Great episode!!! I wish you guys did this more often. Well done guys. P.s I have officially joined Team Sam. I was a little on the fence at first but seeing how he pushed through all the mean comments and stayed positive is a wonderful thing. Keep up the great work guys!
I loved the return to Q&A format and the range of topics covered. Look forward to more. I get the timeless, classic, and understated elegance of the 222. The connoisseur's choice (befitting of this channel!), and a full yellow gold precious metal watch that isn't blingy. Whilst, I’ve enjoyed trying on several watches from Vacheron in their boutique and particularly love the Historiques 1921 American...honestly I've not personally ever had the privilege to see and feel a 222 in person…so my opinion here is far more limited to footage! ....My main concern is that at retail it feels 15-20k over-priced relative to a full precious metal time-only Patek or AP, and it lacks a more tapered bracelet and more textured dial. I'm a sucker for dials and love natural stone dials. So personally, I'd be more tempted with the AP RO 37mm yellow gold with the natural stone Turquoise dial (albeit far less understated and more of a liability to wear). I also love the Day-Date and have been tempted at various points by the black onyx (yellow gold), the under-appreciated Eisenkiessel (rose), or meteorite (white/platinum). If money was no object (sadly it is) in platinum i (again) love the AP RO perpetual calendar but way out my price range.
@@v0llm1lch Based on what? Just a hunch? It was a huge hit and a stainless and TT both existed during the original run...I don't see an obvious reason why they wouldn't do it.
Really surprised that you mentioned Cavour. It is from Oslo, where I live. Great brand with lots of products on sale as well. Although I don’t recommend visiting their store as the service is pretty awful. I also own suits from them, and in particular their flannel suits are great! Lots of love from Norway. You guys are my favorite UA-cam channel. Keep up the great work!!
Does anyone know what type of sweater Christian is wearing? I know he’s mentioned Ralph Lauren in the past, however I’m having difficulty finding this pattern online
Great episode as always! Would really appreciate some advise, I was in the market to buy a Daydate Olive or YG Onyx, but a buddy of mine has offered me a Platinum ICE BLUE ROMAN BLUE QUADRANT DIAL (discontinued recently) for 55k USD, which is roughly about the same as an Olive/Onyx price. What would you recommend from an investment standpoint? I think this watch had a fluted bezel I’d definitely pull a trigger but I’m not sure about the smooth bezel on the Platinum… Please help! 🙏
Liked the video. Would love to see some of the older “disproportionate value” vids on dressier gold watches. Hoping to get into a neovintage/vintage piece in the upcoming year!
Test 318...what if we hide Sam behind the camera and just have Harris speak directly to the camera? Will there be less hate in the comments? I dont mind Sam at all. Just think it's interesting seeing your tests in different formats.
Loved this episode So man coming from a platinum DD owner just take my word for it, whenever its your time to get it you’ll LOVE it - my biggest regret was to sell it and buy a royal oak chrono.. bad move.. live and learn
I really like watches but I don't see the value in the same way other people do in the sense that watches I don't love tend to be huge price tags, and then a lot that I think are way more appealing to the eye I'll look up and see a price tag I expected in the AP or patek, rolex price
It's so on point about Lange. I had the chance of buying the 1815 Chronograph in Rose Gold. After a few days, I felt like, damn, why do I still want a Patek Chronograph... I thought I was done after the Lange. I wasn't.
FYI~ I wear PJ sets. I enjoy Cartier design. However, Cartier destroying $MM's in watches due to overproduction seriously turns me off (keeps me IN my PJs). As a business owner, I understand the business sense.. but with that, I also understand that biz practice is compared to making too much pasta for dinner and going outside to the homeless and burning the food in front of them. BTW~ Christian I love your shows, appreciate your opinions and enjoy your joie de vivre. I say these things because as I watched 16 Candles last night... I realized that you are the Italian version of Anthony Michael Hall's character in that movie. Who's with me?
Yeah, RR is BMW group and Audi is VW group. Both wills screw you once warranty expires. Rolex is easily serviceable and VC will drill you a second azzhole
Navy suit is the standard, and then charcoal. Unless you wear a suit constantly, don’t get anything too far from those basic colors. And don’t get a black suit unless you go to a lot of funerals.
I disagree. If you are only going to own one suit, it should be black and three piece. You can wear it so many different ways to create dozens of different looks. If not black then charcoal grey for the same reason.
Pajama guy here 🙋🏻♂️ I have about 5 sets that I wear, typically in the colder months. J crew is a good place to get into it because they go on sale often, but Petite Plume is my go-to. I felt silly when I first wore one (my wife got a couple good jabs in when she first saw me), but after a night or two that goes away. I get the same feeling wearing my pajama sets as I do every time I put on my favorite suit, if that makes sense lol
@Theo and Harris Would love for you guys to go back and revive your style videos "Off Topic", really enjoyed your video on the Allen Edmond Dalton Shell Cordovan boots. Go back every once in a while and check it out just because of the style choices in that video. Cheers, keep up the amazing work 👏
The “Just a nail” bracelet is not a “best” bracelet. It is a gloried nail that Cartier is charging you big bucks for. If you want punk jewelry, buy a real bracelets instead of Richie Richie level hipster golden nails
lol have to admit I love it for a couple of years now ever since I bought my wife the ring they offer in yellow gold.. in due time I’ve realized its really hyped but I feel for good reason - definitely a fan of the new Medium size offering
I think that thirsting for anything luxury watch related is basically the last refuge of racism. Oh a white guy made a nail, it’s 10x more valuable than a Japanese guy making a nail. Etc, etc.
I love that this old segment is coming back! Looking forward to more Q&As with Christian!
where did you get the aligator briefcase? what brand?
Great episode!!! I wish you guys did this more often. Well done guys.
P.s I have officially joined Team Sam. I was a little on the fence at first but seeing how he pushed through all the mean comments and stayed positive is a wonderful thing. Keep up the great work guys!
I’m glad you’re liking him! He loves being here!!!
Love the inner monologue about the gem-set Sub spilling out in real time! lol
Great Q&A segment gents. Nice to see this format come back! Thanks for the interesting watch discussion. Best wishes to T&H for 2024.
I loved the return to Q&A format and the range of topics covered. Look forward to more.
I get the timeless, classic, and understated elegance of the 222. The connoisseur's choice (befitting of this channel!), and a full yellow gold precious metal watch that isn't blingy. Whilst, I’ve enjoyed trying on several watches from Vacheron in their boutique and particularly love the Historiques 1921 American...honestly I've not personally ever had the privilege to see and feel a 222 in person…so my opinion here is far more limited to footage!
....My main concern is that at retail it feels 15-20k over-priced relative to a full precious metal time-only Patek or AP, and it lacks a more tapered bracelet and more textured dial. I'm a sucker for dials and love natural stone dials. So personally, I'd be more tempted with the AP RO 37mm yellow gold with the natural stone Turquoise dial (albeit far less understated and more of a liability to wear). I also love the Day-Date and have been tempted at various points by the black onyx (yellow gold), the under-appreciated Eisenkiessel (rose), or meteorite (white/platinum). If money was no object (sadly it is) in platinum i (again) love the AP RO perpetual calendar but way out my price range.
Great dynamic, Christian and Sam! Reminded of the OG T&H content.
If VC does the 222 in steel or TT then that is definitely jumping way up the list for me.
I highly doubt they will release a stainless steel 222
@@v0llm1lch Based on what? Just a hunch? It was a huge hit and a stainless and TT both existed during the original run...I don't see an obvious reason why they wouldn't do it.
@@v0llm1lch this didnt age well
Really surprised that you mentioned Cavour. It is from Oslo, where I live. Great brand with lots of products on sale as well. Although I don’t recommend visiting their store as the service is pretty awful. I also own suits from them, and in particular their flannel suits are great! Lots of love from Norway. You guys are my favorite UA-cam channel. Keep up the great work!!
Does anyone know what type of sweater Christian is wearing? I know he’s mentioned Ralph Lauren in the past, however I’m having difficulty finding this pattern online
I love my pajama sets, makes me feel cozy and put together at the same time
100%!
Great episode as always! Would really appreciate some advise, I was in the market to buy a Daydate Olive or YG Onyx, but a buddy of mine has offered me a Platinum ICE BLUE ROMAN BLUE QUADRANT DIAL (discontinued recently) for 55k USD, which is roughly about the same as an Olive/Onyx price. What would you recommend from an investment standpoint? I think this watch had a fluted bezel I’d definitely pull a trigger but I’m not sure about the smooth bezel on the Platinum… Please help! 🙏
Super Q&A. I remember your open letter to the Rat back in what - 2017? Mission accomplished, dude. To the victor go the spoils.
matching pajama sets is where it's at. That DeNiro rob is an ICON.
What’s your green wool overcoat in the ad video? Looks awesome.
Great vid - I’d watch these fairly regularly
my cousin had that off catalog gem set sub...he left it on a highway bathroom sink on the way to Vegas....😢
Liked the video. Would love to see some of the older “disproportionate value” vids on dressier gold watches. Hoping to get into a neovintage/vintage piece in the upcoming year!
🎉Congratulations on your new Vacheron, it's a great choice!👏
Brilliant show guys… old school… just the way we like it!! 👍👍🙏
I like this format for you guys. It was missing cutaways to Sam "in the control rm" sort of like a Howard Stern Show or a Steven Crowder.
great choice! congrats with new VC!
VC has always been levels above Rolex
Love this style of video!
Yay! Girls welcome! :) I'm probably one of the few that watch this channel religiously :)
I wear pyjama sets around the house - so comfortable and keeps me at the perfect temp. Derek Rose is A+ but easy to find others.
New strategy = Sam off camera.
Test 318...what if we hide Sam behind the camera and just have Harris speak directly to the camera? Will there be less hate in the comments?
I dont mind Sam at all. Just think it's interesting seeing your tests in different formats.
Now if “Harris” could just keep his hands off his nose then that would make things even better, “period end”.
Too much booger sugar @@tonyrome655
The topic of suits came up and curious now to know what is the norm for spending on a suit?
Loved this episode
So man coming from a platinum DD owner just take my word for it, whenever its your time to get it you’ll LOVE it - my biggest regret was to sell it and buy a royal oak chrono.. bad move.. live and learn
Still the best sweaters on UA-cam 👌🏻
Love the platinum day date! That is the watch I am waiting on as a professional reward. Hopefully soon. The 222 is amazing
If you get a chance, can you discuss when you’d go AD vs Greymarket? Thanks in advance.
I really like watches but I don't see the value in the same way other people do in the sense that watches I don't love tend to be huge price tags, and then a lot that I think are way more appealing to the eye I'll look up and see a price tag I expected in the AP or patek, rolex price
It’s kind of strange not having both on camera lol
I fully support the pajama sets. I do not personally wear them, but I want to haha
I enjoyed this q&a do more
Yes sir!
Now use AI to change Sams voice to Michaels voice every second question to throw folks off
It's so on point about Lange. I had the chance of buying the 1815 Chronograph in Rose Gold. After a few days, I felt like, damn, why do I still want a Patek Chronograph...
I thought I was done after the Lange. I wasn't.
Pajama set guy here🤷🏻♂️
FYI~ I wear PJ sets. I enjoy Cartier design. However, Cartier destroying $MM's in watches due to overproduction seriously turns me off (keeps me IN my PJs). As a business owner, I understand the business sense.. but with that, I also understand that biz practice is compared to making too much pasta for dinner and going outside to the homeless and burning the food in front of them.
BTW~ Christian I love your shows, appreciate your opinions and enjoy your joie de vivre. I say these things because as I watched 16 Candles last night... I realized that you are the Italian version of Anthony Michael Hall's character in that movie. Who's with me?
I wear pinstriped pj’s and own a 27mm vintage, yellow gold Santos Dumont.
Definitely wear pyjama sets and love vintage Cartier. Got me there
Theo behind the camera is kinda working
Derek Rose FTW 👕
I too share your interest in pajama sets and weird leathers 😅
VC is not even in the same league as Rolex. It's like comparing Rolls Royce to Audi.
Yeah, RR is BMW group and Audi is VW group.
Both wills screw you once warranty expires.
Rolex is easily serviceable and VC will drill you a second azzhole
I feel seen: literally watching this in bed in matching pajama set sipping on brandy and wearing my 80s gold reverso.
I’m now going to buy pajama sets and been thinking about getting monogram handkerchief’s to put in my pocket 😆
Well then, you’re going to need the robe as well.
And a sleeping cap with a fluffy ball at the end.
sick triscuit core sweater
I like this Q and A. Great questions and super interesting brands mentioned today. Would love to hear a little more about vintage Ulysse Nardin
now that he mentioned anna, what happened to her?
Love the videos thanks guys
I’m 25 and pyjama sets are were it’s at 🙌🤣
No Micheal, no view
if I would have to choose between Lange and Patek I would always choose Chopard L.U.C (second market of course)
Borderline no Mike no view but maybe I’ll watch I guess we’ll see how I feel about it after a nap
You should come to the italiam tailors in croatia, custom made suits in 1200€ range 👌👌
Christian, the VC 222 yellow gold will be hot on your wrist
"maybe even Langer"😂
Navy suit is the standard, and then charcoal. Unless you wear a suit constantly, don’t get anything too far from those basic colors. And don’t get a black suit unless you go to a lot of funerals.
I disagree. If you are only going to own one suit, it should be black and three piece. You can wear it so many different ways to create dozens of different looks. If not black then charcoal grey for the same reason.
What do you think of the white gold day date with a meteorite dial for those who cannot $$$ the platinum big boy?
Remarkable watch. Impossible to beat!
I wear pajamas sets, don´t have vintage cartier yet, yet.
Pajama guy here 🙋🏻♂️ I have about 5 sets that I wear, typically in the colder months. J crew is a good place to get into it because they go on sale often, but Petite Plume is my go-to. I felt silly when I first wore one (my wife got a couple good jabs in when she first saw me), but after a night or two that goes away. I get the same feeling wearing my pajama sets as I do every time I put on my favorite suit, if that makes sense lol
Cavour!
@Theo and Harris Would love for you guys to go back and revive your style videos "Off Topic", really enjoyed your video on the Allen Edmond Dalton Shell Cordovan boots. Go back every once in a while and check it out just because of the style choices in that video. Cheers, keep up the amazing work 👏
if vacheron introduce 222 in steel (W&W2024) I am running to write my name on the list… immediately :)
But platinum is not better than gold imo
The small laugh when he said "21" 🤣 I wish Christian was my buddy
Hot take, daydate is a sports watch
Pajama man here as well. I inherited all of my grandfather’s sets
I have a silk pyjama set with my name on them, they're so over the top but very fun and love wearing them
I’ve got two pyjama sets. And yes, I’d love a vintage Cartier
I love my pijama sets
A’ight, Heff.
The question about the high school reunion i feel the real answer is, if you know you know shoutout to the zero
How old is Christian?
28. Thanks for watching!
While I acknowledge the effort behind these new AP watches, they don't quite appeal to my taste. I feel they lack a certain Class...
Wheres Harris?
Under the table on his knees
Americans Crack me up when they speak with such authority about PP but pronounce it " padduck "
Oh big mistake asking the comments section what they are thinking about pyjama sets. Hard pass 😂
Don't wear pajama sets...but I think I will now
"Sam is tolerable behind camera" 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Y did the other guy leave? What happened?
@@shaq6772Harris made his own channel
Love a Pajama set. Good man
Christian, nobody can do ready to wear.
🤣 VC have always been in a different league to Rolex
Yes but suffers the most on the secondary market in the trilogy
@@BobbyDazzler888 irrelevant
@@davidthom7127maybe in your ignorant world
@@BobbyDazzler888 AHAHAHAHA
Lame comment: you should read Alchemy by Rory Sutherland. Really speaks to your comment on marketing and the psycho-logic behind it.
I wear a set of silk pajamas nearly every night and I am 30
Dude your the oldest young person ever. Pajama sets and vintage watches. What a guy
Hahahhahahaha
Christian drinks like an Englishman, I approve, as an Englishman
I don’t like the 202s bracelet, it looks too rigid and doesn’t form to the wrist like I’d take the platinum day date any day of the week.
Pajama sets 👍🏼 Cartier 👎🏼
That briefcase is gorgeous.
Ima go get me some pajama sets 😅
make sure to buy 7-8 of them so that you have spares.
Me and my wife wear PJ
Platinum DD is just the ultimate end game watch. 36 or 40?
I exclusively wear Brooks Brothers pyjama sets
The “Just a nail” bracelet is not a “best” bracelet. It is a gloried nail that Cartier is charging you big bucks for. If you want punk jewelry, buy a real bracelets instead of Richie Richie level hipster golden nails
lol have to admit I love it for a couple of years now ever since I bought my wife the ring they offer in yellow gold.. in due time I’ve realized its really hyped but I feel for good reason - definitely a fan of the new Medium size offering
I think the whole point is to flex richie rich.
Shots. Fired. 😂
It’s art
I think that thirsting for anything luxury watch related is basically the last refuge of racism. Oh a white guy made a nail, it’s 10x more valuable than a Japanese guy making a nail. Etc, etc.
You can't buy either of them anyway. So it doesn't really matter.
Hey what happened to Sam?! Bring him back! 😅