If you depend on a woman she will view you as a beta cuck.And we no need girlfriends or boyfriends to fill this emptiness and what we need is true spiritualism through Jesus
Apart from the fact if only a third of the world was heterosexual the population would be zero by now and humans would have died out centuries ago. It’s just a Greek sexually perverted apologetic for how the elite who didn’t have to work the land lived their lives, so sat around all day trying to make excuses for their bored debauchery and drunken antics. It is the the most flawed illogical fallacious crock of 💩 ever written. So apart from that fact , yes it describes 3 per cent of the world. It’s totally illogical, abnormal and self indulgent perverse world view. Congrats. You would be a patrician in the senate of Greco Rome, a privileged waffling sex deviant due to nepotism lacking in common sense and spouting tautological paragraphs, where brevity and honesty would be sufficient. In short. Your comment confirms that you have zero integrity and have failed to grasp reality.
I've always heard this myth with the male/male and female/female couples left out, I wonder why? On a less sarcastic note I love that the BBC is telling the full version :)
That is correct, but their heads were also backwards. So after being cut in half, their face was on what we would call our back, while the navel was on the other side. But the gods twisted their faces around and thats how we ended up with our face on the side of the belly button.
@@mistrants2745so we could watch ourselves 💩 and would sit in our piss all day. The Greeks…they invented talking shit and called it philosophy The love of bollocks, tautological paragraphs, unnecessary criteria in concepts with no absolutes and sexual perversion of the elite class who didn’t do a days work so indulged in deviant behavior and claimed its “normal to have sex toys” if your rich and can buy people. Thanks Greco Romans.
It is a story full of symbolism. You can get wiser when you try to interpret myths and you it is also good to think about this myth. But I don’t know if there is just one other half for a person. This myth could also imply you to think that you can not become whole or be in unity with yourself and the devine when you do not find your other half. So I also see some interpretations of this myth as problematic, lets say I am not the biggest fan. But maybe has truth to it, but I personally doubt it.
Stefania Blas the movie and rock musical Hedwig and the Angry Inch is inspired heavily by this story. although it is not this story itself, i do think you'd enjoy it. the main character Hedwig becomes obsessed with this tale when she is young, and has since then devoted herself to finding her other half.
@mrhat50 The crazy thing is we know there is the other half of us out there somewhere. I believe that our mission in life is to find them. I also believe that in every lifetime we actually do meet but we fail to recognize each other because our awareness only registers after the event by which time they are long gone. We have to keep returning to this earthly plane for as many lifetimes as it takes to finally connect. Only then can we move on in our whole form to a higher plane.
Yes, it does. Considering the origin of the myth, however to me makes it less valid. Something Aristophanes might have come up with on the spot. Still a good story tho
This myth was supposed to show how comically stupid Aristophanes was. It was obviously showing him making justification for his vices of lust and sexual desires through this myth. Socrates immediately debunks it with his dialogue with diotima and this myth was never meant to be a representative of Plato’s idea of love. Rather Aristophanes was everything wrong with Greek culture, Plato hated him due to his play “the clouds” that made fun of Socrates so purposely made his day stupid things like this shallow myth in the symposium
I searched “why people love Greek myths” and just got schooled on twin flames, a topic I’ve been devastatingly trying to avoid for those who know what I mean 🙃
Yes it does. You have more than one lover because you're looking for the right half. You try and try with many individuals until you find the right one
Yes it does, If you have a lover and end up not loving them anymore it is because they are NOT your other half and have to keep searching. If you get a divorce, that person was not your other half. some people might never find their other! Or at least that's my perspective!
Bisexuality was known in by the ancient Greek and Roman, and from what I've heard, they even thought it would be the most common one. But I also think that Bisexuals weren't called as such, because a man for example was allowed to have a intimate relation with others of the same sex, but still has to had a wife. So I guess they were more of a "advanced heterosexual ".
You make a mistake I don’t now if is from ignorance or a purpose. The first human was called androgyno from man (andra) and woman (gynaika) in greek. So it’s not possible to be androgyno with 2 man or 2 woman only 1 man and 1 woman. And still today when a man and a woman get merited we call the androgyno
.... Mythos means word/history ... in Spanish a Mitómano is an adjective that refers to what pertains or pertains to Mythomania. The term comes from the French mythomane. Mythomania, on the other hand, is a psychological disorder that consists of LYING in a compulsive and pathological way. so ... a Myth could be FALSE o TRUE or half lie or half truth. Thre are Skulls of Giant people and other humanoid species , but No skulls of Ball-like-humans with 2 heads .
It's a story written (or at least claimed to be written) by Aristophanes. He wasn't stating the story as the true beliefs of anyone any more than Aesop actually believed in talking animals
Charlotte well their split apart could be either male or female... even if it was one or the other I think it would just mean that they would love both genders a few times before finding their split apart
Fun story! Not going to try to disprove it because, haha, obviously. (I appreciate the Gays although scenario ignores poly/non-monogamous/aromantic folks, or y'know... how you can be in love more than once. Interesting pro-monogamy bent all things considered.) I like how it reminds me of the rabbinic interpretation of Adam ... wonder if they were directly influenced by this or vice versa.
I’m the MOON one obviously.. but I feel like my other HALF is within or a spirit known as the INCUBUS ,, can feel his touch , breath and sometimes voice… also had vivid dreams of him… 🤔 💭 probably why I’m Asexual… 🥀
"When male joins with male or female joins with female, it is outside the bounds of nature. This outrage was first done by people whose desire for pleasure was without self - control." Plato
Lol ...sayes Hannibal... This is story for kids...we all been in a human like hrmafrodite first... That's this guys intersex* called still exists..is a profe.. Had both genders....at a level...then nature split3d from clit...on penis..... That's why human genes are not defined yet... Why u think as a male u have nipples and u never use them . ... Be smart...dont talk old dustyed shit ideas... Jesus and u have Hannibal pic...on..lol..u really are stupid person...nice 2 kow u
@@aditijain5002 it's true, 100%. Ask any man who's ever been with a woman. He must give up everything about himself in attempts to please her and the more he gives the more she expects, never satisfied always wanting more, and when more stops coming the drama ensues.
@@redrustyhill2 I’m sorry that you had to experience being with a woman/ women who drained you this way, but please don’t stereotype the rest of women.
@@aditijain5002 😂😂😂. I've been with many women, and the collective male experience corroborates everything I said. Your shaming language has no powers here and no, your not sorry, so quit the virtue signalling.
@@redrustyhill2 1. I know lots of men who would not agree with you. 2. My language wasn’t “shaming”. 3. Not everyone is trying to pick a fight with you or make you feel bad about yourself.
Beautiful... Totally obsessed with all these little vids about myths and greek phillosophers of yours!
melissa whatchoo talking bout
can't seem to find any flaws in this logic
Nah, Zeus not lusting for some mortal flesh is an immediate red flag
Agreed 👍🏼
If you depend on a woman she will view you as a beta cuck.And we no need girlfriends or boyfriends to fill this emptiness and what we need is true spiritualism through Jesus
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Apart from the fact if only a third of the world was heterosexual the population would be zero by now and humans would have died out centuries ago.
It’s just a Greek sexually perverted apologetic for how the elite who didn’t have to work the land lived their lives, so sat around all day trying to make excuses for their bored debauchery and drunken antics. It is the the most flawed illogical fallacious crock of 💩 ever written. So apart from that fact , yes it describes 3 per cent of the world. It’s totally illogical, abnormal and self indulgent perverse world view.
Congrats. You would be a patrician in the senate of Greco Rome, a privileged waffling sex deviant due to nepotism lacking in common sense and spouting tautological paragraphs, where brevity and honesty would be sufficient. In short.
Your comment confirms that you have zero integrity and have failed to grasp reality.
I've always heard this myth with the male/male and female/female couples left out, I wonder why?
On a less sarcastic note I love that the BBC is telling the full version :)
Yeah, I've only heard about female and male.
Look up platos story now, this is missing context actually
Because the Male/Female version is Adam and Eve, and it's True.
There's a huge amount of information and detail that's left out of this.
Super interesting. I can not help but think something is missing and I want to fill in the missing gaps.
I think some websites call this creature the "Androgynus" and sometimes it's depicted with 2 heads rather than just 1 with 2 faces.
I’ve heard of this myth in my catholic class but a little different...
They were stuck to each other at their tummy and that’s why we have a navel!
That is correct, but their heads were also backwards. So after being cut in half, their face was on what we would call our back, while the navel was on the other side. But the gods twisted their faces around and thats how we ended up with our face on the side of the belly button.
@@mistrants2745so we could watch ourselves 💩 and would sit in our piss all day.
The Greeks…they invented talking shit and called it philosophy The love of bollocks, tautological paragraphs, unnecessary criteria in concepts with no absolutes and sexual perversion of the elite class who didn’t do a days work so indulged in deviant behavior and claimed its “normal to have sex toys” if your rich and can buy people. Thanks Greco Romans.
0:55 it was that the gods feared they were so wholesome that there’d be no need for prayer and servicing them
so conjoined twins are completely normal I knew it
Wouldn’t that be incest then? 😂
@@aestheticsummer2154 wait what??😂😂😂
AWW! that was nice for a change
It is a story full of symbolism. You can get wiser when you try to interpret myths and you it is also good to think about this myth.
But I don’t know if there is just one other half for a person. This myth could also imply you to think that you can not become whole or be in unity with yourself and the devine when you do not find your other half.
So I also see some interpretations of this myth as problematic, lets say I am not the biggest fan. But maybe has truth to it, but I personally doubt it.
CAN YOU PLEASE PLEASE TELL ME IF THERES A MOVIE BASED ON THIS MYTH?!?! i lovveee this story
Stefania Blas
the movie and rock musical Hedwig and the Angry Inch is inspired heavily by this story. although it is not this story itself, i do think you'd enjoy it. the main character Hedwig becomes obsessed with this tale when she is young, and has since then devoted herself to finding her other half.
I might be a bit late but I’m here because of “I’ll give you the sun” it’s a beautiful book and they talked about split aparts sometimes
I wish I could find my other half.
me too. 😢
@mrhat50 The crazy thing is we know there is the other half of us out there somewhere. I believe that our mission in life is to find them. I also believe that in every lifetime we actually do meet but we fail to recognize each other because our awareness only registers after the event by which time they are long gone. We have to keep returning to this earthly plane for as many lifetimes as it takes to finally connect. Only then can we move on in our whole form to a higher plane.
Totally makes sense
Explained perfectly
This just confirms to me that asexual people already have both souls and are therefore just happy with themselves :)
Oh, I like this theory!
This was never meant to be taken seriously
No. Because then they'd have two faces, four arms, and four legs. Weren't you paying attention!?
Baby dont hurt me!
What is Love?
Doesn't this directly oppose the story of Pandora? She was a singular individual and was not attached to her lover. Evolution?
What are you asking?
Yes, it does. Considering the origin of the myth, however to me makes it less valid. Something Aristophanes might have come up with on the spot. Still a good story tho
THIS IS PRETTY BADASS
It's awesome definition about history
Thanks Mitchell
Very interesting continue the good work!
Well Mr. Turner, can I be your missing half?
I guess no one here read the "Symposium" and realized Aristophanes was just justifying his lust with this myth.
Do you have more details about it? I'm curious
This myth was supposed to show how comically stupid Aristophanes was. It was obviously showing him making justification for his vices of lust and sexual desires through this myth. Socrates immediately debunks it with his dialogue with diotima and this myth was never meant to be a representative of Plato’s idea of love. Rather Aristophanes was everything wrong with Greek culture, Plato hated him due to his play “the clouds” that made fun of Socrates so purposely made his day stupid things like this shallow myth in the symposium
that makes no sense
I saw this film that starts with this pluto's quote but I don't remember its name. Can anyone tell me the film's name please
I searched “why people love Greek myths” and just got schooled on twin flames, a topic I’ve been devastatingly trying to avoid for those who know what I mean 🙃
I feel you. I was running away from it too till I couldn’t no more.
Such interesting little videos
Hhhh 🤣 hhhhahahahhajajaa LoL this sobered me up from the entire spiritual thing with ''soulmates''hhhhhh thank you. I feel much lighter now!! 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly his is the only speech i understood....clearly
LOL are lesbians not 'homosexuals'?
anyone else here because of Hedwig and the Angry Inch just curious
Cece Egan I just watched that and I’m still obsessed.
Yup, the special edition bluray has a booklet and 2 pages are the symposium
Nice done! :)
That's so funny. Renew my knowledge
In the meantime siamese twins are rolling towards the setting sun in happiness.
This doesn't explain how we can have more than 1 lover in our lifetime..
Yes it does. You have more than one lover because you're looking for the right half. You try and try with many individuals until you find the right one
Tamara gets it
Yes it does, If you have a lover and end up not loving them anymore it is because they are NOT your other half and have to keep searching. If you get a divorce, that person was not your other half. some people might never find their other! Or at least that's my perspective!
Thats exactly what I thought!
@@tamaradimarco878 less than 1% find "the right half", even with a Lifetime of partners.
The myth of the missing beer. Only a myth, I always find one. Just a joke. I love ancient Greece and philosophy.
What about bisexuals?
Bisexuality was known in by the ancient Greek and Roman, and from what I've heard, they even thought it would be the most common one. But I also think that Bisexuals weren't called as such, because a man for example was allowed to have a intimate relation with others of the same sex, but still has to had a wife. So I guess they were more of a "advanced heterosexual ".
There was a song about this that I cant seem to remember
I think it's Origin of Love
You make a mistake I don’t now if is from ignorance or a purpose. The first human was called androgyno from man (andra) and woman (gynaika) in greek. So it’s not possible to be androgyno with 2 man or 2 woman only 1 man and 1 woman. And still today when a man and a woman get merited we call the androgyno
The sun one I can kinda-understand.
omg this was great lol
Yet we do lose that half one way In another again
Make sense to me
Huh, guess I'm the only one born as whole, so I have no other half.
So what does that mean for people who are a-sexual
Shelby Perez ~ it's a myth. It's not a true story. It's fictional. Zeus didn't really chop them in two pieces.
I meant to be sarcastic.
Shelby Perez ~ 👍 difficult to tell these days. Have a good one.
what about bisexuals
This myth is similar to the african story of Yurugu
Maybe the gods were aliens and we became very strong
So nobody knows what the word Myth means?
.... Mythos means word/history ... in Spanish a Mitómano is an adjective that refers to what pertains or pertains to Mythomania.
The term comes from the French mythomane.
Mythomania, on the other hand, is a psychological disorder that consists of LYING in a compulsive and pathological way.
so ... a Myth could be FALSE o TRUE or half lie or half truth.
Thre are Skulls of Giant people and other humanoid species , but No skulls of Ball-like-humans with 2 heads .
What about who died after birth
How they will meet their partners
The male homosexuals were the sons of the Sun?? Wooow!... for some reason I feel really good knowing this, thank you!
Sun like Apollo...ryt
wow thats not true
What about adrogynous poeople?
They didn't actually, literally believed that story to be real, did they?
No it is a theory of Plato☺
i would rather think the valued the symbolism but how should we know?
It's a story written (or at least claimed to be written) by Aristophanes. He wasn't stating the story as the true beliefs of anyone any more than Aesop actually believed in talking animals
my soulmate on arm to arm with another woman
Bad faith, anyone?
sartre?
Now this fully explains sexuality 💯
soy hija de la luna como siempre sospeche
It's called Twin Flame .
She cut her own hair so to speak
"Sexes"? Ooof. I thought sex was no longer real and punishable by "cancellation". Ha!
What about bisexuals though
Charlotte well their split apart could be either male or female... even if it was one or the other I think it would just mean that they would love both genders a few times before finding their split apart
Two tomoe sharingan😈
Fun story! Not going to try to disprove it because, haha, obviously. (I appreciate the Gays although scenario ignores poly/non-monogamous/aromantic folks, or y'know... how you can be in love more than once. Interesting pro-monogamy bent all things considered.) I like how it reminds me of the rabbinic interpretation of Adam ... wonder if they were directly influenced by this or vice versa.
The only thing remotely believable is that this was created by a comic playwright.
Not even close to the real myth
Lol this is hilarious.
Twinflame relationship
I’m the MOON one obviously.. but I feel like my other HALF is within or a spirit known as the INCUBUS ,, can feel his touch , breath and sometimes voice… also had vivid dreams of him… 🤔 💭 probably why I’m Asexual… 🥀
You aren't asexual you are just an incel bro.
A lot left out that is important to the myrh. Also why not use the term homosexual for lesbians. Just seemed out of place.
This was cute
If we were created in Gods image. Jesus must have looked weard when he came to earth
"When male joins with male or female joins with female, it is outside the bounds of nature. This outrage was first done by people whose desire for pleasure was without self - control."
Plato
Hannibal Lecter while in his symposium he also ships his teacher with an Athenian politician...
Lol ...sayes Hannibal...
This is story for kids...we all been in a human like hrmafrodite first...
That's this guys intersex* called still exists..is a profe.. Had both genders....at a level...then nature split3d from clit...on penis.....
That's why human genes are not defined yet...
Why u think as a male u have nipples and u never use them
. ...
Be smart...dont talk old dustyed shit ideas...
Jesus and u have Hannibal pic...on..lol..u really are stupid person...nice 2 kow u
Plato thinks the highest form of erotic love is between males - just don’t have sex, lol. He thinks it’s forgivable in the Phaedrus though
Bbc created the homosexuals and lesbians i always knew
What about asexuals?
What yes they are! lol! Ahhhh fake Noah Centineo' these days!
I feel bad for the male who was stuck to female. He can never walk away from drama.
And this is supposed to be funny?
@@aditijain5002 it's true, 100%. Ask any man who's ever been with a woman. He must give up everything about himself in attempts to please her and the more he gives the more she expects, never satisfied always wanting more, and when more stops coming the drama ensues.
@@redrustyhill2 I’m sorry that you had to experience being with a woman/ women who drained you this way, but please don’t stereotype the rest of women.
@@aditijain5002 😂😂😂. I've been with many women, and the collective male experience corroborates everything I said. Your shaming language has no powers here and no, your not sorry, so quit the virtue signalling.
@@redrustyhill2 1. I know lots of men who would not agree with you.
2. My language wasn’t “shaming”.
3. Not everyone is trying to pick a fight with you or make you feel bad about yourself.
No meaningful analysis..
Cool story, vastly different from the reality of evolutionary science though.
Myth is cool, but I use reality to make decisions.
Evolutionary "science" is just as much a myth as this story.
Never seen a worst version of "The Symposium" than this one. 100 thumbs down.
Lgbt propaganda
Jesus is love
wtf😂😂
What Rubbish!