Prophecy Brief: The promise of Revelation
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Hi Pastor Brian, TY very much for the video. Ty for all your videos. We are very blessed here for your channel. I'm very grateful to the Lord for you as my Pastor, & for your YT Channel. We may not all agree on all said here, but we work through these/such things here, & move on as the Lord, would have us do. :) Thnx B2 God. Love, & Blessings to you, & yours, in the Lord Always. :)
This is probably the 3rd or 4th time I’ve had a question rattling around in my head and you come out with a video the next day 😆 thank you!
@@DannyWoodsDoP the Lord always knows what we need!
Hello Daniel, great question you asked. :) He's done videos for a few of my questions as well. :) Don't know of any other Pastor who does that. :) We're very blessed here on his channel. :) We may not always agree on all things all the time, but we work through these things together here, & move on from there. :) I'm grateful to the Lord for Pastor Brian, & his YT channel. :)
Speaking of some the “fantastical” things you spoke of, if we believe that God spoke the world into existence we shouldn’t have difficulty believing other seemingly fantastical things.
I like this word.... fantastical..... lol
The redemption of our souls was at the moment when we believed at the rapture it will be the redemption of our bodies and it’s not only God will spare us of His wrath but we will unite with the dead once and will e forever with the Lord
In the tribulation it will be hell on earth not just a walk in the park and God payed in full for our sins so we don’t have to go through that
Also it says I will keep you from the time of the trial, that can’t be from eternal hell it must mean a difference between tril and hell
Be blessed pastor Brian I agree with you on this one !!
Wrath and trial both have their beginning in the revelation, hidden within the narrative. Adding a third resurrection as pre mid or post adds and takes away from the prophecy which is warned against. Paul’s mystery resurrection (dead rise first) is recorded in the prophetic language. Doctrines of mens timings have blinded many seekers.
@@Jim-d1fHowever,if you study the apostles and first apostolic fathers who were their disciples,they taught a pretrib rapture. By the time of Augustine,the post trib rapture and the heretical replacement theology were taught. John warns that the antichrist spirit was working in his time. Later theologians changing what was taught by our first teachers appears to be man interfering with correct teaching. Perhaps because Augustine and Luther were rabidly antisemetic,changed the teaching by the influence of satan and their hatred for Jews who were the early church fathers. As Jesus says in the gospels,study to find yourself approved. Perhaps,you should beware of demeaning other Christians because you have not studied. Rapture timing is not a salvational issue. It's no reason to insinuate that someone is not saved because of their belief in pretrib rapture. May you be pleasantly surprised.
One of the main things that leads people to not understand the tribulation and the rapture of the church, is not understanding the main focus of the tribulation which is Israel. All scripture is for us but not all of it is about us. Scripture is clear that Christ will not physically return to earth till the jews “look on Him who they pierced” and say “blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord”.
And I think the main reason they do not understand the main focus of the Great Tribulation, is because they think they are Israel. They think they are "spiritual Israel." The Body of Christ Church is made up of Jew and Gentile. Israel is (will be, once God calls out to them again) made up of Jews.
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I embraced the pre-trib rapture that people like Jack Van Impe and Hal Lindsay taught for most of my Christian life, about 30 years or so but the last 16 years I actually read the Bible for myself and I think there’s more evidence that shows we will go through the tribulation. One of the main reasons I believe this is because Jesus only has one bride. I always hear Jan Markelle say God wouldn’t beat up his bride. Ok so that means that the bride goes to heaven before the tribulation and those that get saved during the tribulation are not the bride of Christ? The Jews, if saved by God‘s grace, ARE part of the bride of Christ. And while most of the catastrophe during the tribulation may be located in Israel and in the Middle East, that does not mean that it’s only for the Jews. There are just too many warnings in scripture to us, the body of Christ, to stay strong to stay faithful during tribulation.
I was also very attentive to Hal Lindsey and Dr. Jack Van Impe, read the Late Great Planet Earth numerous times as a young man. I admittedly have adopted what is know as a PreWrath position regarding the Rapture with my personal study. The timing of the Rapture or our "Blessed Hope" is not really an issue for me for whether we live or die we will be a participant. If we die as a believer we get to be first up though to meet the Lord in the air. Death has no power over us that believe, I take comfort in that solemn promise.
@@With-one-wing Hey W-o-w., thanks for your comment. While I appreciate Jan Markell‘s work, that’s not really the line of reasoning that I would necessarily stand on to support a pre-trib rapture. Also, blending Israel with the church does have a number of its own problems as well. I don’t know that any particular perspective on the rapture answers every question, but I just do think that the pre-trip position does seem to allow for a more consistent hermeneutic through the scripture.
The Body of Christ is not the Bride of Christ. Only Paul was writing directly to the Body. Everything else Scripture is to, for and about Israel. You gotta rightly divide between what is meant for Israel and what is meant for the Body of Christ Church, if its gonna make sense. This Dispensation of Grace will end before God goes back to dealing with Israel according to their prophecy.
We as the Bride of Christ have accepted Jesus as our Saviour and Messiah WITHOUT seeing his death and ressurection. On FAITH alone. That’s what makes us different than the Jews. Their relatives actually saw Jesus and walked and talked with him.
@jaygirlization Israel is the Bride (will be, once God calls out to them again). We are the Body. Ephesians 5:28-30
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What TIME-PERIOD is the PROMISE of Rev3:10. No matter how many times you read it, it will NEVER say 7-YEARS.
Why do we automatically latch onto the promise recorded for the Church in Philadelphia? What of the other Churches such as Laodicea which identifies with martyrdom being tried in the furnace and clothed with white rainment?
Hi TWP, I think there are insights, instructions and warnings within each of the letters that can be gleaned by believers (and church bodies) in every generation, and should be. The future (eschatological) sounding language of Jesus' letter to the Philadelphians is why it is appropriate to consider these words from a futurist perspective.
@@CalvaryChapelFranklin Very true Pastor, we just have to be careful and not add to the text. I do agree the context of Revelation 3:10 has future implications as all the letters to the Seven Churches.
Those 7 churches are not Dispensational churches. They are not the Body of Christ Church. WE ALL WILL BE CHANGED IN A MOMENT... Only a remnant of those 7 churches will be spared the Tribulation (that's the 144,000 who are taken up as the mark of the beast is implemented REV 14). It's Israel's doctrine and their Prophecy. Not ours.
I realize Revelation 3:10 supports the narrative of the PreTrib Rapture proponents yet why do they ignore the other letters and only adopt the more prominently commended one?
We shouldn't
@CalvaryChapelFranklin I agree, thanks for that acknowledgement, that is rare these days.
@@TheWatchmansPost3929 I appreciate that you check out the posts :)
Revelation is a book of Prophecy: Israel's prophecy. It isn't about the Body of Christ Church. It's about Israel. Those who are spared the GT are the 144,000. We see them in heaven as the mark of the beast is implemented at the halfway point of Israel's 70th week. Rev 14. The Body of Christ is outta here before goes back to dealing with Israel according to their prophecy. In this Dispensation there is no distinction between Jew and Gentile. When this Dispensation is over, the 144,000, who are distinctively Jews, will be doing Matthew 24:14 before the end (great Tribulation) comes.
I think that believing we are grafted into Israel is what's throwing everyone off. We are not grafted into Israel we are grafted in AMONG Israel. We are grafted into Holiness. If the root be Holy, so are the branches. THEN Paul goes into the whole "branches" thing. Before the Body of Christ Church began with Paul, only Israel was Holy unto God. But now, so are we.
We were told beforehand, recorded to see, but doctrines have blinded.
Look at the ten virgins parable, oil, vessels, lamps, sellers of oil etc. Teachers tell us oil is the HS, but fail to show interpretation for the remaining pieces of the parable.
HS spirit is correct. It’s Jesus using sarcasm against the foolish and teachers who sell the free message of salvation, of which the HS comes upon those who believe, instead they sell doctrine which lead the foolish astray, the teachers remain behind with the foolish seekers.
Jesus is telling the foolish to go buy oil from the false teachers responsible for them being shut out of the kingdom. Again, same applies to the laodicean church, buy items from Jesus. All have meaning false teachers don’t and won’t teach, mostly due they don’t have the HS therefore lacking understanding, only interested in being above the seeker looking like a man of God and making money. Pharisees and Sadducees, history always repeats. Jesus warned many would come.
Today, it’s no different with teachers, 2000 years from the resurrection and teachers do the same with doctrines of men, leading foolishness astray. Just look at UA-cam, millions of teachers with videos, all claiming to be 110% correct everyone else 110% wrong. Not knowing their judgement is worse, their reward like the teachers of Jesus day, being what they gain here on earth while living, being looked up to, money, likes, followers etc, then eternal separation like the Pharisees and Sadducees.
Just imagine…
This is only a small piece of one parable. Hidden within it contains understanding of Jesus’ returns in last days judgements and rewards.
Many are called few are chosen.
Understanding the timing of the caught up is only important to a last generation, meaning the caught up wasn’t for any previous generation, as with Jesus five virgins parable. It’s this parable that ties to Paul’s mystery caught up resurrection (dead rise first). Jesus said only the Father knows, timing, then, Father revealed additional details of last days timing of events to Jesus, who then had John record them Rev 1:1
Like the virgins parable, all parable and prophecy conceal timing of hidden events. The Revelation records Paul’s mystery resurrection within the two resurrections seen in part within Rev 20:4-6. As well as revealing it in part within the seals narrative.
Each similar to the hints of other parts within revelation, examples include:
The mark, it occurs prior the first vial due the first vial being against those who’ve already taken the mark.
Trumpets, trumpets can’t sound until after the last seal, due the seven angles aren’t given the trumpets until the seventh seal is removed.
The first resurrection within Rev 20:4 shows only part of those included to be in the 1000 years. Two are shown, those who rejected the mark, and those who lost their lives due their faith during last days tribulation, which shows fulfillment recorded for the brethren in the 5th seal.
Timing of Christ’ mystery first resurrection return imperative for wise virgins to enter in, and not being among the foolish left behind.
This being the warnings and dangers of doctrines of men timing the caught up we have today, pre, mid, post etc.
Five wise knew when the Lord was coming, setting out to meet Him even prior the shout, slept, woke, trimmed lamps, shout came, they entered in. How do they know, it’s recorded yet hidden within His word.
It’s that pearl of great price in the field, one can’t just take the pearl when they find it, they first have to purchase the field, only then does the pearl belong to them.
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As I commented to you previously, please study to understand pretrib is not a doctrine of men. Midtrinb and post trib are men's imagination.
Look closely to what Paul who was inspired to write, and Jesus after God revealed last days events to Him, both critical over doctrines of men.
Paul’s caught up…
Paul is pointing to a resurrection, of which there are only two, one prior the 1000 years one after Rev 20:4-6.
Those who are alive and remain can’t be taken until dead rise first (resurrection).
Men add to revelation by timing the event to pre, mid, post etc.
Placing timing of this resurrection other than where God revealed to Jesus for it to take place takes away and adds to where Jesus had John record it. Doing so comes with a curse.
Teachers only have the opportunity to correct teaching while alive. Yes, it hurts, correction better than a curse.
Pull men from the fire. The greatest opportunity given to teachers.
@@Jim-d1f And I will reiterate that you do not understand what caught up means and the fact that it was a mystery. Paul was given the revelation of the rapture. The resurrection of the dead seconds before the rapture of the living is not referenced in the gospels. There are hints,such as Luke 21:36,but the "mystery" was revealed to Paul by Jesus Himself. The Greek word used for mystery means a truth revealed that was previously hidden. Go back to the writings of the apostolic fathers,circa 1st century AD rather than putting complete faith in a 5th century document which allegorizes the Bible. That was not the original teaching.
@@nanadeborah8717 it’s on you, trust Jesus, Paul, or any other source new or old outside scripture. That’s on you. Last response.
@@Jim-d1f You really are quite a piece of work. Where do you get your understanding of the bible? Quite obviously from the doctrine of Augustine. I would call that outside the bible. If you cannot study to find yourself approved as Jesus instructs us in Luke 22:36,then you are obstinate not listening to what scripture teaches. English I'd a poor substitute for the original Hebrew and Greek. Concepts are contained in those languages that do not translate well to English. The fact that you are to lazy to study the original languages to understand your Bible is on you, not on me. I am secure in my salvation.
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Rev 3:10 says nothing about end times, nothing about the rapture, nothing about the tribulation
God's Children are very much here all through Revelation. You don't need to See The word Church, just reading The Scriptures makes It clear. The other is, We have been in The Tribulation, It's Satan Attacking God's Children, If You have No Persecution or Tribulation in Your Life, you are none of HIS.
Brian. you need to understand that at the time of the writing of the book pf revelation, the Church's were mostly Jewish. Hence the entire book is written to Jew's because they will go into the "Time of Jacobs trouble" Rev 3 is written to the same people Jesus spoke to when he said "When you see the Abomination that causes desolation, flee to the mountains" Jesus will preserve THAT remnant during the trib. It's NOT a rapture verse directed to us. Jesus knew nothing of the rapture..
Now that’s sad. “God gave” the revelation to Jesus Rev 1:1
Jesus had John record the caught up in the book of revelation. The majority of believers today only know the word rapture. Men built doctrines around one word deceiving seekers with pre, mid, post etc.
Ask the next pastor you hear use the word rapture to read the whole verse in Greek from which it comes. Wait for their answer but don’t hold your breath.
@@Jim-d1f Yes God gave the book of revelation to Jesus who gave it to John. BUT, there is no mention of being "caught up" in the book. That phrase is only in Thess because Paul was the ONLY one onto whom the rapture was revealed.
@@Amigocontequila exactly the point, rapture which comes from caught up isn’t in revelation. Jesus reveals the two resurrections which is what caught up means (dead rise first). Its meaning hidden by dead rising first, of which men have created timing doctrines. Seek truth in what’s recorded, not what men teach from one word.
At Jim,at this point,I respectfully ask that you do more study. Do not cal things false doctrine that are not. Since you claim to be a Greek specialist, it would seem that you don't understand the meaning of the Greek word used for mystery. Please study rather than follow the doctrines of men.@@Jim-d1f
@@Jim-d1f Sorry but a resurrection is NOT a rapture, it will occur at the rapture. BUT they are also 2 separate events. The dead shall rise first, THEN we which are alive shall be caught up. However in 1 Cor 15:51 there is a resurrection of the righteous Jews only, and NO rapture.
You dont see the church after chapter 4 because 7 letters are for the church/bride/she,and every ends with a HE/male/son who overcome..
So symbology and tradition of man which God use to portrait His work tells us that male sons are those that inherit,rarely woman...And thats what revelation shows,birth of a son,who is than taken to the throne.
In fact that birth happen with removing what man lack according to the letters..And each letter give reward,and last one is the throne,where man is born again,not as people of today think,``pray a prayer and voila``
Chapter 4 John say ``Instantly I was in the Spirit`` which is a wrong translation. It should read ``instantly became spirit``
Not to mention narrow gate from Mat 7 which man need to go trough,and not many will find...Because they are presented with false doctrines..Rapture is false doctrine,and cannot be secondary issue,because its false..
1Ti 2 :11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.
1Ti 2 :12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have AUTHORITY over a man, but to be in silence.
And you dear pastor yet speaks,eve tho you are the woman.
Rev 3:18 “I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see.
Which is the narrow gate
Mat 7 :8 “For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. / open what?
Mat 7 :13 “Enter by the narrow gate
Mat 7 :29 for He taught them as one having AUTHORITY, and not as the scribes.
Instead of speaking,you should be taught by your husband,and when you give birth to a son,you should speak as son..
1Ti 2 :15 Nevertheless she/woman will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.