It started working immediately! Thanks for the great video info and comments from everyone!
Most useful video on UA-cam ever.
Ha ha. Appreciate the support. Have fun in your pool 👍
@@bobganoosh5520 went to Lowe's, they did not have it. Maybe HD I'll try but thx so much because I wasn't sure if the shaft was broken but after seeing your video I checked it and sure enough one end was smooth the other was jagged and slightly sharp. So, you Da man!
Its so EASY and it WORKS! I am not (but becoming) a handy housewife and this saved us $170. Our 2nd pump just broke and I was ready to buy another one because I didn't know what else to do. I watched this video earlier this afternoon spent $1.59 for the brass rod, worked on the pump for about 15-20 mins and now my pump is working as good or better than new. Thank you so much! Great advice and great video.
Glad it helped you out. Thanks for the positive feedback 👍.
Old pin was snapped Put the new pin in turned it on it hummed for a few seconds no water pumped then nothing, Prior to the new pin it would at least go on. It was worth a try but this is a piece of sh*t . When you start looking for new pump parts etc after 4 months and see so many people with the same issues well like I said, POS. Thank you for the video very kind of you to help people out.
Part 2: edited the next day
OK next day I took it apart again. I must have done something wrong with top washer for 1 thing. Also in video I didn't realize at bottom of shaft there is a washer. I also had a shaft from a pool from several years ago. I cut it to recommended size and started over.
Boom ! Pump kicked in immediately and works better than ever. HUGE SAVINGS as I was not thrilled about buying new pump at almost what the pool cost.
However this does not change my thoughts as stated above re: this thing : It still is a POS when you need to replace pump parts after a few months . It's common as we see here. Fortunately I and others were very lucky to find this video !!
Thanks again for this video.
2nd season of use and my pump ran for about a week then, as described, just the “hum” of the motor and no water flow. Found this excellent video but then found on disassembly that all the fins of the rotor were sheared off! And yes, the ceramic rod was broken. So, had to buy the replacement impeller and immediately made this mod before installing, using the new ceramic one for exact measurement and saving it as a backup. It ran for about a day then quit working again.
The new rotor had a piece of the plastic sheath covering the strong magnet missing. Perhaps I had not aligned it properly during installation or maybe some large debris caused it. So, I removed all the sheath, careful to not damage the ends. This was not easy by the way. Smoothed everything with sandpaper, reassembled, tested as before then reinstalled. All seems to be working fine - time will tell.
Thank you, Bob!
Great troubleshooting on your part. Hope out lasts for you this time 👍
Robert Badilla, thank you so much! You saved me from either buying a new pump or trashing the pool! Picked up the exact brass rod at lowes and it worked perfectly!
Glad to hear. Great job on the fix 👍
Mine will only spin a few seconds then stops again
YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!! That saved me from a $180.00 purchase!!!! Followed your instructions and like a charm worked right away! Thanks for the info!!!!
Awesome job. Glad it helped you out
I have bought multiple replacement pumps before getting sick of it and I just fixed every one of them with this video lol! Thank you!!!!
May 15, 2022
I just finished fixing my pool pump following your instructions. The problem was the ceramic rod, just like you said.
It’s working perfectly!!!
Thank you so, so much. Greetings from Poteet, Texas :)
That's awesome. Glad it helped. Happy swimming.
Very helpful video! A pretty good symptom that it’s this problem is that if your pump is still running, it’ll make a heck of a lot more noise than usual
Omg, you saved us a boatload of money! We just knew it was the pump and was about to shell out almost $100! It was cheap, simple and quick! The only thing, we had to partially drain our pool because we didn't have a stopper, but that was no biggy! Thank you so much!!
Thank you for this. My pump did this within the first 3 days. Saved my sanity. Cheers man
For those whose pumps arent working, the motor is completely encase so if your pump is not working its probably a 90%+ chance its this
I’m so happy I found your video. I snapped the rod but had no idea how to fix it. So bought a new one for $180. And after a few days the new one snapped. I was about to SNAP myself and then I found you! Thank you.
Cut the end off the top of a fiberglass fishing rod, it's the same diameter as the ceramic rod
@@thebearshikingoutdoorsmans3060 ohhhh great idea!!! Ive been trying all kindd of different things from insukated copper wire to gang coat hangers! Lol
Thank you so much for this, we fixed ours today! I honestly didn't have high hopes of it working (not because of your advice, but because things generally don't work out so easily/cheap for us). I was so incredibly excited to see that water filtering through again! 🙌
I know the feeling all to well. Glad you got it going again. Keep the spare rod. Because the metal rod snaps as well. Just not as easy. If for some reason it doesn't work after replacement... Your rod may be too long (shave down) or the ends might not be smooth enough. Just grind on concrete floor if needed. Happy swimming
Bob, just wanted to say thank you again. We still had the remainder of our rod from last year and a couple weeks after setting up the pool this year, it snapped again. Even easier to fix than last year as the rod was on-hand. Your video is saving us year after year!
I want to thank you very very much for your video I fix my pool pump for 4 bucks instead of almost buying a new pool pump motor and I decided to watch UA-cam and see if anything was on there and I came across your video a million thank yous my friend. You just save me a hundred bucks
Our pump stopped, so my husband took the bottom off and found out the gear was getting stuck. Super simple fix and saved us $80. I hope it continues to work!
Awesome. Happy swimming.
I had this problem today opened it up and my rod had water balloons n hair stuck on it. Took all that off my rod was not broken i put it all back in and it work just fine. Thanks your video help me alot. It all took me like 10min n got it back to work.
Good find. I tell people, 1 strand of hair can lock these pumps up. Happy swimming.
Thank you so much. $1.79 brass rod from Ace and I'm back in action. I had the broken spindle for a while. I knew it, but it kept running. Then yesterday the pump just seized up. I could hear it hum and could tell it was pulling some amperage, but the impeller was stopped. I tried to free it with my hand and it strongly flicked my fingers. Went to get the brass rod, and it's good to go! Thanks again.
THANK YOU!! Saved me a lot of headache and buying a new pump.
I talked to a person that works for that company and they suggest to run the pump 6 hrs a day, to NOT use a timer and specially don't run it when ppl are swimming it makes the motor overwork, if you want to avoid buying another brass rod or motor and last a long time you need to follow the instructions:) but I really LIKE this video it saves a lot of money.... Thank u sir 🙂😉
Great info. Thanks for sharing. Hopefully others read this as well.
So, I've had mine up since the end of May it recently stopped working and was just humming my ceramic rod was not broke but taking it apart and cleaning the pump out it self and taking all these parts off in this video actually just made it work again. So this video is very very helpful!!
That's great news. Glad it helped you. All it takes is a single strand of hair to lock these pumps up. Nice job 👍
Ours broke in 3 pieces after 8 HOURS of use, brand new out of the box! So it’s still happening with the same problems in 2020. Thank you so much!! Went to Lowe’s and got the exact same brass rod as well. Pump works just fine.
Awesome. Glad you fixed it. Those ceramic rods are garbage. I just had to replace my first brass rod. It lasted 3 full summers. 3 summers is definitely better than 8 hours. Lol. Just keep the extra rod for future repairs.
Thank you so much! So glad I found your video. My pump only ran for about 16 hours and the ceramic rod snapped. With all this Covid business every part for the pumps have become super expensive. You're a life saver! I thought our summer swimming was over!
Wooohoooo. Glad you were able to fix it.
Hi!! My pump wouldn't even power on this morning...I checked and the ceramic rod was broken. I just got back from Lowe's from purchasing th we item you showed on your receipt. I have a question...will the broken rod prevent it from even powering on...any type of power at all? This pump is barely 6 months old and has been working fine. I pray this piece helps!!
@@tonyadean6117 hi Tonya. With a broken rod, the pump should still power on. It won't physically turn, but there should by some sort of noise/vibration. My friend's pump had debris on the rod and it completely shut the pump down. My buddy thought it was electrically damaged. After cleaning the rod/pump, it fired right up. So it could possibly be the case for yours as well. Good luck.
@Bob Ganoosh
I had to clean a lottle.bit of condensation down in the bottom of the housing...did the *brick* trick of smoothing the ends of the rod....It is working now!! I may have to dry out my pump *plug* housing...i see a little bit of condensation in the reset/test areas...
So the hubs is going to do that for me!! Thank you SO so soooo much!! Wish I had found your video 3 new pumps ago!! Lol
I did it Bob; with your help of coarse😉.
🤞 That it'll hold up. Thank you from a momma of four married to a man who makes me do everything myself.
Still working....
The brass piece snapped and so did 2 rotor blades. Im bummed.
This works!! Visited my local Fastenal, bought the rod, cut to specifications notes in the video description and the pumped worked!! Thank you!!
Awesome. Glad to hear. 👍
I did this and it worked. It was amazing. Thanks so much for sharing this.
Thank you so much for making this video and checking with the pool company!! I couldn’t for the life of me figure out why in the world my pump wasn’t working when it worked just fine last summer. I replaced my ceramic rod with this brass one and it works great. Thank you again so much!
Awesome. Glad I could assist.
I was getting ready to buy a new pump til I came across your video. Thankful I did!
And it’s done, mine cracked into 3 pieces, little tiny piece was in a upper rubber seal. I cut it on 3 5/16” length inserted and it’s working like new again, nice and quiet, thanks again😀🤛👍
Thank you for this information. You just saved me 96.00 I was able to fix for 1.58
So here we are during covid pandemic & if you can find a filter replacement...major price gouging going on, ugh! I came across your video and wad able to fix yhe pump! Big thank you!!!
Glad it helped you 👍
Thank you Bob! Replaced it, and the pump is better than new! You saved me $100++
Awesome. Keep the excess/spare rod. Even though its metal, can stil break again. Happy swimming.
You are a lifesaver !! Followed every step and the pimp is no working !!! So cool !
Ha ha. Nice work 👍
Thanks brotha! Excellent breakdown of everything. You saved us all so much money. You the real MVP!
Glad to assist, my friend! Cheers.
Thank you. This really saved the day
Thank you Sr!! you saved me more than $150..easy and cheap fix..
Awesome. Glad you were able to fix your pump.
3.56 fix. Thank you so much. Perfect fix
Stupid Question here 🤦♂️
I had to take mine apart, but I forgot to take notice where the gasket was supposed to go.
Could you tell me where it goes?
Mine doesn't have a gasket, but there is 1 of 2 places where it can go.
1. Inside the locking ring for when it is sealed against the housing. Or
2. Around the base of the actual pump, where it sits against the housing to creat a seal.
I hope that helps, if not, maybe someone else with a gasket can assist. Good luck.
Thank you sir! Thanks to inflation, 5 years later that $3.04 brass rod is now $6.48. Still much cheaper than replacing a pump, but pricing double in 5 years??? That's insane.
The best video yet on this pump and pool! Awesome! I also dropped the plug into the pool! We replaced the GFCI plug bc ours got wet and stopped working. But the pump is rattling and this might be why. Thank you!
How do you replace the plug? I see condensation in mine and it won’t turn on
Thank you for making this video!! Most helpful! I found the broken ceramic pin and I'm headed to Lowe's in the morning with a snapshot of your receipt w/ dimensions of the brass pin. You saved me so much time, aggravation and money. BLESS YOU !!😊
Glad to help. Happy swimming.
How did you get the black round rubber cover to stay to keep the water from flowing into the skimmer mine will not stay on. Thank you for this helpful video but ended up upgrading to a sand filter pump, definitely im spending less in chemicals and electricity. I still need to know how in the heck that rubber piece stays on...thanks again
Nice upgrade. If you leave the rubber cover on a flat surface sitting in the sun for an hour or 2, it really softens it up and allows it to hold better. Although not guaranteed, but better. Mine falls off occasionally as well.
I want to punch the 48 people who downvoted this video in the face. Great video and saved a bunch of people money.
3 days i have been trying to figure our where that plug went and just come across your video thanks… but what was the little rod
Called you bought for the rotor motor? Thanks.
Thank you for this video! The ceramic pin broke off in the rubber tab inside the housing. It was only 1/4” in. Used the brass rod and fixed the issue!
Awesome. Happy swimming
thank you. i was able to fix my pump after watching this video. the shaft and impeller had broken on mine so after buying those 2 pieces it was a quick fix.
Awesome. Nice job 👍
Where did you buy the impeller?
@@sharonjohnson7152 I've actually bought 2. Both online. One was from ebay and the other was from the polygroup website.. but its getting harder to find the right impellers that don't cost half the price of the pool.
Also I commented at the end of the last summer so I didn't have to use it much at that time. Since opening the pool this year I bought the 2nd impeller and have went through probably 20 shafts. They keep wearing down after a few days so My husband ended up buying a stock of the brass and he cuts them to size and replaces it every few days when the pump quits working
Thanks for the info Lauren! All I have seen is the whole motor for $126. and people are mentioning a $30. impeller.
Bob, thank you for the thorough explanation and R & I instriction. As an engineer, I can say that ferromagnetic steel would probably be a poor choice but a non-magnetic stainless alloy would probably hold up well. Understanding that Aluminum might be too weak in bending, I am wondering how the brass has held up.
After a season and a half the brass is in great condition, and the pump is running strong 👍
Thats one thing i was worried about when searching for something to use as a rod. The magnet im mine is sooo strong
I have the sfx600. It looks the same, the shaft was fine. Mine keeps tripping the gfci. I am wondering if the impeller is not spinning correctly causing it to trip. Thanks for the video!
If the GFCI keeps tripping, I wonder if you have another electronic item on that same circuit. Like something in the garage or even front porch. Even though outlets are separate, some could be on the same circuit causing an overload then tripping the gfci. If not that, then possibly debris (hair, leaves, bugs) might get into the rotor assembly. Hope that helps.
Thanks for the tip! Worked great! And saved a lot of $! Did notice our rod was 3in. And needed to make a little point at the end so it will stand up and rotate! Thanks so.much!
What was the thickness of the rod?
Thank you sir.You saved me time and money.
have you had any trouble with the brass rod being "eaten" away almost as if there is something grinding away at it?
Not at all. Have had 2 snap at the ends. But no corrosion. Try stainless steel. Nit sure what that does to watet chemistry though
thanks i took a pic of your lowe's bill got the rod to repair my pump.
Sweezy. Good luck.
I did the same thing and found the part it was the last one.
Really stupid question, but is there an on off switch on this pump, or should it come on by just plugging it in?
How do you get the rotor to sit flat again? I can’t get it to go all the way down. Please help! Great Video by the way.
I can’t get mine to sit flat either :(
Thank you! Saved me $100 today!
Glad this helped. Happy swimming.
Thank you so much for this video!! Saved us from buying a new pump!!
So glad it helped you out. Great job on fixing it yourself 👍
Thank you for this video.. very good explanation on how to fix the problem I think my filter has.
Hope it solves your filter/pump problem. Good luck 👍
Ok my question is how do you get that bottom back on with it not leaking? I’m having trouble. I have a rubber ring too that goes around the pump in the canister but I can’t figure out how to stop it from leaking
Thank you, I was ging to buy another pump, we got three seasons out of the original. When the propeller is shot (no blades) does the power not work? I have zero power in the pump now that the blades are all broken.
In my experiences, I found that the pump loses power when the rotor assembly gets stuck/jammed by some sort of blockage (hair, leaves, debris). In this case, a small piece of plastic from the rotor blades could have found it's way inside. So try removing the entire assembly, cleaning and re-inserting. Then see if you have power. Ultimately, you are going to need a new rotor assembly. If it still doesn't power on, could be the GFCI cord. Hope that helps. Good luck .
Thank you for videoing this. I have the same pump, and it just started making a racket and the water isnt pushing out. I bet you this is exactly what's wrong with mine.
Yeah you are probably right. Good luck, hope it's an easy fix for ya. 👍
@@bobganoosh5520 thank you again! Awesome video. Really appreciate it!
Have you ever had problems with the power tripping as soon as you turn it on?
GREAT video!!!! Just did this today and my pump is going strong!!! Thank you so much 🤝👍
Awesome. Happy swimming.
great fix, I'm going to Lowes right now, thank you :)
Awesome. Good luck on the fix 👍🏼
My blades are destroy, just got 3 of 6, you know where I get just the blades? Thanks a nice video my shaft its split on 2
If you have the SFX1000, here are a few options. Hope this helps...
summerbackyard.com/products/x1000-rotor-assembly
www.polygroupstore.com/x1000_rotor_assembly_p/p58050505001.htm
www.amazon.com/SUMMER-WAVES-Replacement-Assembly-P58050505/dp/B01DCIMBBM
www.walmart.com/ip/Replacement-Rotor-Assembly-for-Summer-Waves-X1500-Pumps/540753167?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=4798&adid=22222222228000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9031627&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113842109&wl11=online&wl12=540753167&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAjw5cL2BRASEiwAENqAPuosuPJ23q_WpZiAvVfLJ9AbUff0YprhsZcIn_mQF7p9MTRm1odKbRoC6pIQAvD_BwE
Looks nice, thanks!
Thank you!! Just to add on, i did not have the rubber stopper. You can make this repair without removing the pump if you dont mind getting your arm wet. Thanks again!!
Great video.Thank you mate.
Ours came with a rubber black circle ring for in the bottom where exactly is that suppose to be? Our filter is leaking water at the bottom seems like the ring may not be in the right spot or something.
You are the man. Saved me $160
Found a prepacked 6inch piece for $2.70 at Lowe’s
Glad to hear. Great job on the fix!
I figured this out before watching this video but it clarified it. A week after buying the pool that little rod snapped and the manufacturer was going to honor the warranty and send a new pump but they wanted me to take a picture of the receipt and take a picture of the pump with the cord cut with scissors🤦🏾♂️ and they would deliver one in ten days
That's a lot of work to honor a dang warranty.
Exactly
@@millermatic140 what you should do is use the pump for this summer, than at the end of the season, cash in on the warranty and get the new pump 👍. Good luck
Thank you for posting this! is there a washer at the bottom part of the pump where the impeller sits? I don't see one if they are I see the ceramic one at the top? Thank you again for posting this fix!
There wasn't a washer for mine.
Thanks that was super helpful! Life saver.
How do I know if it's the power plug or the pump itself I'm getting no power to the plug at all
Very informative video. Thanks for posting; It helped me a lot!
Glad to hear 👍
😢 im gonna need the entire rotor as mine just stopped taking in water emptied out the skimmer and found 4 pcs broken pcs that look like they go to that propeller looking thing. On another note your video will now help me just take apart the entire thing and replace that rotor unit thanks!!
Ahhhhh, bummer. Good luck. Let me know if you need help finding a replacement. Good luck .
@@bobganoosh5520 thanks! now i see that they sell the entire rotor however what is actually broken is the propeller looking things is that pc alone replaceable?
@@lisettemedina4536 I see they do sell certain impeller by themselves, which shows certain rotor assemblies are capable of swapping out the broken impeller. But I don't know if that requires a special tool or if it applies to your model pool pump.
@@bobganoosh5520 I see! Ok I think my best route is to just get the entire pc and call it a day I believe Amazon has one for about 40 bucks I just hope It will fit into my SFX 1500+ unit although reviews do say it does! Wish me luck!!! 🙏
@@lisettemedina4536 definitely. Just verify that they do returns in case it doesn't fit. Hopefully your up and swimming soon 👍
THANKS BRO...YOU SAVED SUMMER AND SAVED ME MONEY. I WAD GONNA COUGH UP THE 200 FOR NEW PUMP....ONCE AGAIN, THANKS
Hell yeah. Fo sho, partna. Happy swimming.
Wow...this is a great money saver...great video!
How did you know it needed repaired?
Some mechanical type people are willing to look into why something failed, and a little investigation is all that it takes sometimes to discover what the problem is/was. This is what I did because I knew it would be at least a 100 buck to get a new pump and an 2 hour drive to get one. Glad I found this video. My first attempt to fix the pump I tried an old drill bit, but i knew it would eventually rust (not good). So I did exactly as this video suggested and pump works fine again.
Thanks for your video you really saved us. During covid-19 it's hard to get anything and the pool is something the kids can do. We able to fix ours with a steel pin my husband found in the garage. AWESOME 👍
Awesome. Glad to hear. I would suggest checking the steel pin a few times throughout the summer just to verify it doesn't rust/corrode. Not sure how steel does in the water. Happy swimming 👍
Mine did the same dam thing I just upgraded to a intex sand filter its awesome pool has never looked so clear
Awesome. I wouldn't mind having a sand filter system.
@@bobganoosh5520 I found mine on Facebook market place at end of summer for 25 dollars works awesome pool has never looked so good
@@sandstonefarm5722 awesome. That's super cheap 👍
I'm having trouble with my pool not circulating water well, it sucks slow do you think this could be my problem? I may take it apart to check it out, after my kids swim.
If the rod was broken, the pump would not circulate at all. If there is some suction and the pump is functioning, there must be some blockage. Just try cleaning it out first and verifying there aren't any leaves, bugs or twigs that are blocking the inlet or discharge. Good luck.
@@bobganoosh5520 do you have any idea about the newest model pump, zfx 1500 I believe is what it is.
@@LindaMarie_ do you mean sfx as opposed to zfx? I believe they are very similar to my pump. Just stronger motor.
Let me take a look, it was on the elite summer waves pool i had to get a new one this year. Its a little different from the pump shown(I also have that one i saved it from my trash pool. )
Its the sfx1500 model.
Dude I’m stuck just trying to put the plug in to stop the water! How do you put this flat plug on!?
It goes on the inside of the pool. Over the inlet of the filtration system. You might have to let the plug sit in the sun for a bit to flatten out. That's if it has any kind of bend in it. Good luck.
Ty , u saved our pool party
Awesome. I'm on my way. I love a good pool party 👍
This was great man. Saved me about $150.
Sweezy. Glad to assist 👍
My question - what the order of assembly when putting back pump into canister.
The pump is one unit. So the only order is to stick the pump into the housing/canister. Just have to make sure you line up the discharge of the pump to the outlet of the canister. There should be a notch to help line everything up. The tricky part is holding the pump still so you can properly thread the locking ring. Hope that helps
I was about to buy a pump for 180.00 but then i saw this video. Im going to try ro fix my pump this weekend ill let you know the results. Im excited for this 4 dollar fix vs 180
Awesome. Good luck 👍
Did u fix yours? What was wrong? We're looking for solutions
Mine won’t even turn on. I am a single mom. Could it be the ceramic rod or is the motor just burnt out?
Hi Monica. The motor would still turn on if the ceramic rod was broken. These motors will not turn on when they get stuck with debris. All it takes is a strand of hair or a little leaf and it can lock these motors up, making you think it's an electrical problem or fried motor. When it's most likely not. If you have the capability, open it up and clean it out. Hopefully that solves your problem. Let me know how it goes.
Thank you. This video helped me out alot
Glad to assist
Having a problem dropping the propeller completely down evenly into the center. Is there a trick to it. Ive benn working on it for hours.
Another person was having a similar issue. There was no trick for me. Just didn't get on camera because I needed both hands and had to pause the camera. Just continue spinning in or maybe try pushing it while gripping with the players.
So this might be a silly question but the black mat that came with the pool to stop the water from going to the pump so that you could take it apart I cannot get mine to stay in that hole how did you do that because I really don't want to have to drain the water below the pump?
I am thinking this might be what ails my pool. The pump is not making any noise at all though, could this still be it?
If there's bo noise, first check plug and make sure the gfci didn't trip. You can even check the fuse box/panel. Also, you can plug in another electronics item to verify power. If that checks out, then take pump apart and clean. A single strand of hair can take these pumps out of service. Good luck.
@@bobganoosh5520 thank you. Did all that, has power because the light is lit, I just chalked it up to the end of that crappy little pump, and ordered a new one.
I did everything you did exactly and got the pump working but it still sounds like it has rocks in it. Any thoughts?
Are you running it dry? Put it back in the housing if so and try. I wonder if the rotor assembly isn't seated properly. Try repositioning it. Other people were expressing difficulty putting it back into place. That's the only thing i can think of art the moment. I'll let you know if I come across another
Bob Ganoosh ok. Thank you
My pool isn’t putting any water through the tubing back into the pool. Sounds like this may be the issue. I don’t know how to take the pool pump apart at all though.😩
All it really is, is unscrewing the locking ring on the housing/canister then the locking ring on top of the actual pump. Dive right in, you'll find it's much easier then you think.
I just got this pool yesterday.I am doing this mod before I even set it up.Thanks for the advice.
Let it ride. Your ceramic piece may not break. But if it does, you'll know how to fix👍
Use the top section of a fiberglass fishing rod cut to fit it's works better
I just got my kids a pool last month and the pump just stopped yesterday! The humming it was doing makes sense now! Thank you for the step by step video I'm going to try this tommorow.
Just the perfect video that I needed to see, thx so much!
Glad it was able to help you out.
So yes, I misunderstood the ceramic rod for the brass. Me fix it .