Imagine being a dark elf conscripted into the war effort expecting blood carnage and slaves to bring back to Naggarond and the moment you get into live combat you go up against statues that look at you menacingly.
Death wizard is better to bring than you think, against any army that isnt immune to terror, you can almost instantly rout something if you debuff them
@@Multiyuppp It's harder on VH battle difficulty with the leadership debuffs. But sure that's decent. The point is more that a single Necrotect can provide +15 armor, 10% MR, 6% AP Damage, and +5 MA to every Heirotitan in range. That's really good and well worth dropping one Titan or wizard for.
@@doktarr gonna have to disagree there i play on legendary and leadership debuffs are even more important on their because of the higher enemy leadership thats kinda the whole point lol
Had you used reanimate whenever you were looking at Khatep's abilities and it was ready, rather than try to get the most out of each use, you would have ended the battle with much less damage across the whole army. There is no reason to try to conserve an ability with a 60 second cooldown time and unlimited uses.
Also, regularly using cheap nehekhara buff spells for realm of souls procs during downtime would have kept all those titans and heroes getting healed at once, rather than using pit of shades spells on the approach which did almost nothing.
You should start a Patreon with one of the tiers giving us access to these save files (with the owner's permission) so we can attempt to fight these battles ourselves.
Id love to see more Tomb Kings content! They're always a pleasant surprise and refreshing break from the other races as few people seem to play them. Its also that much more impressive to see a "doomstack" from them because of the unit caps
My biggest peevee with the scorpions are that when they do that underground dive attack there is chance they get stuck in terrain and become unusable and if they get stuck inside indestructible terrain like some parts of walls in sieges are, they just straight up die. They are good unit but its annoying to be forced to replace one or two of em after most sieges.
A fair rating, but it did incredibly well considering the circumstances. In raw damage potential, this is a really good army. A shame it *is* so difficult to obtain.
I have wanted to see a hierotitan doomstack for a while. I think they are one of the coolest units in the game, much more than the sphinxes. Also nice to see Legend shaving fun with magic :)
@@MelficeN7 The palpatine meme. Turin references it 7 times a day. (To be clear, I was kidding; Turin did not of course invent palpatine memes. I tried to convey the irony by overstatement via so many adjectives.)
@@MostlyUnreadArmchairExpert Irony passed right over my head, and it was pretty obvious, now I feel so stupid lmao. This is truly what fanboying does to a man.
I guess I'm not surprised that Legend dislikes Death magic for them, but I think it's a fair bit better than Nehekhara. You have to overcast Skullstorm to make it decent while Purple Sun is pretty strong regular cast. Also all the tier 1 Nehekhara spells are pretty lousy (in campaign) while Soulblight is a really nice debuff to use with lower tier TK armies.
The best kind of doomstack for tomb kings is mixed stacks not single unit spams just like skaven weapons team doomstacks they are great together not on their own For example Tomb king monsters like heirotitans has a lot of staying power and resistance but lack the killing power and for that you can bring 2 casket of souls and 5-6 Ushabti great bows and help them out even further with 3-4 necropolis knights and your army can take on every thing So you need only about 6-7 heirotitan for that kind of doomstack And about tomb scorpions i kinda agree with legend cuz there is a lord and hero trait that buffs the tomb scorpions by a fair amount and stacking it by 2-3 times will give you a very strong tomb scorpion army but again i tell you tomb scorpions are not great on their own either they are very great when you mix them with necrosphinxes and in this order the scorpions will delete every infantry from the map and the sphinxes will taking care of cavalries and monsters really easy In my tomb king campaigns i always recruited 6 necrosphinxes and 10 scorpions and believe me that combination was the bane of every thing AI could muster!!! You should definitely mix tomb king monsters to get greater results
Dude idk how the hierotitans survived all that black guard. That’s always what makes Dark Elves so hard to fight in campaign, it’s so hard to get black guard to rout and late game stacks have like at least 8 of them
Spirit Leech might suck but having 16 uses of it at once would probably really hurt their lord, surprised he didnt use it at the start since it was a free cast
it doesn't stack. If you cast 16 spirit leeches at the same time it will count as 1 spirit leech. You have to use them one after another which is a pain to do when all hell is breaking loose.
My thoughts for how good their magic when playing as Tomb kings: Nehekara: Life magic, but heals for your skellies(early game units) Light: Banishment, Net of Amynthok. That's all you need to know(think this applies to all light wizards) Death: BAD Shadow: Best of all 4. Shame that you can only get it after you get 6th book of Nagash
Priest of Nehekhara would be nice in this type of army because of that passive ability which heal all characters on battlefield when casting. I am not exactly sure if Khatep has that in his skillset.
probably could have done with casting the bound spirit leeches on the heroes to kill them faster. I get that the spell isn't great, but it was there for free so you may as well.
dont forget every necrotitan has 3 free spells. 3*16=48. thats 48 spells that can be used to sniper single entities, and chip away at monsterous infantry/ cav
I wonder if the army would be better with 1-2 less wizards and a more diverse hero pick, then again seeing armys stopped by titans that shoot lazers and magic constantly being active is VERY terrifying and satisfying. -1 wizard or -1titan +1 necrotech?
I mean I can’t say it’s particularily Super Late Game if you min max everything right, pretty sure you can have it like 20 or 30 turns after finishing off Dark Elves if you’re not rushing particularily hard but going at a normal pace. In Mortal Empires that is
If they didn't want the army to be based on magic, they wouldn't have put so much of it in the army. The TK are terrible without magical buff on the table so it makes sense that the TW version is the same.
at this point can we just say any single entity army with enough magic backing it up is a dumb stack? that's like 90% of these submissions. can your mages kill everything before your single entities die? yes? send it to legend as a "doomstack"
I know he's been sent a 19 Unbreakable Loremaster stack, but someone should send him a 18/19 Loremaster of Hoeth with Conductor trait stack and Teclis. Now that's unlimited power and infinite magic.
And that is why I have a mod wich makes the heirotitan have a second version; with a giant bow. Cuz why not mske then a bit weaker in melee but make em a arty unit.
I wonder if it'd be smart to put in some chaff units solely for the sake of activating the Realm of Souls mechanic? Putting some heals down on the hierotitans throughout the game might be nice
@LegendofTotalWar Why not overcast pit of shades? It's less than double the cost but does more than double the damage because of all the armor piercing it does.
Using Pit of Shades on a unit of Shades is the type of irony I like to see
The only true pit of shades.
"Ironic" is ironically one of many iconic quotes that has been said by character on the thumbnail
Only stinky stupid shades go in the pit
I'll betcha they're the same fuckers that were trying to look Settra's tomb
@@jor1456 Emperor Palpypoo
The thumbnails are getting better and better! 😂
Imagine being a dark elf conscripted into the war effort expecting blood carnage and slaves to bring back to Naggarond and the moment you get into live combat you go up against statues that look at you menacingly.
And when you approach, they start to look at you with lasers.
They're just standing there...... Menacingly!!! 😱
Second wave starts charging with chariots and shades*
Legend: I am too weak
*Enemy blobs up*
Legend: POWEEER UNLIMITED POWEEEEEEEER
Legend every time he has to explain why you need to put a Life Wizard in your single entity armies: "Use my knowledge, I beg you."
@@davidant8901 it's so obvious, i don't know why people need to be reminded of it ^^
I dont think Tomb Kings have access to Life lore of magic, thats why there was no life priest.
@@sinisalakic1461 Not for this army, but I feel like he mentions it in about half of these videos.
Hello there
Attack on Hierotitan
This comment is like super underrated
Prhotep the wizards!
These dark elves are like:
SHINZOU SASAGEYO
I can just hear Turin 🛡 cackling and repeating "Anakin, I'm too weak!" over and over again while watching this video 😂
"Settra, I'm too weak" is probably more accurate in this case.
Hello there
General kenobi....
ah nice to see tomb kings in "rate my doomstacks"
rate my tombstack
@@Wimpymind bonestack
just after seeing doomstack composition - hmm i think it would be better to switch one wizard for architect. Construct bonuses and so on :)
Yes, also pretty good healing.
ye and heals which are accessible on ME
Might even make it easier for new players to use
*necrotect
@@theloneronin526 If you conquer a place you would want to have some nice buildings and a Starbucks. I agree with the architect choice.
I bet at first the army said:"i am weak"
after the enemy underestimated them they yelled:"POWER UNLIMITED POWER"
_"Let the _*_cheese_*_ flow through you. Good! Your _*_cheese_*_ has made you powerful."_
Everything about this comment is amazing
Why not replace the Death wizard with a necrotect? Wouldn't the construct buffs be handy?
Yes the construct buffs would be very nice and if any titan was to get hurt badly you could heal them faster than the base regen
One necrotect for the passive aura buffs would be really nice. The healing wouldn't be super significant in the context of the full army.
Death wizard is better to bring than you think, against any army that isnt immune to terror, you can almost instantly rout something if you debuff them
@@Multiyuppp It's harder on VH battle difficulty with the leadership debuffs. But sure that's decent.
The point is more that a single Necrotect can provide +15 armor, 10% MR, 6% AP Damage, and +5 MA to every Heirotitan in range. That's really good and well worth dropping one Titan or wizard for.
@@doktarr gonna have to disagree there i play on legendary and leadership debuffs are even more important on their because of the higher enemy leadership thats kinda the whole point lol
Get rid of the Death Wizard and get a Necrotect in that stack. His Missile Resistance buff would've been super handy here.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how cool looking this army is
Had you used reanimate whenever you were looking at Khatep's abilities and it was ready, rather than try to get the most out of each use, you would have ended the battle with much less damage across the whole army. There is no reason to try to conserve an ability with a 60 second cooldown time and unlimited uses.
Also, regularly using cheap nehekhara buff spells for realm of souls procs during downtime would have kept all those titans and heroes getting healed at once, rather than using pit of shades spells on the approach which did almost nothing.
@@Anonie324 they all have regen tho
First time Ive seen AI armies back off and regroup from the fight!
You should start a Patreon with one of the tiers giving us access to these save files (with the owner's permission) so we can attempt to fight these battles ourselves.
that is a cool idea
"Oh, Oh legend... I'm too weak......"
Turin: “No Anakin, I’m too weak!!!”
"legend pls rate my MAGIC doomstack"
legend: FINALLY, MAGIC CHEESE
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise?
Who would win:
A bunch of emos
Some magic statues
MIGHTY STATUES!
Well if the AI was better I would of vouched for the DE. With so many missle units if they target 1 unit at a time they will delete it in seconds.
Autoresolve : Anakin, i'm too weak!
Actual Battle prowess : unlimited poweeeer
Id love to see more Tomb Kings content! They're always a pleasant surprise and refreshing break from the other races as few people seem to play them. Its also that much more impressive to see a "doomstack" from them because of the unit caps
They say "Liche Priest of Nehekara" because they're from Nehekara, not because they use the lore of Nehekara
That thumbnail tho 😂🤜🤛
Hello there
@@jor1456 General Kenobi!
My biggest peevee with the scorpions are that when they do that underground dive attack there is chance they get stuck in terrain and become unusable and if they get stuck inside indestructible terrain like some parts of walls in sieges are, they just straight up die. They are good unit but its annoying to be forced to replace one or two of em after most sieges.
A fair rating, but it did incredibly well considering the circumstances.
In raw damage potential, this is a really good army.
A shame it *is* so difficult to obtain.
Seeing elves slaghtered mercilessly pleases me greatly
The dreaded hirotitan stack vs the haggard reinforcements
so very haggard
crazy how he had half of his army just standing around getting shot at the end
The Jedi are taking over.
I have wanted to see a hierotitan doomstack for a while.
I think they are one of the coolest units in the game, much more than the sphinxes.
Also nice to see Legend shaving fun with magic :)
This is the most Khatep of armies I've ever seen!
Here’s the question: Does Legend credit Turin for his legally licensed, exclusively trademarked, original and patented meme?
Which one?
@@MelficeN7 The palpatine meme. Turin references it 7 times a day.
(To be clear, I was kidding; Turin did not of course invent palpatine memes. I tried to convey the irony by overstatement via so many adjectives.)
@@MostlyUnreadArmchairExpert Irony passed right over my head, and it was pretty obvious, now I feel so stupid lmao. This is truly what fanboying does to a man.
Who's turin
Another TW youtuber
Heirotitans are monsters that improve your winds of magic.
"How dare you use your winds of magic?!"
There needs to be necrotec in there especially in mortal empire.
24:41 props to that unit of black ark corsairs (handbows) that killed that one hierotitan
Legend misused Shem's. He had a few occasions to snipe dragons.
Probably in his programming to hate magic missiles lol. Justified, but I mean, when you have 38 free missiles, you might as well use them.
I would like to mention that the potion of toughness might have been useful to use for the melee defense bonus for dangerous situations
"They want to get organized.... I want to slaughter them."
Palpatine in the thumbnail. This does put a smile on my face :)
I guess I'm not surprised that Legend dislikes Death magic for them, but I think it's a fair bit better than Nehekhara. You have to overcast Skullstorm to make it decent while Purple Sun is pretty strong regular cast. Also all the tier 1 Nehekhara spells are pretty lousy (in campaign) while Soulblight is a really nice debuff to use with lower tier TK armies.
Ole MAn Sjelli Bois getting his team Match fit for a Chaos invasion unfriendly.
Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!
If you look very closely you can see Brendan Fraser on another whacky Mummy adventure
I think legend of total war is a sith lord.
Worse, he is a skaven
@@GhostOfBuscemi Darth Ratticus best-greatest Sith Lord, yes-yes!
Darkshards have a ton of AP, really perfect unit vs monstrous units.
The best kind of doomstack for tomb kings is mixed stacks not single unit spams just like skaven weapons team doomstacks they are great together not on their own
For example Tomb king monsters like heirotitans has a lot of staying power and resistance but lack the killing power and for that you can bring 2 casket of souls and 5-6 Ushabti great bows and help them out even further with 3-4 necropolis knights and your army can take on every thing
So you need only about 6-7 heirotitan for that kind of doomstack
And about tomb scorpions i kinda agree with legend cuz there is a lord and hero trait that buffs the tomb scorpions by a fair amount and stacking it by 2-3 times will give you a very strong tomb scorpion army but again i tell you tomb scorpions are not great on their own either they are very great when you mix them with necrosphinxes and in this order the scorpions will delete every infantry from the map and the sphinxes will taking care of cavalries and monsters really easy
In my tomb king campaigns i always recruited 6 necrosphinxes and 10 scorpions and believe me that combination was the bane of every thing AI could muster!!!
You should definitely mix tomb king monsters to get greater results
Legend is so good, he can even fix Disney Star wars
Disaster campaign
I dunno, that may be beyond even his godly abilities.
Could be done, just gotta waste their ammo.
Imagine hating on sheograths greatest rival for the utilisation of cheese, goddamn heathens
Rival? You don't understand, Legend is Sheo's most gifted student.
First time I see a
That's a whole new level of cheese, I love it !
Would love to see more TK doomstacks
Edit: Or Vampire Coast
Dude idk how the hierotitans survived all that black guard. That’s always what makes Dark Elves so hard to fight in campaign, it’s so hard to get black guard to rout and late game stacks have like at least 8 of them
Armies with more than one or two wizards are a total nightmare to control...
All I’ve really learned from this series is horse mounted mages are really really good, better if they can fly too
Having at least one necrotect for auras would've been much better than having 4 wizards, 2 of which are essentially useless.
Opening UA-cam - New Legend Video just went up. Aw yisss!
Man, this new Mummy movie is great
If you had a wizard that heals constructed units it would been great.
Spirit Leech
might suck but having 16 uses of it at once would probably really hurt their lord, surprised he didnt use it at the start since it was a free cast
it doesn't stack. If you cast 16 spirit leeches at the same time it will count as 1 spirit leech. You have to use them one after another which is a pain to do when all hell is breaking loose.
My thoughts for how good their magic when playing as Tomb kings:
Nehekara: Life magic, but heals for your skellies(early game units)
Light: Banishment, Net of Amynthok. That's all you need to know(think this applies to all light wizards)
Death: BAD
Shadow: Best of all 4. Shame that you can only get it after you get 6th book of Nagash
Priest of Nehekhara would be nice in this type of army because of that passive ability which heal all characters on battlefield when casting.
I am not exactly sure if Khatep has that in his skillset.
11:27 Initiate evasive maneuvers!
i love the lore of shadows
probably could have done with casting the bound spirit leeches on the heroes to kill them faster. I get that the spell isn't great, but it was there for free so you may as well.
Lol legend is like a mount and blade player with the weaving and lone hero charging about
Should replace the death wizard for a necrotect for the massive buffs they give constructs.
dont forget every necrotitan has 3 free spells. 3*16=48. thats 48 spells that can be used to sniper single entities, and chip away at monsterous infantry/ cav
I wonder if the army would be better with 1-2 less wizards and a more diverse hero pick, then again seeing armys stopped by titans that shoot lazers and magic constantly being active is VERY terrifying and satisfying. -1 wizard or -1titan +1 necrotech?
I mean I can’t say it’s particularily Super Late Game if you min max everything right, pretty sure you can have it like 20 or 30 turns after finishing off Dark Elves if you’re not rushing particularily hard but going at a normal pace. In Mortal Empires that is
"I don't wanna get Khatep off though. But if I have to I will."
Probably would be better to replace the death wizard with a Necrotect since they buff constructs and can heal them.
So many missed spells...I want see more shit get banished in future leg end
If they didn't want the army to be based on magic, they wouldn't have put so much of it in the army. The TK are terrible without magical buff on the table so it makes sense that the TW version is the same.
Dude you need to say "see ya fakas" more often
Tomb king voice lines are black metal quality
Literally end game Ai armies
Legend: Some of the forces are pretty bad
at this point can we just say any single entity army with enough magic backing it up is a dumb stack? that's like 90% of these submissions. can your mages kill everything before your single entities die? yes? send it to legend as a "doomstack"
I know he's been sent a 19 Unbreakable Loremaster stack, but someone should send him a 18/19 Loremaster of Hoeth with Conductor trait stack and Teclis. Now that's unlimited power and infinite magic.
And that is why I have a mod wich makes the heirotitan have a second version; with a giant bow. Cuz why not mske then a bit weaker in melee but make em a arty unit.
wow this battle was intense u barely scraped out of it
If only TK had better magic lores, metal or fire would be insane with that build.
I wonder if it'd be smart to put in some chaff units solely for the sake of activating the Realm of Souls mechanic? Putting some heals down on the hierotitans throughout the game might be nice
The pillar man doomstack
a necrotect would be great in this army I think
*looks at thumbnail* My Legend how you’ve aged
Ah yes when auto resolve was still decided by a yellow and red bar
Judging by their voices I guess the tomb kings died from smoking 10 packs a day
I don't think Lung Cancer is a concern for guys without lungs
@LegendofTotalWar Why not overcast pit of shades? It's less than double the cost but does more than double the damage because of all the armor piercing it does.
It still seems a bit arbitrary which doomstacks you decide you use good magic tactics on and which you just send in fully to "test them".
The strongest part about this is the fact that they give wizards an op buff 😂
You had a lot of bad luck on the vortex spell casts, probably would have been easier otherwise.
"le grand terrassement"
Anybody else hate that he doesn't go over the value that each unit did during the battle?
I feel like tomb kings with their limits mechanic are not supposed to have any spam doomstacks. But what then their doomstack should look like?
Would a Necrotect have been better for their ability to heal the Collussi? Just wondering...
The thumbnails are getting better and better
Why not use Net and Pit of shades together?
5:25 Did those Raven Heralds land and attack in melee? what cheese was that
The A.I is retarded and never uses them correctly from my experience.
The AI being dumb and seeing the hierotitans solely as spellcasters/support units would be my guess.
It looked like the ai was trying to use them as dark conduit bombs.