No, of course not. I started yesterday and I should be done before Memorial Day weekend (at latest). I wouldn't be surprised if there were people watching it 10, 15 years after it was uploaded. The history of Rome is a most fascinating subject; I just can't ever get enough of revisiting it.
43:30 "and as you can see GDP is up, unrest in Greece is down and the auspex chickens have eaten well, by the way we should destroy Carthage, just putting it out there guys"
Imagine that today. Like Biden is up there in the senate “Yes, and this is why I think we should raise taxes 5% on the top 10% of earners, while lowering them on the bottom 20%. In addition we also need to spend more on infrastructure, and lower military spending. Also, I am of the Opinion we should burn down Tunis.”
In regards to episode 28. It is remarkable how modern events seem to parallel Roman history. In particular, wealth disparity, the rise of the oligarchs and how this lays the foundation for tyranny. This does not bode well for the future because we live in a time where large scale events can happen in a very short period of time. I am enjoying this series. Thank you..
really love this podcast. brilliant content. only wish that the sound quality was a little better, but honestly I would listen to this entire thing even if the sound quality was way worst. A testament to the content.
It's the best. I listen to it in bed and find my self sometimes dreaming about what he's talking about because it's left on as I fall asleep, then I wake up and have to skip back to were I fell asleep 😂
Everything is excellent! I love well written well narrated (watch the occasional mouth smacking noise between sentences) good voice, good speed, excellent!!
"For all these years, the republic had survived for 2 main, overarching reasons: the lower class plebians had not been so impoverished that they had been driven to violent revolution to improve their material lot in life, and the upper class was unified enough that their internal rivalries did not spill out into the public sphere. Both of these critical linchpins were about to be removed, leaving civil war and class conflict as the order of the day." Well fuck...
Caught an error: Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus' younger brother was not named Gnaeus. 25:06 His name was Lucius Cornelius Scipio later called Scipio Asiaticus for his victory over Antiochus.
I caught that too. Thanks for pointing it out. Why was his name changed? I suppose the default answer is by mistake. However I think since the modern era we associate Asia with non-European peoples,
@@LoneKharnivore Populists don't polarize society: they take advantage of an already polarized societies. You can't blame somebody for banging your wife if you can't satisfy her.
The Senatorial class broke the law by monopolising land. The Gracchi brothers broke the law to fix that (before dying at the hands of Senatorial death squads). As great as Mike Duncan is, he echoes the views of those who sent the death squads by blaming the Gracchi brothers for violating the 'sacrosanct' law, while gliding past the rampant law-breaking that made it absolutely necessary.
_"It's historical, it's human, you have to have an enemy. So much was built out of this role of the enemy. Your foreign policy, quite a bit of your economy, even your feelings about your country. To have a really good empire, you have to have a really evil empire. _*_We are going to do a terrible thing to you, we are going to deprive you of an enemy."_*_ -_ Georgi Arbatov, _speaking of the Glasnost demilitarization of the Soviet Union, and the implications for the United States_ Eerily familiar.
First time I have heard the quote. Simple, perceptive, seems acurate that without a motivating force a construct needs substituing into the place, or another challenge rise into the space.
America is not an empire and has never been an empire. What Empire that has ever existed gave what they had just fought and bleed for right back to the people they were just fighting? There is no society that ever conquered a people then turned around and gave it back to them, everyone said we went to war in Iraq for oil, yet we gave all the oil contracts to the French, We have the Canadians right to our North, huge natural resources, yet we get into trade wars verse taking it they could not stop us. No what has happened to the U.S. started in the 1930s with the welfare state that started with all the social programs Rosevelt implemented. The same happen to the British at the same time. There are always enemies to fight. No what has happened is a huge bloated federal government, Before WW2 began we had a military of a little under 1 million men, we spent no money on defense. No we made another mistake after WW2 we didnt finish it. The Russians had an Alliance with Germany to spilt up Europe, the English and the Frech went to war because Germany and Russia invaded Poland. Yet we let the Soviets keep what the had wanted to begin with. No we were tired of war and took the easy way out instead of turning our nuclear arsenal against them and finishing it before they got nukes, What America has lost is quit simple, or leaders now have no incentive to innovate. They have cushy 250k jobs great benefits, 8 and a half weeks paid vacation every year. America could not win a war with China or Russia. No what we lost wasnt an enemy to fight but the courage to fight the enemies that have pulled a Paplatine
@@tylerscofield9799 typical American yank. Believes the whole world, full of perceived "enemies" should be dominated by America; nuked if necessary Grow up and get your head out of your ass
Well at least the podcast is completely finished so you can binge all of them without waiting. I just found it about a year ago. Enjoy. It's also on Spotify if you have that, so you don't have to keep youtube open.
@@Omegaxero Yes! Part of his revolutions series. Do you know anybody who does a good take on US history after the fall of the Soviets up until the Recession of 08?
This series is so good, thank you so much for sharing this with us! I think that the USA can learn many a lesson from this period of the late republic. As I see it, the high class of the country beneffited so much from globalization, that they left the working class unattended. This, based on an overreached discourse of liberty and self-determination... Which has proven itself impractical. I say this with no ill will, best from Colombia, brother country to the US.
please explain how "overreached discourse of liberty and self determination"? I am an American i believe where the world and America has gone wrong. Is people have distilled liberty. Where u say it is impractical. I say Liberty died when people thought the government gives u liberty. Humans need suffering look at the American youth their life's are so good that they are willing to burn down their own neighborhoods for people not calling them, "it, her, she, they". The Romans proved this also. They became so soft, nothing was enough.
The U.S. won't learn it - just as the Roman ruling class did not. The only path forward for humanity is for the rest of the world to see the U.S. for what it truly is, not the beneficent force they imagine it to be.
Tommy O Donovan That is why the USA needs Russia and vice versa. Without either countries, those two countries would need "made up" threats which are actually very insignificant to distract their people.
nodinitiative Nothing at all not trying to say your wrong. Just in my opinion foreign threats can be made up as well. Fear mongering on a global scale to keep the division intact.
Seige a city with 2 armies 1 main army, 1 support army support army is all war dogs Knock a hole in the walls unleash thousands of pissed of war dogs into their city Laugh, look down on them and laugh
I love that 2 of the greatest generals of all time, who had both got power at age 25 & fought each other, had a discussion of greatest generals of all time. My list would be: Napoleon, Agrippa, Hannibal, Julius Caesar, Labienus, Davout. Looking at this list it seems really Rome & Naplonic France biased so I probably have gaps, there were some good German/Prussian ones. I would like to see how the Starcraft guys like ,Reynor, Gumiho & Kiwikaki would do as generals.
No, he was not. In fact, he was a despicable commander. Keep in mind that greek (macedonian) phalanx was just a solid line of hoplites armed with spears and shields. Light infantry (peltastai) and cavalry were separate units under overall command of senior commander. If phalanx became splinted, light infantry or cavalry should fill the gaps and prevent any flanking. But this require sharp eye, quick mind and decisive reaction. In the hands of skilled commanders like Alexander or Pyrrhus this would work quite well. But in the hands of less skilled commander, all this would crumble. On the contrary, roman legion had its own organic light infantry and cavalry. So, any suddenn change on the battlefield would trigger the reaction at a mid level command. Even in the hands of a less skilled senior commander, the degree of initiative at mid level command would exploit any oportunity or prevent an overall disaster. Of course, this arrangement would not prevent debacles like Cannae. It doesn't matter how skilled your subordinate commanders are if the senior commander is a dumbass. :)
No. I’ve got rusty old synapses turning back into excited highways myself. My oldest son finished binging the series and also loved it. In 1968 I spent a few months wandering all over Greece and crashed in the hippie community living in the furnished caves at Matella in Crete. Hitchhiking up to Thessaloniki to sell platelets or blood just to refresh stash $ 😂 Those were wonderful times in the global counterculture 😊
@@HateTaxesWASt In current usage, “decimated” is usually referring to some near-absolute catastrophe, much worse than the 10% casualty rate of the literal Roman usage. Not that it matters a whit but out of curiosity, I wonder when that particular word began to be misused. I know that languages change all of the time but not all of the changes are for the better.
@@ThisTrainIsLost Current useage is so poor when we have the word "Annihlate" to mean reduce to nothing. Which is better when we are talking about destruction whilst exagerating the amount. "Decimate" is rather an undersell.
23:55 Parchment omfg Papyrus!? Wtf. Pergamon was a rival to Alexandria because pergamon used sheep skins for their library. Which rivaled Alexandrias library and we get the name PARCHMENT from pergamon.
How can they not trust Hannibal, who swore a vow of hatred to Rome & lived accordingly , to fight Rome as general of the army. I get fearing popularity/Jealousy but I think they underestimated Hannibals hatred of Rome.
13:53 disappointing to hear a skilled roman era narrator use the term "decimated" contrary to its true meaning.... suggesting it means devastated, rather than taking 10% casualties.
...you realise that the period after the empire fell was disastrous, right? It was only Charlemagne re-uniting a large European community that ended centuries of conflict and strife.
Excellent content. Just wish you wouldn't convert the letter "I" into an Anglo- diphtong . Epirus (uh Pye rus) Instead of EH- pih- rus. Gracchi (Gra-kye) instead of Grah-kee. Otherwise lovely narration.
The Greeks weren't "eastern", they laid the foundation for western civilization, they started it, Greece was just the funnel of the east into the West, but as I said, the ancient Greeks started what we know as western civilization.
Their entire independent history was spent looking east, first fighting the persians, then athenian empire, then Alexander, then fighting over Alexanders empire. All east or eastwards. They sent some colonies west but very few comparatively. How exactly do you think they laid the foundations for western civilisation?
@BLUE DOG the antikhytera device was created while greece was already firmly under roman rule. The question in this thread was aboit the oldest civilizations, which certainly weren't the Greek, not by a landslide. The Sumerians, the Akadians, the Egyptians, hell even China all had bustling cities and vast empires while the greeks were nothing more than disorganized hill tribes. The Greek civilization was impressive and certainly unique, but you should really read some history books before you go ahead and call people stupid.
BLUE DOG BLUE DOG Your the idiot if anything by adding the requirement of creating something smarter than the other group. Civilization is groups of people coming together in urban areas due to the advancement of agriculture and religion, the Sumerians were older than the Greeks, and so where Mesopotamia, and Egypt, and those three actually formed enpires. I don’t understand where your coming from, because simply put, and using your argument, the Greeks arnt even a civilization! Because we have Macs, items that can access the vast wealth of human knowledge at our finger tips! What do they have? A primitive computer that has very very limited uses? As said by my favorite fictional character, just like your mind, so uncivilized! :)
if greece was so free. why were they so small minded and not unifying their country into greece. if they had learned to put aside their small, petty crap aside maybe they wouldn't have been rolled over by the romans so easily.
Where is Greece on the map ,the story that there is a Greek people is fake, there is a alphabet that is now called greek but it is called Phoenix or something else that came from Egypt . But the truth is that it is the Illyrian peninsula where their only descendants today are Albanians. The Greek name began to be used 150 years ago ,when the world agenda decided to make a state out of many races that had the Orthodox Christian religion , and the native Albanians were removed from their country and replaced by Asian and Caucasian . When you talk about history , you cannot call the old Greek cities,those who live in that country today do not know how to read the old writings that are engraved in the archaeological sites. You can call them Illyrian cities but not Greek.
Am I the only one binge listening to this six years after it was put on UA-cam
🙋♀️
No, of course not. I started yesterday and I should be done before Memorial Day weekend (at latest). I wouldn't be surprised if there were people watching it 10, 15 years after it was uploaded. The history of Rome is a most fascinating subject; I just can't ever get enough of revisiting it.
3rd time listening to this
Nope, I listen to this often. It's the best history lesson I've ever heard!
I am on the 3 run...So no :)
43:30 "and as you can see GDP is up, unrest in Greece is down and the auspex chickens have eaten well, by the way we should destroy Carthage, just putting it out there guys"
:)
Lmao ooo
Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
Imagine that today. Like Biden is up there in the senate “Yes, and this is why I think we should raise taxes 5% on the top 10% of earners, while lowering them on the bottom 20%. In addition we also need to spend more on infrastructure, and lower military spending. Also, I am of the Opinion we should burn down Tunis.”
I highly recommend everyone give each episode two listens.
Atleast for myself, I soak so much more in on the 2nd listen .
Same, too much info to get it all the first time around
Ok dude
@@JasonParmenter lol
Sone people listen to this for fun 😅
Mike Duncan made a book detailing a lot more this period. The Storm Before the Storm. Really worth checking it.
Thank you for letting us know! I’ll definitely check it out.
The book is simply......MARVELOUS!
Yeah this is his podcast
This is literally him
@@XDivineSouljax yea, that's why I referenced his book
In regards to episode 28.
It is remarkable how modern events seem to parallel Roman history. In particular, wealth disparity, the rise of the oligarchs and how this lays the foundation for tyranny. This does not bode well for the future because we live in a time where large scale events can happen in a very short period of time.
I am enjoying this series. Thank you..
Your comment rings especially true this year
legodude19999 fr
Called it.
History is cyclical.
@@alexanderiverson707 only those who fail to learn from it.
Brilliant podcast series. Great work Mike
really love this podcast. brilliant content. only wish that the sound quality was a little better, but honestly I would listen to this entire thing even if the sound quality was way worst. A testament to the content.
If it means that much to you, then just buy one.
This is my 100th time listening to this podcast... so damn good
It's the best. I listen to it in bed and find my self sometimes dreaming about what he's talking about because it's left on as I fall asleep, then I wake up and have to skip back to were I fell asleep 😂
Everything is excellent! I love well written well narrated (watch the occasional mouth smacking noise between sentences) good voice, good speed, excellent!!
"For all these years, the republic had survived for 2 main, overarching reasons: the lower class plebians had not been so impoverished that they had been driven to violent revolution to improve their material lot in life, and the upper class was unified enough that their internal rivalries did not spill out into the public sphere. Both of these critical linchpins were about to be removed, leaving civil war and class conflict as the order of the day."
Well fuck...
ever feel like your beginning to see a trend?
Even more oh fuck now...
Even more oh fuck now
21:40 is the "I'll fuckin' do it again" meme.
Caught an error: Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus' younger brother was not named Gnaeus. 25:06 His name was Lucius Cornelius Scipio later called Scipio Asiaticus for his victory over Antiochus.
no one cares
@@nicholaskrancher2693 i care ~~
@@juanferrero2009 me too
I caught that too. Thanks for pointing it out. Why was his name changed? I suppose the default answer is by mistake. However I think since the modern era we associate Asia with non-European peoples,
I've changed my name to don't give shitious
I AM LOVING THIS SERIES AND WISHED I HAD FOLLOWED WHEN IT CAME OUT!!!!!
Cheap labor displacing the working class seems to be a common theme in history
Everything in history is a common theme, that's why it's so important. He also talks about populist politicians polarising society, for example.
@@LoneKharnivore Populists don't polarize society: they take advantage of an already polarized societies.
You can't blame somebody for banging your wife if you can't satisfy her.
@@Big-guy1981 Oportunists are still devicive. They see a powder keg and decide perfect conditions for a lit match.
This series is so good, thank you so much for sharing this with us!
@@gm2407 Who created the powder keg?
This episode describes so well the western world today.
Love it! been listening to these every day!
same here, its my life's enjoyment and contrast listening to rome and turn these into latin
Terrence McLain Me too. Just wish he presented maps to better illustrate his narration.
You MUST be deaf not to hear that hissing.
At around 12:00 what in God's name is that fly doing in your microphone?
The Senatorial class broke the law by monopolising land. The Gracchi brothers broke the law to fix that (before dying at the hands of Senatorial death squads). As great as Mike Duncan is, he echoes the views of those who sent the death squads by blaming the Gracchi brothers for violating the 'sacrosanct' law, while gliding past the rampant law-breaking that made it absolutely necessary.
_"It's historical, it's human, you have to have an enemy. So much was built out of this role of the enemy. Your foreign policy, quite a bit of your economy, even your feelings about your country. To have a really good empire, you have to have a really evil empire. _*_We are going to do a terrible thing to you, we are going to deprive you of an enemy."_*_ -_ Georgi Arbatov, _speaking of the Glasnost demilitarization of the Soviet Union, and the implications for the United States_
Eerily familiar.
They found a new enemy rather quickly haha
@@kajbubu *made up
First time I have heard the quote. Simple, perceptive, seems acurate that without a motivating force a construct needs substituing into the place, or another challenge rise into the space.
America is not an empire and has never been an empire. What Empire that has ever existed gave what they had just fought and bleed for right back to the people they were just fighting? There is no society that ever conquered a people then turned around and gave it back to them, everyone said we went to war in Iraq for oil, yet we gave all the oil contracts to the French, We have the Canadians right to our North, huge natural resources, yet we get into trade wars verse taking it they could not stop us. No what has happened to the U.S. started in the 1930s with the welfare state that started with all the social programs Rosevelt implemented. The same happen to the British at the same time. There are always enemies to fight. No what has happened is a huge bloated federal government, Before WW2 began we had a military of a little under 1 million men, we spent no money on defense. No we made another mistake after WW2 we didnt finish it. The Russians had an Alliance with Germany to spilt up Europe, the English and the Frech went to war because Germany and Russia invaded Poland. Yet we let the Soviets keep what the had wanted to begin with. No we were tired of war and took the easy way out instead of turning our nuclear arsenal against them and finishing it before they got nukes,
What America has lost is quit simple, or leaders now have no incentive to innovate. They have cushy 250k jobs great benefits, 8 and a half weeks paid vacation every year. America could not win a war with China or Russia. No what we lost wasnt an enemy to fight but the courage to fight the enemies that have pulled a Paplatine
@@tylerscofield9799 typical American yank. Believes the whole world, full of perceived "enemies" should be dominated by America; nuked if necessary
Grow up and get your head out of your ass
Unreal. I pray youtube never remove this
It was hard for me to fully take this one in, I was too worried that at any point you'd get attacked by the bee's. (11:30)
I think those are cicadas.
😂 i thought it was my brain after a Brit heard some dubious pronounciation 😂
I love Roman History and am disappointed that I just found this podcast series.
Well at least the podcast is completely finished so you can binge all of them without waiting. I just found it about a year ago. Enjoy. It's also on Spotify if you have that, so you don't have to keep youtube open.
21:18 “Who’s the best general NOW, sucker?” 🤣
I love the intro, and the show of course.
Could you please make the same about the Byzantine empire? The quality of your work is amazing. Keep it up!!
12 byzatine emporers
@@aslanlovett4059 Amazing!! Thank you!!!
“History of Byzantium Podcast.”
It’s ongoing right now, and on UA-cam.
A series like this on US history could be really good too!!
If you find someone, Ill literally pay them
@@Moribus_Artibus He did do one on the US revolution that was good.
@@Omegaxero Yes! Part of his revolutions series. Do you know anybody who does a good take on US history after the fall of the Soviets up until the Recession of 08?
Get busy professor.
U.S. history is pretty boring to non Americans apart from the civil war.
1:10:07 good enough description of today!
Ungrateful fatherland, you won't even have my bones. What a guy, im so glad he was granted control of the army.
This series is so good, thank you so much for sharing this with us!
I think that the USA can learn many a lesson from this period of the late republic. As I see it, the high class of the country beneffited so much from globalization, that they left the working class unattended. This, based on an overreached discourse of liberty and self-determination... Which has proven itself impractical.
I say this with no ill will, best from Colombia, brother country to the US.
please explain how "overreached discourse of liberty and self determination"?
I am an American i believe where the world and America has gone wrong. Is people have distilled liberty. Where u say it is impractical. I say Liberty died when people thought the government gives u liberty. Humans need suffering look at the American youth their life's are so good that they are willing to burn down their own neighborhoods for people not calling them, "it, her, she, they". The Romans proved this also. They became so soft, nothing was enough.
The U.S. won't learn it - just as the Roman ruling class did not. The only path forward for humanity is for the rest of the world to see the U.S. for what it truly is, not the beneficent force they imagine it to be.
@@LTrotsky21stCentury Says the communist
@@tylerscofield9799 real shit
Thank you sir for talking me to sleep for years
Skipio, Learn form Hannibal, Hence that's why Hannibal was the greater General. He and Hannibal knew this.
Yes. But skipio defeated hannibal. Why? Because hannibal failed to learn from skipio. Ergo, skipio was the better general.
@@hongcha2020 Argo ben Affleck
@@hongcha2020 people can not even write his name right, so he can not be the greatest
Its Scipio
Woe to the conquered
146 B.C. the day Rome lost....a worthy enemy.
And turned inward and civil war.
Tommy O Donovan That is why the USA needs Russia and vice versa. Without either countries, those two countries would need "made up" threats which are actually very insignificant to distract their people.
nodinitiative I hope you realize what you just said there.
Alexander Hernandez tell me what is wrong with my statement.
nodinitiative Nothing at all not trying to say your wrong. Just in my opinion foreign threats can be made up as well. Fear mongering on a global scale to keep the division intact.
Alexander Hernandez your opinion is basically what I also said
Thanks for the info. Has the book been out long? Is it easily available?
I am a fan. Good stuff.
This+Total War Rome II= "The Die is Cast!","Over the Rubicon!!!"
Rome 1 is way better
Seige a city with 2 armies
1 main army, 1 support army
support army is all war dogs
Knock a hole in the walls
unleash thousands of pissed of war dogs into their city
Laugh, look down on them and laugh
Ma'Zareen ua-cam.com/video/c6ATAJLdLuw/v-deo.html
Really, not much is about Roman History... just a song Crossing the Rubicon. Hope you like...
Slavery in ancient Rome sounds more like a modern compulsory internship with more benefits, depending on your um... employer.
Nah. They were housed and fed and paid depending on who the dominus was
I love that 2 of the greatest generals of all time, who had both got power at age 25 & fought each other, had a discussion of greatest generals of all time. My list would be: Napoleon, Agrippa, Hannibal, Julius Caesar, Labienus, Davout. Looking at this list it seems really Rome & Naplonic France biased so I probably have gaps, there were some good German/Prussian ones. I would like to see how the Starcraft guys like ,Reynor, Gumiho & Kiwikaki would do as generals.
Macedon at that time was ruled by the descents of Antigonus who originally ruled Asia minor but later took Macedon. Phillip V is his descendent.
39:15 sarcasm right? Nothing about Perseus seems to indicate he was extraordinarily competent by any means.
No, he was not. In fact, he was a despicable commander.
Keep in mind that greek (macedonian) phalanx was just a solid line of hoplites armed with spears and shields. Light infantry (peltastai) and cavalry were separate units under overall command of senior commander. If phalanx became splinted, light infantry or cavalry should fill the gaps and prevent any flanking. But this require sharp eye, quick mind and decisive reaction. In the hands of skilled commanders like Alexander or Pyrrhus this would work quite well. But in the hands of less skilled commander, all this would crumble.
On the contrary, roman legion had its own organic light infantry and cavalry. So, any suddenn change on the battlefield would trigger the reaction at a mid level command. Even in the hands of a less skilled senior commander, the degree of initiative at mid level command would exploit any oportunity or prevent an overall disaster.
Of course, this arrangement would not prevent debacles like Cannae. It doesn't matter how skilled your subordinate commanders are if the senior commander is a dumbass. :)
I know I’m late but damn, could the volume be any lower? Have to wear headphones just to hear a single word.
58:45 a timestamp for me
No. I’ve got rusty old synapses turning back into excited highways myself. My oldest son finished binging the series and also loved it. In 1968 I spent a few months wandering all over Greece and crashed in the hippie community living in the furnished caves at Matella in Crete. Hitchhiking up to Thessaloniki to sell platelets or blood just to refresh stash $ 😂 Those were wonderful times in the global counterculture 😊
Thanks ,this is excellent
When you use the term “decimated,” do you mean it literally or colloquially?
In Roman times, it was literal, every 10th man would be killed. But now it's definitely colloquially.
@@HateTaxesWASt In current usage, “decimated” is usually referring to some near-absolute catastrophe, much worse than the 10% casualty rate of the literal Roman usage. Not that it matters a whit but out of curiosity, I wonder when that particular word began to be misused. I know that languages change all of the time but not all of the changes are for the better.
@@ThisTrainIsLost Current useage is so poor when we have the word "Annihlate" to mean reduce to nothing. Which is better when we are talking about destruction whilst exagerating the amount. "Decimate" is rather an undersell.
@@ThisTrainIsLost neither, incorrectly.
you cant get away with misusing the phrase "decimated" with students of Roman history 13:58
23:55 Parchment omfg Papyrus!? Wtf. Pergamon was a rival to Alexandria because pergamon used sheep skins for their library. Which rivaled Alexandrias library and we get the name PARCHMENT from pergamon.
,,, worth-while life n owl lessons per passage r amazing ...
How can they not trust Hannibal, who swore a vow of hatred to Rome & lived accordingly , to fight Rome as general of the army. I get fearing popularity/Jealousy but I think they underestimated Hannibals hatred of Rome.
Where is the beginning? Of roma i mean.
How would the battle of Zama gone for Scipio if Rome hadn't bribe it's way to victory?
Like every mistake America is making today, no one can Garrison a world.
Two continents are garrisoning the world?
Totally addicted
almost as well known was Congressman Traficant's mantra of "Beam me up Mr Speaker!"
The mispronunciation of envoy is a little annoying
SPQR
13:53 disappointing to hear a skilled roman era narrator use the term "decimated" contrary to its true meaning.... suggesting it means devastated, rather than taking 10% casualties.
I’m really disappointed that Carthage didn’t get salted moms eggs style.
RIP the Gracchis
The audio quality of these episodes is downright terrible, constant ringing and static in the background make it annoying to listen to
42:00
How can someone fuck up such brilliant content with such poor sound quality...
This is like listening to the fall of the eu. Hopefully sooner rather than late me hope's.
...you realise that the period after the empire fell was disastrous, right? It was only Charlemagne re-uniting a large European community that ended centuries of conflict and strife.
2024!
*War were declared.*
bro those cicadas
You heard them too?
Excellent content. Just wish you wouldn't convert the letter "I" into an Anglo- diphtong . Epirus (uh Pye rus) Instead of EH- pih- rus. Gracchi (Gra-kye) instead of Grah-kee. Otherwise lovely narration.
Markus Aunt-Knee
The Greeks weren't "eastern", they laid the foundation for western civilization, they started it, Greece was just the funnel of the east into the West, but as I said, the ancient Greeks started what we know as western civilization.
Their entire independent history was spent looking east, first fighting the persians, then athenian empire, then Alexander, then fighting over Alexanders empire. All east or eastwards. They sent some colonies west but very few comparatively. How exactly do you think they laid the foundations for western civilisation?
They were considered "Eastern" by the Romans at the TIME.
Flamininus, not Flaminius
The title and the episode to no match
...what? The title is absolutely accurate, that is the period covered by the video.
Good good
ha
1:15:19
don't believe anything until it's officially denied.....
Hellenic or early midieval would be clll
OH HELL NO THAT HISSING IS FUCKING TORTURE!
,,, ' el noma de la rosa " ...
I think you mean "supplemented" not "supplanted."
Gra cus(?)think it's a short a
,,, dept %-=+=+=-leverage *)( sic! ) ...
30:55 shkeemin
Everton are boss
I am still amazed how much Greece deserved every bit of it
,,, ' do YOU,, mr/s Smith-=+Jones */ t' paraphrase bob d. " ...
,,, privatized feudalism ...
,,, aductive beyond 8tall ...
Antiochus = an-TYE-oh-cuss.
I cant stand uk bloks talking about this.
Great channel
SOMETHING TO SLEEP BY....
Great podcast. Awful recording. Some headache inducing whines and screeches in this one.
The maniples defeated carthage and grece... The marian legions only themselves...
All of gaul? Full conquest of spain?
And the Levant, most of anatolia, egypt, and Britannia, Dacia etc. Etc. Etc.
excellent narrative, love it. but Greece isn't the worlds oldest civilization; Egypt is the worlds oldest civilization
Mesopotamia?
I think he was talking in place of the Greeks who probably thought they where the oldest and everyone else was barbarians
@BLUE DOG the antikhytera device was created while greece was already firmly under roman rule. The question in this thread was aboit the oldest civilizations, which certainly weren't the Greek, not by a landslide. The Sumerians, the Akadians, the Egyptians, hell even China all had bustling cities and vast empires while the greeks were nothing more than disorganized hill tribes. The Greek civilization was impressive and certainly unique, but you should really read some history books before you go ahead and call people stupid.
BLUE DOG BLUE DOG Your the idiot if anything by adding the requirement of creating something smarter than the other group. Civilization is groups of people coming together in urban areas due to the advancement of agriculture and religion, the Sumerians were older than the Greeks, and so where Mesopotamia, and Egypt, and those three actually formed enpires. I don’t understand where your coming from, because simply put, and using your argument, the Greeks arnt even a civilization! Because we have Macs, items that can access the vast wealth of human knowledge at our finger tips! What do they have? A primitive computer that has very very limited uses? As said by my favorite fictional character, just like your mind, so uncivilized! :)
BLUE DOG what a pity the current day Greeks cannot even keep an economy together....
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Nope. I love the story, and his presentation and voice
if greece was so free. why were they so small minded and not unifying their country into greece. if they had learned to put aside their small, petty crap aside maybe they wouldn't have been rolled over by the romans so easily.
Where is Greece on the map ,the story that there is a Greek people is fake, there is a alphabet that is now called greek but it is called Phoenix or something else that came from Egypt .
But the truth is that it is the Illyrian peninsula where their only descendants today are Albanians.
The Greek name began to be used 150 years ago ,when the world agenda decided to make a state out of many races that had the Orthodox Christian religion , and the native Albanians were removed from their country and replaced by Asian and Caucasian . When you talk about history , you cannot call the old Greek cities,those who live in that country today do not know how to read the old writings that are engraved in the archaeological sites. You can call them Illyrian cities but not Greek.
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