just a word of caution regarding modify the car, the Portuguese regulation doesn't allow "upgrades"or changes to the performance, although it is possible to do it, any visible upgrades can be a reason for the PSP or GNR to fine you and order you to send the car for a B inspection, where the car will suffer a more stricken inspection and all the modifications not in the car registry will be consider a fail, you can make some changes like exhaust and change rims but rims for example if not in the car registry for example if you change the rim size from 17" to 19", the police can fine you, so keep in mind any possible modifications you may have in mind, also no tinted glass is allowed unless from factory unless you have a comercial vehicle...
You are the 3rd or 4th person to post a comment like this. I was wondering if you might know a BMW shop that modifies in Portugal. They would know what is and is not allowed. You are right, I should be cautious.
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 I don't recommend going for a BMW dealership for example for homologation of rim size, they "overcharge" for a simple manufacturers letter for you to change on imtt, there are tech centers that can handle that for a more reasonable cost, regarding performance, there's plenty of tuning shops around, you can find them just by questioning locals of a repair shop that can recommend 1, but a Google search for rating can help you decidd
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 if the CO2 levels are the same has if the exhaust was original from the car you don't need to worry police only fines you and send the car for a B inspection if the noise level is above 120db
pay attention, importing from the US can be a nightmare because of different regulations such as turn signals, fog lights or reversing lights. Also be aware of the characteristics of the gas, in Europe the usual is 98 or 95 RON. Therefore, depending on the car, you will have to pay to adapt and later homologate the vehicle. I'm not aware of the prices but it's easy to imagine it's going to be expensive.
So much planning and you still ended up buying a used imported car (as opposed to a domestic one, i.e firstly registered in Portugal). You said the car is from 2013 but it has a 2015 portuguese license plate, which means it was first registered and sold in 2013 in another european country (my guess would be Germany or France) and then imported to Portugal and registered for a second time in 2015. The difference is that instead of you going abroad to buy the car, bring it here and then register it, someone else did and I'm sure with a reasonable profit. If I were you, I'd have the undercarriage checked for rust because if that car came from the countries I mentioned (or any other central european country), it probably spent at least one Winter in the country of origin and you know what salt can do to metal.
Super interesting... The dealer made a mistake by referring to the tag as well and later changed the date of manufacturing. Not much to do now, but I do love the car! It only had 36000km and was 8 years old. As long as it holds its value I will be very very happy with it. It is strange how much it cost - and others like it - for being 8 years old. As if it has depreciated very slowly.
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 - Unfortunately, being new here, you didn't know about this fact and the dealership took advantage of your unawareness. On the other hand, I believe it would be very hard to find a similar domestic used model, since the displacement would've made it almost prohibitive to buy for the average person when it came out, due to the heavy taxes. Only the richer people would eventually buy it and they probably wouldn't sell/trade it after only 2 years. Now, with its 2.0L 4-cylinder it's much more affordable and possibly easier to find a domestic one in the used market. So, all things considered, if you really wanted that particular model with that engine you didn't have much choice but to buy a used imported. One thing you should be aware of if you're thinking about tuning your car: if it's only software-related and it doesn't alter the emissions, you'll be fine, but if you're considering changing stuff, like turbos, intake, air filter or other physical things, don't do it because the car won't pass the inspection and you're also at risk of being fined if you're stopped by the Police.
Yea... I had been looking for a while and tripping across this model with these few KM was impossible. Everything has over 100,000 km. Do you know of any "tuning shops" in Portugal? BMW preferred... I don't want to cause myself problems.
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 - Sorry, I don't know any tuning shops specialised in BMW but I'm sure there must be a few in the Lisbon area. The tuning community is very active over there.
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Fantastic pocket rocket :) Time to enjoy the roads. Tip: Buy a Via Verde toll chip to put on the windshield. It will be synced to you bank account and you won’t have to stop at the tolls on the highways. Really handy.
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 In Via Verde you have 2 options: the "Livre" €0,49/month (+ tolls) and the "Leve", paying €0,70 (+tolls) on the months you use it. It can also be used to pay parking in some places. www.viaverde.pt/particulares/via-verde/como-aderir?s=identificador
Nice video. FYI the annual tax or registration fee, whatever you chose to call it, is more expensive on diesel cars but the gas is much cheaper so you need to weigh the cost based on how much you will be driving. Also, most Portuguese people who find $800 per year car tax expensive also couldn’t afford to by a car like that. They by small, inexpensive cars with small engines. The car tax is a kind of luxury tax. The bigger and more expensive the car the more you pay in tax. The US is Similar in that the annual registration in most states is more expensive on a $100K car then a $5K car. Nice car though. You’ll have fun driving it on the autoestrada!
Thank you for sharing your journey! Beautiful vehicle. Curious if you’ve looked into the driver’s license requirements as we follow Veronica “American in Portugal “ who lives in Villa Real De San Antonio and she’s advised that within 90 days of residency you have to relinquish your US drivers license and apply for a Portuguese one. Apparently the test is in Portuguese and pretty complex unless you’ve brought your U.S. driving record and had it Apostilled in the states. Let us know. Looking to move within a year from the Southwest. Would love to bring our Infiniti hard top convertible however even if we wanted to pay the 15k in taxes not sure we would ever find a mechanic that could service the car. The nearest Infiniti is In Spain a pretty far drive from Lisbon or the Algarve where we’re targeting moving.
We are in the process right now and yes, 90 days from getting the residency. We are working on the driving record. If you have owned the car for more than 6 months you won't have to pay taxes to bring it over, but you will have to pay to ship and "make legal" here. I am not really sure of all of the costs. Interesting that you have looked up Infinity is in Spain, but not Portugal.
Great video, a fantastic couple and a... loud, obnoxious BMW! Becoming a Member of the ACP , the national auto club, will set you back around 100 euros/year. But the advantages are huge. Towing, road mechanical assistance, International Insurance, etc. And this Club has rather close links with comparable Clubs all over Europe. Bear in mind that a Diesel automobile is very frugal, gaswise. And since they are turbo-charged, the top speed is great -- and from 0 to 100 kms they are impressive as well. Last but not least. If a vehicle is brought into Portugal tax-free, it's not possible to sell it a couple of months later. A given lenght of time must elapse, in order to render the transaction tax-free. Make sure that your racy, noisy car is within the legal limits -- you don't need to pay a heavy fine. Although you probaby could get compensation from the Dealership. Warm reg/ A.
Thanks for the reply Albert - I promise I keep the exhaust on quiet 99% of the time 😀 It is barely louder than stock. It may be worth the membership to ACP!!
Congratulations for the new car, really nice car. About cost of buying and maintaining cars in Portugal: Welcome to our tax’s nightmare. Enjoy your stay in a such nice place: great people, fantastic food and amazing landscape. Cheers
Cars are expensive to buy, to maintain and to use (petrol/diesel costs). I’d call them a significant problem, and it’s, as you say, surprising that they’re either dismissed or not mentioned in xpats YT videos. I get the feeling that that’s because they’re generally not planning on driving, but I could be wrong.
Congrats on the purchase!! Which site did you use to browse. We are big fans of the brand and are thinking of getting a 1 series once there in the next year... also coming from the us in the next few months...
I'm sorry for the delay. We took a little time off. I used two mostly, standvirtual.com and ooyyo.com. We bought from a dealer who advertised on standvirtual. Hop it helps! You are going to love it here!!
The fine is still less than the taxes they collect.😡why would you need more horse power when in PT? Also modifications are very difficult to be approved in PT I hope your exhaust is legal.🤞
Thanks for the feedback Anita... it may be hard to explain the need for HP. If it does not excite you, that is very understandable. Is it really needed? No... not really. Good question o the exhaust. I would assume so since it was bought and sold here by a dealer. I will need to do some research. :-) Thank you for the feedback!
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 thank you for men and women like you that love their cars , I have been in the motor industry for 27 years as a Dealer Principal of Toyota and Mazda, Nissan and Luxury cars. For 6 years and finance for the balance of the time. My Moto is if you selling them don’t love them Or you will not make money . Enjoy your car. And enjoy Portugal. I was born in Lisboa and coming back unexpectedly to live after 55 years. Hesitant and excited all at the same time.
Anita, I do understand. I have always found it so hard to sell cars that I buy, and the few times I do, I don't look for a profit, I look for some to take care of them. Let me be the first to welcome you back to Portugal!
I'm sure you work on your own cars, but I was thinking of bringing a RAV4 Prime and you said you saw very few Japanese cars. Do you think there would be mechanics to work on a Toyota?
Kim, yes, as Kay9 replied, after being here for a month, you are not going to have a problem with a Toyota. There are quite a few. Apologies for the confusion... the world looks a lot different with time and travel.
A car is, for sure, more expensive here than in the US. It is also more expensive to maintain. However u can not compare the orice of motor oil between Wallmart and a petro station. What u need do is go to an hipermarket or a parts store and check out the prices. The one u said is WAYYYYY too expensive.
Ola Richard and Christie. Awesome video and great looking car. Congratulations. I wanted to ask, is the tax a one time payment or is it annually??? Thanks in advance. Stay safe and have fun with your new toy.
I found the answer to your question... This helped me to look it up... impostosobreveiculos.info/iuc/simulador-iuc/ Plugin your data, age, engine displacement, emission, and fuel type and you have an estimate.
A car has mandatory costs (not including fuel and maintenance): IUC (annual tax), that costs a few hundred Euros (when new), depending on car age, engine and pollution; insurance, also costing €100/€120 (minimum) to some hundreds; car inspection (IPO), costing (in 2021) €31,49.
Congrats on your new car. As Portuguese I would suggest a diesel engine, more efficient in Portuguese roads and diesel is cheaper than gasoline. BMW has powerful diesel engines tho nothing really with that sound 😁
Yes... I wonder about the fact that the speedometer and most American cars are in miles and not kilometers. Also does the gas tank have to be changed or just the speedometer? Who does these things? Who checks them?
Sorry Janis for the delayed response, but unfortunately, I don't really know the answers around the tank. I am pretty sure there is an incoming inspection process.
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 Hey, you be safe. The roads are a little bit to danger, with lots of curvy roads and even in the summer can rain or be a little to humid there.
What if you have only a bill of sale for the American vehicle but has not been transferred into your name through the DMV? Can you still reap the benefits of importing without being scalped?
I don't know if my following comment is still valid under the current legislation or not, but here it goes... a) instead of importing your own car from your country, you can, at least was possible years ago, to buy a new car (but you still need the proof of ownership, of half a year or more, of a car in your country of origin prior of moving to pt) and have the IA (imposto automóvel) waived, which also waived the 23% IVA (or VAT) over this IA part. There is/was a time limit for you to apply for this waiver and complete the purchase, either half a year after coming to pt or within the 1st fiscal year after coming in, don't remember. b) either you buy a new car with this waiver or importing your own car without needing to pay this tax, there is a time (2 years I think) that you cannot sell the car.
Carlos, thanks for that added detail. I think it helps me see it clearer. If you bought a car in Spain 6 months before arriving, that would make sense... I think, if I am following. Interesting about the 2 years... I was not aware of that, for sure.
Let me give an example of this... You own a car in the US, for more than 6 months, at the time you moved to PT. You did not import that car. (Sold it for example). Once in PT you went to a new car dealership and decide to buy a brand new 50K€ BMW. You apply for the IA waiver (through the dealer, some will do it for you). Once accepted, instead of paying the full 50K€, you will only pay, let's said, 35K€, (assuming 15K€ of IA + IVA over IA). Basically you buy a new car for the price of a used one.
Yea... automatic... TBH, I am not sure if I would have went with a manual. Yes, I know car guys love manuals and only in the last 5 years did I own an automatic as my primary drivers... I love rowing the gears... but advancements and my age must be creeping up on me. Sometimes, it is just nice to look around and not worry about what gear I am in.
One other thought on future cost, I may purchase an extended warranty and if it is a minor problem, I will probably still repair it myself. Christie had a creative thought if I could rent some garage time and use their tools in some situations.
"ohhh Cadillac type car" well you wont get those unless you buy something from the 70's and older, the other thing is the car you bought we consider it here a 2+2, besides also yes indeed it's expensive on the gas millage, other point is that maintenance is more expensive then other EU brands, besides that there are near has capable performance cheaper cars around that aren't bmw, but you enjoy, great...
Yea... that Cadillac has moved out in history - The 135 has a pretty good backseat... Pretty happy with that. I do suspect the maintenance will cost more. Fair point on the performance for cost as well.
rik marx, maybe the next car. To be honest, I did not give EVs much thought. Maybe my age and decades of internal combustion engines, but I was thinking about it yesterday purely objectively, and I think it is fair to say that knowing we were going to be all over the country, not knowing where EVs would plug in and charging them on the AirBnB dime might be an issue. But, maybe the next car if the infrastructure becomes like gas stations. We just drove across Portugal, Spain, France, and Italy in 3 days. I don't know if that would be possible with an EV. I have much more to learn on that front!
Given that you are an expat, you are not a citizen, why would you want to import the car into Portugal? Why not simply buy the car in Spain and leave it registered in Spain. This would be akin to a Portuguese person visiting California driving a car registered in Ohio. You are not a resident of either place.
Jamie, that is an interesting thought. I am guessing I would have to have a "Visa" in Spain, though that may not be right. To buy this car I had to have a NIF in Portugal. I think maybe the confusion lies in, we are "Visa" residents of Portugal... you have me thinking... not really sure.
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 You do not need a visa for Spain as it is simply another state within the EU. I lived in Poland with my UK Land Rover but technically you can only do this for a few months but you are moving all the time so so is the car. This is purely discussion. I am not a lawyer. No one asked me at the border how long I had been there when I left. If they had I could have said 3 months even though I was there 2 years.
I have been driving them for 25 years with very few problems... I hope it remains that way. But I will admit newer cars have so many electronics that can go wrong. I will keep my fingers crossed and keep a warranty on them :-)
Glad to help, guys! And it’s good to know you’ve found a car that both suits your needs and tickles your fancy! 😀
It is much appreciated Paulo!
just a word of caution regarding modify the car, the Portuguese regulation doesn't allow "upgrades"or changes to the performance, although it is possible to do it, any visible upgrades can be a reason for the PSP or GNR to fine you and order you to send the car for a B inspection, where the car will suffer a more stricken inspection and all the modifications not in the car registry will be consider a fail, you can make some changes like exhaust and change rims but rims for example if not in the car registry for example if you change the rim size from 17" to 19", the police can fine you, so keep in mind any possible modifications you may have in mind, also no tinted glass is allowed unless from factory unless you have a comercial vehicle...
You are the 3rd or 4th person to post a comment like this. I was wondering if you might know a BMW shop that modifies in Portugal. They would know what is and is not allowed. You are right, I should be cautious.
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 I don't recommend going for a BMW dealership for example for homologation of rim size, they "overcharge" for a simple manufacturers letter for you to change on imtt, there are tech centers that can handle that for a more reasonable cost, regarding performance, there's plenty of tuning shops around, you can find them just by questioning locals of a repair shop that can recommend 1, but a Google search for rating can help you decidd
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 if the CO2 levels are the same has if the exhaust was original from the car you don't need to worry police only fines you and send the car for a B inspection if the noise level is above 120db
Congrats!! That music emanating from the exhaust is intoxicating. Cheers to you and to the many curvy roads you’ll enjoy soon!
It is to me as well!!! That you Fabio!
pay attention, importing from the US can be a nightmare because of different regulations such as turn signals, fog lights or reversing lights. Also be aware of the characteristics of the gas, in Europe the usual is 98 or 95 RON. Therefore, depending on the car, you will have to pay to adapt and later homologate the vehicle. I'm not aware of the prices but it's easy to imagine it's going to be expensive.
Great points! Thank you Rui!
So much planning and you still ended up buying a used imported car (as opposed to a domestic one, i.e firstly registered in Portugal). You said the car is from 2013 but it has a 2015 portuguese license plate, which means it was first registered and sold in 2013 in another european country (my guess would be Germany or France) and then imported to Portugal and registered for a second time in 2015. The difference is that instead of you going abroad to buy the car, bring it here and then register it, someone else did and I'm sure with a reasonable profit.
If I were you, I'd have the undercarriage checked for rust because if that car came from the countries I mentioned (or any other central european country), it probably spent at least one Winter in the country of origin and you know what salt can do to metal.
Super interesting... The dealer made a mistake by referring to the tag as well and later changed the date of manufacturing. Not much to do now, but I do love the car! It only had 36000km and was 8 years old. As long as it holds its value I will be very very happy with it. It is strange how much it cost - and others like it - for being 8 years old. As if it has depreciated very slowly.
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 - Unfortunately, being new here, you didn't know about this fact and the dealership took advantage of your unawareness. On the other hand, I believe it would be very hard to find a similar domestic used model, since the displacement would've made it almost prohibitive to buy for the average person when it came out, due to the heavy taxes. Only the richer people would eventually buy it and they probably wouldn't sell/trade it after only 2 years. Now, with its 2.0L 4-cylinder it's much more affordable and possibly easier to find a domestic one in the used market.
So, all things considered, if you really wanted that particular model with that engine you didn't have much choice but to buy a used imported.
One thing you should be aware of if you're thinking about tuning your car: if it's only software-related and it doesn't alter the emissions, you'll be fine, but if you're considering changing stuff, like turbos, intake, air filter or other physical things, don't do it because the car won't pass the inspection and you're also at risk of being fined if you're stopped by the Police.
Yea... I had been looking for a while and tripping across this model with these few KM was impossible. Everything has over 100,000 km.
Do you know of any "tuning shops" in Portugal? BMW preferred... I don't want to cause myself problems.
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 - Sorry, I don't know any tuning shops specialised in BMW but I'm sure there must be a few in the Lisbon area. The tuning community is very active over there.
Fantastic pocket rocket :) Time to enjoy the roads.
Tip: Buy a Via Verde toll chip to put on the windshield. It will be synced to you bank account and you won’t have to stop at the tolls on the highways. Really handy.
Oh, the roads coming up here are SO DANG cool for driving! We will look up the Via Verde today. Stopping at the toll booth is really a pain!
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 " Via Verde " " is the solution...a must in Portugal...👍
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 In Via Verde you have 2 options: the "Livre" €0,49/month (+ tolls) and the "Leve", paying €0,70 (+tolls) on the months you use it. It can also be used to pay parking in some places. www.viaverde.pt/particulares/via-verde/como-aderir?s=identificador
Thanks so much for the link Antonio... We will sign up tonight or tomorrow!!
Nice video. FYI the annual tax or registration fee, whatever you chose to call it, is more expensive on diesel cars but the gas is much cheaper so you need to weigh the cost based on how much you will be driving. Also, most Portuguese people who find $800 per year car tax expensive also couldn’t afford to by a car like that. They by small, inexpensive cars with small engines. The car tax is a kind of luxury tax. The bigger and more expensive the car the more you pay in tax. The US is Similar in that the annual registration in most states is more expensive on a $100K car then a $5K car. Nice car though. You’ll have fun driving it on the autoestrada!
Now with a new car to discover Portugal, the journey has just begun...
:-) It feels endless :-)
Thank you for sharing your journey! Beautiful vehicle. Curious if you’ve looked into the driver’s license requirements as we follow Veronica “American in Portugal “ who lives in Villa Real De San Antonio and she’s advised that within 90 days of residency you have to relinquish your US drivers license and apply for a Portuguese one. Apparently the test is in Portuguese and pretty complex unless you’ve brought your U.S. driving record and had it Apostilled in the states. Let us know. Looking to move within a year from the Southwest. Would love to bring our Infiniti hard top convertible however even if we wanted to pay the 15k in taxes not sure we would ever find a mechanic that could service the car. The nearest Infiniti is In Spain a pretty far drive from Lisbon or the Algarve where we’re targeting moving.
We are in the process right now and yes, 90 days from getting the residency. We are working on the driving record. If you have owned the car for more than 6 months you won't have to pay taxes to bring it over, but you will have to pay to ship and "make legal" here. I am not really sure of all of the costs. Interesting that you have looked up Infinity is in Spain, but not Portugal.
That's a beautiful car!
Thanks Zato! We are loving it... for sure!
Great video, a fantastic couple and a... loud, obnoxious BMW!
Becoming a Member of the ACP , the national auto club, will set you back around 100 euros/year. But the advantages are huge. Towing, road mechanical assistance, International Insurance, etc. And this Club has rather close links with comparable Clubs all over Europe.
Bear in mind that a Diesel automobile is very frugal, gaswise. And since they are turbo-charged, the top speed is great -- and from 0 to 100 kms they are impressive as well.
Last but not least. If a vehicle is brought into Portugal tax-free, it's not possible to sell it a couple of months later.
A given lenght of time must elapse, in order to render the transaction tax-free.
Make sure that your racy, noisy car is within the legal limits -- you don't need to pay a heavy fine. Although you probaby could get compensation from the Dealership.
Warm reg/
A.
Thanks for the reply Albert - I promise I keep the exhaust on quiet 99% of the time 😀 It is barely louder than stock. It may be worth the membership to ACP!!
take it for a drive to cabo da roca from cascais
It is on our list... it is in month 4 or 5. I don't recall... But it is marked!!
Buying an ev avoids a boatload of tax , and never to a gasstation again .
Congratulations for the new car, really nice car. About cost of buying and maintaining cars in Portugal: Welcome to our tax’s nightmare. Enjoy your stay in a such nice place: great people, fantastic food and amazing landscape. Cheers
Yea... funny... for a year of watching "cost of living" videos not one mentions the car challenges (at least that I remember!)
Cars are expensive to buy, to maintain and to use (petrol/diesel costs). I’d call them a significant problem, and it’s, as you say, surprising that they’re either dismissed or not mentioned in xpats YT videos. I get the feeling that that’s because they’re generally not planning on driving, but I could be wrong.
Congrats on the purchase!! Which site did you use to browse. We are big fans of the brand and are thinking of getting a 1 series once there in the next year... also coming from the us in the next few months...
I'm sorry for the delay. We took a little time off. I used two mostly, standvirtual.com and ooyyo.com. We bought from a dealer who advertised on standvirtual. Hop it helps! You are going to love it here!!
They are a real weapon the 140 or 240 will be my next car .
We love the car!
Wow if I move there and need to look into bringing my car from America!
Yea, I was surprised how expensive it is... the rest of the cost of living is very nice, but not car ownership.
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 yes I’m shocked how much more expensive in Portugal
The fine is still less than the taxes they collect.😡why would you need more horse power when in PT? Also modifications are very difficult to be approved in PT I hope your exhaust is legal.🤞
Thanks for the feedback Anita... it may be hard to explain the need for HP. If it does not excite you, that is very understandable. Is it really needed? No... not really. Good question o the exhaust. I would assume so since it was bought and sold here by a dealer. I will need to do some research. :-) Thank you for the feedback!
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 thank you for men and women like you that love their cars , I have been in the motor industry for 27 years as a Dealer Principal of Toyota and Mazda, Nissan and Luxury cars. For 6 years and finance for the balance of the time. My Moto is if you selling them don’t love them
Or you will not make money . Enjoy your car. And enjoy Portugal. I was born in Lisboa and coming back unexpectedly to live after 55 years. Hesitant and excited all at the same time.
Anita, I do understand. I have always found it so hard to sell cars that I buy, and the few times I do, I don't look for a profit, I look for some to take care of them.
Let me be the first to welcome you back to Portugal!
I'm sure you work on your own cars, but I was thinking of bringing a RAV4 Prime and you said you saw very few Japanese cars. Do you think there would be mechanics to work on a Toyota?
There are many Toyota in Portugal (only in my house are 3), and a lot of toyota mechanic shops...
@@kay9din Thank you so much!
Kim, yes, as Kay9 replied, after being here for a month, you are not going to have a problem with a Toyota. There are quite a few. Apologies for the confusion... the world looks a lot different with time and travel.
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 Thank you so much. That is wonderful to know.
A car is, for sure, more expensive here than in the US. It is also more expensive to maintain. However u can not compare the orice of motor oil between Wallmart and a petro station. What u need do is go to an hipermarket or a parts store and check out the prices. The one u said is WAYYYYY too expensive.
I will keep looking around, but that oil was in Muitomenos...
Ola Richard and Christie. Awesome video and great looking car. Congratulations. I wanted to ask, is the tax a one time payment or is it annually??? Thanks in advance. Stay safe and have fun with your new toy.
I found the answer to your question... This helped me to look it up...
impostosobreveiculos.info/iuc/simulador-iuc/
Plugin your data, age, engine displacement, emission, and fuel type and you have an estimate.
A car has mandatory costs (not including fuel and maintenance): IUC (annual tax), that costs a few hundred Euros (when new), depending on car age, engine and pollution; insurance, also costing €100/€120 (minimum) to some hundreds; car inspection (IPO), costing (in 2021) €31,49.
Thanks Antonio! I just looked up the IUC tax as well... not cheap for this car. I will add that into a follow-up video.
Congratulations or Parabéns
Obrigado Jetfumes!
Congrats on your new car. As Portuguese I would suggest a diesel engine, more efficient in Portuguese roads and diesel is cheaper than gasoline. BMW has powerful diesel engines tho nothing really with that sound 😁
I must admit that I considered a diesel, but chose gasoline in the end.
You need to hire Sandrina as a tourist guide ,translator and adviser...😆
YES WE DO!! She was SO HELPFUL and SO FRIENDLY! :-)
Yes... I wonder about the fact that the speedometer and most American cars are in miles and not kilometers. Also does the gas tank have to be changed or just the speedometer? Who does these things? Who checks them?
Sorry Janis for the delayed response, but unfortunately, I don't really know the answers around the tank. I am pretty sure there is an incoming inspection process.
It looks like aldeias de xisto, maybe gondramaz village 😉
Yes a Serra da Lousã is great.
Maybe one hour away... but very close. I looked up Aldeias de xisto and added it to our list!!! IT LOOKS AWESOME!
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 Hey, you be safe. The roads are a little bit to danger, with lots of curvy roads and even in the summer can rain or be a little to humid there.
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 check them out, gondramaz and talasnal are my favorites
Haha... sold the minute he heard the engine 😂
SPOT ON! I was thinking... okay, I need to grow up and act my age... but then I heard it.😄
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 I’m not a huge car person, but I totally get it!
What if you have only a bill of sale for the American vehicle but has not been transferred into your name through the DMV? Can you still reap the benefits of importing without being scalped?
Sorry Giovanni, I have no idea. It is an interesting question.
I don't know if my following comment is still valid under the current legislation or not, but here it goes...
a) instead of importing your own car from your country, you can, at least was possible years ago, to buy a new car (but you still need the proof of ownership, of half a year or more, of a car in your country of origin prior of moving to pt) and have the IA (imposto automóvel) waived, which also waived the 23% IVA (or VAT) over this IA part. There is/was a time limit for you to apply for this waiver and complete the purchase, either half a year after coming to pt or within the 1st fiscal year after coming in, don't remember.
b) either you buy a new car with this waiver or importing your own car without needing to pay this tax, there is a time (2 years I think) that you cannot sell the car.
Carlos, thanks for that added detail. I think it helps me see it clearer. If you bought a car in Spain 6 months before arriving, that would make sense... I think, if I am following. Interesting about the 2 years... I was not aware of that, for sure.
Let me give an example of this...
You own a car in the US, for more than 6 months, at the time you moved to PT. You did not import that car. (Sold it for example).
Once in PT you went to a new car dealership and decide to buy a brand new 50K€ BMW. You apply for the IA waiver (through the dealer, some will do it for you).
Once accepted, instead of paying the full 50K€, you will only pay, let's said, 35K€, (assuming 15K€ of IA + IVA over IA).
Basically you buy a new car for the price of a used one.
Oh, that is VERY interesting! I was not aware of that at all...
2013? How much of a warrente do you get? Aren't you worried about how much future issues Wii cost? Love the Vids.PS. automatic?
When you buy from a dealer the minimum warranty is 12 months by law and most will give you 24.months on used cars
@@lusonuno WOW. That's hard when you're used to 5 years
Alan, with 5 years, I assume you are talking about a new car? Or do you get 5 year warranties for used cars?
Yea... automatic... TBH, I am not sure if I would have went with a manual. Yes, I know car guys love manuals and only in the last 5 years did I own an automatic as my primary drivers... I love rowing the gears... but advancements and my age must be creeping up on me. Sometimes, it is just nice to look around and not worry about what gear I am in.
One other thought on future cost, I may purchase an extended warranty and if it is a minor problem, I will probably still repair it myself. Christie had a creative thought if I could rent some garage time and use their tools in some situations.
I am not sure you can change the car power in Portugal
Thanks Luis... I will start researching this. I am not in a hurry to upgrade. This car is already really fast... who knows.
There are some shops that work on the car computers and increase power, but that will kill the warranty.
Did you see any decent Mercedes {Automatic) doing your search ?
There are Mercedes EVERYWHERE! You will have no problem finding them!
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 Thanks, you guys are still there when we visit or move there drinks on us:}
"ohhh Cadillac type car" well you wont get those unless you buy something from the 70's and older, the other thing is the car you bought we consider it here a 2+2, besides also yes indeed it's expensive on the gas millage, other point is that maintenance is more expensive then other EU brands, besides that there are near has capable performance cheaper cars around that aren't bmw, but you enjoy, great...
Yea... that Cadillac has moved out in history - The 135 has a pretty good backseat... Pretty happy with that. I do suspect the maintenance will cost more. Fair point on the performance for cost as well.
You should start a separate video channel all about cars.
Too much here to explore to talk about cars :-) But I guess sometimes the trip is the destination!
why not get a EV?
Maybe our next car :-) I have spent so many of my years with gas cars it is a little bit hard to even "think about it". It is coming...
I would have bought an ev .
rik marx, maybe the next car. To be honest, I did not give EVs much thought. Maybe my age and decades of internal combustion engines, but I was thinking about it yesterday purely objectively, and I think it is fair to say that knowing we were going to be all over the country, not knowing where EVs would plug in and charging them on the AirBnB dime might be an issue. But, maybe the next car if the infrastructure becomes like gas stations. We just drove across Portugal, Spain, France, and Italy in 3 days. I don't know if that would be possible with an EV. I have much more to learn on that front!
Given that you are an expat, you are not a citizen, why would you want to import the car into Portugal? Why not simply buy the car in Spain and leave it registered in Spain. This would be akin to a Portuguese person visiting California driving a car registered in Ohio. You are not a resident of either place.
Jamie, that is an interesting thought. I am guessing I would have to have a "Visa" in Spain, though that may not be right. To buy this car I had to have a NIF in Portugal. I think maybe the confusion lies in, we are "Visa" residents of Portugal... you have me thinking... not really sure.
@@fulfillthegameoflife1998 You do not need a visa for Spain as it is simply another state within the EU. I lived in Poland with my UK Land Rover but technically you can only do this for a few months but you are moving all the time so so is the car. This is purely discussion. I am not a lawyer. No one asked me at the border how long I had been there when I left. If they had I could have said 3 months even though I was there 2 years.
There is a lot of "Creative thinking" in here... probably an opportunity I missed. I will be wiser the next time... :-)
Hi want bye car
Wow, not sure if I would own a BMW in Portugal. They are very unreliable!
I have been driving them for 25 years with very few problems... I hope it remains that way. But I will admit newer cars have so many electronics that can go wrong. I will keep my fingers crossed and keep a warranty on them :-)
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Good luck
Cool that it's a 3.0 NA! Portimao track day!
I wonder if I could ship my 2018 GT3 to Pt.?