I just want to add that a lot of us including myself have "dream speakers" that costs thousands of dollars and we look forward to owning them later in our life time (perhaps when we are retired) but in my opinion, Tekton brings us something incredible here.... 70-80% of a dream speaker that can be owned and afforded at any point in our life time without the wait.
Totally Agree. I have Tekton Speakers and they are simply incredible. They outclassed by previous speakers that cost 3x the price by a significant margin.
1379 I love my Pendragons and they look and sound amazing. Sure, I would be happy to have something better and more expensive, but bang for the buck I can’t imagine and haven’t heard anything even close.
@@blackknight7017 ...and many youtube commenters are trolls. Many of the components I run were bought at the recommendation of youtube reviewers like NBTS, New record day and Steve Guttenberg etc. These guys usually don't review stuff they don't like. I've bought and listened to many positively reviewed pieces of gear and loved it. This includes my Iotavx SA3, Schiit Mani phono pre, Tekton EnZos, cables etc... and my system sounds really good. These guys put a lot of work into what they do. If you'd listen to the gear and pay attention to the synergy of your system in the implementation of that gear you'd probably be appreciative as well. Im grateful for people like Soulsik who provide this service and you should be too if you've gotten any benefit from it.
I really appreciate your sincerity and the fact that you’re not afraid to give your opinion even if it may not be in line with the “mainstream” audiophile thinking. Thats refreshing and that’s why I subscribed. I would like to add too that your technical explanations are very informative and clear.
Awesome review. I bought a pair of Pendragons aprox 6 months ago after auditioning almost 15 other pairs of spkrs costing $10K-$15K, and I couldn’t be happier. They beat em all out IMO. They really opened up after about 75-100 or so hrs of break in time, then they really started to amaze me. They just keep sounding better to me. Your description of them is spot on, and I thank you for your time. Their designer and Tekton owner, Eric Alexander is one of the kindest, down to earth, but most importantly honest guys in HiFi today.
FRANZ FANON Resale and investment. Most audiophiles will recognize a natively built model as higher end within a product series. For example, B&W, REL, Sonus Faber, etc have their higher end products built natively and lower series elsewhere. There is a difference in both quality and cost. This is no different in other audio products and industries.
I think the best way to think about this particular line array is that each speaker has a job and it's different enough from eachother that they can specialize in what they are doing. This allows for accurate and loud response for each because they aren’t being stressed to hit really high notes or really low notes(for the 2 mids). Tekton is on my short list to outfit my new house with.
The Tekton designer won an award for subwoofer of the year way back before he started Tekton so he knows to get serious bass out of a pair of 10 inch woofers. I wonder if the Dragons or the DE are considered the sweet spot in their line up.
I like what you said about these speakers bringing a lot of joy into what we perceive as great audio. My experience has been similar. I can listen to these speakers for hours because they recreate the music in a live and accurate way without being overbearing. Your comparison with vintage JBL speakers is spot on!
I have ordered Moabs and was thinking the same thing about them being sort of like co-axial. Its funny seeing this video now because I was talking to Eric about it just the other day. He didn't disagree. Its not exact of course, there is a line aspect to it, and it can get a whole lot more technical. But the co-axial aspect accounts for the cohesive imaging, and the line array dispersion with lower than usual loss with distance helps account for the efficiency and contributes to dynamics. Overall just a great design. Cannot wait to hear my Moabs!
very good review , I have a pair of Lores , which for sure don't approach these (have never listened to Pendragons either) , but my ears tell me is Tekton speakers break the rules . I have a set of AAD 2001 monitors which are the best I have listened to up to 10k $ and now prefer my Lores. You touched on what I feel is the design philosophy , speakers that sound like you are in the studio or intimate fine venue . They deliver vocals and instruments as if they are in front of the listener. Another bonus is driving the lores with a 40/side vintage luxman SS makes them sing , no need for the high powered amp for these.
Do you think for a small room ( 3 mts x 3.5 mts ) this speaker it's too overkill? i don't know but i'm thinking to buy a sub to my R300, but this speaker are really good at this price..
I'm kind of late to this review. I'm in the market for floor standing speakers. The Pendragons and SVS Ultras are about the same price. Has anyone heard both speakers and can give their opinion?
While you may not know of the Spatial M series speakers, they are within this price point, therefor they are in direct competition with Tekton...and I believe are better in the Bass department. Check them out, no box, no frills, just an awesome sounding speaker 🔊
FRANZ FANON , my guess is that he is not getting compensated to review any of the things he reviews. That’s the way things mostly are in UA-cam land... and might I ask what your point is? New Record Day reviews them with no compensation...
Great review.. while I can't expect you to know this, I'm hoping others on this thread may, wondering what may be the difference between these and the impact monitors or Dynamite, both in the same general price range?
I ran across your channel by accident it is hard to find Places that will give dedicated rooms for Hearing speakers and audio everybody's doing it the Best Buy way now I enjoyed your review please keep up the good work I will be subscribing to your Channel
I agree with the review. I have 3 different pairs of Tekton speakers in my home: IMPACT monitors, the DOUBLE IMPACT SE floorstanding, and the Ulfberht floorstanding. My first pair was the IMPACT monitors, which I threw up against my then, reference speakers, the B&W 800 D3s, at $30k a pair. The Tekton IMPACT monitors beat the B&Ws a lot, in all but, lowest bass, and a tad less high frequency sparkle compared to the B&W diamond tweeter. Meaning, I concur that a $2k Tekton can be 70% to 80% of a speaker in the $20k to $30k range. It was for me...
I’ve been doing a collection of equipment built in the USA and I have been interested in the Double Impacts. I have two pairs of Magnepan’s which I intend to keep... but thinking of adding the Double Impacts as part of my listening arsenal. How does the midrange sound to you?
@@epi2045 The Midrange is one of the strengths of the Double Impacts. It is very warm, full bodied, nuanced, and natural sounding. The Maggies will have more treble "sparkle", but I think you will like the midrange from the Double Impacts better.
Doan Trinh I sprung for the mercedes black metal flaked paint and it is amazing. That said, I bought before the DI came out and now would have bought those.
@@billybunter3753 and why is that, because you've heard the Pendragons and own 20k speakers? He's not the first to say that they compete, and favorably, with speakers much more expensive! Heck, a good buddy of mine owns Triton Reference that are 8k. He favors my Pendragons over those! Dont by into the hype? Pffft🙄
** why bad mouth a speaker you haven’t auditioned? That is just dumb. If you think he is getting rich off of his speakers that compare with speakers 2-10x as expensive, imagine how much money the other guys are making! He offers a Be version if you need to spend your inheritance on a set of speakers.
Great review I own the SEAS Pendragon model Running off a soundcraftsman A2502 amplifier and there's just nothing out there that compares for the price
With these speakers you pay for the tuning/experimentation of these tweeters. With other Tekton speakers all the tweeters are placed on top. The higher the speaker model the more tweeters and tuning. How complex is the insides: empty space and crossovers.
Ribbon horns are the answer. The only reason to run a speaker like this is to run SET. You can actually build the Mcauley lens equipped JBL array using newer neo motors from a few companies like Fatailpro. I would use SET with a ribbon horn . Those old JBL with Mcauley lens arrays lead you to ribbon horns or basically a magnaplanar in a horn body. All the physics of that configuration work.
@@wishusknight3009 I wouldn't be so sure about that , JBL Hartsfield and Everest are no joke . But yeah , ribbon horns seem to be the future and alot of people love the ribbons you have. The trick is to combine it with SET to have an amp that's otherwise too expensive to own . Its because of the sensitivity. Ribbons have improved microdetail and projection capabilities.
MTM configurations are nothing new or novel. It is just choosing to use the same driver rather than specialized drivers. (presumably for cost) When I had a good sit down listen to these speakers I was at first seemingly impressed with what detail they were presenting, but when I was really getting down to it I found they were not really very good. The apparent detail they were presenting was really it only exaggerating things which it shouldn't be doing. Those tweeters have some nasty resonances which are not part of the music. And it gives the illusion of detail when it really isn't. In the end I didn't find these speakers worth their asking price and found them mediocre at best.
Nick Coyle lower moving mass using in this case 2 tweeters to handle upper mid range. It allows the speakers to be quicker and more efficient vs a traditional 3-way design.
no , this is not coaxial disain, coaxial principle is to radiate sound from one point "in space". these radiate like standart speaker. tweeter placement in midle, on top. sound will be the same. also al coxialas have saw like SPL like this" 20hz -/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/-20khz"
MTM speakers big center channels standing up lol JK great review. Your doing an awesome job ! I know you like great sounding Vintage speakers if you get a chance check out the Pioneer HPM-100s with updated crossovers thier amazing sounding 4 way speaker's and JBL L-100 killers and that's coming from a huge JBL fan, (4344) but The HPM are 75 pounds each ! But thank you for all your hard work !!!
This isn't point source... It's line array. Point source is when the sound is coming from the same position. It's a d'apolito design with kind of a 2.5 way crossover where the center a tweeter is playing HF while the top and bottom are playing as of they're full range.
They are by Eminence, a company that does make pro drivers. These are not PA speakers they just have the accordion surround which never wears out or changes it's resistance over the years like foam.
Sorry, one more point: Tekton is a "Direct to the Consumer" company. They are NOT just a company, that sells to retailers, AND direct. Thus, they will give a better value, by eliminating the pricing margin of wholesale to retail, then; retail to consumer.
Let me say that I like your videos. But I notice you have trouble with your vocabulary. Your young enough to make significant changes with some effort. Id suggest reading. This doesn’t cost much, just get a library card. The added benefit is you can expand your knowledge on subjects of interest. I don’t want you to misunderstand, I just want to help you as you have helped me understanding Hi Fi audio
Your spelling and grammar is hot garbage and you want to correct him on his vocabulary? If you were half as smart as you think you are, you'd be able to understand him just fine. Clown.
Gd speakers but why waist so much on speakers they all sound the same its all in ur head its an illusion u getting ripped off nd brain washed wow speakes 10,000 -20,000 speakers wtf more than my car and house for speakers wtf good night damn really unheard off whoa
I just want to add that a lot of us including myself have "dream speakers" that costs thousands of dollars and we look forward to owning them later in our life time (perhaps when we are retired) but in my opinion, Tekton brings us something incredible here.... 70-80% of a dream speaker that can be owned and afforded at any point in our life time without the wait.
Totally Agree. I have Tekton Speakers and they are simply incredible. They outclassed by previous speakers that cost 3x the price by a significant margin.
@@_Chev_Chelios MOST OF THE UA-cam CRITICS ARE SHILLS.
1379 I love my Pendragons and they look and sound amazing. Sure, I would be happy to have something better and more expensive, but bang for the buck I can’t imagine and haven’t heard anything even close.
@@blackknight7017 ...and many youtube commenters are trolls. Many of the components I run were bought at the recommendation of youtube reviewers like NBTS, New record day and Steve Guttenberg etc. These guys usually don't review stuff they don't like. I've bought and listened to many positively reviewed pieces of gear and loved it. This includes my Iotavx SA3, Schiit Mani phono pre, Tekton EnZos, cables etc... and my system sounds really good. These guys put a lot of work into what they do. If you'd listen to the gear and pay attention to the synergy of your system in the implementation of that gear you'd probably be appreciative as well. Im grateful for people like Soulsik who provide this service and you should be too if you've gotten any benefit from it.
I really appreciate your sincerity and the fact that you’re not afraid to give your opinion even if it may not be in line with the “mainstream” audiophile thinking. Thats refreshing and that’s why I subscribed. I would like to add too that your technical explanations are very informative and clear.
Thank you ! Means alot
Very well said.
Awesome review. I bought a pair of Pendragons aprox 6 months ago after auditioning almost 15 other pairs of spkrs costing $10K-$15K, and I couldn’t be happier. They beat em all out IMO. They really opened up after about 75-100 or so hrs of break in time, then they really started to amaze me. They just keep sounding better to me. Your description of them is spot on, and I thank you for your time. Their designer and Tekton owner, Eric Alexander is one of the kindest, down to earth, but most importantly honest guys in HiFi today.
Nick Pantazi plus they are made in the USA.
@@epi2045 WHY DOES THAT MATTER?
FRANZ FANON Resale and investment. Most audiophiles will recognize a natively built model as higher end within a product series. For example, B&W, REL, Sonus Faber, etc have their higher end products built natively and lower series elsewhere. There is a difference in both quality and cost.
This is no different in other audio products and industries.
@@epi2045 THAT IS SO NOT TRUE. YOU LACK OBJECTIVITY.
FRANZ FANON You sound angry. Chill. We’re talking speakers. Advice - it’s faux pas to use all caps.
I think the best way to think about this particular line array is that each speaker has a job and it's different enough from eachother that they can specialize in what they are doing. This allows for accurate and loud response for each because they aren’t being stressed to hit really high notes or really low notes(for the 2 mids). Tekton is on my short list to outfit my new house with.
I respect that you said what had to be said. Truth always stands on its own! Plus they actually ARE outstanding. Well done!!
The Tekton designer won an award for subwoofer of the year way back before he started Tekton so he knows to get serious bass out of a pair of 10 inch woofers. I wonder if the Dragons or the DE are considered the sweet spot in their line up.
I like what you said about these speakers bringing a lot of joy into what we perceive as great audio. My experience has been similar. I can listen to these speakers for hours because they recreate the music in a live and accurate way without being overbearing. Your comparison with vintage JBL speakers is spot on!
Just got my set of pendragons with the upgraded crossover and 7tweeter array. Just amazing
Same I got mine awhile back and these and my ls50s are the best speakers I ever heard hands down.
I have ordered Moabs and was thinking the same thing about them being sort of like co-axial. Its funny seeing this video now because I was talking to Eric about it just the other day. He didn't disagree. Its not exact of course, there is a line aspect to it, and it can get a whole lot more technical. But the co-axial aspect accounts for the cohesive imaging, and the line array dispersion with lower than usual loss with distance helps account for the efficiency and contributes to dynamics. Overall just a great design. Cannot wait to hear my Moabs!
Hi Jay, pen is their HT line would it be better getting ENZO compact for music listening instead?
very good review , I have a pair of Lores , which for sure don't approach these (have never listened to Pendragons either) , but my ears tell me is Tekton speakers break the rules . I have a set of AAD 2001 monitors which are the best I have listened to up to 10k $ and now prefer my Lores. You touched on what I feel is the design philosophy , speakers that sound like you are in the studio or intimate fine venue . They deliver vocals and instruments as if they are in front of the listener. Another bonus is driving the lores with a 40/side vintage luxman SS makes them sing , no need for the high powered amp for these.
Ordered the Pendragons with the 7 tweeter array and crossover upgrade in orange 2 weeks ago. i cannot wait to get them.
Do you think for a small room ( 3 mts x 3.5 mts ) this speaker it's too overkill? i don't know but i'm thinking to buy a sub to my R300, but this speaker are really good at this price..
Nice review. Thanks for explaining the purpose of the design.
Hello, how do these compare to the " Perfect Set " with 6 tweeters and one 12 inch woofer?
Nice review man. Short and sweet
Would it be good choice for home theater setup?
Thanks for the review
Good comment, is it a good combination with the Rega Elex r amplifier with 72w per channel in 8 ohms to move these speakers?
I'm kind of late to this review. I'm in the market for floor standing speakers. The Pendragons and SVS Ultras are about the same price. Has anyone heard both speakers and can give their opinion?
While you may not know of the Spatial M series speakers, they are within this price point, therefor they are in direct competition with Tekton...and I believe are better in the Bass department. Check them out, no box, no frills, just an awesome sounding speaker 🔊
HE'S NOT GETTING COMPENSATED TO REVIEW THE M SERIES.
FRANZ FANON , my guess is that he is not getting compensated to review any of the things he reviews. That’s the way things mostly are in UA-cam land... and might I ask what your point is? New Record Day reviews them with no compensation...
Great review.. while I can't expect you to know this, I'm hoping others on this thread may, wondering what may be the difference between these and the impact monitors or Dynamite, both in the same general price range?
I ran across your channel by accident it is hard to find Places that will give dedicated rooms for Hearing speakers and audio everybody's doing it the Best Buy way now I enjoyed your review please keep up the good work I will be subscribing to your Channel
Eric Alexander is a genious speaker designer...
I agree with the review. I have 3 different pairs of Tekton speakers in my home: IMPACT monitors, the DOUBLE IMPACT SE floorstanding, and the Ulfberht floorstanding. My first pair was the IMPACT monitors, which I threw up against my then, reference speakers, the B&W 800 D3s, at $30k a pair. The Tekton IMPACT monitors beat the B&Ws a lot, in all but, lowest bass, and a tad less high frequency sparkle compared to the B&W diamond tweeter. Meaning, I concur that a $2k Tekton can be 70% to 80% of a speaker in the $20k to $30k range. It was for me...
Wow amazing if you comparing them to your legendary speaker that's totally amazing
I’ve been doing a collection of equipment built in the USA and I have been interested in the Double Impacts. I have two pairs of Magnepan’s which I intend to keep... but thinking of adding the Double Impacts as part of my listening arsenal. How does the midrange sound to you?
@@epi2045 The Midrange is one of the strengths of the Double Impacts. It is very warm, full bodied, nuanced, and natural sounding. The Maggies will have more treble "sparkle", but I think you will like the midrange from the Double Impacts better.
Mark Hampton I think I’m going to order these with the upgrade network. I wish it wasn’t $1,000 for the high gloss finish. Thanks for the advice.
Doan Trinh I sprung for the mercedes black metal flaked paint and it is amazing. That said, I bought before the DI came out and now would have bought those.
Great review Next, thanks for the info.
Thank you for the viewership and motivational comment !
what speaker would be the next step up from these?
Probably Double Impact. Then from that is Double Impact SE.
Great video and explanation, thank you 🙏🏼
wow! glowing review. $2K for $20K performance. Will have to look into this. Thanks for the video.
no problem !
2k for 20k performance? Impossible! Don't buy into the hype!
@@_Chev_Chelios just a misunderstanding. Im sure he meant well
@@billybunter3753 and why is that, because you've heard the Pendragons and own 20k speakers? He's not the first to say that they compete, and favorably, with speakers much more expensive! Heck, a good buddy of mine owns Triton Reference that are 8k. He favors my Pendragons over those!
Dont by into the hype? Pffft🙄
@@ericsunbacon745...Okay then kid, whatever you say...😂
I think they should do one with 1 cone in kevler and the body in apoxy for better resonance. And a bit more refine design.
1800 dollars delivered. Updated crossovers.
Man they look sweet.
@1379
It says that certain Tekton spkrs crossovers were updated on their website under the description of the speakers.
** Why do you say “dude, it’s junk”? Have you actually heard a pair set up correctly in a decent system?
** why bad mouth a speaker you haven’t auditioned? That is just dumb. If you think he is getting rich off of his speakers that compare with speakers 2-10x as expensive, imagine how much money the other guys are making! He offers a Be version if you need to spend your inheritance on a set of speakers.
Could you please try and review triangle speakers floor standing models
Great review
I own the SEAS Pendragon model
Running off a soundcraftsman A2502 amplifier and there's just nothing out there that compares for the price
Jay
Where can i buy this speakers , please advise. Any local dealers?
Only direct
With these speakers you pay for the tuning/experimentation of these tweeters. With other Tekton speakers all the tweeters are placed on top. The higher the speaker model the more tweeters and tuning.
How complex is the insides: empty space and crossovers.
Will you be getting the baby sister "DragonFly" for review?
Has anyone ordered the speakers with the seven tweeter array instead of the three?
What opinion of passive drivers on the resonace of sealed cab vrs none???
NIce choice for the shirt
wich of the tektron speakers would be best for prog (dream theater) heavy metal (Judas Prist)
Did you buy any Tekton?
@@tcc5750 No
Try out the DIs or Moab’s :)
Maybe that they are paper cone drivers have a lot to do with their natural sound.
What CD player are you using in your setup
Naim cds !
Why do the tweeters have dimples in the center?
They are ring radiator tweeters. The dimple anchors the diaphram.
I'd be amazed if that didn't have phase cancellation issues. Line source is a different presentation than point, I prefer point myself.
Because this is not a line array. Top and bottom tweeters are not going above 2-2.5 kHz.
Why no actual audition with high quality microphone?
I saw you on the Toronto subway about a month ago.
please review the Lore speaker..
Nice!
Ribbon horns are the answer. The only reason to run a speaker like this is to run SET. You can actually build the Mcauley lens equipped JBL array using newer neo motors from a few companies like Fatailpro. I would use SET with a ribbon horn . Those old JBL with Mcauley lens arrays lead you to ribbon horns or basically a magnaplanar in a horn body. All the physics of that configuration work.
@@dednside5229 I use Hiel AMT's. They killed the JBL line arrays
@@wishusknight3009 I wouldn't be so sure about that , JBL Hartsfield and Everest are no joke . But yeah , ribbon horns seem to be the future and alot of people love the ribbons you have. The trick is to combine it with SET to have an amp that's otherwise too expensive to own . Its because of the sensitivity. Ribbons have improved microdetail and projection capabilities.
MTM configurations are nothing new or novel. It is just choosing to use the same driver rather than specialized drivers. (presumably for cost) When I had a good sit down listen to these speakers I was at first seemingly impressed with what detail they were presenting, but when I was really getting down to it I found they were not really very good. The apparent detail they were presenting was really it only exaggerating things which it shouldn't be doing. Those tweeters have some nasty resonances which are not part of the music. And it gives the illusion of detail when it really isn't. In the end I didn't find these speakers worth their asking price and found them mediocre at best.
I don't understand how 3 tweeters creates better efficiency compared to 1. You have to drive 3 tweeters now, so doesn't that cost more power?
Nick Coyle lower moving mass using in this case 2 tweeters to handle upper mid range. It allows the speakers to be quicker and more efficient vs a traditional 3-way design.
no , this is not coaxial disain, coaxial principle is to radiate sound from one point "in space". these radiate like standart speaker. tweeter placement in midle, on top. sound will be the same. also al coxialas have saw like SPL like this" 20hz -/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/-20khz"
MTM tweeter array
MTM speakers big center channels standing up lol JK great review. Your doing an awesome job ! I know you like great sounding Vintage speakers if you get a chance check out the Pioneer HPM-100s with updated crossovers thier amazing sounding 4 way speaker's and JBL L-100 killers and that's coming from a huge JBL fan, (4344) but The HPM are 75 pounds each ! But thank you for all your hard work !!!
Are you digging the Pendragons?
Edit I said Impact
yes I am !
This isn't point source... It's line array. Point source is when the sound is coming from the same position. It's a d'apolito design with kind of a 2.5 way crossover where the center a tweeter is playing HF while the top and bottom are playing as of they're full range.
Kef r3 or these?
Tekton for sure
Ohh papi
Echidna be lookin like a snacc
Aren’t those pa woofers
They are by Eminence, a company that does make pro drivers. These are not PA speakers they just have the accordion surround which never wears out or changes it's resistance over the years like foam.
@@herrtrigger7220 oh yeah, foam does rot really quickly in my experience
Sorry, one more point: Tekton is a "Direct to the Consumer" company. They are NOT just a company, that sells to retailers, AND direct. Thus, they will give a better value, by eliminating the pricing margin of wholesale to retail, then; retail to consumer.
@** Idiot.
EV T35s and JBL 075s enuff said !!
I am not so sure they can compare to 70-80% of a set $20,00 speakers. So why buy a $20,000 set of speakers, maybe just to show off.
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Jay, you now lost all credibility!
Let me say that I like your videos. But I notice you have trouble with your vocabulary. Your young enough to make significant changes with some effort. Id suggest reading. This doesn’t cost much, just get a library card. The added benefit is you can expand your knowledge on subjects of interest. I don’t want you to misunderstand, I just want to help you as you have helped me understanding Hi Fi audio
Your spelling and grammar is hot garbage and you want to correct him on his vocabulary? If you were half as smart as you think you are, you'd be able to understand him just fine. Clown.
Rubbish, no chance of any consistent responce with 3 tweets.
Gd speakers but why waist so much on speakers they all sound the same its all in ur head its an illusion u getting ripped off nd brain washed wow speakes 10,000 -20,000 speakers wtf more than my car and house for speakers wtf good night damn really unheard off whoa
Suuuuure. You probably crank the bass and treble to maximum.
@@wishusknight3009 Thats how I do it in maah trayler wit mah vaygas mayun.
Three years later... are you still a broke clown? Puto.