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Hey Roanoke I don’t know if you’ve ever watched the 1998 film Sphere, but I wanted to know your take on how the sphere manifests a person’s subconscious thoughts into reality. Would it be some kind of reality warping tech or are they group hallucinations.
I love your point about the hypersleep. One of the things I've always thought about it as well is imagining the Alien series from Ripley's perspective around hypersleep. She literally detonates the Nostromo. Goes to sleep and wakes up 50 years later. Endures the events of Aliens. Goes to sleep again and wakes up on a prison world with everyone she knows dead and the Alien present. Her life from Alien onwards in terms of awake time is like a month of total horror.
@@weareeverywhere6677 yeah Roanoke messed up a lot in this video, regarding their pods: its a stasis pod, it is stated in one of the books that 1/10 of the time goes by inside the pod, she was away for 57 years but only really experienced 5,7 years in actual aging, even Parker says "freeze him". One of the DLC names for Colonial Marines is "Stasis interrupted"....but by his logic she would be 80 years old or probably dead by bed soars when they find her...what a baffoon.
@@DerDrecksack87You really used as reference a novel and a dlc of one of the worst games ever made. Its clear almost no one will know that information.
Imagine dooming your friends and probably your entire race because a computer went beep-beep and told you to check something dangerous in a probably hostile enviroment.
@@johnnyboygriffin5764 if you are going to somewhere unknown you should be protected and prepared, the characters were'nt prepared to deal with an hostile organism.
The nose bleed is from an abandoned scene where they try to blow the Alien out an airlock, but fail. During the scene, Ripley is caught in the airlock for a brief moment during decompression. Later, the nosebleed was supposed to be a physical sign of her injury during the decompression accident. There are some still images and may be some rough footage filmed, but the scene was abandoned.
What’s more terrifying is apparently because of the exoskeleton and internal, they are built like waterbears and their biggest problem in a vacuum is more cold slowing their bodies and throwing them into a stasis than actually dying So in Aliens she basically shot the queen onto some poor random world to create a new nest
There is a great creepypasta called FELINE. It’s Alien, but from the perspective of Jonesy, who it turns out is a genetically engineered super kitty created to hunt space-rats. When two perfect organisms clash it gets pretty wild. It also suggests a reason why the Big chap in alien is relatively soft and squishy but the ones in Aliens are pretty much bullet proof to pistols.
That wasn't just some cruiser or lander. That was Nostromo itself. Many people who see this movie presume Nostromo was that huge structure, but no. Nostromo was a towing ship. The 4 towers we see are actually a mixture of refinery and storage. Basicaly, they mine the ore, fill up the storage with it and on their way back home, the refinery does its job. By the time they get home, ore is refined.
@@justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233 kashyyk mainly but there's a couple on koriban in the cave system that you find the apprentices trying to excape from the sith
One point about aliens exploding when shot in Aliens, there's a moment where Ripley asks Gorman what the rifles fire. Lt. Gorman replies: "10 millimeter explosive tip caseless. Standard light armor piercing rounds." The bullets are designed to explode. Either to make penetrating light armor a not-challenge and/or explode inside of targets.
I think it's a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B. the 10mm rounds don't really pack that much explosives, so while it may be enough to blow off someone's arm or liquefy their organs, it wouldn't be enough to fully blow someone apart like it does with the aliens, so the blood is most likely volatile and set off by the explosive rounds.
@@jedidiahmayes7167 Both from the lore, it is why in many sources when fighting Xenomorphs they aim for the head, less pressure than the chest thus less acid going everywhere.
@@adrianaslund8605 pretty much in effect though with differences, the rounds aren't rocket propelled, 10mm caseless travels like a standard round, but upon impact like a bolt round has a microsecond delayed detonation fuse to ensure it explodes inside the target, the difference with bolt rounds I believe is the fuse is mass reactive detonating upon a certian distance in the target depending on the amount of mass it's encountered so the timing varies slightly (matter of miliseconds) to ensure maximum damage, if it detonated on the same timing for a human as needed for an Ork the round would over penatrate and be well past the human before exploding (not that the 37mm hole wouldn't still be fatal). 10mm caseless is just a standard time delayed fuse.
On a point of hypersleep. The original script did call for them to be fluid filled and the idea was it dropped their motabolism because the ship only carried 24 hours worth of oxygen (a deleted line explains this which is why they're so desperate to find the alien before they go back in the freezers) As for the the nostromo entering the atmosphere it wasn't designed to land on a planet except in emergencies. Add to this rough storm force winds and uneven terrain it's no surprise it took damage... Also the nostromo is an old ship with a lot of wear and tear Kane's line about being in a cave makes more sense if you've read the script. As the jockey ship has landed on a buried pyramid like structure which is where the eggs are. When he's going down the shaft you can hear him say to Dallas that he's "below the level of the ship" right before it opens up into the cave. It's an easy to miss detail. Also the reason why Ripley and ash can't just radio them is because they're behind rock formations in a heavy storm with high ionisation in the air (as mentioned when they study the planet) so radio signal is cut off. (Mountains tend to do that to radios) It's worth pointing out the image you used for analysing the alien structure appears to be from a later film. Big chap (the one from alien) has 2 thumbs one either side. With the fingers fused in pairs. The hands you describe are more inline with the 2nd film. Also the tail has a stinger like structure similar to a scorpion (as seen when Lambert is grabbed) which according to the original writers contained a venom to paralysis the victims (this would have originally been what knocks gorman out in aliens but they changed it during filming) The reason why the self destruct can't be stopped after 5 minuets is because it's not a bomb. If you read the panel with the instructions what she's doing is dumping the coolant from the fusion engine core. After 5 minuets it's already over heated to the point that it's losing containment and pumping the coolant back in is not going to do anything (and would probably burst the pipes as the coolant super heats)
You are correct: John Hurt knew about the chestburster; no one else did. The other actress - not Sigourney Weaver - apparently threw up when they called 'cut.'
I feel oddly ashamed for thinking that was weird. Media has really desensitized us. My mom watched these things around me with no regard as a very small child and now, I want find things scary so bad, but don't. Pray for me😂
I'm now 60yrs old. I took my parents to watch it at the local drive in cinema when I was 15 yrs old, with the crappy hook over the window mono speaker. Did they like it? They were too shocked to comment. I think that's a thumbs up?
I was a young lad, just had a major surgery. My dad rolls in the TV cart, pops on this nugget then proceeds to walk out to talk to the doc for the duration of the film……
The giggle at "Master Debaters" and then the next few seconds where you can literally hear his smile while he talks made me laugh big time. Never change Roanoke
The actors knew that Kane's death scene would coincide with the emergence of the Alien as of course they read the script, but they did not know exactly how it was going to happen. They filmed up to the part where Kane started convulsing, then asked the other actors to leave the room and set up Kane's actor(John Hurt) for the chestburster scene before calling the other actors back in. The explosive acid blood could also be that the blood is pressurized which causes it to spray out when the body is damaged.
Pressurized blood is one of the theories. It's why the damage is so explosive when an adult is shot in the chest region. Safest means to shoot a xeno: legs then head because the pressure isn't as strong in those areas.
I mean, I always figured that the Xenomorphs had natural hydraulics and pneumatics to move and explain their immense strength as well. Their exoskeletons are robust enough to survive in space for undisclosed amounts of time.
“Just sit around the table and talk about anything that ISN’T about the movie.” The script just said “It emerges”, the blond lady fainted, scared the heck out of everybody else not knowing if he was actually having a medical problem
I heard that they knew about it but that it had malfunctioned a number of times and not popped out of the chest on command so that when it happened it was a genuine surprise, not that they didn't know what would happen but when.
@@benlevan5645 it has a tail, you're better off trying to set them on fire as they've shown insect-like behaviour and heat is effective was both weakening material and expanding
Couple things: hyper sleep pauses or extremely slows aging -They have radio, but it donks out on them due to atmospheric interference -When Cain says the mist reacts, he's talking about the sound it makes I've always wondered if the eggs create the mist - is it like a tripwire telling them to get ready to grab face, or maybe a stasis thingie created by the Engineers. Because I too am disgusted by Prometheus, I've also always wondered whether a dead queen laid all those eggs after the ship crashed or was it carrying them as cargo or what?
@@ElijahNMitchell that makes some sense, and implies that the eggs were being carried somewhere, which also makes sense, bcz if they'd been laid by a queen after the crash instead of being an intentional shipment, where did she wander off to?
If I remember the Prometheus behind the scenes info correctly, the ships in Prometheus were said to be war ships, and the Engineers there were creating bioweapons. They were in a civil war back then. The Engineers may have found a way to make the xenomorphs as we know them (or just caught some of the ones David made), and the ship the Nostromo crew found was on its way to drop those on the enemy side before the pilot got killed. That's probably how those eggs ended up there, unless they decide to make a movie about how it happened.
@@zachw2906 I don't really like Prometheus either to be honest, way too similar to the original Alien movies and just makes the story less cool (also the characters were far dumber, really bugged me). I do wonder what the story could've been behind the space jockey and xenomorphs without the Prometheus movies though. I like to think xenomorphs were pest control, maybe they were like alien cats that hunted alien rats or just any problems in general. They would be perfect for the job with how adaptable they are. The space jockey could've been an exterminator going off delivering them when one escaped. 😂 Genetically engineered bioweapons that get out of control just feels too clichéd at this point, wish they didn't go with that idea.
So glad you did this one!!! It may be controversial to bring in AvP lore, but some things that happened in that first AvP movie may indicate that the acid isn't blood. The acid seems to be located within a layer maybe between the epidermis and the actual cardiovascular system, acting as a defense mechanism. Kinda like how a bombardier beetle can house hazardous chemicals in its abdomen. Also, a predator was able to dissect a dead alien without getting completely blasted by acid. All of this could be the director of AvP blatantly ignoring established lore, but would love to hear your thoughts anyways!
You are spot on about honeybee genetics. A queenless hive can develop laying worker syndrome, where the worker bees actually develop ovaries and eggs. Then they try to lay eggs (since a stinger is an adapted ovipositor), but they aren’t fertilized and end up becoming little drones. Then the hive dies. 😢 It can be a pain to fix if it happens. It only happened to me once and I caught it early. I introduced a new queen and they settled down after a week. If it gets bad enough they will kill any queen you put in there- $90 (2008) down the drain. At that point you move the hive a couple hundred yards away, shake and brush all the bees off the frames and in the box, and move the empty hive back. Then you can introduce a queen. Because you just brushed off all laying workers and left them where they can’t find their way home. So now all the foragers come back, realize they need to do housekeeping duty, and make sure the new queen gets going. It’s amazing what goes on inside those little noggins!
The coma does suspend them somehow though. A major plotpoint of the second film is that Ripley is suspended long enough for her infant daughter to die of old age. The suspension pod on the escape pod from the Nostromo. So they don't age for sure. Side note: They seem really uncoordinated in the space jackey scene because they had kids in mini space suits act out the scenes to make the set seem more daunting.
Ripley's daughter was 11 when she left on the mission in the first movie. Odd that in a world with deep space travel dying in your mid to late sixties is considered natural causes.
I mean considering its a corporate hell hole and the earth is super polluted I bet if you can't afford healthcare any death is 'natural causes'@@tamakunminnip2117
I was thinking at that time the cat was infected by the creature, so the alien was all chill about it. It could tell already it was infected. Also they could of just drugged the cat, the 70s didn't have the same kind of protection for animals as they do today. There was one movie I remember seeing years ago and the cat was tied to the chair with those plastic ties.
You're completely wrong about the stasis pods. At the end of the movie, when Ripley defeats the alien and is able to go into hyper-sleep, she's unfortunately is untracked by the home system and stays in suspended animation for 57 years. Yet, when she's awoken she's only aged just a few years (the same amount of years Sigourney Weaver aged in real RL). Sadly, Ripley's daughter dies of old age before she is found and returned. So the pods DO slow down aging a very considerable amount.
You're missing the point, in universe, yes the pods slow aging. It's just shown poorly, or at least to 70s sci-fi thinking. The pods don't seem to do anything that would be needed for suspended animation, which is what they were going for. Like Roanoke said, it looks like it just puts them to sleep. Which would not stop aging, or cellular degeneration, or even metabolism by that much. In other words, you would still age, starve, and die. To stop all that you'd need to somehow have stupid low tempatures, while also not destroying tissue. Or super sci-fi energy field stasis.
that may be what they were going for, but in this case you're the completely wrong one. story wise sure they might be supposed to slow aging, but all theyre shown to do is put you in a comatose state. no further tech was shown, no cryo or metabolic suspension. so really ripley survived 57 years because of movie magic.
And xenomorphs grow and exist by movie magic. I mean their ability to convert food (what did it eat? Not like Nostromo had a lot of rats in the ducts) into bodymass, their ability to slobber buckets of drool despite never consuming liquids... It's all garbage
Lol that’s what it looks like when a point goes completely past someone. He did watch the movie, he’s aware of what it was supposed to be. Even other flicks of the period had done a more comprehensive job of cryo/hyper sleep. I think it was probably just a cost saving “people won’t think about it too hard” kind of thing
36:20 Why can't the self-destruct be aborted after the five minute mark, Roanoke? It's because the self-destruct mechanism doesn't use a bomb, so much as it causes the engines to overheat and reach the critical point. Once it's triggered and reaches a certin point there's simply not enough time to shut them back down and stop the buildup of heat before it hits the critical point.
In my opinion, I think the reason why they explode when “hit” is because they are under pressure using a form of organic hydraulic system. I think this would explain the force of the inner jaw (would it be a proboscis?) can hit with enough force to puncture the human skull.
Turns out in Aliens they outright say the pluse rifle is firing semi-armor piecing, high explosive ammo (SAPHE). The effects got carried over in the other films. Despite the explanation not being applicable in all the films.
The inner jaw projects at high speed due to the muscle structure that can generate high forces similar to regular jaw muscles of sharks or crocs that can clamp down with destructive power
Pharyngeal jaw actually. And yeah, same. Their bodies are composed of high pressure liquid that allows them immense strength and surprisingly fast movement(in bursts).
they use, as standard for any off-world operations, or just in general, SAPHE rounds as someone else mentioned, they arent full of fluid as some people want to think, weve seen the inside of a alien and its basically solid tissue, probably extra dense muscle
I can’t wait for you to cover Aliens and their hive structures and Alien 3 where we actually see one “eat”. Also we definitely need a shirt that says “stay strapped or get clapped” please I would love one haha
There is even a far much worse *Variant* or unique caste of Chestbursters presented in the Comics that doesn't molt / mature into an adult. Not only that but it had a vast variety of toxins or literal venom that either melted the infected or caused them to explode. As if xenomorph already werent bad enough!
@nicholaschen4432 The gore burster, a varient of the body burster (a xeno varient that skipped the chestburster phase all together) a failed recreation attempt that resulted in a jet black chestburster that would leave a gooey pink slime wherever it went.
Luckily the goreburster was a mutation caused by infection with an unknown virus as the alien eventually died a few hours after being born soo it was a one of a kind mutant
I love exploring these metabolisms that seem so much superior to human metabolism. Aliens really open the door to questions like, "if we had to custom engineer the best lifeform, what would that look like?" The Xenomorph seems to fit the bill. Can survive in almost any environmental condition, even hard vacuum of space, is both powerful and intelligent, and has incredible defenses with its acid blood and biological armor. It just has everything.
It can use the DNA of its host organism to build a creature tailored to fit the environment it in. That is absolutely brilliant bc it takes the denouement of the first sci fi book (war of the worlds) and turns it on its head. I love the alien universe and absolutely terrified of it
I've long since viewed the xenomorph as basically unfair, its physical attributes are excessive even for a 'monster' and they're so good at hiding. You could be in a perfectly spherical, all white, well lit room with no obstacles or furniture, and the damn thing would still find a way to hide. They're probably my favorite hostile creature.
Also, I'd love to see your take on, while it was a deleted scene, egg morphing. A pretty ingenious way to continue the species without the presence of a Queen.
In the novels, a drone without a Queen nearby would eventually molt into a new Queen on its own. I think Earth Hive stated it was a few weeks to two months. Something like that.
I remember there is a fan theory the Big Chap is molting into a Queen which may explain why it was so lazy in the escape shuttle. It's waiting to molt.
It is actually a canonical part of the Franchise now, actually! In the absence of a Queen, a Drone will create a small hive so one of them can either molt into a Queen or a Queen Facehugger can be produced.
I don't know what to consider canon, because movies, novels, comics and games all change the rules. The 2 main explanations are: 1) the strongest "hybrid" alien go through mutations to slowly purify its DNA from the "host" until it became a "praetorian" (that it's an immature queen) then it can grow up form a cocon and became one. 2) an egg if there isn't any queen around can mutate and became a "praetorian egg" that create a pure alien embryo that can develop un to a queen.
@@emib6599 There was a book released a while back called "The Wayland-Yutani Company Report" that basically clears up the Canon. If I remember correctly, there are three ways for a xenomorph hive to continue or be established. 1) Eggmorphing: A Drone will established a hive by using a host to produce an egg and then a new host to make a new Drone. 2) Molting. Any Xenomorph within the hive has the ability to molt into a Queen if necessary. 3) Royal Facehugger. The Hive will be produce a Royal Facehugger to produce a Queen.
The alien didn't react to her entering the lifeboat because it was actually dying of age by then. Drones don't live long especially away from the nest, their only source of nutrition. In the directors cut, she finds Dallas and Burke in the ships bowels while detonating the core. Burke has been mostly turned into another egg and Dallas is almost to the same point. He begs Ripley to kill him, which she does, and that destroys the aliens budding respite. It then flees into the lifeboat, as it knows the ship is going boom boom. Imagine by that point it's an elderly human, and it knows it'll die if it stays there. So it went there to hibernate until the lifeboat reaches somewhere that isn't exploding. These things can do that, apparently. Hibernate near death until it gets the chance to restart? Aliens, bro. Aliens.
We need you to weigh in on the difference between the Drone xenos and Warrior xenos, some believe Drones mature into Warriors, others believe Warriors are a different variant entirely, and I would love to know how other variants such as Crushers, Spitters, and Bursters are created, considering many of the places they show up are inhabited solely by humans, or one or two other species despite the wide variety of variants present.
most of them are actually explained when theyre introduced, they were mostly experiments by the weyland corp on alien genetics to be able to control them, and Drones do molt into warriors, the majority of implantations will result in a drone, some will make a Praetorian, and even fewer will make a queen, the rest are either a "natural" evolution of the species or experiments by one group or another
The reason you can't deactivate the self destruct is because it's done by removing the coolant rods from a reactor, at a certain point putting the rods back in doesn't stop the reaction. That's what I thought anyway.
That is what I recall too, after five minutes, the reactor system is too damaged to safely return to operation and simply continues its merry way to asploding. Not that melting down nuclear reactors can 'explode' without outside help. Like maybe a reactor 'meltdown geometry' that is designed to CAUSE a 'prompt critical' when the melted fuel all around the core slags through the 'stand-by' section and all drops into the "Good-bye pit" or whatever...but hey, "It's a movie!" I do wonder, though... But yes, I think if you have a good high rez version of the movie on a nice TV you can actually read something from inside that warning cap mentioning more about the five minute limit. Maybe I should watch it again and make sure. :)
@@RoanokeGamingYeah, I was confused when you said that because there's multiple instances in pre/post alien 3 and pre/post Prometheus where people are trapped in cryo sleep for decades
I do like the idea of the face hugger using the black goo to genetically splice the host DNA with xenomorph DNA in the embryo, rather than ignoring the Prometheus movies to only focus on the original Alien movies. The xenomorph is clearly some sort of bio weapon, we just didn't need to know who originally created them since it's not really important. I also like that AVP was mentioned because I like the idea that the predators found them first and started using them as big game for hunting, using humans as hosts because it bred a xenomorph favorable to them for their hunts. The xenomorph's creator doesn't matter because they're so old and clearly not around anymore, just the fact that the black goo is important to their reproduction.
Their creators are probably still out there but since they ultimately led to their own undoing with creating such a disgusting vile beast definitely let the majority of them to their downfall and only a small pockets of this race surviving out in the far reaches of space that's what happens when you play God it doesn't end well.
The multiple explosions from the self destruct is probably because they were towing an ore refiner with them. That was the 4 massive towers on the super structure. Probably had its own separate reactor from the ship itself. Also, every time I watch this I start singing With Arms Wide Open by Creed when the alien jump scares Dallas.
Alien is such an iconic movie that, in an light novel from japan called Gate, an individual looked into a magical portal and then immediately tried to pull his head back because the first thing he saw were "wierd egg looking things" And literally EVERYONE else in the room with him started shouting to close that gate, and the individual who put his head through was immediately quarantined with heavy armed guards en mass just outside his room. So iconic that in a world about realistic military operations in an isekai situation, the immediate military reaction to the idea of alien eggs was "Absolutely not."
also @RoanokeGaming, at 18:55 yeeting his body into space is probably the smartest thing they do. They just saw something burst out of his chest, and since that was the first time anyone had ever seen anything like this, they DEFINETLY were not sure if there were more inside of him.
Thank acheron we finally have the perfect organism for Roanoke to dissect Also a note that ALOT of people ask the water in the "chain room" is actually the landing gear which was exposed to the atmosphere of LV426.
@@stormjin2242clearly the technology exists that suspends aging almost or entirely, and the individuals aren’t simply rendered comatose and simply immobile. It’s even pointed out in a deleted scene that without going into hypersleep they would continue to consume depleting oxygen supplies. The assumption is that they must be cryogenically frozen to suspend their metabolic functions, however whilst that’s a predominant function in science-fiction they’ve clearly developed a means of suspending aging without cryogenic means. How the technology works is unknown, much like their FTL drives we can only surmise it works.
@@stormjin2242it’s clear that the technology exists to reduce the metabolic rate. All throughout the film they refer to the pods as freezers, even noting that they should freeze Kane and treat him when they get home.
The cast have said in making-of documentaries that they knew what was going to happen in the dinner scene (because all the effects equipment had to be set up) but not the extent of the blood and gore which created all their shocked reactions.
Say what you will about smoking on the Nostromo, it probably scrubs the air at the rates they did when smoking was allowed on airlines, which makes it... well, slightly less miserable outside of needing to convert CO2 back to oxygen and carbon rods... but still better quality air than what we get on a modern airline.
There’s such a huuuuuge world when you take into account the books, the comics, and the audio dramas of the alien. I know you’re a bit late to the party but I highly recommend a deep dive. 😄
Idk who said it but apparently the Xenomorph was reaching the end of it's Lifespan by the end of the film, without a queen and without obvious prey it had no reason to stay alive. Along with its saliva, which they use to build their hive like in the books and film, the Xenomorph put itself in a position to become a part of the hive which is why Xenomorph hives look like they're covered in ribcages and bones, it's the exoskeletons of dozens of xenomorphs Fused together with saliva and bodily fluids.
I wonder too if once the hive is formed proper it performs some sort of biological support to the surviving xenomorohs to preserve them, kinda like Zerg Creep in Starcraft.
Great video, but my favorite part was when you briefly mentioned how no one's really sure exactly why we yawn. I've known so many people who have presented one of the many theories to me as absolute fact. It was a small inclusion, but something very personally satisfying to me to hear.
10:52 @RoanokeGaming It is believed the eggs produce the Mist as some type of Atomospheric Trip Line/ Trigger. Gotta read the comics man, this stuff gets wierd, there's even a comic about a scientist who was trapped on a planet and the Xenos actually experimented on them because the Xenos were dying do a mold. And he goes nuts about the monsters
I'm glad you brought up conjugation because my suspicion for a while is that the Xenomorphs' integration of external genetics is facilitated through a plasmid mechanic. This could help explain how you can still get "pure" Drones that nevertheless spawn from hosts and how the Predalien was intended to be an immature Praetorian (the immediate precursor to the Queen) despite those variants usually being implied to also be "pure" in extended lore.
Mr. Roanoke, thank you for covering this. I grew up watching these movies with my mom and I've loved your channel since I found it. Alien is by far one of my most favorite creatures and I've really been looking forward to seeing an actual scientist break this thing down
Yep, perhaps the first trans person ever portrayed in a big-budget movie and most people have no idea. And honestly, her emotional reactions to what's going on makes WAY more sense than half the decisions the other crew members made.
@@furiousapplesack don't forget - forcibly trans as a child, too. She was basically a weyland yutani guinea pig. And the cut scene that no one can agree on her demise (the creepy crab walk scene) is horrifying if it had been left in. As one youtuber i follow put it - everything about the Xenomorph is assault in one form or another.
I do not know about the in depth lore but they seems real interesting and enriches each character. I do know Lambert’s death is supposed to hint that she was r*ped by the xenomorphs tho and I definitely did not realize that as a kid but I always wonder why the tail went up her legs like that
@@Nicholas_Chen_ Alien Theory and Project Acheron do talk about alt scripts, the screenplays turned into graphic novels (the Alien 3 is even more terrifying in its originality vs what we got).
@@daniellandon6811They are cool I have been casually watching their videos but I will make sure to check those in depth videos out! I know there is an Alien 3 comic and I know it’s brief outline but I will dive deeper into it! Knowing key beats in that version of Alien 3 like Ripley is alive but in a coma, Newt and Hicks are also alive makes me very happy, I would prefer that over the actual Alien 3 we’ve got.
Regarding black goo, I have developed this explanation: the engineers find, on some planet, the deacon (i.e. the creature we see in the final seconds of Prometheus), giving him great honors due to the healing abilities of his blood (proof of this is the fact that the deacon is at the center of a mural in the laboratory-temple seen in Promtetheus). Maybe the engineers were becoming extinct, maybe they wanted to use it for their purposes of fertilizing the universe... the fact is that there is a strong possibility that the deacon, as a natural species, has become extinct. In an attempt to recreate it, the engineers would have developed two experiments: beings similar to them, and xenomorphs proper. The latter are a direct attempt to reconstruct the deacon, the former could have been used as organic filters, to gradually have xenomorphic beings more and more similar to the starting material: it cannot even be ruled out that the engineers with dark sclera are the result of biological enhancements thanks to black goo.
i thought the mural was of a xenomorph, their lore is as old as the engineers, both were designed to be perfect by a singular race and the engineers in their vanity try to replicate their creators' creations, hence we get the bastardized versions of the xenomorph.
Between Alien and The Thing, i can't decide which on I love more. Also, could the Thing assimilate an Alien? Or would an Alien's biology destroy The Thing?
The thing could infect a xenomorph as they have skin and muscles which would allow for the things cells to assimilate xenomorph dna, making the acidic blood useless. All the thing needs is 1 touch of bare skin and you're infected
My guess would be that it could infect it... until hits the acid part. Then the Thing would likely die very horribly. The acid blood can melt through SciFi alloys used to construct military war ships after all.
@@camarofan2008 it would have to take place in a populated area to give both sides a means of growth. I could totally see it opening like this: a crew went down to a planet and found the eggs, but one crewmember is missing, but catches up when they leave the planet. Then, it's a crew of around 1000 people, one face-hugged victim, and one Thing-imposter. Both species then race to build up their numbers/biomass and in the midst of their growth the two encounter each other for the first time. Probably as an assimilated Human that got Face Hugged, or witnesses the chest-burster. I wonder if the thing would understand the threat and would work with Humans, or if it would just sabotage both sides to keep an advantage over both sides.
My current theory about the alien super acid is that it's a defense mechanism in the same way as sulfuric acid from onions. It only forms the incredibly dangerous substance when it cells are ruptured as a defense but other than that I agree they probably run like batteries and that's why it keeps such a acidic environment to begin with
The fact that Big Chap being a drone did that much damage in the first film,could you imagine if it was a warrior instead not even Ripley would have survived.
I can’t believe it took you this long to do this movie. But I’d love to see you cover 3 and 4 as well since they add some interesting bits of “biology” to these creatures
Hey Roanoke do you plan to do a analysis on the tyranids from 40k? You could do videos on certain hive fleets and their methods of combat. One adapts to dieases and viruses. One makes gigantic beasts and so on.
From what I've read, Facehuggers release a fluid similar to the black goo, but at this point it's refined for specific instructions to create said Xeno. 2:37
I am absolutely DYING to see a video on your take on the biological and social structure of the hive we see in the sequel, Aliens. You really knocked it out of the ballpark with this one!
Bruh i deadass before i went to sleep yesterday thought to myself "Would be great if Roanoke covered Alien" Mad lad read my thoughts, makes it in 1 night and uploads it the next day. Absolute legend
On the fact of how shitty their equipment is, the ship is owned by the Weyland-Yutani corporation who are notorious for cutting costs wherever possible which means even if the the crew wanted to improve the living situation the company has literally forced them to downgrade in an effort to save costs while increasing profits. It's why so many things are haphazardly placed or there are basic necessities for space travel that may be missing, because the company doesn't care.
I would assume that the ship is powered by a nuclear reactor of sorts, so the self destruct is probably a meltdown.. after the 5 minute mark the reaction can’t be stopped in time…
It's explicitly stated in the movie that the self destruct process is shutting down the cooling systems for the reactors (plural, it has more than one reactor, which also explains the multiple explosions).
The commentary on this one is absolutely chef's kiss. I love this movie, but Roanoke pointing out all the whoopsies in the movie are hilarious and interesting.
The reason why the Alien "sleeps" in the escape shuttle was because the original intent was for it to be dying of old age and was just finding a final resting place. But then producers realized they were making bank when this movie came out even with epilepsy cases and said "Fuck it" and got rid of the hyper aging thing they so cleverly thought of originally and to just make a shit ton more movies. -we don't talk about 3 or Resurrection.
This has been the best episode so far with the new format! Theory I've always had about the Nostromo and Ash in regards to the content alluded in the first movie. The ship was always gonna be expendable in the event Ash was discovered as a corporate shill. Had he not been found out and the crew was slaughtered. Ash had a method to not only contain the xeno, but to return the ship to weyalnd-yutani with no crew survived. A similar plan and tactic was effectively gonna be used and failed with Carter Burke being discovered in Aliens.
Thanks for finally covering the xenomorph! I was hoping you would get into some of the Alien Covenant stuff and break that down. Not sure if you watched it but it kinda changed the lore and may have influenced your opinions on what was going on. Also you mentioned how it doesnt appear that the xenomorphs eat but they have been shown to eat dead creatures, namely they've eaten humans in one of the movies, using their little mouth to get the goodies. Thanks for the video, perhaps we could get a sequel based off of Covenant. Take care!
I love the fact that they included the fact that the xeno likes to season their food with fear before they go in for the kill, its a good excuse for why these things give the protagonists just enough time to escape in what should be instant death situations.
Wouldn't it make more sense for the black goo variant to not be injected into the host but instead is store in the face hugger's body? The long tube that was injected into the body could possibly be for DNA collection and those DNA would be send back to the face hugger. Then within it's body it would rapidly developed an egg of the alien egg hybrid using a bigger specialized organ and using the same tube insert the egg into the host. And that probably why it need to hug the host for a while and dies after one injection.
_"This mountain isn't a natural formation..."_ _"That means someone built it..."_ Me, who tries to squeeze in a Mass Effect joke, too: *_"Your grasp of the obvious is inspiring."_*
One of my favorite creatures in fiction. Alien and Aliens are some of my favorite movies ever so I'm very excited to see your analysis of the Xenomorph
Great stuff as usual, though the occasional exploding xenomorph may have less to do with their blood chemistry and more with the love Marines have for their grenades. Great to see your work paying off, dude
Tbh I never really understood where the concept of exploding xenomorphs come from I don’t think Aliens specifically showed that they explode upon being critically hit. They always seems like just spraying acid, lots of acid to me. Also the depiction of xenomorph depends on each film and are often an artistic choice rather than making scientific sense, for example the dog alien in 3 was supposed to look more acrobatic and its Amber yellow/brown colour does not resemble the black shells of the human-born xeno in the previous films at all and the dorsal tubes are removed so it could look more sleek, the Resurrections xenomorphs (aka cloned xenomorphs) were designed to be more organic and fleshy and a filthy brown in colour to reflect the atmosphere of that film, but they just painted them black for AVP and reused them where they are clearly meant to be main strain drones like the big chap. I do like that design though probably my favourite xeno design as it just looks so sleek especially in AVP.
@@Nicholas_Chen_ Yeah, the ability to take the series seriously is definitely harmed by the lack of reliable continuity. If I remember correctly, they kill the xenomorph in Alien 3 with thermal shock, something that's never touched on before, during, or after in the series as far as I know. It's pretty wild
@@Mad_Oph because in that case it was killed by thermodynamics, first they poured molten led on him (his carapace) and then it was hit with cold water when it jumped out, what is there more they should touch on?
@nicholaschen4432 the exploding makes sense in 2 and Resurrection dur to the weaponry they were using, Pulse Rifles are 10mm explosive tipped bullets and I think Smart Guns use the same ammo while the pirates in 4 were running with fairly heavy ordinance, 3 they basically superheated then rapidly cooled it so the alien went pop. For the rest of the material not involving Colonial Marines its pretty much just rule of cool or to make your life hell in the videogames.
To answer your hypothetical question, Brett is standing in the landing gear bay when he gets merked. The big thing in the middle of the room is the foot of the strut, folded up.
Hey! I’m one of the people that has been waiting for years for you to do alien. I’m excited to see you cover the other films on the franchise. Now I want you to do the Genestealer Cults from Warhammer 40k
Another bit to think on in terms of how Xenos reproduce with humans: In "Alien: Resurrection," Ripley-8 is cloned from Queen-impregnated Ellen Ripley, which seems to imply that Xeno incubation doesn't just borrow DNA from the host, but alters the host. Perhaps this is evidence towards the Facehugger depositing the liquid Pathogen (Black Goo), as opposed to an embryo or larva.
It was a tug ship designed for space operation hence lacking any aerodynamics. That’s why it was beaten up during the descent. Not bad captaincy. Did you watch that scene?
Watching Prometheus before alien is definitely heresy. I was born in '85 and my mother was watching it whilst in labour which gave me the nickname jonesy because she remembers Brett (Harry Dean Stanton. May he rest in peace) calling for the cat. I guess I technically saw the end of the film before the whole thing but I was really young the first time I saw it.
I always thought the crew was stupid for not following any quarantine protocols but in today’s context, it all makes sense cause there are a lot of people who would put their lives at risk by not following quarantine protocols. It’s lucky were not dealing with aliens
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Just read the World War Z novel, my god the parts dealing with the outbreak and how people just ignored it or deemed it an issue for the poor/homeless was insane. Basically by the time most people take it seriously, it is already too late and the zombies have reached critical mass.
I know this is old but on them sleeping in those pods, theoretically they could not age at all or extremely slow. The faster you travel through space, the slower you travel through time. So if they had engines that could travel almost as fast as light, the 10 months back on earths date could literally just be a few days. This isn’t related but just a neat factoid, the people who go to space and lives on the space stations orbiting earth traveling around 1700mph at all times and for every 1 year they spend in space, they are around 4 seconds younger than they should be.
its the same process as if it were an ant colony. a singular facehugger made a drone that brought enough people and bio mass to a dark warm and wet environment, now we have two confirmed methods of queens spawning, Drones can molt into a queen which suggests they carry the dormant genetic coding like some frogs do that produce asexually or swap sexes. the other method was that somewhere in the ship there was a royal face hugger egg which exclusively spawns only queens and praetorian guards.
It's nice to see you attempting to make sense of the lore of this series. One thing I heard was that during development the idea of the chestburster would biomechanicaly "build" its main body which eventually became the iconic mouth tongue. I like the idea of a biological battery but I have to wonder why bother with a mouth if the criter doesn't actually eat. I've never been a fan of the idea of the criters being completely artificial hopefully at some point we can get look at their home planet where they fit in the ecosystem etc. Great video 👍🏻 👍🏻
the face huggers lay EGGS!!!!! lets not make the "black goo" from Prometheus, canon for the original story for the Aliens and how they reproduce! **face palms**
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I had a lot of fun watching you analysing this film, your puns are on point and are actually hilarious, which can't be said about this film which is serious. Yeah, I very much agree with your theory of their blood being a conductor and a nervous system. As you mentioned, they do not need oxygen to survive, they are probably self-powered, almost like a sustainable battery system powered by itself. However there are depictions where they are shown or hinted at eating, and they are shown to have digestive systems like intestines in Alien Resurrection and AVP1 where there are scenes of its guts falling down - however I take them with a giant pinch of salt as I am aware each film is helmed by a different writer and director and the lore is not consistent, so you can take what you need with them. In terms of what kind of acid the blood actually is - I generally accept whichever acid that has the closest property as depicted in the films, as I am no Chemist so it would likely be what you suggested, fluoroacetic acid. Also the one thing that never really made sense to me was the floorplan of Nostromo, it just seems so big and so small and claustrophobic at the same time. You also have my sympathies for watching Prometheus before this OG masterpiece - it's crazy it was made by the same director, I guess Ridley let those black goo/xeno juice or whatever get into his head.
How about covering the body mimicking space bacteria from the anime movie Lily C.A.T.? It takes inspiration from both Alien and The Thing. Plus, it'd probably be the first animated movie you've covered here.
Fun fact, there's a popular fanfic in which Jonesy attacks and injurs the chstburster before it completes its metamorphosis, which stunts its growth and explains why its smaller than aliens in the future movies. Not canon obviously, i just really like that fanfic. Its just called Jonesy i think
Are you planning on doing another video on zenomorph biology specifically the queen zeno and the runner. Also I'm curious about your thoughts on alien covenant and how it fits your hypnosis.
On one hand I want to say you did a great job of explaining the new "black goo" version of the Xenomorph reproduction cycle but honestly I really preferred the version of the Xenomorph we saw in Alien/Aliens (and to a lesser extant the DarkHorse comics and related novels where the facehugger just inserted its embryo and the host was just that, a host for it reproduce itself. It just made more sense because the black goo's ability to produce viable species without fail while combining what really should be incompatible biological traits is IMHO a bit beyond the pale. That and the fact that in Covenant it seems to take on the "mutated species just keep passing on the black goo and wildly mutating again" trope which seems counter-intuitive. I mean it would have made sense for the Engineers to design the goo as a means to jumpstart evolution and pass on certain traits but once it does it's job that should be the end of the matter. Just my opinion though, again, great video!
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Hey Roanoke I don’t know if you’ve ever watched the 1998 film Sphere, but I wanted to know your take on how the sphere manifests a person’s subconscious thoughts into reality. Would it be some kind of reality warping tech or are they group hallucinations.
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Keep it up! I honestly love your stuff. Awesome rewatch value!
Here I am hoping another 4 years for Metroids or X Parasites.
I love your point about the hypersleep. One of the things I've always thought about it as well is imagining the Alien series from Ripley's perspective around hypersleep.
She literally detonates the Nostromo. Goes to sleep and wakes up 50 years later. Endures the events of Aliens. Goes to sleep again and wakes up on a prison world with everyone she knows dead and the Alien present.
Her life from Alien onwards in terms of awake time is like a month of total horror.
Well a few months, she spends some time as a dockworker in 2.
@@reverendrico5631 THANK YOU to people who ACTUALLY KNOW THE MOVIES
@@weareeverywhere6677 yeah Roanoke messed up a lot in this video, regarding their pods: its a stasis pod, it is stated in one of the books that 1/10 of the time goes by inside the pod, she was away for 57 years but only really experienced 5,7 years in actual aging, even Parker says "freeze him". One of the DLC names for Colonial Marines is "Stasis interrupted"....but by his logic she would be 80 years old or probably dead by bed soars when they find her...what a baffoon.
@@DerDrecksack87imagine calling someone a baffoon over a pointless mistake
@@DerDrecksack87You really used as reference a novel and a dlc of one of the worst games ever made.
Its clear almost no one will know that information.
Imagine dooming your friends and probably your entire race because a computer went beep-beep and told you to check something dangerous in a probably hostile enviroment.
If humans thought like you we'd never make it to the stars
Nah they went through a dangerous and hostile environment because they wouldn’t get paid otherwise
@@johnnyboygriffin5764 if you are going to somewhere unknown you should be protected and prepared, the characters were'nt prepared to deal with an hostile organism.
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The nose bleed is from an abandoned scene where they try to blow the Alien out an airlock, but fail. During the scene, Ripley is caught in the airlock for a brief moment during decompression. Later, the nosebleed was supposed to be a physical sign of her injury during the decompression accident. There are some still images and may be some rough footage filmed, but the scene was abandoned.
The idea of blowing the alien out of an airlock is actually used in Aliens and Alien: Isolation as well.
Also, he said "she was fine when the second door closed," but you can clearly see she has blood in the same spot under her left nostril there...
What’s more terrifying is apparently because of the exoskeleton and internal, they are built like waterbears and their biggest problem in a vacuum is more cold slowing their bodies and throwing them into a stasis than actually dying
So in Aliens she basically shot the queen onto some poor random world to create a new nest
@@kyze8284 they are built like inorganic machines surviving all types of atmosphere and air pressure. The protean worker for the Engineer race.
@@kyze8284 not really. If thermal cracking doesn't kill, her she would burn up on reentry and what's left would just go splat on LV426.
There is a great creepypasta called FELINE. It’s Alien, but from the perspective of Jonesy, who it turns out is a genetically engineered super kitty created to hunt space-rats. When two perfect organisms clash it gets pretty wild. It also suggests a reason why the Big chap in alien is relatively soft and squishy but the ones in Aliens are pretty much bullet proof to pistols.
That's not a creepypasta that's literally the plot of an official alien parody book I'm not making that up
Pls link me this! I wanna read/see it!
the aliens in Aliens were super tough and durable because they were all part of the warrior caste, where as Big Chap was just a drone
@songsoftheriver i spent ages finding this. Its actually called "My Day" not FELINE.
This one: ua-cam.com/video/ejiUCtKr-3A/v-deo.htmlsi=DXZxHPzyfhMDCEqe
That wasn't just some cruiser or lander. That was Nostromo itself.
Many people who see this movie presume Nostromo was that huge structure, but no. Nostromo was a towing ship. The 4 towers we see are actually a mixture of refinery and storage. Basicaly, they mine the ore, fill up the storage with it and on their way back home, the refinery does its job. By the time they get home, ore is refined.
Yup! It was the tractor cab of the semi truck, basically.
Their acid blood always made me think of these arachnid creatures from Kotor that were venomous, but made me believe they could melt armor back then.
Kinrath?
Yes. Been a while since I’ve played it.
@@justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233it's definitely the kinkrath I just got past that part
On Kashyyyk or Dantooine?
@@justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233 kashyyk mainly but there's a couple on koriban in the cave system that you find the apprentices trying to excape from the sith
One point about aliens exploding when shot in Aliens, there's a moment where Ripley asks Gorman what the rifles fire. Lt. Gorman replies: "10 millimeter explosive tip caseless. Standard light armor piercing rounds."
The bullets are designed to explode. Either to make penetrating light armor a not-challenge and/or explode inside of targets.
I figured it might also have been because there was an internal pressure in the Xenomorphs possibly due to the acidic blood.
I think it's a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B. the 10mm rounds don't really pack that much explosives, so while it may be enough to blow off someone's arm or liquefy their organs, it wouldn't be enough to fully blow someone apart like it does with the aliens, so the blood is most likely volatile and set off by the explosive rounds.
Abit like the bolters from WH 40k I guess.
@@jedidiahmayes7167 Both from the lore, it is why in many sources when fighting Xenomorphs they aim for the head, less pressure than the chest thus less acid going everywhere.
@@adrianaslund8605 pretty much in effect though with differences, the rounds aren't rocket propelled, 10mm caseless travels like a standard round, but upon impact like a bolt round has a microsecond delayed detonation fuse to ensure it explodes inside the target, the difference with bolt rounds I believe is the fuse is mass reactive detonating upon a certian distance in the target depending on the amount of mass it's encountered so the timing varies slightly (matter of miliseconds) to ensure maximum damage, if it detonated on the same timing for a human as needed for an Ork the round would over penatrate and be well past the human before exploding (not that the 37mm hole wouldn't still be fatal). 10mm caseless is just a standard time delayed fuse.
On a point of hypersleep. The original script did call for them to be fluid filled and the idea was it dropped their motabolism because the ship only carried 24 hours worth of oxygen (a deleted line explains this which is why they're so desperate to find the alien before they go back in the freezers)
As for the the nostromo entering the atmosphere it wasn't designed to land on a planet except in emergencies. Add to this rough storm force winds and uneven terrain it's no surprise it took damage... Also the nostromo is an old ship with a lot of wear and tear
Kane's line about being in a cave makes more sense if you've read the script. As the jockey ship has landed on a buried pyramid like structure which is where the eggs are. When he's going down the shaft you can hear him say to Dallas that he's "below the level of the ship" right before it opens up into the cave. It's an easy to miss detail.
Also the reason why Ripley and ash can't just radio them is because they're behind rock formations in a heavy storm with high ionisation in the air (as mentioned when they study the planet) so radio signal is cut off. (Mountains tend to do that to radios)
It's worth pointing out the image you used for analysing the alien structure appears to be from a later film.
Big chap (the one from alien) has 2 thumbs one either side. With the fingers fused in pairs. The hands you describe are more inline with the 2nd film. Also the tail has a stinger like structure similar to a scorpion (as seen when Lambert is grabbed) which according to the original writers contained a venom to paralysis the victims (this would have originally been what knocks gorman out in aliens but they changed it during filming)
The reason why the self destruct can't be stopped after 5 minuets is because it's not a bomb. If you read the panel with the instructions what she's doing is dumping the coolant from the fusion engine core. After 5 minuets it's already over heated to the point that it's losing containment and pumping the coolant back in is not going to do anything (and would probably burst the pipes as the coolant super heats)
See what I mean, Ro? We've been at this a few years. 😁Nice work @crwydryny. I love the video, but can't help but poke fun at my dude.
This is some neat stuff I didn't know, thanks!
Noice
and yet another reason to NOT BE SMOKING IN A GOD DAMN SPACE SHIP!
Gotta love alien fans. Thanks for the deets.
You are correct: John Hurt knew about the chestburster; no one else did. The other actress - not Sigourney Weaver - apparently threw up when they called 'cut.'
I feel oddly ashamed for thinking that was weird. Media has really desensitized us. My mom watched these things around me with no regard as a very small child and now, I want find things scary so bad, but don't. Pray for me😂
I'm now 60yrs old. I took my parents to watch it at the local drive in cinema when I was 15 yrs old, with the crappy hook over the window mono speaker. Did they like it? They were too shocked to comment. I think that's a thumbs up?
That deserves more than a thumbs up;
That sounds like it was a great experience
I was a young lad, just had a major surgery. My dad rolls in the TV cart, pops on this nugget then proceeds to walk out to talk to the doc for the duration of the film……
Legend
What a beautiful memory
@@scottricks1676 based dad
The giggle at "Master Debaters" and then the next few seconds where you can literally hear his smile while he talks made me laugh big time. Never change Roanoke
The actors knew that Kane's death scene would coincide with the emergence of the Alien as of course they read the script, but they did not know exactly how it was going to happen. They filmed up to the part where Kane started convulsing, then asked the other actors to leave the room and set up Kane's actor(John Hurt) for the chestburster scene before calling the other actors back in.
The explosive acid blood could also be that the blood is pressurized which causes it to spray out when the body is damaged.
Pressurized blood is one of the theories. It's why the damage is so explosive when an adult is shot in the chest region. Safest means to shoot a xeno: legs then head because the pressure isn't as strong in those areas.
I mean, I always figured that the Xenomorphs had natural hydraulics and pneumatics to move and explain their immense strength as well. Their exoskeletons are robust enough to survive in space for undisclosed amounts of time.
“Just sit around the table and talk about anything that ISN’T about the movie.”
The script just said “It emerges”, the blond lady fainted, scared the heck out of everybody else not knowing if he was actually having a medical problem
I heard that they knew about it but that it had malfunctioned a number of times and not popped out of the chest on command so that when it happened it was a genuine surprise, not that they didn't know what would happen but when.
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it has a tail, you're better off trying to set them on fire as they've shown insect-like behaviour and heat is effective was both weakening material and expanding
Couple things: hyper sleep pauses or extremely slows aging
-They have radio, but it donks out on them due to atmospheric interference
-When Cain says the mist reacts, he's talking about the sound it makes
I've always wondered if the eggs create the mist - is it like a tripwire telling them to get ready to grab face, or maybe a stasis thingie created by the Engineers. Because I too am disgusted by Prometheus, I've also always wondered whether a dead queen laid all those eggs after the ship crashed or was it carrying them as cargo or what?
I believe it was supposed to be a status field keeping the eggs asleep (based off the older AVP games)
@@ElijahNMitchell that makes some sense, and implies that the eggs were being carried somewhere, which also makes sense, bcz if they'd been laid by a queen after the crash instead of being an intentional shipment, where did she wander off to?
If I remember the Prometheus behind the scenes info correctly, the ships in Prometheus were said to be war ships, and the Engineers there were creating bioweapons. They were in a civil war back then. The Engineers may have found a way to make the xenomorphs as we know them (or just caught some of the ones David made), and the ship the Nostromo crew found was on its way to drop those on the enemy side before the pilot got killed. That's probably how those eggs ended up there, unless they decide to make a movie about how it happened.
@@rozu7772 I refuse to accept Prometheus as canon, but thanks all the same for taking the time to reply 🙂👍
@@zachw2906 I don't really like Prometheus either to be honest, way too similar to the original Alien movies and just makes the story less cool (also the characters were far dumber, really bugged me).
I do wonder what the story could've been behind the space jockey and xenomorphs without the Prometheus movies though. I like to think xenomorphs were pest control, maybe they were like alien cats that hunted alien rats or just any problems in general. They would be perfect for the job with how adaptable they are. The space jockey could've been an exterminator going off delivering them when one escaped. 😂 Genetically engineered bioweapons that get out of control just feels too clichéd at this point, wish they didn't go with that idea.
So glad you did this one!!! It may be controversial to bring in AvP lore, but some things that happened in that first AvP movie may indicate that the acid isn't blood. The acid seems to be located within a layer maybe between the epidermis and the actual cardiovascular system, acting as a defense mechanism. Kinda like how a bombardier beetle can house hazardous chemicals in its abdomen. Also, a predator was able to dissect a dead alien without getting completely blasted by acid. All of this could be the director of AvP blatantly ignoring established lore, but would love to hear your thoughts anyways!
Resdy the original comic instead. AMAZING! The movie is worse than aids
@@captnwinklestill not as bad as Prometheus
You are spot on about honeybee genetics. A queenless hive can develop laying worker syndrome, where the worker bees actually develop ovaries and eggs. Then they try to lay eggs (since a stinger is an adapted ovipositor), but they aren’t fertilized and end up becoming little drones. Then the hive dies. 😢
It can be a pain to fix if it happens. It only happened to me once and I caught it early. I introduced a new queen and they settled down after a week. If it gets bad enough they will kill any queen you put in there- $90 (2008) down the drain. At that point you move the hive a couple hundred yards away, shake and brush all the bees off the frames and in the box, and move the empty hive back. Then you can introduce a queen. Because you just brushed off all laying workers and left them where they can’t find their way home. So now all the foragers come back, realize they need to do housekeeping duty, and make sure the new queen gets going.
It’s amazing what goes on inside those little noggins!
First royal jelly feeding several in cells to make them queens then they fight.
Bees are beyond interesting!
The coma does suspend them somehow though. A major plotpoint of the second film is that Ripley is suspended long enough for her infant daughter to die of old age. The suspension pod on the escape pod from the Nostromo.
So they don't age for sure.
Side note: They seem really uncoordinated in the space jackey scene because they had kids in mini space suits act out the scenes to make the set seem more daunting.
Ripley's daughter was 11 when she left on the mission in the first movie. Odd that in a world with deep space travel dying in your mid to late sixties is considered natural causes.
In the expanded material the physical body ages 1 year for every 10 years in suspension
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@@tamakunminnip2117 this is a future where everyone still smoked like chimneys remember. And probably drank like the Irish.
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@@elinabaker137 so she should have been 6 years older in aliens? Interesting
A cat missing 1 meal let alone 2 makes it almost as dangerous as the Xenomorph
I'm surprised Jonesy didn't start hunting the Xenomorph tbh
Time to watch Roanoke explain my favorite alien species.
Waiting on getting to its FEET!
Same dude. I just love the xenomorphs. They may not be THE perfect organism in all of fiction, but they're born survivors
@@JohnSagin-SimViDeLucis579indeed the feet are key.
Let me know if he ever does lol
6:00 “ it’s an ugly world , a buu.. ALIEN world “ omg I lost my shit lol. Starship troopers was a gift to humanity we did not deserve
27:34 never realized how unnaturally chill that cat is as a monster shows up and attacks a person. i've seen cats freak out over far less, lol.
Maybe they gave it catnip before filming?
He's a cool cat
Maybe it liked the suit actor. That is a person in there
I was thinking at that time the cat was infected by the creature, so the alien was all chill about it. It could tell already it was infected. Also they could of just drugged the cat, the 70s didn't have the same kind of protection for animals as they do today. There was one movie I remember seeing years ago and the cat was tied to the chair with those plastic ties.
You're completely wrong about the stasis pods. At the end of the movie, when Ripley defeats the alien and is able to go into hyper-sleep, she's unfortunately is untracked by the home system and stays in suspended animation for 57 years. Yet, when she's awoken she's only aged just a few years (the same amount of years Sigourney Weaver aged in real RL). Sadly, Ripley's daughter dies of old age before she is found and returned. So the pods DO slow down aging a very considerable amount.
You're missing the point, in universe, yes the pods slow aging. It's just shown poorly, or at least to 70s sci-fi thinking. The pods don't seem to do anything that would be needed for suspended animation, which is what they were going for. Like Roanoke said, it looks like it just puts them to sleep. Which would not stop aging, or cellular degeneration, or even metabolism by that much. In other words, you would still age, starve, and die. To stop all that you'd need to somehow have stupid low tempatures, while also not destroying tissue. Or super sci-fi energy field stasis.
that may be what they were going for, but in this case you're the completely wrong one. story wise sure they might be supposed to slow aging, but all theyre shown to do is put you in a comatose state. no further tech was shown, no cryo or metabolic suspension. so really ripley survived 57 years because of movie magic.
And xenomorphs grow and exist by movie magic. I mean their ability to convert food (what did it eat? Not like Nostromo had a lot of rats in the ducts) into bodymass, their ability to slobber buckets of drool despite never consuming liquids... It's all garbage
Lol that’s what it looks like when a point goes completely past someone. He did watch the movie, he’s aware of what it was supposed to be. Even other flicks of the period had done a more comprehensive job of cryo/hyper sleep. I think it was probably just a cost saving “people won’t think about it too hard” kind of thing
@@kauinoa2004 I would say it's more like, Ridley didn't think some dude was gonna make a Sequel 57 yrs later, thus didn't need to explain that
36:20 Why can't the self-destruct be aborted after the five minute mark, Roanoke? It's because the self-destruct mechanism doesn't use a bomb, so much as it causes the engines to overheat and reach the critical point. Once it's triggered and reaches a certin point there's simply not enough time to shut them back down and stop the buildup of heat before it hits the critical point.
which is still a massive design flaw
In my opinion, I think the reason why they explode when “hit” is because they are under pressure using a form of organic hydraulic system. I think this would explain the force of the inner jaw (would it be a proboscis?) can hit with enough force to puncture the human skull.
Turns out in Aliens they outright say the pluse rifle is firing semi-armor piecing, high explosive ammo (SAPHE).
The effects got carried over in the other films. Despite the explanation not being applicable in all the films.
The inner jaw projects at high speed due to the muscle structure that can generate high forces similar to regular jaw muscles of sharks or crocs that can clamp down with destructive power
Pharyngeal jaw actually. And yeah, same. Their bodies are composed of high pressure liquid that allows them immense strength and surprisingly fast movement(in bursts).
they use, as standard for any off-world operations, or just in general, SAPHE rounds as someone else mentioned, they arent full of fluid as some people want to think, weve seen the inside of a alien and its basically solid tissue, probably extra dense muscle
18:26 yup, that’s genuine shock. I think the wavy black haired guy even locked himself in a closet after this scene because he was so upset
I can’t wait for you to cover Aliens and their hive structures and Alien 3 where we actually see one “eat”. Also we definitely need a shirt that says “stay strapped or get clapped” please I would love one haha
There is even a far much worse *Variant* or unique caste of Chestbursters presented in the Comics that doesn't molt / mature into an adult. Not only that but it had a vast variety of toxins or literal venom that either melted the infected or caused them to explode. As if xenomorph already werent bad enough!
From Aliens: Kidnapped
Which variant is that?
@nicholaschen4432
The gore burster, a varient of the body burster (a xeno varient that skipped the chestburster phase all together) a failed recreation attempt that resulted in a jet black chestburster that would leave a gooey pink slime wherever it went.
@@yourpersonalflotationdevice The colony it landed on ended up being nuked because the slime trail became airborne and started infecting everyone.
Luckily the goreburster was a mutation caused by infection with an unknown virus as the alien eventually died a few hours after being born soo it was a one of a kind mutant
I love exploring these metabolisms that seem so much superior to human metabolism. Aliens really open the door to questions like, "if we had to custom engineer the best lifeform, what would that look like?" The Xenomorph seems to fit the bill. Can survive in almost any environmental condition, even hard vacuum of space, is both powerful and intelligent, and has incredible defenses with its acid blood and biological armor. It just has everything.
It can use the DNA of its host organism to build a creature tailored to fit the environment it in. That is absolutely brilliant bc it takes the denouement of the first sci fi book (war of the worlds) and turns it on its head. I love the alien universe and absolutely terrified of it
I've long since viewed the xenomorph as basically unfair, its physical attributes are excessive even for a 'monster' and they're so good at hiding. You could be in a perfectly spherical, all white, well lit room with no obstacles or furniture, and the damn thing would still find a way to hide. They're probably my favorite hostile creature.
The acid blood doubles as a defense just that it is part of its rock crusher metabolism.
Okay, David😂😂😂
Also, I'd love to see your take on, while it was a deleted scene, egg morphing. A pretty ingenious way to continue the species without the presence of a Queen.
In the novels, a drone without a Queen nearby would eventually molt into a new Queen on its own. I think Earth Hive stated it was a few weeks to two months. Something like that.
I remember there is a fan theory the Big Chap is molting into a Queen which may explain why it was so lazy in the escape shuttle. It's waiting to molt.
It is actually a canonical part of the Franchise now, actually!
In the absence of a Queen, a Drone will create a small hive so one of them can either molt into a Queen or a Queen Facehugger can be produced.
I don't know what to consider canon, because movies, novels, comics and games all change the rules.
The 2 main explanations are:
1) the strongest "hybrid" alien go through mutations to slowly purify its DNA from the "host" until it became a "praetorian" (that it's an immature queen) then it can grow up form a cocon and became one.
2) an egg if there isn't any queen around can mutate and became a "praetorian egg" that create a pure alien embryo that can develop un to a queen.
@@emib6599 There was a book released a while back called "The Wayland-Yutani Company Report" that basically clears up the Canon.
If I remember correctly, there are three ways for a xenomorph hive to continue or be established.
1) Eggmorphing: A Drone will established a hive by using a host to produce an egg and then a new host to make a new Drone.
2) Molting. Any Xenomorph within the hive has the ability to molt into a Queen if necessary.
3) Royal Facehugger. The Hive will be produce a Royal Facehugger to produce a Queen.
The alien didn't react to her entering the lifeboat because it was actually dying of age by then. Drones don't live long especially away from the nest, their only source of nutrition. In the directors cut, she finds Dallas and Burke in the ships bowels while detonating the core. Burke has been mostly turned into another egg and Dallas is almost to the same point. He begs Ripley to kill him, which she does, and that destroys the aliens budding respite. It then flees into the lifeboat, as it knows the ship is going boom boom. Imagine by that point it's an elderly human, and it knows it'll die if it stays there. So it went there to hibernate until the lifeboat reaches somewhere that isn't exploding. These things can do that, apparently. Hibernate near death until it gets the chance to restart? Aliens, bro. Aliens.
Burke? You mean Bret? You got your Aliens in my Alien, bro!
We need you to weigh in on the difference between the Drone xenos and Warrior xenos, some believe Drones mature into Warriors, others believe Warriors are a different variant entirely, and I would love to know how other variants such as Crushers, Spitters, and Bursters are created, considering many of the places they show up are inhabited solely by humans, or one or two other species despite the wide variety of variants present.
Crushers apparently are created when a runner (the xenomorph from alien 3) is pretty much given a diet of royal jelly and metal
most of them are actually explained when theyre introduced, they were mostly experiments by the weyland corp on alien genetics to be able to control them, and Drones do molt into warriors, the majority of implantations will result in a drone, some will make a Praetorian, and even fewer will make a queen, the rest are either a "natural" evolution of the species or experiments by one group or another
The reason you can't deactivate the self destruct is because it's done by removing the coolant rods from a reactor, at a certain point putting the rods back in doesn't stop the reaction. That's what I thought anyway.
That is what I recall too, after five minutes, the reactor system is too damaged to safely return to operation and simply continues its merry way to asploding. Not that melting down nuclear reactors can 'explode' without outside help. Like maybe a reactor 'meltdown geometry' that is designed to CAUSE a 'prompt critical' when the melted fuel all around the core slags through the 'stand-by' section and all drops into the "Good-bye pit" or whatever...but hey, "It's a movie!" I do wonder, though...
But yes, I think if you have a good high rez version of the movie on a nice TV you can actually read something from inside that warning cap mentioning more about the five minute limit. Maybe I should watch it again and make sure. :)
Given that Ripley and Jonesy remain in stasis for 57 years without aging, I think we can rule out the notion that you continue to age in stasis.
need to watch Alien 2 now
@@RoanokeGamingYeah, I was confused when you said that because there's multiple instances in pre/post alien 3 and pre/post Prometheus where people are trapped in cryo sleep for decades
I do like the idea of the face hugger using the black goo to genetically splice the host DNA with xenomorph DNA in the embryo, rather than ignoring the Prometheus movies to only focus on the original Alien movies. The xenomorph is clearly some sort of bio weapon, we just didn't need to know who originally created them since it's not really important. I also like that AVP was mentioned because I like the idea that the predators found them first and started using them as big game for hunting, using humans as hosts because it bred a xenomorph favorable to them for their hunts. The xenomorph's creator doesn't matter because they're so old and clearly not around anymore, just the fact that the black goo is important to their reproduction.
That was actually established in one of the comics (Don't remember the name, unfortunately)
Their creators are probably still out there but since they ultimately led to their own undoing with creating such a disgusting vile beast definitely let the majority of them to their downfall and only a small pockets of this race surviving out in the far reaches of space that's what happens when you play God it doesn't end well.
The multiple explosions from the self destruct is probably because they were towing an ore refiner with them. That was the 4 massive towers on the super structure. Probably had its own separate reactor from the ship itself.
Also, every time I watch this I start singing With Arms Wide Open by Creed when the alien jump scares Dallas.
Alien is such an iconic movie that, in an light novel from japan called Gate, an individual looked into a magical portal and then immediately tried to pull his head back because the first thing he saw were "wierd egg looking things"
And literally EVERYONE else in the room with him started shouting to close that gate, and the individual who put his head through was immediately quarantined with heavy armed guards en mass just outside his room.
So iconic that in a world about realistic military operations in an isekai situation, the immediate military reaction to the idea of alien eggs was "Absolutely not."
also @RoanokeGaming, at 18:55 yeeting his body into space is probably the smartest thing they do. They just saw something burst out of his chest, and since that was the first time anyone had ever seen anything like this, they DEFINETLY were not sure if there were more inside of him.
Thank acheron we finally have the perfect organism for Roanoke to dissect
Also a note that ALOT of people ask the water in the "chain room" is actually the landing gear which was exposed to the atmosphere of LV426.
You GOTTA do the rest of the Alien series!!! Would LOOOOOOVE your scientific breakdown of each variation in each movie
Ripley was in Hypersleep for 57 years between Alien and Aliens and did not noticeably age a day, so the pods are clearly slowing the aging process.
as others have pointed out, including Roanoke, thats whats stated, however it is not whats shown
@@stormjin2242clearly the technology exists that suspends aging almost or entirely, and the individuals aren’t simply rendered comatose and simply immobile. It’s even pointed out in a deleted scene that without going into hypersleep they would continue to consume depleting oxygen supplies.
The assumption is that they must be cryogenically frozen to suspend their metabolic functions, however whilst that’s a predominant function in science-fiction they’ve clearly developed a means of suspending aging without cryogenic means.
How the technology works is unknown, much like their FTL drives we can only surmise it works.
@@stormjin2242it’s clear that the technology exists to reduce the metabolic rate. All throughout the film they refer to the pods as freezers, even noting that they should freeze Kane and treat him when they get home.
The cast have said in making-of documentaries that they knew what was going to happen in the dinner scene (because all the effects equipment had to be set up) but not the extent of the blood and gore which created all their shocked reactions.
Say what you will about smoking on the Nostromo, it probably scrubs the air at the rates they did when smoking was allowed on airlines, which makes it... well, slightly less miserable outside of needing to convert CO2 back to oxygen and carbon rods... but still better quality air than what we get on a modern airline.
There’s such a huuuuuge world when you take into account the books, the comics, and the audio dramas of the alien. I know you’re a bit late to the party but I highly recommend a deep dive. 😄
Idk who said it but apparently the Xenomorph was reaching the end of it's Lifespan by the end of the film, without a queen and without obvious prey it had no reason to stay alive. Along with its saliva, which they use to build their hive like in the books and film, the Xenomorph put itself in a position to become a part of the hive which is why Xenomorph hives look like they're covered in ribcages and bones, it's the exoskeletons of dozens of xenomorphs Fused together with saliva and bodily fluids.
I wonder too if once the hive is formed proper it performs some sort of biological support to the surviving xenomorohs to preserve them, kinda like Zerg Creep in Starcraft.
Great video, but my favorite part was when you briefly mentioned how no one's really sure exactly why we yawn. I've known so many people who have presented one of the many theories to me as absolute fact. It was a small inclusion, but something very personally satisfying to me to hear.
Yea somehow people can't seem to think that it could be a mix of things either
10:52 @RoanokeGaming It is believed the eggs produce the Mist as some type of Atomospheric Trip Line/ Trigger. Gotta read the comics man, this stuff gets wierd, there's even a comic about a scientist who was trapped on a planet and the Xenos actually experimented on them because the Xenos were dying do a mold. And he goes nuts about the monsters
I'm glad you brought up conjugation because my suspicion for a while is that the Xenomorphs' integration of external genetics is facilitated through a plasmid mechanic. This could help explain how you can still get "pure" Drones that nevertheless spawn from hosts and how the Predalien was intended to be an immature Praetorian (the immediate precursor to the Queen) despite those variants usually being implied to also be "pure" in extended lore.
The most magnificent biologist and the perfect organism, a match made in heaven for sure.
A nightmare for sure since it fails in one important aspect---it isn't a docile slave as it was designed for.
Mr. Roanoke, thank you for covering this. I grew up watching these movies with my mom and I've loved your channel since I found it. Alien is by far one of my most favorite creatures and I've really been looking forward to seeing an actual scientist break this thing down
He was wrong though on so many things, lacking even surface level research, this was not up to the franchise.
The lore behind every character is interesting. Lambert in particular is one of the more tragic characters via her Weyland Yutani official profile.
Yep, perhaps the first trans person ever portrayed in a big-budget movie and most people have no idea. And honestly, her emotional reactions to what's going on makes WAY more sense than half the decisions the other crew members made.
@@furiousapplesack don't forget - forcibly trans as a child, too. She was basically a weyland yutani guinea pig. And the cut scene that no one can agree on her demise (the creepy crab walk scene) is horrifying if it had been left in. As one youtuber i follow put it - everything about the Xenomorph is assault in one form or another.
I do not know about the in depth lore but they seems real interesting and enriches each character. I do know Lambert’s death is supposed to hint that she was r*ped by the xenomorphs tho and I definitely did not realize that as a kid but I always wonder why the tail went up her legs like that
@@Nicholas_Chen_ Alien Theory and Project Acheron do talk about alt scripts, the screenplays turned into graphic novels (the Alien 3 is even more terrifying in its originality vs what we got).
@@daniellandon6811They are cool I have been casually watching their videos but I will make sure to check those in depth videos out! I know there is an Alien 3 comic and I know it’s brief outline but I will dive deeper into it! Knowing key beats in that version of Alien 3 like Ripley is alive but in a coma, Newt and Hicks are also alive makes me very happy, I would prefer that over the actual Alien 3 we’ve got.
Regarding black goo, I have developed this explanation: the engineers find, on some planet, the deacon (i.e. the creature we see in the final seconds of Prometheus), giving him great honors due to the healing abilities of his blood (proof of this is the fact that the deacon is at the center of a mural in the laboratory-temple seen in Promtetheus).
Maybe the engineers were becoming extinct, maybe they wanted to use it for their purposes of fertilizing the universe... the fact is that there is a strong possibility that the deacon, as a natural species, has become extinct.
In an attempt to recreate it, the engineers would have developed two experiments: beings similar to them, and xenomorphs proper.
The latter are a direct attempt to reconstruct the deacon, the former could have been used as organic filters, to gradually have xenomorphic beings more and more similar to the starting material: it cannot even be ruled out that the engineers with dark sclera are the result of biological enhancements thanks to black goo.
i thought the mural was of a xenomorph, their lore is as old as the engineers, both were designed to be perfect by a singular race and the engineers in their vanity try to replicate their creators' creations, hence we get the bastardized versions of the xenomorph.
@@12gagebastis you might be right, I hope that the future Alien movie that should be released in August will clarify some points, although I doubt it.
The absolute dry, witty and sarcastic humor is my most favorite thing. I love this channel lol.
Between Alien and The Thing, i can't decide which on I love more. Also, could the Thing assimilate an Alien? Or would an Alien's biology destroy The Thing?
The thing could infect a xenomorph as they have skin and muscles which would allow for the things cells to assimilate xenomorph dna, making the acidic blood useless.
All the thing needs is 1 touch of bare skin and you're infected
My guess would be that it could infect it... until hits the acid part. Then the Thing would likely die very horribly. The acid blood can melt through SciFi alloys used to construct military war ships after all.
Damn it, man, now I need a death battle between these two....
Enter the 3rd movie monster, The Slime, thing is already acidic all around so it would easily digest xenomorphs
The Blob (1988)
@@camarofan2008 it would have to take place in a populated area to give both sides a means of growth. I could totally see it opening like this: a crew went down to a planet and found the eggs, but one crewmember is missing, but catches up when they leave the planet. Then, it's a crew of around 1000 people, one face-hugged victim, and one Thing-imposter. Both species then race to build up their numbers/biomass and in the midst of their growth the two encounter each other for the first time.
Probably as an assimilated Human that got Face Hugged, or witnesses the chest-burster. I wonder if the thing would understand the threat and would work with Humans, or if it would just sabotage both sides to keep an advantage over both sides.
An accurate review for Alien.
Nobody listened to the smart lady and everyone died except the smart lady and her cat. 4 out of 5 stars.
Jonesy is best/ cutest boi 🐱
This was anything but accurate....
@@DerDrecksack87 coming from you means...nothing.
My current theory about the alien super acid is that it's a defense mechanism in the same way as sulfuric acid from onions. It only forms the incredibly dangerous substance when it cells are ruptured as a defense but other than that I agree they probably run like batteries and that's why it keeps such a acidic environment to begin with
The fact that Big Chap being a drone did that much damage in the first film,could you imagine if it was a warrior instead not even Ripley would have survived.
The Xenomorph is one of my favorite aliens, I LOVE THIS!
I can’t believe it took you this long to do this movie. But I’d love to see you cover 3 and 4 as well since they add some interesting bits of “biology” to these creatures
Hey Roanoke do you plan to do a analysis on the tyranids from 40k?
You could do videos on certain hive fleets and their methods of combat.
One adapts to dieases and viruses.
One makes gigantic beasts and so on.
Dont forget the genestealers
From what I've read, Facehuggers release a fluid similar to the black goo, but at this point it's refined for specific instructions to create said Xeno. 2:37
I am absolutely DYING to see a video on your take on the biological and social structure of the hive we see in the sequel, Aliens. You really knocked it out of the ballpark with this one!
Bruh i deadass before i went to sleep yesterday thought to myself "Would be great if Roanoke covered Alien"
Mad lad read my thoughts, makes it in 1 night and uploads it the next day. Absolute legend
On the fact of how shitty their equipment is, the ship is owned by the Weyland-Yutani corporation who are notorious for cutting costs wherever possible which means even if the the crew wanted to improve the living situation the company has literally forced them to downgrade in an effort to save costs while increasing profits. It's why so many things are haphazardly placed or there are basic necessities for space travel that may be missing, because the company doesn't care.
I would assume that the ship is powered by a nuclear reactor of sorts, so the self destruct is probably a meltdown.. after the 5 minute mark the reaction can’t be stopped in time…
Yep, The ships are fusion powered, like the atmospherics processor on LV-426 in Aliens.
It's explicitly stated in the movie that the self destruct process is shutting down the cooling systems for the reactors (plural, it has more than one reactor, which also explains the multiple explosions).
The commentary on this one is absolutely chef's kiss. I love this movie, but Roanoke pointing out all the whoopsies in the movie are hilarious and interesting.
The reason why the Alien "sleeps" in the escape shuttle was because the original intent was for it to be dying of old age and was just finding a final resting place. But then producers realized they were making bank when this movie came out even with epilepsy cases and said "Fuck it" and got rid of the hyper aging thing they so cleverly thought of originally and to just make a shit ton more movies.
-we don't talk about 3 or Resurrection.
This has been the best episode so far with the new format!
Theory I've always had about the Nostromo and Ash in regards to the content alluded in the first movie. The ship was always gonna be expendable in the event Ash was discovered as a corporate shill. Had he not been found out and the crew was slaughtered. Ash had a method to not only contain the xeno, but to return the ship to weyalnd-yutani with no crew survived.
A similar plan and tactic was effectively gonna be used and failed with Carter Burke being discovered in Aliens.
Awesome, what a classic monster. By the way, any chance of making a video about the ''Vampire Virus'' from the Stake Land movies?
Those movies are art
Thanks for finally covering the xenomorph! I was hoping you would get into some of the Alien Covenant stuff and break that down. Not sure if you watched it but it kinda changed the lore and may have influenced your opinions on what was going on. Also you mentioned how it doesnt appear that the xenomorphs eat but they have been shown to eat dead creatures, namely they've eaten humans in one of the movies, using their little mouth to get the goodies.
Thanks for the video, perhaps we could get a sequel based off of Covenant. Take care!
I love the fact that they included the fact that the xeno likes to season their food with fear before they go in for the kill, its a good excuse for why these things give the protagonists just enough time to escape in what should be instant death situations.
Spaceballs references 😂I’m here for it 18:39
Oh my god it's finally here. And it's beautiful. Truly a chad Broanoke moment.
I hope I did it justice bro!
Wouldn't it make more sense for the black goo variant to not be injected into the host but instead is store in the face hugger's body?
The long tube that was injected into the body could possibly be for DNA collection and those DNA would be send back to the face hugger. Then within it's body it would rapidly developed an egg of the alien egg hybrid using a bigger specialized organ and using the same tube insert the egg into the host. And that probably why it need to hug the host for a while and dies after one injection.
0:07 is me 🙈
Man I saw this movie when I was a kid and it’s still one of my favorites! Thanks for the cool video!
_"This mountain isn't a natural formation..."_
_"That means someone built it..."_
Me, who tries to squeeze in a Mass Effect joke, too:
*_"Your grasp of the obvious is inspiring."_*
One of my favorite creatures in fiction. Alien and Aliens are some of my favorite movies ever so I'm very excited to see your analysis of the Xenomorph
Great stuff as usual, though the occasional exploding xenomorph may have less to do with their blood chemistry and more with the love Marines have for their grenades. Great to see your work paying off, dude
Tbh I never really understood where the concept of exploding xenomorphs come from I don’t think Aliens specifically showed that they explode upon being critically hit. They always seems like just spraying acid, lots of acid to me. Also the depiction of xenomorph depends on each film and are often an artistic choice rather than making scientific sense, for example the dog alien in 3 was supposed to look more acrobatic and its Amber yellow/brown colour does not resemble the black shells of the human-born xeno in the previous films at all and the dorsal tubes are removed so it could look more sleek, the Resurrections xenomorphs (aka cloned xenomorphs) were designed to be more organic and fleshy and a filthy brown in colour to reflect the atmosphere of that film, but they just painted them black for AVP and reused them where they are clearly meant to be main strain drones like the big chap. I do like that design though probably my favourite xeno design as it just looks so sleek especially in AVP.
@@Nicholas_Chen_ Yeah, the ability to take the series seriously is definitely harmed by the lack of reliable continuity. If I remember correctly, they kill the xenomorph in Alien 3 with thermal shock, something that's never touched on before, during, or after in the series as far as I know. It's pretty wild
@@Mad_Oph because in that case it was killed by thermodynamics, first they poured molten led on him (his carapace) and then it was hit with cold water when it jumped out, what is there more they should touch on?
@nicholaschen4432 the exploding makes sense in 2 and Resurrection dur to the weaponry they were using, Pulse Rifles are 10mm explosive tipped bullets and I think Smart Guns use the same ammo while the pirates in 4 were running with fairly heavy ordinance, 3 they basically superheated then rapidly cooled it so the alien went pop. For the rest of the material not involving Colonial Marines its pretty much just rule of cool or to make your life hell in the videogames.
About damn time. Awesome video! Thank you for all your hard work! We as viewers appreciate it more than you know
To answer your hypothetical question, Brett is standing in the landing gear bay when he gets merked. The big thing in the middle of the room is the foot of the strut, folded up.
at 9:13 i thought u were calling ripley mother and i was like yeah real
11 minutes in. Gotta give Roanoke credit here: he waited 5 years to alienate probably 30% of his fan base 😅
Joy abound!
You know I'm excited for a new Roanoke vid!!
Hey! I’m one of the people that has been waiting for years for you to do alien. I’m excited to see you cover the other films on the franchise.
Now I want you to do the Genestealer Cults from Warhammer 40k
I’m guessing that Roanoke hasn’t seen Alien Covenant. It makes Prometheus look like The Godfather
Another bit to think on in terms of how Xenos reproduce with humans:
In "Alien: Resurrection," Ripley-8 is cloned from Queen-impregnated Ellen Ripley, which seems to imply that Xeno incubation doesn't just borrow DNA from the host, but alters the host. Perhaps this is evidence towards the Facehugger depositing the liquid Pathogen (Black Goo), as opposed to an embryo or larva.
Super excited for this classic, thanks as always for the video Roanoke :) !
I hope you enjoy brother!
I heard somewhere that the real reason we haven't been back to the moon is because we learned that it isn't actually made of cheese.
It was a tug ship designed for space operation hence lacking any aerodynamics. That’s why it was beaten up during the descent. Not bad captaincy. Did you watch that scene?
Watching Prometheus before alien is definitely heresy. I was born in '85 and my mother was watching it whilst in labour which gave me the nickname jonesy because she remembers Brett (Harry Dean Stanton. May he rest in peace) calling for the cat. I guess I technically saw the end of the film before the whole thing but I was really young the first time I saw it.
I always thought the crew was stupid for not following any quarantine protocols but in today’s context, it all makes sense cause there are a lot of people who would put their lives at risk by not following quarantine protocols. It’s lucky were not dealing with aliens
Just read the World War Z novel, my god the parts dealing with the outbreak and how people just ignored it or deemed it an issue for the poor/homeless was insane.
Basically by the time most people take it seriously, it is already too late and the zombies have reached critical mass.
I know this is old but on them sleeping in those pods, theoretically they could not age at all or extremely slow. The faster you travel through space, the slower you travel through time. So if they had engines that could travel almost as fast as light, the 10 months back on earths date could literally just be a few days.
This isn’t related but just a neat factoid, the people who go to space and lives on the space stations orbiting earth traveling around 1700mph at all times and for every 1 year they spend in space, they are around 4 seconds younger than they should be.
You know it's getting bad when hairless monkey's start messing with space time
@@HugeHaddock E=MC²
Would love to see your take on the differences in the Xenomorphs from Aliens vs the singular Xenomorph
its the same process as if it were an ant colony. a singular facehugger made a drone that brought enough people and bio mass to a dark warm and wet environment, now we have two confirmed methods of queens spawning, Drones can molt into a queen which suggests they carry the dormant genetic coding like some frogs do that produce asexually or swap sexes. the other method was that somewhere in the ship there was a royal face hugger egg which exclusively spawns only queens and praetorian guards.
It's nice to see you attempting to make sense of the lore of this series.
One thing I heard was that during development the idea of the chestburster would biomechanicaly "build" its main body which eventually became the iconic mouth tongue.
I like the idea of a biological battery but I have to wonder why bother with a mouth if the criter doesn't actually eat.
I've never been a fan of the idea of the criters being completely artificial hopefully at some point we can get look at their home planet where they fit in the ecosystem etc.
Great video 👍🏻 👍🏻
My best guess is the mouth is a weapon and to call the others, yet they are a hivemind so the second one is unrealistic
the face huggers lay EGGS!!!!! lets not make the "black goo" from Prometheus, canon for the original story for the Aliens and how they reproduce! **face palms**
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🎵🎵Hello my Baby🎵
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I had a lot of fun watching you analysing this film, your puns are on point and are actually hilarious, which can't be said about this film which is serious. Yeah, I very much agree with your theory of their blood being a conductor and a nervous system. As you mentioned, they do not need oxygen to survive, they are probably self-powered, almost like a sustainable battery system powered by itself. However there are depictions where they are shown or hinted at eating, and they are shown to have digestive systems like intestines in Alien Resurrection and AVP1 where there are scenes of its guts falling down - however I take them with a giant pinch of salt as I am aware each film is helmed by a different writer and director and the lore is not consistent, so you can take what you need with them. In terms of what kind of acid the blood actually is - I generally accept whichever acid that has the closest property as depicted in the films, as I am no Chemist so it would likely be what you suggested, fluoroacetic acid.
Also the one thing that never really made sense to me was the floorplan of Nostromo, it just seems so big and so small and claustrophobic at the same time. You also have my sympathies for watching Prometheus before this OG masterpiece - it's crazy it was made by the same director, I guess Ridley let those black goo/xeno juice or whatever get into his head.
How about covering the body mimicking space bacteria from the anime movie Lily C.A.T.? It takes inspiration from both Alien and The Thing. Plus, it'd probably be the first animated movie you've covered here.
Fun fact, there's a popular fanfic in which Jonesy attacks and injurs the chstburster before it completes its metamorphosis, which stunts its growth and explains why its smaller than aliens in the future movies.
Not canon obviously, i just really like that fanfic. Its just called Jonesy i think
Okay, that cat is a gigachad for attacking the chestburster and succeeding in injuring it.
Are you planning on doing another video on zenomorph biology specifically the queen zeno and the runner. Also I'm curious about your thoughts on alien covenant and how it fits your hypnosis.
On one hand I want to say you did a great job of explaining the new "black goo" version of the Xenomorph reproduction cycle but honestly I really preferred the version of the Xenomorph we saw in Alien/Aliens (and to a lesser extant the DarkHorse comics and related novels where the facehugger just inserted its embryo and the host was just that, a host for it reproduce itself. It just made more sense because the black goo's ability to produce viable species without fail while combining what really should be incompatible biological traits is IMHO a bit beyond the pale. That and the fact that in Covenant it seems to take on the "mutated species just keep passing on the black goo and wildly mutating again" trope which seems counter-intuitive. I mean it would have made sense for the Engineers to design the goo as a means to jumpstart evolution and pass on certain traits but once it does it's job that should be the end of the matter. Just my opinion though, again, great video!