Noodler's Triple Tail Fountain Pen with Flex Nib Review
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2020
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This is why I really enjoy your reviews, you are as objective as possible. I know excactly what to expect when I receive a new pen, the good and the not so good 🙄. Thank you.
A great pen. Love that triple tine nib. I dragged mine out after many weeks of hibernation and it wrote well after a few flex exercises. Always use a Noodlers purple ink as I find it adds to the quality of the experience. A review I will save - thank you.
It's been a while since I watched your reviews, but now I realize the disservice to was doing to myself. Thanks for your honest feelings and objectivity.
I appreciate a honest and objective review.Thank you.I enjoy my Tripple Tail.👍
I'm glad you did this review, this seems a really interesting pen!
Came here after the >. Pelly'Kan love fest you and Azizah did (I do what I'm told...got myself a BB for my M800 from your pal Rolf at missing-pen.de, hell of a guy!).
Outstanding review and mirrors my experience with the pen. Can't believe you tossed a pen in the bin; do you mean metaphorically/nominally? You held back, a bit testy there methinks? And why not, sir? Heavens, get that man a reee-fund. No way a pen mfr should not replace or seller/dealer refund. As a user, feel the same about buying a vintage pen that proves an inkless waif, a stinker (unless its sold as parts pen or listed as defective). Caveat emptor has its limits. If in first month and after I do some amateur whispering the thing won't write, honor the transaction and keep me as a customer.
Thank you for the integrity and positive energy of your reviews. You are a great friend to all of us ink-stained wretches.
The new hair style and beard trim looks very professional. Good job. 👍
I have quite a few pens and believe that I only have one Noodlers pen. Although, I have quite a few Noodlers inks. I would appreciate learning which of their inks damaged your pens so that I can avoid the same result. For that matter, I believe that a segment on inks that tend to damage or create pen problems would be very useful and appreciated.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks Steven. Great review!
Excellent review Stephen. It's great to see a Noodler's pen write well.
Respect for the Herzog Mandalorian reference! :-)
This is a good review - thank you. I got a Triple Tail when they came out and my experience has been the same as yours. I am very happy with it.
I recently got mine and am quite fond of this pen!
Also, regarding eyedropping, Nathan Tardif recommends that one doesn't do it because of the problems it would cause at low capacity. The self-filler fills quite a large amount as it is.
And you can use it to prime the pen if need be if you flex enough to ink starve it, which us impossible with ink dropped pen.
@@martinlebl631 Do you not cap & flick? I've never primed a pen with the converter's mechanism, not to mention many cartridges are far too hard to squeeze them to prime.
To be clear, there's no judgement here I just don't see that specific drawback as a genuine consideration.
I'm not impressed. I keep having issues with ink flow. Took me a bit to figure out why but the center tine is getting caught on the side tines.
Thank you! Getting one immediately!
Very accurate critique as ever! I’m now looking forward to seeing the review by the “Flex Goddess”
This is the only model of a Noodler's pen that I don't have. The 308 refillable cartridges are great. I have a package of 10 to be used if I can ever travel again. I am currently running one in my Neponset and another in one of my Ahabs and so far, they perform at least as good as the converter. I've been planning on getting a Triple Tail for a while now but have to wait until my pen budget recovers from my last purchase first. I have no doubts now that I will love it. Thanks for making the effort to acquire and then review this pen.
I have been using Triple Tail for almost a year now and I came to the same conclusions as you did. At that time the price was a bit higher I think. I bought mine in Europe for almost €80.
Yes, it writes nicely like a western and it flexes easily up to a or even with very little effort.
On the down side, when flexed it puts on paper so much ink that Rhodia paper sometimes can't handle (I use Diamine inks), so you can imagine what happens with cheap copy paper !
The other negative is that after a week or so the ink evaporates from the converter - better than Creaper, but still there.
I didn't notice anything about the odour - may be the warm climate in southern Europe makes it go away quickly.
All in all I like a lot this pen !
Thank you for the very interesting review Stephen.
Hi. I would like to if the TT under no pressure for normal writing, writes as broad as a Lamy broad which is a little thick for my taste. If it writes something between medium and broad Lamy Safari it will be great. Can I have your comments please?
@@constantinosthrasyvoulou2553 yes, normal writing is somewhere between western medium and broad (more closely to medium), but also rather a not one of the most pleasent nibs I've met, although quite soft. Very wet too. The ink evaporates after a week if you don't use it regularly.
@@korax67 Thanks very very much for your quick reply. This is very helpful 😀
I'm very tempted to get one of these. I write music notation and, while using a stub is better than a generic nib or a r*llerb*ll, I've been looking to try a proper music nib but cannot find any at a viable price point so far. I wouldn't expect the triple tail nib to behave exactly like a true music nib, but it would be an interesting exercise.
Excellent review. Thanks.
Glad to hear you had a positive experience. I was hopeful, but just re-homed my fire hose. Without pressure, it was very wet, but usable. But that's not why I bought it. When flexed, even lightly, it simply dumped ink - regardless of ink characteristics. It could have been defective, but the cost of returning it or paying a restocking fee, was not worth it. Thankfully, the new owner is fine with the prodigious ink output. I'm enjoying my Creapers.
Good review, thanks! I have this pen in my wishlist at Goulet Pens, I am waiting for some funds to be available before I purchase one. I am more assured of my choice, I am waiting for a delivery of a flex nib from FPR and if it works well I may put off my purchase for a little while longer. I am concerned about the infamous Noodler’s smell, so I am glad to hear that it is lessened with this pen. Thanks for sharing your review with us.
I got some of the 308 cartridges to go with my ahab when they first came out thinking it would make the ahab a great back up pen. I filled one and slipped it into my bag when the time came I actually needed it all the moisture had left the cartridge. I was able to reconstitute the dye sludge that was left behind with some tap water, but I found it didn't work the way I had hoped that it would. I still like the idea but I think I would prefer it with a student material.
I've enjoyed the Triple Tail quite a bit. I swapped out the nib on my Ahab for a Goulet stub. It writes very well with this nib.
Three times I read this as Triple TALL but once I learned to read, I enjoyed the review. Thanks.
Great review.
Ooh that looks so interesting!😱😱
I have a couple TT'S. One I bought at the the Boston open show from Nathan. I reworked the nib with one of those pink standing/polishing sticks to get more of an italic nib. It works well. The feed is cut very deep to allow ink to pool under the nib. Why keep ink in a reservoir when it's needed at the tines?
IF YOU HEAT SET THE NIB WITH WATER JUST OFF THE BOIL, DON'T BRING THE HOT WATER UP INTO THE FILLING CHAMBER WITH THE FILLER PUMP. It will expand the plastic filler mechanism and the threads won't be tight. Just dunk the nib and grip section in the hot water. IF, you do have a pump filling thing where the threads don't tighten as you think they should, dip the filing section only in very hot (but not boiling) water and work the cylinder threads area smaller by the threads with your fingers. It actually worked for me. A tip I got from Nathan. His pens are really wet quite indestructible. Esp the material used in the fish pen. Nice review. Cheers, Dave
Hi. I would like to if the TT under no pressure for normal writing, writes as broad as a Lamy broad which is a little thick for my taste. If it writes something between medium and broad Lamy Safari it will be great. Can I have your comments please?
Thanks for the review. I still buy Noodler's pens for the smell. But for the Triple Tail, I guess I'll just have allow it as demure.
Nice review master!😁
Oh wow! Thank you Stephen, I've GOT to get one of these. If someone else hasn't beaten me to it, I do have some of those Noodler's .308 cartridges. I'd be happy to send you a couple of them, if needed. If you can still use them, let me know where you'd like them sent. I don't mind the international shipping at all.
Thank you Dr. Brown for the useful review. Knowing the issues you have had with Noodlers, I was wondering what you would say. I am impressed with your qualified objectivity - qualified because as you say, I do want to know your personal opoion. Actually your review (along with the other comments here) has made me think I might give this pen a try - I have been skeptical given my experience with my Ahab and so many disappointing reviews of the Neponset. Noodlers - the brand one so much want to love... but often cannot. However I am afraid now I will go once more into the breech as they say...
I bought this pen from Goulet and it was perfect - it was my first flex and I wanted to decide if it was something I wanted to pursue in my FP with something pricier - it exceeded my expectations. I keep coming back to it, and I test many inks on it, and I teach my children how to use a fountain pen on it. The smell is unfortunate, my kids keep commenting about it- nevertheless a great purchase. I recommend everyone at least try it.
I use this Triple tail lot and lots, tip give it the proper wash first to get the oils off. I've eyedroped this great pen, reason being uses a lot of ink I mean lots. You will be impressed, in my opinion.
Noodlers working? Minimalist room? Hair combed back , 40’ style? A fountain pen with a value of 60$? Are we in a parallel universe?????? Aghhhh!!!!!
Thanks for your videos !
Tripple Tail is an amazing pen with a completely different writing feel. Probably for the first time, out of the many pens that I have tried, this is something completely different - the combination of the incredible lightness of the ebonite pen itself and the incredible, amazing softness of the nib creates the impression that you are sliding on paper in zero gravity - after this pen, the feel of a usual pen is as if you were writing with a nail. At the same time, when you just start to write to her, and apply too much force, out of habit, she seems incredibly thick-writing, impractical, but when you get used to it a little, you seem to open up a new dimension in working with text - you can even write more bold for highlighting fragments of text.
Unfortunately, there were some drawbacks - she writes sometimes unstably, it seems that she is very capricious with paper and ink (I have tried so far with only one, perhaps ink with lubricant will show itself better). There are problems with starting (the first moment after touching the pen with paper). The feed is clearly not geared towards feeding both ink channels for a long time - if you draw thick lines for a long time (which are done here without any effort), it starts to work much worse and the described problems are aggravated. It's also funny that, due to the double ink channel, the pen writes very clearly and stably with the back side - almost like a "normal" single-channel fountain pen.
I recently purchased this pen and use it with a shimmer ink. The combination is perfect. I use it to write fancy cards to friends. The flow works very well with the particulates in shimmer inks.
Hi. I would like to know if the TT under no pressure for normal writing, writes as broad as a Lamy broad which is a little thick for my taste. If it writes something between medium and broad Lamy Safari it will be great. Can I have your comments please?
@@constantinosthrasyvoulou2553 The TT writes more broadly and juicier. It lays down a lot of ink, but for calligraphy it is really nice.
@@joyerickson6044 Thanks very very much for your answer 😀
What shimmering inks have you used with the triple tail?
The Noodler cartridges are great for holding a lot of ink.👍🐐
The smell can give you a headache. I put mine out for a couple of months before I would use it. Speaking of the older pens btw. I’m interested in this pen just haven’t done it yet. Thank you for your review.
Hi, great review as always. Did you ever do a strip down video for this pen? I don’t see one. Thank you.
Been waiting for this. Wanted to add a flex nib to my collection and was curious about this one since I first heard of it...
Agree about packaging... I don't want to have to store a bunch of packaging... I can understand packaging as large as an eyeglass case especially if you can store extra cartridges etc but anything larger is a rather ridiculous. The boxes as large as a large book registers as ludicrous 😂. Not practical in the least little bit... Unless your storing a life time supply of cartridges....
No smell? Ahhh, fantastic, I’m in. Thanks for the review.
I'm glad you've had a good experience with a Noodler's product for a change. I have a Triple Tail and got the 308 reusable screw-in cartridges and they work just fine, making the changing of ink colors easy. Before that I eyedroppered the pen with no issues. Then again I have eyedroppered a number of different pens without issue - perhaps because the weather is extremely mild where I live. Or my hands are cold.
Are they going to sell the triple tail in different colours?
Reviewers don't have to be objective,they must be consistent . If you dislike the pens that I like then I can make my decisions with confidence .
Thx for this review, Stephen. I am curious about your remark about Noodler's inks having "destroyed" some of your pens. Do you have any videos or images pertaining to this? I can't recall any, but maybe I missed something.
No, I don't.
What ink destroyed pens? I’m hesitant to use Noodlers in vintage pens, but they are my favorite inks. You hear all sorts of arguments online but I’m interested in your personal experience.
Is that nib style the same as a music nib? I too really like my TT. About the smell - sort of like the cilantro story - some people like it others think it taste like soap. Twenty-three & Me says that this preference is predictable by one’s genome. Maybe this smell is the same way ..... lol. I happen to like the smell (though I do not like cilantro) and like you said, the smell on the TT was considerably less. Makes me wonder how the material formula was changed. Thanks for the review.
Yes, I'd say that for all intents and purposes, it is a music nib. Often, they are a bit stubby
Interesting pen. How does it compare to a vintage flex nib?
It requires more pressure to open up
did yours smell funny when you got it? idk if it was the plastic, but mine smelt awful
I love the Noodler’s smell. Nice and sweet.
Price question/suspicion/annoyance? (Responding kinda to Richard T.) There's a lot new here as well as old favorite construction elements.
I was surprised that Mr. Brown did not point out differences in nib design and feed shape from the Neponsets (and Ahabs). The nib is an experiment/departure for Noodlers in that it's narrower - proportionally - which I think makes the two sides of the whole nib move more freely. Shape (less shoulder) also affects that. Looking at the sides of this nib you see a clearly new shape.
(My Creaper is a narrow little nib, though. I don't count that nib as a direct ancestor of this new product's nib. I'm comparing to the nib shape of the regular Noodlers #6 nibs and the shape/size of a Neponset nib.
I have one of these and it's super wet. It is not as small a line - even with no pressure - as an Ahab. I *do* wish there was a crisper narrow line - when moving side-to-side for my grip.created by its tipping. I am considering buying another to experiment with changing that tip shape. Wish me luck! (I'll practice on some other nibs first, of course.)
Speculating: These "Triple Tails" replace the Neponset. Have you noticed Neponset stocks are dwindling? So running a company, capitalization of whatever manufacture/assemble here he has to build out himself, margins, and funding forward research and experimentation - $55 is OK and $20 less than a Neponset. And you usually have to fight a Neponset to get it tuned to "run". (I have had several.)
This brand has been some hit and miss for me, but I also have not had any problems with my Tripple Tail. The feedback is a bit surprising. You would think such a wet nib would ski on the ink, but mine is also giving some feedback. I'm not sure I like mine yet, but it is way better than the Ahab.
Thanks for this review. What causes the odor in Noodler’s pens?
I think it’s the cellulose plastic. It has a tendency to off gas as it ages. I have 60 year old screwdrivers made from the stuff and you can still smell the slight odor up close. The upside, it’s a wood pulp product, tough, UV resistant, long lasting, can be recycled/burned and FDA approved. I think all these qualities go with Noodlers Mission statement.
David Lucas Thanks for the info.
I bought this pen about a week ago. Skipped significantly out of the box, w regular pressure or when trying to flex. Took it apart, cleaned it, reassembled it then used a different ink, (Aurora Blue-Black the first time, Noodler’s Navy the 2nd) it continued to railroad and skip. I disassembled it again and soaked it overnite in soapy Dawn dish soap water. Next day I opened a few channels on the feed with an exacto knife, very slightly mind you. All That did the trick. It writes well now. HOWEVER, something that drives me nuts, and I noticed it on your pen too, Stephen, is the ink that leaks into the spacer sleeve behind the nib/feed assembly collar. I cannot get it out! When trying to change ink colors it bleeds and mixes and taints the new color! You did not mention it but it ruins any ink change experience. I like this pen BUT until I can find a way to get that ink out from behind the Nib assembly sleeve it unfortunately is a one ink-dedicated pen. And that’s a bummer. Thanks for what you do, always helpful
Thanks for this review! From your writing sample I can finally see why I don’t get any flex from using any flex pen. My grip is almost sideways. I can’t use a pen straight up and down like what is required to get the proper flex line.
Steven
You succeeded bring a fair and honest reviewer of that pen
Chapeau bas
The pen deserves you favorable review in my opinion, I do have 2 of them and enjoy their comfort
I wish Nathan would sell a non flex nib also for them
Friendly regards
I do wish there were replacement nibs for it, and different colors, but I guess this takes time!
Any thoughts on how this differs from a music nib? It seems similar in construction.
I have never used a real music nib, but I think they usually had italic grinds? Like a flexy italic with 3 tines? The Triple tail/Neponset is more like a smooth medium nib that gets insanely broad with pressure, so it doesn't have that italic quality
I have the triple tail and I like it. Is it the same nib as on the neponset? I'm just curious as to what the difference between the two pens are supposed to be. thank you.
Hi. I would like to if the TT under no pressure for normal writing, writes as broad as a Lamy broad which is a little thick for my taste. If it writes something between medium and broad Lamy Safari it will be great. Can I have your comments please?
@@constantinosthrasyvoulou2553 it's fairly thick. like a broad or more.
@@michaellmikeyymike Thanks very much for your reply. It is helpful for me 😀
@@constantinosthrasyvoulou2553 I'm glad i could help
Is it made of the same material as the Ahab?
No
I know it’s not fair, but if it’s similar to the Ahab then it would nice to know why it’s double in price. Ya know....something like, “Now less stinky” (lol), or “Improved nib performance.” Glad your experience was good Stephen, and that’s certainly all you can base the review on. But unless I misunderstood, you sound like you’ve also had your challenges with Noodler’s pen brand. Appreciate your honesty.
Less smelly might be a feature worth the price. You can use the pen right away, and not have to wait months for it to air out.
Excellent info. Thanks for a broader perspective. This sounds like a reason to give this particular pen a shot.
You're so darn funny! 🤣🤣🤣
How does this compare to the fountain pen revolution flex nibs? Tfs
That would make for an interesting video. Meanwhile, if it helps: I have one of each, and find the Triple Tail writes significantly wetter and broader, but I like both.
“I will take a pen that writes consistently with feedback over a super smooth nib that skips.” Amen, brother!
So what is the difference between this and a music nib?
Music nib has an italic grind on it, while this does not.
Look at that. They made a pen that writes out of the box like my other noodlers pens write after modifying them for a few hours. I might just buy one.
Am I going crazy or did you remix the beginning of your intro song ? I approve
Haha he should go all out with the dubstep and such
What is your thoughts on the triple tail vs the Neponsets?
Well, as I say in the video, I've had issues with most Neponsets, while this pen writes.
@@sbrebrown darn I'm sorry I must've not heard you say. Sorry for asking a redundant question. Thanks for answering. Loving your instagram dad jokes btw
Why did you choose a lubricated ink for this pen?
So you found a Noodler's fountain pen that didn't give any problems? Have you thought about buying a lottery ticket? This could be the start of a lucky streak. Thank you for your review. Take care and stay safe. I hope that you are not getting any resudual smoke and contaminants from the fires over here from California and Oregon.
What kind of smell? I've never had one. Is it something chemical/toxic smelling or something that is a natural smell that's just very strong?
It's made from vegetable resin or cotton resin. Nontoxic. Funky but nontoxic. People make a big deal out of it but it fades.
What is up with the paper feather city.
I bought one at the LA Show in February, but quit using it after a few weeks as it sometimes burped ink. That may have been my own inexperience in flex writing, but it didn’t make for enjoyment of the pen. It also got ink trapped between the nib collar and the section which I couldn’t completely clean out as I couldn’t unscrew it. The nib and feed came out but not the collar. So I just put the pen away.
In my experience, Noodler's can be very temperamental. I have four Ahabs--two work well, and two not so well.
Clifford: All my Noods have ink trapped under the grip section. At first I thought it was a defect, but after clean/flush and adjusting each then refilling, , I believe it is not possible to avoid. Sorry if your are disappointed. Not a big deal to me. Hell's bells, it's a demonstrator. Ding dong.
Whats wrong with this Iroshizuku ink? Mine does the same on paper, why is that?
I can confirm this pen needs the breather tube.
Fabulous flex for just fifty quid!
Reviewing Noodler's pens: "...When you are a reviewer, then that's a complicated job... Reviewing is a complicated job. " 🤣 Noodler's in a nut shell.
🧐 Well, I like them.
Great, but what about the price?
What about the price?
@D Fire P the doctor did not say anything a out it?
Wait, go back! What did their ink do to destroy your pen?
Lanbitou means broken pen nib in Chinese :)
Trouble with Noodlers, is the original vision has been lost in the manufacturing and outsourcing.
If your ink has some railroading, try a drop of water in the pen
So happy that Noodlers did this, "I have been waiting for this"......just hoping smell goes away....and why in the Hell does Noodlers keep using these stinky materials?
Orthodox Christian Chant on the Feast of the Holy Cross! V. cool.
Sound seems a bit out of sync with the film.
Pen writes really nicely, it is just me - too lazy to practise flex writing, so stubs all the way... :)
Just writing normally with this will give you line variation, without going for something copperplate like.
I just received mine! I have to be honest, I am surprised how awful it is. I bought from a online retail and has Commonwealth 2021 on the barrel. It still smells bad and dents and marks all over the body, the cap band has sharp edges. Ok, last time I bought a Noodlers pen was 3 years ago and they sent me a wrong pen and never bought after that until now. The nib is also a surprise, good and bad. It started great, then Triple Tails become Twin Tails, railroading is so annoying that I think I should return this. For $62 I can buy something much better than this. I love Noodlers inks but pen, not so much!
Here's my issue with the vegetal resin; the ink disappears, which is why the pump filler, if it's still made from that resin, is a non starter.
My understanding is this pen is made from butaryte (sp), which is more stable, less porous. Do you know from which material thi pump is made?
And like you I appreciate the minimalist packaging. Even if I had the funds, on principle I would not purchase a pen that came in a ridiculous box. I want to pay for the pen, full stoo, not cabinetry!
ha ha ha....for the love of god, the smell....ha ha ha
I just don't see the point of this being a 40 dollar pen. The Ahab is a 20 dollar pen and both pens are basically the same...
I see Goulet and JetPens have it listed for $55 USD atm. But in response I would have to disagree re. 'basically the same'. The Ahab was notorious for occasionally blobbing ink on the page, filling the cap when not in use, and drying out fairly quickly...to the point that I never kept ink in them for more than just a few days (I have had 3 Ahab's over time). The manufacturing tolerances of that pen were atrocious. From Dr. Brown's review, it would appear this latest pen design has corrected a significant number of those issues. So I think it's worth a few shekels more than the Ahab, albeit nowhere near the $90 CAD Wonder Pens is currently charging (with the exchange rate I would have expected something around $75.
@@andylegg1878 well, that drying ink issue hasn't changed.... better than Creaper, but it still there..
Ahab was not that great, I bought it one, few years back, the unique smelling plastic, and the pen lost the quality in not more than a year, slipping of the thread, at the filling unit and causing leaks. Now, I am not using it, the pen was unusable.
There is no way Goulet didn't make sure those pens were perfect before sending them to you. You and your address are flagged in every manufacturer and distributor's database. These days you're going to get the very best quality controlled examples ever. I order one and it may not write, and will stink as you described. Mine won't have ben tested, cleaned, and allowed to "air" out by a guy who wants a decent review so he can move some inventory.
He showed the cellophane wrapper it came in, so it would be interesting to know if it indeed came sealed. If so, Goulet probably didn’t check the nib.
I can barely hear you.
Then you have to turn up the volume.
Excellent review. But there is something very scary about the reviewer. His reviews are excellent, but he really gives me the creeps. Is it just me?
Noodker's fake Flex pen 👎